[RELEASED] Cherrier Émoussé Rework

[versed marsh]

It still happens IRL, but it's usually the hatch that offers three pedals

Also there are some cases that the US doesn't get the manual, but Canada does

[ocean torrent]

Canada just wants to be different

[main gust]

How is bro using a Mac!!!!!

[versed marsh]

Wine :)

Also methinks I should adjust that PI sticker, B700 might be too much for a 230S

[main gust]

Wdym

[frigid sable]

It's linux?

[versed marsh]

https://winehq.org

[main gust]

Oh

[frigid sable]

Oh

[versed marsh]

It works on Macs too

[main gust]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-gif-26414884

[frigid sable]

Didn't know that

[main gust]

Thanks for that

Oops off topic

[versed marsh]

Back to Emoussé, what PI do y'all think a 230S sits at?

[hybrid briar]

?

[versed marsh]

230hp sports sedan, Forza Wiki says similar cars sit in the high-500s, low-600s

[hybrid briar]

Hmm

Just do that then

[versed marsh]

B 620 seems realistic

[brittle thunder]

Updates out btw I didn't notice

Lol

https://www.beamng.com/resources/cherrier-Émoussé.12156/

[hybrid briar]

Nice

I didn't know an update was coming.

[brittle thunder]

Mhm

[versed marsh]

Perhaps that B700 was overshooting a tad

[candid vapor]

Arsenic concept around the A720 imo

Well, you didn't want to do it. Portal is too lazy to give a crap about it

[zenith seal]

E 100 💀

SV x would be s1 easy

[slender mantle]

you guys arguing really makes me love this thread even more

i need some popcorn

[versed marsh]

Nah. Boom, B620

[brittle thunder]

The French resident would be like d class lol

[versed marsh]

D100 :trol

[hybrid briar]

?

[jade haven]

kinda way too bright

[fierce canyon]

Thats just an issue for you

Skill issue i must say

[hybrid briar]

You have highbeam on...NO WONDER IT'S BRIGHT

[jade haven]

i am not an expert but i dont think it should be like this

[hybrid briar]

How about go out and stay in front of a car with it's highbeam on?

[jade haven]

k

[fierce canyon]

Ty for blinding him
One less person capable of complaining :)

[jade haven]

k its as bright

so sorry for wasting yall time i guess

[pliant basalt]

D100 lol

[mossy sage]

Some cars are like that irl

You be at a red light and be blinded by a single car

[jade haven]

yes i just realized that

sometimes my brain doesnt brain

[mossy dagger]

This actually looks like jbeam error

[brittle thunder]

Theyre not that bad for me lol

[terse gale]

How do y'all add mod Vivace bumpers to emousse😭 I can't do itt

[versed marsh]

Ah yes, another Car_Killer quirk

[versed marsh]

Fixed it

(Jbeam if you want)

[pliant basalt]

I guess im gonna kill myself instead of moaning

[fierce canyon]

lmao

[pliant basalt]

(dont actually kill your self, everyone deserves to live)

[next thunder]

How about Modland leakers?

Or meshlap scammers demanding 100 bucks for a turd of a job?

This is gray territory now, my friends

[fierce canyon]

lets not be fantasizing about someone killing themselfs

[ocean torrent]

I’d rather fantasize about moaning

[pliant basalt]

Ion, what the actual hell

[ocean torrent]

If I had a choice between the 2 it’s a very obvious choice

[jade haven]

moan

[fierce canyon]

take your moaning sessions to game discussion im sure they would love it

[candid vapor]

YES

[brittle thunder]

What

I don't know what you mean

[brittle thunder]

Noo I can't blind drivers I mean thanks so much

[versed marsh]

If you wanna blind drivers a little sedan isn't it chief ;)

[brittle thunder]

It is when I add more lights

[versed marsh]

lifted D-Series intensifies

[brittle thunder]

You ain't seen nothing.

[fierce canyon]

mhm

i would do that as a joke but the amount of jbeam i would need to do is just too annoying

[brittle thunder]

https://youtu.be/BLqmUJ4wUwQ?si=Ypk1cztKEms8MatM lightbringer seeker truck

This one is true fear.

Anyway I need to sleep cuz I gotta be up at 5:30am for college (kill me)

Good ibishu miramimir

[fierce canyon]

gn

[brittle thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/mimir-the-piterroles-gif-22679697

[fierce canyon]

wait 5 hours of sleep

im not mathmentics but that aint good

[brittle thunder]

You wanna know what else isn't good

First time I've slept this week will be now

:)

[fierce canyon]

well

gn

sleep well

[brittle thunder]

You should sleep too

[fierce canyon]

i was about to was just finishing something off

[brittle thunder]

Portal being responsible what

Anyway gn fr

[fierce canyon]

gn

[versed marsh]

Night

[fierce canyon]

a

[brittle thunder]

h

[versed marsh]

Some more configs if y'all want (130 manual, 150d DCT, 160 DCT, 190Sd/230S manual, return of the narrowbody 270S, in manual and DCT)

[dark quail]

woah been a while and now it’s released

[pliant basalt]

you want me to kill my self

It just says hi lol

[versed marsh]

Modland leakers deserve to be rewarded.

Most of their leaks are of garbage "paid" mods whose authors charge far too much per month for.

[real igloo]

no

[versed marsh]

Oh, I didn't mean leakers of mods like your Autobuggy

I meant those who leak mods from the likes of Kenemation and Spooling

[real igloo]

I still don't support it

and it's not called autobuggy

[versed marsh]

Yeah I only called it such as a bit of a contraction mainly

[hybrid briar]

Wrong + wrong =/= Right

[versed marsh]

Honestly I feel like it's kinda warped morals I'm showing here

It's just a bit of an outward manifestation of the fact that I don't see them as worth even a cent, due to blatant quality issues

[versed marsh]

With the Émoussé back we can probably call the Cherrier FCV a fully completed family of vehicles

[brittle thunder]

You need to add the tograc

[plucky token]

its behind the emousse

[brittle thunder]

In my defence I looked at it when I just woke up

[plucky token]

all good

[versed marsh]

Part of me wants to make a clutched CVT (based on that of the Aurata)

[next thunder]

I think that is a good sentiment for life

[zenith seal]

You forgor thé dynamique

[candid vapor]

No I wanna kill myself

[brittle thunder]

Let's not.

Not in this server.

[terse gale]

How does bot allow this and not swearing like Jesus

[hybrid briar]

What the hell is going on

[candid vapor]

Shados, any chance you could make a performance electric version? Or is that not possible

[brittle thunder]

I could, but its not worth it.

All the parts are there to do it yourself.

[terse gale]

Yeah making a few custom configs isn’t hard. You can even put them in a pack on the repo after if shados is ok with it

[brittle thunder]

Idc about people making configs or mods for it lol.

[terse gale]

Yeah i know but… idk im blabbering it’s almost 2am im a little tired

[brittle thunder]

Go to sleep

[terse gale]

You’re not my mother 😤 nah I prolly will soon

[zenith seal]

Hey @brittle thunder On your channel you say you don’t want your content shown on other’s channels, does that mean mods or just parts from your videos, because I’d like to make something with the émoussé

[brittle thunder]

My videos.

Lol

Why would I stop my mods being shown, that's stupid.

I like my videos to stay on my channel.

If someone tries to reupload my content they'll be hit with a strike instantly lol.

[terse gale]

Have you dealt with having to do that before? (Random question)

[brittle thunder]

Oh yes

A simple comment is enough to scare most people, but I've issued about 5 strikes

2 to the same channel (which is now gone cuz they stole my friends content too)

[zenith seal]

Ok cool I understand thanks

[zenith seal]

Bro reuploading is a huge problem, I saw this tiny channel reuploading crash booms vids, the number plates and watermark were still there lol

[fierce canyon]

I am
Go sleep

[zenith seal]

You’ve now been told

Go to sleep

[jade haven]

no

[zenith seal]

🛌

Now

[brittle thunder]

She isn't lying cuz she's a woman don't cross her

[jade haven]

n o

[zenith seal]

N O W

[terse gale]

No bueno

[brittle thunder]

Take your therapy session elsewhere pls

[zenith seal]

hiss

Ok

[jade haven]

no

what i dont have therapy sessions

[zenith seal]

🍳

[jade haven]

i am very mentally stable

[zenith seal]

Oh hey a civilian airliner

[brittle thunder]

Take this elsewhere pls

[terse gale]

Sorry for the off topic 👍 kinda a lil my fault

[jade haven]

ok bye

[brittle thunder]

Nah its fine

[zenith seal]

Yea sorry, not very good at on topic lol, I’ll try not to let it happen again

[jade haven]

i am sorry too

[plucky token]

LOCK IT

[versed marsh]

tfw you try to add Apple's Sierra Blue using the official color swatch from the 13 Pro configurator, only for it to show up as borderline white ingame

[versed marsh]

Not a half-bad colorway then, I guess

[versed marsh]

I like how the Émoussé has its own design too

[versed marsh]

Little issue

North American 230S configs still have 5,000 rpm diesel tachs

I'll send in a fix rq

Fixed: 5,000 rpm tachometer (replaced by 8,000)

[jade kestrel]

is it on the repo, and what is it called?

[brittle thunder]

Bro do you just wanna do the mod for us

Its nice seeing people fixing things themselves for me

Lol

[versed marsh]

Hehehe

I'm not that skilled

[hybrid briar]

Neither do I

[versed marsh]

I'm plain garbage at Blender

[hybrid briar]

Same.

[versed marsh]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/vivace-gti-kits.26592/

Made an actual Émoussé 130 (US) (M)

Manual, but at the time it had just Comfort mode

Might do a 130 (Rental), which makes use of the CVT and rental modes tho

[dark quail]

pls i thought u were helping with the mod 😭

[hybrid briar]

I already fix that man

[versed marsh]

I did

[dark quail]

explodes

bro is gonna fix the whole mod

[versed marsh]

I weirdly enjoy the CVT econobox sedan versions

[versed marsh]

Ouch.

(let's just call it a 95d with a livery)

[fathom tulip]

genuinely don’t understand how some people let their brand new cars get this bad in such a short amount of time

[mossy sage]

Fr

[frigid sable]

Ze french apparently.

[versed marsh]

Intermediate rental: 5 passengers, 3 bags, Cherrier Émoussé or similar

[lean panther]

h

[zenith seal]

How much for a day?

[versed marsh]

$86/day ($120/day including taxes and whatnot)

[zenith seal]

My wallet rn:
😭

[zenith seal]

That’s expensive but, fair

Seems a nice enough car

[versed marsh]

It has a 130hp 1.8L I4 engine, CVT, and always-on Comfort ESC.

[zenith seal]

Ok I take it back, cvt vivace makes me want to vomit my insides out

I know it’s an émoussé

[versed marsh]

Should be alright for driving around cities though

I'm surprised it wasn't the ESC that turned you off

[zenith seal]

I know but that wouldn’t be very profitable for the owner whose renting it, because cvt’s break and are expensive to fix, and people who drive rental might not be so nice on the car

[versed marsh]

Good news though: the "or similar" part means you can get a different car, here's a slightly older Hirochi Sunburst you can rent for slightly cheaper ($80/day or $110/day with taxes) with a DCT

[zenith seal]

I’d take that one tbh, bc it would be more reliable and it costs less, honestly I prefer the sunburst but don’t tell shados

But on topic, torgrac better

[mossy dagger]

Sunburst is worse than Emoussa change my mind

[zenith seal]

You’re wrong

Simple

Mind changed

[mossy dagger]

I'm not

Just check the interior spec

[zenith seal]

Wait, omg did you make the rayonner?

[mossy dagger]

Yeah

[zenith seal]

Nice mods!

[mossy dagger]

Thanks

[mossy dagger]

Sunburst is smaller, interior is lacking tech wise in comparison to similar trim Vivace, the styling is dated

[zenith seal]

Still lols good, they both have their pluses, I don’t like the Bose specs but the sport ones are cool but yea, émoussé is better for screenshots

[mossy dagger]

Yeah, I mean Sunburst generally has more power, has foglights unlike Emousse

[lean panther]

foglights arent reallly useful if your light is bright already

[mossy dagger]

True

Also no AWD option on Emousse

[zenith seal]

Some bumpers have that little thing at the bottom that’s like a light

[mossy dagger]

thats just DRL

DLR

or DRL

idk

[zenith seal]

Yea I kinda thought that lol

Pessima eudm better than both

[lean panther]

monica eldy:

[zenith seal]

No

Monica Eldy has nothing over my beloved

[versed marsh]

There is, you just have to equip the wide track suspension

[zenith seal]

I was gonna say, émoussé arsenic fwd?

[mossy dagger]

I am meaning factory

[versed marsh]

True

[brittle thunder]

Why would it have awd factory.

Its a cheap sedan.

Lol.

[versed marsh]

In general, AWD is something most C-sedans still don't offer

[hybrid briar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zenith seal]

That honestly looks good

I like the émoussé tho

[mossy sage]

I like the emousse too even tho I havnt gotten a chance to drive it yet

[versed marsh]

I still wonder why the unpainted bumper is based on the E one rather than the regular

[mossy sage]

Because someone got into a crash in a E model and he gotten a new front bumper and hasn't painted it yet

[zenith seal]

Weird

[hybrid briar]

Even I don't know.

[brittle thunder]

Looks cheaper idk

I personally like it

[zenith seal]

Bro just said electric car bumpers look cheap lmao

[versed marsh]

Made an alternate front clip for the E, similar to the "cheaper" unpainted unit (left)

I just wanna fix the "paintedness" of the bottom grille

[versed marsh]

Alternate EV bumper done. It now lacks the Techie McGadget-ness of the standard EV bumper, feel free to include it if desired :)

[terse gale]

that could be cool new eliminator car

[brittle thunder]

I said the cherrier one does

[brittle thunder]

Also, you should release any of these sorts of parts separately on the repo. Others might be interested in it

[versed marsh]

Perhaps I could have it integrated into the USDM expansion or something

EV regular, EV alt, ICE regular, unpainted (for comparison)

[hybrid briar]

Hmm

[versed marsh]

North American EVs could use the alt bumper

[hybrid briar]

Yeah maybe

[zenith seal]

EVs are kinda mid

[zenith seal]

Looking forward to the hestia

[versed marsh]

Same

[versed marsh]

X 999 meta go brrrrrrr

[jade haven]

i love those

[whole igloo]

imagine putting scintilla wheels on a tograc, curbs are hungry

[azure raptor]

Brand new is an overstatement

Older models of cars (usually 2016-2017-2018 etc) in those years can easily be abused beyond badly

[azure raptor]

What mod is that front end from

[zenith seal]

Vivace sv series

[azure raptor]

Thanks

[zenith seal]

Np

[iron edge]

why is mine still like this

i literally reinstalled all the 2 mods

[wraith crane]

clear cache

[iron edge]

its still liek that

[turbid badger]

Handling wise, Sunburst are better

[wraith crane]

me when emousse e hillclimb

[dark quail]

guys are there any wagon cherrier mods

[versed marsh]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/cherrier-vivace-tograc-wagon.23195/

[dark quail]

I already downloaded it

tysm for the help though

there was another mod that wasn’t working

[azure raptor]

I wish that mod enlarged the window as well

I found a Reddit post but i don't think it was ever finished

WBIMP wagon looked good

[versed marsh]

That's what became the WBIMP one AFAIK

[azure raptor]

Reddit post was by Waboll

[brittle thunder]

That's nice but this is the emousse thread...

[azure raptor]

Oops

Mb

[versed marsh]

Under the cover of night...

[zenith seal]

Crime car lmao

[versed marsh]

(bonus points if you can guess the location)

[zenith seal]

Wcusa?

[versed marsh]

It's a map port from another game :)

[zenith seal]

Oook, I don’t know then, my guess would be the gta map but I’m not sure

[versed marsh]

Toad's Turnpike, Mario Kart 8

It's by the Toad Services building (right)

[zenith seal]

How 😭

[versed marsh]

Turns out it makes for nice parking lot shots, like the Émoussé

[zenith seal]

Yea, on topic, the file for the vivace facelift wasn’t working but I’ll check today whether the front end goes on the émoussé if it works

[versed marsh]

Regardless, the gravel version is an absolute monster

[zenith seal]

It’s scawwwy

[versed marsh]

It's actually surprisingly driver-friendly

[versed marsh]

Oh-kay, noticed a bug

The trunk pops open mid-rally, and the rally wing is prone to falling off

[hybrid briar]

I can never get the trunk to pop on myside

For some reason

While rallying

[versed marsh]

It seems to bug the Arsenic trunk on rally builds

[fierce canyon]

that has the same jbeam as the normal trunk

[versed marsh]

Oh wait, perhaps it was because I was using the Rapide rally setup (931hp)

[fierce canyon]

the wing breaks the trunk at like 150mph

well people say its 130-140 but i had to get up way past whats normal to get any sort of damage

[versed marsh]

Yeah it feels more like a skill issue on my end now that I switched from the Rapide setup to the vanilla rally one

[fierce canyon]

i mean its a bit of an issue simply because of a rubbish joke

i could fix the wing breaking the trunk easily if i wanted to

[versed marsh]

How'd this happen?

[versed marsh]

Practical driving course, anyone?

[pliant basalt]

Me

[zenith seal]

No I just steal a car and learn from there

Looks very nice tho

[brittle thunder]

You should really make a pack of any stuff you've done lol.

Besides separating the interior n such, I've got that in the emousse atm. Just need to do a few other things but I have a case of being lazy so I'll do it later on in the week lol.

[versed marsh]

Oh, that wasn't my thing

I just downloaded a mod for a pack of driving school skins

[brittle thunder]

Oh did someone else make one?

Ah.

[versed marsh]

This
https://www.beamng.com/resources/driving-school-skin-pack.24358/

[brittle thunder]

I forget some vivace skins work on the emousse lol.

I'm smart.

[plucky token]

vice versa aswell lmao

especially ik the racing skins and stuff says its emousse only, but it fits the vivace aswell

[versed marsh]

A dash of Natural Titanium makes this thing look very premium ngl

[mellow wyvern]

not roboto please

[versed marsh]

I didn't make the skin

Also, the old Roboto got rereleased as a typeface called Franko

[versed marsh]

Ngl with the Rapide pack and two-tone Vivace S rims the Émoussé vaguely reminds me of a Tesla

Like, a smaller Plaid with an actual trunk

[pliant basalt]

How do you get a color like that, its honestly so good

[versed marsh]

I have a custom info file with such colors

Vert Laser, thoughts?

[hardy widget]

gyatt

[versed marsh]

I see yours and raise mine

Full Tograc schnoz too

[hardy widget]

lower trim

[ocean torrent]

The Tograc looks funky

Combined with the Émoussé it’s just kinda neat

[versed marsh]

We just inadvertently built coupé SUVs

[hardy widget]

yea

it looks weird, but look good as well

now i need more cherrier base rims

the bruckell bastion base rims look good in the cherrier

[versed marsh]

Except they have traditional trunks. By the way, thoughts on the color I posted?

The green one

[hardy widget]

where?

[versed marsh]

This

[hardy widget]

looks good
is it matte green color?

[versed marsh]

Well, more of metallic, but the garage seems to emphasize more of a matte finish

[hardy widget]

i see

it's good
looks like salted egg

[lean panther]

same energy

[lean panther]

how do you get these rear bumper cladding tho

[tacit siren]

This would look so good as a 4 door coupe

Mercedes AMG 4 door style

[zenith seal]

That looks lovely 🤩

I desperately want a torgrac thingy to release bc it is my preferred fcv

[frigid sable]

looks like the BMW X6

[whole igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-roll-gif-13520871689673394469

[pliant basalt]

alr thanks!

[hardy widget]

hello

[zenith seal]

Give me émoussé cross plz 🥹

[zenith seal]

Oh my giddy aunt thank you

[hardy widget]

there are many of config i made

do you want all of them or just one?

[zenith seal]

Just one thanks :)

[hardy widget]

ok

if im not wrong
the config contain some MPN mod

make sure you have that mod

[zenith seal]

Ok cool

[fiery willow]

How tf u get tograc sedan

[ocean torrent]

The changed the vivace parts to tograc parts

[fiery willow]

How do i do that

[fiery willow]

Does that come with the mod or do i need to modify the tograc

[ocean torrent]

Just replace the vivace parts on the emouesse with the tograc parks

[fiery willow]

Ok

[fiery willow]

Do i need to download some sort mod to do that

Minus the emouesse mod

Also why do i need 40 more emouesse cars when i only use 1 of them

[ocean torrent]

No

[fiery willow]

Ok 👍

[forest dock]

would look so good as a pickup

[fierce canyon]

what

[tranquil oriole]

Mfw the millionth togremousse

[zenith seal]

Ikr, shados legit said it’s not part of lore,won’t happen lmao

[brittle thunder]

It wouldn't really make sense in the lore lol. At most it'd be a concept which would probably also not take off.

[zenith seal]

Fair, like arsenic

I got some screenshots cooking, I’ll post them later

[hardy widget]

if it take a similiar lore from the Tata Curvv
will it make any sense?

[hardy widget]

like this

[brittle thunder]

I don't really want to make the tograc stuff period. It's not worth it.

[hybrid briar]

Even that have a better roof line in the back.

[tacit siren]

Omg the back looks like an electric Mercedes sedan

[tacit siren]

What’s the next plan now that this is released? Taking a break I assume but do you have any other mods in the making?

[brittle thunder]

Focus on my map and my movie. College work too.

[tacit siren]

Nice

[versed marsh]

Ready for medallions.

[tacit siren]

Can’t wait to get home this weekend to drive this in beam

[mossy dagger]

Good

Might be unpopular opinion here but sedan tograc is really last thing we need

Put plastic flares on etk 800 sedan and call it a day

Instead of making abominations like this

💯

[brittle thunder]

Tograc just wouldn't make sense

The tograc was made to be an suv or crossover or whatever it is

Not a sedan

[whole magnet]

I mean

There could be a limited edition off-road sedan

[tacit siren]

I mean the ETK plastic trim didn’t come as a sedan until someone made the mod for it tbf

[brittle thunder]

Then it would just use the front it does.

It wouldn't use the tograc stuff.

[tropic echo]

Actually it isn't a mod. You can just put all plastic cladding on the Sedan and call it a day

[jade haven]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-spray-angry-korean-man-sus-gif-20949209

[tacit siren]

Pretty sure there isn’t quarter parts for the sedan only the skirts, bumpers and front fenders

[tropic echo]

That's on safe mode. I just changed the boby from a XC wagon to sedan

[tacit siren]

I never use safe mode but I’m probably wrong lol it’s not a big deal though

Just thought it was part of a mod mb

[versed marsh]

Did someone say "production car"?

[turbid badger]

I thnk we need a more appropriate wing for the Arsenic ones

[versed marsh]

In fairness, it doesn't look like a high-speed shoe

[hybrid briar]

Why is your reflector red?

[wicked quarry]

the tograc front would probably look good on the ute mod's body, but that one's quality kind of bothers me the more i look at it.

[wraith crane]

well
the skin fits on the wagon too
i wouldve added the ute but imo its kinda.. ehhh??

actually lemme retake that it looks bad

okay thats better

[versed marsh]

Idk

[hybrid briar]

Something wrong with your file

[plucky token]

cherrietta

[versed marsh]

Probably should clear Vivace cache and try again

[hybrid briar]

It should be yellow

[plucky forum]

im feelin this one

[quasi mica]

i forgot which mod those resized and rebadged scintilla wheels are from

[quasi mica]

oh right, arsenic werks

[versed marsh]

Got bored of Titanium a little too fast

[zenith seal]

Émoussé my beloved

[surreal ridge]

A45s/CLA conversion. Not the best fit

[terse gale]

thats more like cla45 conversion

[terse gale]

ehm, sedan a class exist

[terse gale]

well, they look same

[terse gale]

y sure about headlight

I mean they dont look the same, but they have minor changes

[azure raptor]

Apart from headlights and rear end, I don't see major differences in style

[surreal ridge]

True. standard body shows more a45.

[turbid badger]

I hate when the modeller didn't bother to change the headlights as well

[fathom tulip]

yeah nah he didn’t

zoom in on that picture, you can literally see into the eng bay

[pliant basalt]

French car + french map

[gusty nest]

What mod is it for that front end? it looks really good

[nova marten]

i think that's photoshop

[gusty nest]

Don’t think so i mean it’s got missing parts around the headlights? Maybe your right idk

[ocean torrent]

It’s not photoshop
It’s in other images

[fathom tulip]

also wrong

wait

nvm

thought "other images" was a program

[ocean torrent]

Bruh

[fathom tulip]

i read it as after images

sorry lol

[surreal ridge]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/vivace-a45s-kits.26120/

[gusty nest]

Cool thank you!

[surreal ridge]

Np

[raven stag]

this is way better than regular version, your epic @brittle thunder

[jade haven]

yo nice invisible steering wheel

[raven stag]

ty

i have a bug

[jade haven]

why is it invisible tho

[raven stag]

idk

its bugged i prob downloaded smth

now i cant get it back

so bye wheel

:c

[fierce canyon]

Wha

[ocean torrent]

That’s not even the Émoussé

[raven stag]

it is

its a version of it

wagon

[fierce canyon]

I worked on the mod
Its not

[ocean torrent]

That’s a separate mod

[brittle thunder]

Yeah I'd like BS for 500

Youre just finding a reason to go off topic.

This is the cherrier wagon.

The emousse is not and will not be a wagon.

[pliant basalt]

Interesting

[brittle thunder]

That would literally just be a vivace wagon

[fierce canyon]

the tarmini bois

[short fjord]

The ETK looks beautiful

[brittle thunder]

Fr

[short fjord]

The Émoussé looks pretty also

[terse gale]

2 best sedans in game on one screen

[pliant basalt]

I took an emousse and put a wagony thing on art 😂

Thats an emmousse wagon and you cant chamge my mind 😅

[brittle thunder]

Car killer took a vivace and put a sedan body on it, still a vivace overall

[fierce canyon]

all i remember was ck unknowingly causing us hours of pain and suffering

weird how different people remember different things

[versed marsh]

Not an Émoussé.

Orange: Émoussé
Blue: Vivace wagon

[vital wolf]

how did you get rid of the titanium trim?

[hardy widget]

random things i do

[turbid badger]

Donk

[hardy widget]

jir ada lu

[zenith seal]

Etk is nice, but the émoussé is just nostalgic

[azure raptor]

Will that 900 variant make it to the final mod?

[fierce canyon]

That config wont
Just something i made for fun

[vapid badge]

tragic

[azure raptor]

I see, but does it include parts that will be in the 900 or is it all custom made by you

Example the bumpers and the aero parts

[fierce canyon]

Thats all from the 900
I didnt make those
Although i might make a more extreme aero kit if i get back into modding

[cedar jetty]

can someone send me the link to this mod

[ocean torrent]

Search up “emousse” in the repo

[cedar jetty]

ohh ok thanks

[versed marsh]

https://beamng.com/resources/12156

[whole igloo]

Why does the race emmousse seem like it handles better than the vivace? Did you change the handling or am I going nuts?

[wraith crane]

probably weight distribution

[dire geyser]

literally what does this have to do with the thread

[lean panther]

nothing

[terse gale]

Why 😞 Roblox is life 🌱 , Roblox is love 💕 no but seriously why did you post that, it’s not even funny

Neither am I but still

[jade haven]

they just want to find a reason to go off topic

[lean panther]

i already knew its not funny lol

just posting it for no exact reason

[brittle thunder]

No idea because underneath it literally is a vivace lol

Also you're not funny. Keep this out of my thread.

[lean panther]

sorry mate

[brittle thunder]

@surreal ridgeYou can remove the french sign in the back under I think " Additional Flashers " or something like that. :)

[cyan wyvern]

Sheesh wheels name?

[turbid badger]

I think it's from KJLP

[frigid sable]

Yeah. It might be cuz it has what seems to be the hirochi logo on the rims

[azure raptor]

KLJP Hirochi SBR4 wheels, don't remember the specific name of them

[surreal ridge]

Hirochi sbr4 Olympia

[versed marsh]

Fitment looks nasty IMO

[fathom tulip]

Yea i never really understood why people like huge wheels with itty bitty tires on them

[versed marsh]

Company car? Likely so, a plain white EV model

[terse gale]

emousse e is kinda giving me citroën c elysee vibes

the e elysee is named I think

[floral girder]

@brittle thunder can I have the link to the mod?

[jade haven]

just search cherrier emousse on the repo

[brittle thunder]

^

[versed marsh]

https://beamng.com/resources/12156

[fiery willow]

Why do i need 40 more vivace cars?

[versed marsh]

Because yes, and sedan.

[versed marsh]

I've made a few changes

New I3 diesel sound (Aurata-derived)

(hood view)

Cheap interior (WBIMP port, for the 95d)

[pallid mortar]

How do you do that?

[hardy widget]

theres a tograc bumper on the emousse unibody

and i make a config out of that

[frigid sable]

Then you add what seems to be Gavril Bastion rims

[versed marsh]

Bruckell*

[terse gale]

oh!

[versed marsh]

Sounds better than current?

[terse gale]

yes

[versed marsh]

If people want a copy here

Why does part of me feel like a Cherrier FCV-based sedan would benefit from a rear similar to the GAC/Trumpchi Empow?

I feel like the line would be a nice bit of continuity with the hatch

[frigid sable]

I hate when I do that.

[versed marsh]

Eh, I hear quite a bit of Ibishu Sunburst too (remember, it's a Hirochi!)

[frigid sable]

Yea heard those too

I think it's cuz I think of Gavril vertex and assume that Gavril makes the Bastion.

[weak tusk]

diesel isnt tractor :(

[slender mantle]

this is the only thing keeping me from going to Fr*nce and eliminating all of the French people

why did it

ok

[frigid shell]

??

[slender mantle]

did i stutter?

@brittle thunder would understand

shados you hate the fr*nch too right?

[brittle thunder]

No I just hate everyone

[slender mantle]

okay

what about you @lusty onyx

you hate the fr*nch right

[lusty onyx]

No

But I surely don’t like idiots like you

[zenith seal]

Ouch. From a mod too

[slender mantle]

my fault jit

[zenith seal]

But hey, don’t hate on anyone, let’s keep it all inclusive and not toxic

[lusty onyx]

Oh I’m sorry, some random dude pinged me in mod thread and asked if I hate French people, what else would you expect?

[zenith seal]

This server is about appreciating everyone

[slender mantle]

banned for talking back

[zenith seal]

Dude chill it wasn’t serious

[zenith seal]

Exactly lmao

[slender mantle]

woah woah guys

let's

chill out

it was a joke

my bad

[zenith seal]

I don’t say anyone hates anyone, but that’s a harsh response I was only surprised bc you came down on him a little harsh, like he says it was a joke, no need to write in italics to make me feel like I’m being spoken down on

[slender mantle]

it's getting heated in the emousse thread

[zenith seal]

Hot, like- actually if I finish that I’m gonna be called a furry lmao

And a simp mind you

[slender mantle]

10-4

[frigid shell]

Very funny joke indeed

[turbid badger]

"it was a joke" in no context, yeah...

[pliant basalt]

Bros mad😭

[azure raptor]

In his defense, it wasn't a funny joke at all, just cringe

[brittle thunder]

Being pinged if you hate a group of people as a mod is irritating. So yes, he's annoyed.

[frigid sable]

Agrer

[pliant basalt]

Not for me, I don't get annoyed easily

(Unless someone says when release but thats another story)

[foggy tundra]

christ that was rude

[brittle thunder]

Yeah that's you. Not other people.

[pliant basalt]

Exactly

[pliant basalt]

Fr 😂

TAKE AWAY HIS MOD PERMS NOWW

(Im just joking please dont ban me)

[slender mantle]

sorry all i didn't mean to start an argument, meant to be harmless because i was bored but people seemed to take it poorly. all my fault :)

and i deserve it ghosty and shados deserve to hate me i don't mind it

it doesn't hurt my feelings

and i don't hate french people i just like joking about it

french bread is absolutely phenomenal

generally

[pliant basalt]

No you don't deserve anything! You deserve the best, let ghosty and shados hate you they don't know basic human respect 😅

[slender mantle]

not tryna get my forum access removed

should we get it back on topic though

i don't want to drag this out any more from here on out there's absolutely no point

[pliant basalt]

Lol

[brittle thunder]

Excuse me?

We're not the person who pinged people for no reason other than asking if we hate certain types of people.

This is my thread. I didn't want this in the first place.

I don't hate anyone. It was just a stupid and unneeded question.

[sick quest]

all blasco did was say "idiot"

anywaze

french sedan

[slender mantle]

aye moose aye (i think that's how you pronounce it?)

[fading dagger]

Are you saying that you hate me and all the other French people you know that we are not all the same

[pliant basalt]

I mean tbf he said he deserved it and I felt bad for him 😅

Plus you could ignore me :D

[pliant basalt]

Yeah, I'm take french class so my thoughts on the french have changed quite abit :)

[fading dagger]

I mean you a bit right a lot of French people are shitty person and selfish but it’s not all even though there’s a lot of dumb French

[pliant basalt]

and riots

No offense😅

[terse gale]

Yeah, still don’t think that’s a valid reason for him to say something like that. I mean, as a mod you should be relatively un-impulsive if you know what I mean, and saying that ‘I don’t like idiots like you’ wasn’t necessary, not good mod behaviour either. Anyway idk back on topic

[brittle thunder]

Agree to disagree.

[terse gale]

Yeah, let’s leave it at that

[pliant basalt]

I KNOW RIGHT!?

[real igloo]

read one message above yours

[terse gale]

Precisely, we’ve decided to end whatever the hell this was in the first place

[pliant basalt]

If you're a mod, you have to help people, not tell people that they are an idiot! Even though pinging goshtee and telling them if they hate a certain group of people is a bit rude, but telling people that they are a straight up idiot is just blatant disrespect, especially from a moderator!

But yeah

||change my mind||

back on topic

[fierce canyon]

you just didnt need to speak
the topic wouldve sorted itself out without you

[terse gale]

Exactly, legit agreed to disagree with shados and then he responds to the message before and clutters again 💀

Anyway Emousse

[real igloo]

emousse

[slender mantle]

that's a nice config

[azure raptor]

I love the widebody

Badass car overall

[hybrid briar]

Emosus

[rich linden]

just don't be an idiot

[pliant basalt]

Then dont be rude

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1129456385919307887.webp?size=48&name=shrug&quality=lossless

[rich linden]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-horowitz-tally-hall-speech-bubble-gif-26483661

[pliant basalt]

^^^^^^^^^

real

that's me right there

I don't really get the meme but that's me I guess 😂

[whole igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[wicked quarry]

man. this still has traction? come on, this happened this MORNING. the situation came and went.

for the love of all that's holy don't drag it into the next day

[waxen sedge]

i understand you really wanted to give your input, but out of respect for the mod author this is not a place to continue any off topic discussions. let's try and keep that in mind from now on and just discuss the topic of this thread here

[frigid sable]

real

[pliant basalt]

Alright thank you!

[jagged shell]

loveley mod this one is

[fiery willow]

Idk why we need 40 more sedans

[versed marsh]

If you don't like the Émoussé then don't download it. Simple.

[fiery willow]

I do like it

Its cause i only use 1 of them

[versed marsh]

Just don't like the sheer config amount?

Ah

[fiery willow]

Yea

I dont see the difference tbh

[versed marsh]

Cause well...

I made a bunch of extra configs for myself too

(150d DCT, 160 DCT, 130 manual, 190Sd manual, 230S manual, the NA-spec 270S from the old version, plus a manual of that)

[brittle thunder]

I make my mods to my standards majority of the time. Usually means it ends up having more configs than it probably should've had, but I don't really care too much about it. I like having a mod where it has alot more variety with skins, configs, etc where alot of mods don't actually have it.

Such as taxi configs, pace cars, fire department vehicles. Hell, I've never seen a EMS Response livery on a mod before. It's not for everything and that's fine, but its just the way I personally mod.

Trust me though, I did reign it in on the main ideas I liked. If I didn't you'd end up with several tuner style configs, donks, etc.

[fiery willow]

Well having 40 cars is fine as long as it doesnt affect my pc

I find the ems liveries cool tho

[brittle thunder]

Configs have an impact on performance?

[fiery willow]

Not sure tbh

[brittle thunder]

I don't think they do. I've never seen or heard about that before.

If a car effects performance its normally down to whether its high poly, lua or something else.

Never heard if configs are a factor either lol.

[fiery willow]

Also do you have any other mods?

[versed marsh]

Thumbnails do

[fiery willow]

What

Say you lying

[versed marsh]

Vanilla thumbnails are 500x281 for a reason

Larger thumbnails (1000x562 or larger) tend to load slower.

[fiery willow]

But do they like make much of a difference on your pc performance

[fierce canyon]

Thats just beam ui being rubbish

[fierce canyon]

No ofc not

[versed marsh]

Nope, just UI performance

[brittle thunder]

Public mods, skin packs.

I've made alot of private stuff for mainly improving my own skill and doing small passion projects.

[versed marsh]

Forgot to say this, but here

Vivace 160 (M), thumbnail size 500x281

Émoussé 160 (M), thumbnail size 1,000x562

[fiery willow]

Eleventeen

Tenteen

Twelveteen

[versed marsh]

The game tends to struggle with larger thumbnails (i.e. Émoussé in the example)

Mostly UI though, the game itself is OK

[fiery willow]

I pronounce Émoussè as Em-ou-se

Lol

[versed marsh]

AFAIK high-detail jbeam (i.e. bus handles) also affects it

[edgy heath]

Drop the link please

[night shore]

having to load tons of thumbnails (such as having more than 10 vehicle mods) does impact UI loading times but they run on a different thread so it doesn't literally impact game performance (your car is still driveable while it loads), it just makes you wait

[versed marsh]

https://beamng.com/resources/12156

[edgy heath]

thx

[versed marsh]

Can a mod just pin this?

[zenith seal]

Seeing the émoussé again is legendary, but it also makes me sad thinking of the stuff venzo was working on. I doubt he was jsz and they didn’t have much evidence to back the ban, tbh the rain thing looked sick, same with the mud. What a shame

Fercia monza was really hype for me too :(

[frigid sable]

How do you pronounce émoussé?
Is it Eh moose?
Eh mouse?
I genuinely don't know.
Eh moosay?

[zenith seal]

A moose

[versed marsh]

Eh-moose-eh AFAIK

[brittle thunder]

There was so much proof that venzo was JSZ

Venzo posted pictures of mods that JSZ never released

Alog with so much more

JSZ acted as if he never knew venzo too lol

[whole igloo]

Eh moose loose aboot this hoose, idk why what popped in my head

[versed marsh]

Zephyr being one?

[brittle thunder]

Nah. Some other bmw style facelifts for the etks.

[versed marsh]

Oh, right

[fiery willow]

E-mou-se

Exactly how i say it

[jade haven]

imous

[frigid sable]

iMouse.
Partnered with Apple.

[terse gale]

So sad to see his talent go to waste because he couldn’t just stick to making the mods instead of artificially inflating his threads or whatever the hell he thought he was doing

Additionally him using other people’s assets is frustrating because if he wasn’t so lazy I’m sure he could’ve made his own or at least asked for permission

[azure raptor]

For me it was bummer because i liked his Monza mod

[fiery willow]

Ihouse

Icar

Iapple

Igame

Idesk

Iwindow

Ifloor

Itrashcan

Ijuice

Ifood

Iglasses

Cant wait to see the future lol

[pliant basalt]

Ilife

your lives controlled by apple 😭

me personally, I like android over apple, it's better

[brittle thunder]

I don't really care what you prefer when this is the cherrier emousse thread.

[fiery willow]

Im a apple guy since i well grew up with apple

[fiery willow]

?

[brittle thunder]

This thread is for the emouse. Not for talking about apple or android.

[fiery willow]

Pls make Emouse suc

Suv*

[brittle thunder]

So the tograc.

[pliant basalt]

<3

So there will be any updates? Maybe like tograc update

for emmousse

[brittle thunder]

I've already said several times I won't be doing the tograc bumpers for the emousse. It makes no sense in the lore.

Anyone else can mod that in.

[pliant basalt]

alr

ill just make them configs

how doesn't it make sense in lore?

[brittle thunder]

The tograc is built to be a crossover and the emousse is pretty much a cheaper variant of the vivace

[whole igloo]

a sedan SUV...

[pliant basalt]

oh alr

[pliant basalt]

that's a crossover

isn't it

[brittle thunder]

The tograc is technically a crossover.

[azure raptor]

I don't even think sedan SUVs exist

The ""coupe"" SUVs have hatches

[tacit siren]

So do normal SUVs essentially

All “square back” SUVS have hatches

[ocean torrent]

Not entirely true
Some have barn doors or a split tailgate

[tacit siren]

Well yeah there’s that aspect but it is rare

[ocean torrent]

But yeah
A tograc Emousse wouldn’t make sense

[tacit siren]

It’s almost like the emousse should’ve come before the Tograc/ vivace for that to make sense

I don’t think there’s many brands that have a hatch variant/sedan variant and a cross over variant

All in one car

The Kia ceed is probably closest

There’s the wagon/ hatch and Xceed which is the crossover

[tropic echo]

Dacia Sandero/Logan/Stepway

[tacit siren]

Yeahh

[azure raptor]

Stepway isn't really a crossover, more so just a normal Sandero with plastic cladding

[tropic echo]

there's the Jogger, anyways

And the Duster

[azure raptor]

Isn't the Jogger a van

[whole igloo]

I though it was more of a wagon

[versed marsh]

cough

(yes, it has a trunk)

[terse gale]

Looks kinda nice ngl

[hardy widget]

nu uh

[ocean torrent]

I said wouldn’t make sense
Not that it would work/be possible

[jade haven]

it could be a concept that never made it to production like the arsenic

[brittle thunder]

No, because again, a suv sedan does not make sense, not in the emousse lore. The Arsenic actually made sense within the lore because the vivace arsenic exists. The emousse, as I've said before, is pretty much a cheaper version of the VIVACE. And so it shares parts with the vivace only, not the tograc.

[jade haven]

k

[azure raptor]

It's impressive how stuck up people are about ideas

Like bro just make it yourself

You have the parts to do it

[still pasture]

I came here to share my tograc emousse e

only to see that everyone else is already talking about something like it

oh well

[hybrid briar]

K

[whole igloo]

is for kar

[fiery willow]

price? i wanna buy

i will give u these 3 cars for it

[whole igloo]

fast vivace, ugly vivace, average vivace

[jade haven]

tograc aint ugly smh smh

[fiery willow]

Tograc is actually my favorite lol

[pliant basalt]

Tograc is a W

[still pasture]

I used to hate it, but i’ve grown to love it a lot lol

[versed marsh]

Wondering if this could be part of the lore

"While there wasn't enough demand for Cherrier themselves to build an Émoussé Arsenic, a company called Arsenic Customs popped up to alleviate enthusiasts' concerns. Buyer provides the Émoussé shell, Arsenic Customs massages it to become essentially a 1:1 S/S Arsenic, with the bonus of being able to customize car color, rims, and even state of tune prior to release."

(it's sorta like Innovative Motorsports and their RSR, but more in-depth, kinda like how some people strip parts from an E90/E92 M3 and modify them to fit the E91)

[brittle thunder]

It wouldn't happen. In the lore pretty much no one was interested in it, so even if a company wanted to, they'd make next to no sales on it.

[slender mantle]

maybe they could do "conversions" of 350Q's with the 5 cylinder

[brittle thunder]

No.

Its just a concept car, nothing more.

[versed marsh]

Sadly, real life mirrors it a lot

People who want a sports compact tend to want a hatchback, leaving sedan guys like me out

It feels like they want a hot hatch explicitly, rather than a sports compact in general, meaning that much of the segment has a cropped rear with a tailgate.

[azure raptor]

The new RS3 sedan is basically forgotten by now

It exists to be a prop basically

[slender mantle]

that's an insult to me, and a lot of other people. especially in america

[pliant basalt]

the only 5 cyl vehicle that I know of

[plucky forum]

😟

[versed marsh]

RS3 (Sedan/Sportback), TT RS (Coupé/Roadster, †), RS Q3 (Regular, Sportback) pretty much

[pliant basalt]

So out of all companies audi makes the most 5 cyl vehicles?

[turbid badger]

& Volvo but in the older days

[pliant basalt]

Ah ok

5 cyl cars are kind of rare now right?

[whole igloo]

Not really audi rs3 has one I believe

[pliant basalt]

Yeah

That's what I was saying a few messages ago lol

[next thunder]

Same for Mercedes, but also back in the day

[lone sonnet]

I tried to put a Lois image on the Cherrier and it crashed my game

[versed marsh]

Correct hand drive?

[fervent hamlet]

wrong hand drive

[versed marsh]

Eh, the Émoussé's default LHD, so having RHD is a bit of a variety thing

[turbid badger]

Is the RHD mod on repo?

[versed marsh]

Nah, private, but I can help if you want it

[terse gale]

Can you help me too I need it too

[versed marsh]

In a bit

[terse gale]

Alr and I can't look rn yoo

too*

[terse gale]

hi🫠

[hardy widget]

umm

[fiery willow]

High suspension = good

[versed marsh]

Unless you're in North America.

There is no RS3 Sportback, nor is there an RSQ3.

TT RS is dead too, meaning that the Sedan is the last I5 car there

Currently no RS 3 in Canada either, but rumor has it that 2025's refresh brings it back to the Kingdom to the North

Basically something technical with the 8Y didn't sit well with Transport Canada

[versed marsh]

How to: banner

[whole igloo]

There's a few yt tutorials on it

[versed marsh]

I can probably update this repo image with the new lights

How's this? (both plates nod something)

[woven thistle]

time to go find this on the forums

that’s the best look imo, with the plate on the trunk

[brittle thunder]

The beginning:

The end.

Kinda cool to look back on.

[nova marten]

what a journey

[fierce canyon]

fr
great 2 months of modding
have barely touched beam modding since then lol

[brittle thunder]

fr

[vapid badge]

ez

[versed marsh]

Beautiful indeed. Also thoughts on my new light pic?

[brittle thunder]

After nearly 2 months of not working on it, I'm working on career stuff for it now! Cargo boxes are added first off. The rear seat ones are inside the seat because that's how the vivace is for some odd reason, so whenever that's fixed, this will get fixed too lol.

[brittle thunder]

Adding the career mode stuff so the emousse should appear in the dealers, at least that's what I'm hoping for lmao

[brittle thunder]

should work alright lol

[whole igloo]

15k? I've not even got 5

[brittle thunder]

lol

the emousse is cheaper and rarer than the vivace

[versed marsh]

Back?!

Noice

[brittle thunder]

i just locked the thread cuz there was 0 progress lol

[dapper briar]

lol

[brittle thunder]

I'll look into some other bugs that might show up, so the release will be next week most likely.

Just adds career stuff pretty much.

[quasi carbon]

can i have the mod

[lost yarrow]

well, of course

[brittle thunder]

When it's released next week.

Like i literally just said.

[quasi carbon]

erm

lol

[quasi carbon]

didn't saw that

[brittle thunder]

It was above your message though.

[whole igloo]

[versed marsh]

Oh, wanna add the stuff I did too?

[brittle thunder]

Its been so long I've forgotten what you've done.

Most likely not.

Sorry lol

This was just getting career stuff out lol

Otherwise it'll just bug me.

[restive timber]

link for the mod?

[whole igloo]

again, it wouldn't kill you to look for it yourself https://www.beamng.com/resources/cherrier-Émoussé.12156/

[gusty nest]

question, will the pushbar be usable on the normal vivace in the future?

[brittle thunder]

Probably not, as using the nodemove feature was the easiest and quickest way to get the pushbar and lightbar on the car without having to move alot more.

[terse gale]

Link

[brittle thunder]

...

Look 3 messages above yours.

[terse gale]

wasn't sure if that was it I cant read that

[terse gale]

£200000! Jesus christ

I might need to sell 2x arm, 3x leg, 1x head and my phone, just to buy a wheel

[brittle thunder]

The emousse is cheaper than the vivace lol

I need to finish the career mode update...

[trail jolt]

Nice

[vast moss]

Call me stupid but what's the dufference between this and the vivance? Is it more luxurious or something?

[lost yarrow]

It's a sedan that's it

[brittle thunder]

Its a sedan. It's also cheaper than the vivace and doesn't have any higher end stuff. Doesn't have arsenic stuff either, though it was a concept config.

[brittle thunder]

New updates published

Will be out monday

[meager tusk]

yippee!

[hybrid briar]

I wonder what's new

[pearl wasp]

Nice pfp

[brittle thunder]

Not much really lol, career mode stuff, config tweaks, using the thumbnail size image instead of the large image size for thumbnails so they're not as large, new skin, and some other minor, less notable things

But I got distracted with other things so I've just not finished it for awhile lol

[hybrid briar]

Oh I see

[brittle thunder]

Yee

Just minor things really, and I'm just hoping on the career mode stuff working as it should lmao

Hopefully it does

[versed marsh]

Émoussé apparently means blunt in French

Seems I didn't get the memo.

[fiery willow]

Cherrier Blunt

[sick quest]

🚬

[terse gale]

🚬 Since when did this exist?????????

🍺 🚬 Average Finland experience

except vodka

[frigid sable]

kinda reminds me of the (FK2??) Civic with the middle exhaust and bit wing.
is it fwd?