mods-discussion

[devout solstice]

I thought it was the underside of a boat

[keen cosmos]

lmao

[devout solstice]

it looks really good

[midnight summit]

Oh is that a semi trailer? That looks cool!

[keen cosmos]

i have to load it in game but thanks

not a semi trailer lol

[devout solstice]

bruh I have to load my model in game

it it just crashes cause it don't have flexbodies

[midnight summit]

A something trailer

[devout solstice]

a trailer bed

[midnight summit]

It looks like a thing you put a boat on

[devout solstice]

I said it was a boat

[keen cosmos]

its a twocar trailer but thanks ig

[midnight summit]

That’s not a boat!

[keen cosmos]

yep

[midnight summit]

What do you put on it

[keen cosmos]

have you ever seen a trailer....

[midnight summit]

Yes but what is that one for?

[keen cosmos]

2 cars

[midnight summit]

Ah yes ok

[keen cosmos]

cars in beam are just long

its a tad long than 2 box utility trailers in game

[devout solstice]

no

boat

[keen cosmos]

yep

[midnight summit]

Is this released or no I’m confused because he’s saying it’s for a boat, and you’re saying it’s for 2 cars

[keen cosmos]

this is not released, I'm making it. he has no affiliation with me

[midnight summit]

Oh ok

I can’t wait till it comes out!

[keen cosmos]

thx

[devout solstice]

wdym I have no affiliation with u

I worked on this with u for the last year already

[shy magnet]

i cant wait because ima have my crawlers on it

[devout solstice]

smh doesn't even know mod buddies

[keen cosmos]

you are crazy dude. I've only been working on this for like 2 weeks and that's for like and hour a day. please don't try to claim credit for work you absolutely Did not do.

[shy magnet]

bru

[devout solstice]

bruh I'm kidding good job man

[shy magnet]

^

plus ima put crawlers on it that dooesnt mean its mine

[keen cosmos]

not you beast, but not joking thats literally the reason why i wanted to make this

[shy magnet]

ahh ok

i was confused i was like bru ima use it and possibly find a bug or 2 and tow my rock crawlers speeking of that

[keen cosmos]

ppfff no bugs from me 😉

[exotic sigil]

will it have a boxed version 🤔

[shy magnet]

not a bad idea

[keen cosmos]

so i wanted to make this first so i can learn a bit more but yes there will be

[shy magnet]

yesssss

[keen cosmos]

thats easy, i only need to figure out one last thing lul

textures

[shy magnet]

i mean textures are easy but not easy

[keen cosmos]

i can uv unwrap but when it comes to getting it to load in game, it just never works

[keen cosmos]

Heres whats done so far, ignore the fact there isnt a model lol 🙂

[harsh coyote]

you could slightly improve the rigifiers

from what I see both rigifiers each connect to all nodes of the deck

what you can do is basically have an overlap of 2 rows of nodes

and then connect the 2 rigifiers together via one stiffer beam

saves up some unwanted stress in the structure and overally makes the thing more stable

[keen cosmos]

thank you

[shy magnet]

Nice job so far man

[devout solstice]

why is making the jbeam actually not that complicated in a sense

i say that until i do it

[keen cosmos]

lul yea gl

[devout solstice]

i understand the noding process

its pretty easy

but bet everything else is going to be difficult

[keen cosmos]

are you doing it all in notepad++ or Nbe

[devout solstice]

im pretty sure its going to be all notepad++

cause wtf is nbe lol

[keen cosmos]

node beam editor

[devout solstice]

i was literally going to say that

[keen cosmos]

yep

[devout solstice]

yes i will use it

isn't it easier

since u can move nodes around

[keen cosmos]

no, use it just to visualize what youre doing and yea and a few other things

[devout solstice]

oh damn yeah alright

ill get it rn

[keen cosmos]

you already have it if you have beam installed

[devout solstice]

bruh where is it located?

[devout solstice]

thank you lots man

if nbe exists, is there really a point to use notepad for nodes?

[keen cosmos]

people say it crashes alot. but it has never just randomly crashed with me. with that being said, save your work often

[devout solstice]

yes thank you

[keen cosmos]

because nbe is limited and its faster to do in notepad

[devout solstice]

wdym by limited?

[polar cedar]

nbe is really bad
it corrupts files, it places nodes in the wrong place (in the file) often, you cant get exact values, the nodes always end up with a bunch of extra 000s on the end of their location

[fossil ore]

yes nbe is bad

[keen cosmos]

^^^^

[fossil ore]

i agree

[keen cosmos]

thats why

[devout solstice]

so do you recommend me to keep using notepad?

[polar cedar]

notepad++

[devout solstice]

alright thank you

ill just use nbe to visualize the nodes

[keen cosmos]

still better to check ingame

[polar cedar]

why not just use the game to do that

[midnight nacelle]

don't use stock notepad lol

[fossil ore]

you can also use blender directly to approximate node coordinates

[midnight nacelle]

notepad++ always

[devout solstice]

because ill just have to zip everything up and keep exiting the game

or is there an easier way

[keen cosmos]

isnt the blender plugin like ass

[polar cedar]

no?

[fossil ore]

what

[devout solstice]

oh what

wait

[polar cedar]

just press ctrl+r

[devout solstice]

no

[fossil ore]

use unpacked mods

[devout solstice]

im stupid

[keen cosmos]

unpacked yea lol

noob

[fossil ore]

lol

[keen cosmos]

does the blender plugin work alright?

[polar cedar]

sorta but its better just to directly copy the blender verticies coordinates to the jbeam

[keen cosmos]

bruh you can do that

[devout solstice]

i got muted lmao

yes im doing that in blender too

[keen cosmos]

wasnt a long enough mute then jk

[devout solstice]

bruh

though creating nodes is somewhat amusing

even though its basically just repeating everything

is it a big deal if the node coordinates accidently have the wrong value than in blender?

like im talking about hundredths

of a decimal

[polar cedar]

not a big deal at all

unless you want something to be super accurate

like suspension measurements

[devout solstice]

so what decimal point should i stop typing the coordinates at?

right now im doing the full value

[polar cedar]

it really only needs to be the first 2

so 0.13

or first 3 if you want

[devout solstice]

oh okay thank you

[shy magnet]

doing the crawler etki

[calm hinge]

Yeah, for 99% of stuff 2 is fine.

I use 3 or 4 in some situations like suspension geometry

Also, plz check vanilla car node naming

Pure sequential node name = pain to make beams and just maintain in general.

[devout solstice]

wdym by vanilla car node naming

[calm hinge]

Open up a vanilla car in-game and use the debug tools like ctrl-n

Essentially there is a kind of structure to naming nodes, based on their position within the vehicles structure.

[devout solstice]

oh god

[calm hinge]

Which helps know which node is what at a glance.

It's not required

[devout solstice]

i just named it like "sf#"

sf = side fenders

[calm hinge]

But having some sort of rule that makes sense in your head helps a ton

[devout solstice]

since im doing that

yes ik

[calm hinge]

I mean, nothing wrong with sf.

[shy magnet]

U guys aren't talking about my crawler right

[calm hinge]

But the main thing I'd make sure to do, which IMHO makes a huge difference, is symetry with an l/r suffix

[shy magnet]

Ur talking of his bike

[devout solstice]

so i/r stands for

and yes the bike

[shy magnet]

Oh kk

[calm hinge]

l = left side of the vehicle

r = right side

With the rest being the same

[devout solstice]

oh okay got it

[calm hinge]

So sf1r and sf1l are at the same position on each side of the bike for example

[devout solstice]

yes i understand

thank you so much

[calm hinge]

Since the majority of structures in beam are symetric

👍

[devout solstice]

this is my first time jbeaming so im pretty happy

[calm hinge]

You seem to be doing fairly well for now 🙂

[devout solstice]

"for now"

[calm hinge]

hehe

But yeah, if you have weird issues that you play with for like 15-30 minutes and it still doesn't work.

Don't hesitate to ask, a few of us have been in that situation before 😂

[devout solstice]

yes thank you lots man

half the time im not going to understand what to do

so i appreciate the support

[calm hinge]

TBH with jbeam the best way to learn is to try

And see what works or doesn't with experience.

[shy magnet]

@polar cedar u aren't mad right

That ima do the suspension for etk

And such

Well etki

[polar cedar]

what?

why would i be mad?

[shy magnet]

Ur crawler u did with the suspension u said u were going to do more eventually

It doesn't matter I guess

[polar cedar]

oh yeah i wont be doing any more excep for the 200bx one

[shy magnet]

Oh really

Hmm maby d series will happen

Eventually

[polar cedar]

the devs are already doing that

[shy magnet]

Oh really

Ok never mind

Didnt know

Are they doing it on a bunch of them

Or just d series

[devout solstice]

how tf am i suppose to keep track of which node coordinates i already put

[polar cedar]

just d-series

how tf am i suppose to keep track of which node coordinates i already put
by using a workflow from liek front to back

or by hiding the ones youve done

[devout solstice]

may i also use nbe's visualizer

i tried separating the nodes by layers

[shy magnet]

Ok

[calm hinge]

Yeah...

That's too many nodes

[shy magnet]

Hmmm

[devout solstice]

bruh

[calm hinge]

Check vanilla vehicles for node density

[shy magnet]

Hey it is

[devout solstice]

aw im so done for bruh

[calm hinge]

Like that panel could probably be a 2x2 node structure and work fine.

[devout solstice]

so like from one end is one node, and the other end is another?

[calm hinge]

wait, 3x3

I'm getting too tired 😂

[devout solstice]

lmao here ill sketch what i think ur saying

so like the blue thing is just the removed nodes

[shy magnet]

Well lj can I do the older car next

[devout solstice]

so basically create nodes around the perimeter?

[shy magnet]

Or do u not car

[devout solstice]

what

[shy magnet]

Care

Lj

Crgz um so

[devout solstice]

yes what

[shy magnet]

Let me see so from red nose up to last mode in between delete those

[devout solstice]

bruh what

[shy magnet]

Red node

[devout solstice]

yes

im loading up beam rn

to see the nodes

bruh i cant read node

[shy magnet]

What do u mean

Zoom in

[devout solstice]

ok i fixed it

its better right lol

basically the entire fender

or is it still too many

[shy magnet]

I think so

[devout solstice]

heres the updated one

forgot 2 more points

at the top right

top left **

[shy magnet]

Ahh

Ehh should be good

[devout solstice]

alright thank you

just duplicated the otherside too

[shy magnet]

Hmm

Burnside is next to get suspension of the hopper

[devout solstice]

shit i just noticed that when i was doing the bottom fender that it was so out of place in nbe, its because my model isn't centered and all origins aren't set to the center (3d cursor). When i try to set everything to the 3d cursor, everything is messed up

are there any other suggestions

[cunning zodiac]

https://tinyurl.com/y6tuawev

[harsh coyote]

@devout solstice You don't need to exactly follow the shape of the mesh

with that shape the jbeam doesn't need any more than 5 nodes for the whole side panel

4 main shape nodes

and one rigifier

[umbral snow]

mayhaps

(jaiden license plate yems)

[raven adder]

Is there other websites besides the official site to download mods?

Like safe too

[smoky oriole]

basically no, except beam-monsters for the CRD monstertruck.

[devout solstice]

@harsh coyote whats a rigifier?

these are composed of two different fenders

so is that okay?

the side fender still has more nodes than what you said but i can't seem to find the smallest amount of nodes i can put

[harsh coyote]

rigifier is the node that stabilizes otherwise pretty flat structure

its often non collidable and hangs somewhere on top, by the side or under the main plane of nodes

[devout solstice]

is a rigifier needed?

[harsh coyote]

unless you want the panel to flop around like a wet noodle when you detach it

as for jbeaming such a small part

this is what I'd do

with a rigifier hanging off somewhere next

and ofc add some crosses to it

[devout solstice]

can u draw where you'd recommend the rigifier to be put?

[devout solstice]

oh shit

[harsh coyote]

this would be the main structure

[devout solstice]

how do i make the nodes cross eachother?

[harsh coyote]

those are beams

[devout solstice]

i know but like

is that later in the beaming sequence

[harsh coyote]

yellow - nodes
red- beams

as for rigifier

I assume this is a side panel looking from the side of the bike right?

[devout solstice]

yep

[harsh coyote]

is it flat -ish?

or round

[harsh coyote]

ah

so slightly bigger than expected

[devout solstice]

so somewhere in the middle?

[devout solstice]

oh so the middle is the rigifier

or somewhat middle

[devout solstice]

jeez man thank you so much

thats actually helpful

btw whats that green marking

[harsh coyote]

green is the rigifier

[devout solstice]

oh yes alright

[harsh coyote]

around the center of the panel

[devout solstice]

so for the rigifier i need to set the collision to be off?

[harsh coyote]

moved to around where the radiator is

yes

and rigifier should be connected to all of the other nodes of the panel

[devout solstice]

alright ill do that and get back to you quickly

thank you so much again

[harsh coyote]

if you have issue with getting the weight of the panel down (beamng doesn't like light objects) you can remove the center yellow node

its pretty much the main reason why you should keep the node count down on projects like that

[devout solstice]

ah alright yes thank you

so

this node weight affects all the nodes?

[harsh coyote]

all the nodes below

yes

and its weight per node in KGs

panel like that IRL is what? around 1 KG or so

or less if carbon fiber

but carbon fiber is insanely hard to simulate

since its quite stiff

and really light

[devout solstice]

its not cf dw

[harsh coyote]

which is something beamng physics engine hates

[devout solstice]

lmao its just metal so its all good

how would i change an individual node weight if all of them are being affected by that?

[harsh coyote]

you can put that same argument in line

or just do
-nodeweight

node

nodeweight

node

and so on

[devout solstice]

oh yes thank you so much

so heres what i have rn

"sfrgl" is side fender rigifier left

[harsh coyote]

nodeweight 0 will just result in explosion

[devout solstice]

bruh

so i just remove that

[harsh coyote]

put it at like 0.5

and rest at around 0.75

low beamspring on nodes

and low beamdamp

and start fine tuning from that

[devout solstice]

how much is 1 weight in terms of kg irl?

[harsh coyote]

1 kg

[devout solstice]

ah alright thanks man

whats considered a "low" value for beamspring and beamdamp?

[harsh coyote]

start with something around 5000 beamspring at 50 damp

[devout solstice]

thank you so much

[devout solstice]

got the beams for the side fenders like u said

is that looking good?

[harsh coyote]

alright I guess

if I were you

I'd start with the frame

[keen cosmos]

^

[harsh coyote]

and get all the functional components working

before doing bodywork

[devout solstice]

im doing the main chassis

which is everything but the wheels, triple clamp, exhaust and etc

does that count as the frame

[shy magnet]

??

decal

hmm ok

[devout solstice]

instead of going like this for the beams

can i go like this

[harsh coyote]

uh

you have to have a frame of sorts for those bits to attach to

as well as the whole suspension and whatever you come up with for rider simulation

since a motorcycle without a rider is uncontrollable

[devout solstice]

bruh, so I basically screwed up cause ion have a frame

[keen cosmos]

wdym you dont have a frame lol

[devout solstice]

I have a chassis

which include everything but the wheels and triple clamp

so is that good enough

[calm hinge]

Yeah, the panels you made a fine, since they're separate parts to attach to the chassis.

But what I generally reccomend is the first thing you put in game is what I'd call a "minimum viable car"

So the main chassis, suspension, steering.

So there's less stuff to go wrong

And so you can work on the most important part.

[devout solstice]

i mean, technically i named these two parts the chassis

so the fenders, tank and tail parts can stick onto those i suppose

[harsh coyote]

you should have something along those lines underneeth

[devout solstice]

jesus, i don't have much space to make the frame like that

i looked through the jbeam of Darren9's bike mod and his frame was just the chassis/body of the bike

so what i'm trying to say/whats going on in my mind is that i could have the entire bike body as the main chassis. No sub parts and such

[harsh coyote]

then you shouldn't jbeam them individually

instead

essentially jbeam the whole body with preferably as low node density as possible

start by positioning chassis nodes where pivot points for the suspension would be, sping mounts etc

then make a rough shape of the bike and connect all that together

the simpler it is

the better

[devout solstice]

yes thats what im doing. Every node is in the slot: "Main Chassis"

its just the naming thats different to correlate with the different parts of the chassis

[harsh coyote]

don't see the point if for example the left engine cover will only be 2 nodes

you could probably get the whole general bike frame at around 20 nodes

[devout solstice]

will it affect the way it crashes?

what are the pros in making different parts a separate slot and have their own node groups?

[harsh coyote]

you can remove them in parts selector

what I thought you were doing before with individual panels and stuff would look neat in crashes with panels flying off

but otherwise would be really hard to tune and generally a pain

[devout solstice]

ah that may be too complex for a beginner like me

maybe once i get it in game and get more experience, ill make multiple slots for the mod

[devout solstice]

What's wrong with having a lot of nodes and beams? like how does it affect the crash?

as u can see, the node group is the main chassis (wip) and it looks like it has many nodes/beams. This group consists of the side, front and bottom fenders, and mirrors.

if you look at the bottom left of the image, there are only 56 nodes and 52 beams, is that somewhat reasonable?

[calm hinge]

The issue with having a lot of nodes and beams is mostly two things

It makes it take longer to jbeam the whole thing

And weight

Weight is a big issue. Essentially due to engine limitations, there is a limitation to how stiff you can make a beam based on the weight of the two nodes it's attached to.

[devout solstice]

oh damn

can't i just set the weight lower then?

cause i have this rn

u can see the front coming together

[calm hinge]

If you set the weight too low, you're limited in how rigid it can be.

The sides panels and under panel aren't too bad

Windscreen looks node heavy

[devout solstice]

the nodes that don't have beams are the mirrors

[calm hinge]

You can make mirrors with 5 nodes each.

[devout solstice]

ik i can but my brain is stupid af and i don't know where to move the nodes

[calm hinge]

And I'd remove the nodes at the mase of the mirror

[devout solstice]

like all of them?

[calm hinge]

yeah

[devout solstice]

then what node would i connect the mirror nodes to?

the ffrgr/ffrgl?

[calm hinge]

The mirror itself should be jbeamed as a pyramid.

Then connect to various nodes on the windscreen

[devout solstice]

oh yes ill try that rq, thank you

[calm hinge]

But yeah, since you're making a fairly light vehicle, optimizing node count is fairly important.

[devout solstice]

alright, thank you for always helping me bruh

[calm hinge]

👍

[devout solstice]

if i do end up finishing this, do you mind if i credit you for the help?

[calm hinge]

No need 😛

Unless you want to

[devout solstice]

i do, you've been really helpful

[midnight nacelle]

trackpad good

[calm hinge]

Example

Also, gotta love when you look back at your own stuff after a few months

And are wondering why the hell you did something 😂

I have no idea why I added a windshield rigidifier node

A pair actually

[devout solstice]

ikr, but ill still be proud since it'll be my first mod

the blues are rigifiers?

[calm hinge]

Blue are no-collision nodes, but yeah, those of those are rigidifiers.

For a quick TL:DR, rigidifier nodes are used when making flat structures.

So it holds itself together.

[devout solstice]

ah yes alright, so is it only used for flats? or may it be used in curved structures

cause my bike is everywhere from flats to its curvy ass

[calm hinge]

Yes

It's mainly for stuff that doesn't hold itself together well

And can't be rigidified by connecting nodes together

Like for your chassis you can make something box shaped

That holds itself together on its own

[devout solstice]

but the collision is going to be so off

[calm hinge]

nah

You can get away with a surprising amount of stuff

[devout solstice]

im keen on detail which is why im always doing and saying these things

[calm hinge]

The superlite hood for example is a 3x3 flat plane with a rigidifier node

[devout solstice]

damn alright ill try to make more

and fix the mirrors as well

[calm hinge]

The exhaust is a long cube with 2 added nodes at the back to align the particle emission

Really the important bit is to have :
-Enough node density to allow bending when needed, but not too much.
-Making sure that things mostly collide correctly

Jbeaming really is an art

[devout solstice]

im trying to look at it as art and not masses of repetitive coding lol

but it is fun

heres the front fender

[midnight nacelle]

jbeam requirements:
-notepad++
-brain
guess which one im missing

[devout solstice]

brain

[midnight nacelle]

false

notepad++

[devout solstice]

i beg to differ

[calm hinge]

superlite front fender as an other example

[devout solstice]

trackpad does the front fender minus the mirror nodes look good enough

ah yes

[calm hinge]

Looks alright

The fender is a bit wobbly when broken off, but when it's on the car it looks mostly fine, using the hub itself as the rigidifier.

Looks much better than the V1 fenders at least 😂

[devout solstice]

lmfao

[calm hinge]

Chassis is also super simple, it's essentially a 2x3x6 box, with suspension mounts added.

[devout solstice]

its difficult to compare bike and car chassis together with nodes though, cars are technically boxy af and bikes have a slim ass and a thick front, though i can manage it

[calm hinge]

You can still probably model the chassis itself with something that's fairly boxy

It's really important that whatever connects the front and rear wheel is properly rigid

Else you end up with wet spaghettit

Like early versions of the autobello buggy 😛

[devout solstice]

btw im stopping at the gas tank since its going to be its own thing where the fuel is "stored", do i make it another "slot" or "group"

[devout solstice]

wait what language do i use when doing the jbeam

is it just normal text

[raven tide]

C# i think

[devout solstice]

i think isn't very helpful

[calm hinge]

It's mostly JSON

[devout solstice]

like the .jbeam file uses JSON

cause my info.txt uses it as well

[raven tide]

yep!

[devout solstice]

alright thats prolly why its broken

[terse saddle]

im making a ferrari

bmaybe for beamng?

i improved

my modeling skills

[tame crown]

what ferrari model?

[devout solstice]

so far looking good i think?

[hallow carbon]

nice

[latent ivy]

@desert shard

[desert shard]

instrument of fire and sometimes airborne travel

[serene mica]

This might be a dumb question, but how do I access jbeam

[keen cosmos]

notepad++ or node beam editor

@serene mica

[serene mica]

Thanks

[raven adder]

on the d15 technical, everytime i spawn it, the gun doesnt spawn on the truck

what is wrong with it?

[crude apex]

what is the zip file name for ibishu portrait

[raven adder]

what max amount of mods u can have

like is there a limit>?

[tame crown]

no limit at all

[keen cosmos]

i have 150 lol

[tame crown]

I have a lot but

I keep some somewhere else if I'm not using them

[keen cosmos]

really just depends on your system, more mods means less fps

[tame crown]

yeah blender is the most used

depending on what kind of mod

idk

maybe

[feral pawn]

is there a way to put an i5 in the covet?

[tame crown]

modzzz

[feral pawn]

yeah i can't find any mods to do it

[tight wedge]

yeah i can't find any mods to do it
@feral pawn I think the wbimp mod adds an i5 engine

[fossil yacht]

I believe there are universal I5 mods

[tame crown]

WAIT

i think rk engines has a i5

[feral pawn]

rk doesn't work for me for some reason
It works on the 200bx but not on any others

[shy magnet]

is a modder able to help with getting a custom trailer in and then materials for another trailer

im trying to be of help

to people

if not then thats ok

and u will get screenshots

thats it

[raven adder]

ahh nice thanks guys

[latent ivy]

Do the devs use Blender to create their vehicles etc?

[vast atlas]

yes

[latent ivy]

is there a guide how to do that? I mean i can handle Blender but idk anything about stuff like converting to beamng

[fossil ore]

what are you trying to do

[latent ivy]

@fossil ore trying something stupid tbh

[tame crown]

wiki can tell you i think

https://wiki.beamng.com/Creating_A_Simple_Addon

[shy magnet]

making trailer

struts are next

using some beamng stuff so woo to beam devs

[lament hemlock]

Ok

[tame crown]

theres a lot of mods

theres one called wbimp

its pretty cool

[lament hemlock]

Google chrome wont let me download the crash test hall 😒

[tame crown]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/wbimp-game-expansion.6880/

@lament hemlock uh

it says cant download right?

something like that

right?

[midnight nacelle]

arrow > keep

[tame crown]

@lament hemlock click the up arrow

then press keep

idk why chrome does that its annoying asf lol

[lament hemlock]

Ooooohhhhhhhh

Okayyyy

I seee

[tame crown]

theres a mod called roth alpha

its pretty cool

one of my favs

[lament hemlock]

Cool

[shy magnet]

everyone u get a vote what trailer tires shoul i use or model

gotta make the wheel whels

[shy magnet]

got arid of that one and going to make this one

[supple plover]

Das one old blender version

[midnight nacelle]

2.79 moment

[shell oriole]

erm, why is my sbr invisible?

[polar quarry]

alt h

[tame crown]

yes maybe the rest is hidden

or something

[shell oriole]

this apparently only happens to the sbr

[supple plover]

^bolide

[pearl night]

how do i contact turn 10 to get sound files?

[desert shard]

you don't

if by some miracle they let you use their sounds
it would likely have a massive pricetag behind the licensing agreement

[fossil yacht]

Turn 10 sounds are notoriously bad anyways

[desert shard]

their SR20 is about the most accurate

the recording quality matches the diarhea tones of it quite well

[pearl night]

i like the sound of the '17 raptor

[sharp marten]

does anyone know any dds image editors that are free

[desert shard]

paint.net

[smoky oriole]

erm, why is my sbr invisible?
@shell oriole the Alpha on the materials is set to zero. go to the materials tab, scroll down to viewport display, and make both coloured suqres have an A value of 1.000

[shell oriole]

figured it out, thank you tho!

[undone tulip]

is there a mod that looks like this

[hushed cobalt]

Not as far as I know

Would be cool though

[undone tulip]

Yeah

my mom owns that thing

you can probably guess what im trying to do ingame

[graceful hatch]

OMYGOD TERIOS

[tame crown]

wat

[graceful hatch]

I HAVE A TERIOS

I NEED A MOD THAT ADDS THAT INTO THE GAM

I have the long version (F700)

[tight ore]

bruh chill

you do not 'need' anything

if you want it enough you'll make it yourself

[rugged elm]

facts

[tame crown]

facts

[spring shale]

facts

[restive arrow]

id rather do more common cars anyway

[undone tulip]

@graceful hatch i found one close enough on automation

2 door tho

[graceful hatch]

Nice

[undone tulip]

I remember having a monster truck mod a while back but uh no clue where it went

[pulsar parrot]

@undone tulip they removed it from the forum and made a website for it

beam monsters.com or sumn

[devout kraken]

unless it's the og monster truck mod based on the d series

[pulsar parrot]

no they have them all there @devout kraken

[undone tulip]

I thought it didn't work

I just didn't see the download button

[pulsar parrot]

yeah you have to make a account lol

[meager bramble]

if anyone has watched cleetus's recent video this might look familiar

[keen cosmos]

wrong color 😦

[meager bramble]

getting there lol i just started

miramar driveshaft is trash so i have to fix that

[meager bramble]

how hard is it to do a suspension conversion? the rear suspension on a miramar is dog

[keen cosmos]

maybe just edit the jbeam and make it all stronger lol

[meager bramble]

nah its leaf spring

swapping it atm

[keen cosmos]

ah weird

need a 4 link lol

[meager bramble]

alright got the suspension swapped

[meager bramble]

pretty happy with how it handles

[keen cosmos]

swapped from what

[meager bramble]

cmon that should be easy

[keen cosmos]

hmmmm vivace?

[meager bramble]

si

[keen cosmos]

noice

[meager bramble]

only issue tho

[keen cosmos]

what is it

[keen cosmos]

lmao

[meager bramble]

she wideeee

[keen cosmos]

can you just edit the jbeam to allow you to turn the wheel offset way down

i mean the hubs would prob show

[meager bramble]

yeah thats the issue the suspension is rally so its almost long travel

[keen cosmos]

soo are you going to make a war bird skin to really make the car lol

[meager bramble]

nope i do not mess with textures or skins, i know a few people that can probably make it

[keen cosmos]

i thought about it, but id make it. enjoy it once and probably not mess with it again

[meager bramble]

thats how i am with alot of my mods, but i do update them if needed

[keen cosmos]

lmao, im bad about that with my mods

[meager bramble]

this thing handles soooo good

[midnight cove]

is there a reason no one is yet to make skins for the prasu?

[tame crown]

i mean

[devout kraken]

it's because the mesh is mirrored

which means skins don't come out well

[tame crown]

oh

[devout kraken]

i know, however, that jerrie did it somehow

[tame crown]

im not really a fan of the prasu

i mean the interior is

eh

[midnight cove]

hmm

[tame crown]

otherwise the exterior is good

[midnight cove]

wouldn't u still be able to slap the f&f sticker on it?

[feral pawn]

Anyone know a good rx7 mod?

I can only find automation ones

[fossil yacht]

There was a good one but it is broken for me and is unsupported

https://beamng.com/threads/mazda-rx-7-iii-updated.57461/

If it works for you, it should be a solid mod

[tame crown]

@fossil yacht nah it's broken

[fossil yacht]

Ok

[tame crown]

but I think if you spawn a config without rear seats it won't crash the game

[fossil yacht]

Hmm

Strange

[tame crown]

idk haven't tried it

just saw someone saying that in like the last pages of the thread

[fossil yacht]

Interesting

[onyx dirge]

Suddenly got some motivation to at least fix some things up on the indycar jbeam

Removed 6 nodes so far

[rugged nacelle]

Does anyone know what ever happened to this? https://www.beamng.com/threads/nürburgring.63499/

[calm hinge]

Thread was created in 2019, and I don't remember ever hearing him talk about that track, so my guess is canceled?

The answer

[latent ivy]

I don't think it will be released.

[calm hinge]

At least not in the short term for sure

But motivation for specific projects tends to come and go.

I mean, just scroll up a tiny bit and you can see Dummiesman working on his indycar project again, which had been on ice for a while.

[rugged nacelle]

pain

[latent ivy]

true

[pliant dirge]

Does anyone know how to download or where to download like branded mods? Like I’ve seen YouTube videos of BeamNG gameplay and they have like some Chevy cars and stuff and I’m not sure where to find that

[devout kraken]

they're usually low-quality mods seen on shoddy sites

you can find real life cars on the official forum, there are plenty

[pliant dirge]

Haha yeah I was kind of thinking that 😂, alright thanks 👍

[devout kraken]

yw

[rugged wasp]

I kind of had the same question. I've seen BMW logos

which brings me to this: total newbie here with a dumb question, so go easy on me. haha When I search for a mod in the repository, is that everything available? I've seen videos of a BMW e46 but a search isn't turning up anything

Am I not seeing them because they got them from shoddy sites?

[devout kraken]

probably yes
or they are possibly private

[rugged wasp]

So are there other mods in the forum that aren't in the repository? or are those the same

[devout kraken]

some mods are released solely on the forum, so yes there are mods on the forum but not on the repo

[rugged wasp]

oh ok. So you're talking about the beamng.com mods forum?

[devout kraken]

yes

[rugged wasp]

thank you for your help! I just know to stay away from random mod sites. Apparently.

[latent ivy]

What's a good hot rod mod, something with pre ww2 cars.

[devout kraken]

the crashhard classic

https://www.beamng.com/resources/crashhard-classic.14206/

[feral pawn]

but I think if you spawn a config without rear seats it won't crash the game
@tame crown rx7's don't have rear seats

They have storage compartments in the back

[tame crown]

Subaru BRZ thread @feral pawn

[feral pawn]

This is what the back of an rx7 is like

It has two storage compartments

[tame crown]

hmm

[feral pawn]

That's why I'm confused does he mean those?

[tame crown]

idk

[rich oar]

they can be toilets if you’re brave enough

[thorny lantern]

@tame crown Mod works great! Don't know if you cared or not but I figured I might as well let you know that it still works fine, in case you wanted to play with it too, doesn't even require legacy wheels.

[tame crown]

@thorny lantern epic

ima check it out later

thanks

[thorny lantern]

Yes one thing you should know

the claw is a separate vehicle

along with the bucket and other tools for the tractor

took me a bit to find it

[tame crown]

hm

how do I attach it?

[thorny lantern]

just connect it like you would a trailer

make sure you are lined up tho

or it gets stuck

so yeah thats about it

[tame crown]

ah ok thanks!

[thorny lantern]

np thank you for helping me

[tacit wigeon]

Does anyone one know any good off roading maps?

[neat hinge]

I think that's where the Apex seals and oil top up bottles go. But then I think they would be quite shallow.

[fossil yacht]

Try 4x4 Island

It will either make you rage quit or you wil love it

Maybe both

[tacit wigeon]

Ok thanks

[rugged nacelle]

What're the legalities/possibilities of importing nurinburgring from asseto corsa to beam

[fossil yacht]

Legalities? It isn't legal due to copyright, but you aren't selling it or profiting from it so the chances of you getting DMCA'd are tiny. Possibilities? It is possible, it has been done

[rugged nacelle]

I might buy asseto just to try, gonna have to figure out how to tho

[fossil yacht]

Well, good luck!

[supple timber]

Assetto corsa devs have already taken mods down from beamng's forum in the past so I wouldn't bother.

[rugged nacelle]

yikes ok

I mean I'm not making it to upload it anywhere tbh

[exotic sigil]

can you try importing some maps from flatout 2 tho @rugged nacelle

👀

[rugged nacelle]

uh so I figured out importing a map so big would literally be next to impossible for me

sorry

but I'll check it out

[exotic sigil]

some of the maps arent that big

i thought of importing the big-8 map

idk how to do that kind of stuff tho

[meager bramble]

so im back working on the miramar suspension, should i make another version that has shortened suspension?

[velvet wasp]

oof i6 miramar?

[rugged nacelle]

2jz miramar when 😳

[meager bramble]

thats my diesel miramar, and viramar setup

[keen cosmos]

😳

[meager bramble]

need a AWD setup

[keen cosmos]

thatd be neat

[meager bramble]

its gonna be a pain due to the vivace being a transaxle in the front

[meager bramble]

doing some improves to the alignment to get everything straight as possible

[rocky heart]

Anyone here good at making engines?

Not like... From scratch. But basically power curves and stuff.

[tame crown]

œ

We can all agree though

the community is a mess

lmao

tbh it's the most toxic one I been in

well there are other toxic ones but this one is

agre

at this rate it'll most likely be ded

[fossil yacht]

Yeah, once the 12 year olds found rhe game it was all over

[tame crown]

yeah tbh everyday there is some fight going on in #screenshots

mod beggars destroyed the forums and took it over

[fossil yacht]

Amd then many of the good modders stopped modding as a result of the beggars

pretty sure i heard that jsz was told that if he kept posting screenshots he would be banned
@eternal grail
I didn't hear that, I believe he just said he was done with the community and how toxic it was

[tame crown]

did JsZ leave this Discord

I mean

[fossil yacht]

He did, completely

[tame crown]

f

well

[fossil yacht]

That is honestly kinda effed up

[tame crown]

now this server feels more quiet

[fossil yacht]

But it isn't wrong

Sadly posting private mods does that

[harsh coyote]

@eternal grail you're now twisting fact

[fossil yacht]

Which one?

[harsh coyote]

I didn't tell him to stop posting screenshots

[tame crown]

Facts do like to get twisted

[harsh coyote]

theres a huge difference between posting a screenshot of your work

[fossil yacht]

I wouldn't be shocked if they were twisted, this is third or fourth hand info

[tame crown]

yeh

[harsh coyote]

and posting a screenshot to lure someone new to ask about releasing it

at which point buddies from his discord jumped in and started a flamewar

[tame crown]

not a flame war

a nuclear war

lmao

you know the slowmode, several people typing

is in #screenshots

[fossil yacht]

This is what BliJo said

[tame crown]

ww3

everyone joins

mhhm construct

tbh he was begging

[fossil yacht]

Sorta

[tame crown]

he said "y no relez" or something like that

[fossil yacht]

He was just asking if it would be released at first

That isn't begging, but it spiraled into begging

[tame crown]

that BMW looks clean doe

thats why i like beemers

or bimmers

[fossil yacht]

It does, all the faceswaps look nice

[hushed cobalt]

Oh god, the alts

[tame crown]

but then

[harsh coyote]

its not begging

[tame crown]

well it kindaaa is

[harsh coyote]

its more of a defense in context of how they were bullying him

[hushed cobalt]

He maybe just was wondering

[harsh coyote]

for some of the stuff he said about modding

granted, stuff he said wasn't exactly nice

[tame crown]

the way he said y not release it sounds a bit rude to be honest

[harsh coyote]

however, we are here to deal with that stuff and not you as rest of community

[tame crown]

^

True

[hushed cobalt]

Indeed

[tame crown]

If a person is begging, don't be rude

[fossil yacht]

Yea

[tame crown]

Fighting back makes the fight longer or something lol

chat is silent now

[fossil yacht]

Hi!

[hushed cobalt]

Hi

[tame crown]

H

[supple timber]

more than one person is allowed to make face swapped content 😐 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/736165909491875881/780097750921773076/image2.png this literally means nothing especially when you consider JsZ wasn't the first to subaru face swap the sunburst.

https://beamng.com/resources/sh3lbye-sunburst-facelift.1606/ "First Release:Nov 17, 2016"

[tame crown]

bro I was just looking for one

thank you

nobody copied anything

we aren't blaming him ofc lol

well we aren't accusing him

agree

[cloud pike]

By no means no one wants to accuse anyone, unfortunately though when someone asked about his (and anyone elses private mods for that matter) they would occasionally get bombarded by others in a manner that would be like cyber bullying, and that has driven people off the server before for simply asking.
I don't agree with begging or repetitive questioning and I do issue warnings when it comes to that too. We try to be fair as best we can

[tame crown]

^

That's why this server, or community is toxic

That literally happens everywhere, it's sad to see a poor lad who just asked if a mod is released and everyone starts gangin up on him

[supple timber]

We aren't blaming anyone of anything just saying these accusations of mods being copied or being unoriginal is pointless and irrelevant.

[tame crown]

Agree

[cloud pike]

I wouldn't say toxic, just some actions are uncalled for and often go to a downward spiral, and trust me anyone involved got many many warnings and chances

way more than we're allowed to normally give

[rocky heart]

["rpm", "torque"],
[0,0],

These values. Why does a stronger motor have "less torque" but make more torque in game.

This is the weaker motor
[3500, 399.19],

This is the more powerful motor
[3500, 283.92],

[calm hinge]

Depends on the specific RPM

[meager bramble]

Reworked the suspension alignment on the viramar

[tame crown]

v

[meager bramble]

having a hard time figuring out how to mount the coilover tops

solved

[tame crown]

epic

[true drum]

finally unmuted

did jsz get banned?

uhh

[hushed cobalt]

No he simply left

[true drum]

but why

[hushed cobalt]

Sick of the community, probably

[true drum]

that is sad

[hushed cobalt]

Indeed, some others left with him

[true drum]

i heared they got banned

which is y i think jsz did also but idk

😦

[tranquil flower]

Yeah. The Beamng modding community has died because of the flooding of kids in the forums.

[calm hinge]

🤔

I think the beamng modding community has died something like 4 times in the last year if you listen to some people.

But I still see good mods coming out?

[harsh coyote]

nah

[calm hinge]

🤷

[harsh coyote]

must have been at least 5

there were like 2 or 3 times this week alone

[sharp marten]

does anyone know where the cs files are? I'm trying to find them but I just don't know where they are

[harsh coyote]

few updates ago materials.cs files were replaced with materials.json files

[true drum]

being a moderator must be hard

[sharp marten]

wait so making a skin is differnet than the one on the wiki?

[harsh coyote]

slightly

use one of the skins in game for reference

[tame crown]

is making a skin easy?

[harsh coyote]

yes

if you really want a more up to date tutorial, theres one on the modding for dummies discord

link to it is pinned in #modding-general channel

[tame crown]

alright thanks!

[tranquil flower]

More like it’s hard finding enough moderators that can moderate properly.

[terse saddle]

ya means so many underages registered and flood the forums?

[tranquil flower]

And bumps on posts that have been abandoned. It’s amazing how much they would dig through the forums to find that one thread that was last updated years ago

[terse saddle]

k

[true drum]

ye

[turbid remnant]

BeamNG rly should add a fifth wheel camper

I would but I dont know how

where should I start if I want to learn

[keen cosmos]

10/10 very helpful @true drum

[twin raven]

Hello, anybody knows a decent sound mod? specifically for V12s and diesel inline 4s

and BMW inline 6s

[pine saddle]

Does anyone know good mods for sedans/wagons/coupes/hatchbacks?

[dull grove]

wbimp adds all that

[velvet wasp]

anyone know where i can find i tutorial on how to change power outputs on engines and transmissions?

[dull grove]

google

[velvet wasp]

checked dat, cant find a single one about it

[smoky oriole]

the mainengine section of the engine jbeam

[velvet wasp]

and i edit this with notepad ++ correct?

[smoky oriole]

yes

also, your arab chevrolet caprice is actually an australian holden caprice.

[velvet wasp]

yes ik, the reason i call it arab is because this particular version in my pfp is for the arab market

[hot trellis]

would it be possible to make a mod that works with crash dumy and the crash dummy getting in a car to make a walking crash dummy that can get in and out of cars

[shy magnet]

it would be hard as fuck but im sure theres a way to

[rugged nacelle]

Is there anyone that has experience in converting AC maps to Beam that would like to help me do nurburgring

perks: you get the map, it will most likely be private.

If so, ping or DM me

[gilded ginkgo]

how we liking it people?

[still cradle]

Looking mighty fine

[gilded ginkgo]

especially the badging, thats new

[still cradle]

Badging looks really good

[gilded ginkgo]

people be like "oh its gonna have a V6" and yeah well
plans changed

the textures need work ik

[still cradle]

What engine is that

[gilded ginkgo]

turbocharged flat 6-cylinder

there is an N/A version as well as a set of flat 4's

[still cradle]

Bet that's gonna sound real nice

[gilded ginkgo]

i'd say so
https://streamable.com/vqh0cw

[still cradle]

that sounds nice, also like the dash

[rugged nacelle]

I assume that's a private mod?

very cool tho

[supple timber]

well its kueso so probably wbimp related(not to say he can't work on anything else though)

[rugged nacelle]

Aaaaah ok thanks

[hot trellis]

@gilded ginkgo I like it. I like it a lot.

[gilded ginkgo]

thats really cool

glad to see people like it so far

[tame crown]

damn kueso i love that sound and dashboard

is epic

[narrow aspen]

Hey guys, new here. I'm hoping to get some pointers to guides or resources that can help me to create a terrain mod. My goal is to make a racetrack terrain, so weird/advanced assets creation or manipulation are not needed. I'm really looking for something that would teach me how to set up the files(creating, saving, etc) and some guides on how to make roads on a terrain mesh. So far all the resources I found were either on how to make your terrain from some other 3D modelling tool or simply outdated.
So any help is welcome.

[tight wedge]

I think documentation.beamng.com might help you

[hidden vapor]

looking mint kueso

whats your guys opinion on mods going private after public progress threads and teaser screenshots

because then the teasers become actual teasing
"hehe i have thing that u cant have and never will"

[polar cedar]

its not a 'hehe i have a thing that you cant' its more of a 'imo you dont deserve this mod so i wont release' in most cases

caused by drama and begging and whatever

[gilded ginkgo]

^^^

literally just that

[drowsy frost]

Beggars cant be choosers

[keen cosmos]

lol exactly

[calm hinge]

Part of it is also that "it depends"

If after making that decision you keep posting tons of pictures of it on public channels, then yes, it might not be private for the right reasons.

Excluding one specific user, most mods I've seen that went "private" in some way even after progress that clearly showed the mod was heading toward being finished were due to either :
a) Serious lack of motivation/time, even with a private beta having already been distributed
b) The modder essentially abandoning the project after a bunch of serious drama

[drowsy frost]

Seems fair