mods-discussion

[latent ivy]

xD

but I screwed up my testing the first time and he wouldnt let it down so I didnt even want to try again

[flat gust]

ooo gossip in the beamng discord lmao

[latent ivy]

is it gossip if its from stuff on the forums that you can see

xD

[twin zinc]

Okay the pigeon/wigeon vivace-E swap is at a point where it moves... but my guages don't show up and it doesn't go into reverse, which might have something to do with the fact I had to trick the game into thinking the motor is also the gearbox in order for the stock driveshaft to work. I've a lot of work to do lol.

[latent ivy]

put the vivace dash in it if you haven’t already

[twin zinc]

No I mean the UI gauges. They don't show up, asif theres no drivetrain in the car

I may do that though, if I can

[latent ivy]

Rim UwU

[drowsy leaf]

wierd rim

[latent ivy]

So, should I add a bit more detail to the middle, or?

It has a Hub cap but it doesn't cover the hub

Not sure why I did that, I just thought it looked futuristic

[latent ivy]

Does anyone know where I can find (M5) E39 mods?

[latent ivy]

Hehe Boiye

[latent ivy]

any better?

[drowsy leaf]

model isnt bad but its a weird stile of wheel but looks good

[reef flint]

It looks unusual but it verry cool

[latent ivy]

neat

[latent ivy]

there is one but it's a really bad meshslap

[solar crystal]

i have a question to agenty

[drowsy leaf]

i think hes not her

[fiery bronze]

please give me realistic mods

[drowsy frost]

Please shut up

[drowsy leaf]

please give me 100 dollars and ill do one

[sweet jetty]

You can find them on Beamng.com

Beamng website > mods

[plush glade]

that is a huge generalisation

[plush glade]

ok i saw this on the forums and i wanna educate some up and coming moders on subsurf

it is almost always not a good idea to use it

let me show you why

let me use this as an example

the model is currently not very high poly

and i wanna make it a bit smoother in some areas

this is what it looks like using the subsurf modifier

it makes the polyflow of the object really messy and creates unfavourable shapes

by making this manually you have nice controllable polyflow

and vertecies only when you need them

[obtuse oriole]

well then

ive been trying to fix why the angles are working sometimes but in other areas are completely off

this is what it should be, with the yellow line intersecting the green vehicle marker

but in other angles it doesnt work

so I decided, what if on the canvas that has the overflowvehicle markers, what if I put a line from the focus point to the border and rotate it with the same angle, perhaps that could help me find the issue

and well

it did

its been focusing on the wrong point :P

the red line and cyan circle should be where the player is

[obtuse oriole]

still a little off

[dense portal]

<@&710084482031550547> in russian but you can still tell its a scam

it was gone as soon as i sent that lmao

[frosty slate]

somebody want my e31 mod, and try to revamp it ?

[plush glade]

no

[halcyon summit]

anyone know of a good sc300 mod? All the ones ive gotten are broken.

[barren mountain]

Does anyone have a bronco mod? I saw one before

[shadow gorge]

the one you saw is a crappy hopper meshslap

dont bother with that

also made by mod stealers

[barren mountain]

oh ok

[sweet jetty]

I want it, but I cant revamp it

[frosty slate]

No

[drowsy leaf]

what is the state of the mod

does it have pbr

and what car is a e31

[latent ivy]

I have idea for mod

[drowsy leaf]

do it yourself

[latent ivy]

I am surprised we have not seen these though

and the texas ones or whatever they are called

these things

[drowsy leaf]

🍚

[sweet jetty]

Lol

[jolly berry]

Why u need that

[drowsy leaf]

you dont

[jolly berry]

Yeah true

[frozen coral]

Yo someone now how to fix that

[drowsy leaf]

normals are broken

alt + n

-> recalculate normals

[frozen coral]

Thank it works

[twin zinc]

Okay epic. BeamNG apparently isn't happy when you have part of your drivetrain named "gearbox" that isn't a transmission, I just made a new driveshaft that connects directly to the motor and it works

[median sage]

someone make wigeon submarine

[latent ivy]

diy

[plush glade]

hey @polar cedar has actually made that exact idea before

https://www.beamng.com/resources/spiked-rear-wheels.11065/

warning

buggy

[median sage]

i cant

[latent ivy]

then learn

[latent ivy]

Thank you very much

[drowsy frost]

off topic, but congrats on moderator

[safe geyser]

anyone good at car modding can make the opel astra F caravan from 1996? its one of my favorite cars

[subtle cypress]

Those are gangster car spikes not police

[drowsy leaf]

hey can YOU make me a lamborgini supra gtr nizmo ss 2069? its one of my favorite cars

[latent ivy]

what makes a wheel spike police vs gangster lol

[safe geyser]

i suck at modding lmao

i never tried it

[drowsy leaf]

get good

[subtle cypress]

Gangstery is gang useful is 5o

[latent ivy]

idk how the pillar thing is useful at all

[drowsy leaf]

guy uses my rb and jz for his modland crap

[sweet jetty]

😦

[latent ivy]

brohe

[drowsy leaf]

sad

at least on my newest mods i have anty piracy measures

not good ones but yea

they send a chat message telling not to reupload

every time you reset the car

thanks to @tired coyote for telling me

[latent ivy]

you should be able to request a takedown, it is your mod after all

[drowsy leaf]

i dont care

those mods are shit

and at least its not just reuploading

once one of my proudest mods got reuploaded everiwhere

ç

[quaint flint]

third party sites support using other assets on mods and leaking other mods, it wouldnt make a difference if he tried

[latent ivy]

I am not a lawyer but... you might be able to DMCA

[quaint flint]

you could try, but i dont think lichi copyrighted the mod, beside he did release it publicly to the repo

[last kelp]

@barren mountain https://www.beamng.com/threads/gavril-t-series-addon.12600/

[barren mountain]

thanks

[barren mountain]

oh so you're adding on to this or what?

[last kelp]

no I don't make mods, I just combined it with the other one

[barren mountain]

huh ok

[frail juniper]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/2021-bmw-m4-g82-competition.82334/
guys is it just me or is there no download button

[whole ruin]

It's on page 3

This is the reminder of who this person is. This joke will not go (it'll be posted time to time) until he redeem himself.

[frail juniper]

weird

[whole ruin]

Yeah he's weird (btw I edited that pic; the original base is iamthelaw105. The rest are modified)

*made

[tame crown]

ojay

ok

[lunar egret]

ok

here no beluga

bcs here we beamng

also you not beluga

you begula

and we should move to #off-topic

go to #off-topic

[safe geyser]

you mean tesla?

[polar roost]

i think im in love with the RK'S engine mod

[frosty slate]

He is banned

?

[whole ruin]

No he is not banned, I just edited the photo.

[frosty slate]

iamtheclown420

[drowsy leaf]

^^

[tame crown]

same

[shadow gorge]

shame it doesnt have engine models

[drowsy leaf]

^^^^^^^

[onyx widget]

nice grass

[dense portal]

spike strip

:arabtroll:

[eternal vigil]

We need this car lol

[latent ivy]

if you want it then make it yourself

[eternal vigil]

it was a joke

[latent ivy]

any mod reco for new players?

[latent ivy]

ah oke

[gilded ridge]

I recommend car jump arena, lots of fun

[granite lodge]

fr

[drowsy leaf]

wow

so idiot

@hasty pendant can you do something bout this guy

[sharp granite]

Does anyone know of a Dodge Durango thats not on a 3rd party website?

[light prawn]

Hey guys, I'm new to the BeamNG modding scene. How does this look so far?

[modern stratus]

anyone know where i can find a lmboorginin adventador mod

[latent ivy]

that looks quite good, watch out for those trim/pinch areas that have the edge loops bunch up

for a high poly thats fine, but maybe think about baking that out so you dont have to worry about possible spiking

[light prawn]

Parts like this right?

Thank you!

[latent ivy]

specifically here

stuff like that

when it bunches up like that it can sometimes cause spiking on deformation, what you can do is take that model and bake it down to a normal map, and just reduce the edges to like

you also have modeled bevels, try to avoid that

good for a high but bake it out

[light prawn]

do I have to bake it, or can I just model it low poly and manually put the bevels on a normal map?

It just takes a lot of concentration

[latent ivy]

How would put put them on without baking?

[light prawn]

I don't know, I just read in the beamNG documentation that I can just make the low poly objects (like the hood) then manually "model" the normal map in an image editor

essentially just draw it

[latent ivy]

how much 3d experience do you have?

[light prawn]

It's been a year but I've been 3D modeling for 3 years before then.

[latent ivy]

drawing normal maps is not really a thing 3d artists do

[latent ivy]

that is really out dated and highly not suggested

have you done any texturing in 3d?

[light prawn]

Only like, tires.

[latent ivy]

what program?

[light prawn]

blender

[latent ivy]

well I meant what program did you use to make the textures for it in

[light prawn]

I just pull a tire map from images

[latent ivy]

well with beamng being PBR now you will want to avoid that and use a tool like substance painter

[light prawn]

Damn I gotta spend moneyy

it's fine though

I've been wanting that anyways

[latent ivy]

if you are a student, its free

[light prawn]

I'm not a student

[latent ivy]

rip

[light prawn]

welp

I guess I gotta make this high poly then? since, I can't "draw" the bevels apparently.

[latent ivy]

yes you will want to do the standard game dev high to low method

you dont want the really tight grouping of spans like you had there, the rest was fine but those areas

[light prawn]

ah alright, well at least you told me before I got too far into the project lol

I like this car so I don't mind putting in the extra effort, I just didn't know.

[latent ivy]

im assuming you have done basically nothing but cars for 4 years? xD

[light prawn]

Yeah pretty much

I'd pull out my old work, but it was on my old computer before it went nuclear. That and I didn't have much of an online presence.

[latent ivy]

you got a portfolio or anything? artstation n whatnot

[light prawn]

nah I just didn't post. I'd make things for myself mostly, didn't think to save anything until it was too late.

[latent ivy]

what car is it btw? got any ref images im curious

[light prawn]

It's a Plymouth Barracuda

[latent ivy]

noice, looks like a beauty

[light prawn]

it's my dream car

[latent ivy]

well if you need any help feel free to ask here or reach out to me, 3D art is mah job so

[light prawn]

Thank you I really appreciate that

[frank kelp]

looks pretty much perfect to be fair

[light prawn]

You think so?

[frank kelp]

yeah, topo looks pretty even

[light prawn]

Thank you, and about the bevels, do I still need to make a high poly version of this to bake? I just recall reading that it's not necessary but apparently things have changed.

[frank kelp]

hmm no not really

you can use this mesh as-is without much trouble

[latent ivy]

doesnt the tight spots cause spiking issues though?

[frank kelp]

I haven't heard that before but maybe it does? Hasn't been an issue to me to be fair

[latent ivy]

% these spots specifically

where they get really close together

[light prawn]

I'm using the Barstow model as reference, I just notice the door gaps for example do not have edge loops, yet in game it appears to have a "bevel" even if the literal model does not

[latent ivy]

those are usually baked iirc

[frank kelp]

they're not actually baked

what the devs do is bake a full white diffuse map of their cars' UV map and run that through a height map to normal map tool

[light prawn]

and they just bake the final model, not a high poly version?

[frank kelp]

yup

[light prawn]

I can imagine small parts like engines and tires have a high poly version, but not the body

[latent ivy]

what? that makes no sense though. that would just be blank

[frank kelp]

there is no high to low involved on the main chassis/panels mesh

[frank kelp]

I think I have an example, 1 sec

[latent ivy]

yee if you have an example im curious, I have never heard of this

[light prawn]

and I figured since cars have so many variations, it would be unweildly to model each and every single variation in it's high poly form. Maybe for mods, but for an entire game, I figured it'd be more optimized.

[frank kelp]

yeah as I said none of the base body stuff has high poly involved

@latent ivy so it's just this ran through a normal map filter

[latent ivy]

ohhhhhh I see now

that does kinda make sense

[light prawn]

but like, is engine parts baked?

they looked pretty detailed

[latent ivy]

I was thinking it was just... pure white lol

[frank kelp]

yup, engines are baked

[latent ivy]

but it would make the edges of those objects rounded

[frank kelp]

yea

[light prawn]

ohhhh, so like, when it's ran through the filter, the endges just bevel?

[latent ivy]

would be a bit annoying to uv unwrap and stuff but

it would in fact, work well

[frank kelp]

yup, gives this as a result

[light prawn]

daaamnn ok, this makes a lot more sense to me now

damn I have a lot to learn lol

[frank kelp]

always worked pretty well from what I tested

[light prawn]

Alll I know how to do is make polygons look like things.

[latent ivy]

that is neat, wouldnt be as clean and detailed as a hand made bevel but you get 90% of the output for 25% of the work

[light prawn]

Hopefully I can get my car in game soon.

[frank kelp]

looked accurate enough for the devs :p

[light prawn]

I mean you have to account for optimization, like technically yes if you had all the time in the world you can make the models beautiful and realistic, but beam ng would take like 500 years to make.

[latent ivy]

yee thats what I mean. gets you far enough that basically no one except some insane car nerd that goes 'hey this bevel on the hood is more rounded then a normal one' lol

[frank kelp]

yeah exactly lol

[light prawn]

At that point you might as well start modelling details like the piston rings and stuff

[latent ivy]

you also would be unable to change the size of a bevel, if you wanted a more rounder one

[frank kelp]

you can technically

[latent ivy]

well it would either apply to the whole map or you would have to do some cut and paste work

[frank kelp]

you just have to edit your base UV diffuse thing and blur the edges or soften them

ah yea

[light prawn]

lmao idk why that was so funny to me

[latent ivy]

you could do that, but its more guess work than precision stuff. I personally like precision but sometimes that needs to go out the window for game dev

[light prawn]

don't get me wrong, I do too, but I still want to have my car in game before the end of the century

[latent ivy]

I mean games like GTA do it all the time and whatnot

[potent mirage]

just for understand - bevel like this is bad for beamng (optimisation i think)?

[latent ivy]

most games do normal baking lol

[light prawn]

If anything GTA is less detailed

they use the same chassis texture for literally every car

[latent ivy]

I just use GTA since most people know that but if I said 'well iracing does xyz' xD

[latent ivy]

that is probably as high as I would go for a bevel of that size

one trick I know of is deleting the round bit and making the edges smooth ones, that makes it look the same but if its big the user may see a flat spot sometimes

its one of the things where you would want to see how much your overall polygons are and if you can spare a bit

[frank kelp]

you don't need a lot of geometry to make something look round

a 3 sided cylinder still looks like a perfect cylinder from the side

[latent ivy]

yee, a lot of games these days actually do bevels with a flat angled cut and make it smooth

[frank kelp]

cut down on the geo and let the shading do the work

heck even a single segment bevel can make stuff look round

[potent mirage]

around 280k poly for all two versions and engine (70k poly iirc)

only body - 17k

[latent ivy]

that is quite high, but I would not call it absolutely horrid. I would recommend dropping it if you can, since for reference the d-series with literally every part possible on it is 350k

the body polycount is probably fine, the engine is really high

assuming you mean the engine is 70k

[potent mirage]

yes, all engine

[latent ivy]

all engineS or just 1 engine is 70

[light prawn]

holy crap is it really that high?

[potent mirage]

only one

[latent ivy]

yeah you really want to cut that down

[light prawn]

good things engines are baked

[latent ivy]

these days polycounts are less of an issue but low polycount is still good practice

[frank kelp]

70k for an engine is pretty high

I'm sure it could be baked down and look even better

to be honest I think high to low baked meshes look better than just high poly ones lol

[latent ivy]

for reference, literally every gravil engine together is 70k

[frank kelp]

maya viewport background

[latent ivy]

dont make me make you scream, because it gets 'worse'

[potent mirage]

a little correction - 55k

[frank kelp]

the detail

is real

that looks awesome tho

[latent ivy]

yeah it looks good but you can bake a loooot of that

if I had to guess you probably have a lot of divisions on those cylinders 😛

[frank kelp]

hell you might even be able to bake your already textured engine down to another one

[light prawn]

it looks so good!

[light prawn]

ah yes the engine can literally be made out of engine

[frank kelp]

literally yes

lol

[potent mirage]

oh, and talking about optimisation

[frank kelp]

yeah high poly meshes don't affect the FPS too much, it's more so about general optimization, looks, and (not valid in your case) better deformation

[light prawn]

I've noticed that the lower poly a car is, the less impressive it deforms

[latent ivy]

high poly stuff is one of those "it doesnt cause problems... till it does and then it causes a lot of em"

[frank kelp]

yeah

[frank kelp]

not exactly true

[light prawn]

Well it depends on the Jbeam too of course

[lapis lance]

😦

[latent ivy]

iv got a mod idea can someone make it?

its a good idea

[drowsy leaf]

no

[frank kelp]

no

[polar roost]

casually doing burnouts in 3rd gear and having brake tempeature at 850 degrees lol

[narrow onyx]

there’s like a 0.001% chance i’ll make it but what’s the idea

[latent ivy]

@polar roost that is not a mod, if you are posting screenshots they go in #screenshots

[dense portal]

beefis is a moderator now :ohdeargod:

[latent ivy]

[latent ivy]

a to hitch that you can put trailers from trucks

for a car

[mental geode]

It exists

https://www.beamng.com/resources/fifth-wheel-trailer-dolly.1141/

[latent ivy]

oh cool

[alpine rivet]

i wish there was a pessima coupe with a fwd layout to represent my celica as a lore friendly model for it 🥺

[frank kelp]

make one then

[latent ivy]

it's real

[vapid jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAn9kanhGRM

someone make this plsssss

I don't know how to mod

[latent ivy]

then learn and don't beg

this community doesn't like beggars

[light prawn]

why is there so many

I keep seeing people ask for stuff

[latent ivy]

idk

there are many lazy people I guess

too many

I mean juszt if you want smth then do it yourself

And don't beg for stuff

[gray otter]

hi all, just wanted to know if there were any good Japan maps already out there?

I couldn't find anything on the beamng mods official page

[latent ivy]

there's loads

mostly on the forums

[gray otter]

oh, duh

[latent ivy]

just google it lol

[gray otter]

cool, I'll do that, thanks

can't believe I forgot to check the forums

🤦‍♂️

[obtuse oriole]

eh?

are you suggesting third party mod sites or just using google as a more accurate search engine than the one on beamng.drive

cause I highly suggest avoiding third party sites

as many of them contain viruses

[latent ivy]

I wasn't saying that mate

[obtuse oriole]

aight just askin

[latent ivy]

google is better at finding things on the forums then the forums are

[obtuse oriole]

yeah lol

just making sure

[latent ivy]

3rd party stuff is great for getting 'interesting' software installed on your pc

[gray otter]

lol

found a few Japan maps (on the forums!)

thanks!

I might have to jump into map creation...there is a specific place that I want to drive in, but it's super niche, so it would be a minor miracle if anyone had already made it

[latent ivy]

can someone make a audi sq5 for beamng.drive

[warm moth]

You can

[latent ivy]

I cant

[latent ivy]

you can

just learn

ok

[outer bay]

does anyone know of an AWD mod for the miramar?

[latent ivy]

Does anyone have or is there any turntable mods anywhere

[quaint flint]

what

[latent ivy]

Do you not know what a turntable is

[drowsy leaf]

you want this?!

this is a vehicle simulation game

not a music game

[latent ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[drowsy leaf]

ah

no that doesnt exist

and i showed you that cus when u google turntable that appears

be more specific 🤷‍♂️

[latent ivy]

I mean theres a piano in the game either or im not far off really am i

[drowsy leaf]

but the piano is designed for destroying it

[plush glade]

wait we need that

we actually need that quite badly

[drowsy leaf]

^`

[swift bough]

Well you can if you open the keyboard

[stuck wyvern]

who made the 8x8 off road truck

[plush glade]

@tiny mesa here

[tiny mesa]

Thanks

Okay, do any of you know where I can find a good 1950s style vehicles?

Apart from default

[exotic charm]

anyone know of any decent kei truck mods like an acty or sambar?

the sambar mod that comes with the agents mod pack is a pain to drive

[gusty jay]

Does anyone have a link to the car used in this vid. https://youtu.be/1VQM4fZOpA4

[mystic kestrel]

Has anybody here broke the game files for forza horizon 5 yet? I really want to use the foliage assets😂😂

[buoyant nymph]

i need help with this modding stuff, I have the jbeam modeled out but I'm stuck at this point

[drowsy leaf]

aadafsaihgdsfy

[onyx widget]

xD nice

[quaint flint]

give

[tame crown]

hot

please make it higher poly for realistic looks

10fps

[robust coyote]

my neighbors car

porsche

[drowsy leaf]

who asked tho

[latent ivy]

jesus christ what is this monstrocity lmao

[granite lodge]

nah bro i bbd that shit

[latent ivy]

emoji

[quaint flint]

lmao

[tame crown]

bruh

[latent ivy]

lmao

[open quiver]

Today i started modding, i think i'm doing it right

[drowsy leaf]

for sure

[open quiver]

xD

[tame crown]

That's beautiful

Quality

[drowsy leaf]

man that has got more nodes than 7 beamng cars combined

[tame crown]

Ok but ngl that actually looks sick

looks like the jbeam for some hyper speed car that can go mach 1

[open quiver]

...maybe

i know i have to reduce nodes, it was just to get something in game

[tame crown]

And this looks like a spaceship lmao

[open quiver]

the "car" was folding like a tissue and i tried to give it more strenght...now it's a black hole

[tame crown]

Lmfaooo

does it suck in the entire map

[drowsy leaf]

you are looking at around 100-250 nodes for that type of car

[open quiver]

the pc explodes before i know

[drowsy leaf]

just saying

[open quiver]

thanks for the advice

[granite lodge]

oh god

[latent ivy]

jesus

so many nodes lmao

[open quiver]

y e s

[granite canopy]

anyone know about a front aero option for covet that's not just the vanilla front lip? I've been looking for something like a front splitter for a log time for the covet

[buoyant nymph]

make one 🤔

[glass gazelle]

is there a source where i can download all mod cars

[sweet jetty]

Beamng.com > mods

[glass gazelle]

no i mean cars like audi vw

[granite lodge]

just stick to the official site

https://beamng.com/forums/land.44/

[drowsy frost]

This is modding discussion men

[winter rampart]

average beginner modder

imports whole model as jbeam

[neat plover]

Anyone here work with AngularJS?

[flat stirrup]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/palkia88s-utah-county-sheriff-upgraded-vehicles-pack.20436/

My mod pack got released

yey

[latent ivy]

how do i put mods in

[sweet jetty]

C/Users/[your name]/AppData/Local/BeamNG.Drive/0.23/mods

Just copy the zipped file into the mod folder

[onyx widget]

Ok so, I gonna tease you something.
When I'll have more time for modelling, I'll start something that nobody ever made
Hint: segment B sporty coupe

[ionic nest]

that's the one i'm waiting for

i'm waiting for tons of hours for this thing to come out

meanwhile there's also a matiz and i'm waiting for that too

[shadow gorge]

nice

[ionic nest]

time to bloat my mods folder again

to the repo

[atomic vigil]

is there a way to know what mod is causing broken texyres

[latent ivy]

just keep disabling mods until the textures are fine or something

[opaque socket]

hi how can i change the position of the exhaust smoke i have my exhaust on the hood

[meager arch]

The position of the 2 last nodes of the exhaust determine the position and orientation at which the exhaust smoke exits

[blissful token]

best place for 3D models?

[narrow onyx]

sketchfab i guess

[blissful token]

thanks

[narrow onyx]

i wouldnt reccomend it for beamng modding tho

cause the models might not have correct polyflow/polycount

[blissful token]

damn

is there any other decent sites>

[narrow onyx]

I'd say your only real option is learning to model, but if your lucky you might find something good

[blissful token]

okay

[open quiver]

@winter rampart Not true, this is the original model [it's not mine] i'm not that dumb. Now i have a good structure, next step is make it sustain itself and not collapse

Now it's better

[light prawn]

wtf lol

did you use all the modifiers?

[open quiver]

the model is not mine, i just took out wheels, cockpit and remeshed it to have a good jbeam, i'll work on the model later

[light prawn]

I know I was joking

[open quiver]

well guess the creator did xD

[light prawn]

it just looks like someone just clicked on all the modifiers and said "this is peak topology"

[open quiver]

don't even know if it was made on blender tbh

[blissful token]

is there something thats in between low-poly and high-poly?

like mid-poly or some shit?

[open quiver]

well yes i guess, the modeler decides how the model is

[blissful token]

ok

[light prawn]

yeah like BeamNG models

mid poly is my favorite, it's making a car look somewhat realistic with as little polygons as possible

it's an artform

[open quiver]

i agree

the model i'm working on it's taken from an assetto corsa mod, i guess every game like that have high-poly models. If you build the model from scratch you decide the "quality" of the model, modeling is not hard, it just takes lot of time and if you want to try modding you can't entirely skip the modeling part using prefab models, cause than you'll surely have to modify them and be able to use the program, so maybe start getting familiar with blender.

[light prawn]

yeah, like, modeling isn't that hard in general, it's the optimization that makes things a little tricky

[blissful token]

should i start off with a basic blender tutorial or go straight to a "how to model a car in blender" video?

[light prawn]

Follow the tutorial by Kevin Gallant

[blissful token]

alright

[open quiver]

Do the donut

[light prawn]

I didn't do the donut

[blissful token]

this one?

[open quiver]

How dare you 😂

[light prawn]

When I first learned how to model, I just followed a super outdated car modelling tutorial, and modelled cars over and over and over until I got good

[blissful token]

okay

[light prawn]

it took me 3 years, but, more like 1 year since it was on and off

[blissful token]

@light prawn this tutorial?

[light prawn]

yes that one

[blissful token]

thanks#

[open quiver]

The donut it’s a nice start not only for modeling but to learn the program but do what you would like

[light prawn]

and don't use all the modifiers

[blissful token]

ok

[open quiver]

xD and don’t directly export the model as jbeam

[blissful token]

how do i export it as a .DAE file?

[light prawn]

just model the car, you don't need your fiirst model to be a beam ng mod

[blissful token]

aight

[light prawn]

you're not gonna make this car overnight

it takes time

[open quiver]

It’s simple, there’s the export function in blender and various format, there’s the .dae

[light prawn]

it takes thousands of hours to learn

[open quiver]

And thousands of mistakes

[light prawn]

thousands

[open quiver]

Know that also very few modders succeed to complete the mod

Others just meshslap and others give up

[light prawn]

yeah, but I really want one of my cars in game, even if it's just one, I'll be forever satisfied, I'll work on it all next year if I have to

which I probably will

so it's fine, it'll be a journey

[open quiver]

Yes, hope you succeed

[light prawn]

thanks! you too!

[open quiver]

Thanks

[light prawn]

@lean mason that is what I'm aiming for though, like if somehow I land a job making cars for a game, then that's like, goals. Even if I had to do a couple other things on the side, as long as I can contribute to the vehicular part of gaming, I'd be happy

[lean mason]

So yeah, you'll probably be doing a bunch of other types of models as well

[light prawn]

of course, but you know what, i'd rather model a car sometimes, then make garbage cans, than work in a grocery store lmao

[lean mason]

And also

Typically the larger the employer

The more specialized you become

So if you're gonna work for the guys at beamng

You'd be doing a lot more than just car modeling

[light prawn]

yeah that makes sense

[lean mason]

Because they're not as big as the guys at EA or whatever

[light prawn]

it's fine though.

[lean mason]

And also large studio stuff is extremely repetitive

[light prawn]

I mean, just getting my foot in the industry is already a goal

[supple timber]

you do know beamng has environmental artists and vehicle artists right...?

[lean mason]

I mean yeah you're probably right, my bad for not making it clear, but I'm quite new to the beam community 🤣

5 days now? Idk. I came here literally yesterday I think haha

[lean mason]

Gotta get those connections going

[light prawn]

I just gotta keep modeling

and the industry doesn't even have to be AAA stuff, I'm happy to work for independant studios too

I imagine now more than ever the more independant studios will be seeing a lot of business

since literally anyone can make a game

[lean mason]

Anyone can make a game, but it doesn't necessarily it'll be good or cohesive

[supple timber]

Fair enough just wanted to point out their our specialized devs at bng who work on vehicles or environments, then they do have some that cross over and do a bit of everything afaik.

[lean mason]

But yes, you can't deny the smaller studios are really catching on though

[light prawn]

I mean, ideally if I am at a level where I can model and put cars into games on a professional level, I imagine I'd be a little bit experience in other stuff too

[lean mason]

And it's most likely due to better communication, less corporate objectives such as merchandise quotas, etc etc

[light prawn]

"How can we make more moneyy" "Lets rerelease the same game four times, across 3 consoles and a PC, and release it on PC 2 when that comes out!"

[lean mason]

AHEM

g t a t r i l o g y d e f i n i t i v e e d i t i o n

[light prawn]

"ah yeah, just throw on a nice shader, and re-release it for full price, maybe cool fire effects, but we don't want to do the rest of the worrkkkk"

[lean mason]

Idk if talking about GTA in modding is good but

Yeah, technically speaking, the "definitive" editions are just the mobile ports, which by the way, were WAY worse than the OG games cus, well, mobile. I think San Andreas is the largest culprit. You should see the comparison videos between OG and definitive, it's depressing honestly

Features literally deleted from existence for no reason

And bug after bug after bug

[light prawn]

here's the way I see it. I'm glad I have the chance to live these games since I didn't have the chance too when they first came out, but the only reason they're good, is because the original games were good, what was "improved" was just lazy, they couldn't even bother to raise the polygon count on the cars.

[lean mason]

I mean San Andreas is San Andreas, a great fricken game. You can't change that. But side by side comparison really shows how lazy rockstar has gotten with rereleases, new content, and just cash grabbing in general

And well, rockstar wasn't even the one to port the game. Some random mobile developer has been doing it all

[light prawn]

GTA 6 better blow us out of water when it comes out in the retirement homes

[lean mason]

Like yeah, I never owned a PlayStation 2, so I didn't experience the OG. The OG I remember is the mobile version on my crappy phone. But looking back, it's just sad to see how much they fell from grace

GTA 6 better use jBeam 15 years from now if it wants any chances of impressing me

Car damage in V was intentionally nerfed from IV

[light prawn]

I want a game with beam ng crashes, but you also have a character than can get out the cars and shoot and stuff

[light prawn]

You're the first person other than me to care about that

[lean mason]

Well

[light prawn]

literally no one else I've talked to really notices and I'm like come on, you can even see where the damage model cuts off in V

[lean mason]

When you fly at 250 mph into a wall

And you get a tiny Lil scratch

And no wheels pop off

there's going to be some major disappointment

I'm also looking at you Forza

[light prawn]

I mean, think about the target audience here. 9 year old kids, who like to put whitewalls on zentornos would be salty if there car broke from a curb hop

[lean mason]

Yes. I know the game is intentionally nerfed. It was a design choice. It's more arcade-centric than realistic

[light prawn]

but GTA IV still did it better

like I'd get it if it was like that from the beginning but it was not

[lean mason]

But it shows that they'd drop the shit people like you and I appreciate in IV, for easier shit that kids can play with in V

Because

Mommy credit cards

Also dms

[blissful token]

the guy in the tutorial im watching has an older version of Blender so I dont know which shit to press

[austere radish]

you can install an older version of blender

preferably the one used in the tutorial

[light prawn]

just look up what it is on the new version

it;s not that different

[blissful token]

ok

is there a difference between .msi and .zip?
I know about zipped files but not msi files

[plush glade]

what in the hell is that jbeam

[drowsy leaf]

a

he doesnt know how to jbeam

its his second attempt

my second attempt had around 300 nodes on an engine

[wild raft]

💀 what the fuck

[vast adder]

Hey, can I ask a quick question

[sweet jetty]

Hi Inn0centJok3r

[wild raft]

Hi Green Civetta Bolide

[vast adder]

I am trying to save a version of utah that I edited in map editor, how can I save without overwriting the original

[sweet jetty]

Just wanted to Tell you that your mod is so cool

[wild raft]

Thanks <3

I made some other mods too

[sweet jetty]

😏

[vast adder]

[wild raft]

It doesn’t overwrite anything par se, it rather just creates an edited version in the cache

[vast adder]

So, just save?

[wild raft]

Yea you can just use the cache file to do whatever you want then

[vast adder]

I'm confused

[wild raft]

Or just remove it to restore the map to its default state

[vast adder]

save?

or save as

Sorry I am so confused

[wild raft]

Save as I’d say

If you want to do something with the map

Save just saves it under the current name

[vast adder]

okay

so if I go to save as what do I select for the folder?

[wild raft]

I can’t really help much there

[vast adder]

Do I just use the Utah folder?

Because I'm pretty sure if I make an new folder it breaks everything

[wild raft]

If you wanna replace your Utah with it, yea

[vast adder]

I don't want to replace Utah though.

[wild raft]

Then make a new folder in the cache

Under levels ofc

[vast adder]

What is the cache?

[wild raft]

The user folder
The place where altered files and new files are placed

Like
If you load a vehicle for example, the game will cache the model and create a much smaller and easier to load version of it inside the cache folder

[vast adder]

Im not really tracking, sorry, very new to all of this

[wild raft]

So that the next time you load the vehicle will take much shorter to load

[vast adder]

the folder in appdata?

[wild raft]

Yees

[vast adder]

save it to levels in there?

[obtuse oriole]

[vast adder]

saved it, attempting to re load it

appears to be broken somehow

[wild raft]

Im not a map maker so I can’t help much

[vast adder]

I guess I'm just failing to see why this doesnt work

it saved my terrain changes to my default utah map

wtf

I don't know what I have to do

[drowsy frost]

about 69

[wild raft]

😎

[stuck wyvern]

i downloaded the somewhat outdated man tgs but it wont show up in my list

i put in in mods and it put itself in the vehicles folder but it wont show up

[open quiver]

Thanks for clearing that’s my second attempt, i know it’s still a lot of jbeam i’m not blind. I just wanted to make a funny post on how being a beginner i make mistakes (with the first video i mean, then i sent those two pics just to answer to them), but then people keeps pointing out my errors. There’s a learning curve, people don’t make right things immediately.
Explanation remaining in the context: i had the model by an assetto corsa mod, it was awful; i remeshed it an tried to have something in game just to see it. It had too many jbeams, and reduced them, now i want to work with values to make it rigid like actual metal.
Remember that lot of people just refuses to work with doing jbeams and meshslap

[tacit marten]

Hey guys do somebody know how does that splitter shifter with T-Series works? I´ve got installed mod but it seems to be broken for me or i´m just idiot because i can get only 9 gears out of 18 :/

[jolly bane]

You would need a 18 speed trans

[surreal helm]

anyone ever see an electric skateboard mod for beamng?

[ionic nest]

if anyone wonders about a fix for the Fait One i have it just for ye

where was it...

https://www.beamng.com/threads/fiat-one-mod-has-no-part-tree.80867/

the fix's here it's just the mod but fixed

and yes it is called the Fait One, it is not a typo

[tacit marten]

I´ve got

[latent ivy]

what is that

deth

[drowsy leaf]

abobinatUS

[latent ivy]

anyone trying to use the jbeam exporter ever 💀

[obtuse oriole]

aaa

when working on the improved navigation mod

I'd never of thought I'd need to do trig

(Math.abs(ovx - borderWidth)/Math.sin((180 - (angle - 90)) * Math.PI / 180) * Math.sin(angle * Math.PI / 180))

lengh of side/sin(angle) * sin(angle)

specifically the sine law

[sterile charm]

Hello

[bleak elk]

@untold stone no steering or nothing

no other mods too*

and ye i have arcanox core

[untold stone]

is your default gearbox mode (in Gameplay settings) set to Arcade or Realistic? there is currently a bug that I haven't had a chance to fix yet that crashes the vehicle's script engine if you have that set to Arcade

if it's set to Arcade, change it to Realistic and see if that fixes it

[bleak elk]

ah lemme try

nah doesnt work

theres no dials too

[untold stone]

can you upload the "beamng.log" file in your BeamNG user folder so I can take a look?

[bleak elk]

oof

im playing on geforce now xd

[untold stone]

ah; whenever you get a chance is fine. just mention me here; you should be able to just drop the file onto Discord in a reply

[bleak elk]

i cant

[untold stone]

I'll need the logs to figure out where the script crashed

[bleak elk]

i play on geforce now so i cant access files and stuff

[untold stone]

is it your own computer? can you access them at a later time?

[bleak elk]

nah i always use geforce now

[untold stone]

I can't really do much without logs unfortunately; there's an infinite number of reasons that could cause it to not work

[bleak elk]

oof

[untold stone]

if you can get a high res screenshot of the game console (tilde key), it might show enough to give me an idea of what's wrong, but full logs are better

[bleak elk]

ehh the car works without the hybrid stuff xd

when i removed the hyrbid tc and changed it to standard tc it worked

[untold stone]

not sure, then 😦 sorry it's not working for you

[bleak elk]

np then

[untold stone]

the gearbox mode issue is the only bug/crash I'm aware of in the current version so I'm not sure what it could be

[open quiver]

A mercedes land speed record prototype, it fascinates me cause of the strange shape and aerodynamic and cause it could have been able to reach 750Km/h (466mph), being theoretically the fastest car in existence (even today) with an internal combustion engine. The car was commissioned by Hitler to show Germany’s power even in that competition but the war started and the story goes on. The original ever existed is in a museum in Germany. If you’re interested just search Mercedes T80.
I thought it would be cool to see it in beamng so I’m trying to do a mod of it, being my first one a lot of time will pass before it will be completed (if it will be), for me is a very interesting car due to those reasons.

[celest mesa]

anyone have a map thats like overgrown? ive seen threads iwth people adding bushes in roads and stuff as such but they rarely actually make it a mod

[silent dune]

You could always go into world editor and mess around

[celest mesa]

yeah im doing that in jungle rock rn

oh crap 3fps

[pure shell]

is iRetr0x in the discord?

@fast drum hello, are you maker of dfa pack

[fast drum]

no i just yoinked his name lmao

[pure shell]

F

[ionic nest]

Alright people wish me luck because today i will try out russian mods

Don't worry because this mod author seems more trustworthy than NET_NUKA

Besides i'm in WorldOfMods

Oh, really

Yes i know that but i'm trying my luck

You know what? I'll give one shot

I'll seek on youtube if this is reviewed

If it is, then i'd be happy

Also i've witnessed a mod repost myself

the Vertex is on russian sites

You know what i'll take your advice

I ain't wanting a Trojan that changes Chrome to an Edge link for local milfs in your area

I wonder if the Drivers, Passengers and Loads mod still works under compatible mods

What i mean is if dummies sit correctly on supported mods

[drowsy frost]

No, he's been banned from this server for some reason.

What do you need to talk to him for?

[latent ivy]

I uploaded a mod to repo last night. Just woke up and it's vanished
No explanation of whether it was accepted, declined, still waiting...
anyone have an idea why?

[granite lodge]

creativity of all time

[dense portal]

⚠️

[latent ivy]

@dense portal whom is that directed to?

[drowsy leaf]

idk i didnt make the configs

ask N0mN0m

[latent ivy]

Who else approves mods besides Car_Killer?

[shadow gorge]

synsol

[latent ivy]

I'm so confused

[shadow gorge]

might be more

[latent ivy]

Has anyone had this happen before?

[shadow gorge]

yes iirc

but idk who it was

[latent ivy]

Did it get posted? Did you get an explanation or anything?

[dense portal]

Law1na

[latent ivy]

oh

What are some of the reasons that an original mod would be removed?

It's not from another game

have you received a notification?

No!

It's just gone

No notification

not in repo

not under my name

It's the Gavril Spitfire, but...

most liekly needs to be approved first

But it would say awaiting moderation no?

i believe so, i haven't uploaded anything to the repo in years at this point

Ah

Cuz I know they weren't inactive...

I'm just wondering if it already exists and idk about iot

[pale leaf]

what's wrong?

sounds good

[granite lodge]

its just that "sky-liner" doesnt seem very creative :ballin:
but mod is good

https://www.beamng.com/resources/1994-etk-k-series.20482/

ballin

[sweet jetty]

[granite lodge]

@lookarse i did advertising where is money

[lunar egret]

gosh

[latent ivy]

Any plans for some Dakar Rally mods?

https://tenor.com/view/t16-wrc-rally-205-peugeot-gif-19391855

https://tenor.com/view/coronel-tim-coronel-tom-coronel-stupid-lol-gif-12500009

That sucks

I hope some Mod Creators make some for BeamNG Drive

[dry lake]

you may not know it
but
this is the first message with brick rigs in it

[fresh ermine]

wow

I almost feel honored

[meager umbra]

congratulations

[icy mesa]

yo

how do i add more mechanical grip?

could someone help

[frank kelp]

Better tires

Better suspension geometry, shocks, roll bars

Etc etc

Anything non-related to aerodynamics

[latent ivy]

Does anyone know if someone has made a right-hand-drive D Series?

[royal coral]

hi guys

[tame crown]

hey

[shadow gorge]

no

@latent ivy remov

thenk

[latent ivy]

[lofty garden]

idk i dont have problem with making model, for me more difficult is writing script

[blissful token]

does this 3d model look good?

too high poly/low poly?

[gloomy olive]

no-

hum3d has bad proportions and its way too high poly

[blissful token]

damn

[gloomy olive]

your better off with a free 3D model or just make your own

[blissful token]

ok

[latent ivy]

I don't make mods

In fact I don't know how to make one

[open quiver]

you can always learn from zero

[drowsy frost]

Exactly

Just learn how

Theres plenty of tutorials

[open quiver]

Today i did the frame (i know it's too much jbeam ecc ecc)

[latent ivy]

My profession is downloading mods not making them

[latent ivy]

what it it is I may ask?

[latent ivy]

then fricking learn

[latent ivy]

jeez

https://tenor.com/view/chill-chill-out-chill-pill-calm-down-chillax-gif-21367936

[open quiver]

"A mercedes land speed record prototype, it fascinates me cause of the strange shape and aerodynamic and cause it could have been able to reach 750Km/h (466mph), being theoretically the fastest car in existence (even today) with an internal combustion engine. The car was commissioned by Hitler to show Germany’s power even in that competition but the war started and the story goes on. The original ever existed is in a museum in Germany. If you’re interested just search Mercedes T80.
I thought it would be cool to see it in beamng so I’m trying to do a mod of it, being my first one a lot of time will pass before it will be completed (if it will be), for me is a very interesting car due to those reasons." i wrote it in response upper here

[latent ivy]

I mean what's the problem

[latent ivy]

interesting

good luck on it

[open quiver]

thanks

[latent ivy]

i have no intention to make a mod

And I also don't have the time

[open quiver]

that's ok and you're right

[latent ivy]

Thanks for your understanding

[latent ivy]

oh ok I understand

[lusty saddle]

why is every saying the 1994 etk k series good mod

[latent ivy]

cuz it is?

[tired coyote]

Because it's dev quality (could be included in the game and no one could tell it's a mod), something that almost no other mod has achieved

It's got everything scratch made

Model, textures, jbeam

[latent ivy]

DaddelZeit is right

it just is

wonderful

[tired coyote]

Lucas even made the suspension components from scratch, not even the Devs do that lol

They just reuse stuff from their other vehicles

[lusty saddle]

no way

[latent ivy]

JBEAM moment

[latent ivy]

yes it is

why do you think that it's a bad mod?

[lusty saddle]

i never said it was bruh

[latent ivy]

ah ok

seems like I missunderstood you

sorry for that

[wooden bolt]

BeamNG community in a nutshell:

[feral rock]

is there any mod for a train flatbed trailer?

[onyx widget]

Guys, where I can download ETK Z-Series?

[granite lodge]

no

dont look for it

its shit

[drowsy leaf]

in the bin

@girl

[wild raft]

What’s the Z series?

[wooden bolt]

Shitty mod from russian sites

[drowsy leaf]

a rebaged z4

[shadow gorge]

a crap unedited k-series jbeam special with a crappy high poly model on top

[drowsy leaf]

unedited too

man,,,,,,,,

[wild raft]

Oh god

[feral rock]

could anyone give me the link to the flying bolide? i cant find it anywhere

[wild raft]

It’s very outdated

[drowsy frost]

The hypber bolide you mean?

[wild raft]

I can provide a flying focus tho

[feral rock]

i know but i had good memories with it back in the day

[drowsy frost]

The hyper bolide works fine, at least, i think it does before i did my own revamp for it.

[feral rock]

could you pass a link?

[wild raft]

No

[drowsy frost]

Not really, since i dont really have perms to release it

its mainly something ive done for myself

[feral rock]

bruh

found a link nvm

[latent ivy]

is there a mod that spinnes the wheels

something like this

[onyx widget]

If it appeared in mods of the week by Dytastic and have been rated good, it means something...

[granite lodge]

it doesnt

whos dytastic

oh yeah no

he downloads mods from third party sites

the z-series is literally a z4 with a barely edited model and stock k-series jbeam

quality modding 2021

[meager umbra]

its in game

look for the wheel rollers in props

[latent ivy]

not like the one in game one that spins the wheels

[lusty saddle]

etk k series 1994 literally crashed my entire game when i crash it

[pure shell]

i just wanted to ask him about the dfa pack lol

[drowsy frost]

Ah

[dense portal]

Wheel rollers exist

[pure shell]

Hey @frank kelp , loving your mod! I have a few suggestions if you are interested in hearing them?

[frank kelp]

I can always listen to your suggestions but no promises I'll actually make them though

[pure shell]

Okay, first is there anyway we can get a 4 speed automatic similar to this?

[frank kelp]

Before you suggest anything more, it's staying manual, rwd, and N/A only.

There will be no automatic and no turbo

[pure shell]

that was my only powertrain suggestion. i love the na engine its amazing.

i love how quickly it revs. really reminds me of miata/s2000

[pure shell]

next, is there any way we could get a different TTSport gauges, similar to this m package gauge cluster

[near vector]

What is the carkour map called made by SpencerJohnson

[stuck wyvern]

to download a mod do i put it in the mods folder right

extract or just copy and paste if so

anyone there

im trying to download the KamAZ 5460 if that helps

ok

just cop paste

mods or vehicles

k

should it work?

it didnt

[jolly bane]

Any dyno's out there?

[limpid lichen]

1990s k series

School bus

Ibishu chisai (may be outdated)

MAN TGS (slightly outdated)

Beaver amphibious vehicle

CH truck

CH classic

ETK truck

[pure shell]

go download dfa pack its amazing!

and the ETK Hybrid by arcanox

[feral rock]

why are there no train wheel mods for heavy vehicles?

like the t-series

or h-d-series

[tall jacinth]

anyone have any beamng mod recommendations?

[drowsy leaf]

you are in the right place

[tall jacinth]

: )

[drowsy leaf]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nDGMjaqJCe0lEckpXurVkV9-Im5kkVxVxfcdGKSUCOg/edit?usp=sharing

i made that a while ago

there are no new mods in there

as im doing a new one

[frank kelp]

yeah that's pretty old

[tall jacinth]

wow there are a lottt of mods

and i dont even know how to install them in to my game

lemme look up a tutorial

[drowsy leaf]

im making an interactive spreedsheet that when you select some tags it lights up the mods tagged with them

thats why i dont update that one

[light prawn]

you're wrong on the Chevrolet and Buick, there's no buicks in that mod, just Oldsmobiles and Chevrolets

[dense portal]

Oooo fancy

[drowsy leaf]

okand

its ol

d

not updating it

[light prawn]

actually the mod still works

[drowsy leaf]

the list

not the mod

[light prawn]

Well I was just saying, but idk when you made that list but that mod never had buicks, even when it was new.

[tall jacinth]

i cant wait to drive the iconic dacia sandero

[drowsy leaf]

i dont review the mods so i didnt know

[tall jacinth]

well iconic in romania but still pumped

[lusty saddle]

@frank kelp hey i think ur etk k series 1994 mod is good but can u add more configs

that will be very nice

[frank kelp]

what exactly do you want me to add

[lusty saddle]

configurations

on the etk k series mod

[frank kelp]

yeah but what configurations

there are plenty right now

[latent ivy]

maybe this thing??

[frank kelp]

hell no

[latent ivy]

thank god

[frank kelp]

I'm not making that, way too much work

[sweet jetty]

wait, what?

[frank kelp]

I already spent like 5 months on the original

[trim gulch]

add drift steering plox

[frank kelp]

included in next update 😎

[latent ivy]

that's a z3 coupe

looks like a wagon doe

[drowsy leaf]

mine?

[lunar egret]

Clownshoe!

[lunar egret]

Ye

[whole ruin]

I don't like begging or bothering the modders, but maybe add a wider fender flares (front and rear), or a wide body variant. So it can fit wider wheels on the 94' K-Series.

[latent ivy]

im not a modder but i was thinking

it is possible to do a mod for the needle sweep?

it will be so cool

[drowsy leaf]

needle sweep?

the heck is that

[latent ivy]

hum like german cars speedometer startup

audi

[drowsy leaf]

ah so the going from 0 to rev limit at startup

[latent ivy]

yesssss

i dont know why but i like its so much

it well be cool like a mod

[dense portal]

for christ's sake

why so assertive

[latent ivy]

go make it your fucking self

I'm tired of beggars

[shadow gorge]

not even a "please" just "make it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[frosty dagger]

i have a question regarding the possibility of a VR mod, because last time i had asked, i was told there was a limitation of having more than one camera in a scene at once, but i had just remembered recently about the built-in Local multiplayer, would it be possible to use the code to create another camera needed for Keyboard VR?

multiseat, that's the name of it

shit, forgot it wasn't splitscreen as i thought it was