[WIP Beta Released] WCUSA Street Circuit

[vernal nest]

Yeah, they just didn't fit the vibe

out of curiosity

if i were to make a trophy truck circuit

would we want it in the city streets or like a makeshift stadium in a parking lot

[celest owl]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1016052110435029073/1157471048317538425/image.gif?ex=6533186a&is=6520a36a&hm=991abbd7696e7772adec3fb24f847d5e1b78b258c66348509cb782cd5e8e94b6&

[half ruin]

thats a good question. Because it would be cool if it was like the Gavril stunt scenario but I would rather have it in a parking lot .

[vernal nest]

👍

trophy truck will be post-release

[half ruin]

that seems like a good idea

[vernal nest]

I'm make a forum post with the mod hopefully soon

[frosty bluff]

krazy, wanna race today?

[wintry trail]

city streets 100%

[simple sleet]

bUt wE aRe iN oNe

[vernal nest]

shush

[vernal nest]

not really

[lean valve]

me personally i want to see it on the streets similar to what they do at long beach, just slap some ramps down on the race track

[warm jay]

city streets adeliade style

[woeful bolt]

I second this

[wintry trail]

yeah this is what i want

[gloomy egret]

good boy.

I already know

[spice dragon]

release the map

[tough mist]

wait until its done

[spice dragon]

no

[tough mist]

why

[spice dragon]

hes been teasing this map

since like

july

[tough mist]

and?
thats progress

it doesnt mean its done

[spice dragon]

ive asked him for a file of the map so i can mess around in it

and he doesnt even give me that!

how rude.

[tough mist]

is this genuine or a joke

[spice dragon]

half joke

i DO want to try the map

but like

he bein stingy

[tough mist]

because its not done lmao

and he doesnt even trust you

[spice dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842427712870023168.webp?size=48&name=CatObserve&quality=lossless

[tough mist]

we all want to try the track but its not done yet so we just wait

[spice dragon]

very tragic

[vernal nest]

the funny part ia

you've had access to it for almost a month

so please

before you make me look like a poopyhead

actually look 😛

[spice dragon]

yeah i noticed

whoops

am i just trash or is this corner really hard to predict

[torn loom]

your just trash

[spice dragon]

this IS my first time on the track

[narrow vigil]

skill issue

[torn loom]

thats why you do a sight lap

very easy fix, look at the track

[spice dragon]

got it the second time around

(ignore the broken screen, old mod)

[cyan sigil]

I know its the F2

[narrow vigil]

yeah could do with some braking markers lol

[spice dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-muted-gif-23876902

ill record an attempt at a full lap

[cyan sigil]

Didnt know we had auto mod or something lol

[spice dragon]

new here?

[cyan sigil]

But eitherway, that track is very claustrophobic damn

No, just dont type much

[narrow vigil]

@vernal nest gimmi track i wanna complain about how every corner is designed to give brain damage :)

[cyan sigil]

Hahaha

[vernal nest]

kek

[frosty bluff]

im actually glad that youve changed a few corners there, the tight ones were complete chaos

especially with vehicles that arent mcmurtry level handling

[spice dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/730150071714185267.webp?size=48&name=smile~2&quality=lossless

[queen bone]

this will be on repo, right?

[vernal nest]

eventually

[wintry trail]

no it’s happening never

[spice dragon]

You’ll never get it!!!

[half ruin]

neva eva

[vernal nest]

forever? forever ever?

[plush kelp]

No. Nope. Nah. Never.

[rich ibex]

diamonds are forever

[simple sleet]

sure

[half ruin]

Add cameras around the race track for camera coolness

[spice dragon]

Add pedestrians to run over

[plush kelp]

Incredible suggestion

[queen bone]

group b but modern

[plush kelp]

💀

ford rs2000 sweating

[lean valve]

mustangs getting excited

[half ruin]

Audi S1 Quattro -> Audi RS6
Lancia Delta -> ???
Ford RS2000 -> Mustang
MG -> ??
Peugeot -> ??
BMW M1 ->??
Complete the list of the popular cars that crash that associates with the brand!

[vernal nest]

?????

[plush kelp]

For BMW now it's the m4

[vernal nest]

I fail to see why this is related to this mod

Feel free to take this elsewhere

[celest owl]

wrong channel man

[warm jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965043691125362758/1126582489377419274/ezgif.com-video-to-gif_2.gif

[latent hamlet]

What does the quattro have to do with the rs6?

Nothing

Rs6 is shitbox, s1 is great

[vernal nest]

What do these cars have to do with this mod?

Nothing

again

please move this conversation elsewhere

[queen bone]

wen relez- dies of death

[plush kelp]

+1

[vernal nest]

+1

lemme cook bro (the stove is off)

[plush kelp]

Burn the place down

[half ruin]

Let him cook man (He isn't in a kitchen)

[vernal nest]

I'm touching grass

[simple sleet]

you mean glass?

[vernal nest]

Grass

[frosty bluff]

tf is a grase, never heard of that
is it something outside?

[half ruin]

Is that some kinda anime girl or sum?

[simple sleet]

i think so

[celest owl]

nooooo dead chat we must revive

[tough mist]

no

it's a forum

it doesn't need reviving

[vernal nest]

skull

i'll pack it up and post it tonight i think

[wintry trail]

+120

[keen idol]

gangsta

[vernal nest]

Nevermind

extremely busy being distracted

[last wren]

.

(ignore. making sure i can stay locked in here)

[brittle shadow]

Oh it’s out? Or soon. Sorry text confusing. But time to screw around in land yachts

[willow vessel]

It's not the WCUSA Street Circuit that's the map, the real map is the friendships we made along the way

[warm jay]

https://tenor.com/view/toyota-corolla-gif-25397063

[vernal nest]

soon

[vernal nest]

omg

yes

[plush kelp]

+1 day

[last wren]

whats funny that most of the people here are hyping it up so much. but (but) they may be the people who only play it for one day and leave it in the repo not to be played.

(Not dissin the map at all

just some of the hypers)

[wintry trail]

nah im gonna race around this track a lot

and all the youtubers are gonna showcase it probably

[wintry trail]

especially if we get the trophy truck version

raced until destruction in a bone stock covet

[tough mist]

same

will run nascar around us

go nyooooom

[woeful bolt]

Doubt it tbh but maybe. Doesn’t seem very clickbaitable in the YouTube space

[wintry trail]

not those youtubers

they suck

talking about the good ones

like neil and failrace n stuff

[woeful bolt]

Maybe

Failrace doesn’t do mod showcase stuff anymore though

😦

At least not often

[wintry trail]

he still plays on mod tracks

time totime

god this keyboard sucks

[strange walrus]

street circuits with actual curbs and a proper layout is hours of fun in the right car. Like the Gen 6 cup car has a solid rear axle so the rear end starts jumping around on bumps, which means its fun and difficult to drive which also means hours of fun

[vernal nest]

a

which is why i'm kinda annoyed at myself for taking so long

And there's like one kerb i gotta fix

:lifeispain:

imma be honest this mod has kinda been on the back burner recently, i've been pretty busy with school and stuff and haven't really wanted to go straight to doing more modding after 8h of school, because, well, my brain is fried... but hopefully soon I can get it out

[fathom drum]

take your time!

[vernal nest]

oh don't worry

i am

this mod has been in development in some form or another since about a year ago

this forum post was created 6/26 when i was already about halfway done with the barriers

the first version of this came about in i believe 0.27 or 0.28

which was really not very well done

I plan to release this probably in the upcoming week

For real this time tho

Like bug me Saturday if i'm not posting stuff in here

and I plan to release a trophy truck layout hopefully in the holiday season

[fathom drum]

alright someone remind me to bug @vernal nest this saturday

[fathom drum]

the perfect christmas present

[vernal nest]

🎁

[wintry trail]

truck yeah

literally all i want is just a bunch of random ramps placed all over the place

[fathom drum]

are we allowed to drive a open wheeler over the ramps?

[wintry trail]

yes

[plush kelp]

Launch pads for open wheelers

[willow vessel]

I will start sending pictures of cool bugs and pinging you on Saturday then

[fathom drum]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-tiny-kitchen-sponge-bob-tiny-kitchen-burger-gif-25042540

[willow vessel]

Being isopod would be cool

You just kinda tuck up and roll away from people

[plush kelp]

Deep water pressure go hard

[simple sleet]

i wanna be an isopod that can be human

like

or a human-isopod

[willow vessel]

Lmao

I like the small squiggly ones moat

[simple sleet]

i used to call them "stellas"

for some reason

idk

[silk loom]

rolly polies

[plush kelp]

Imagine getting a blow gun and firing out a bunch of those little guys.

[willow vessel]

Pocket squigglies

[sacred ether]

Woodlice

[vernal nest]

why are we

[frosty bluff]

where are we

[vernal nest]

who are we

[willow vessel]

We aren't

[vernal nest]

true

[warm jay]

https://tenor.com/view/hsv-maloo-gts-drift-drifting-driving-hsv-gif-27205875

[frosty bluff]

we

[gloomy egret]

krazy

im gonna shower the cat in my pfp

for every

single

day

that i have to wait

for this map

(add 5 days for this)

:3

[vernal nest]

Dude that's wild

You know what's even more wild?

The fact that I was planning on releasing it this afternoon anyways 💀

[plush kelp]

Incredible

[wintry trail]

no you weren’t

[narrow vigil]

looks like a bit of monaco and a deformed leg

[wintry trail]

italy if it fell down the stairs

[vernal nest]

whoops

hold on

hold on a bit

ah I just realized I am a bozo

[plush kelp]

incredible

[vernal nest]

anyways here's my average speed over 1 lap

[woeful bolt]

About the same average lap speed as Monaco? I think?

(In an F3 car granted)

Whereas you’re in an F4

[vernal nest]

Yeah probably

[wintry trail]

make sure you secure all the sewer covers

[warm jay]

Honestly so hyped to send a v8 Supercar around

[queen bone]

this will have ai support right

and i can’t wait to crash into a barrier and then proceed to get mufasa’d by half of the ai racers

[torn loom]

looks really good man, you said something about a possible this weekend correct?

[vernal nest]

yes

[vernal nest]

haha no

probably not

[queen bone]

crap

[simple sleet]

huh

is it the afternoon yet

[vernal nest]

wait

patience

it probably won't be able to be approved until Monday

[simple sleet]

ah

[last wren]

so it is uploaded and WIP beta released?

but not approved yet?

[woeful bolt]

It takes weeks fyi. Especially with thanksgiving

Took my first mod 1.5 weeks to be approved

So I’d assume week minimum for you. If you’re lucky maybe less (unless it’s been approved before and you’re just waiting on an update approval)

[vernal nest]

I messed up by accidentially putting it under mods and liveries or whatever instead of maps and whatever

whatever, it'll sort itself out

[celest lance]

you should (if possible) make a beammp server with the track

if you can/want to

[wintry trail]

congrats?

[warm jay]

just make one yourself

[celest lance]

do you think i have the minimal required braincells to do such thing

[warm jay]

youtube

[wintry trail]

you need to download weird stuff to do it

not trustworthy

[celest lance]

^

[warm jay]

you dont cause ive got one myself

you jsut download the client and setup your server key, ports and stuff

[celest lance]

i think i tried doing that before and it didnt work

[woeful bolt]

I don’t have one myself because I can’t log in to my router but it doesn’t seem too difficult

Runs the same way you would run a Minecraft server

[wintry trail]

i tried setting up a server for me and my friend with mods and you needed to make an account on some sketchy website and download some software to get the server key

[warm jay]

not sure how it is for other country but you type your ip into your browser and use the password on your router

[wintry trail]

and thats for everyone involved

[warm jay]

what beammp?

[wintry trail]

you needed beammp and something else

let me find it

[woeful bolt]

Works the same here but because I’m renting my house and the router came with it I don’t want to have people from all over the world logging into internet that I don’t manage

[warm jay]

yeah fair enough

[wintry trail]

i could not find it

[warm jay]

99% sure you just need the beammp server client cause thats all ive got and it works

[warm jay]

https://beammp.com/

[wintry trail]

we tried that

[wintry trail]

i already have that

i’m talking about to make a server with mods for one friend

private

[warm jay]

yeah thats easy

its the same thing

[celest lance]

dont you need to download the server tho?

[wintry trail]

you need to host it on your pc

and stuff

[warm jay]

thats how servers work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXn_x3ijq0A&ab_channel=HighwayTrooper

[wintry trail]

needed a vpn

[vernal nest]

oh i can and most likely will

[wintry trail]

anyways

[vernal nest]

tomorrow™️ because i'm very tired

[warm jay]

your overthinking it man

[wintry trail]

google is

that’s what ogle wants

[celest lance]

W

[vernal nest]

I'll drop the server name in here

tomorrow

[celest lance]

ok

[warm jay]

so use the beammp site itself google is just batshit crazy

[warm jay]

tuffff

[vernal nest]

and i'm gonna ask for you all to not make it cry (it is a dell optiplex with a dual core pentium from 2012)

[celest lance]

just wondering do you have a possible time when the server will be up?

[vernal nest]

after 9:00 AM ET

probably

[celest lance]

oh word

[vernal nest]

i'll tell you when I wake up in the morning

[celest lance]

ight

im not gonna on till like afternoon est

[vernal nest]

That's fine

It'll probably be up pretty late into the evening anyways

[celest lance]

cool

[somber lodge]

a

[wet escarp]

simply have to send a GT3 car when it's out

[tough mist]

oh em gee I am fr gonna be flying out in a nascar stock car

[warm jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/510918361144885248/838713375655329802/image0-1.gif

[frosty bluff]

whats that in the better unit

[vernal nest]

like 110-120

Somewhere around there

[frosty bluff]

oh right

i gotta do runs on it again, forgot the feel

also krazy, the version you sent on our server is the one with the old chicanes?

[vernal nest]

Oh fun i see the problem

[vernal nest]

No

the computer now does not want to connect to the internet

[frosty bluff]

could you just uhh…. share the new version plese

oh wait

i cant read

[vernal nest]

ok i fixed it

server will be up soon so if y'all wanna play you can join Krazy's Server on BeamMP

I will send another message when it's up

It's about a 800mb download so beware

[frosty bluff]

shiet, i am gonna have to download it again

[vernal nest]

Server is up

Lemme know if anyone has any issues

Or if anyone is being a poopyface

If you be a poopyface on the server you will be unable to join the server

Search for Krazy's Server in BeamMP

This server will be up until probably 11:00 PM ET

Or in 13 hours

[frosty bluff]

gonna check when im home

also

wait gonna question it in our server

[narrow vigil]

oh thats fine
not like my internets the slowest thing on the planet or anything

[narrow vigil]

slow af first lap

[warm jay]

are we aloud to use the mapn off the server in single player?

or is that a big no no

[frosty bluff]

just wait for the release, its not that far

[warm jay]

yeah thats fair

[vernal nest]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/belasco-city-street-circuit.95214/#post-1652870

[warm jay]

tuffffffff

[frosty bluff]

yay

[simple sleet]

grapes

i like geat job

[vernal nest]

i keep going back and forth between if I want to do a rounded t1 or not

i could remove the island kerb but it would make some things look a bit out of place

[narrow vigil]

I would like it
Would flow nicer and some cars would work better

If I understand what you’re doing

[tough mist]

eeeekkk i get to finally try it !!!

[wintry trail]

can the pits function as a gas station? or is that not something you can do in beam

it would be cool to pull in and refuel and then go

[tough mist]

man
some of these corners are so unexpecting

maybe i have a skill issue

this one should have a bit more signage ngl

the runoff really gets you

[wintry trail]

it would be better to have the fence on both sides go up onto the curb and have a long straight plastic curb on the side

[narrow vigil]

Use the trees on the right

They are basically a perfect marker for the apex

[vernal nest]

this one is getting modified anyways

but i will put more easily visible braking point markers and i am gonna add more shrubery around

[tough mist]

alright

[karmic comet]

too narrow for capsule

[vernal nest]

that's wild bro

[karmic comet]

also too narrow for capsule

[vernal nest]

that's crazy

only one problem

[karmic comet]

capsule has race trims

accelera, powerglow, drift spec

[vernal nest]

that's wild

one issue

I don't actually care if the capsule can fit

[woeful bolt]

Are there no tire barriers?

[vernal nest]

in some spots there aren't sadly

[woeful bolt]

At least at the end of straights

[vernal nest]

I need to fix that

[woeful bolt]

That and brake markers would be cool to have

Otherwise looks great

I’ll try it later today for sure

[vernal nest]

I put brake markers in on most of the corners

but they are kinda small

[wintry trail]

yeah i need brake markers

my distance judgement in games is garbage

[tough mist]

did a 1:54 here using race emousse

wait
actually a 1:48
misread the thingy

[narrow vigil]

how can you misread something that bad

[tough mist]

im tired

did not get much sleep last night

[wintry trail]

i’m gonna try my race 800 series sedan here once i get a pc

[celest lance]

@tough mist have you tried to reenact the kyle busch incident from the chicago road course this year?

[tough mist]

no lmao

[celest lance]

whats up with your two-step in this

[narrow vigil]

my wheel is broken
paddles didnt work half the buttons unresponsive and something keeps clicking the two-step up and idk why

[celest lance]

oh

[celest lance]

erectile disfunction

[plush kelp]

moment

[wintry trail]

dead bull indeed

[lean valve]

Can you please dm me a link to that skin pack?

[warm jay]

private atm

still making some

[warm jay]

managed to squze out a 1 38 out of my supercar

the t23 braking zone is interesting to get a hang of

[vernal nest]

the server is now closed for the night

I will turn it back on again tomorrow morning

[simple sleet]

Time to test it out

[queen bone]

this in repo yet

[half ruin]

It's on forums

[celest owl]

fr?

wait nvm

[vernal nest]

server back up

[celest owl]

me who’s in the hospital and can’t play the map 😭

[vernal nest]

uh oh

so for the old chicane which is to be not

should I just wall it off

[karmic comet]

tested with double decker capsule powerglow, it's ok for it

now going to test with capsule gigatransit (articulated double decker)

articulated can go too, but barely passes the narrowest chicane

[vernal nest]

figure you guys might like what i've done here

[karmic comet]

you could've used the previous main track alignment with the 90° turn as the pit lane alignment instead

[vernal nest]

no, i couldn't have

Because it's not only not long enough but not wide enough

[karmic comet]

ha noi circuit has a pit lane just 300m long, including on and offramps

[vernal nest]

haha why don't you find a better spot then

[karmic comet]

ask vietnamese race circuit planners

i'm not the one that planned it

[half ruin]

Yeah the last corner was... Messy.
I like this map overall. The chicanes makes this track have a slower pace which is why I prefer to use more slower race cars.

[wintry trail]

should probably change the name of this forum to released

[half ruin]

Make it (Released) (WIP)

[strange walrus]

u have a V8 supercar mod?

[vernal nest]

it's released wip

[WIP Beta Released] WCUSA Street Circuit

[wintry trail]

great job

[vernal nest]

yeah tbh i hated that chicane too

dunno why i did it that way

[strange walrus]

pretty sure i missed that corner every lap out of like 50

LOL

[vernal nest]

yup it's difficult

[warm jay]

The chicanes I find are actually fun as to take probably because I race virtual v8 Supercars for sort of a living really the line you take really

But depends on the car really

Honestly what would be tuff is a high speed chicane area where t9 10 and 11 are like Gold Coast where your fanging It through there at 120ish k’s

[half ruin]

Also what I noticed is that the first little chicane after the dropdown to the docks, the Pessima Gen 2 Touring car can flip over when hit incorrectly.

[warm jay]

Raise it up abit

Stiffen the springs abit

[vernal nest]

too low

[half ruin]

Yeah I tested like 3 more cars and they worked perfectly fine

[vernal nest]

i've also found that it's really hard to reproduce but i have that seen happen once or twice

And it's literally always the 2g pessima btcc

[half ruin]

What car do you mainly use to drive on the track?

[vernal nest]

I was using usually an ETK K-series that i had slammed because it made it really easy to see when the bumper would get damaged by the kerbing or bumps

But I would also drive with the bolide and the carbonworks

[half ruin]

Ahh

[vernal nest]

the carbonworks has a floor that will tear off really easily if it bottoms out a ton which is why I drove it a lot

[latent hamlet]

Where is it released?

[vernal nest]

forums

hold on

https://www.beamng.com/threads/belasco-city-street-circuit.95214/#post-1652870

[latent hamlet]

Thanks

[half ruin]

For some weird reason I like using the Miramar race.

[vernal nest]

also please lemme know if the transition to the Turn 9-10 chicane still pops your tires if you are sliding

[vernal nest]

omg same

[half ruin]

Wish I could but its 11 at night here.
Might try tomorrow.

[vernal nest]

Yeah

[half ruin]

I like the track. Very fun.

[vernal nest]

ty 😄

[half ruin]

👍

[vernal nest]

a lot of the issues non-layout related rn are just because they're either a pain in the butt to reproduce or because of car-specific characteristics (Which I can try and fix or make easier to avoid)

I also need to fix the T15 kerbing because it likes to grab your bumper

[half ruin]

Tbh this track is made more for a RWD car anyways.

[vernal nest]

yeah

although

one corner I'd really like to fix is t17

because that corner is way too awkward and is not right

might see if the terrain tool will play nice for once

[half ruin]

which corner is that?

[vernal nest]

uphill corner before the fourth chicane

[half ruin]

Yep. That is awkward

[warm jay]

havent had a tire pop unless ive had to run through it

[vernal nest]

Ah

[wintry trail]

perfect, this happens with touring cars all the time

[junior surge]

will this eat my front left tire the moment i drive over it?

[warm jay]

nah

t19s fun as feels like newcastle t1

[fallen frigate]

oh its released

[gloomy egret]

u saved cat, hes thankful.

[celest owl]

bro where do y’all get these schemes

[warm jay]

I made mine

[warm jay]

How do you get photos with the wheel blur?

[junior surge]

This indicators are really easy to miss

i crashed into the turn after them

(Turn 23)

[vernal nest]

well don't worry that corner is going to be removed

[junior surge]

well i mean i like it

personally

[vernal nest]

i don't

[echo tinsel]

i dont really like chicanes in every second corner there is

[junior surge]

From my practice session for me the toughest turns are turn 9, 13, 16, 23

basically the corners where is hard to figure out where the track goes

[vernal nest]

well lucky you there's only five

Out of the total of 24 corners

so 7 of those corners are considered "chicane"

soon to be 5 (4 chicanes)

[junior surge]

turn 9 is hard to figure out becuase it looks like it continues straight from a distance and by the time to get to it you realise its a chicane

after a few laps i still had trouble finding the braking zone.

[junior surge]

Mind i recommend pushing the barriers closer to the curb. it will give the tight street parts a bit more breathing room.

[half ruin]

That too

[vernal nest]

don't you dare tell me anyone needs more room on the inside out of turn 14 :kek:

I'd like to see you make a move through there

[junior surge]

well i can in pigeons.

@vernal nest
Turn 14 Be Like:

[celest owl]

https://discord.com/channels/710082165253079061/1110286711222710302

[junior surge]

what?

[celest owl]

race pigeons

[junior surge]

ok

[digital thorn]

This track genuinely feels very V8 Supercars Newcastle to me and I like it

All it needs is better reference points honestly (brake markers etc.)

[warm jay]

Oh yeah it’s awesome

[queen bone]

bruv i legit thought the Belasco street circuit was in repo only to find out it’s a scenario and it’s made by a completely different guy

[woeful bolt]

There's like 4-5 at this point

Most in the same kind of area of the city just a slightly different layout

[junior surge]

i mean you could have two layouts for this corner Layout 1 for fast race cars and layout 2 for slow cars

Example:

[vernal nest]

that's what i'm doiiiinnnggg

ugh

[junior surge]

was there a message i missed?

[vernal nest]

yeah especially the ones directed at you saying that i'm removing/bypassing that chicane

[junior surge]

i dont know if you already planned about this but might i recommend making this a bit wider cause it feels to tight to navigate

going 18mph(30kmh) around a chicane doesnt feel race like. but that might be me.

[queen bone]

go drift boy

[junior surge]

i placed the car there to see the length of the road

[junior surge]

and i mean

[queen bone]

turning is necessary

even if you’re slower than a snail

[vernal nest]

if i make it any wider it allows you to fly through it and consequently become a Boeing 747 on the straight

I mean i can modify it a bit

But not a lot

[junior surge]

not really since the barrier is in a weird position.

[vernal nest]

well yeah

i mean if you carry too much speed through there in general

[junior surge]

i mean the barrier before the chicane is in a weird position. you cant go to far on the left to cut the chicane

Its like this.

[vernal nest]

the elevation transition on the hill is kinda why that chicane is there

but i might mess with it

but don't expect a lot of change

[junior surge]

also trying to race to cars that have the size of a grand marshal will sent one in the barrier

[vernal nest]

Not like that's an extremely good spot to pass anyways lmao

really hard to setup a move because of the cursed elevation change the corner before

Which i am gonna try and reduce

[digital thorn]

honestly the trick to that chicane is to attack the kerbs just right

especially the first part

i do think that section could be turned into the kerb hop central gold coast chicane

but that's just my craving

[plush kelp]

Brake markers need to be more visible. Original complaint I know

[vernal nest]

is there a specific corner or is it everywhere

because i am aware of the lack of brake makers before turns 17, 18 and 19

[digital thorn]

basically all of them needs to be redone to have actual meter (or feet idk what you prefer) numbering

it being a dark colored barrier going at speed can make them become totally invisible

[vernal nest]

The funny part is that they aren't dark

They're orange

[vernal nest]

And in this case, I don't have the patience or time to go into blender and make these

[ember arch]

So uh the one im finding on the repo is a scenario only. Where do I find the actual map?

[gentle coral]

here @ember arch

[ember arch]

Thx

[vernal nest]

yeah this isn't on the repo yet

don't look for it on the repo

because you won't find it there

it's in the forums

[digital thorn]

trust me, you can barely see them at speed

[vernal nest]

i can see them fine 🤷‍♂️

plus there isn't really a good place to put them usually

[digital thorn]

well of course you would as someone that's driven around it the most out of everyone

[vernal nest]

i mean it may be that I have motion blur off but

[simple sleet]

The one on the repo isnt the mod

[digital thorn]

at that point muscle memory would kick in rather than actually using what little marker board there is

[vernal nest]

also

fun fact

brake marker boards suck

[digital thorn]

but for people trying to learn the track, having some kind of reference point is a big help

[digital thorn]

id disagree entirely with this

[vernal nest]

there is usually better objects to look at in the environment to judge your braking point

[digital thorn]

brake marker boards are helpful as a initial reference then as time goes on you will naturally start looking for other points of reference

as you explore the limits and etc

but that's harder for some

so just because you're fine with it doesn't mean its not worth improving these aspects for everyone else

[vernal nest]

i mean

i'll see how much bigger I can make them

but

[digital thorn]

id suggest making it a brighter color honestly

especially a few of them are in the shadows depending on the time of day

or make them stick out more

[vernal nest]

well obviously

but

orange I've found is one of the most visible colors so I plan to stick with orange

[digital thorn]

its too dark of a orange really, but sticking with orange is not a bad thing i suppose

and well as for an actual track issue, i think the barriers coming into T12 need to be looked at as the left hand side of my car got ripped off randomly, admittedly I was close to the outside as i was opening up the corner but i wasn't riding the wall necessarily

[vernal nest]

how tf?

you probably hit the wall

send a video

[digital thorn]

I didnt record it unfortunately

I didnt even see it coming honestly

And it wasnt even as if i was steering towards it either at that point

I was just about beginning to turn in for 12

The way the crash happened look like there was something jutting out

[vernal nest]

Try and replicate it

I need to be able to replicate it to be able to fix it

To be able to replicate it I need to see what happened

Because complaining about a hard-to-replicate or unknown problem without providing any information or evidence about the issue other than "i was close to the wall" doesn't exactly make it easy to figure out

[wintry trail]

no pls keep it i want to flight

[vernal nest]

i don't

[junior surge]

In my opinion the problem with the track is that all the chicanes are too short in length causing their turns to be extremely narrow

[digital thorn]

I don't really think the chicanes are an issue

Really most of the issues are things seperate to thay

Sure maybe open up 18 a bit but in reality it adds to the challenge of the track

As for the racing product which is what you seem to be concerned with, the only passing opportunities is turn 9 and 10 and the hairpin at 16, maybe 19 if you have the run out of 18

The rest is down to if you can force a driver to an error or maybe rough em up a bit

Which to me is how a street circuit should really work

So in my mind the layout itself is fine as is

[digital thorn]

i think it wont be that hard to replicate, ill give it a go

[narrow vigil]

it does its job well
its supposed to slow you down and i think its pretty nice to drive if you get it right

[digital thorn]

also with how the kerbs are, its beneficial to ride them

[narrow vigil]

so long you arent driving the sunburst lol

[digital thorn]

...or a car that's set too low

lol

[narrow vigil]

the sunburst is so bad at this track tho
every few corners it suddenly has the urge to flip

[digital thorn]

then again, how you attack a track is based on how the car reacts to it so

tough luck to the sunburst i guess

lol

[narrow vigil]

yeah
but i cant read (or learn) and i WILL abuse those kerbs (to my own loss)

[digital thorn]

if the car keeps flipping id suggest trying to kit the kerbs as straight as possible

[narrow vigil]

yeah
honestly its more of an issue at t14 thsn anywhere else because physics idk

have to take a wider line or v off the corner to get it to work well

[digital thorn]

id say start turning before the crest

as given if the car does hop, it should go wide enough to avoid the inside wall

[narrow vigil]

it flips on the uphill lol
have to turn in late to keep it stable

[digital thorn]

what the

lol

[narrow vigil]

sunburst physics™️

[digital thorn]

well then you're just screwed lol

anyways another fun thing is to hop on the default WCUSA map and drive the track in its normal everyday guise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QFX2I3nZk&ab_channel=DawidKłoda much like this lol

[digital thorn]

Admittedly it seems I MAY have hit the wall coming into T12, but another issue i've always had with the K series, with the GT4 kit is this

and this always happens if i try to take this chicane with any form of speed

ig its a good cut deterent lol

i have raised the ride height quite a bit

[vernal nest]

that's a sunburst thing

it does that at the nordeschlife too

[vernal nest]

yeah that does happen

I gotta fix that

[narrow vigil]

Yeah ik
Just never had it so bad until this track

Is a nice track btw you did good

[wintry trail]

also the tire barrel things at the chicanes seem a little odd, it would be better to have those thin little pole things

[tulip hollow]

Its really grippy. Try stiffening anti roll bars

[warm jay]

Never had that issue myslef what’s your spring rate and ride height on

[vernal nest]

no it's a problem specific to teally low cars

the kerb will grab the bumper and just launch you

[half ruin]

Mmm tasti bumper says the kerb

[digital thorn]

Yep launch you and then send you either on your roof or make you skate the wall with your roof 💀

The tragedy varies with speed

Anyways my only solution rn is to use the E'X front bumper

Effect being, the car has basically no front downforce now lol

[vernal nest]

another solution is to slow down and not cut the chicane

[narrow vigil]

blasphemy!

[nova sapphire]

well they could raise the car so the bumper doesnt get caught

[strange walrus]

then the car will be oversteering like on every single bump on the track

[vernal nest]

it doesn't already?

that's like one of the most noticeable charachteristics of the k-series gt4

[nova sapphire]

change the toe of the car

[nova sapphire]

it does alot

[woeful bolt]

It understeers far more than oversteer in my experience

Mostly because they just didn’t give it any front downforce

[wet escarp]

yeah that's why i don't use it

[junior surge]

somehow i am mostly enjoying the layout in reverse

[nova sapphire]

try trail braking it put weight on the front wheel reducing the understeer

by giving the front wheels more grip

[vernal nest]

for me it's the exact opposite

it feels like it has no grip

[woeful bolt]

GT4s shouldn’t have a ton of grip. But the front not having downforce causes lots of handling woes at high speed

Your track may be too slow and technical to notice any issues though

[strange walrus]

oversteer is better than understeer for driving feel, worse for tyre and car wear

imo

[vernal nest]

yeah but it feels like it has less grip than a bycicle

there is no tire feeling

[tough mist]

this building is so oddly placed
i feel like this could be good for haulers

[woeful bolt]

Wait yeah why is there a building on the road

[wintry trail]

what the

[digital thorn]

It wasn't even that blatant of a cut, i just went slightly wide on the first part of the chicane

[digital thorn]

Already did before changing the bumper, it made it less prone to... well that.... but as you saw it can still happen

[nova sapphire]

i tried to recreate that but i could never recreate it

[digital thorn]

In fairness i did do a lot more setup work since then, ive yet to try the gt4 bumper again

Though

[vernal nest]

it's usually the second kerb

the first is fine

the second will do it sometimes

[vernal nest]

yeah idk it just felt right

[queen bone]

best mod ever ngl

considering I have a knack for street circuits

and the fact that I’m sick rn

this mod kinda made my dopamine levels spike up high

[digital thorn]

I think the best thing about it is its a very believable layout and it uses bits of the map that conduces to a good street circuit

[queen bone]

yes

but the main selling point is the fact that it's a street circuit

and the fact it's a map instead of it being a scenario

[tough mist]

yeah

[karmic comet]

temporary management office

[half ruin]

Ahh yes temporary by building a... building.

[karmic comet]

i actually tried, it doesn't

it's the only chicane capsule has a trouble with

[vernal nest]

dude that's wild

i don't care

[queen bone]

i should not have tried to start a race using ai

[vernal nest]

yeah ai doesn't work

[wintry trail]

it would be cool to see sponsors n stuff on the sides of the barriers

they look kinda bland ngl

[queen bone]

needs lore friendly sponsors

like Selecta, Tasticola, Hirochi, and so on and so forth

maybe even GripAll

[wintry trail]

yes

nomi

[queen bone]

what are some lore friendly sponsors

Okudai?

[simple sleet]

burnside

[queen bone]

according to in-game lore, it states that Burnside has went bankrupt somewhere in the 1980s - 1990s.

[lean valve]

As someone from Newcastle I never thought of this until now and can agree

[karmic comet]

FOLK, BeamNG

[queen bone]

is BeamNG the in-game government or something

I’ve never seen a BeamNG Sponsor In-Game

[karmic comet]

yeah, sort of

[queen bone]

k

[tough mist]

the containers

[queen bone]

oh yeah

BeamNG Shipping Co. frfr?

[tough mist]

frfr

[simple sleet]

in johnson valley, on the circuit it has burnside as a sponsor

[simple sleet]

the aircons in italy maybe

beamNG is a big corporation per se

like

BuyNLarge from walle

[queen bone]

wait what? maybe gavril revived burnside?

considering gavril owns burnside

so maybe somewhere in the 2020s, Gavril revived Burnside for Round 2

[simple sleet]

maybe

[woeful bolt]

I always saw them as Cadillac and never really going out of business personally. Though we need a modern Burnside to confirm that

Weird that they sponsor desert racing as well

But who knows

Definitely a fitting sponsorship for this map

[queen bone]

although the info may be outdated

idk

[woeful bolt]

Huh

Interesting

[queen bone]

source: BeamNG Wiki

[woeful bolt]

Could be a model of Gavril now or something

Pete Burnside Jr. Is also the driver of the Bluebuck stock car

[vernal nest]

i tried

[simple sleet]

my idea is they still exist, but they dont make cars but still make parts for their old ker

[queen bone]

k

[wintry trail]

and failed?

[junior surge]

Presumably. Otherwise he would of said he was working on it or something

[queen bone]

y’all leave the man alone

he’s trying his best

plus this is still in Beta and is still WIP

so you gotta expect some flaws or problems

[half ruin]

Fr

[strange walrus]

people over here care more about the sponsors on the walls than an actual functional circuit (which is being worked on)

das krazy bru

[wintry trail]

i’m just suggesting stuff bruh

get real

[strange walrus]

"and failed" that is criticism not suggesting lmfao

[woeful bolt]

Its both

He suggeted he try it, dude tried it but couldn't, then criticized.

I'm not saying its good to do that

but it is both a critisim and suggestion in all fairness

[celest owl]

most times it’s best not to say anything at all

[wintry trail]

no?

it’s a question lol

don’t just wildly assume i’m trying to criticize every little thing

[strange walrus]

think i said something once, if thats everything then you do you buddy. Stay mad lil bro 💀

[wintry trail]

im not mad lmao

[half ruin]

It does sound like you're mad even if you're not actually mad.

[tough mist]

can you guys shut up
this is why I don't like the change to forums in may

[junior surge]

Learn to not fuel an argument, u wastin space

we could be talking about the track and you out here holding grudges💀 grow up

Anyway track’s not perfect but it’s probably my favourite layout of like the 3 or four or sumn. kc did a good job

[wintry trail]

fr bruh

i love the track, yet to be able to try it and give layout feedback

just suggesting stuff based on the screenshots i can see

[vernal nest]

i'm gonna giveth the updated layout soon-ish

[wintry trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774035881249472533/1128441021924135052/attachment.gif

[strange walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/boosiefade-boosie-bruhwantedboosiefadebutgotthisinstead-gif-4018150076940301301

[plush kelp]

So funny

[celest owl]

I love how an entire thread can turn into an arguement with just 1 comment

anyway track is good but is almost impossible to drive big vehicles through some of curves

[vernal nest]

big vehicles such as...?

[celest owl]

I tried things like sbr4 and barstow and they were a bit difficult to navigate through without slowing to about 15 mph which could be intended but I found it a bit difficult

[vernal nest]

in which corners

some corners with the slow speed is intended

[celest owl]

can’t send right now because not home but will when I get to my pc

[vernal nest]

also it's inherently a grip circuit and a lot of the heavier vehicles lack that

[celest owl]

turn 15 and 18, those corners I get are most likely meant to be tight but for super cars it’s hard to navigate, you couldn’t fit two cars into that corner

[vernal nest]

as per my intentions

[strange walrus]

not being able to fit 2 cars on the last corner is kinda crazy but hey what do i know

[vernal nest]

that corner is good bye

[woeful bolt]

I need to try this track to see what all the yappin is about

The screenshots look fantastic

[fallen mirage]

Can someone link it

[junior surge]

Here bro

Also if there’s any mods here, prolly should pin that

[vernal nest]

@junior surge would you be able to do this?

[vernal nest]

tysm dude

[wintry trail]

Shiny_messageCat pinned a goo to this channel. See all pinned goos.

[woeful bolt]

FYI on exit of T1 the whole right side of the road is actually dirt

[tough mist]

yeah

it's fun though

[woeful bolt]

Yeah track ain’t too bad

Little rough around the edges but it’s a WIP for a reason so I’m okay with that

[vernal nest]

yeah, I know 😦 I just dunno how to fix it or what's even causing it

[frozen olive]

Maybe a kerb on the inside could fix it?

[vernal nest]

haha probably not

I have a few other ideas

[woeful bolt]

Terrain painter?

[vernal nest]

perhaps

[prime bane]

Contrary to everyone else, I like that the final corner is extremely tight. It screams take a shot or lose the chance

[celest owl]

I think there should be brake markers going into turn 19, maybe it’s just me but it’s easy to overdrive and crash into the wall

[vernal nest]

perhaps

part of the problem is you need to turn in at the right time

braking is usually pretty easy tho; brake a bit before the widening on the right of the track

The change in slope is difficult tho, yes

[wintry trail]

does he know

[half ruin]

I don't think so

[wintry trail]

he doesn’t know

[vernal nest]

he doesn't know

[celest lance]

he doesn't know 😔

[celest owl]

he does not know

[junior surge]

Okay what does he not know, am I missing something here, I don’t think I know

[karmic comet]

can you add an ai race for this circuit?

so that i could race segra, capsule, t series and wentward against each other

[queen bone]

there is no ai for this map and I don’t think he’s planning on adding it

[vernal nest]

the corner will be removed

[vernal nest]

no

[half ruin]

I believe script Ai is available. So use that to painfully record every cars movements using that.

[vernal nest]

hm

Screw it, roadmap time

[vernal nest]

Note before tho: I am not gonna give any firm release dates or even general times past december as to when things will likely be released because I suck at this lol
Also, some thing may be removed or modified

This roadmap is not final, it is expected to change.

Major update #1 - December:

• I plan to update the layout. Turns 22, 23, and 24 will be removed and will be replaced with a singular fast corner, and turns 1 and 2 will be consolidated into one sweeping corner down the hill.
• I also plan to move the start/finish straight to before where turn 22 used to be, making the sweeping right that will be replacing it "turn 1", and the old turn 1/2 (which will be consolidated) will be Turn 2.
• I am making small modifications to the barriers around the track.
• The straight after the turn 15 chicane has been widened.

Major update #2 (depends when the next game update releases):

• Update the map to the new version when it releases, fix any issues related to porting it
• possible modifications to some hills to make transitions easier (turns 16-17 and the following straight including turn 19 specifically)

Major update #3:

• Possible trophy truck circuit somewhere in Belasco City?
• Attempt at AI (unsure if this will really happen)
• likely more small fixed

There will possibly be small updates with fixes, etc between these 'major' updates

On the topic of AI, though

I'm not quite sure how to do a lot of that, so that will take time for me to figure out. If I can, I will at least make an attempt at adding AI support and AI races to the circuit.

[half ruin]

Cool. But take your time during December. Cuz it is Christmas month.

[vernal nest]

Yeah

I'm almost done with that bit anyways

Basically all that I have to do is finish the barriers around turn 2/3

[half ruin]

Oh ok nicee

[frosty bluff]

so the start/finish straight will be on that fast long left hander?

[vernal nest]

no

before

[frosty bluff]

mm, possible t1 chaos
also that blind left right chicane will be removed right?

last corner before the current main straight

[vernal nest]

Yes, that is what I said lol

also t1 you don't need to brake usually

it's not insanely difficult

Old T1 is gonna be T2 now

[frosty bluff]

mhm, gonna make it much better

[woeful bolt]

AI is really simple. Can be done by making the “drive ability” value -1 for all current decal roads on the map, and then adding a new 1 way decal road following the racing line with a value of 1

[vernal nest]

thank you

[fallen mirage]

What’s the file size for the mod

[vernal nest]

~800mb

[fallen mirage]

😳

[half dirge]

Where can i find the map? any links?

[woeful bolt]

Check da pins

[half dirge]

thanks

[vernal nest]

update released
https://mega.nz/file/8isQ3DQB#9RB9-fpW5kvA39uUb-GS_wpYdlXZ6qN-SmoRK1T4aGI

[strange walrus]

blud dont gave me a trojan virus

[vernal nest]

why would I

[strange walrus]

cause of my gigantic amount of etherium (im lying)

[vernal nest]

you can also open the folder and view the folder structure in mega

[strange walrus]

i like the changes you made

[vernal nest]

ok

[karmic comet]

time for me to test this layout with capsule

tested

turn 18 is still troublesome tho

turn 15 too

i would've narrowed that one to the right rather than left, creating a bottleneck straight rather than a tight chicane

[frosty bluff]

very good new layout

[wintry trail]

is there a way to have an alternate route from turn 14-17? or is that the area with hills n such

[woeful bolt]

Layout looks much better. I appreciate that you seem to have moved the start back so we will no longer have to brake before the S/F

[karmic comet]

hmm, have a 14a to the right, then left left right left left right

[wintry trail]

im pretty sure t14 is at that blockade near the downhill right?

ohhh wait no

[woeful bolt]

Only criticism now is turn 4/5 because I’m not sure the purpose it serves as it would make the corner more dangerous. If safety is your goal I would make it a right left chicane instead of a left right chicane so the exit isn’t pointed directly at the wall at 100mph

Or just remove it and have that corner be a faster sweeping corner

[wintry trail]

safety? hell naw

[karmic comet]

it's dangerous even at 100km/h

(i hit the wall with capsule a few times while trying to brake to negotiate)

[plush kelp]

bro uses the capsule to determine if a track is good 💀

also it is saying I need the decryption key. is the track updated on the forums?

[vernal nest]

Yes

[vernal nest]

It's in the bottom-most message

[wintry trail]

yes to which part'

[vernal nest]

On the forum post

it is the hilly part

[wintry trail]

aw

[vernal nest]

I was thinking about that

[woeful bolt]

I think it would flow much better tbh

[queen bone]

do i have to delete the old file

[vernal nest]

you can replace it

[queen bone]

so, the layout got changed?

[vernal nest]

Yes

[vernal nest]

link corrected

if you were having problems opening the link it should now be fixed

for future reference; clicking on the embed removes the decryption key from the link

[plush kelp]

Sweet

[prime bane]

Ong, use the T-Series instead

[plush kelp]

At least use a actual race car or something like that instead of a giant bus. Be normal

Test correctly

[karmic comet]

i'm intentionally using a bendy bus tho

actually a double deck bendy (gigatransit)

to test maneuvrability of the track

should i test it using a semi truck instead?

[karmic comet]

not the raceability

and capsule has several race trims

[vernal nest]

woah that's wild

one problem

the bus doesn't need to fit around the track

[karmic comet]

construction&rescue vehicles as large as capsule, should; otherwise you couldn't rescue drivers from a multi-vehicle crash

[vernal nest]

there is no service vehicle that needs to be as large as the capsule my friend

i mean, formula one still races in Monaco

🙂

[karmic comet]

monaco circuit has special transport plans just for the race
heavy vehicles do get used to prepare and remove the track

[vernal nest]

Dude that's crazy

Absolutely wild

[karmic comet]

there's a reason they don't do warmup laps in friday

[vernal nest]

????

[karmic comet]

it'd cause huge congestion if you tried to interrupt all monaco-nice traffic with special transport ops

i mean in monaco

[vernal nest]

they do have friday practice dude

[karmic comet]

since when?

[vernal nest]

since forever

[karmic comet]

monaco used to be thursday practice only

if they do do friday laps in monaco, then they start closing on ... wednesday-thursday night

[vernal nest]

dude i genuinely do not care about if a bus can fit in the track

[karmic comet]

and they have to remove all before monday commute

[vernal nest]

as long as it is good for driving, i am happy

[vernal nest]

also it can fit around the tightest corner
so

And so can a t-series with a flatbed 🙂

[celest owl]

idk why but after the update the track feels a lot more smooth and less tight

[vernal nest]

That's because it is 🙂

it's significantly wider in a few bits

hmm

perhaps

[wintry trail]

that wall looks dangerous

make the wall a straight line parallel to the bleachers but have a tire wall in the place where it used to be

[vernal nest]

people keep saying they just want this

[vernal nest]

the curb is there

[wintry trail]

thats why you have a tire wall

to cover it up

jt will be same shape just the tall wall wont be as brown pants moment

[golden ivy]

where i can download?

[vernal nest]

yeah but if you hit it, you go airborne

[vernal nest]

check the pins

[wintry trail]

splendid.

[vernal nest]

i just needa figure this out

because it's just

odd

[wintry trail]

two layouts?

[vernal nest]

perhaps

[wintry trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774035881249472533/1128441021924135052/attachment.gif

[vernal nest]

but

that still requires a functional chicane layout

[wintry trail]

make it a long chicane

high speed but not quite full throttle

[vernal nest]

do you even know what a chicane is intended to do 🤣

[wintry trail]

wiggly

slow down car

wiggly

[vernal nest]

yeah that part

[wintry trail]

but we could just ignore that