[WIP] [FREE] [Slow Develp]Reviere 20/Elan

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topology

as in mesh

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a housefire to be fixed

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no not that

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dang not getting then

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this

of the rear thinger

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here

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ooh...

all sorts of problems

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whatxu mean?

should i just fresh start it?

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ATL + J

to turn tris to quads

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you see that part next to the tail for example? youll have issues with so many paths on 1 verticie

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less edges ie less topology

[sturdy valley]

anyway its also better to have less triangles

looking at most vanilla meshes theyre all basically quads

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all the stuff right beneath the window is problematic

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all this needs to be fixed

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theres also that stray verticie

do not know what its for

screwing shading for those faces

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wich one is it?

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i just cant figure out the blue connections, its such a wierd thing

like these are always doubled

[sturdy valley]

arent they edges?

liek seams in the mesh

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yes they are

how do i deal with edges

what are edges

what do they do

they are they two

why are they so ducking weird

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No they're not. They may be safe in a crash, but they're utter garbage to own and drive

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that is a dutch ad?

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It's German.

Wait, nevermind.
Still, I hope this car becomes more than just a simple Pessima rebadge. 😄

[errant solar]

bro actually just saved the shading errors on my car

much appreciated

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As a portuguese guy so it's in my dna to like renault, its not that bad

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Fake news

Depends until which year, really

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THIS

Rules 1980-2007 they are good 2007-2010 bad (very catastrophic reliability due to the ceo being a numbers cruncher, carlos santz the guy who saved renault and nissan) 2010-2022 very good 2022- now very good but most are boring (end of talisman and megane as we know, clio its awesome tho, and next twingo sounds fun)

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It will yes

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2000's Megane says hello

"With a mere ninety break-horse-power available, progress is too leisurely to be called fast, but on the motorway in fifth gear the Megane’s slow pace really becomes a pain. Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair.” Not my words. The words of Top Gear magazine

Also 2000's Renaults are well known for their electrics

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True that, but as someone who growned up with a clio 2 1.5d with a wapping 67 hp, oh boy, my dad made that little car fly, every travel with him was a hell of fun ride, brother, I can see that rhe megane of the 2000s was more confy then sporty, i see, i mean but the cool thing about reanult is thar you have multiple personalities trough out the years and models

Sometimes the clio its the happy fun one and some times the megane its the happy fun one

Sometimes both

Tho a 90 hp national express its nothing to shy about

And the safrane, oh the safrane was always ahead of its time (until it became a nissan versa under the name of latitude/safrane, great car but not a true safrane)

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It’s a bit pointless anyway

this’ll also need to be fixed

why is it changing direction

The lower isn’t and I don’t see why you would need to do that

also I’d say you should try to straighten it out more

this is a little inconsistent

I think it just needs cleaning up

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Oki noted and those will be fixed thank you

[sturdy valley]

imo just start fron the very end and extrude like .2 or .1 kr whatever

until you get to the boot and the pillars

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What you mean?

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BURN THE WITCH (bro you're doing stuff i dont know how)

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ok lemme get the addon that shows what keys im presing hol on

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better?

has what im pressing in the bottom left of the viewport

(weird shading cos dual layered mesh)

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Yes thank you :3

[sturdy valley]

:3

and you can add details like arches and stuff later

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your topo should be like this

less dense even

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Ill reform topology and then ill see

@pine python do you recomend this technique or do you have an even better one?

(Im asking him cause he has more experience not cause im doubting your competencel

[sturdy valley]

(my topology is mostly garbage so i get you)

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It very fine for your experience

[pine python]

Reccomend what

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This way of doing this

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.

[sturdy valley]

how to have neat topology while kreping it efficient enough

[pine python]

But what about textures

They gonna be fkd up

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what's the way you most sugest?

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@sturdy valley @pine python @pale summit should the selected point follow wich flow?

is this way better? what yall think?

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alt j to convert to quads

at the cost of collision accuracy but a bit better performance

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my pc hadles the other mess fine, although i havent jbeam it, ill see with time

[pale summit]

idk about blender stuff

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ah okay

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@half bloom

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@mint helm welcome to beamcord, here take a seat in my french clusterfrick

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oh damn 😭😂

[sturdy valley]

show the topo now

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ignoring some issues its getting better now

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in a bit

[sturdy valley]

get this man a solidify modifer now

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way cleaner

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select all and then Ctrl+T

and then Alt+J

should clean stuff up more

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it gets a bit schizo

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it does look very nice

[sturdy valley]

heeh

[lean quest]

portugal mentioned 👎 ||(jk)||

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Eu sou português, queres oq oh zuca

[lean quest]

💀💀💀

[pine python]

Ew Portugal

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🇪🇦🤝🇵🇹

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@pine python @lean quest

Um é espanhol
Outro é brasileiro
Vocês se vão dar bem divirtam-se

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💪🏽

[lean quest]

ayo lol I read that

all of humanity can agree that we all hate France

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why do i see the same flag

[lean quest]

blud they gonna find your adress and send you an pipe bomb

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https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

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true dat

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66% of the car designed and assembled by Professionals the last 33% drawn and built by 4 year olds

😂

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YESSS (i was muted for 3 mins for saying "frick" france... worth it)

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German idiot

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Why did i invited you again? To help the other roast me?😭😭😭😭😭

[lean quest]

Me and the boys going to porto just to pee in the river and on that iron bridge of something so it rusts and crumble

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Me and the boys trading fiat unos for gold cause the Brasiliens fall for that stuff

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Me and the boys voting chega so braga returns to the portuguese

[lean quest]

fr

[lean quest]

true portuguese (he is from paraíba)

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(Is he? Well i dont like that guy anyway im voting for iniciatica liberal)

[lean quest]

ayo bro calm down

bro

there are no others candidate in brasil

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Iniciativa liberal é tranquila 😂😂

[lean quest]

that has the policy of sending the entire population of the metropolitan area of São Paulo to Portugal so we take over the country by 2/3 majority

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But damn didn't new andre ventura was br

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Yall just cant

I mean

[lean quest]

fr?

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You said so 💀💀💀

[lean quest]

nah bro that's not what I meant lol

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Whatxu mean

Why we talking English?

We speak similar languages

[lean quest]

bro if all the tax money from Brazil (one of the highest taxes in the world, even though it's situation is very bad) went to air travels, we could get all the population of Brazil to portugal

[lean quest]

the server not allow other language 😔

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Why invest in air ways, yall have them fiat mareas

[lean quest]

I cant even buy my cheap products from China without having the government taxing us 92%

[lean quest]

most of people say mareas and bravos are bombs, but damn, I love the way they look

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Sad 😦

[mint helm]

nahhh dw im on your side (thats what u get calling me east german once)

👿

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I just like the 5 cilinder.... so yeah whatever audi one is better

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whats a fiat maera

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Its a hell of a bomb

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dayum

so my mazda but worse?

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Yes, but 5 cilinder

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for more boom xD

[lean quest]

plus, the thing with mareas and bravos being known as "time bombs" here in brazil is because back on the time, the technology was all new, five cillinder, 20 valves, the mechanics could not fix it properly, plus the engine was totally different from the other engines found on the market at the time

also bad owners

[sturdy valley]

kaboom

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Tião's garage

[lean quest]

fr

bro

at least you guys from europe have luck

you know why?

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@lean quest brotha why yall say Portugal is worst of then brazil, yall come here still, and also, we are both ducked 💀💀💀💀

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cause we have ethanol free octane 102?

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Why?

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oh wait its just germany

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Brazil has that

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not ethanol free

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Brazil has that long before europe

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ETHANOL FREE OCTANE 102?

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They have the engines ap, thing that vw just did for brazil, and its better then any 3.0 tdi

Bro got banned

Bro sweared

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who

lol

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ap?

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The Brazilian guy

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Google it

[mint helm]

nah tell me

heh

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Engines that run on ethanol, they are ultra powerful for the compact size

They put ap engines on opels i6

[mint helm]

Yes i know bout that one they use vw engines for crazy tunes too but im talking but no ethanol gasoline 102

🥺

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damnn fr?

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Yep

[mint helm]

are opel i6 a thing in brazil?

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Idk man wait for the guy to come back

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Under Chevrolet yeah

[mint helm]

damn chevy!

oh btw i talked to a aussie guy lol

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Opel impala there is Chevrolet opala

[lean quest]

ayo

I got muted

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You sweared

[lean quest]

you guys from europe are lucky this bad boys arent in your market ||(they are horrible)||

[mint helm]

the second gen commodore snd second gen commodore are like the same cars except aussie land got a beefy V8 we just a 3.6 i6 as biggest engine

😭

[lean quest]

yessir

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they look horrid

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We have the kwid as the dacia spring electric, the cheapest electric in production, but it doesn't even compare its WAY better

[lean quest]

We are master at rebadge (Dacias become Renault, Opel became Chevrolet, etc etc)

[lean quest]

damn you got them?

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There is Chevrolet corsa

[lean quest]

the renault kwid makes me puke, the mobi is kinda eh

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Yep

[mint helm]

damm

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Yall love them dacias and fiats tipo, when i catch an br uber usualy its a sandero or a tipo, those with taste have reanault megane (a car too fancy for yall)

[lean quest]

Also we got the "nutella" facelift of the legendary Fiat Uno (it went from the car of the hard working tião, josé, cláudio, to the car of the zesty universitary João, Lucas, Felipe)

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Its a uno replacement acoording to carro de review

[lean quest]

Yeah, but the UNO is way bigger than Mobi, the true replacement in our hearths is the argo, that is kinda bit more acceptable

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Yall got the 7th facelift of the clio 2nd gen 💀

[lean quest]

Dacias are perfect

no flaws

Sandero is so good man

also logan

but kwid

nah

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@mint helm

[lean quest]

dont compare the beautiful clio to that new UNO

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Logan its very nice, and the duster even better, but sandero i would just get a clio

[lean quest]

Duster is kinda eh

my godfather had a duster

he liked it

but the interior is kinda rough

[mint helm]

im still scared of getting the brand new dacia duster or bisgter with the 1.3

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😂😂😂, the 7th facelift was kinda horrid you have to agree, clio was beautiful up to the storia/campus, then it went with más companhias

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They dont have the hybrids, but they have the na and turbo versions of that

[lean quest]

dis?

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The new one its getting better

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Thats the storia yes

[lean quest]

ayo bro what is this why does this looks so uninspiring

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Cause it went with the 3rd gen clio, that was only sold as carros de serviço basicly

And yall got that instead of the 3rd gen clio

Yall sticked with that 2nd gen clio for long

[lean quest]

sadly clio want continued in Brazil

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Until 2018 if im not wrong

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Sad.... well we still have it soo yeah

[lean quest]

ngl

[mint helm]

damn

[lean quest]

Dacia saved Renault's image in Brazil

[mint helm]

i meam

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Renault saved dacia so yeah

[mint helm]

the new duster is a very basic hybrid lmao

hm

[lean quest]

Renault is a french car, it was not reliable at all, but dacia is romanian car, great engineering=little problems

[mint helm]

im still thinking of getting a a6 2.0 tfsi with torsen

also it looks sleeker than a duster

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But all the engeenerr is made by french and germans

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Oh no, bro its going darkside

[lean quest]

oh no

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In a week you gonna be teling be you are thinking of an audi q etron 💀💀💀

[lean quest]

then the germans had a bigger hand in making the sandero and logan's engine

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And now its good

[pine python]

no

[lean quest]

fr

man, now there is a thing

[frank dagger]

You are owning me castela still

[lean quest]

my dad brought an french car

an peugeot 208

from 2013

blud

that is the worst car we ever had

and we still have it

but like

it is the one with the best interior but

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Take it to church

[mint helm]

hell nah fck suvs

[lean quest]

it has the worst fuel consumption

it breaks up like, every 6 months

and my dad still likes it

[mint helm]

damn

i thought my current car is boom boom

[frank dagger]

People who own peugeots like them peugeot, only death can seperate a peugeot owner from a peugeot

[lean quest]

nah bro you never seen an 1.6 208 with an automatic gearbox 💀💀

[lean quest]

i dont want my dad dying

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Desth of the person or of the car, or both

[lean quest]

I hope he buys some chevrolet

[frank dagger]

The peugeot will die first dont worry, they are pretty safe

[lean quest]

yeah fr they have great safety ngl

it is the car with most airbags I've ever been on

[frank dagger]

I HAVE TO DO HUMAN STUFF LIKE EATING ILL BRB

[lean quest]

it is pretty safe

[lean quest]

see ya soon

[mint helm]

i actually never did

is it the old or new one

[lean quest]

the old model, from 2013/2014

[mint helm]

ohhh its still new for me xD

i thought u mean the early 2000s one

this lne

even this i consider new lol

[lean quest]

oh no, 206 is even worse

it has an beautiful design

but the french engineers cant make an engine or gearbox that works properly 😭😭

[mint helm]

true that

opel has that issue since they are french xD

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gm did worst engines

[sturdy valley]

i do the worst engines

i am the worst engine

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Damn, hi engine im dad

[mint helm]

meh

[sturdy valley]

brapper ive been working on :3

for another mod

[mint helm]

Dowito engwine

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Very nice

[sturdy valley]

thats me you can see the resempkblence

[frank dagger]

Hehehe

You do like some doritos

[sturdy valley]

dual dorito

[mint helm]

do 8

[sturdy valley]

4 hours of moddeling

[mint helm]

needs to sound like nightmare fuel

[sturdy valley]

im not doing a brand new intake for this, or exhaust

this took too long, and also it wouldnt fit into the car so

[mint helm]

im joking

a 8 dowito engine would be weird as f

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Brap brap brap⁸

[mint helm]

even worse than brap

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Brup? :3

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Dayun

[sturdy valley]

kaboomsh

[mint helm]

Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh Bruh like this lol

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The thing that you are getting ahead of me is that you are very deep into blender skill

[sturdy valley]

worn out lubricators since dorito sipped all da oil?

[frank dagger]

So your models are just better

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Bruh⁸

[sturdy valley]

nuh uh

[mint helm]

nah to fix that issue just get a 40l oil reservoir

[frank dagger]

Thats very very very good xD

[sturdy valley]

i was thinking of giving it a huge filter tbh, and like the thiccest rad tubes

[frank dagger]

Sooo 3l/100km.... oil consumption

[sturdy valley]

it has kinda crap topology since i used a lot of decimating

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I see

[sturdy valley]

poomf

[sturdy valley]

the exhaust itself is 1.5k tris x3

[frank dagger]

Very detailed.... remember this is an engine xD

Nah its very nice

[sturdy valley]

i cant get any less geometry tbh

or itll look like kaka

[mint helm]

if that is even enough lol

i was thinking of 6l engine xD

[lean quest]

They are very safe because they know how bad french drivers are 💀💀💀

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f]

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https://tenor.com/view/spy-kids-good-morning-happy-birthday-spy-tf2-gif-23407718

Uhm...

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Ah a member of gay i suport this message

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same

[crystal siren]

*Since they've been bought by the French

[crystal siren]

Well they had trouble during the GM days too

[mint helm]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-shocked-cat-sarcasm-gif-23656223

I know lmao

[mint helm]

Not as bad as rn i mean the transmission issue on the New corsa isnt as bad anymore

well its not an issue its just an annoying as f thing

[pine python]

what the hell is that

[sturdy valley]

dorito engin

wip

[pine python]

for what

[sturdy valley]

the Kamoi and possibly the Altair (3 cylinder in that case)

[pine python]

then why are you posting it here? also you could just ask LJ for the engine on kljp

[sturdy valley]

LetsDrive is doing that for the dual cylinder, also i decided to do it for fun

also to show that my models are not better at all

[pine python]

making an engine =/= making a body for a car

[sturdy valley]

still can show how crap topology can be

[frank dagger]

So where i've been: my phone its broken

I've been exhausted all around, so i havent put my mind into comming here

Hi everyone imma respond now to everything yall said

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Wich are owned by a portuguese guy

[frank dagger]

Americans when transmission (impossible)

[crystal siren]

Real cluster-crap

[frank dagger]

The guy actually its pretty aight tbh

Stalantis is fine

[crystal siren]

Apart from reliability issues

[frank dagger]

If you want reliability buy a bmw

[crystal siren]

They make no good cars

[crystal siren]

Stellantis I meant

Nothing interesting apart from the odd hot hatch

[mint helm]

thats why they get german ones xD

Zf is peak german engineering

or Tremec

tremec is awesome too for muscle

tho its from Mexico xDDDD

That proofs muricans cant make good tranny

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Yes xD

[lavish seal]

they're gonna revive lancia that's yes from me

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Sooo how are you guys

[swift sparrow]

alive

[hollow river]

unrelatable

[frank dagger]

why the slow development lately:

I've been mentally exhausted sooo im taking a break from basically everything (except school even tho thats what is making me exhausted) and i dont wana hate moding soo since im a human i need a human break cause humans have human needs, hope yall fellow humans compreend

this week i basically did nothing on the elan, cause of the exhaustion i can't even look at a single line of code nor get my mind into blender

[frank dagger]

same

[frank dagger]

glad

[mint helm]

Bmw

[frank dagger]

bmv 👍

[swift sparrow]

vw

[frank dagger]

Bmw

[mint helm]

BMW

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Understandable.

[frank dagger]

Thank you

[frank dagger]

Thinking of adding a v8 out of an f1 car....

Or a v10....

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Cool idea!

[frank dagger]

ill work on it

[frank dagger]

@sturdy valley do you remeber that you sent a video basicly extending a mesh

[sturdy valley]

yeah?

#1189560909874597938 message this one?

[frank dagger]

exacly

[sturdy valley]

what do you need help with?

[frank dagger]

im doing the hatch and i needed to continue the path of them windows rubbers

[sturdy valley]

why such messy topology again?

[frank dagger]

very thankfull of @sturdy valley for making a lot of the wagon body

WE HAVE A WAGONE

[swift sparrow]

waggone 🤤

[sturdy valley]

yez

waggonneeeeee

[swift sparrow]

@frank dagger make it brown

[sturdy valley]

kaka flavor

he also needs to fix da textures

[frank dagger]

sure

[frank dagger]

person: how 90's is your car
me: yes

[swift sparrow]

YESSSS

brown waggone lemanual

jdm (juropean domestik market)

[frank dagger]

"iswear"pean ? (search juro in translator)

[swift sparrow]

im just acting like the average r/carscirclejerk user

lol

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Looks... different now.

[sturdy valley]

because its been entirely remade lol

the top wagon bit at least

[half bloom]

Nice.

[lavish seal]

isn't it a bit too long for its tallness?

[sturdy valley]

doesnt seem to be no

im not bothered spending like another 7 hours at it lol

[lethal grove]

Leave it as it is since it meant to be more practical

[sturdy valley]

Elan coffin config 🗿

1st ever coffin car in beamng

[frank dagger]

bro gave me an idea...

[sturdy valley]

lemme make a coffin

and well slap a crash dummy in

[frank dagger]

thats a thing yeah maybe

[frank dagger]

do you guys like the lights transparent or do i give it a nice color

[sturdy valley]

give em color

[half bloom]

Both.
The clear ones as an aftermarket option.
The coloured ones as a factory option.

[frank dagger]

this is how it looks red

[frank dagger]

i liked your idea

[arctic bane]

please, not full red, make something like indicators, clear lights for reverse and stuff

[half bloom]

For lower end models, the heckblende can be plastic.
For mid level models, it can be the same colour as the taillights.
For high end and performance models, maybe a body coloured one will work.

[pine python]

just use normal textures

[frank dagger]

i've did better

[half bloom]

Now that is better!

[frank dagger]

hehe

[pine python]

no.

the originals are better

those look like untextured temporary ones

just modify the original texture

[frank dagger]

ill now dinner ill see after

[sturdy valley]

yeah, problem is how would the texture ract to being put on a flatter surface and not being stretched

[pine python]

fine?

you can adapt textures

i prefer a good streched texture over whatever that is

because thats jut not good at all

[cursive widget]

Yeah

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Hmm...
He can just recolour the Pessima light textures.

[sturdy valley]

i tried doing it and it like brok, ig i unwrapped it wrong

[frank dagger]

hummm idk

[half bloom]

Here.

[frank dagger]

what do you mean exacly with heckblende

[frank dagger]

lichi, lets compare

[frank dagger]

thats not a bad idea tho, it would tho i make more textures, but its not bad

[pine python]

better

tho

[frank dagger]

do you prefer the left to the right on?

[pine python]

left

ofc

the white needs to be less transpareant

[frank dagger]

you sure? or should the white reverse stay the same transparence and make darker the rest?

[pine python]

im sure

the whole thing is way too transparent

specially the white

[frank dagger]

just to make sure we are on the same page, this is the zone of the white you are refering to right?

[pine python]

no

make everything less transparent

[half bloom]

Will it have RHD models, now that I'm seeing this?

[frank dagger]

the question is how TT

[frank dagger]

yes

[lean quest]

ayo bro

[half bloom]

Nice.

[pine python]

modifying the alpha texture

[frank dagger]

tell me

[lean quest]

getting better and better

[frank dagger]

go on photoshop and make it darker?

[pine python]

google it

i dont remember how alpha works

[frank dagger]

that will then need to be a thing for other day, i just wanted to set a nice checkpoint for the day

[frank dagger]

thank you 🥹

[sturdy valley]

yes, the darker the color on the alpha the less transparent it is

[lean quest]

I just watched 3 cars getting brutally totalled on Instagram reels

my day is ruined

[sturdy valley]

and you did

and i didnt since today i was meant to finish off an essay and i did 7 hours of blender 🗿

[frank dagger]

i see

[frank dagger]

xD im so sorry

[sturdy valley]

nah dw ill just stay up lol

[cursive widget]

arent cars in france lefthanded

[half bloom]

Yes but they are exported to RHD countries like Japan, the UK, the Land Down Under, and South Africa.

[sturdy valley]

you forgot ireland

dum dum

[half bloom]

Oh, that too.

[frank dagger]

yes

[sturdy valley]

-200 damage

[cursive widget]

pioneer norte

[frank dagger]

why pioneer north?

[half bloom]

And the ARZ 200.

[frank dagger]

what yall yappin about

[cursive widget]

it is british pessima thing just as he mentioned britaien

[cursive widget]

what the FUCK

dude literally removed trunklights and changed the badge

[half bloom]

It's supposed to be some sort of lore friendly Rover.

[cursive widget]

and called it a mod

[half bloom]

Not sure if it still works though.

[frank dagger]

google has nothing on that

[pine python]

ow gosd

theres literally nothing going for it

and the only real thing that are the badges look awful

[cursive widget]

yeah its just a pooped pessima

[half bloom]

If anything it should have been a facelifted Pessima.

[cursive widget]

still makes no sense

[half bloom]

Why not?

[frank dagger]

every tailight fixed (subject to change)

[pine python]

those licence plates look small

[frank dagger]

dont they, yeah i still have to tackle that

[frank dagger]

guess what

[cursive widget]

where are the center high mounted lamps

there should be 1for spoiler and 1 for the backligth

[frank dagger]

its a thing for me to work on, soooo its still not solved

[cursive widget]

what

just add a chmsl

its just

easy

[cursive widget]

also wtf with the intcarpet

[frank dagger]

wtf is a chmsl? i still havent undestood it

[frank dagger]

in wich one?

[cursive widget]

wagon

[frank dagger]

AHHH that, yeah ill do that now

[frank dagger]

haven't noticed, thanks will work on that rn

[frank dagger]

in wich texture it normally is loc? like its on body or on glass/lights

[cursive widget]

just take them from pessima ig

[frank dagger]

now i just need to get the wagon fixed

[frank dagger]

fixed (backlight isnt connecting with the hatch, idk why)

[cursive widget]

my god

just make the backlight use trunk nodegroup

and it will fix

[frank dagger]

ty

[cursive widget]

like wtf is that white thing in the middle

2nd pic

[frank dagger]

i did that it didnt worked, ill jbeam it and then see what happens

[frank dagger]

is the 3rd brake light dont mind it for now please

[cursive widget]

arent you supposed to have it on the roof ?

and why is it white

[frank dagger]

ok its very noticable gonna work on that

[cursive widget]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171530944109346859/1198735563281412096/upal-fall.gif

dude

hjust change a line of code

simple

[frank dagger]

yeah, its there like on blender but i dont know yet how to put it on physically

[frank dagger]

i've done that

[cursive widget]

thats not what i meant ongod

just go to flexbody and make it use the trunk nodegroup

istg

ig

[frank dagger]

can you explain it simpler, even tho thats simple enough im too cafinated and my brain isn't braining top notch

[frank dagger]

figured what you meant

[cursive widget]

wait

is your wagon even jbeamed

[frank dagger]

not yet

im finishing everything body

[cursive widget]

how does it even take so long

you just extend the roof with more nodes and add d pillar nodes
and then add beams for them

and then coltris

you can just copy those things form legran even

15 minutes at max

beambacon said you are capable of doing that🙏

[half bloom]

The Renault 21 doesn't have CHSML lights, but they can be optional.
Also, will there be a liftback version?

I was also thinking of a possible Bruckell rebadge inspired by the Eagle Medallion. I'll call it, the Bruckell Trofeo, the result of Bruckell's partnership with Cherrier. It later influenced the Bastion-based Rayonner.

[sturdy valley]

its already in the wagon

[pale summit]

its not a cherrier...

[sturdy valley]

people are inexperienced ig

you gotta understand jbeam noobs be here

[half bloom]

Oh, my bad.
Guess it can be rebadged as a Gavril for the US then.

[pale summit]

its reviere

[half bloom]

I forgot.

😅

[pale summit]

lmao

[frank dagger]

This is not a cherrier, but yes i can do that it doesnt take much effort

Cool less work for me, and yes there will be a liftback versiom

[frank dagger]

Yes i know but i need to tell jbeam that "that exists"

[arctic bane]

low redline, should be 6500-7200

[topaz bridge]

relax dude, he gotta start somewhere

[cursive widget]

ah

just add it as a flexbody

and then you will additionally have to make a light flare prop so it will make an actual light not a glow texture

and everything will be good :3

[frank dagger]

Ill see about it but other day bur today no cause my head is blowing

[cursive widget]

oek

[frank dagger]

What is that pic tho i cant see it

[frank dagger]

I see i see, but thats a midle trim model engine that i use for general testing, it obeys the renault 21 redline, why dont i test everythjng on the turbo engine? Its ducking noisy af its fun to listen but its kinda very high volume, im thinking of lowering the volume but i first need to find a way to keep the turbo nice fun noises

[frank dagger]

I will work with the kjlp jbeam, he alowed me to use it, but ill need to do some modification to that jbeam still cause the sizes are diferent, the reviere it longer and less tall

[cursive widget]

ok cool

[pine python]

a rebadge of a rebadged pessima

god

stupid

[half bloom]

He told me that he'll make this car more than just a rebadged Pessima.

[frank dagger]

lichi is just teasing me up dw

[crystal siren]

If it came out before 1994 in France, there's no mandate for it in the backlight

And since 1998 in Germany

US from 1986 onwards

[frank dagger]

Its not going on us, only as a bruckell maybe

[crystal siren]

That case, oughta have a third brake light

Also, would be very cool

Wouldn't call it the "Trofeo" though like one guy suggested

Oldsmobile already had a car with that name

And it's rather Italian than French sounding...

[crystal siren]

Well, rather a trimlevel for a model

[frank dagger]

Ill see what they called the car it self

[pine python]

Yes I know that
If I was against rebadges like this I wouldnt be helping him

A rebadge doesn't mean it's bad. I've helped make the diadem and this since I consider they have great potential to be something really nice :p

[half bloom]

Yes!

[sturdy valley]

wagon for life

[pine python]

Yeah

[sturdy valley]

im actually so surprised i got the topology nearly all correctly done

[pine python]

@frank dagger consider giving the sedan s different trunk shape, the wagon looks very different and is super cool but the sedan is still very pessima like

[sturdy valley]

except a few weirdly shaded spots and some uv issues lol

[sturdy valley]

wagon might need a bit of rework detail wise

i just found a spot i really fucked up

[frank dagger]

Ill see about it now that im more confident in skins and all

[sturdy valley]

imma go fix the shading more lol

why is the shading so sensitive tho, like dude moving a vertex slightly in or out makes a huge difference

[frank dagger]

When im avalable im gonna send you the new file cause ive worked a lot on the uv and i dont wana to throw that on the lake hehe, thanks for the help

[sturdy valley]

yeye np ill try do some stuff tmrw

[pale summit]

i wanna hear it

[frank dagger]

Sure next time them

Then*

[pale summit]

yay

[silk holly]

I love it

[lavish seal]

bruckell croix-sainte

similar to croissant

but not croissant

[pale summit]

fr

[crystal siren]

I like that

Very cool

And funny

[frank dagger]

here it is

[pale summit]

what is .mkv

just send a clip if you revving it

[frank dagger]

its the video format of the obs

[frank dagger]

thats basicly it

[pale summit]

yeah but im not downloading stuff

oh wait i am

it sounds good

[frank dagger]

it does sound very good, but is loud

[pale summit]

yeah

make the exhaust quieter

[frank dagger]

guys what was i doing last time please help me return to where was i lol

[frank dagger]

maybe im trying to find a way to keep all the turbo good sounds

[lavish seal]

could you upload it to streamable?

[pale summit]

i like itbs more than turbos

[lavish seal]

my iphone cant open that

[pale summit]

hahahaha

iphone user

man be smart and get an Android

[frank dagger]

sure let me just go a thing rq and ill prepare stuf and then i stream for who wants to see see

[frank dagger]

this

[lavish seal]

this is actually my first iphone

have been an android user for my whole life

[pale summit]

why you got iphone

[lavish seal]

the iphone is more suitable for my use of mobile phones

but I use windows

[pale summit]

how

[lavish seal]

always wanted to try one and bought one after my xiaomi broke

[lofty bloom]

there

[lavish seal]

I don't do intensive stuff as playing games or such and I use the camera a lot

[pale summit]

i use oneplus

[lavish seal]

sounds nice, thank you!

[lavish seal]

my father has the north 2

[pale summit]

better android is half the price as old iphone

bigger screen for half the price

[lavish seal]

bro when I had android I was buying a new phone every year

I've been with this iPhone three years and it's still going strong

[pale summit]

why

just get android for 200€

my brothers nokia lasted 5 years

[lavish seal]

because I prefer iphone

not saying it's better but I prefer it

and that's it

[pale summit]

why you want to spend 200€ extra

[frank dagger]

thank you

[lavish seal]

because it suits my profile better

[frank dagger]

it does but moding with the turbo's sound after a time is unbarable

[lavish seal]

just a tad quieter and it should be perfect

[frank dagger]

i use smasnug, now its at smasnug for fixes, CAUSE UNLIKE IPHONE, you can fix androids, and i love them for it

[frank dagger]

if you agree that iphone is worst but you like iphone better, sure i respect that

[lavish seal]

i've had numerous androids and I like this iphone better

[cursive widget]

an actual xiaomi

or a redmi

[lavish seal]

but not trying to put one aboge the other

[lavish seal]

I had both

[frank dagger]

ill gett into it eventually

[lavish seal]

the redmi was noticeably worse

than the xiaomi

[cursive widget]

yea obv

redmis are cheap meanwhile xiaomis are flagship or sub flagship mostly

[lavish seal]

thankfully apple is being forced by the EU to improve on repairability

[frank dagger]

next phone i wana get is a fairphone

it will last for ever

[lavish seal]

fairphones are a nice concet

concept

but imo a bit to expensive now to appeal to the general public

[frank dagger]

you own an iphone my dude

[frank dagger]

@pale summit please yell at this comment

[lavish seal]

refurbished iphone

[frank dagger]

fair then

[cursive widget]

wtf is this

[pale summit]

then dont get it

[frank dagger]

a phone that you can fix it yourself that is actually really nice

[lavish seal]

who said I was gonna get one

general public is not just me bro

[frank dagger]

anyway imma mod rn

yall wana hop on vc?

[lavish seal]

kk

good luck man

[lavish seal]

nah nrn sorry

[frank dagger]

thanks

[lavish seal]

im in the middle of watching better call saul

[arctic bane]

get on topic AFTER THIS conversation pls

[frank dagger]

we are returning to topic

[arctic bane]

what configs are u planning

[frank dagger]

the normals like basic, sporty and luxurious, eco, concepts/leasing concepts (electric version, cvt etc) police configs, turbo, turbo quattra and turbo f1

also gonna go savanna for the wagon as a crossover

[arctic bane]

experimental hybrid? take inspiration from daihatsu charmant hybrid (it is in the 80s, fits the timeline)

[frank dagger]

please show me a picture of it i cant find it

[crystal siren]

No wonder. Your last phone was Chinese

Don't get a Huawei or Xiaomi

Get a Samsung or Nokia

[frank dagger]

ccp it on your door

[crystal siren]

Hehehe

They actually track your data

[frank dagger]

nokia nowadays? nah

[crystal siren]

They make some handsome phones

[frank dagger]

i know, more on my home cause the routers are huawei

[frank dagger]

yeap

nothing is cool too

they seem to care

[frank dagger]

get fairphone

[frank dagger]

@mint helm fact check this

[crystal siren]

The Chinese track your incognito mode searches hahahahah

[frank dagger]

i knowwww

[arctic bane]

sorry, it is charmant

[frank dagger]

yeah and therea was a hybrid honda gasele

[arctic bane]

anyway, right side is the powertrain specs

[frank dagger]

ya

[cursive widget]

you trust incognito :p

[frank dagger]

what are the hotkeys to see jbeam triangles

[cursive widget]

and they already switched the topic

[frank dagger]

crash triangles

[cursive widget]

ctrl+t

[frank dagger]

thank you java lord

[cursive widget]

no problemo :3

[sturdy valley]

how da fuqdo you hab it

i made the wagon and i dont even lol

[lofty bloom]

Downloaded the video sent and then converted it

I didn't make the vid

[sturdy valley]

ah lol

[sturdy valley]

matroska be shit

[crystal siren]

I don't, but the Chinese don't get them right away, but need to pay for it

[frank dagger]

so i did a thing (i didnt took 5 hours doing this i got busy and i played with a friend)

[sturdy valley]

why squish

[frank dagger]

(cause i dont know what im doing cries)

no jk, its just a step

im now on blender editor tring to do things

[sturdy valley]

ah oki

(dont fuck up my masterpiece)

[frank dagger]

never 🥺

[frank dagger]

jbeamed

WE HAVE A WAGON COMPLETLY DONE

[lavish seal]

yesssss

[pale summit]

rear engine lmao

[silk holly]

Liftback now

[frank dagger]

Dobble engine now

[frank dagger]

Yes but first i need to fix a bit of the body, make it better, also @pale summit WantsBoxyStuffTM

[sturdy valley]

thats a wip

[frank dagger]

wanted to say that all bugs with the tailgate are now fixed

honda who 👀

[lavish seal]

dayum

[swift sparrow]

oh yeah! love high revving N/A engines

[frank dagger]

here u have

[swift sparrow]

do it got custom sounds?

[frank dagger]

im still thinking actually, but prob no

if i find out how does engine sim works yeah sure

[frank dagger]

it needs better cooling it didnt survived a rally at the sound of rave music

weak

[half bloom]

Most reliable French car.

sad baguette noises

[frank dagger]

thats fax

[frank dagger]

i think is reached the peak before shading fixes

[half bloom]

Awesome!

[lavish seal]

looking great

[frank dagger]

thank you

[frank dagger]

thank you

[frank dagger]

@pale summit im making your beloved transformation of squareness

[pale summit]

yay

[frank dagger]

do you think it looks good?

[pale summit]

yes

[frank dagger]

aight, is it better ?

@pale summit @pine python

[frank dagger]

ill keep the wagon like this but the sedan revamp is done

[pale summit]

i think so

its hard to say when its not completely done yet

[frank dagger]

true

[cursive widget]

👏

[pale summit]

.

[half bloom]

😄

[sturdy valley]

more like mesh fixes in places tbh

this is intentional...

[sturdy valley]

this

[frank dagger]

Ah i know

[cursive widget]

No ?

you dont have the chmsl

[sturdy valley]

its meant to be there so that isnt a shading issue

just forgot to join the objects

[cursive widget]

never said it was a shading issue?

so yeah

[sturdy valley]

you corcled places with shadimg issues so i just assumrd

[cursive widget]

dw

[sturdy valley]

ill be fixing it up today or tommorow anyway

[sturdy valley]

there are also interior shading issues lol

as in autosmooth being goofy

[frank dagger]

Hi

[half bloom]

It's been a while.

[frank dagger]

Ik ik

[frank dagger]

For those who are wondering about the elan im just taking a mental health and work pause, im involved in a important project rn and i do have school and i dont wana exhaust myself, soo I slowed a bit down on the elan, but ill resume asap when im feeling better and have more time to dedicate to this, i love yall suport thank you for the patience

[half bloom]

Understandable. God bless you.
Rename this to [ON HOLD] [FREE].

[lavish seal]

take your time bro

[frank dagger]

[WIP] [FREE] [Slow Develp]Reviere 20/Elan

[frank dagger]

@half bloom thank you

[frank dagger]

Thanks for understanding

[lofty bloom]

He's stopped cooking for now, it's on the side to cool

[sturdy valley]

the cake batter is setting in the fridge

[lofty bloom]

He's

Yes

[frank dagger]

exactly

[frank dagger]

message so this doesnt go awayy

[tepid perch]

message so this will go awayy

[sturdy valley]

alakazam alakazoo, i cast thee to the land of the boo

[frank dagger]

BLAYBLADE

[austere pendant]

Mf played Beyblade on BeamNG Drive

[sturdy valley]

fr

50mph cresh veri gud

a bit of crumple

[sturdy valley]

Elan ready for takeoff

[sturdy valley]

better angle ish

[sturdy valley]

@cursive widget do you like the remade grille?

(i fixed the shading issue in the ss)

[half bloom]

actual lit grille brodie good job 👍

[sturdy valley]

its just a similar and smoother version of the olde one

with less umm holes

[half bloom]

yeah, it just looks more refined

[sturdy valley]

still has shading issues qwq

im also remeshing the bumper because i have no idea what drugs wuis was on making that shit

[half bloom]

something ill never escape 😭

shading low key makes me want to kill myself

[sturdy valley]

its kinda easy to fix most of the time

but this

this is like

unfixable

[half bloom]

not if you're dealing with the weird shit i got

[sturdy valley]

i hate that dae files auto triangulate and fuck some meshes up

[sturdy valley]

wh ive seen worse than this tbh

[half bloom]

this is just time consuming

and the polyflow is like nonexistent

[sturdy valley]

i need to literaslly remake it lol

i did the same to the grille

like whar

[half bloom]

what the fuck

like how

how can one be on that much crack

im boutta have a seizure this is mad

[sturdy valley]

its mostly DAE triangulating that fucks it

[sturdy valley]

even the remesh whuch is still kinda bad looks better loll

[sturdy valley]

unfucked

[tepid perch]

ELAN?!?!!? LOTUS AND KIA REFERENCE?!?!?

[cursive widget]

dude

what the heck

shit ton of shading issues right there

and what even is that front bumper man

also why are the headlights shortened

if you want them to look like on a renault 21 just make them wider

[cursive widget]

just like in this car

[cursive widget]

just disable it and add edge split for sharp edges

in that case nothing will be hurt

[half bloom]

I’d say nah

the grilles already lower

if he does that he’ll make it look like the norte too much

the lower headlights have their charm anyway

[sturdy valley]

remeshing

[sturdy valley]

oh thats exactly what i told wuis to do

i didnt make these

it was wuis

[sturdy valley]

not up to me dude

and its ment to look a bit different

[sturdy valley]

edge split isnt needed tbh

if i mesh them alright

[sturdy valley]

yep and im fixing them all

and a shitton of uv map issues

new bumper remesh has no issues so far except one but thats easily fixable

and also alignment issues but eh

ill fix those later

[pine python]

those lights need to be taller

they too smal

[half bloom]

So like this, right?

[arctic bane]

woah did you take over?

[sturdy valley]

wait no lol

i was always in charge of the mesh since the wagon

i made the wagon

[arctic bane]

i thought... oh

[sturdy valley]

you need to be taller /j

[sturdy valley]

wuis is sorting other things like lights, jbeam and other thingies

im mainly the modeller now

[arctic bane]

maybe make this car produced until 2010s in developing countries, e.g. ladas

[sturdy valley]

im onl in charge as a co-dev

talk to wuis about that

[sturdy valley]

@frank dagger

consida or nah

[frank dagger]

Nah it just sound right

[frank dagger]

Im not making the phase 1 im making the phase 2

[half bloom]

Oh.

[frank dagger]

Im making the phase 2, but, gonna add the phase 1 in the expansion

[frank dagger]

Thats a good idea if there is a lore dacia brand i can do that

[frank dagger]

Consida ill do that on the expansion, in the main mod we are going to have the elan and a bruckel version of the elan

Expansion will add phase 1
New version
And more tunning mods to the car

[frank dagger]

So it fits as with the elan phase 2

[pine python]

still they are much bigger

phase 1 is taller and shorter

[frank dagger]

Nah he is being a big help but im still making a lot of the mod, just slower cause of the reasons i told, but ill resume it tomarow (bacon picked it up cause he has way more blender experience then me, so ill do the things like overall mesh and jbeam and almost everything and he assures its polished basically

[sturdy valley]

makes the mod different

[frank dagger]

I know but i still want to make em a bit different on my version, keeping the proportions sorta right, just slicker

[pine python]

yes but still they just look plain wrong

[sturdy valley]

it anyways at this point kinda looks fuck all like the reference tbh

[frank dagger]

Ill take a relook at it then since its kinda juat resizing stuff around

[sturdy valley]

its more so redoing the fascica too though

and bits of the fenders

[frank dagger]

Yeah i know, hummm, lemme thing

[frank dagger]

I think at this point just let it be as it is, it looks cool tho, maybe changing the turn signals texture but other then that

[sturdy valley]

https://discord.gg/pvD8YY7k there is now a server for all the Elan needs :3

[half bloom]

itll look too much like the norte, even the grille is lower now; so if they brung up the lights yk itll look very similar

plus it still looks fine

[tepid perch]

pog

[frank dagger]

Poggers

[sturdy valley]

you like the grille? (thank fuck i spent about 2 hours remeshing it and getting it right)

[sturdy valley]

we dont wanna have it look like the norte, or exactly like a phase 2 just close enough so it has its own personality as a car but still looks like a french goof

[half bloom]

yeah it's pretty nice, the actual design looks good, once you finish the remesh and the shading gets good car will look hot af

charles had a few problems on norte bumper so i had to fix that too, but didn't have to remesh

[sturdy valley]

i mean it looks ok right?

its kinda more squareish to remove some of the shading issues (so all the inside perimeter is marked sharp)

[half bloom]

I might suggest making a plastic frame around the bottom grille

some weird bits around here

that bottom part of the fender might look good with some plastic cladding imo, to flow with the plastic sideskirt n stuff

[sturdy valley]

fixing those rn

also the fender having a cheesegrater texture lol

[sturdy valley]

hmmmm oki

[half bloom]

just noticed that 😭

[sturdy valley]

i also have to try remap thewhole body