modding-general

[inner heart]

i meant error that is accepted by the game, that the plugin also decide to accept

but is not acceptable as json

[minor moth]

ok and jbeam is just a modified json with its own rules

[inner heart]

rules that are less strict

[minor moth]

so what is the fucking problem if its non standard as lonmg as it has documentation

[inner heart]

is there really a documentation on whats considered fine in jbeam

[minor moth]

and? if you suck at jbeam its not the fact "oh it doesnt follow json rules " its just that you suck

[inner heart]

?

[minor moth]

if you have any bit of common sense youd realise how its structured from the hundreds of examples on the documentation site

and also using the VSC addon

[inner heart]

im simply saying that the plugin should flag insane syntax as ab-normal, even if the game accept them

[minor moth]

i dont see the point of making jbeam follow stricter json rules because it would just break the thousands of mods out there

[inner heart]

insame jbeam is not a skill, its a curse we deal with

[minor moth]

why should it if the game doesnt care

[inner heart]

because its insane

[minor moth]

it would just confuse people lmao

[inner heart]

i had a jbeam file, that had insane jbeam syntax

that works before an update, and stopped working after

[minor moth]

just because its based on json doesnt mean it has to follow json rules

[inner heart]

and i made its syntax sane, and it works again

[minor moth]

did it use a system that got updated?

[inner heart]

its slot

[minor moth]

idk how that works but i did notice slots got a lot more strange in the way you search them in parts selector ngl

[inner heart]

i dont care how many time i was told "it works" insane syntax is insane syntax and it shouldnt be normalized and it isnt a skill set to be able to cope with insane syntax

i doubt beamng devs likes dealing with maintain what cursed syntax it has been supporting, and cant support anymore to optimize/add feature

just be sane, its good for everyone

[minor moth]

well by now changing shit in the syntax would break so much

like there is no point by now

[inner heart]

im not saying the game should stop supporting cursed syntax, im asking for cursed syntax to be highlighted, so if a cursed syntax is nolonger supported for technical reason, theres a minimal chance ppl left it in thinking the syntax was fine

[tacit halo]

but how can you do that if its syntactically correct

as ugly as some code can be, if its within the rules, its pretty subjective on whats bad or whats good

[inner heart]

i wont consider missing comma a subjective opnion

[tacit halo]

if it works it works

[inner heart]

right into chaotic evil thank you very much

[tacit halo]

and some dev code has those missing comas and the game doesnt give a flying fuck

and if they change it it would break a bunch of shit so they are not gonna change it

[inner heart]

and my point is, it works doesnt mean its how things should be

so just give it a highlighting in the plugin as syntax highlighting

[tacit halo]

it should be however it works

if it works then its fine

[inner heart]

fine != sane

[tacit halo]

as ugly or "wrong" it may be

[tacit halo]

sanity is a very subjective thing

if jbeam supports the missing commas its because someone made it work that way
meaning they think its fine

[inner heart]

"they think its fine" there exist a thing called compromises

[tacit halo]

if they didnt like it they would enforce the having to have commas rule and not making it optional

[inner heart]

then too many things break

[tacit halo]

exactly

[inner heart]

so its called a compromise

[tacit halo]

so its just gonna stay like that and both methods are supported

[inner heart]

not it should be the way

[tacit halo]

but who are you to say that it is a compromise or not

maybe its just intended like that

[inner heart]

what a crazy world i live in where cursed syntax is considered fine

[tacit halo]

whats cursed about it

wow a missing comma on the last line
Im going to fucking die!!!

[inner heart]

what

im talking about missing comma in the middle

[tacit halo]

oh i forgot you could do that

yeah that wasnt supported a while ago

i think at least

probably i just sucked at writing any sort of good syntax

[inner heart]

your strictest json rules would say that there cant be trailing comma

but theres many json syntax that just deal with trailing comma and comment

but even then trailing comma is highlighted with yellow

[tacit halo]

yeah but in jbeam you are supposed to have commas everywhere

apart from this one here

[inner heart]

jbeam is really modified json

[inner heart]

thats trailing comma

you dont need trailing comma

you dont need to intentionally add that trailing comma

[tacit halo]

are you talking about the pink parentehsis or the yellow one

[inner heart]

the comma

,

[tacit halo]

yeah you are supposed to have that

[inner heart]

that one isnt needed

[tacit halo]

in all but that last yellow parenthesis

no, jbeam sintax has it in all its examples

its not necesary but thats the intnded way

and i mean
thats just modified vanilla engine code

[inner heart]

interesting

i cant comment on it being intentional

i doubt it is

more likely its because the copy pasted stuff included the comma since they were from the middle, and the comma were just left there

[tacit halo]

json:

{
  {
    blah,
    blah
  },
  {
    blah,
    blah
  }
}

jbeam:

{
  {
    blah,
    blah,
  },
  {
    blah,
    blah,
  },
}

[tacit halo]

no trust me every single jbeam ive looked at has it

[inner heart]

or we dont really care if it has trailing comma or not

[tacit halo]

yes exactly
but since all developer code has it, even if not a necesity, just put the comma

[inner heart]

dont need to

trailing comma is actually added complexity

[inner heart]

for a parser

[tacit halo]

beautiful code right here

[inner heart]

trailing comma support isnt out off box, theres many language happily complain at you for trailing comma

that deserve to get flagged

[tacit halo]

json does

[tacit halo]

what deserves to be flagged there?

[tacit halo]

no shit i did that on purpose

[inner heart]

missing middle comma

wrong reply

[tacit halo]

oh that yeah i was looking the text not the bracket

idk i just deleted a bunch of random commas

[inner heart]

... maybe it is easier to just tell ppl to add comma everywhere

[tacit halo]

i dont know when it became a feature but that would break your code a while ago

[inner heart]

trailing comma is an easier problem to solve then missing comma

[tacit halo]

a lot of people (before any good syntax highlighter was common) would forget it and spend hours for a single mising comma, so i assume they did that so that isnt a problem anymore

[inner heart]

likely

[tacit halo]

no not likely, it happened a lot
to me and to others

[inner heart]

but then ppl could have just used your standard json syntax highlighting

[tacit halo]

no because that flagged the trailing commas so it was easy to miss things that actually were wrong

[inner heart]

oh

use the "json with comments" syntax

[tacit halo]

that one also did that iirc

[inner heart]

that only mark trailing comma yellow

where red highlight is the real bad/curse ones that u might want to deal with

[tacit halo]

nah that one i used i remmeber
it also flagged other stuff with red which wasnt actually an issue

[inner heart]

missing middle comma like this?

[tacit halo]

probably

[inner heart]

and these

[tacit halo]

yeah those too

[inner heart]

yeah those are the missing middle comma

no json parser would like that

except for beamng's json parser

[tacit halo]

which is pretty modified

[inner heart]

to deal with cursed things like that yeah

appearently they also have extra middle comma

and the game just suck it up

oh well that thing do whatever they want, but missing/extra middle comma deserves a highlight, a yellow highlight

and other cursed syntax i remember seeing from vanilla jbeam files but cant remember where

[tacit halo]

pro gaming code

and it works

[broken mica]

can anyone help me texture a part?

[lilac beacon]

Forgot how to bake normals, etc. for custom trunk lettering.

I know, a skill issue, kind of, but could somebody help me?

[scarlet cedar]

I used smartnormap using the baked color textures

[calm kernel]

how do i add already existing texture to bumper i imported from other car

i want the textures it normaly uses on this bumper

[broken mica]

i have the same problem

[calm kernel]

already did this

i have no idea how to work with materials, and can't find any good tutorials

[lilac beacon]

Without the "smartnormap", but I'm almost there with baking. Do you know maybe how to get rid of these pixelated sharp edges?

[scarlet cedar]

i forgot the exact name, but when u click on n after uve baked a texture on the uv map window u can find a menu. There u can see a few more menus, then u can click around til u see something called "mipmap" or something that relates to jaggedness

im sorry its very vague lmao

[drowsy vault]

anyone know what shiftEfficiency does for the automatic transmission since there is no explanation for it

[lilac beacon]

umm

Where did the "Metalic" go?

[scarlet cedar]

glossy

[lilac beacon]

Thanks

[minor moth]

iirc thats not metallic

[scarlet cedar]

its not?

[minor moth]

yea i think glossy is diffuse+ rough and metallic

[scarlet cedar]

ah

makes sense

[lilac beacon]

uuuhh

Yeah, it doesn't look like metalic map actually.

[minor moth]

https://youtu.be/sOvRr_D8ZpU

useful toutorial

[scarlet cedar]

i see

[lilac beacon]

Thanks @minor moth
(I got a bot command, let's see what it does)

[minor moth]

womp

[toxic widget]

baconzez: 17 Reputation (#129)

[minor moth]

ril

[mystic scarab]

Car flips every time i hit "insert". I guess it has something to do with refnodes; anyone got the same issue fixed?

Flips in forward-backward direction*

[calm sinew]

I'm quite new to modding, and I'm having trouble getting my blender map into beamng, could someone explain to me how to do it, or recommend a tutorial for it?

[mystic scarab]

I started to watch this, but I'm not quite map modder and i can't tell if its any good. there's a playlist of those.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29o6vAqw_Y&list=PLcVe50VACZvnhMDFBUQ469eZwBANwGOpU&index=3

[calm sinew]

ye but I made it in blender, not the beam editor, because I want to convert it into assetto corsa as well

[drowsy vault]

found this in vehicleController.lua , this function isnt talked about anywhere and i wonder does it even work and what does it do

[calm kernel]

Can someone please tell me/link me a tutorial on how to properly uv unwrap stuff in blender, cus i want a custom bumper to work with skins and stuff but it doesn't uvunwrap coreectly

[urban talon]

Hi

I need help

i made few rims but i need someone to make jbeam coding bec idk know how

[calm kernel]

Making them appear ingame or jbeaming the wheels? Cus i can edit the jbeam file for you tomorrow

[urban talon]

ok np i can send u the files

[calm kernel]

But is it just making them appear ingame?

[urban talon]

i need them in car

driving

or just static object

[calm venture]

I want to make an enclosed stacker car hauler with a vertical lift, but I have no idea on how to start. How I do start a project like this for beamng?

[echo cedar]

how to fix these weird deform effection

in jbeam

[tepid nymph]

I think the smart parking brake is when you drive and press the parking brake button the parking brake releases when you don’t press the button anymore

[drowsy vault]

definetly not that since thats already a game function

[tepid nymph]

But for every function there’s Lua somewhere
Is the vehicle controller you had in a mod or is it in the game files?

[drowsy vault]

game files , and it clearly says its disabled unless defined in a jbeam if you understand lua

[inner heart]

its set to true if its not defined, else use the jbeam value

so, its enabled by default

unless specificly disabled

[lilac beacon]

I tried to follow it step by step, but I don't know what exactly is the order of these videos and he seems very un-prepared for recording a video.

[ionic bridge]

How do I import road decals from other maps so they actually show up in the decal material picker?

[mystic scarab]

Oh, not okay
If you will find a nice tutorial can you please share

[lilac beacon]

I'm bad at searching for some reason...
I tried to.

[rocky breach]

Either it’s an issue with the model, or the jbeam.

[dark finch]

just looking to lift my truck mod, but i cant see a value to change in the leaf spring jbeam file

anyone know which value it is?

[echo cedar]

so how to reduce these spikes

😢im poor in modeling

[rocky breach]

Could you show the polyflow?

[inner heart]

u would want to check how other leaf springs does it, specificly, what beam needs the precompresion stuff, since u basicly need to pre-compress the leaf spring so it lift the truck up when spawned in

[echo cedar]

just normal bx

i think theres sth wrong with jbeam cus i swapped some pessima nodes

[minor moth]

thats not jbeam

[minor moth]

yeah some parts look a bit too dense

and why is it triangulated

[river shard]

vehicles from beamng are triangulated

[minor moth]

yes but at least take the time to untriangulate them before

since modelling with tris is bad practice

[river shard]

yeah, its literally one button in blender

although its not 100% accurate

[minor moth]

yea i prefer manual

since blender tends to do weird shit on curved surfaces

[echo cedar]

alr i will try that

[golden urchin]

how does jbeam work?

with the nodes

[calm kernel]

What are you making 👀 (i love the bx and jbx)

[hybrid dune]

nodes are weight and collision.

Beams are springs.

triangles are for collision with other vehicles and aerodynamics

[golden urchin]

so engine models dont need triangles?

[inner heart]

triangles in jbeam is not the triangles in modeling

[golden urchin]

ill just look up a tutorial

[mystic scarab]

As far as i remember, engine needs to be an enclosed volume, so you need at least 8 nodes (cube) which will be enclosed volume with tris, this is how engine integrity and collision is checked in beam

I can show you basic example if you need, DM me

[hybrid dune]

looks like you havent marked any sharp edges

Go to edit mode press 2 on your keyboard to go to edges and select your "sharp edge" press ctrl E then mark sharp

[lunar beacon]

How can I fix this weird velecity?

[echo cedar]

a bx sedan

[calm kernel]

awesomesauce

[river shard]

Lol I'm not joking I started making that as well, good luck to you 👍

[ionic bridge]

Is there a way to connect road meshes so i can make good junctions?

[lilac beacon]

Any idea how can I fill this area?

[drowsy vault]

slowly learning lua, is this a correct way to check if ignition is on or off?:
if electrics.values.ignition == true then

[rocky breach]

slow down

[river sentinel]

Hello, I have a quick question. Under what file name is the autobello stambecco in, so I can import it into blender?

[mystic scarab]

midtruck.zip is what you're looking for

[river sentinel]

Thanks

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Gave +1 Reputation to @mystic scarab (current: #225 - 8)

[dry cargo]

Hi guys who can please learn me how to convert a dae file to a dts file

[sullen turret]

u need torque 3d i’m pretty sure

[dry cargo]

I tried using it but it wouldnt even import dae to extract as dts

[mystic scarab]

I'm interested why you need a dts. This is some stuff for map modding?

[shut pollen]

presumably to make it harder for people to access

[warm sphinx]

Would BeamNg even be able to read a DTS object file? I’ve never tried it but my assumption was that world objects can only be a DAE. Less familiar with cars

[shut pollen]

cached.dts files still work, but with the upcoming engine stuff im not sure that they will keep that functionality

[dry cargo]

I need it to encrypt the model to have some privacy so that no random person can change or take the model for any other thing

[dry cargo]

It works with any dae file you have, but so far, even after I tried torque, it has not succeeded in reading the file, although there are many who convert it to dts and it works, but it seems that I did it wrong

[calm venture]

I want to try and make an enclosed stacker car hauler with a vertical lift, but I have no idea on how to start. How I do I start a project like this for beamng? Especially like a trailer, because I cant find a video on making a trailer for beamng

[inner heart]

have u looked at cdae

should be enough hassle to stop most ppl, and for those who really want to crack ur stuff that they manage to deal with cdae... dang ig u should consider smth on an entirely different scope??

[idle sapphire]

So im looking to reposition the exhaust fumes but im struggling to find where they are located within the jbeams, anyone able to help?

[dry cargo]

I think cdae needs dae, like a lot of people who do this thing, I've never seen anyone use cdae alone

[inner heart]

cdae doesnt require dae along with it

try it, its free to test

[dry cargo]

I don't know if there is anyone who can decrypt or break cdae, but in general I am looking for a strong way to protect the file and I will try cdae alone

[dry cargo]

yes, i will tray

[scarlet cedar]

find the very end of the exhaust jbeam ingame then take note of the node name

[idle sapphire]

i got it, preciate it

[stoic raven]

to anyone who is more knowledgeable than me when it comes to doors be able to tell me whats happening here? the trunk opens then shuts itself right back closed

[shut pollen]

what happens when you flip the car on its roof? does it open further?

[stoic raven]

it opens when its upside down but not right side up

[shut pollen]

weak strength then? looks like the beams cant quite hold the weight up

[stoic raven]

maybe

about to play dirt 3 with some friends ill try again once the racism is over

[tacit halo]

dts is an unsuported format and is just there because of torque3d, its not even allowed on the repo. i wouldnt use it since the devs are taking out t3d stuff so that they only have the stuff they use (beamng is now its own engine essentially) and i imagine that dts is gonna die soon

[spark stone]

What's the name for Ibishu BX files?

[calm kernel]

bx

[minor moth]

you need a gas strut in the moddle

not at the edge

since then it has more leverage

with a gas strut youd aim for only like 50 force opening it and not a long time so it opens smooth

but for it to open try add a gas strut between dd2ll and the closest node on the body to it thats slightly lower

[drowsy vault]

does anyone know how to add buttons that are black because im using add alpha blend mode and black buttons are invisible (white ones work fine)

[stable totem]

hi
can anyone pls send me .zip with a blank map?
I want to create my own map, but can't find any templte 😦

[warm sphinx]

There’s a template map in the base game. There’s also multiple forum posts about “loaded” template maps with a bunch of assets and terrains

[mint flame]

does anyone know how to import terrains into a custom map

[warm sphinx]

My recommendation would be to just make them yourself with the terrain editor. You can pick the materials and all of the textures you want.

Otherwise you may be able to cut and paste certain lines of code from the terrain.terrain file

[mint flame]

i wanted to take terrains from east coast but it just became red when i put them in the game

[warm sphinx]

That’s a no texture issue, you can apply texture in the terrain editor. A main reason the ECUSA textures likely didn’t work is interference with PBR and non PBR materials (I’d recommend making your map non PBR until you are basically done with the map)

[mint flame]

ok thanks

[dry cargo]

does anyone know how beamng switches from DX11 to Vulkan with the different buttons so that I can recreate this?

[stoic raven]

ok i did that and still nothing

it opens further but still shuts back

[minor moth]

reduce open force time to 0.1 and force to 40

remove the bottom beams

and make sure no beams are stiff enough to pull it back down

[stoic raven]

thats how far it opens with no low beams and the settings you said

[minor moth]

increase strut precompression :p

[stoic raven]

still no noticeable change

[stoic raven]

ok i got it working

[stoic raven]

works good to how i wanted it to

[warm sphinx]

Looks amazing! Is it a lore car or a real mini?

[stoic raven]

lore

says it on the plate

[mint flame]

im trying to figure out whats wrong with my asset browser, when i double click on somehting to place it nothing happens

does anyone know whats wrong

[fading galleon]

does anyone know how to bake for my upcoming mod? (ferrari f50)

[warm sphinx]

Send a screenshot of what you’re clicking. Sometimes there’s some non dae files that look like you can interact with em but you can’t

[mint flame]

its opening them in the inspector but i cant seem to find them in the game anywhere

[mint flame]

oh wait i need to be clicking on the .dae files insted od the .cdae

thanks

[warm sphinx]

Yert. No worries

[drowsy vault]

hello everyone i wanted to ask, does anyone know how i would connect the front halfshafts directly to the front hubs from the transmission , im not sure if this is the correct way to do this but the audi rs7 c8 does not have a front differential so im not sure how to do this correctly (it might have a front differential built in the transmission but i cant find any info)

[inner heart]

do u meant the real thing dont have a front differential? cause nope it looks like it does have a front driveshaft that goes to somewhere (like a front diff?)

[summer vault]

it definitely would have a diff of some sort there
transaxle sort of thing

[shut pollen]

the hood works just fine without the mesh?

i dont think vert count is relevant for this sort of crashing, you can have huge numbers before you would totally crash. maybe something funky in the model data, did it come from the same source as the rest of the models?

a different source wont cause issues, but different standards of models might mean something inside that mesh doesnt play nice

does it crash when exported into its own .dae and not the main one?

[minor moth]

:3

maybe the mesh is corrupt

check the game crashdumps

[shut pollen]

would probably be the explanation

[minor moth]

it should tell you what went wrong last

tbh im not sure theyre somewhere in the userfolder

[shut pollen]

doubt it would be that obvious, usually games will just mention what loaded last and you figure it out from there

that would be the relevant part of the log, yeah

[minor moth]

the name has a % sign

and -

you cant use those

rename it to like bonnet_high_mesh

[shut pollen]

do you have a mesh called bonnet_high?

broken mesh data then, i think?

well, you have to fix the mesh data, and that is out of my area of expertise. not sure what part of it is broken. could probably sit here until we knock it over but that might be a long time lmao

[drowsy vault]

i mean it looks like it but i searched everywhere and theres no actual proof of it having a front diff

i would like to say that it does but i want it to be proven so i can be sure

[drowsy vault]

found some diagrams

[summer vault]

how would the car work without a front diff buddy

[drowsy vault]

magic

[inner heart]

...
okay i guess it doesnt have a front differential, its likely powered with magic

or use common sense and put a front diff in it

or the vehicle in question is a rear wheel drive

[summer vault]

if you just google it it says the zf box used in the rs7 has both the front and centre diffs built into it

[drowsy vault]

sorry im stupid 👍

[inner heart]

thats interesting

i almost thought it shouldnt line up

but i look at that pic i sent and it does

[drowsy vault]

i actually did see this pic before but didnt think anything of it

[shut pollen]

the bad mesh data probably got dropped somewhere between all of the exporting and reimporting. good to hear you got it sorted

[drowsy vault]

now i gotta find out what type of differential it is 😔

for the rear ik its torque vectoring and i already got all that sorted out but for the front idk

[inner heart]

ig u can just ask the transmission

[drowsy vault]

ok very helpful

[inner heart]

genuenly, if its built into the gearbox, its more likely u find stat of it along with the gearbox

well, the gearbox assembly

[drowsy vault]

well according to some vids i watched the front always gives same power to both wheels

[summer vault]

its could likely just be like an open e diff then with like brake torque vectoring like on the bastion but idk fr just scour through google and random audi owner forums posts

[drowsy vault]

since it is the latest version of quattro im pretty sure its an open diff with EDL

yeah its correct

[stable totem]

Guys
can someone explain me pls
I imported .dae 3dmodel, but it doesn't appear in asset browser of the world editor. Though it has created a main.materials.json for this .dae
Refreshing directories and assets, regenerating asset data doesn't do anything
What am I doing wrong?

[cunning birch]

hey guys, I'm having problems with my map, only the night sky skybox is showing, not the daytime skybox. This happened since a few updates ago

[mystic scarab]

Front diff is right there in your pic bro

So this enlarged part of the case is the diff case

Or you already figured it out in discussion?...

[mystic scarab]

This part roughly looks like some torsen stuff, but i am not sure

[drowsy vault]

the front diff is a open diff

but it does have a center torsen diff which i already have setup

[mystic scarab]

Oh

Okay, i finally read discussion above 😅 Open diff with EDL

[drowsy vault]

forgot to say thanks to everyone who helped lol

i had the pics saved but had no idea what i was looking at

[mystic scarab]

^my exact thoughts when I see some complicated multilink suspension

[drowsy vault]

yea same

but mistakes teach you so yeah

[mystic scarab]

When I first saw Honda Clarity rear multilink, I didn't understand anything
Now I look at it and don't understand kinematics either

[minor moth]

vivace has mulktilink

doesnt look like this but its still multilink iirc

ots on the FPV and its called independent wide suspension

[mystic scarab]

Multilink is the most diverse type of suspensions and can be crazy different by design.
However, I'm a double wishbone fan...

[minor moth]

torsionbeam

[mystic scarab]

By the way, torsionbeams and torsionHydros
You had some business with them?
Can't get torsionHydro to work as steering link
I checked in with Stambecco jbeams and everything looks veeery similar, should work
But it does not...

[minor moth]

is your steering rail set up properly

and are the nodes aligned on the specified rail

generally rx5r and rx5l or similar have a beam between, then 2 nodes like rx6r and rx6l have a beam in between themself, and they slide along the 2 rx5 nodes beam

and the have a hydro from rx5r to rx6r and vice versa

iirc thats how steering generally works

[mystic scarab]

you are getting it wrong my dude

[minor moth]

and well a node going to the hub

[minor moth]

which part? the location of the hydros?

[minor moth]

and what car is this for

if stambecco looks similar use it

[mystic scarab]

There are two basic steering systems in BeamNG
The one being steering rack, the one you describe, made with the rails/slidenodes and hydros
And steering link, made with torsionHydros, which act like a torsionBeams, but change angle on-demand (not length)

[minor moth]

and what youre tring to make is a steering link?

hm lemme look at stambecco suspension rq

[mystic scarab]

I need the steering link (for a kart, because kart obviously isn't a hydraulic steering)
Stambecco has a steering link too

[minor moth]

whats stambeccos internal name

[mystic scarab]

But I'm not sure which part i got wrong, because in Stambecco it works flawlessly, and in my kart it is not 🙂

(i already did the steering rack and so on, but if i can get torsionHydro to work i'll go back anytime)

[mystic scarab]

midtruck

[minor moth]

the size difference between a kart and the stambecco is probably huge

try calculate the scale difference of the 2 suspensions and reduce the hydro values by that amount maybe?

[mystic scarab]

Well, the beam lengths in front steering is not THAT huge
Maybe kart is 2/3 of Stambecco or so

[minor moth]

is the track about 2/3 of stambecco too?

[mystic scarab]

It's the vertical plane where differences are big - hubs, suspension links not related to steering, etc

50% and more

[mystic scarab]

Hm, let me check

[minor moth]

wait so basically its st6 that pushes fh1 by rotating along with st4 and 5 as its rotation axis?

and then the goofy other triangle is the one actually doing the hydro stuff?

[mystic scarab]

I'm still loading bng
As far as i remember Stambecco steering is 2 torsionhydros complementing each other

Or wait

[minor moth]

what in the fuck is this lmao

thats so goofy but yeah i think i understand

i think theres actually a way for you to do something similar

[mystic scarab]

I'm not sure if i'm correct in showing the way it moves

[minor moth]

if its a go kart you can just have rigid links sontrolled by a swiveling beam that theyre attached to (like some irl go karts)

lemme draw it up rq what i mean

[mystic scarab]

Kart to Stambecco comparison
Not super big of a difference

Here's Stambecco steering and definition

[minor moth]

blue are standard nodes, so generic nodes that have collision, purple is the node youll use as a hinge poiint for the brown beam, thac can swing on the axis of the purple node, the green nodes are non collidables with hydros going over to the middle rack node that you can give a rail to between the orange nodes, and the purple beams are hydros you can use to control the pivot

basically a very grossly oversimlified version of stambecco with very few actually rotating parts

and put the green nodes slightly above the top edge of the front tires

the orange inline with the 2 steering rods and blue in the center of them

and about the same height as the link on the hub

purple slightly above so the beam is a bit longer and let brown be expandable (bounded might work) but not flex

as long as the blue node the brown beam rotates stays snapped to rail it shouldnt invert i suppose?

[mystic scarab]

I got steering on kart

With regular hydros

[minor moth]

well there goes my idea to bin

[mystic scarab]

But not with torsionHydros...

because they don't work and i have no idea why

[minor moth]

average day with jbeam

[mystic scarab]

That's the whole point of conversation 🙂
It's not like "steering not working" or "i cannot design it", it's "torsionHydro refuse to work on kart and idk why" 😄

[minor moth]

real

[mystic scarab]

"but it works on Stambecco goddammit"

[minor moth]

i might actually try my idea for shits and giggles if i get time

wonder if itd actually work

irl gokarts do the same thing but its just not snapped to rail

anyway glad it steers now

[mystic scarab]

Well here you can see how it is intended to work

[mystic scarab]

So this is why i draw the scheme above 😄

But it's possible i get torsionHydros plane of movement wrong
BUT it does NOT explain why they don't move at all

[mystic scarab]

^ this

Also from past experience, I guess it should be the dumbest mistake possible ever, or the most counterintuitive way of how it should work, no third way

I was really puzzled by another thing few days ago, and after killing ~2 hours on figuring it out and getting answer from a person who knows, I was extremely frustrated

Example: you see usage as this:

        ["func", "mesh", "idRef:", "idX:", "idY:", "baseRotation", "rotation", "translation", "min", "max", "offset", "multiplier"],
        ["steering", "steer_01a", "fru2r", "fru2l", "fru4r", {"x":45, "y":0, "z":0}, {"x":0, "y":0, "z":1}, {"x":0, "y":0, "z":0}, -1000, 1000, 0, 1],
    ],```

[minor moth]

thats wgat i drew up lmao

[minor moth]

yea steering wheel

you have to have 3 nodes as ref

[mystic scarab]

You go to docs and see this:

[minor moth]

oh prop translation has been fucked for ages

[mystic scarab]

So the logical (for me) way is to add "baseTranslation" to header and use same dictionary pattern as "baseRotation".

Right? Right?...

[minor moth]

unless they fixed it idk

[mystic scarab]

No, because screw you! You use it like that:
{"baseTranslation":{"x":0.197,"y":-0.02, "z":0.02}}

In properties without changes to header

[minor moth]

yeah thats how you always use a variable for coords?

if theres a variable it has to be locked off in brackets

and its values if multiple too if it only had one sure use ""

[mystic scarab]

I thought it'd be:

        ["func" .......      "baseRotation",           "baseTranslation", ........],
        ["steering",........ {"x":0, "y":0, "z":1}, {"x":0, "y":0, "z":0}, .......],
    ],```

[minor moth]

no lmao

that makes some sense sure but no

[mystic scarab]

Instead:

       ["func", ......., "baseRotation", ..........],
       ["steering", ...., {"x":0, "y":0, "z":1},..... {"baseTranslation":{"x":0.197,"y":-0.02, "z":0.02}}],
   ],```

[mystic scarab]

That is what BeamNG doc implies - both optional values with absolutely same properties except for measurement units ofc (eulers vs meters)

Props are so cursed

I have a mod which is basically gauges with needles
needles and gauges, gauges and needles
I had some pain with it and still it wasn't that bad

Offtopic: i accidentally almost passed under Stambecco in kart lol

[cunning birch]

is there some sort of debug where I can read error messages when the game cant load a map?

I make changes to my map, any change, however small, and I cannot load the map afterwards.

I'm trying to fix Leap of Death, but any change I make, makes the level unable to load.

[drowsy vault]

i tried to make interior lightning but its always outside of the car , in the interior everything looks fine

[heavy swift]

Using light props? Have you tried fitting the light cookie to the car interior only using the debugger? You probably wont get away with no bleed at all though.

[drowsy vault]

yea light props

maybe theres a better way to do it? not sure

i mean i know i can bake everything but that would add like 50 more textures

it would look like 100 times better but not worth the performance hit

[cunning birch]

I've got a peculiar problem, the level editor deletes all files from the /main folder upon saving the level after doing changes. Including the items.level.json file and the /main/missiongroup folder. Does the game save the level files somewhere else? The level files are currently located in C:\Users***\AppData\Local\BeamNG.drive\0.32\levels\leap-of-death\main

or does the game save edited level files in the steam game folder?

[minor moth]

why light props?

unless you want shadows cast you can use emmisives

[drowsy vault]

you mean a texture?

[minor moth]

use the null textures from common and use a null texture for emmision

and then just set the colour you want, it has to be v1.5 material tho

[drowsy vault]

but i need shadows tho

[drowsy vault]

and also the light im trying to make it wont even work with a texture

since its hidden away from your view but with props u can make the illusion that there is a light

[minor moth]

idk then

[summer vault]

bake ambient lighting to interior texture and set to glowmap 👍

[drowsy vault]

.

[summer vault]

if you already have like 50 textures just for the interior im not sure how much of a performance hit there would be other than taking up more disk space
because youd just be doing a material override not like theyd both be used at the same time but idk what the performance implications of that would be

tho having like 50 textures is already a problem lol

[heavy swift]

Dont cast shadows, thats absolutely terrible for performance. Also, lower the light range. Use the debugger.

Youll find it at: #modding-general message

That should help you adjust the light to your liking.

[drowsy vault]

i already did move all my props lol

my problem is theyre just glowing outside of the car

[heavy swift]

Then decrease their length and the width of them so that they stay where they're supposed to be.

Also, I suppose we can just come out and say that Beam's lighting and shadow maps are terrible.

[drowsy vault]

yeah this is true

they should add atleast a simple thing where the lights dont clip

[blazing jetty]

If you have the map in your mods folder, only the changes are saved in the mentioned levels folder in the userfolder. So you would have to copy over the changes to the unzipped original map. I normally unzip the maps I want to work on to the levels folder and delete the original one from the mods folder.

[cunning birch]

the only thing that's in the mods folder is this BeamNG.drive\0.32\mods\unpacked\Leap_Of_Death\mod_info\ME9V3UJ2D, with a info.json and an Icon.jpg. Nothing else, neither before or after a save.

[cunning birch]

Could this have anything to do with it?:
"11276.97329|I|GELua.editor_main.editor| Saving level: /levels/leap-of-death/main
11277.00061|I|GELua.editor_main.editor| Copying directory '/levels/leap-of-death/__main' to '/levels/leap-of-death/main'...
11277.03242|W|GELua.core_levels.| info.json missing: /levels/GridMap/info.json
11277.03316|E|GELua.core_levels.| No entry point for level found: /levels/GridMap. Ignoring level.
11277.06340|I|engine::ResourceManager::reloadResource| File changed [/levels/leap-of-death/main.decals.json]
11384.22823|W|GELua.core_levels.| info.json missing: /levels/GridMap/info.json
11384.22887|E|GELua.core_levels.| No entry point for level found: /levels/GridMap. Ignoring level.
11384.26101|W|GELua.core_levels.| info.json missing: /levels/GridMap/info.json
11384.26161|E|GELua.core_levels.| No entry point for level found: /levels/GridMap. Ignoring level.
11399.20777|I|GELua.editor_main.editor| Deactivating editor..."

[cunning birch]

funny thing is, I cannot for the life of me find any references to GridMap in any JSON files my map folder. None.

[gentle fox]

Did you start with gridmap as a base for your map? Might have sth to do with that

[cunning birch]

I've maybe used Gridmap assets or textures some time ago, but that is years ago. This wasn't a problem until 0.32 came out though.

[stone glacier]

working on a hybrid car and could like to know if someone can help me edit/add drivemodes that turn the engine off or limit boost preasure lmk.

[heady trail]

The gridmap errors just mean that it doesnt have a spawnpoint

Happens when the levels are validated

It's not something you're responsible for

[cunning birch]

The map has two spawnpoints.

[heady trail]

The gridmap?

[cunning birch]

No, the map I'm trying to work on, that's what I'm trying to fix, it deletes the entire contents of the /main folder when saving in the level editor. what I pasted is from the beamng.log when I tried to save the level after making changes.

It's the Leap Of Death map.

[quaint hatch]

Sorry but where do I need to write my scenetreefoldername?

[calm kernel]

how do i make this not have a jbeam but still function, or how can i move it with the jbeam?

[golden urchin]

how do i make materials?

[calm kernel]

open world editor and press material editor and then press new material, call it something, and name the object you want to have that material the same material name in blender

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6sYzQIY_8 basicaly this

[golden urchin]

is it any different for engines?

[calm kernel]

no idea

[minor moth]

cant

[calm kernel]

a

[gentle fox]

What do you need that for? If collisions are the issue then you can just make the nodes have none

[calm kernel]

i want to put it here

[gentle fox]

Oh, you could just use node offset or move the nodes

[stable totem]

Hi
Can anyone explain me what .ter file is and what is it doing to terrain in a level?

[calm kernel]

ill move them with blender, and then make it connected to different nodes

[gentle fox]

Yeah that should work, otherwise just use node offset, its not really properly but it should work fine

[calm kernel]

also, is there any way to change the colour of the light?

[golden urchin]

its probably in the files as a rgb or smth

id recommend also changing the texture color

[gentle fox]

Yes, that is possible in jbeam, but as @golden urchin said, its recommended to also change the texture.

Refer to this for the light props:
#modding-general message

[golden urchin]

make sure to copy the color value so it isnt mismatched

[golden urchin]

it is either the textures or the terrain shape

[dark finch]

having trouble with making some offroad suspension, what value needs changing when making leaf springs make the car sit higher

[golden urchin]

how do i export a jbeam for an engine mod? (from blender)

[dark finch]

do you have the jbeam editor addon?

[golden urchin]

yes

[dark finch]

just go to export and it should be at the bottom

[golden urchin]

jbeam is the collision right?

[dark finch]

ye

[golden urchin]

so i can also make a box frame thing around without faces and make that the collision?

[inner heart]

theres multiple ways a leaf spring is implemented in the game, do u know which vehicle ur leaf spring come from atleast?

[inner heart]

"also"?

[golden urchin]

im new to this ok?

[dark finch]

yeah its the miramar

[inner heart]

hi
i did not to intend to insult or mock your skill set in beamng modding in any way shape or form
im simply confused by the word "also", since what you described in the "also" is THE intended and almost sole purpose of the plugin, therefore you might have use the plugin for something it is likely not meant to be used
have a nice day
-please pick a name

[inner heart]

uh lemme checkand see if i understand it

but in short there would be a single (or a few?) beams that responsible for the "spring"

[dark finch]

ive just aimlessly changing the precompression values and each one either does nothing or just breaks it

[inner heart]

so precompress those few beam with some certain value and it should do it

[golden urchin]

how can i make that collision apply to the engine?

[quick axle]

make a simple jbeam around it and give it some coltris

[golden urchin]

how much triangles?

[golden urchin]

this enough?

[minor moth]

it needs to be a cube

[gentle fox]

Its way easier to take an existing engines jbeam and modifying it to your needs, for example here the one from the semi

[minor moth]

with 2 mount nodes and an exhaust

[gentle fox]

(Could also be more afaik but not needed)

[minor moth]

so 4 engine block shape nodes, 2 mounts and one exhaust

[golden urchin]

how do those differ?

[gentle fox]

You dont need triangles you need to attach the beams to each other and make the nodes collidable

[golden urchin]

he said coltris (triangles)

[inner heart]

did it

so leaf structure beams needs to be extended with precompression with value greater then 1, my example used 1.1

[gentle fox]

Its mostly in the jbeam that, as far as i remember, you cant modify in the blender editor

[inner heart]

leaf spring have a precompression of 0.67

[golden urchin]

can the jbeam be in the same model as engine?

[gentle fox]

I use the blender plugin just for positioning and edit the "code" manually

[gentle fox]

Way too many nodes

[golden urchin]

so separate

[inner heart]

the leaf struct needs a "beamPrecompressionTime":0.2 also since its quite violent

[gentle fox]

Yes

And for the engine to work the jbeam "code" needs to be edited a lot if you try to make it from scratch which is very much work just fiy

[inner heart]

oh, and the shock absorber needs to be extended also

i just removed them here

[golden urchin]

like so?

[dark finch]

ohhhhhhhh

[gentle fox]

Yeah

[dark finch]

ive got it now

[dark finch]

thannks for the help bro

[golden urchin]

i used bus engine code (its for the bus)

[inner heart]

np, it was interesting to figure out

the fact ur limited by the length of the leaf

[gentle fox]

👍🏼 try taking a look at the bus engines jbeam box and check if its similar

[golden urchin]

otherwise use that?

[gentle fox]

You dont need to but you can

[golden urchin]

thanks for your expert opinion

[gentle fox]

Np

[inner heart]

there might also be more bounds u need to extend but idk, it still feels funny, but gud luck ig

[calm kernel]

@gentle fox do you know how to easily create those diagonal jbeam/blender vertices?

[golden urchin]

what is this kind of engine jbeam?

[minor moth]

what

[calm kernel]

what is blud doing with tango jato?

[golden urchin]

tango is a dance right?

[minor moth]

rea;

yeah but also a car

[calm kernel]

twingo for beamng

[minor moth]

real

inputmaps fuckd

[golden urchin]

your mod or someone elses mod?

[minor moth]

mine

[golden urchin]

car looks good

[minor moth]

wip and im putting jatos on it but the inputmap doesnt work

[golden urchin]

why is the jbeam so small and why is it this weird shape?

[minor moth]

its not weird

and what engine is that

[golden urchin]

wentward

[calm kernel]

me when the

[golden urchin]

is there someone who can help me?

[golden urchin]

@gentle fox so it does need triangles?

[golden urchin]

connect corners

[calm kernel]

yeah but how do i do that without going over every single one

[golden urchin]

how big is your jbeam?

doesnt quite fit into a wentward i think

[golden urchin]

it is 19.1L 💀

[gentle fox]

Is the double underscore and single at the back a typo or normal?

[gentle fox]

No, sry im not a big blender pro

[calm kernel]

ill recolour it soon, now working on custom exhuasts

[minor moth]

its the game that does that

[gentle fox]

Well it needs triangles if you need stuff like aero and such, so im not sure 😅

[minor moth]

collision

[gentle fox]

Oh okay

[minor moth]

mainly for collision between the nodes

since beams dont collide with anything

[golden urchin]

idk if it will even work since its too long 😐

[gentle fox]

True, but for the smaller engines its not as important i guess

[minor moth]

still is

[gentle fox]

Try looking at the semi engine and maybe enlarging that one

[golden urchin]

i cant bc blender doesnt load it

[gentle fox]

Maybe i just remember it wrong but i just dont remember the etk k series or the scintilla having triangles 😅

[gentle fox]

Weird

[golden urchin]

and another issue is the exhaust being on the wrong side (as far as i know)

[gentle fox]

Thats an easy fix, just flip it

[golden urchin]

then the flywheel is on the worng side

[gentle fox]

You can just flip the exhaust nodes or change the "isExhaust" part to a different node

[golden urchin]

i get that, but then the engine is still 2 times longer.

ill size it down maybe that helps

now its half the length

i could change some things and put it in the T-series

[gentle fox]

Well it does look more like a semi engine than like a bus engine

[golden urchin]

the engine is from a tank

its a derivative of the russian kharkiv v-2

the engine i made is the kharkiv v-6 which is half of the v-2 which is a v12. i cant find a lot of images unfortunately

[gentle fox]

Oh okay, so that explains the enormous size

[tacit halo]

how is that not exploding

that must be unstable

[golden urchin]

i can scale it but it wont be as tall

[golden urchin]

if i make the model same size i can use original jbeam?

[mystic scarab]

I'm a bit stuck with refnodes.
Setting up usual order ["ref:", "back:", "left:", "up:", "leftCorner:", "rightCorner:"] flips vehicle backwards every respawn. Setting "back:" node to some forward node spawns it correctly, but camera obviously gets messed up. Where am i wrong?

[golden urchin]

the kharkiv v-2 is a 38.8L V12 diesel still used today in russian tanks

[mystic scarab]

I think it'd be more correct to call it "soviet V-2 engine", since it is not being produced in Kharkiv anymore, and Kharkiv is no longer soviet or russian 🙂

[worn shale]

Is there a way to modify the driver cam with lua during runtime? I tried to overwrite the camera data in the vehicle object but that does not seem to do anything.

[mystic scarab]

Maybe look into "Enhanced Camera Chase" mod? This may give you some ideas i guess.

[worn shale]

Thanks, I'll take a look at it.

[gentle fox]

Well you can scale the jbeam in any direction, that is more what i meant, not really scaling the engine mesh

[golden urchin]

i fixed it another way, i knew my model was longer than it is in real life but didnt want to fix it. now i chose to fix it and i am almost done.

[golden urchin]

i think they are called transmash v-2 nowadays

but since my V-6 engine isnt in production anymore (as far as i know) i prefer using the soviet names

[upbeat elbow]

Hello I'm trying to make a map and I added a custom mesh made by myself and the colMesh and all the stuff like a vanilla mesh and the colmesh it show in the shape editor but it doesn't work why ?

[golden urchin]

the engine wont fit then

[gentle fox]

Well yeah, true. It might need some modification of the vehicle you want to put it into

(If you want to make it realistic)

[golden urchin]

how do i make wires in blender?

[golden urchin]

its fine now

[gilded lark]

Can anyone explain a fix? Ive messed with node weights, damp, etc and its still shaking

https://youtu.be/9zEXzSQ_dmQ?si=v7sVscRWC52LNsJO

[heavy swift]

I cant even see whats supposed to be shaking. I see your drivetrain oscillates, maybe thats the cause.

[gilded lark]

Its in the trunk

Up your video quality

[golden urchin]

found out how to do it : P

[thorny rune]

thought this was a straight 8 for a second 😞

[golden urchin]

its a I6 diesel from a tank, a straight 8 is a cool idea for a mod. maybe in the burnside.

[inner heart]

u just understand what beams represent what

and then notice the rear suspension jbeam have a bounded beam and limits travel anyways and u make a new suspension just to nuke the bound

[tacit halo]

yeah i know

but that just looks like something that would be unstable

crazy high ride height

[inner heart]

fr

but it’s fun do cursed things like that occasionally

[summer vault]

is the texture exported in the right color space

[low seal]

idk

[brittle warren]

Does anyone know how to adjust the amount of exhaust smoke other than the particles modifier in the engine jbeam

[wet idol]

Quick question, where do you find these sample files?

I've scoured almost every single corner of the game files and can't find them

[keen plover]

who knows the sound config for a V10? not scintilla

[calm kernel]

in the gameengine.zip

beacon doesn't get affected by window

[golden urchin]

why is it inside the car?

[calm kernel]

cus its swag

fuck it, ima make one that on top of the car

after im done with everything on my list

[golden urchin]

maybe you can make a disco lamp from it

[calm kernel]

kinda

[golden urchin]

blender is crashing when i want to apply a texture image

[calm kernel]

try applying it ingame

[quick axle]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[golden urchin]

i decided to use just color

doesnt look very good though

[golden urchin]

it needed to be a square, silly me

[golden urchin]

something isnt right

how do i unstretch textures?

[river shard]

do the uv's

[golden urchin]

how?

if i unwrap blender crashes

[river shard]

somethings wrong with blender then

does it do it in other rpojects

[golden urchin]

idk, ill just use color again

[dark finch]

hey guys with visual editor how do you get the code to be in different colours?

im just getting this atm

[golden urchin]

prob somewhere in settings

[calm kernel]

install the jbeam plugin

[gentle fox]

I think those are in the Art-> sound folder, but they are probably encrypted/secured by password

[gentle fox]

I think the plugin is just for visual studio code, but you could use json syntax highlighting

[calm kernel]

@gentle fox do you know somewhat about jbeam/nodes and beams?

[gentle fox]

Im not an expert but yeah

[calm kernel]

do you know how i could make this pendant move like in this clip? (photo is from bx, clip from jbx100, old bx mod)(maybe i could just jank the code from that one)

found it out, haven't jbeamed it yet tho

[golden urchin]

can you export a model with materials in .dae? because blender is crashing whenever i export .dae.

[minor moth]

i can jbeam it for you

its literally 3 nodes

[calm kernel]

maybe, ima first try someting else

pls explain it to me tho, in dms

[minor moth]

send so i can try, im bord

[gentle fox]

Oh sorry, didnt see the message. Yeah its just 3 nodes and some damping from what it looks like

[gentle fox]

Jeebus wth are you listening

[calm kernel]

miau

[hallow jacinth]

So i have an engine in engine simulator that id like to record and transplant into beam, but not sure where to begin, i have somewhat of an idea of how blend files and how the sounds should be recorded but am just a bit unsure

[golden urchin]

begin with recording sounds & an idle, then grab some samples and guess the rpm ranges (very important). i dont know a lot of other stuff but there should be tutorials on youtube

[flat axle]

yall, i need some help, you might remember the old nfsmw 2005 map that someone ported, its missing some areas and in general has some issues. i actually have the full map, but i have no idea how to port it myself

[neon sphinx]

hey, anyone know how to fix this

why is it invisible

this is the engine in blender for reference

[glacial forum]

prolly normals

[neon sphinx]

what do i do to fix it

[calm kernel]

did you apply scale and stuff?

[neon sphinx]

ooh that might be why

wait

apply that??

[neon sphinx]

well i did it and it didnt work

[calm kernel]

do you see textures inside the thing?

like are they inverted?

[neon sphinx]

they dont look inverted but idk

i never had this problem before

and this is an old mod that im revisiting

[glacial forum]

press ctrl +n I think and recalculate normals outside

[neon sphinx]

ctrl + n is nodes

[glacial forum]

in blender

[neon sphinx]

oh

ctrl + n in blender is new file

[glacial forum]

shit I forgor the keybind

oh

[neon sphinx]

ohh its shift and n

[glacial forum]

yeah

[neon sphinx]

i googled

[glacial forum]

no way same!!!

[neon sphinx]

how do i use it?

like click on something and then do it?

[glacial forum]

just select the object then recalculate yeah

[neon sphinx]

tysm

it fixed most of it

just not the scoop

[glacial forum]

idk how to fix that

[neon sphinx]

oh okay

[glacial forum]

I barely know blender myself 😔

[neon sphinx]

well still thank you :)

fixed it

[lunar beacon]

I checked the nodes on the rail more than three times, but the nodes move between the blue rail and the red rail. (Must stick to blue)
How can I fix it?

[lilac radish]

Is it possible to add some locale strings via mod package?

[mint flame]

all of the sudden when i paint terrain it stopped changing colors when i change materials does anyone know whats happening

[warm sphinx]

Did you recently convert your terrain to PBR?

Or start a new project that uses PBR terrain

[mint flame]

i dont think i recently converted it to pbr and im not sure how to do that thanks though

[wet idol]

tried that already

[warm sphinx]

I’m not to sure why you can’t paint then. PBR terrains is usually the reason for the inability to paint.

Are you editing a vanilla map or making your own from scratch?

[mint flame]

Thanks for the help I’m using the base game template map with a mod thing that adds the assets from ecusa

[calm kernel]

where can i find what all the groups in my car are called?

[lusty sparrow]

Double sided rendering I think

[neon sphinx]

idk

i fixed it tho i think

[feral acorn]

i am making a bmw ix1 from blender i need a dev that can help me i got 500-200$

[mint flame]

that was weird. i exited the game without saving to see if i accidentallu clicked something and it seemed to work

[lilac radish]

I just remembering them looking all the jbeams. Seems like it will be easier using any text searching across the files (git, winrar, etc).

[haughty mango]

@calm kernel hes wrong there is absolutely NO way to find all the groups. ur not sigma enough 😤

[calm kernel]

shush bb

👅

[haughty mango]

sorry pookie bear 😜

[calm kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-sigma-gm-sigma-wolf-pack-rise-and-grind-alpha-male-gif-18436891353706736629

[haughty mango]

ahh yes indeed

[calm kernel]

grr

[haughty mango]

ima head to sleep now cya tmrw fino

[calm kernel]

cya specy

[indigo maple]

how to fix wheel placement

[dry cargo]

on the body’s jbeam you can add a node move on the suspension rear slot

[indigo maple]

may i ask what a node move is?

never had to move a wheel position before so i aint got a clue on where to start with that sorry

[shut pollen]

check the docs for a more detailed explanation of nodemove. basically it moves the relevant nodes by a specified distance. you can push the whole system into place

[indigo maple]

ok i figured it out luckily, thanks alot guys

[dry cargo]

no problem

btw if you say thanks in a reply or mentioning them it gives them credit

see

[indigo maple]

thanks @dry cargo

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Gave +1 Reputation to @tame prairie (current: #298 - 6)

[dry cargo]

its a cool system

you have to reply it

theres like a cooldown

ill do it lmao

[indigo maple]

[dry cargo]

thanks @shut pollen

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Gave +1 Reputation to @shut pollen (current: #155 - 14)

[shut pollen]

🫡

[robust holly]

Good day or night there 👋 Is there a way to import 16K maps into BeamNG? I did it but it immports like a giant straight rectangular prism, rectangular cuboid or rectangular parallelepiped 3D rectangle?

[hushed bridge]

how do i make custom config options

like i wanna put some ladders and wood planks leaned up against the cab of a d series in the bed

like this

[robust holly]

wow at the thumbnail looked like a picture... except for this

[fast wren]

shopping cart

[wooden crypt]

Hey there! 👋
It seems there is no characters on this server yet 😓
Reach out to the owner or the bot masters of this server to invite them here.

[calm kernel]

for some reason when reseting/reloading my car it tilts about 15° to the left

[river shard]

I think that happens when you have refnodes wrong?

[robust holly]

Oh wow... I never thought you were doing a car with this... I encourage this avangarde stuff 👏

[haughty mango]

sorry u js not that sigma 😭 🙏

[calm kernel]

I had a silly moment and thought why not make driveable shoppincart

[minor moth]

wrong refnodes

[calm kernel]

i think its cus in both mods there was "ref0"

fucking stupid refnodes keep breaking this shit aaaah

[robust holly]

That's innovation... Very creative...

You're actually creating some sort of shoping cart racing game!

[calm kernel]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/as3-grocery-machine-the-shopping-cart-go-kart.27593/ bruh

im gonna do things to the talent

[keen grove]

im trying to make a skin for the bx, ive got the part coming up in game but it has no texture, i also have a dds in the folder

[rancid wedge]

I managed to make mine work by making a blank skin in the livery editor and replacing the single textures

[keen grove]

well ive gotten to here without using the livery editor

and i need to have a simple to install skin that isnt dynamic textures and such

[errant sable]

why the etk i series windows are black from inside

[haughty mango]

picture perchance?

[errant sable]

so yeah my guess some other mod is messing it

[hushed bridge]

yeah lol i wish i could just slap a ladder from the h series on there

[haughty mango]

if u added tint then u did sum wrong witht he _int thingy in jbeam

if u didnt add anything then its prolly a broken mod/s

[errant sable]

okay then it is broken mod thanks!

[twilit python]

Does anybody know how to save an edited material to the map? I’ve edited an asphalt material for my track because it was transparent, I changed it and sent the map to a friend. He set it up in our BeamMP server and it’s still transparent for everyone but me. So, it’s only saved for me. Any fixes?

[haughty mango]

this is my etk interioir 🤑 🗣️

[haughty mango]

when u save the thingy in world editor it saves for UR pc

there should be a save file idk ive nevr messed with it

[twilit python]

I know it saves to just my PC. How can I make it save to the map?

[haughty mango]

perhaps it is saved to temp > levels

[twilit python]

I will see.

[keen grove]

i think this is all correct but??

[twilit python]

In here is just a file for some trees and one of the building asset's I'm using.

[haughty mango]

oh then i do not know further sorry man

[twilit python]

All good.

[haughty mango]

using pngs >

but looks fine but i js skimmed it

[keen grove]

wdym using pngs?

i just followed a tutorial on youtube but its not new enough for the BX changes

[haughty mango]

i use pngs for all my textures

idk i js prefer pngs 😭

[keen grove]

ill try change the image to png instead

[haughty mango]

idk if theres a difference its js preferance

[keen grove]

nah its still no texture

hm

[haughty mango]

idk how to skin ffs

[keen grove]

FIXED

[heady trail]

World editor saves to the /levels directory in your userfolder

[twilit python]

I get that part.

What happened is the texture for the asphalt was transparent, I went into material editor and fixed it, but it only saved for me and not my friends when I sent them the map.

How do I save the edited material to the MAP and not MY PC.

[heady trail]

Copy the changes from /levels into the mod

[twilit python]

I've done that.

[heady trail]

Did it also prompt you to overwrite?

[twilit python]

Yes.

[heady trail]

Hm

Did you try the map in safe mode yet?

[twilit python]

No.

It's fine for me, but not for other people when I send it to them.

[heady trail]

Ye that's why I want you to check it in safe mode

[dark finch]

is there any way to change the cover photo for your mod in the showcase channel?

[scarlet cedar]

you can edit the first message, remove the image, then link the image u send in the chat

[unique zealot]

where tf is the "driver" node supposed to be, i cannot find it even if it shows up under "pickup_interior"

[rocky breach]

probably either in the frame or body jbeam

it’s the driver camera

[unique zealot]

ive cecked both and it still isn't there

[rocky breach]

Strange

pickup.jbeam then?

[unique zealot]

that's all just glow maps

when i rip the cab off, the driver cam follows it, meaning it must be in one of those but I cannot find it

and also the name in the debug menu being the interior

[cloud oriole]

can someone help me with automation animating steering and gauges

[west stump]

How can I add a working odometer that doesn't reset and a fuel gauge to an existing mod?

[plucky blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/stank-dog-smells-gif-25356900

[winged summit]

I am trying to add custom Bus Routes and Bus Stops to WCA. The route itself works perfectly fine (wca.buslines.json) both in the mods folder and in the root folders. It's getting the BeamNG Triggers to load in as a mod which I am struggling with. I could add them directly to the root WCA, that has worked perfectly fine in the past, but I want to be able to share this mod to the forums. From my understanding, which I'm starting to doubt, is that if you want to make a modification to any part of a default map, you need to replicate the path where whatever you want to mod would be stored. For the busline.json file, its "levels/west_coast_usa/buslines". This is what forum user "_4n" did with his mod which worked. But I can't seem to get the to work to load in the triggers. Any help?

Here is the folder for reference

[mint flame]

i followed a tutorial on importing terrains, my game crashes when i hover over them in the file explorer

[still linden]

hi I'm looking for an up to date tutorial on how to create license plate designs

[west stump]

How can I add a working odometer that doesn't reset and a fuel gauge to an existing mod?

[gentle fox]

There are some mods that do this, maybe try looking at how they do it and try to replicate that

[west stump]

I tried but I didn't really understand how to do it, I tried copy pasting from one mod to another but that obviously did not work

[waxen frigate]

anyone able to help with getting the engine in the right place?

[ebon nimbus]

Anyone know how to make colourable parts?

I want to do colourable engine block, valve cover and timing cover

But had no experience in doing uv maps or anything with materials

[shut pollen]

sure, it isnt terribly hard. is this for an engine you are making or for something from beam? you can pretty much just reference the skinning docs

[ebon nimbus]

kinda

it is based on bolide engine

right now its only the block is original except for its been extend

[shut pollen]

should be easy then, depending on the material setup. you can add a slot for skins that just swaps between different materials, or move the flexbody into a new core slot and use a materialoverride in that "new" part

[ebon nimbus]

hmmm can you teach me how do i do that?

[shut pollen]

skins are one of the few things that the docs actually do cover. materialoverride can be reverse engineered from t series files (fuel tank ones were the easiest, i think?)

[ebon nimbus]

ah ok, ill see what i can do

[shut pollen]

if you hit a roadblock let me know, gotta head to bed shortly. ive just played with both systems for an upcoming update to #1268255959919104010. skinnable mudflaps and colourable shocks using materialoverride, so it is pretty fresh in my mind

[lost jackal]

where the hell is pigeon's fuel tank in jbeams?

I'm desperate and I can't find a single mention of it, please help

[shut pollen]

common folder, pigeon

[unique zealot]

i moved the int_strw node to the other side of the cab, now why does the steering wheel do this

[lost jackal]

thank you!

[toxic widget]

Gave +1 Reputation to @shut pollen (current: #145 - 15)

[umbral garden]

someone know how i can make some changes to this two ?

[twilit python]

Any idea how to make a custom billboard? I am making my own map and I'd like to have a custom design on a few of the billboards.

[haughty mango]

edit texture/assign material in blender

i mean idk if that works for maps

[twilit python]

Any alternatives to Blender? I don't know how to use it.

[haughty mango]

how u making map?

[twilit python]

World editor.

It's my first map, not overly good.

[haughty mango]

umm if u save it as a .dae or wtv works in blender then i can help u out. i noly know how to work with blender and js cant with the mats editor 😭

[twilit python]

Ok.

[native gazelle]

there isn't really a way to do this in world editor (last i checked)

[twilit python]

Oh ok.

I figured.

[karmic kiln]

So, if anyone knows how to make good looking sky, please ping me and let me know how to make it look better. I tried playing around with sunsky in world editor but it never looked good, or similar to vanilla maps.

(A photo from one of my WIP maps)

[native gazelle]

you need a tiny bit of fog

[karmic kiln]

yea no fog aint helping here

[summer vault]

by editing the corresponding textures

[ruby kestrel]

fog most certainly will help depending on where this is supposed to be set.

[native gazelle]

italy runs at 0.25 fog density

which is why you don't see the border of the water

it's a haze

when you remove it, it looks like this

fog off

fog 0.25

[edgy lava]

so im creating a realistic head movement mod, how would i create a keybind the game? like special functions thing?

[karmic kiln]

not really about the fog, what I mean is that the sunset for example isnt as good and it even turns pink/purple for some reason. And the reflections arent as good, unless the reflections are caused by PBR terrain

[ruby kestrel]

I'm unsure what specifically you're referring to with the sunset "isnt as good". The pink/purple thing, though, check and see if it's caused by this option in the "theLevelInfo" thingie. It was set to a purpleish pinkish colour for me by default for whatever reason.

[ruby kestrel]

it might also help, counterintuitively, to change the look of the water. Yours appears very grey and flat, might be better to add some green or blue into it. Add some clouds and a bit of distant fog, + trees should make it look significantly better

[shut pollen]

probably the same issue, should check if just changing the linked mesh data fixes it

there is an option in the launcher. i would just add the folder to quick access or whatever for the next time

there is also an option on the mod menu

[opal sky]

DDS is orange but ingame texture is not, what do I do

[shut pollen]

you probably dont need to do all of this debugging again tbh. just do the same fix as last time

[shut pollen]

if im reading this right, you only have a normal map assigned. this makes it bumpy, not coloured

[south trellis]

Hi guys, I'm here for a bit of a technical question. I have an algorithm for a launch control used in an electrical race car that controls the motors by telling the inverters how much current they should give the motors. Is there a way to do this in beamng with LUA? I have everything set up so that I can read wheel rpm and control the motor with throttle in LUA but idk if there is a way to use current. Any suggestions?

[lunar lance]

I dont think beamng currently simulates any electricity related things, so thats gonna be not possible

Headlights on some cars will still work even if you rip off the entire fascia lol

[gentle fox]

Electric engines work differently tho.
But im not sure how exactly they are coded, have not had a look at it yet, but im sure you could probably find it in the lua somewhere iirc @south trellis

[south trellis]

thanks, i'll try to use rpm than

should I set rpm to be a limit and than keep the motors from spinnig faster?

like changing the max_rpm value?

so let's say the motor has to spin at 5000 rpm, if I set the max_rpm for that motor to 5000 it should be fine

or maybe just check if they are spinning faster and remove throttle? I don't like this solution since it probably makes the car shake from the throbble being like on/off

[gentle fox]

Otherwise probably modifying the power itself would also work

I think just reducing the power output would be ideal

[south trellis]

you mean the torque?

[gentle fox]

Yes

[south trellis]

the problem is that I have no idea how much torque is sent. The algorithm can either send current or rpm to the motors

[south trellis]

Anyone knows why with electrict motors the brake engages automatically?

is there a way to remove this?

[heavy swift]

Probably because you have one-pedal-drive enabled. The motors cant brake properly below a certain rotational speed, so i guess the car just applies the brakes.

[south trellis]

How do I disable it?

I have two pedals and nothing is binded to accelereator & brake in the settings

[south trellis]

It does it with electrict vehicles only tho

[heavy swift]

Yes, only electric vehicles have one pedal drive. Press the menu button and click regenerative braking, then turn it off

[south trellis]

it's a mod I made can I just remove it?

Oh ok done it

        "maxRegenPower":0,
        "maxRegenTorque":0,

I just set those

Thanks @heavy swift ❤️

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Gave +1 Reputation to @heavy swift (current: #56 - 37)

[south trellis]

I promise this is the last question (maybe), is there a quick way to measure the time over 75m?

like a drag race

[west stump]

Someone please help me with a working odometer

I want to add a working odometer that doesn't reset to a mod that doesn't have it

Any possible way?

I have 2 other Mods that have this feature

[south trellis]

Wdym?

How can I retreive a jbeam variable value in a LUA?

[west stump]

What

[south trellis]

What what?

[west stump]

Nothing

[lean mountain]

yo anyone know how to do skin files for a custom shell but automation running gear for me and my mate we have the skin and stuff we want to add on but we cant get our head round the proper files

thats how far we got but we are stuck on actually adding it on

[meager sable]

can someone do the files for us as were very confused

[opal sky]

oh, I am not very smart

🤷‍♂️

[golden urchin]

how do i fix blender giving 0 kb collada files?

[lime notch]

YO