#[WIP] Autobello Novecento
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everything is everything
iirc there is a mod that has that
there is lots of mod that have that
mostly meshslaps
that have barely any effort
and in 2024 they are probably paid lma
make the engin openalble (imposibul)
this is gonna be a good addition but sad that people relate it to meshslaps
eh doubt
make it a rustbucket
its kinda being a reality in all vehicles in beamng that stuff is openable
Put it in the cup holder from novecento
cinquecento doesnt even have cup holders
😨
I can’t wait to smash this against a wall at full speed with no safety features (except seatbelts or maybe airbags I can’t remember if cinquecentos have airbags newer versions may have it but yeah) and die on impact from snapping my neck
nah lmao
cinquecento dont have airbags
seicentos do
so yeah
no safety features
besides seatbelt lmao
who needs airbags anyways
in cinquecento you die like a man
fr
idk we'll see
there will be sum eastereggs but a gun might have a problem going thru
i hear out every suggestion here
can you add fortnite
go to epik games
smh
yea ig
okay
surfer boards, BBQ, beer cans (can be advertised as beamcola or whatever it is), test dummies, also some funny bumper stickers (such as Honk for a Blowie from the inbetweeners car)
surf board im not addin its already in game prob
bbq idk what u mean, beamcola cans maybe, test dummies 4sure if i can, stickers there will be everywhere
i saw a video on youtube of a guy having a BBQ inside his car
iirc it was on the roof but what about a BBQ on the backseat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3G6LjBF7ns heres the video
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i think it is, but its under a mod
oh this uhh idk i dounbt
i know im gonna have to do a lot of engine tuning
otherwise ill get eaten by people
beamng people when there isn't 600HP avalible on an econobox
will there be a uhhh off-road version
idk if its an OEM spec but there was an 4x4 trim
i also found this
i get its a uhhh sciento but still quite funny
correct
does anybody know when this mod will be released (it can be in alpha,beta) i want to drive this car so much
have a kawasaki motorcycle swap tuned and turboed to the balls
like a 3 cylinder kawasaki engine
check pins
2024 im guessing
prob end
me when sad
but at least itll be fleshed out a lot ig
like rn the mod is imo in the stage of "it works but its kinda fucked in places and needs more stuff"
cant you just release ultra beta? 😄
cant wait to fuck this nugget at a wall at 300mph
yeah like a preview beta for like 2 usd for support
Its in stage
Constant revamp lmai
It does in the center, infront of the shifter
thats worst cupholder ive ever seen
It holds the cup, that's about the only thing it should do
It's not the Cinquecento's fault if you aggressively swerve and spill your coffee all over yourself
also addon to that message, lower dashboard is a optional part
so there might be nothing aswell so
and if anyone wonderin what that airbag steering wheel does there its seicento steer
atleast i think its like that
ok so I died 😁😁 👍👍
Kath loool
i know this is a Panda, but it would be funny on the Novecento
I forgot that concept existed
maybe will be as a paint design
Panda mentioned?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
alright i need that spoiler in my mod lmao
Looks awesome, but it would look even cooler if it was body coloured.
fr
fiat cinquecento daewoo tico edition
True.
cinquecento dlx 🤯
I thought the same thing. Looks just like a Tico spoiler
This should be added as well lmao
Sporting is planned
🤑
he meant the spoiler probably
yeah, I meant the spoiler
by the way, will the novecento have any taillight mods? like blacked out, ricer or even clear taillight
i forgot about that but now that u say about it i will add them
as doing clear taillights is like 2 minutes of work so i can surely add
i mean depends what kind of clear taillights but there will be few types
🫨
When is mod releasing, it looks so cool.
ty, this year but when idk
i mean hopefully ill manage to release it this year lol
Nice
take your time and dont rush 💪
I think a sleeper /tuned is with the fiat panda 100hp engine would be pretty cool, just a suggestion tho 😁
A 1.4 T-Jet swap is planned in the list
1.4 non turbo tho?
yea i guess idk
Wouldn't really make sense as swap
1.4 NA was kinda gutless even on the Panda
its not but sure lol
its very revvy and would go well as a non turbo track swap etc
especially in a lighter seicento cinqeunto style car
I've driven the Panda 100HP and I didn't feel much guts from the engine, all it has in advantage is its sporty driving dynamics, the engine itself is begging for a turbo
🤷♂️
what sort of roads, its got a good amount of power and can easily keep up with more poweful cars on a good road
Twisty mountain roads
well on a twisty uk b road im able to keep up with m330i's and other cars like that
Having driven a 1st gen Uno Turbo which has 1 extra hp than the Panda, i can feel more push and life in the engine a lot more than the Panda 100HP
well yes because it has a turbo, with the panda 100hp you need to keep it revving high to get the power
also the uno is 100kg ish lighter
That's what makes it have a lack of guts
Overall if you want an engine with guts you'd much rather want a turbocharged one like the 1.4 T-Jet or Multiair
ive been in a t jet swapped one and it was good but just lacked the fun of the revvy n/a one
well yes but thats not the point of the panda 100hp
if you wanted a fast small fiat you buy the abarth 500 etc
if you want a chuckable, fun and light car which you wont lose your licence in then the panda 100hp works well
I don't hate the Panda 100HP per se, i like the way it drives, i just think the engine is slightly lacking in what it could have not lacked
also sardinia is cool
i see what your saying, for the uk at least having no turbo works just fine but i can understand why a turbo would be wanted
it depends on what you want really
also the panda 100hp unless tuned well doesnt handle as well with the turbo lump in it speaking from experience
Then again here it's a fairly common practice to ditch the Panda 100HP's N/A 1.4 to swap in a 1.4 T-Jet
not surprised, makes a good sleeper
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250hp
jesus thats a lot from the t jet
well even if the t jet is added and then the ability to remove the turbo thatd be great
Not really
People have pushed T-Jets to 300-400 easily
considering they come with 150-160 then it is
but i suppose italy is a bit different to here
as they must be very very popular
190 on the 695
we dont get a lot of 695's in the uk its mostly 500's
yeah
most people mod the 595 to around 200 ish
its not a common platform to fully mod etc
Here a lot of builds of the T-Jet surpass 250-300
wow
Here it's an extremely common platform to mod and swap into other Fiats as it's a strong and versatile platform
yeah fully understand
The only engine that surpasses the T-Jet in terms of popularity, swaps, aftermarket and builds is the 2.0 Lampredi Twincam I4
whats that from?
Delta Integrale, Tipo 16V, Fiat Coupé 16V Turbo etc.
haha fair enough
makes sense
over here in uk thats not common as they are very rare engines
The 2.0 has been pushed as far as 800hp
what do you mainly drive ?
i daily my panda so was wondering what you can compare it to etc
2009 Fiat Grande Punto 1.3 Multijet, 75hp stock but modified to 130hp
nah thats a nice one for italian roads
It drives really good though
can imagine with a good amount of power and a good setup must be tonnes of fun
It doesn't understeer, it feels planted to the road, suspension feels comfy and I don't feel anything when i hit potholes lol
nice
Also the brakes are overpowered
When i first bought it, i wasn't used to the brakes and when i braked i almost stopped still in the middle of the road
Let's move to #automotive though
🤫
oh damn thats really fire
here is full render tho idk why its black on end so ill prob remake it tomorrow
its 2k res so u can see all details on second one
the hell? the image moves
idk if you can see it here
very strange
Nothing beats my 2 cylinder beast
Huh
Fr
nah the image just very slightly moves up and down
Idk discord issue
yeah I’d guess
also maybe a skateboard
The 500 was offered with a two-cylinder
Old Top Gear even had a bit about it how even though it's got a smaller engine, it was less economical than a Golf TDI in city traffic
I am very well aware lmao
I know of the Twinair lol
Somehow they thought a turbocharged 2-cylinder was a good idea
Meanwhile dacia making a 1.0 turbo engine 💀
Sick
was it you traxr who was making the european box trailer?
Yeaaaah
Now that u say it i kinda wanted to revive it lmao
But cinquecento first
but you have to make t4
PLEASE
Looks good
hey yall thread been kinda dead (as always) tho im back with progress, since i made rear underbumper im gonna continue remaking whole chassis rn. Although sadly there is still school so progress gonna be kinda slow but hopefully not (in next 3 days engine bay im guessing should be done so seek out for progress)
Ayyy update
not decided yet
as i said im unsure about jbeam stuff
if it will be shit or mid im gonna make it free but if its gonna turn good af then ill let ya know
make a shit version thats free and paid goob version :3
or make it free idk (i dont hab monies)
That killed any liking that I had for this project
i've been saying that all time before
its even said in thread
that its unsure if its gonna be paid or free
paid early access and free full release is the best solution imo
along with bmac for people who want to support
agree
agree
agree
Agree
Agree
Best of both worlds
We'll see
ok
its wip
you see, if you use your eyes, theres this little box that says [WIP]
Yeah zi saw that 2 seconds after zi sent the message
actually i forgot to add alpha maps also
but this is how it +/- looks like lol
also no dirt materials yet cause there is too much work with them and materials are temporary anyway
this shadow (i think it's shadow) looks kinda strange
nah i just didnt put sharp edge there
also i didnt edit the inside yet
just the fenders and overall front and outside
no
Crazy
today no progress since im tired after school although i was curious to see how good the steelies will look ingame after full texturing and ngl they look sick (the car model u see on screen except rims is outdated as i still didnt update it ingame yet)
Are the numbers in the trim names a reference to the engine displacements?
I assume so
what u mean exactly?
cause i dont understand really lol
like the 0.7?
i mean 900i
Yeah, that's what I meant
Ahh
i forgot what the i actually means
lma
but yea something for sure i dont really worry about it now
it looks so niceee
even if body is outdated
fr
now that i look the old model isnt that bad
imagine then how good the new one will look
that just motivates me more to work on it lol
Looks pretty awesome man excited for this
staluwy
ANOMIC MANIAC ROADTRIPPIN HERE
i like this nugget
Fuel injection?
nah
That's weird then
The i usually signalized that
Somewhat of a status symbol back in the day
Having fuel injection in your Opel Vectra was better than having a Rolex
Will it have opening doors? (just asking)
no
it already does
did send a video before of opening doors but ill send it one more time
What engines will be
0.7 30KM 22Kw
0.7 31KM 23Kw
0.9 41KM 30Kw
0.9 I.e. S 39KM 29Kw
1.1 Sporting 54KM 40Kw
1.2 16V 86KM 63Kw
(Real life engines of Fiat Cinquecento)
lookinf forward to this mod!
no
700cc
900cc
1100cc sporting
t-jet swap
how much hp will be in strongest engine with tuning?
how i am suppoused to know lol
no idea
i dont even know what mechanical tuning there will be
i know there will be few exhausts one aftermarket engine and few turbos and didnt do more planning as i leave it on the end
probably everything lol
still working on model didnt start on textures, jbeam is finished but after the model rework i will need to redo it kinda
hardest thing is to finish the model
especially as im doing all details in cars 3d and then baking to 2d
and that takes a lot of time
there is going to be loong wait for the mod but its gonna be worth it
as i doubt in other mods there are features or details like that
cant you find someone to help you?
not needed
i already got help with modeling and anyways i want to do mostly by myself
I'm just too good
i think the 1.2 16v is the most common swap it doents come from the factory
More common is 1.4 tjet i think
yea exactly
From what Ive heard it is hard to find a non swapped Sporting in italy
Apparently most are 1.2 16v swapped
Considering its size there should be like a rear engines home made hillclimb
That would be sick
Or like a powerful bike engine config
This would be a pain to do, it'd need a different body Probably
Ik but it’s just an idea
I would agree it'd be awesome :)
That is completely untrue
Swapping is not an extremely common case here for the Sporting
People mostly swap base model 500s
Most Sporting Cinquecentos are kept stock
And resold, sometimes overpriced, because owners think they are worth gold
Example:
Oh ok then
Who is gonna pay 2.500 € for that?
I dunno
aren't sportings supposed to be in red and yellow only? i mean idk but i think thats how they got produced? but yeah thats way too overpriced
nah
its just the main colors that are used
there is even dark red, blue, gray
its just that yellow and red is the most iconic one
no
funni car
I name this car irl "trash" "toi toi"
ok
any activity yet here?
Yoo, pierogi 🔛🔝
workin on it slowly
but its not possible to show progress cause it will look shit lol
i can guarantee tho im, workin
Only with minso 
pierogis are my fav non candy food
mine too 
real
Disrespect for the SÜPER HALAL döner kebap
average polish person food fr
anything happend yet?
.
I can give some picture but im not sure if yall will be interested
and i do not want to post some fix progress as it would be pretty messy
What are the odds, when you are done with this, of lore expansion with a Seicento? @molten sparrow
honestly i doubt im gonna do a seicento sadly
since seicento is literally a cinquecento but with other body
even chassis is the same
maybe MAYBE im gonna do some time seicento with cinquecento update but honestly i doubt
IRL, seicento is a bit bigger than cinque. And the sus layout is a bit modernized.
But, here, it is your toy, you do with it whatever you want ❤️
i mean
like said
chassis is same
just the body panels are other
or i might be wrong but @wise saffron is my own specialist lmao so he can maybe give a better answer
Oh.
Looks like it's true.
The only difference being updated electronics and addition of ABS & Power Steering in more expensive models 😛
yea and airbag in steering wheel lmao
and i think they added airbag to passanger dashboard
not sure tho
ye
We need the inbetweeners cinquecento in this mod
that been mentioned alot the in past.
Responding to this)
Sounds like the 600 is basically the 500 but with new panels...which makes sense...
you tried making a seicento before and you abandoned it,for making this cinquecento
As an italian, really well made mod man!
Cinquecento's now are mosly cars of the elder or of fruit sellers at the side of the road, the FIRE engine is reliable as heck that's why they're still in use.
i abandoned it because back then i was doing bad meshslaps and the modeler 1. doesnt have time anymore 2. ngl he wasnt really good
ty, yea i agree
Of course you agree. It's your mod. No one would badmouth their own work
Jokes aside, it's really lookin' pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty good
i mean the thing he said under
I was only kidding, keep up the good work, man
This is already looking beautiful
Tiny compacts like these are an untapped market in Beam
another untapped market are 50s and 60s European cars
(Renault dauphine, fiat 128, volvo amazon, peugeot 404)
also, the airplane section in the repo
that has been dead since 2018 B.C
that's only using 1% of that 900cc engine's power
i bet that thing can carry an antonov an-225
real
there's also those riced out ones with the most useless shit
like, its the base 700cc
model
but has spoilers
LED lights
custom bumpers
you mean this?
yes
and also, those 2000w stereos just to blast the worst music ever
Do we have too much centos?
I see a Twingo.
He's a French spy don't worry
Oh.
Wait a second... French spy?
He's Italian by spirit
Oh, nice.
The donor cento looks so sad and left out without headlights and wheels ;(
😦
i am a proud owner
tingo
tuingo 👍
fix bro up ong 🙏 😭
blud did not deserve this fate
this looks really cool
any progress here?
I saw it some where traxr is working on a lore friendly vw transporter
alright good information, i kinda managed to "get back on the track" and novecento model is progressing, in next week (so like from 18.03) there might be some progress i might even be able to finish whole body and get it finally into the game
ooooo
glad to hear :3
Gl
smol progress, textures are as placeholders which means they are not final (as u can see they look pretty bad)
it looks fine to me :p
looks really good
looks great to me
hw doess one make those seals?
do you do it like window seals? so like extrude and solidify?
yea smthn like that
sometimes im adding bevel but only on details im lazy to bake
yeh it works
how many % the mod is complete?
0.0000000001%
1cm
im nothin like yall 😎😎
no idea lol
rn for few days im doing description of all configs and what they should have, basically im just setting everything up so its easier and faster
kk
Didn’t realise we were talking about your pp size 
its not my mod though
just sayin incase u thought its mine lmao
Anyway I didn't want to make it look like I'm not doing anything again so I pretty much this is all I can remember I did past few days
-Remade whole taillights (now 3d) ((also i forgot in the pic to add bulbs but they are there now lol))
-Remade quarterglass now with added trim
-Fixed size of seatbelt and this thing that holds the belt
-Fixed materials (no screen)
-Rear seats are modeled and done (again, looks bad without texturing lol)

Other stuff there would be no sense to post screenshot of are fixed bodylines that were too short/too long or in wrong height, fixed geometry of rear hubs aswell the floor, fixed some shading and wrong vertex position, and remade whole front windshield since it had lots of issues.
Your op tho…
nah thats atoms
sorry
try again
Awww, I always wanted one of those plush Twingos.
'Oil Starvation' intensifies
(nothing is final on the picture, there is no body textures aswell engine bay isnt done yet)
also here is the rear
youve cooked hard
ty
sick
words cant describe how hyped i am for this mod, probably same amount of anticipation for the actual update
proud to hear that lol
Yeah this is sick
I absolutely love how this is turning out so far
I cannot wait to throw it around on a dirt road
just a quick note, is the lens meant to be this goofy
wdym
the right is like angled off from the other ridges is that meant to be?
i would scream and cream if there was a massive subwoofer "prop"
there will be
its a polish car everyone has a subwoofer in a back of cinquecento
if u mean the texture
bang and oulfsen will bang the car to pieces
then dont mind since its a temp one from internet
screamin and creamin.
im gonna do my own tetures obviously
ah makes sense
wave texture my beloved
Fusion or Bose or JBL that is the question
none
since its lore friendly
lol
true
wait you have to have the subwoofer hooked up to a trigger that breaks the windows or like a piece off the car lmao
pretty sure you can make lore-freindly names of all 3
You should make JBL into BLJ
naah there will only be one lol
but ngl
"Fooshun" "Buse" and "BNG"
Better than jbl
barely fits into the boot
the old alpine systems yesss
yea dude
whoel trunk gonna be clammed with that
i saw some dude have a bit of his rear seat chopped to fit a woofer in
if you close the boot itd literally have o space
or a boxy one like that yea
im not sure if im gonna do a boxy or round one
doesnt matter that much but yea
both
Lmao I saw someone but subwoofers in the trunk and passenger seats
i gotta make it compatible with LPG lol
im clinically stupid so ima try cram one into a 106 when i get one/if i get one
The only free space was driver seat
boxes are subwoofers
round are speakers
round > better surrond
cuboid > better sound clarity
ah boxy one then
can be both a woofer is just a speaker which has a very low resistance
and also no cone so no sound distortions
i remember once i saw a Sciento or Cinquento with a Lup front end
You could put just a more "normal" aftermarket sound system
No woofers
Just aftermarket radio
And speakers
or maybe this one
i can model and texture one if you wanna, and then i can use it in the bete ricer lmao
idk it doesnt matter that much anyway
yez
Yeah that would fit pretty well
I LOVE JBL
KSS maybe as brand, Komona Sound Systems?
im just gonna make a aftermaket sound system and its just gonna include the subwoofer, radio, and door speakers
smort
CHB - Cinquecento hard bass
lmao
i can help if you wanna (would be fun to model something detailed)
nah probably BJL
cliche imo
im fine rn but ty
KSS sounds better
Polo lights 💀
lmao
yea but BJL is a pretty common name
nah its a Lupo front on a Sciento
ill se tho
really?
ye
first priority good base lol
also unrelated question do you bake your colour maps with transparency (like if its 0.3 alpha in render or sum)
some people put speakers under the seats so passengers could litreally feel the bass
or just full plain colour
lmao
yea that wouldnt make sense tho
u cant feel in beamng lol
Just sit on the speakers, same feeling
and anyway almost no one would saw something like this
unless motion rig lmao
yeah its beam can't really do tha
Like directly on the speaker
make the woofer shake a 120kg node
yea good luck for me making a lua that is compatible with rigs i never even saw in my life
shake the car into bits
i remember a youtube video once where someone put speakers on the body panels, would be a cool livery
lmao
(i got no experience with lua) 😃
. (im desperate)
like why lights so hard to bejk
uhh
anime cinquento
i didnt bake lights at all for now
lmao
gonna worry about that when doing textures
right lmao
i did bake maps for some meshslaps
but how do you do it :p
but ngl i kinda forgor
femboy detected
imma fuck about at this point
what
💀

Anime skin??m?
i am a fellow femboy its okay its alright
you fire that up whilke its closed off itll absolutely shatter the glass
yez.
ong
So remove glass🤯🤯🤯
pliz make the nove do that
No but jokes aside it would look hillarious
Or how about: woofer on roof
i think theres a way to make the radio work, just find an incredibly bassy track
i have one
i have a couple hold on
yea and i will finnish the car in 2027
lmao
I've got way, way, worse
i kinda want to finish it before 2024 ends
but now that im thinking it might be not possible lol
i do too with the bete but so far im burnt out to shit
Take Kenwood and call it Keniron
im burnt out too
but
im pushing myself lol
im just doing mini mods atm
i love autism music
like headlight remaster
Stay positive 💪💪 but don't sweat it, if you need a break then no prob
i totally be not bangin this sometimes
idk
perfect.
i have most of the base model done idk how much farther i can go 
fart her xdddd
My summer car music???
sorry
Sounds like it
nah
some
indie if u can call it like that
lol
I'd say more like 2000s skinhead/raver scene
Sounds a bit like the music from the tuners in msc
shitty question but do you also sometimes think of just giving up on the mod?
not the polaventris shit noooo
i once got s pissed i deleted most of it 
Whenever I start some kind of bigger project I just give up on the first problem I encounter 💀
lmao
But now I'm trying to port an assetto map to beam
Is this gonna have a custom engine sound?
I'm gonna try to not give up
i spent 2 hours on blender, did naff all, deleted it
I kinda hope so lol
Just ragequit whenever you mess up
Simple
The Autobello boxer engine is close enough to a 2 cylinder lol
I guess we will see idk
nope
thought at first
but now its too late
and this is my first priority
before everything
i mean obviously before everything on pc
not decided yet
depends on how it will sound
if i will manage to make custom sounds sound good then u can tell
but otherwise some autobello tuned sounds
wait
hope to god we get more than new i4 sounds
after 0.32 id say do engien sounds
this car doesnt have i4 tho lmao
oh wait
it does nvm
lmao
yea well idk
sounds gonna be last anyway
not my first priority
idk
i4 sounds too modern
for a car like that
when someone say of i4 im thinking bmw
idk why
polish
when sb says i4 i think of 1.9tdi lmao
or 2 speakers in the trunk board
call it a 16v then 
most i4s back then were just 16V engines lmfao
or 8V
16V was ""luxury"" or ""sport"" in the 90s
Wasn't a thing a lot of economy models had
Maybe higher trims yes
No cinquecentos had a 16v engine maybe if you swap the head of the 1.1 with a 1.2 head
fr
cinquencentos used either the 700cc engine that was only for poland, a 900cc engine that evolved from the Fiat 850 (No im not joking), and a 1.1 liter FIRE engine for the sporting variant
the only fiat cars that had 16V at the time were the tempra and some really high end Tipo/Bravo/Brava
Some even had 20V (at least Lancia Kappa had and I think therefore Fiat Thema, too).
Oh no, it was Fiat Croma, I´m getting caught in Alzheimer!
Lancia's were a premium brand
"premium"
1.1 and 1.2 had nothing in common, they were completely different engines
Yup they were
By italian standards it was a premium brand
although it fell out of that segment in the 90s
Just to sell little doesn´t make you premium they were just rebadged Fiats with the same mediocre build quality.
That wasn't the case in the 70s and 80s
With cars like the Delta, Thema and Prisma
really good cars
Actually they sold the 700 here too but it wasn't very popular
here it was never sold from what i know
I wouldn't say so, the Kappa was still a luxury car although it wasn't good enough for people's expectations of Lancia luxury so it fell hard on its own feet
The Thesis was also luxury, but it was too expensive compared to competitors to be successful
The cinquecento here is thought of here as a shit car, not deserving that 500 name
The kappa was really great
(It was not)
Thesis was simply a car not for lancia, lancia by then had lost luxury status
the dedra is a shit car
like the guy who designed it probaly was lazy asf and thought "eh i'll just make a shittier Tempra/croma"
The Thesis was luxury, but the price point made people uninterested
Reading a lot of original articles and reviews when it was new, it seems like a lot of people did like the daring design
The design was lancia's trying to fit into the trend of curvy retro styled cars like the PT Crusiser and VW Beetle
Trust me I was born in 67 and have witnessed the Lancia downslide first hand. Last good cars they built was probably before Fiat took over.
and failed miserably
The Thema and Delta are legendary
I still see a lot of Dedras around
They weren't bad, but they weren't really a luxury car, more like "I'm too poor for a Kappa so I'll get this"
design wise im saying
gosh
True
The 2.4 JTDm is awesome
All hail JTD
💪💪
When the engine lasts more then the electronics of the car
Honestly i only ever had 2 electronic problems
A taillight fault which i fixed by changing a fuse for cheap, and an airbag light that disappeared once i turned the car off and on again lol
I live near pomigliano d'arco
and i can say, alfa workers in the 70s-80s there mostly striked
then actually producing cars
159s in my area are everywhere
Here 156's and 147's are common, the 159 is rare actually and i know a person who had one
he had a JTD one, great car
even had a nav system which wasn't actually that shit
Here 159s can be found for cheap and they can be found everywhere, they have good rep around and it's not hard to find 2.4 ones or 3.2
same thing
3.2 is a GM motor tho lol
they weren't popular in the south of italy tho
Though I haven't heard many good things about the GM Alloytec
Here, most cars are diesels cause fuel economy
my family only owned one Gasoline car (a Delta Turbo of my father that he used in the early 90s, wasn't an integrale it was FWD)
I didn't remember a turbo FWD Delta
FWD was 1.3 and 1.6 LX but I don't remember a turbo
Honestly the 2nd gen Delta HPE is underrated
2.0 16V Turbo, 190hp, not AWD sadly (FWD) 7s 0-100 but overall it wasnt a bad car
Though people were still pissed off that Lancia pulled out of WRC
it was mostly hated for its design
How can it be hated for its design
It looks like an Opel Kadett GSi
Styling was always good in Lancia. Just look at Gamma Coupe or the interior of the Trevi. Or Beta Coupe, or Fulvia, or ....
this thing is actually pretty sick
Always? Not really
Look at this stuff
i think
i finally found a car
i never would want to drive
or own
multipla is alright, mercedes a class is alright, BUT THIS WTH
the third one isnt that bad
but first two is cancer
first one is straight up a egg
second is also a egg but worse
It's a rebadged Fiat Idea
fiat idea looks good tho
okay
actually this is the ugliest thing i ever saw in my life
if anyone says this looks better than multipla
then im gonna
My favourite gen will always be the 1st, the Autobianchi Y10
Y10 is bigger than it looks
i think white custom gauges would be perfect for this car ( 00's tuning )
DISGUSTING
now lancia is basically the Y company (The only thing they sell is the Ypsilon now)
at least they decided to make a new Ypsilon after like 14 years, they will only make like 3k of them though
The regular Y will be regularly produced
there's also the New Y
which in my opinion looks horrible
""Make""? You mean "rebadge a Peugeot 208 and put makeup to it"?
my grandpa has a 2021 base model Ecochic GPL
The 1.2 Puretech sucks ass
Well yeah it's a car made to be at the bottom of price point
Of course it'll be scarce in finish
it is pretty different though, maybe the core is the same but overall they don't look the same
it's not like what VW, Seat and Ford did back in the 90s with the Sharan, Alhambra and Galaxy
my mother had one of these, she said it had many problems and she also crashed (and totaled) it on the highway, so apparently they weren't just ugly, but also shitty cars, unless that one in particular was faulty / not maintained properly
Or also the Citroen Evasion, Peugeot 806 and the Fiat Ulysse
I saw a 2002 - 2014(mk2) Fiat Ulysse a few days ago, those are really ugly
the mk1 wasn't that ugly though
It's not different at all
Sure, different front and rear end
But the body is entirely the same
They just put a black piece of plastic on the c-pillar to try and hide it
The doors, fenders, roof etc. are interchangeable
They have the same shape as the 208
And the Corsa
LOVE the Delta, I find the Ypsilon cute (I like small egg cars) but the musa is UUUUUUUUGLY
And oddly like this thing also
kinda gives me lancia hyena vibes
bro its better than a cheap lancia body on a panda platform
the fact that stellantis is trying to relaunch lancia instead of letting it die is good news
that 1st gen panda looks brilliant!
Nah I'd rather watch it die
And i say this as a diehard Lancia fan
Everything including Fiat and its models is becoming French
Everything will be a Peugeot with different looks to say "Look at me, I'm different"
They're adopting the VW strategy, but twice as stale
Only thing that could make Lancia be great again is if perhaps some car-guy billionaire buys Lancia from Fiat and Stellantis and then let's the engineers make some sports cars, no expense spared
But this could only happen in a dream world I suppose
Or if we get lucky
They do an car, the Ypsilon.
I think they also said that they will make a new Delta in 2028
For me all of them looks nice
once this is released, im torturing the fuck out of it on the nordschleife
2028 is as far away as 2020, it’s not that far.
(December 31st 2020 is actually about 2 months closer than January 1st 2028 but it doesn’t make much of a difference)
Italian Yugo 🗣️
Yea when those guys did that spiritual Stratos successor they actually asked Lancia if they'd like a collaboration with them, and Lancia wanted nothing with the car
Clearly the current suits up there are boring asf and don't want Lancia to be a sporty brand
They made this, asked Lancia if they'd like to collaborate making it, and they said hell no
Fire the suits running Lancia fr
"Those guys"
Pininfarina lmao
That was born as Pininfarina New Stratos
The y10 was a really good car, heck i still see them around
Atleast compared to the a112 it had a more original design
The a112 looked like a mini but with a tailgate
shows why nobody cares about modern lancia
yeah, with European union hating conbustion cars.
Yeah, forget about it
We really need some car guys in the EU parliament
Atleast Germany's got a huge automotive lobby
it looks good
they just need to die as a company
the concept of this car was in colin mcrae dirt, such a cool car
Italians aren't buying EVs lmao
EVs here are still 4% of the whole traffic
They announced they'll start producing the 500E as gas as well because it's not selling well
Took them 4 years to realize
But are they in Brussels telling Von der Leyen that?
The consumer knows himself what's best, definitely
That's why, as you have said, ICEs are still popular
But get some bureaucrat to understand
Italians use reasoning that all the EVs they're selling here have absurd prices for how little they offer
Compared to a hybrid that costs half
Other consumers say that too
Every EV so far, apart from maybe the Dacia Spring, is way out of the basic buyer's price range
But the ADAC, German AAA, says that the Spring is unsafe for highways due to how slow it is
And it has terrible mileage
A second hand 5 Series diesel would be 100x better
The Dacia Spring is overpriced lmao
20k euro for an 80hp paper shitbox
For an EV at 20k i expect at least 150hp
It is still in a price range normal consumers can meet for a new car
But it definitely is too expensive for what it is
A base Sandero is like roughly half that, no?
I mean, the Kwid is much cheaper here.
Kwid and Spring are different tho
Around 210.000 MXN$.
Kwid has a lot lower safety standards
Yeah.
The Kwid was made first.
But the Brazilian model is safer than the Indonesian model.
Here the dominant selling car is still the Panda
And i doubt any car will surpass it anytime soon
Noice.
They sell it in Hybrid only now
1.0 3 cylinder turbo hybrid
They unfortunately axed the 1.3 Multijet
Sad...
It is enough that they did not replace it with a Peugeot powerplant
I don't want to see the 1.2 Puretech touch the Panda
EU parliament does not understand making EV cars are worse on the environment from the getgo than producing an ICE car
What's the use fr if the batteries are made out of non-renewable resources
When it's replacing cars that run on a non-renewable resource
Agreed.
This is why most third world countries still run on ICE - for this exact reason.
Most 3rd world countries still run on ICE because of economical reasons
Fossil fuels are cheaper and save lives
Just look at how less people suffer climate related deaths since the 20th century
The Abarth 500e also sold like 14 cars in the first two months of 2024, which was less than the Ferrari Roma
Not surprised
Giving an electric Abarth to an Abarth fan would be like giving them pasta with ketchup
kinda useless 2 words, but isnt spaghetti kinda a pasta with ketchup? i mean sauce is from tomato and ketchup is also from tomato so its kinda the same
i get what you're trying to say but italians would kill you over what you just said lol
but tomato sauce is technically ketchup
or can be kinda considered ketchup
Spaghetti is just the pasta. Spaghetti pomodoro, with tomato sauce, would be your example
No lmao
Tomato sauce and ketchup are not the same
tf y'all are speaking about bruh
will there be the 2 cyl from maluch that real cinquecento had?
Pinned configs include 700
So yeah
very sick 🔥
fiats good
ador
any progress?
Mod has been cancelled because you said that......
fr?
yeah...........
did owner said anything? bro dont scare me
Will the Kitcar rally car be included in the add-ons?
yep TraxR cancelled the mod
ong
nahhh that's fr?
the tomfoolery has been done
