[WIP] Ibishu Altair & 1983-1986 Ibishu Covet

[solar merlin]

wait what about Solair

[solemn coral]

And of course...

[warm cairn]

yes

[chrome tapir]

Tepui isnt either

[heavy arch]

true, gavril literally started ww1 by killing a guy for example

[warm cairn]

i know and its funky, very bubble-economy

i like that as well

[chrome tapir]

fits the 80s

[lean glacier]

[WIP] Ibishu Altair & 1983-1986 Ibishu Covet

[warm cairn]

but Altair literally means flying eagle i dont think that could be more on the nose

[solemn coral]

Agila was also pretty on the nose tbf

[heavy arch]

Opel

[warm cairn]

ill keep this in my back pocket for stuff, i like this name aswell

[solar merlin]

alright cool lol i think HW and GTA have used the name too

[warm cairn]

Soltare sounds familiar

[solemn coral]

GTA reminds me

Ibishu Stratum?

[lean glacier]

And there’s 1000 messages

[solemn coral]

Or Strata, perhaps

[warm cairn]

Mitsubishi used Strada

very similar

[lean glacier]

Lancia

Stratos?

[warm cairn]

also similar

[chrome tapir]

already a brand

[solemn coral]

Yeah, the Lancia is the Stratos

[lean glacier]

I know

[solar merlin]

Sol-Aire CX4 & Willard Solair

[chrome tapir]

that gta car cant breath

[solar merlin]

lol

[lean glacier]

Poor car

[solemn coral]

Probably a lead-acid EV

/j

[solar merlin]

they fixed that in IV

[warm cairn]

the car tho is coming along nicely
i like the popup fascia
if you want the whole car to feel more sleek, id suggest adjusting your roof geometry to be a tiny bit lower, and maybe rake the windshield back a bit more

stuff like that goes a long way to make a car feel significantly more sporty

[chrome tapir]

oh also ill try work on the model today :3

[solemn coral]

Rims on this remind me of the Ibishu Medallions (KLJP)

[lean glacier]

I’ll put it on my list, thank you!

[solar merlin]

yeah they do look familiar

[warm cairn]

id also test what the popups look like when open
their shell looks quite big, and it might impede vision for the driver

it might also just look goofy

[chrome tapir]

yeah considering 80s sports cars were literally flatter than a pancake

[uncut steppe]

what's the altair? a celica like thing? (fwd sports car)

[warm cairn]

its an FF covet based sports coupe yes

[chrome tapir]

oh god my hrd drive died

[warm cairn]

with an FR rally version apparently which is very cool

[chrome tapir]

me when 1kbps

[warm cairn]

wtf

rip

[chrome tapir]

it went from 30

mbps

ti 1kbps x3

[solar merlin]

damn 😔

[chrome tapir]

it had to do a random write somwhere ig

me when 5gb file transfer

[clever hedge]

what are the chances this can get merged into kljp in the future

unless kljp has its own sedan and coupe platforms for covet planned

[warm cairn]

i mean

this kind of is doing the job for us

its using KLJP assets which is why im more personally invested in watching this develop than other mods typically

[lean glacier]

Yes, they’re quite big, I might make them smaller.

[lean glacier]

Like I said, there will be a configpack using this mod and the kljp mod.
I’ll try my best to make it work really good with the kljp mod.

[upper pond]

altair, very nice name! (my fav star system btw)

[lean glacier]

Of the gta car of the rotary engine?

[clever hedge]

also, any possibility you could take some images with various matcap applied in blender

tease us more

[chrome tapir]

engine x3

[chrome tapir]

me when matcap cavity

and shadow

[clever hedge]

lovely

[chrome tapir]

matcap

[grim cliff]

Bad GTA car design.
But there is worse, just look at the Vincent.

[teal quarry]

Oh hey everyone...

Wait, Is That a coupe version of Covet?

[solar merlin]

yep

[lean glacier]

Yes, it is

[teal quarry]

Oh cool!

[lean glacier]

now it´s in the game, but I still have to fix the headlights not opening correctly, the headlight shading, some panel gaps, the radiator clipping through the hood and some vibrating nodes.
(and change the slot type of half the parts of the car)

[zealous harbor]

got those bluetooth rear wheels

[lean glacier]

invisible rear wheels

[gloomy cosmos]

It's lookin good so far

[gloomy cosmos]

@grim cliff LetsDrive doesn't really want reflectors on the Pop-ups

[grim cliff]

Should they be on the bumpers instead?

All of these have pop-up headlights, but the side reflectors are on the bumpers.

This is what I mean.

[solar merlin]

it's real lol

[lean glacier]

I won’t do this because there’s already a facelift that uses the normal covet headlights.

[chrome hatch]

those have headlight lighting textures?

[chrome tapir]

set their origin to the edge vertex

[lean glacier]

I have used the 200bx headlights jbeam, so it’s exactly like on the 200bx. But it’s just a placeholder currently.

[lean glacier]

I thought the reason where that it has the wrong nodes where it’s connected to the body. It’s the 200bx headlight jbeam now as a placeholder.

[chrome tapir]

its like the steering wheels or pedals, they need to have their origins where they rotate

[lean glacier]

But steering wheels and pedals are props, the headlights not. They opened, still where at the same place. They just opened not far enough so I think it’s because I didn’t change the beams where they attach.

[chrome tapir]

ohh i getcha now ok

[chrome hatch]

no i mean glow textures

[vale wagon]

name change?

[lean glacier]

Yes

[uncut steppe]

cheap saga?

wouldn't this also compete with the 200bx?

[vale wagon]

honestly i think this fits in more as like a first gen integra

maybe a little more barebones but it seems to be the same basic idea of civic (covet) but more of a luxury coupe

[rotund path]

I see the BX as a more "hardcore" entry level sports car, while the Altair as a bit more of a stylish but practical runabout

Kinda like Celica and Paseo

[solar merlin]

you know what I can seen both
tho i still think it leans closer to prelude

[lean glacier]

maybe you can see what I´ve changed (exept the color)

[grim cliff]

Mechanical components.

[lean glacier]

It´s a change on the body.

[solar merlin]

moved the fogs?

[lean glacier]

no

[solar merlin]

oh am dumb was looking at the edits

[lean glacier]

maybe you can see it from the side (yes, the front is supposed to look like this and no, its not the change I meant)

[uncut steppe]

but the saga takes after the prelude

[lean glacier]

I took most of my inspiration from the prelude.

[chrome tapir]

swept the roof a bit back and down

[solar merlin]

yeah think it's the a-piller

[zinc nimbus]

looks like a stubby prelude

glad to see it coming along smoothly 👍

[clever hedge]

ok now that it's clearer

i think you should make the c pillar a bit rounder and smaller

the prelude's c pillar is exactly what i said

[tough harness]

why does it have to be a prellude for everything

its just going to end up looking like a scuffed saga

[grim cliff]

To me the Altair reminds me of the Integra more.

[vale wagon]

yeah i only think that because of its shorter wheelbase

and its nice too because then as mentioned before theres less in-fighting within the lineup with it being too similar to the saga

[chrome tapir]

beacause the beamcord users need to get what they want itherwise theyll complain endlessly

[grim cliff]

Doesn't the Saga exist?
SMH.

[chrome tapir]

its starting to look closer to LJs mod

not goober

[wintry cairn]

SSSICCCCKKKKKKK

i suggest that you try and raise the bottom of the c-pillar window to be at the same height as the trunk as i think it would aid for a nicer bodyline

like curve it gradually to the back

[lean glacier]

I could try that but I still want to keep covet bodylines and the side windows of every covet start at the same height.

[lean glacier]

The plan was to make it a bit rounder. But I’m not trying to make a prelude, I only use it as inspiration. But I wanted it to look different than it looks currently, and I’m not really happy with it. The trunk will get some changes and the roof too.

And I think I’ll make the back window curved more

And the front will get a redesign too because I don’t like the way the bumper looks.
(It’s to high)

Maybe that you can still use the default covet bumpers.

(I’ll add a new bumper that fits it better, don’t worry)

[solemn coral]

Thing is, the Covet doesn't really look good with rounded features

[lean glacier]

I’ve always wanted to make the back window like that, and I think I’ll try. Everything is reversible if it doesn’t look good. I have many backups.

There’s some things I haven’t said: after I’ve seen a prelude for the first time, I really liked the way it looked. So I wanted to make one in beamng. I quit the project a bit later and one month later I finally started working on the Ibishu Altair.
Took some inspiration from the prelude and at first I wanted to make the rear look exactly like on the prelude.
But it ended up looking different. (I didn’t put my ref pictures in blender)

I want to make this a bit sharper. Currently it only looks like that because of bad remodeling I did yesterday.

Does anyone have a good tutorial how to make lights?

[zealous harbor]

first, you need to know glassblowing...

[lean glacier]

I think I’ll just model them. That’s not a problem. But making them work in game would (maybe) be a problem as I haven’t done lights yet.

[zealous harbor]

im sure there is a tutorial on youtube, or one of the other modders can help

[lean glacier]

Ok, thank you. I’ll look for something or ask.

[zealous harbor]

if you want I can look for a video tomorrow and find one that looks good

[void oak]

Sorry for ping. Is the sunroof unibody for the higher trims will be planned at some point?

[lean glacier]

Pinging is fine for questions and suggestions.
I haven’t made a sunroof yet, but yes, I want to add one for higher trims.

[void oak]

Nice 👍 Thanks for answering my question. I'm excited for the mod progression, because it's pretty neat so far.

[lean glacier]

Thank you.

[wintry cairn]

I see what you’re saying

[wintry cairn]

Bro the fact you don’t shoot down a suggestion and you actually explain both sides of it is such a golden trait to have as a modder.. I’m mad excited for this please keep up the good work brother💪💪

[chrome tapir]

glowmaps are easy enough

[lean glacier]

Thank you. I do my best.

[chrome tapir]

theyre referenced in the materials tab, you also need either a texture on a glow material and also a broken texture, and also on e for light reflectors, i wouldnt advise reusin g the one from the 200BX since old glowmap system

[lean glacier]

Thank you for explaining, and yes, I won’t reuse the 200bx textures. I’m trying to not add new materials to the car and use the default covet materials.

[chrome tapir]

yeah youll need to do so for the popups, othwrwise youll be welcomed to a light that has an indicator x3

iirc covet indicators and fron lihhts are both baked into the same texture, you could use paint.net and converth them to targa, import into blender and the adjust uvs accordingly

id reccomend using the pigeon lights possibly with a modded glowmap theyre square ish and look nice even square

[clever hedge]

will you give the front popup bumper small foglights inspired from the technica lineup of KLJP vehicles?

[timid plank]

i think this is ready to release

[lean glacier]

Why? It’s in very early stages of development. I still have to do many things.

[timid plank]

oh

[lean glacier]

There’s some modeling to do, the longitudinal engine is not ready yet, intakes are still missing, nodes are vibrating and many more things.

[timid plank]

mk

[lean glacier]

I don’t know how they look rn, I have to check later today, but maybe. I’ll rework the bumper so if it looks good I’ll add these foglights.

[clever hedge]

from my view it looks suitable

imagine a 86 with foglights

thats closest it looks to that rn

[warm cairn]

that would only be suitable on Tecnica models

the external foglights on the Tecnica models are specific to the Tecnica

[clever hedge]

that's why i asked about inspired foglights so you could find them in other trims, or as an aftermarket piece

doesnt have to be exactly those foglights

[chrome tapir]

hey did you get pernission to use the kljp rotary yet?

[slim depot]

that would be a good idea

[lean glacier]

I have asked a few minutes ago.

[rotund path]

Hey letsdrive, would you like to see the Altair drawn in my blueprint style after I finish my current project?

[ionic stump]

YEEEEEES COVET COUPE

[lean glacier]

If you want to draw it, sure.
You can let you time with your current project, because I currently rework the rear.

[rotund path]

Alrighty

[wintry cairn]

yeaaaa i like that

were chomping at the bit

[lean glacier]

looks bad like this.

(7 hours of work)

[worldly meadow]

Sick car

[lean glacier]

I´ve scrapped this, I´ll do it different.

[chrome tapir]

yeah it looks too squareish

[wintry cairn]

yea on some ae86 vibes

[lean glacier]

way better after 20 minutes

picture with suspension and bumpers in right place

[rugged condor]

the roof looks a little too tall now

or maybe the front end is too short one of those are throwing me off

[lean glacier]

I think it’s too short. But that’s nothing I can’t change. The front will get a rework anyways. The bumper goes also too high.

[rugged condor]

yeah the front is too short

glad its getting a rework tho

[lean glacier]

I don’t like the bumper that I’ve made and the headlights should be lower.

[stark edge]

omg i never thought a actual coupe covet would look so good

good safety?

crumple zone could be massive for the rear

i just noticed it has the same wheelbase as the covet 😭

crumple zone gonna go wild

[wintry cairn]

bro hes killing it

[stark edge]

ikr

[zealous harbor]

fr

[lean glacier]

The wheelbase is a little bit shorter.

[stark edge]

oh

[wanton crescent]

YASSSS

[gloomy cosmos]

The Altair is probably gonna be basically a street legal go-kart

[robust plinth]

sounds like some modern suv

[warm cairn]

the c pillar looks broken now, it looks like it bows inward towards the front of the car
lowering the roof, and extending it backwards helped fix that issue.
also, give the top of the door some angle back, so it looks more like the car is in motion and more "sporty"
i also extended the front end, but thats not necessary.

i also made the rear glass bow outward a tad more, so it looks more Integra-like

very common for the period, would be remise to not include it here

[lean glacier]

I’ll do that, thanks. Looks great!

And yes, the front will get a bit longer. I’ve also noticed that it looks too short.

[timid plank]

cant wait for the altair, is it like a mini 200bx?

[clever hedge]

looks yes

inside its still a covet

or you could think of it as a mini pessima in that regard

since that is fwd

[timid plank]

200covet

[lean glacier]

Altair

[timid plank]

baby 200bx

[lean glacier]

You could call it a 200bx, but it’s still a covet. Most of my inspiration was from the Honda prelude.

[timid plank]

ik

[lean glacier]

I could have called it 160bx or something like that but since it’s fwd in some models it wouldn’t really fit.

[young peak]

in some models? 👀

does that imply that i could do a rwd swap?

[lean glacier]

Gtz models will have a longitudinal engine and rwd, also 4wd available

[young peak]

ooo sounds fun

[wraith dawn]

What is the cheapest variant for the RWD option?

[lean glacier]

I don’t know yet.

[timid plank]

is it kljp part compatible

[stray lintel]

Meanwhile the fwd 200sx

[lean glacier]

Yes. There will also be a configpack that add some configs with parts from the kljp mod.

[chrome hatch]

wasnt that an entirely different car

[zealous harbor]

can you keep a version with the short front? i kinda like it

[stray lintel]

Yes but that dude was comparing a 200bx to what is still a covet but coupe

[solid siren]

blud just squished a pessima

[ember ruin]

Nuh uh

[lean glacier]

I‘m sorry to say that but I don’t think I’ll do that because I think it wouldn’t make sense to have a shorter version of the car in the mod.

[zealous harbor]

Okay, that's fine. I guess that makes sense that it wouldnt work.

your mod, not mine. it should be how you want

[lean glacier]

Yes but I still took a lot of inspiration from ideas that others gave me.

[zealous harbor]

yeah but the final say is yours

[lean glacier]

Yes

[timid plank]

yay !!

[grim cliff]

Awesome.

[timid plank]

can i use altair parts on normal covet ??

[lean glacier]

If you mean the popup headlights, yes you can use them on the normal covet.
I’ll also put a some configs with the normal covet and popup headlights in the mod, that will be the 1983-1986 covet.

[timid plank]

yay

time to make a pop up crx

[lean glacier]

For that I’d have to make changes to the unibody. But I’d have to get permission from kueso to do that. But I’ll ask since many people said they want do have a popup crx.

[timid plank]

yay !!

i hope its not like the kljp popups on the pescoupe (unrelated)

[lean glacier]

What aren’t you liking on them?

[timid plank]

theres a freaking pescoupe headlight gap

[lean glacier]

The pescoupe is a different mod. It also adds new fenders and a hood. If you use the default fenders and the hood that’s included in kljp you’ll have no problems.

[timid plank]

oh ok

[regal tinsel]

dang this'll have popups??

thats dope

[lean glacier]

Is this better?
(Did I miss something you´ve recommended?)

[chrome tapir]

amazing

[zealous harbor]

you did miss one thing i recommend having: tires/j

[lean glacier]

I’ve hidden the suspension before I took this picture and wheels are not in the 3d model as the car uses default wheels.

[zealous harbor]

makes sense lol

[warm cairn]

significantly improved, liking it a lot

and yeah you'll have to extend the Tecnica skirts and stuff

[rancid shell]

Kind of cool actually

[lean glacier]

Thanks for reminding me, I forgot to extend it. Btw I’ve dmed you because I have a question.

[wintry cairn]

looks fantastic

[velvet cedar]

Beautiful and clean work !

[grim cliff]

I wonder if this will have Mugen-inspired body kits.

[lean glacier]

idk yet if i´ll add new bodykits than the ones that exist in the base game.

Currently theres only the tecnica bodykit. But I´ll add a widebody for the gtz.

no bodykit

tecnica bodykit

[grim cliff]

I see now.
Also congrats for 100 reactions!

[lean glacier]

thank you! I havent even noticed it.

[grim cliff]

No problem! 😄

[lean glacier]

added a transfercase

[grim cliff]

Looks transaxle, correct me if I'm wrong.

[lean glacier]

transmission and transfercase. there will be a driveshaft to the front differential.

[grim cliff]

Oh, I see.

[rugged condor]

niceeee

[lean glacier]

👀

[gloomy cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/mazda-mazda-dorito-dorito-gif-19603967

[chrome tapir]

OOO

did you get permission???

[spring needle]

Drito

[warm cairn]

Yes it's all good

[lean glacier]

since I love overcomplicating things I´ve even split the front driveshaft in 3 parts so there´ll be 3 props in the game, will look better.

[gloomy cosmos]

That looks like french engineering

[warm cairn]

german

i think audi had a system very similar to if not identical to this

[oak relic]

probably something like saab too

no idea about that though

[warm cairn]

no saab had a transaxle mounted backwards

the entire engine was longitudinal but rotated 180 degrees

so the timing belt was facing the firewall and the transmission was up by the radiator

[oak relic]

yeah thats what i was thinking of

i dont get into the mechanical side of things very much

[gloomy cosmos]

That is an extremely dumb idea

[warm cairn]

its not actually

it was pretty ingenious

the engineering behind it is wild

its just unorthodox

[gloomy cosmos]

Well, it sounded dumb to me, but saab does odd stuff

[warm cairn]

unfortunately i dont know a whole lot about the history

[zealous harbor]

fits @unorthodox perfectly then

[gloomy cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/discat-loya-loya_phelps-summoned-pinged-gif-20100844

[lean glacier]

the model of the drivetrain for the longitudinal engine is ready

[clever hedge]

whats the engine

1.6 sohc?

[lean glacier]

Rotary

[clever hedge]

ooh

damn im down bad

[wraith stratus]

Seems like Ibishu Altair and Hirochi Noita gonna have a talk

[vale wagon]

the noita is a hatch though?

[misty coral]

It does have a sedan version

[rotund path]

Still kinda occupy the same market

Inexpensive sport coupes just they package space differently

[wanton crescent]

rwd altair

[clever hedge]

whats the hirochi noita never heard of it

oh its the 86 based one

i pick the altair side

💪🏼

[lean glacier]

I like the noita, it looks really good. But I kinda like the Altair more too.

[clever hedge]

dont think both cars are in the same leauge though

as far as i know rwd version of altair is a homolugation model that is turned into awd for rallying right

while noita is exclusively a rwd platform

[lean glacier]

Haven’t really thought about that, I’ve just planned to make the gtz version rwd, and a special version 4wd but a year or so after Ibishu entered rallying with the Altair. But yes, the gtz is like a homolugation model.

[lean glacier]

Also, if somebody is interested in helping me with the mod, especially with the jbeam feel free to dm me.
I’m not that experienced with jbeam, I’ve only done some engine swaps and smaller parts before. To make progress of the mod a bit faster, that would be really good. I’ve had many issues with vibrating nodes when editing jbeams, if these issues wouldn’t be there I would have most of the jbeam ready.

[obsidian fossil]

I only can make skins sorry

[chrome tapir]

vibrating nodes can be fixed by increasing the nodeweight iirc

they can also be caused by colliding nodes/triangles or just the beam being flexed or compressed too much

[lean glacier]

I know, but it didn’t really help. Sometimes it works, sometimes not, so idk what’s the reason. The rear suspension causes a little bit of vibration.

[chrome tapir]

adjust these accordingly iirc beam longbound is how much a beam can expand (1.0) means 2x length and vice versa for short bound

[chrome tapir]

dont overly increase it, also the nodes might be loose, so could try throw in some non colliding support node like the hoods and trunks have

[lean glacier]

I’ll try to fix it tomorrow. I don’t think I need support nodes for the suspension, it is attached to the body.
Yes, I won’t increase nodeweight randomly. I still want to keep it reasonable.

[chrome tapir]

i mean add nodes to the suspension if you can

or support beams that dont have an exuivalent as a mesh, just for better support

[lean glacier]

The suspension is not loose. But when I have it selected the body does vibrate. So I might have to adjust the beamstrenght.
Btw do longer beams cause more vibrating or less or doesn’t it matter?

[chrome tapir]

yes they do, you can eliminate it by making a rectangle shape with 2 crossbeams, doesnt have to be a thick rectangle, but itd give better support in theory

[lean glacier]

Ok, thank you!

[timid plank]

whats next, sedan? if so, cant wait!

[robust plinth]

there us one called pessima

[full swift]

I’m happy seeing more Ibishu cars being made

[timid plank]

covet sedan

[lean glacier]

I´m not sure if I´ll make a covet sedan next. But the altair will still take some time, I´m trying to make it as good as possible. Also there where some issues with the jbeam. I´ve deleted the old jbeam of the body and started again. Now I´m almost ready and there are no nodes vibrating currently. I still have to adjust the nodeweight but the nodes will get slightly heavier than they are currenty so I don´t thibk there will be issues.

the car is unhappy

[chrome tapir]

did you fix the node wobble?

also thats goofy i like that

[lean glacier]

yes, but I still have to add 4 nodes, I hope it´s still working correctly after that.

[chrome tapir]

so its not vibrating anymore? thats good '

[lean glacier]

the c-pillar was vibrating, then i moved one node of it 1cm to the front and it worked.

[lean glacier]

the jbeam of the body is (almost) ready, I only have to add some triangles. The best thing: no vibrating nodes

[chrome tapir]

yipeeee instert dancing cat here

[lean glacier]

The jbeam of the body is ready. Also no vibration with the rear suspension and fueltank installed. That was an issue before.

[lean glacier]

For anyone wondering how the car drives (without doors and windows, they don´t work yet): It drives amazing, and because its heavier in the rear than the normal covet you can corner really nice, theres a bit of oversteer but not too much, just perfect.

[rotund path]

That's what I like to hear, the basic covet handles horribly understeery

[lean glacier]

Removing the swaybars helps a bit to fix this.

[lean glacier]

I’ve created a discord server if you’re interested. I’ll post some more detailed updates there and you can also ask me questions better.
(Check pinned message)

[lean glacier]

the hood is ready. The node where the latch is attached still needs to be moved so it´ll open correctly.

[rugged condor]

DAMN🔥🔥🔥

[zealous harbor]

looking good, man!

[versed ledge]

so neat!

[mystic gyro]

nice

[lean glacier]

(no pictures, sorry)
I started to work on the non popup headlight version because the popup headlights still need some time and I want to get a beta version for my beta testers ready. I only have to add the fenders, it sadly can’t use the normal covet fenders because it’s 4cm longer in the front. For kljp I’ll ask Kueso if I can include modified fenders and hood in the configpack.

Or should I make it the same length as the covet so it can use default fenders and hood?
(Would be better for mod support for custom covet hoods and fenders, but the quarterpanels would be missing for a mod that adds something like a bodykit)

[stoic cairn]

the longer fenders would probably look better

[lean glacier]

Yes, I know. But I have to test if it’s worth it. Luckily it’s a very easy change to make thanks to blender jbeam plugin.

[lean glacier]

finally found out why the hood wasn´t working: The blender jbeam plugin removed the latch node when I was exporting the jbeam

[lean glacier]

got the late version with the normal covet headlights ready.

[mystic gyro]

niceee

looks lovely

[gloomy cosmos]

I can't wait to beat the absolute crap out of it on Utah

[pure parrot]

will it be able to have parts from other covet mods installed?

[solid siren]

drag car time

[grim cliff]

It’s a different unibody so I don’t think so

but idk my knowledge of modding mostly lies in modelling and not jbeam and slots

[lean glacier]

Headlights, front fascias and front bumpers and engines will work. I have a nodeoffset on these slots so it can use default parts. But hoods and fenders won’t work because they’re 4cm longer and use a different slot than default. And if you’re asking for parts from the kljp mod, I’m trying my best to make them compatible. And since I’m making a configpack too that adds configs with kljp parts I’ll include longer early hood and early fenders from kljp in the configpack. I already got permission to do that.

[solemn coral]

Can you make a unibody that just uses the regular fenders?

And hood

[lean glacier]

What fenders from what mod do you want to use?
Please keep in mind that it wouldn’t really make sense to have a longer and shorter unibody in this mod. And still, you wouldn’t have rear fenders, and I don’t think making this the normal covet slot would work.

[solemn coral]

Yeah, true

I'm the type to sometimes pile on mods, so I want maximum compatibility pretty much

I do wonder why you're trying to differentiate this so much from the regular Covet though

Cause if ever I feel like a Covet Coupe would share as much as possible, rather than having very differentiated parts (thank development cost for that)

[lean glacier]

The front could work, but the rear definitely not. And that I won’t get anyone complaining „why do these fenders from this mod only work in the rear“.
Also, it looks better with a slightly longer hood.

[solemn coral]

Yeah, just the front mainly

I'm not asking about the rear, I know that it'd have to be very different

[lean glacier]

But having other fenders in the front and not in the rear would look weird. But what type of fenders do you wanna use?

[solemn coral]

Mainly fenders from other mods if they're available

(for example, Covet Type-RS)

[warm cairn]

aw hell naw wtf is that

[solemn coral]

I guess my standards aren't that high (it's still probably better than what I could churn up :/)

[warm cairn]

most sport compact coupes are just renamed and re-engineered compacts?

[solemn coral]

I mean I guess I'm mainly referencing stuff like the 5th/6th-gen Civic coupes, which had the same exact front end as well

[warm cairn]

it simply depends on how much a manufacturer wants to differentiate the model

the prelude shares parts and engineering with other hondas

it wasnt its own platform i dont think, ever

this shares literally no original bodywork with the covet anymore so i think its fair to separate it out

as far as im aware the fascia isnt permanent but idk

[solemn coral]

Yeah, that's what I kept griping about, I was half-hoping that it would be straight-up a Covet Coupe, sharing as much bodywork as possible

[warm cairn]

i mean it still is very obviously that

[solemn coral]

Like, zero differentiation outside the coupe body I mean

Everything about the Covet/EDX, but in a three-box package

[lean glacier]

Fascia, grille and and headlights still use the normal slots.

[warm cairn]

ah alright

[solemn coral]

I might make a body that just uses regular Covet parts for it then

[warm cairn]

im not sure why you're so hung up on this

the EG civic coupe doesnt share any bodywork with the sedan

[solemn coral]

Even the front?

[warm cairn]

i think its all slightly different

yeah

[solemn coral]

Oh

[warm cairn]

perhaps not

but it shares the same look yes

i know accord coupes didnt typically share bodywork with sedan counterparts

[undone swan]

wow

[solemn coral]

Apparently the sedan has a slightly longer fender IRL

(and hood)

[warm cairn]

yeah

they just look similar for obvious reasons

they fooled you too lol

[solemn coral]

Then I guess having the coupe with a longer front end makes sense

[lean glacier]

Like I’ve said before, custom fenders are planned, and I also take suggestions.

Currently only a factory widebody kit is planned (and the technica parts), but if someone else has ideas feel free to ask.
I definitely want to have more aftermarket parts.

[warm cairn]

you dont gotta change it all, i was just making the point that sport coupe variants tend to have unique bodywork entirely
its kind of why they phased out, its expensive to produce for relatively small buyer subsets

the sport coupe market exited for a very short period of time all things considered

[lean glacier]

The front is actually ready and it used a longer hood and fenders.

[solemn coral]

Now the question is, did the newer ones (i.e. 9th/10th-gen Civic) use the same fenders and hood as the sedans?

[warm cairn]

no those were different too

[solemn coral]

Cause if so, perhaps I've been looking at it from too new a perspective

Odd

[warm cairn]

sedan

coupe

[solemn coral]

It feels like it's just the bumper that's changed, but maybe that's an illusion

[warm cairn]

not sure but they are the same model years

[solemn coral]

I looked it up, yep just the bumper/grille (here's the coupe front on a 4-door)

[warm cairn]

when sport coupes started getting difficult to sell (by the time this civic was on the market, and about 5 years earlier) manufacturers made less effort to substantially change them

[solemn coral]

And I guess that's where I went from regarding "the coupe should basically be a different body and nothing more"

[warm cairn]

post economic recession too, kinda makes sense

eh it does depend on the use case

but typically, at least in the 90's things were different

[lean glacier]

Rear suspension is finally attached properly, before it was wiggling around when I was driving over the rocks terrain type in gridmap v2.

[timid plank]

cant wait to use kljp parts on this bad boy

[vale relic]

what's the altair?

[gloomy cosmos]

Its a coupe version of the Covet with transverse and longitudinal engines, fixed and pop up headlights

[clever hedge]

now when you think about it that's literally what the AE85 and AE86 was in the corolla lineup

honestly, imagine the covet's sr-tec engine longitudinally mounted on a rwd/awd platform

[gloomy cosmos]

Oh yeah, but there is a Lore-Friendly AE86 that exists

[clever hedge]

ik, the hirochi something

[gloomy cosmos]

Noita

[lean glacier]

I’ve took more inspiration from the Honda prelude 3rd gen than from the Toyota ae86 (for the body at least)

[signal patrol]

that looks alright...

[primal kernel]

I have one of these

[solar merlin]

Lookin good B)

[timid plank]

wEn ReLeZ!!?!?!?!?!?!!? (joking)

[wraith stratus]

Tomorrow

[proud cobalt]

March 74th

[rugged condor]

yesterday

[fervent dust]

Exactly April 17th, 2044 at 7:53pm est

[lean glacier]

February 30th

[grim cliff]

When it's ready.

[signal patrol]

NO, feb 30th

[lean glacier]

feb 30th release date is confirmed

[chrome tapir]

Yez

very goob

[versed ledge]

February 30th 2025😀

[lean glacier]

So, the rotary engine is in the car, and the transmission, driveshaft and rear differential too. Only the front differential and transfercase is left.
I also still have to change some piping.
(Sorry for not telling progress, I’ve worked on the mod everyday but mostly told progress on my discord server)

[lean glacier]

I’ll add ITBs too (still looking for some refs

Maybe a bit like this

[robust plinth]

yay

i love high revving na engines

[zealous harbor]

I also enjoy revving Sodium engines.

😂

[robust plinth]

no

[clever hedge]

first generation signia has itb setups like this on the rotary engine if you are wondering

[lean glacier]

Oh, interesting, that would be a great reference.

But I don’t think it’ll fit on top of the engine

[clever hedge]

you can also try a filtered itb design

filtered itbs are safer for the engine

i dont recall seeing someone do a filtered itb setup on any car yet so you could be the first possibly

and make the filter detachable if you wish to, for people who doesnt want it

[lean glacier]

Thank you for the idea, I will do that. And I will have a filter as a slot on the intake so if someone wants full power.

[lean glacier]

I´ve improved the rear of the car

• It now uses the mr fueltanks
• I´ve fixed some uv map issues
• the rear subframe is now part of the body, it was a separate part before

[rugged condor]

niceeee

[lean glacier]

currently i´m working on the center console. (but no promises, idk If I can make a nice one)

[timid plank]

idk if this got asked before but will kljp parts be supported on the coupe? also, will the altair parts be supported on the hatchback?

[lean glacier]

The popup headlights will be supported on the hatchback, and some parts from kljp will be supported on the Altair.
The early headlights, fascia, bumper for example.

[lean glacier]

UV map is done. So now its confirmed, I´ll add a center console.

[lean glacier]

and here for all of the automatic transmission enjoyers

[rugged condor]

yoooo

[signal patrol]

autos are alright in busy traffic, but manuals are fun everywhere else

[pure parrot]

Would it be possible to have the digital race dashboard in this mod?

[lean glacier]

That would be possible, I’ll try to add it

[gloomy cosmos]

A factory digital gauge cluster similar to the ae86 one would be cool if it's possible to add it

[lean glacier]

The car had massive grip issues. Now I’ve changed the way the rear suspension works (now it’s almost the same as covet mr) , and reattached it.
I also didn’t had to increase the nodeweights of the rear subframe nodes. Before the subframe was very heavy, and now it’s way lighter (same nodeweight as mr covet).
That fixed one more issue, the b pillar was vibrating after crashing.

The car still doesn’t have the best grip, but it’s a 170hp engine in a car with 5inch wide rear tires.
I’ll still rework the rear differential and drivetrain because it’s just temporary.

[lean glacier]

That would be cool but idk how to make one. If I’d know it I’d make one.

[vale wagon]

so basically, still a grip issue but it doesnt have enough power to be tricky anyway?

[gloomy cosmos]

Ahh, alr

[lean glacier]

It is controllable, but when driving a corner you have to be very careful with throttle.
But wider tires will help and the rework of the rear drivetrain hopefully too.

[vale wagon]

ohh ok!

[lean glacier]

Even 13x7 wheels fix the oversteering. The car still wants to slide but there’s not enough power to slide.

[chrome tapir]

could ask Kebernaut if he has time

he made a cluster for the EVO and its based on the vivace so i would say you could do that too here

or just take the KLJP digital gauge, looks p close to the ae86s

[lean glacier]

I forgot that the vivace existed, and then there’s also the soliad wendover. Maybe I’ll try to make one myself, if I can’t do it I’ll ask someone else.

[lean glacier]

The traction issues are solved.

1. it uses the mr covet wheeldata
2. I’ve changed the torque coupling and torque arm nodes in the wheeldata.

[rugged condor]

yooo

[timid plank]

oh

[lean glacier]

I’ll try to add a digital gauge cluster, I really want to try it.
Also, I want to add an active 4wd transfer case, that is fwd but if the wheels don’t have traction it switches to 4wd.

[timid plank]

altair dakar real!???

[grim cliff]

Sounds... innovative.

[lean glacier]

There won’t be a Dakar version but a rally version and a rallycross version sold to the public. Also maybe an aftermarket off-road version.

[timid plank]

dakar = rallycross

thats what i meant

[worn ocean]

Hmmm.... What about to do sedan config with AWD like this Honda Civic 4WD?

[lean glacier]

A sedan won’t be included in the first release, maybe I’ll do one later.

[lean glacier]

I´ll try to modify this a bit so it´ll fit my expectations for the active transfercase.
But I don´t know what any of this means. But I think I can find it out.

[lean glacier]

got some progress: I found to how to set the minimum lock of the transfercase. It´s now set to 1.

Now I only have to find out how to make the locking less sensitive so it allows a little bit of wheelspin before the transfercase locks

[gloomy cosmos]

Are you attempting to make an awd system similar to Attesa E-TS?

[lean glacier]

how does that one work?

[gloomy cosmos]

Attesa E-TS was an awd system developed by Nissan and was used in quite a few cars including the r32-r34 Skyline, Attesa would sense if the rear tires are losing traction and would send anywhere up to 50 percent of power to the front wheels

[lean glacier]

That’s how I want to make my awd system. But it sends power to the rear wheels when the front wheels loose traction.

[gloomy cosmos]

Ahh, so basically Attesa reversed

[lean glacier]

Yes

[gloomy cosmos]

If you want to read into Attesa more since I gave a rough explanation, here's the link to it https://dsportmag.com/the-tech/education/attesa-explained-understanding-nissans-electronic-torque-split-technology/

[lean glacier]

Thank you!

[gloomy cosmos]

Np

[lean glacier]

I now have a working version of the lua, now I only have to get it from the vivace to the Altair.
I just pasted the lua in Microsoft copilot and let the ai explain me what what parameter does and how the lua works. And it was actually really helpful. It works.

[chrome tapir]

noicew

[lean glacier]

But it won’t be the next thing I’m doing, next I’ll make a map. It’ll be set in Germany in the Oberlausitz.

But I’ll first finish the Altair.

[lean glacier]

I updated the discord link because it wasn’t working

[lean glacier]

I´ve completely redesigned the center console, and I´m really happy with it.

A range selector also fits now.

(4wd, fwd)

[gloomy cosmos]

Nice

[worn ocean]

👀

[unborn niche]

Will there be any possibility of a spec off-road based

Or some sort of shooting brake

[lean glacier]

Off course there will be one. I already have thought about the lore of it:
Ibishu wanted to show what the 4wd system could really do and made this concept. It does have a turbocharged (Idk yet) engine, locking diffs and off-road suspension.

[clever hedge]

panda 4x4 vibes?

[unborn niche]

Nice

Great to hear

[regal tinsel]

cant wait to do a track build on this thang

[lean glacier]

I´ve made some better mudflaps that are fully jbeamed and fixed the rear bumper node vibrations.

Also there there will be no mod progress for 5 days as I´m on vacation.

[grim cliff]

omg coupe cover lets gooooo

canoot wait1!!!1!!11

[clever hedge]

looking forward to seeing the compability with kljp early frontends

and a image of the popup frontend soon

[lean glacier]

Now that most things are fixed I can start remaking everything from the popup front end. Most things where not that good and now I can do them better as I’ve leaned a lot.

[zinc nimbus]

will there be a digital gauge cluster?

new center console looking fire tho

[timid plank]

since the pop up edx is gone i can finally remake it

[lean glacier]

I want to try to make one. But first I want to get the popup headlights ready.

Also thanks for the pictures, they’ll help I think.

[lean glacier]

While I was on vacation, I had an idea how to fix the active transfer case. It worked. I also fixed the rwd and did some testing.

[stray lintel]

Nice!

[lean glacier]

started working on the tailgate. First I´ve changed the model so the tailgate is a bit larger

[rugged condor]

zamnnnn

[zealous harbor]

tailgate?!? Pickup truck!!!

XD

[lean glacier]

*trunk

I´ve definitely made to many parts for the pickup

[zealous harbor]

lol

[gloomy cosmos]

Lol

[mild flare]

absolutely get it, working on the sbr put me in that mode too lol.

[lean glacier]

finished the tailgate (It´s called tailgate on the covet @zealous harbor)
The model will still get some improvements like a hinge.

[zealous harbor]

you got me there lol

its looking good tho

[lean glacier]

thanks!

Also made the first backup of the mod this year.
I mostly only make backups of the model. But today I almost messed up the whole mod because I exported the jbeam from blender without checking the filename. (overwrote the body with the tailgate) Luckily I was able to revert it with visual studio because I had the jbeam of the body open there.

[zealous harbor]

good thing you saved it

*were able to save it

[lean glacier]

Yes, if I that wouldn’t have worked I would have to use a version of the body from the 22. December.
And I did a lot of changes since then.

[zealous harbor]

that would have been a huge setback

[lean glacier]

The biggest improvements# on the body since then is the rear subframe, and making that again would have taken very long.

[zealous harbor]

yeah i bet

what still needs to be done?

[lean glacier]

The longitudinal engines, the turbocharger for the rotary engine, the lettering, skins need to be fixed, the digital gauges and the popup headlights need to be added. And some more things I don’t remember of some fixes.

My beta testers will get the first beta version next week I think.

[zealous harbor]

nice

getting closer

[lean glacier]

I‘m working on the mod everyday when I have time, I enjoy it, especially if things work how I want them to work.

[zealous harbor]

makes sense lol

[lean glacier]

I´ve improved the tailgate and finished the rear of the interior.
Now I´m trying to fix some reflection issues onthe outside and some uv maps so the skins work correctly.

[timid plank]

looks like its ready for release!

[zinc nimbus]

there might be some work left before release

[lean glacier]

Someone said this before when the mod wasn’t ready, and now it’s not ready too. My beta testers will get the first beta soon, but the release version isn’t ready. The body might be ready but there’s still the engines, some interior parts and the popup headlights.

[timid plank]

oh ok

[lean glacier]

The skin uvs should be better now, I’ve worked 3 hours on them now and they’re still not perfect but at least they kinda work.

[clever hedge]

any info on the early KLJP frontend compability?

and will you plan on adding longitudinal mounted engines to KLJP frontends?

[lean glacier]

It’ll be compatible.

[lean glacier]

What do you mean with that?
The longitudinal engines will be only for the Altair, no covet will get them.

[clever hedge]

the altair will get the kljp frontend, yes?

will these engines fit inside these frontends?

iirc they have a different engine bay shape near the radiator

[lean glacier]

It’ll fit, the front is a bit longer on the Altair (there will be a modified early hood and early fenders from kljp) and there’s more than enough space.

[clever hedge]

epic!

lovely

[lean glacier]

the exhaust model is ready. Next I have to fix the driveshafts because I´ve moved the transfercase

here´s a better screenshot with fixed driveshafts

[snow knot]

Damn I thought it was a liftback

[lean glacier]

since the car now has an exhaust and meets german emission regulations I can do some testing on the Nordschleife.

[warm cairn]

Looks really tight dude

Nice work

[lean glacier]

Thank you!
Yes, everything is a bit tight but there should be no clipping.

[warm cairn]

i meant tight as in "it looks well put together"

[lean glacier]

Sorry I misunderstood something 😅
But thanks!

[timid plank]

wen relez!!!! (joke)

[lean glacier]

30.February

[timid plank]

yay

[lean glacier]

The longitudinal 2.0l engine is ready, the intakes also (exept supercharger, I´ll make that one now)

[solar merlin]

lookin great

[lean glacier]

it has all the power you need

[stray lintel]

Agreed

[stray lintel]

Just a thought, possibility of equal length headers?

Kinda like these

Just a thought

[clever hedge]

i wouldnt mind detailed engine upgrades

as long as they are not extra complicated

unrelated but DFA and KLJP and a few other mod cars has camshaft upgrades too

[lean glacier]

I‘d like to add these but I’m not that good with Bezier curves.

[stray lintel]

Maybe not like that style specifically but something like that

[lean glacier]

I’ll see what I can do.
I also still have to add the tubular headers.

[stray lintel]

Fair nuff

[lean glacier]

I’ll see what I can do, I also wanted to add some engine upgrades, a camshaft upgrade is a good idea, and maybe I’ll add more later.

Also a camshaft upgrade would allow me to set the maximum rpm more realistic

[clever hedge]

you can also make it so aggressive cam upgrades gives the car a rough idle

i only know of retrox's dfa mod with such a feature and it's amazing

https://medal.tv/games/beamng/clips/1ReUxTEQJkj9zE/spok?invite=cr-MSxRRUksMjgxMjE1MzEs

a video of the rough idle

basically rpm goes up and down at idle position

more so on more aggressive cams

[lean glacier]

this is the torque curve of the 2.5l DOHC i4 engine. Is that good or should I change it a bit?

[steep nebula]

that's a lot of torque damm

only my opinion but i would think the covet would suit better a low torque high power engine with a high rev( if this engine is sport use oriented) to better suit its real life counterpart

[lean glacier]

That’s true but it’s also a pretty large engine, I’ll take a look at real life 2.5l i4 engines.

These larger engines have a lot of torque

[steep nebula]

alright ^^

[gloomy cosmos]

My TJ Wrangler has the 2.5L and that makes 120hp and 140lbft factory, but mine has some upgrades so mine makes anywhere from 120-140hp and 140-160lbft, maybe more

[stray lintel]

All the torque, 0 power

[lean glacier]

the power is in kilowatts, not in hp. It has about 200hp.

[stray lintel]

Eh, still a unit of measurement referring to power

[lean glacier]

But I´m trying to make a new one in automation, with 200-220hp and peak torque at lower rpm (3000-4000)

[stray lintel]

Ah

Tbh imo, to get stuff like that, it's easier to achieve it with beam code

Thats my thought on it tho

I just dont understand automation enough to get numbers like that lol

[lean glacier]

I know, Automation isn´t the fastest way but I want to learn how to use it correctly.

[stray lintel]

Fair nuff

If that's so, then I'd try to make the car have more stroke

Er

Motor, not car

[lean glacier]

I´ll try that. This is the 3rd try now, but making engines in automation is pretty fast so it doesn´t really matter.

[stray lintel]

Just be careful with the rpm, more stroke usually causes you to not rev that high

I think...

[lean glacier]

Yes, thats right, but I think i can get it right.

[stray lintel]

👍

[lean glacier]

the engine has 103mm stroke now and it survives up to 8500rpm

[stray lintel]

4 cylinder dohc superiority

[chrome tapir]

make it up to 10k rpm lol

[lean glacier]

the 1.7l engine is made for these very high rpms

[stray lintel]

D17 moment?

Or b17?

[lean glacier]

idk, I just decided to add a 1.7l engine

the 2.5l i4 now has 297nm@3000rpm and 201hp@6500rpm

[stray lintel]

Towing trim moment

[lean glacier]

I´ll add a camshaft upgrade option so the engine can get more high end torque.

[chrome tapir]

holy

[lean glacier]

just noticed I said 300rpm.
It´s 3000rpm

[lean glacier]

sorry, I meant 3000rpm

[chrome tapir]

no still chonker engin

[lean glacier]

maybe I´ll change the peak torque to 5000rpm.

[chrome tapir]

nuh 3k seems fine

[chrome tapir]

no still chonker engin

[lean glacier]

didn´t watch the temp gauge

[lean glacier]

I´ve finished one full lap on the Nordschleife.
I was using the 2.5l i4 engine with 230 hp, 4wd and 13x5 wheels.

My average speed was 124.6km/h, the fuel consumption was 29.1l/100km.

The car drives amazing, and it does allow some driving errors.
Driving it at the limit is very fun.
Understeer and oversteer feels good too.

[grim cliff]

Awesome!

[lean glacier]

Now I´ll try to figure out how the digital gauges work in beamng.

[lean glacier]

I´ve decided to use my time for more important things. But If somebody wants to help with the digital gauges you can dm me.

[oak relic]

contatc ueso man

[lean glacier]

I´ve started to rework the popup headlights.

[solar merlin]

nice B)

[timid plank]

where to download (joke)

[lean glacier]

modland (real)

[timid plank]

omg yipee (joke)

[nova hound]

didn't zeit made the digital gauges

bruh

i sent this message hours ago 💀

[lean glacier]

discord being discord again

[nova hound]

meant for this

[lean glacier]

I´m really happy with it.
Looks way better than before too.

[solar merlin]

super cute lol

[chrome tapir]

its easy to mod the vivace shit tbh

Kebernaut did it for the 200bx EVO its literally just some changes to the svg and html stuff and puttin the model in

[chrome tapir]

oooh sweet

[lean glacier]

But I want to make one that´s like on the wendover with bars, and i don´t have the time and knowledge about html and the other stuff.

So I´ll focus on the other things first.

[chrome tapir]

its literaly mearly the same code stuff, ill be doing the elan digital gauges (or helping at least) and we got a similar design in mind so i can help there too on the Altair

[lean glacier]

Like modeling the popup headlights and watching livestreams meanwhile

[chrome tapir]

lol

[lean glacier]

that would be awesome.

[lean glacier]

that´s actually a good method of never getting bored.

[lean glacier]

are the things you´ve said I have to improve better now?

[chrome tapir]

oh yeah the pop ups look amazing man

[chrome tapir]

and burnt out

commited that mistake of not watching or doung sth else while aming the elan

im so burnt out now lol

[gloomy cosmos]

It looks so cute lol

[lean glacier]

I always listen to something while modding, and I never was burned out while working on the altair.

[chrome tapir]

i mean i did fix the sedan, lights, and made some stuff better AND made a fucking liftback in only 5 days with no stop so lol

[lean glacier]

that´s a lot

[chrome tapir]

i remeshed half the car in one day lol

[chrome tapir]

yeah i should atart doing that tbh

im now playing around with it so

[lean glacier]

When I´ve finished something on the jbeam/model I always drive the car around a bit. Just so i don´t get burned out when modding and to have fun and enjoy the car.

[chrome tapir]

cant wait for the Altair beta btw :3

[chrome tapir]

the elan is so fun to drive tbh, the 1.7 engine (literally sound modded covet 1.4) sound smeksi too

[lean glacier]

I´ts almost ready. I think I can release it with popup headlights

[chrome tapir]

ill slam the Altair into a wall at 300mph trust me

its my way of testing jbeam issues lol

and it always works

[lean glacier]

that´s great!
The altair is also very fun to drive.

[chrome tapir]

well 200mph lel

[chrome tapir]

remember to leave some bugs to find lol

[lean glacier]

when I did testing there where no big issues. And no spiking.

[chrome tapir]

ooh noice

[lean glacier]

Currently there are probably some, but I didn´t find them yet.

[chrome tapir]

i will

:3

its basically my job as a beta tester tbh so

[lean glacier]

one known issue is that the offroad coilovers need tuning, but dutchy is going to help with that when he has the beta

[chrome tapir]

oki

[tulip ledge]

i cant wait for that mod i like that

[gloomy cosmos]

Is a carbon hood planned?

[lean glacier]

If I find the carbon material and it looks good, yes

[chrome tapir]

carbon is in common

you can also map it to like covet_carbon

it should map fine with an unwrap

its in common yeah

[lean glacier]

thats good, if it´s in common it´ll be easy to make a uv map for the hood where the material looks good.

[chrome tapir]

yep :3

[worn ocean]

hmmm

[lean glacier]

this

[worn ocean]

oh k

[chrome tapir]

the signia already is that

so nu

the 200bx early also has the same headlight design

[gloomy cosmos]

Wha?

[lean glacier]

what?

[worn ocean]

what

[gloomy cosmos]

I think your talking about the early pessima coupe

[chrome tapir]

wait hild on

im dumb scuse me

it is the early pessima

[gloomy cosmos]

It's alr

[pure parrot]

Finally someone else who uses kw for power

[lean glacier]

I don´t like using kw as power since I´m used to ps/hp but idk where I can change that in automation. (sorry)

[spring needle]

It's in the measurements section in settings I'm pretty sure

I think you have to be in the main menu to change it too

[lean glacier]

bumper is ready

[grim cliff]

😄

[warm cairn]

bumper looks good but the headlights still look a bit big..?

might be the angle

hard to get a good image of what i mean but the inner bezel isnt just typically a solid block of plastic
Miata shrouds kinda form around the round headlamp, which i believe you could do on your headlights to make them look less monolithic

form the black upper bit here to be less flat essentially

[grim cliff]

To be fair, those cars have squarish pop-up headlights.

[warm cairn]

yeah but its absolutely gargantuan on the altair

[lean glacier]

I’ve already scaled the headlights down a bit after taking the picture.

I’ll also change this like that because how it is now it’s dangerous for pedestrians and would fit round headlights better.

I also made them a bit rounded like you said.

[river vector]

that's cool

[lean glacier]

The popup headlights are almost ready now. The textures will get some improvements and the panel gaps too.

[grim cliff]

Yay!

[gloomy cosmos]

Are the popups able to be put on the mr covet body in the parts selector?

[lean glacier]

I plan to make them useable with all covet bodys that use the dafault slot for the headlights

[gloomy cosmos]

Ahh, alr 👍

[vale wagon]

dudes just happy to be there

[lean glacier]

This is how the interior looks like atm. I maybe will add new gauges and an altair lettering to the dashboard (similar to the miramar (it has one right?)).
Also a 6 speed manual transmission will be added if that makes sense(I still have to check if it makes sense for that type of car in that time)

[rugged condor]

make like a uhhh longer version of that front bumper maybe like a usdm spec idk

[clever hedge]

a close ratio 6 speed manual wouldnt be so bad

keeps the rpms in power band all the time

[gloomy cosmos]

Maybe a close ratio 6 speed could be for the Homologation rally car (The Homologation Rally trim is still planned right)

[violet heron]

I'm wondering...
Will there be an "Initial D" config / skin for that pop-up version?

I had to ask since I feel like someone was gonna ask at some point with the fact it does kinda look like an AE86.

[lean glacier]

There is a mod for a Toyota ae86 (it’s called Hirochi Noita) so I won’t make an initial d skin/config.

[violet heron]

Oh yeah...
I kinda forgot about that one since I don't think theres been too many updates about it recently.

(Just looked and wow, I guess there have been.)

[lean glacier]

I looked a few minutes ago. I also didn’t know he based it on the covet.

[violet heron]

I mean, at the moment, the Covet is the closest thing to an AE86.

[chrome tapir]

shitbox and japanese

both match :3

[rugged condor]

honestly the 200bx is closer

both are RWD I4 Shitboxes with Pop-Ups

ik its based off the 240sx but whatever

[lean glacier]

But the covet is a really good car to use as a base.

Probably better than the 200bx

[chrome tapir]

yeah

since its been updated a lot more

the 200bx still has garbo glowmaps and stuff for example

[rugged condor]

I was talking about what is closer to a AE86 but yeah you are right

[rugged condor]

200bx needs a remaster deadass

[grim cliff]

sedan too or only coupe?

for covet

[teal quarry]

Bro is gonna spawn some AE86 vibes

[lean glacier]

I’ve used the 200bx lights as a base for the pop up headlights but they are completely reworked and improved. And they use covet glowmaps now.

[lean glacier]

did some work to the 2.5l engine (again, but i´ll leave it like this). Now I´ll make a 6 speed transmission so the rpms stay in the powerband. (they kinda do already, but more gears=better)

[spring needle]

Idk if a 2.5L would rev to 8k... More like 6.5-7k especially if it's supposed to be an engine from a truck

[lean glacier]

it´s not supposed to be an engine from a truck

[spring needle]

Alright, wasn't sure since small trucks usually have bigger displacement engines like that

[lean glacier]

To get 8k rpm you have to use the evolution ecu, the stock ecu has the rev limiter at 6500rpm.

[spring needle]

Ah ok

[tepid python]

Compact 200bx :P

[clever hedge]

what is the 2.5 inspired from, by the way?

honda K24's and such maybe?

[chrome tapir]

Altair :3

[tulip ledge]

i realy cant wait how did you get beta tester?

[vale wagon]

being a trusted person

generally how it works

mod creators choose people they value the opinions of and trust enough to know they wont leak it

[tulip ledge]

oh okay thanks

[chrome tapir]

helping on the mmod also im good at finding bugs :p

[chrome tapir]

i have like 4 betas in my hands rn and im actively working on all, never leaked a mod and never will

unless you paypal me 6 trillion dabloons

[violet heron]

https://tenor.com/view/100doubloons-doubloons-100-gif-22106222

[lean glacier]

6 trillion -100 left

[chrome tapir]

hmm didnt go through

oh well

[violet heron]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-celestial-toymaker-the-giggle-toymaker-alright-then-gif-16978854209434831329

[mild flare]

looks pretty, can't wait to give it a spin 👍

[chrome tapir]

it doesnt spin :3

drives very well tbh

understeer even on FWD is nearly not a thing

[lean glacier]

4wd + enough power, then steer to one side and clutch kick in first gear or 2nd.

[chrome tapir]

lol lemme try

[lean glacier]

This works for every car with 4wd, even for the Gavril d-Series

But you need lsd/ welded diff

[mild flare]

oh trust, i'll find a way.

[chrome tapir]

lol

[lean glacier]

I´ve made some screenshots and also added a lip spoiler.

[slate geyser]

Looks like a pre 200bx series. Maybe call it 100bx? lol

[chrome tapir]

wha

no

[lean glacier]

I won’t change the name

[chrome tapir]

Altair :3

tis very drifty with awd lol :>

[versed ledge]

I love it

[chrome tapir]

do you like the spoiler :>

its kinda brok but thats ma fault

[vale wagon]

what engines does it have again?

[tulip ledge]

i think its gonna have 1.5, 1.7 diesel, 2.0, 2.5, 1.6 diesel and 2 rotor

[white pendant]

when is this being released? i need this!

[gloomy cosmos]

I don't think LetsDrive has a exact release date

[chrome tapir]

bocksportation

altair is extremely powerful

this is all stock 2.0L with an ITB intake and it does it no sweat

the squish is the acceleration lol

[chrome tapir]

30th of february but i think it might be a bit later

mod is asically done tbh

slow wifi but something is coming

[tulip ledge]

how 30? poland is really interesting

[chrome tapir]

well that was the planned date

made like a month and a half ago

[versed ledge]

On this one , yes , it looks nice

[chrome tapir]

its a bit meh rn

it uses the interior plastic lol

i ne to fix that

[versed ledge]

Well , i thought it was carbon or sumthing lol

[chrome tapir]

more Bock pullin

[tulip ledge]

in poland it will be never relesed xd if its gonna be 30

[chrome tapir]

ye lol

[chrome tapir]

Selling nearly brand new Altair, 30000 euros, has 120 miles on it, never been abused, near perfect condition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwSmaRIKWYc :3

[gloomy cosmos]

I love Tsukuba Fruits Line Touge

[zealous harbor]

i'll take it for 30

[primal kernel]

I'll take it for 30.1

[zealous harbor]

$31

[primal kernel]

$31.01

[zealous harbor]

$31.02

[grim cliff]

34,9 $

[zealous harbor]

darn it i'm out of money

[primal kernel]

I ran out 25 dollars ago

[lean glacier]

In germany there’s also no 30th February, I just said that because some people where asking when release as a joke, so I said 30th February as a joke. It’ll release in early/ mid summer, but no promises

[lean glacier]

The 1.7l engine will be petrol. But maybe I’ll change it to a 1.6l engine.

[atomic plume]

mint

[lean glacier]

30th February was a joke, there’s no 30th February

[spice zephyr]

Hahahahahahahhaha

People keep forgetting it doesn't exist

[lean glacier]

Maybe it exists in some countries (idk)

[spice zephyr]

Nahh

We all use the Gregorian calender

Except for like Saudi Arabia or so

They use the Islamic one

But still

Islamic calender doesn't have February

[chrome tapir]

wait

im so stupid i just realised lmao

[chrome tapir]

sold

[smoky kayak]

Arent those popup headloght too big?

[chrome tapir]

nuh

[lean glacier]

I think I have to make the color of the foglights a bit whiter.
Almost looks like the blinker.

[solid siren]

chat is it possible to test

[clever hedge]

will you add a trueno/ibishu technica inspired front lip to that popup bumper

stock form it is nice but it looks like it'd fall short when lowered + aftermarket rims

[chrome tapir]

its like 10 ish cm from the ground stock

the engine will kinda touch the floor before the bumper does from what ive done

ill take a ss of the ricer config later

[clever hedge]

huh

engine sits that low?

[lean glacier]

It won’t be able to touch the ground, the oilpan is over the subframe and before the subframe touches the ground the suspension is on the bump stop.
The engine is only a little bit lower than on the normal covet.

[lean glacier]

Or did you make a new engine for it?

[chrome tapir]

no i jist accidentally moved the model down

[solar merlin]

cooking

[lean glacier]

👀

(no engine swap)

[solar merlin]

im good with the i4s lol

[lean glacier]

me too

[chrome tapir]

rotary is noice too

[solar merlin]

yeah fair but my GF is the rotary simp

[rugged condor]

put the t-series turbo in the the altair 😈

[lean glacier]

That´s exactly what I wanted to do

Also still fits with the stock hood

[rugged condor]

damn

i thought that was a new engine but it was just the sohc and dohc mixed together 😭

[lean glacier]

yes, sorry, forgot to hide it

[chrome tapir]

Kodak style screen :3

[velvet cedar]

This mod is amazing.

Clean work !

[clever hedge]

dont change the way hood opens if you are meaning that in this image

[lean glacier]

Don’t worry, the hood won’t change. I just added the turbocharger from the t-Series

[stray lintel]

It worries me how people dont realize that February 30th doesnt exist 😔

[jagged raptor]

Will there be a paid early access ?

[timid plank]

this gonna release simultaneously in 2025 dawg

[lean glacier]

No, there won’t be.

[lean glacier]

No, this year

[timid plank]

im jokin lol

[lean glacier]

It’ll release before gta VI releases for pc

[signal patrol]

Well I don't think there is a 30th for February months. So, basically release date is March 2nd?

[lean glacier]

I’ve said before that that was a joke because someone asked when relez as a joke.

The mod will release in summer.

**but no promises **

[stray lintel]

Beamcord users cant seem to figure out what a blatant joke is istg

[spice zephyr]

They're as sharp as a cueball

[stark edge]

Relez Morch Foerst!11!11!1!!!11

[grim cliff]

final version is going to be free

[lean glacier]

yes

[lean glacier]

got the rear widebody in game (bumper and trim still needs some improvement, the jbeam too.

(the mr covet here is no teaser, I´ve just compared it with the altair)

[bright patio]

yoooo

[gloomy cosmos]

That kinda looks like a design for a fastback MR Covet

[timid plank]

rear engine altair???????

jdm porsche 911

[warm cairn]

clean up these bodylines

[lean glacier]

I did, before the rear quarterpanel was just the wide part, but there where shading issues with that, so I’ve changed that so it’s the entire rear.
(In the new beta version it’s like that, so you can check)

[lean glacier]

@timid plank

No rear engine Altair

[timid plank]

Nooo

[clever hedge]

wouldnt even be possible

where u gonna put the engine at

[little dust]

the rear

[chrome tapir]

into the boot

pigon engin

[snow oracle]

Who needs the Rear seats anyway

[chrome tapir]

who needs the rear anyway

[zealous harbor]

who needs a car anyway

[dreamy birch]

sikk

[timid plank]

who needs ibishu anyway

[bright patio]

woah

[frigid niche]

Traitor

[gloomy cosmos]

The Ibishu Police will be at your doorstep soon for being a traitor

[timid plank]

IM JOIKING

ARHH

[dreamy heath]

Everyone, this mod is very smegsy!!!

[frozen mango]

cant wait for it to be released, this thing is so nice looking

[regal tinsel]

just realized those are the tails from kljp lol