mods-discussion

[dawn tiger]

And did u read lol I've done it like 800 times

[cyan drum]

work harder, not smarter

[drowsy leaf]

also seeing how many small bugfixes there are, its just not fucking viable mate

[dawn tiger]

No putting random files in your mod makes you look sketchy. I just don't see the issue with putting in the time and effort instead of making yourself look sketchy

[cyan drum]

yet leaking isn't?

because that method has been quite effective at preventing so

[dawn tiger]

So has mine?

[drowsy leaf]

if you are a normal person you wouldnt even know they are there
if you see them, you have access to the DFA server and you could ask (and get clarification)

if you are a leaker, youll get scared

[dawn tiger]

Leakers are probably smart enough to use a VPN and a VM

[drowsy leaf]

trust me they are not

[dawn tiger]

I guess I don't leak shit so IDK anyone who does

[drowsy leaf]

you said you had sold 100 of em, and theres a very big difference between some random guys subwoofer mod that hes been doing for like 2 or 3 months to the biggest truck mod of all the game that has been existing for like 5 years (and 3 years of it being paid)

[drowsy leaf]

just go in the subreddit for leaked mods and youll think of yourself as einstein compared to the people there

[dense jungle]

that sub is breaking the tos yet reddit doesnt seem to care

at least mediafire does

or modsfire whatever the hosting site is called

[drowsy leaf]

well you cant report it since theres no actual links

[cyan drum]

800 sounds exaggerated

[drowsy leaf]

yea they take it down within a day

[dusk wave]

the account hasnt been charged yet

[drowsy leaf]

he said hes updated it like 7 times

[dawn tiger]

I'm in that subreddit to see if anyone trys to leak my mod I just don't click on any posts or anything to see what people are saying or acting like

[cyan drum]

so that would be 700 instead

[drowsy leaf]

there have been like 4 times that people have asked for unreleased mods, theres a single rule yet i see people breaking it all the time....

[drowsy leaf]

156 members *7 is more than 800 but we are assuming hes never had 156 members so 800 seems like a fine number

[dawn tiger]

Plus I give it to a lot of people for free that help me out so I do updates for them too quite a few probably like 25 or so

[dawn tiger]

Yea plus the rule that says don't include full names of creators which like 4 people have trynna get mine leaked so I guess your right lol

[dense jungle]

thats just a shitty rule

not that it matters, that whole sub is shitty

[cyan drum]

yeah

[drowsy leaf]

its to prevent kenemations and frixes bots to scrape posts and automatically report the modsfire link

[dense jungle]

honestly let them

theyre bad enough its not worth the effort to pirate

[drowsy leaf]

which i do eventually want to make a bot for to scape any post so i can see my and other friends leaked mods and forward them

[dense jungle]

i wish i could program

but thats besides the point

[dawn tiger]

Sorry for causing a commotion guys. Lol

[frank cove]

I mean I think serializing your mods is smart. Just doing it manually isn’t

[quick crow]

I was about to say. I dont think its hard to automate that process if you get each clients sale info. That way you could make a program to write the serial into each file, save it and make it zipped. Could be done on a server

[dawn tiger]

idk how to do all that lol im a beginner when it comes to coding lol

[dense jungle]

its just the scale of it

[dawn tiger]

yea i just ddont know how to program lol so manually it is for me lol

[quick crow]

I might look into that some time lol

[dense jungle]

i think putting the serial number in a random, specific file where only you know where to find it would be smart like using steganography to hide it in a texture

along side it being obvious to the buyer which in the case they leak it, you can still find out who

[thick niche]

i think its pointless

[dense jungle]

basically 1 obvious and 1 hidden

[quick crow]

True, otherwise you could always just remove the serial in the jbeam or whatever

[thick niche]

you aint gotta worry about your mods being leaked, they haven't been released XD

[dense jungle]

or just make it free from the start

[quick crow]

Sadly only works if you kind of only make the mod for yourself and then release it

[dawn tiger]

I mean yea but people will still steal it an upload it as there own mod and make it paid

[thick niche]

that's why its pointless

no matter what, yours will get leaked

you cant stop it

[dawn tiger]

hasnt happened yet and not trynna stop just trynna know ho did it

[thick niche]

your best bet if you dont want your stuff leaked is to get beamng a way to read into zips that are encrypted

[quick crow]

Only if you make illegible lua that is absolutely necessary for the mod to work which would be verifying each versions legitimacy

[thick niche]

yes, but that's a boat load of twerk

[quick crow]

But at that point you can just develop a game and DRM

[thick niche]

or have it someway tie to your discord to verify proof of purchase

[quick crow]

And with chatgpt and stuff its gets harder and harder

[dawn tiger]

yea but the way beam works you cant do that easily idk how they do it for the audio zips?

[dawn tiger]

thats how mine works

[thick niche]

chatgbt is great but terrible

[quick crow]

Its great at deobfuscation sometimes and that is what i mean

Idk implementing DRM youself into a paid mod you made is just not anything worth doing anyway

[dense jungle]

its a tool and should be respected as such

like it should be used to check jbeams for syntax errors, but not make jbeams from scratch

[dense jungle]

would depend how much you give a shit really

[quick crow]

For the amount of money you "lose" i dont think so. I don't believe a lot of people that would pay for your mod would just pirate it. People that pirate it would usually not pay for it anyway

So the ones that matter are those who make money with your free or paid mod

[thick niche]

i wouldn't trust chatgbt to know jbeam

[quick crow]

I hate those guys making money on modland with my free mod

[quick crow]

I mean jbeam is basically json so if you know what to ask its okay

[dense jungle]

it does, its probably scraped enough information to understand it

[thick niche]

the only reason im making #1301222240473583696 is cause i wanted a s10 in the game.
I could carless what happens after i release it

[dense jungle]

the most you could do is report it, and post your original in the comments

[quick crow]

Problem is that i couldnt get it off modland, i could only get it off the upload site he posted it to

I asked him to take it down and he just told me to f myself and that he needed a new graphics card

[dense jungle]

thats just shitty

[quick crow]

And meanwhile i was never approved to post my own mods there linked to the official download

[ocean mauve]

"along side it being obvious to the buyer which in the case they leak it, you can still find out who"

And then what? It will have already been leaked, not much you can do about it at that point anymore

And yeah maybe you could prevent that person from buying any of your future mods, but it doesn't take a lot of effort for them to just make an alt email adress / account / whatever

[dense jungle]

ig just keep track of who?

[dawn tiger]

why would they pay multiple times?

[ocean mauve]

Someone has to in order to leak the mod the first time :P

[quick crow]

You can then start humiliating them /s

[ocean mauve]

True, though I doubt they'd care about that. Just seems like a lot of effort to put serial numbers in mods without any benefit to it (imo)

[thick niche]

its a loosing battle, entirely pointless.

It will get leaked/ reuploaded no matter how hard you try for it not to be.

if not in modland, then it will be in the subredit

and you can't track the subredits because they use bit64 decoder

[dense jungle]

that can easily be tracked by decoding it

[dawn tiger]

if you put a serial number and download the base 64 link then just look at the serial to find who did it

[quick crow]

Yeah this whole thing is pretty much just the same like game piracy, which will also forever be a cat and mouse thing

[thick niche]

this whole "pay for my mod" nonsense, has only begun this last decade.

I do not approve of it and think its dumb, you do it as a passion project not to fund yourself.

back in the day you'd be a laughing stock in the modding community in any game asking for money

especially when 90% of mods are just rips from forza/ other games.

[ocean mauve]

Would agree on that when it comes to real life car mods

[thick niche]

if you wanna make money creating assets, become a developer

[dawn tiger]

mines a passion project to fund a gpu since mine is dying so i can continue work on the mod i have health issues that prevent me from working?

[thick niche]

not piggy backing off of a game that runs on a 15 year old engine.

[ocean mauve]

Scratch made lore-friendly stuff though, takes so much time and effort. I understand a modder wanting something back for that (3 or 4 bucks or so)

[thick niche]

the ccf is free, if your not above that then you shouldn't be charging anything.

[dense jungle]

actual paid mods should be those

[dense jungle]

because its a remaster of an existing free mod

[thick niche]

doesn't matter. the amount of work and time that went into that is way more than anything in developement now.

[dense jungle]

it does because if it was paid, youd be charging for what is essentially an update to a mod

[thick niche]

its not paid

[ocean mauve]

So what is your opinion on the creator of the CCF making a paid mod then?
Clearly they proved their abilities with the CCF
https://discord.com/channels/710082165253079061/1286979812480651295

[dense jungle]

if it was paid

[thick niche]

i don't agree with paid mods. It's silly to think you can earn money from piggy backing off of a game.

Granted, i've spent my fair share on buying mods but that's just because I have the money to blow without remorse.

[ocean mauve]

Spending a lot of time and effort = piggy backing?

[thick niche]

developing assets for a game which your not a developer for yes

[dawn tiger]

Bro I didnt know this was a thing imma have to get it thanks for the exposure

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @ocean mauve (current: #3 - 270)

[dense jungle]

by that logic, all mods are piggy backing off of a game, paid or not

[thick niche]

that makes no sense

[dense jungle]

or rather games are piggy backing off of game engines like unreal and unity

[drowsy leaf]

dmca

[thick niche]

thats a game engine which beamng is not.

[quick crow]

The thing with beamng mods is that this pretty much takes as much time and effort s making a simple game yourself, so im okay if someone makes a dev quality mod and it is paid

[drowsy leaf]

ok thats just a straight up lie

beamngs engine is anything but a 15 yearr old game engine

[thick niche]

torque 3d

[drowsy leaf]

by that logic cs2 runs on the same engine as quake

[dense jungle]

im using your logic of game developers piggy backing off of game engines because they charge for their game on an engine they didn't make

[thick niche]

Initial release date: September 28, 2009

[dawn tiger]

try doing anything in torque that beam does

[ocean mauve]

"initial"

[dense jungle]

im not including in house engines, i mean already existing ones

[thick niche]

I don't need to, its stated right there.

[drowsy leaf]

please fact check your facts before spewing shit

the beamng engine has been very modified by the devs

to the point of stripping out most of torque3d in itself

thats why .dts files arent gonna be a thing forever

[thick niche]

modified is still torque 3d

which released in 2009

[dawn tiger]

so win 11 is win 95 cause there all just modified?

[drowsy leaf]

ok so you are basically telling me that counter strike 2 is running on the quake 1 enigne from like 1996

[ocean mauve]

their modifications arent

[thick niche]

yes

[drowsy leaf]

ok then you are just stupid

[dense jungle]

(this is entirely not the point of the discussion, but modern versions of windows have all been built upon from vista)

[dawn tiger]

I think dude should change his name to mine

[thick niche]

lol ez to get going

[drowsy leaf]

and you are even wrong because t3d in itself is based on a obscure 2001 game

[dawn tiger]

how is it not lol? hes saying something is the same thing since its modified?

[dense jungle]

i mean i just wanted to 🤓 you into knowing what windows is built on

[thick niche]

i friggen loved tribes 2

[drowsy leaf]

so beamng is using a 23 year old game engine

[dawn tiger]

oh lol ok

[thick niche]

hell yeah it is.

[drowsy leaf]

and counter strike 2 is using a 31 year old game engine

[thick niche]

hell yeah it is

[frank cove]

Yes

[dense jungle]

but windows, is built on the version prior to it, aside from vista

[dawn tiger]

and still better than most new games lol jkjk

[thick niche]

you get mad at everyone on here so easily its commical

[frank cove]

An LS based V8 is still an LS based V8 regardless of if it’s 20 years old or 2 years old

[drowsy leaf]

so then whats the point of arguing this

[drowsy leaf]

what

im not mad lol

[thick niche]

you need to calm your self down buddy

[dawn tiger]

critisism is dif than anger

[drowsy leaf]

seems like you are the one that needs to calm themselves

[dense jungle]

if you want someone who got mad easily, his name is therealsimu

[drowsy leaf]

and he cant take any

[thick niche]

just because I have a OPINION, doesn't mean you need to call me stupid for my views

[ocean mauve]

by that logic, beamng is based on an engine from an older game, so they are just piggybacking off of that too...

so how can beamng be allowed to ask money for the game????

[drowsy leaf]

when your opinion is baseless, false and has no sense, yes i will call you stupid for it

[thick niche]

whats the #1 thing you do when starting to build a game? license usage? which comes with settling % of sales for using their engines.

[frank cove]

Everything in gaming is an evolution of everything else.

Technically by that logic no one can charge for anything online because they didn’t invent the electricity used to run their product

[drowsy leaf]

and it says nowhere in beamngs eula that you cant sell mods.
and torque3d is an open source game engine

[thick niche]

im done talking with you smooth brain

you get to upset to talk with

[dawn tiger]

[drowsy leaf]

what? you dont like being criticised for lying all the time

[thick niche]

lying?

[dense jungle]

or mined the rocks for the silicon in processors

[drowsy leaf]

yes

[thick niche]

lying about what.

about my opinions? how can a opinion be a lie

[frank cove]

Did you know that by buying BeamNg for 30$ you gain the rights to sell products using their services??

(As long as BeamNg themselves can use it for free)

Crazy concept. But the 30$ you pay for the game is a license to create content with that game

[ocean mauve]

which is a beautiful conclusion to this pointless discussion:

no matter what a game or mod is based on, if it takes a lot of time and effort, to the point where most of it is scatch made, people should be allowed to ask for compensation for their work

good night

[frank cove]

Some games like GTA don’t allow it. But BeamNg does.

[drowsy leaf]

you said that beamng is a 15 year old engine, when by your "opinion" it should be a 23 year old game engine, but its actually such different from t3d that it can be called a different engine

[dawn tiger]

Thats sick where does it say that?

[thick niche]

but it isn't, in its roots its still torque 3d.

[drowsy leaf]

it doesnt prohibit it and modding is allowed, a dev also said that they werent going to give into any sides of paid modding so they are taking a neutral stance, which theyve done by just ignoring the existance of it.

[dense jungle]

adding to the logic

I wouldnt be able to sell my model, that I spent my time and put my effort into making
because it was made in blender which is free, so therefore my model must be free

[drowsy leaf]

ok prokaryotic cell

[dawn tiger]

ohh

[thick niche]

oh hilarious

[drowsy leaf]

by your logic we are that since we evoved from those cells you arent a human and are a single cell

[frank cove]

It’s in the EULA. It basically says “if you create it (it being pictures, mods, etc.) you own it.”

This doesn’t apply to EVERYTHING with your mod such as code of course but you essentially own the working copy of it in game and can distribute it how you see fit.

I’m not a lawyer though so take my understanding with a grain of salt.

[thick niche]

way out of context lichi, just like you always do

[dense jungle]

no thats entirely within context

[thick niche]

nope

[mossy frigate]

just let modders get paid for what they do
You don´t have to buy it. Modders use their free time to make the mods, often way over 400 hours and you say they don´t deserve money for that.
Why? It´s their mod, they can charge whatever they want for it.

[drowsy leaf]

no its the exact same logic
organisms evolve and become separate things

the beamng engine has evolved from torque3d since it has changed so much
its the same exact logic

[thick niche]

i'm not out here spamming on peoples paids mods saying they should be free, lets get that straight.

I just don't agree with it

I've probably the one here that has spent the most on mods, just to clarify

[frank cove]

Most modders wouldn’t sink the time into it without compensation.

So either you don’t have it because you won’t pay or you don’t have it because it doesn’t exist.

Either way doesn’t effect you

[dawn tiger]

MInes not the greatest but people love supporting me to be able to continue work on it

[thick niche]

so what would you call beamngs engine then?

[dense jungle]

if you dont agree with them

why are you buying them?

[dawn tiger]

beamng.tech? maybe idk

[drowsy leaf]

the beamng engine, it doesnt have an official name, but its different enough that its separate

[thick niche]

i don't agree with most companies but still buy into their products.

I want the content simple as that and my way to get it is to buy it

[frank cove]

It’s a modified version of torque 3D.

No different than companies who sell LS based crate motors that have no association with GM

[thick niche]

so if i go ask a dev, they'll say beamng.engine and not built upon the torque 3d engine?

[dense jungle]

but no one is forcing you to buy them

[drowsy leaf]

both would be correct

[frank cove]

It’s different enough to be it’s own product but still has roots in an existing formula

[thick niche]

what are you on about, im not forcing myself to buy them. just because i disagree with it doesn't mean I can't buy it.

[drowsy leaf]

you are a human and you are built upon monkeys

[dense jungle]

its just stupid

[frank cove]

Exactly.

[thick niche]

so if your goverment tells you, you must have this vaccine, but you don' t agree with it what do you do?

[frank cove]

The only real argument here is when is the degree of separation enough to begin charging for what you’ve made

[drowsy leaf]

^^

[dense jungle]

you can choose to not get vaccinated

simply by not showing up and ignoring any letters given

[drowsy leaf]

way out of context badamTru, just like you always do

[dawn tiger]

Dont get it?

[drowsy leaf]

by that logic, him complaining can be compared to an antivaxxer lol

[mossy frigate]

You said before that paid mods are dumb/ nonsense. I have 3 paid mods and they are totally worth it.

I really understand why there´s paid mods because I spent over 1000 hours working on a free mod that is still unreleased.

[frank cove]

The only people who don’t understand paid mods are those who have not modded themselves

The moment you try to make anything it’s immediately obvious why some folks want compensation

[thick niche]

I get why there is paid mods, i understand the 1000s of hours people put into mods

i pay for them, i have no problems paying for it

i just don't agree with you

ya'll are acting like im out here picting on peoples crap saying why isn't it free and complaining about it

[frank cove]

I understand them, I pay for them, yet I don’t like them.

?????

[thick niche]

is that not so hard to understand

[frank cove]

It just seems illogical lmao

[thick niche]

well shit, i dont wanna pay my bills, but i want my stuff to stay on

seems pretty logical to me.

[dawn tiger]

hahah beat me

[thick niche]

my point still stands, i don't agree with it and im not poaching peoples stuff saying it should be free

[frank cove]

So you’re just entitled and want free shit?

[thick niche]

your taking it entirely out of context.

[dawn tiger]

Bruh im so confused at this point lol

[drowsy leaf]

well generally if you dislike something and disagree them, even if you understand why, you dont support them

[dense jungle]

thats different
by paying the cost of living (taxes, utlilities,etc), you dont really have a choice, even if you disagree

by paying for mods, thats entirely your choice to do, no one is forcing you

[frank cove]

I mean no one likes paying money for anything.

If everything could be free I’m sure no one would complain.

But that is not how the world works

[thick niche]

your missing the point.

I happily pay for content because i want it

regardless of my views on it

thats all it is

is a simple opinion, nothing more nothing less.

[frank cove]

So you just want free stuff?

Instead of it being paid

I mean same. But I understand that it doesn’t work that way

Because if the mod wasn’t paid the mod wouldn’t exist

[thick niche]

where did i say i want fucking free stuf

i said i happily pay for it

[frank cove]

Then what is your complaint

[thick niche]

its not a complaint

[dense jungle]

this is paid

[thick niche]

its just a opinion, your not listening

[frank cove]

Don’t pay for that shit

[dense jungle]

i do not agree with it

therefore I choose not to buy it

[drowsy leaf]

^^

[frank cove]

I just don’t think you have a valid point

[dense jungle]

i wouldnt either way

[thick niche]

but i want the content, so i'll put aside my opinion and deal with it as any adult would.

[frank cove]

Paid real mods are a scam unless the creator has an official license

Paid lore mods are 1000% acceptable and common place in 90% of games, especially automotive ones

[thick niche]

is that hard to understand?

[thick niche]

of course you have a choice, live in a world full of admenities that you pay for but dont want to, or go find a place where you can be self sufficient.

[drowsy leaf]

i dont think dreamland exists

[thick niche]

dreamland?

[drowsy leaf]

a place where you can be 100% self suficient

[thick niche]

you must be a city boy.

[drowsy leaf]

yes

[thick niche]

for you to think, you can't actually live self suficient

i know right now where i can go onto land a build upon for myself from the resources surrounded and live just fine.

[drowsy leaf]

well i mean you can live self sufficient
but would you want to?

[thick niche]

depends on how you wanna live your life. that's what im saying.

your starting to get my point then.

you either pay and suck it up like a adult
or you don't.

[drowsy leaf]

no im only getting the you can be self sufficient point

[dense jungle]

i dont see how thats exactly related

[drowsy leaf]

im an adult and chose not to pay

shrug

[thick niche]

well there ya go

im an adult and choose to pay even though i dont like it

[drowsy leaf]

yeah well theres a difference in that

i dont buy paid mods because im a cheapskate and i hate spending money

[thick niche]

same principle for me not liking paid mods and me buying paid mods

[dense jungle]

you have to pay

Even if you were to go self sufficient, you would have to pay for things like your tools

[thick niche]

if i want it, i'll buy it

[drowsy leaf]

no thats different

[thick niche]

you can be 100% self sufficient with what the world gives you. Don't need to buy tools.

[drowsy leaf]

if you dont like something, why the hell would you buy it

[thick niche]

I like the content

i dont like the ideaology.

[drowsy leaf]

but at the end of everything, we all hate offset exhausts that you cant model bumpers for using mirror modifier

[thick niche]

yes

big sad when unable to use mirror modifier

[abstract mango]

mtech kit 💯

[drowsy leaf]

stock

[abstract mango]

🤔

not irl accurate i see

[drowsy leaf]

this but painted trim

will have unpainted trim option too, just havent gotten around to doing that

[torpid umbra]

Is there a way I can add a LUA/Script to a map? An have it announce lap times in chat (in multiplayer).

[dense jungle]

try making a bus lol

[drowsy leaf]

kms

i cannot comprehend heavy duty vehicles

tho with some good ol data transfer it looks wicked

[abstract mango]

mtech bodykit

stock

[thick niche]

oh its a bmw

[abstract mango]

the sideskirts and rear skirts didn't come stock, they were optional

[drowsy leaf]

yeah but thats not a m6

[abstract mango]

yes it is

m635csi, which is the euro m6

[drowsy leaf]

oh wait nah i forgot
is mtcech like trd sorta thing

[abstract mango]

M-technic

[drowsy leaf]

ew american spec

[abstract mango]

not american either

that's the facelift

for all markets

[drowsy leaf]

sadness

[abstract mango]

for 88 and 89 only i think

this is usdm

[thick niche]

why did america get so much shit spec cars?

[drowsy leaf]

even sadder

[thick niche]

was it due to not wanting american brands outshined?

[drowsy leaf]

oil crysis made it so until the late 2000s the us had more emmissions and safety laws than europe

so usdm got bigger, slower, worse engines and 5mph bumpers that look bad since most euro cars werent made for that

[thick niche]

wack

[dawn tiger]

because us Americans suck lol we like square bodies so we don't get the cool stuff hahah

[thick niche]

i mean even with all those sweet desiels we don't get. like dafuq

so now us americans are stuck with the biggest oversized gm junk in the world 😦

[drowsy leaf]

diesel in america is much more expensive iirc

[thick niche]

shit i pay more in gas than what diesel is

4.60 a gallon vs 3.35

[drowsy leaf]

and now its basically the same price in europe, while in the 80s and 90s, diesel was so much cheaper that all euro brands made diesels

[thick niche]

(not that it would of been during that time)

yeah, i remember when i was 16 desiel being 3 dollars + and gas being 1 dollar

[drowsy leaf]

also diesels are generally seen as less luxurious

and by the time that diesel has become cheaper in america, diesels are being phased off for hybrids

also dieselgate

it basically tarnished diesel in the us

[abstract mango]

chinless bmws look so bad lol

[drowsy leaf]

diesels are the same vomit as hybrids imo

they are commuter cars that get you from a-b

theres exceptions in both ways

[abstract mango]

diesel rocks you are just a nerd 😎

[dawn tiger]

jk jk

[abstract mango]

my 2.5L tdi audi gets me comfortably from a to b at high speeds on the highway while keeping fuel consumption low 💯 and it's got torque for days

[thick niche]

there was a rare option for a diesel s10 back in the early 90's i think only like 200 was sold though

[abstract mango]

https://tenor.com/view/need-for-speed-shift-nfs-shift-gif-23786977

[drowsy leaf]

i mean hybrids id say are the spiritual successors to diesels, (especially when it was believed they were cleaner) they both have advantages and disadvantages, but for the normal person, a hybrid makes more sense since they are better in urban enviroments

i just want a honda insight tho

[abstract mango]

a hybrid makes no sense, they are absurdly more expensive than a normal ICE car and most hybrids are econo shits

[dawn tiger]

diesel swap

[abstract mango]

mfs be paying 10k€ extra for a hybrid just because they believe it's the future 🤑

[drowsy leaf]

they are more expensive but get much better efficiency

[thick niche]

actually have one of these we was gonna turn into a oval car w/ a k series.

[drowsy leaf]

oh you talking non purpose built hybrids
yea no thats trash

[abstract mango]

im talking all hybrids that are also offered as gas vehicles

[drowsy leaf]

yeah no those are dodo

same as that but with evs

if you design an ev from the ground up, its designed with big batteries and no big ICE engine in mind, so you have more space and better driving dynamics, while when you slap a battery and a ev motor in an ice car its just shit

[abstract mango]

i don't care about evs (they will all self destroy anyway and there's no repairing their shitty ultra polluting batteries) but i abhore tesla

[drowsy leaf]

idk they have a place in the industry

the more options the better

[dense jungle]

tesla are a catalyst for electric vehicles

or were

[drowsy leaf]

2013 tesla s and the hyundai ioniq 5n and vision 74n ar the only evs id buy

[abstract mango]

evs are inoffensive, they have their niche, but they are no replacement

[drowsy leaf]

exactly that

[abstract mango]

i don't mind them

but don't put a tesla in front of my eyes

mosquito design cars

[thick niche]

i really want a ioniq 5n

[drowsy leaf]

like have you seen the interior of the first gen model S
it looks so much cooler than a modenr teslas

[dense jungle]

except for the original roadster, which is just a lotus, right?

[dense jungle]

theres already one in a museum

[abstract mango]

i've never been subjected to that one

the model s is the only tolerable tesla, out off the new ones

it's the only one that resembles a standard saloon

[drowsy leaf]

i mean all other tesles aside from the low poly truck are just a hammered model S

[thick niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZczpFsv9ZY

[dense jungle]

tesla

[abstract mango]

the model y, x and 3 are very stupid lookinng proportionally, specially the model y

[dense jungle]

lotus

i say this because its just a lotus, and not designed by tesla

[thick niche]

is it a lotus?

[abstract mango]

the amount of cars based off the elise is insane

[drowsy leaf]

the 4c too right?

anyways ill be off for a while, gotta upgrade my ram

[dawn tiger]

lol FIXME

[drowsy leaf]

yeah theres a lot of funny lua comments

[dawn tiger]

this makes my brain hurt lol dont worry the spinning fb logo is just testing stuff lol

[frank cove]

Diesel trucks make sense, diesel cars are hit and miss imo. I think they are neat purely out of novelty as an american

Diesel electric is cool af tho

That to me is a very logical alternative to electric trucks

[mossy frigate]

diesel cars are great

[mossy frigate]

my 2.0 tdi audi too

[dawn tiger]

anyone know where the dds files from the texture cooker go i cant seem to find em?

[ocean mauve]

userfolder, then /0.33/temp/vehicles/carname/ here

or for a map, replace vehicles with levels

[dawn tiger]

damn mine must not be converting cause there not there lol

[vernal hull]

what does the "_P" mean in the audio files?

[lyric crescent]

How would i even mod a base game car, And how would i make the bed slide out and once full slid out go down to the ground?

[drowsy leaf]

id reccomend not doing that, sounds rather complex for a firs tmod

[lyric crescent]

i want to

so how?

[drowsy leaf]

its not something i can explain

[lyric crescent]

any people who can ?

[drowsy leaf]

i just know from experience that moving parts especially for heavy duty stuff is a pain to code

[drowsy leaf]

no, modding is a thing you need to learn by yourself, its very complicated so in general its just not really explainable

[lyric crescent]

im asking who do i even move a part via keybind

[drowsy leaf]

who or how

its not a simple thing

you need to create hydros that move the structure of whatever you want to move

make sure the thing can move and not explode due to instability

then you have to create a custom keybind with some json and keybind stuff, you generally copy that from a vanilla car and modify it to fit your purpose

[lyric crescent]

Dawg coulda said dat, Thanks though!

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @drowsy leaf (current: #46 - 55)

[drowsy leaf]

youll also need rails so the thing can slide, a hinge so it can rotate ....

[lyric crescent]

Ok

[tepid oasis]

Who made the flood mod in BeamNG?

[rugged fox]

where do i get dfa

[dawn tiger]

iretrox patreon

[rugged fox]

what do it have

[ocean mauve]

truk

[ocean mauve]

https://www.dfa-hub.com/
there's some info on here

[robust rock]

launch control ready message on 800 series

[obsidian plinth]

are there any comp drift car mods out there? if so can someone send?

[lusty ice]

how can i make a mod to a car to add lights like a light bar or concealed flashers?

[summer compass]

Anyone know a good backfire mod that’s free?

[dusk gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlboJOqOksA&t=918s

KNEW IT!

[mystic bluff]

where can i download mods safely? i saw "modland" but many people say it has viruses or smth, can someone help me?

[dusk gust]

Directly from the repository actually!
since beamNG has full mods support you can download pretty much every mod from there

[mystic bluff]

im planning to buy beamng

[ocean mauve]

1. The in-game repo
2. https://www.beamng.com/resources/
3. https://www.beamng.com/categories/mods.23/

The search feature on the site is pretty bad, try googling site:beamng.com and then whatever it is you're looking for. That way it will only show results from the official site

As far as I know, sites like Modland don't actually have as many virusses and stuff as people say. But definitely a lot of low quality and/or stolen mods. Best to stick to the official site and the in-game mod repository

[mystic bluff]

thanks for the help

[dry quarry]

How did you do this?

[lyric crescent]

Why is it so dark? it supposed to look like the bottom

The hood is to dark, its supposed to look like the bottom bar.

[soft knoll]

there is comp diana

made by japan cat

[obsidian plinth]

can you send it?

[soft knoll]

no

[obsidian plinth]

ok

[soft knoll]

its in widefap server tho

[drowsy leaf]

crappy mod lol

i think thats meant to be part of the hood

[lyric crescent]

i know i want to remove most of the hood/ "gut" it but it looks weird

its made by kenemation

[drowsy leaf]

theres your awnser

[lyric crescent]

im editing it

[ocean mauve]

there ya go

[drowsy leaf]

kemenations mods are garbage

[lyric crescent]

oh

[lyric crescent]

is it paid or smt?

[drowsy leaf]

and youve probably got a case of double sided materials, that mesh probably should only be viewed from the bottom (when the hood is open) so if you make the material doublesided and look from the opposite place, it looks wrong

[drowsy leaf]

probably
but they are just bad, free or paid

[lyric crescent]

oh welp

[lyric crescent]

wait how do i do that in blender by any chance?

or is it a beamng thing?

[ocean mauve]

It's a BeamNG thing. Look for the hood material (probably part of the main body material) in the mods main.materials.json

The material will probs have a line that says something like doubleSided: true, remove that

[lyric crescent]

Thanks

[ocean mauve]

Ah yeah found it, this:

[lyric crescent]

Tysm

[lyric crescent]

Oh and what makes a object identified as a taillight? i added a little light strip on a big wing i made and wanted to know

[ocean mauve]

That would be the material. And in the case of a light, that material will be linked to a glowmap, that toggles between the off and on materials

In your case, with a car that already has working lights, you can just use one of the glowmap materials that was already used for those lights

[lyric crescent]

Oh

Thanks

[lyric crescent]

I got it to become red ingame but its not glowing

[modern smelt]

are there any good mod sites other than forum or modland?

[pallid lynx]

modland isn't a good mod site

[ocean mauve]

Modland... Good...?

Using 3rd party sites such as Modland is not recommended. Lots of low quality and/or stolen mods, and potentially even virusses. The only official places to get mods from are the in-game repository, the website version of that same repository (https://www.beamng.com/resources/) and the forums (https://www.beamng.com/categories/mods.23/)

Paid mods use 3rd party sites for the payment, like Ko-Fi, Gumroad, Patreon. Just make sure the mod has a forum page too, like this one for example https://www.beamng.com/threads/gavril-scout-18-24-paid.88644/

And lastly, the search function of the forums is... not great. If you're looking for something specific, try googling site:beamng.com and then whatever you are looking for behind it

[lyric crescent]

barely even lights up

[echo kite]

Can someone make a mod for vanilla cars that adds chrismas lights to them, and also a chrismas tree with chrismas lighs

[robust rock]

just a simple if when the car is stopped and efficiency is negative

[dry quarry]

So it shows up when you rev it aswell?

[lyric crescent]

it keeps bending, how do i make it stronger?

[steep harbor]

Not really

Forum is the best
Modland: decent (wouldn’t download from there tho)
Others: 🗑️

[drowsy leaf]

modland :

[robust rock]

the car has to be in gear

[robust rock]

modland is sometimes okey, it's overrated and overhated at the same time

[dry quarry]

Ahh

Does anyone know a way to scale jbeams?

Tried it in blender but it doesnt chanfe the nodes location somehow

Even after applying

Nvm figured it out

[drowsy leaf]

yeah that sometimes is when its reuploaded forums content or leaked private mods

[frank cove]

There is ZERO reason for anything to be on Modland over the forums

[drowsy leaf]

^^

[odd terrace]

so i just downloaded a paid mod but the physical vehicle wont show up on the menu.any recommendations

[drowsy leaf]

what paid mod did you get

[odd terrace]

wheel wizard f-150

[drowsy leaf]

gosh

another one that buys crappy real life mods

yeah so basically rule of thumb
if you see a paid mod thats a real life vehicle, its probably a stolen 3d model badly added into beamng so dont buy them ever

did you put the .zip file into the mods folder

[odd terrace]

couldnt find any other f-150 that seemed worht downloading

yeah i did

[drowsy leaf]

yeah well you probably got scammed

can you open the .zip file and send a screenshot

[odd terrace]

it was a direct download file from the patreon

ight

which one

[drowsy leaf]

double click that beamng mods link

where does it go to

(dont paste the link in it just send screenshot)

[drowsy leaf]

you bought it from there?

[odd terrace]

no i got it from the patreon

[drowsy leaf]

which ford did you buy?

[drowsy leaf]

if you had read the comments on the modland post you wouldnt have been scammed

[odd terrace]

whatever the bastard can enjoy my $7

[drowsy leaf]

well your mod doesnt work, everything seems to be there inside the zip

wait no

why the hell is this folder 3 times

it should be mods>f150.zip>vehicles

dude is such a bad scammer he cant even fucking reupload a mod properly

you should chargeback your creditcard

[odd terrace]

jesus

[lyric crescent]

lmao

[unique onyx]

anyone know of any mods that lets you rotate ui apps

[unique onyx]

nvm

[steep harbor]

Unsurprising

They sell edited Forza models so

[slow wraith]

could someone make me a good cybertruck mod please (or point me to a good one that exists)
the only ones are an automation mod, and a shitty royal renderings one
even if it's just cleaning up the rr jbeam so it functions better and lags less i would take it

[frank cove]

#mods-faq

Unless you are willing to pay (allot) no one is going to make a mod for you just because you asked

[robust rock]

paying money for no jbeam and fh5 model is yeah 💀

[dusty parcel]

What website is that?

So I can get hellcats in beam

[rugged fox]

me too.

[rugged fox]

got the same one

[frank cove]

Bruckell Bastion

In all seriousness just search the official forums for real car mods. All other sites are sketchy at best

And do not whatever you do ever pay for a real car mod unless they have official licensing (they never do)

[dense jungle]

Also a thief

[graceful harness]

dubious is the old one 2k1 is the new one

entirely redid the engine sounds

basically I was holding the rpm at a consistent rate for my samples for the first one, then today I realised it should be throttling up then decaying for the 2 separate samples

I just edited the length of the singular rpm sample to be 20x as long and then took a 1 second sample of each rpm for both upward video and downward video

[raw terrace]

how do i acces the forest editor window
bc i dont see it in the window section

[bright jacinth]

also has an ai generated profile picture

[dry quarry]

If i wanted to add a second hood for example, would I have to repeat the nodes beams etc or would the flexbody group work aswell

[ocean mauve]

It will need everything that the original hood .jbeam has, nodes and beams included

[dry quarry]

Thanks

[timber garden]

What's the difference between those two???

[fiery adder]

Is one of those modded? I don’t believe there’s any Stage 3 duplicates by default

[timber garden]

Yeah it's modded, The Stage 3 Boost Turbo starts at 0 psi and Stage 3 Variable Boost starts at -0.2 psi

and i can't figure it out wich one is better 1st or 2nd one

[crude fjord]

Eyes WAIT 4th gen LEGACYYYYYYY AAA make ej255 yesyes

[bright jacinth]

i strongly agree

beamng is probably the hardest game to ever mod for

[ocean mauve]

ehh I don't know if you could say that about a game that has built in mod support, and a shit ton of documentation for modders

[dawn tiger]

Ok the docs kinda suck for some things tho lol

[ocean mauve]

matter of opinion, i guess. anyway, all you need for a basic mod is any text editor, and some time looking through the docs and vanilla files, could hardly call that 'the hardest game to ever mod for'

[dawn tiger]

True for a basic mod like changing a couple values anything else is not easy unless you know specifically what your looking for , jbeam = easy. Most other games it's just drag and drop and they have tools specifically to use to make mods that make it super easy

[ocean mauve]

Imo beamng is basically at that level too, lots of modding tools are included in the world editor (experimental > vehicle editor) and things like the official blender jbeam plugin 🤷

[dawn tiger]

I use all of that lol and yea like I said j beam is easy making lua isn't making HTML isn't java isnt and none of those things are included and there are almost no docs to help or videos. Not trynna argue but man try making any mod that isn't a material swap or a meshlap in almost any other game all of those things have tools made for them beam doesn't?

[ocean mauve]

...so where does making a car from scratch fit in? Would that be a material swap or a meshslap :P No lua/htlm/java required for that, unless you're doing screens

[dawn tiger]

So having your car move doesn't require a controller?

[ocean mauve]

Not a custom one, no.
Take the Cherrier Picnic for example, only one 27 line lua file for the clock. The rest is jbeam/textures/model/json for which there is plently of documentation and useful tools - not to mention all the original game files which serve as documentation too

[dawn tiger]

If you know what your looking for again like I said most normal people don't. And from scratch means from scratch not copy and paste the controller information from another car. I feel like your just trying to make people seem stupid maybe it isn't hard for you but it is for other people that's why there is a whole server just for help and channels in this server for help because it's not just self explanatory.

[crimson reef]

yo does anyone know any mods for the 1974 gm trucks?

[dawn tiger]

I think limitless pain has a Chevy c30 I'm not sure the quality tho

[ocean mauve]

Copy and paste...? No need to even do that. You straight up do not need to even know what a controller is in order to make a car mod

Look, I'm not saying BeamNG modding is easy. Just that there is a lot of helpful info (docs/vanilla files/tutorials) and official tools - and a whole discord server for just this purpose, like you said, and that it is far from the hardest game to make mods for - which is what I was replying to in the first place :P

But of course anyone is free to have a different opinion, imma head out

[dry quarry]

what could be a reason for the wheels to implode like this?

scaled up the whole jbeam nodes with 1.06 manually but for some reason this happens now

the rest works well

[crimson reef]

thanks i downloaded the mod but i cant get the vehicles to show up in game

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @dawn tiger (current: #51 - 52)

[dawn tiger]

Where did you put it?

[crimson reef]

in repo in the mods folder

[dawn tiger]

dont put it in repo just in mods folder

[crimson reef]

oh alright thanks

[ocean mauve]

doesn't matter, all subfolders work the same (except 'unpacked')

[dawn tiger]

maybew the zip has another folder in it making it not show up

[ocean mauve]

what? just stating facts, it doesn't matter if you put it in 0.33/mods/ or 0.33/mods/subfolder/ it's all the same except for 0.33/mods/unpacked. that has nothing to do with an opinion

ah yeah delete your message, nice

[dawn tiger]

yea im trynna block u cause im trynna not see ur shit anymore lol

[ocean mauve]

go ahead, dont care

[coarse moat]

Do I just make a different mod folder if one mod folder gets full?

[dawn tiger]

did ask for whether u cared or not just said why i deleted my message

[ocean mauve]

What do you mean, full? Your drive is full?

[ocean mauve]

Cared about what? Genuine question that is

[coarse moat]

Its not

[ocean mauve]

Then what do you mean?

As long as you have storage space, you can add as many mods as you want in the same folder

[dawn tiger]

yea mod folder cant be full if ur drive isnt full

[coarse moat]

I checked my drive and it isnt full

[crimson reef]

ohhh nvm i found them i just had to expand configurations for some reason

[ocean mauve]

Then what do you mean with 'if one mod folder gets full?'

[dawn tiger]

sorry for the way i am acting im having a shit day dont mean to be rude

[ocean mauve]

No worries, didn't mean to offend you if I did

[dawn tiger]

is it under the dseries? cause i have an old version of the mod from a while ago and mine is in its own vehicle category?

[crimson reef]

oh it is thank you

[coarse moat]

I figured it out

[dawn tiger]

What did you figure out? What was wrong lol?

[coarse moat]

I just made a new folder like i asked before 💀

[dawn tiger]

Yea but your question was if the folder is full it cant be full its impossible unless your drive is full?

[coarse moat]

Well something gave way because it happened 🤷‍♂️

[dawn tiger]

Physically impossible but ok cause i have 300 mods in the same folder

[jagged elm]

Does anyone have a good monster truck mod?

[ocean mauve]

I know this exists https://www.beam-monsters.com/
About wether it's good or not... 🤷

[jagged elm]

Ok

What about a RWB Porsche?

[dawn tiger]

I USE THOSE THEY ARE GOOD IMO

damn caps lock

[jagged elm]

Ok

I couldn’t find the downloads page…

[dawn tiger]

you have to make an account

[long spoke]

Anyone know a good Oldsmobile mod?

[dawn tiger]

codename Old Fullsize

[small quarry]

Does anyone have a zip of the gavril scout mod? I don't want to pay for it lol

[ocean mauve]

There is a free demo
https://www.beamng.com/resources/2018-gavril-scout-demo.28056/

[small quarry]

ok ill try that

[dawn tiger]

Bruh cant be asking for pirated mods in beamcord lol

[barren magnet]

shameless pirate

L

[dense jungle]

I wouldnt call it hard, rather, its just tedious

[wild ridge]

does anyone know from what mod these wheels are?

[lyric crescent]

the forces are destroying the wing lmao

[quick pagoda]

me when simulator does simulation things

[mighty basin]

realism game

[eternal isle]

Whats that one d-series mod that makes them look like actual gmc's and chevy's?

Id like, SUPER appreciate if someone told me

[ocean mauve]

DFA, right now it's still in paid early access. Will supposedly be free once it is done
https://www.dfa-hub.com/

[dusty parcel]

So how do I take a file from beamngs website and import it into beam?

[ocean mauve]

Download the .zip, and put it in the mods folder in your userfolder (if there isn't a folder called mods in there yet, just make it yourself)

[dusty parcel]

Wait whats a userfolder?

[ocean mauve]

Just click it in my message :P or here is the full link
https://documentation.beamng.com/support/userfolder/

[dusty parcel]

ok so I got to this part now and what do I do?

[frank cove]

Open the game, go to mods, click open mods folder.

Put the Hellcat mod in that “mods” folder

[dusty parcel]

OK THANKS

[upper pumice]

does this look good ?

[tulip thunder]

has there been and bx widebodys since 0.32

[nova quiver]

clarify

[tribal ledge]

Has anyone seen a traffic controller tutorial for when setting up traffic on a new map? Seeking to manage stop signs and have the traffic lights I got from east coast work like on east coast but on a custom map. Has this been achieved by anyone yet or do the devs have a guide? Im seeing nothing online on this.

[wispy canopy]

So im trying to make some mod for fiat 125 it probably will be lore friendly

[wooden umbra]

does anyone know of any good bmw mods that are on the beam ng website?

[celest sundial]

there's a good E46 mod on the forums

[wooden umbra]

what is it called?

[celest sundial]

E36* https://www.beamng.com/threads/bmw-e36-revamp-1-6.84153/

[wooden umbra]

ok thanks

[wispy canopy]

e30 and e34 too

https://www.beamng.com/threads/bmw-e30-sedan-with-touring-m3-coupe-and-cab-in-work-v10-dlc.101779/

https://www.beamng.com/threads/bmw-e34-sedan-and-touring-released-v12-dlc.97790/

[wooden umbra]

alright cool

[austere lake]

is there any person here that know a lot about blender/making openables/detachables fixtures for a beamng vehicle
that would like to collab with me to improve my undercab truck ?
i already did a lot, spend dozens and dozens of hours into making the truck in automation with a LOT of details
i modified a LOT the jbeams to make the vehicle the best possible to drive, etc...
but now im missing one thing :
a good jbeam to have good deformation
and apparently i need someone that know how to make openables/detachables fixtures for the vehicle, and so surely need blender
i really want to finish this project, but blender and things like that are really the last barrier preventing me from progressing and finishing my mod

[wooden umbra]

anyone know of any good dodge challenger or charger mods or jsut any other good mods in general

[dense flax]

There is good charger made by LJ

Its paid early access atm

[rugged fox]

how do i FIX THIS

[tame matrix]

clear cache?

[drowsy leaf]

get better mods?

[timid rock]

Does anyone know how to get a lightbar on a civilian car

I have tried searching and I can not find anything about ity

[quick pagoda]

imma use that as an excuse to play beamng

[quick pagoda]

shows up fine.

[timid rock]

is that under vehicle config

[quick pagoda]

yes

that is where you add and remove parts to your current vehicle

[timid rock]

is that on a cop car or an actual civ car because I got a BMW M5 F90 mod but I want to add a lightbar

but it doesn't come up with one

[quick pagoda]

probably cause its a mesh slap that doesnt have any parts

[timid rock]

oh is there anyway to get one on there though or is it impossible?

[quick pagoda]

unless you made a mod or something to add it

[timid rock]

do yk any?

[quick pagoda]

no

[timid rock]

oh alright

[quick pagoda]

just dont use mesh slaps if you want anything more than what is offered

[timid rock]

yeah well this dude

https://www.tiktok.com/@5gfalcon/video/7295617511716818177 uses the same one and he has a lightbar etc

[quick pagoda]

do you have the link to the mod?

[timid rock]

I do to the original BMW

[quick pagoda]

oh its a modland mod

[timid rock]

yeah

[quick pagoda]

yeah idk then, cant help with that

[timid rock]

oh alright

[quick pagoda]

you are able to put a light bar on all repo vehicle mods if the mod offers one

[timid rock]

ah alright

[dawn tiger]

WIP

[crude fjord]

kool

[fading gust]

pontiac catalina?

[torpid topaz]

makes me wonder how much have they cooked since the "covet component front suspension"

[dawn tiger]

buic riviera

[olive spire]

anyone got a list of good pickup mods

[hushed hamlet]

guys how do i remove the square it made me can't see other stuff outside of it

[swift tide]

Anybody know how to take the bumper from the roamer and mod it onto the d-series frames?

[crimson ember]

Is there a mod mayhaps that adds semis to traffic? Preferably with trailers but if they just have an uplift that’s fine. It would make A.I. traffic more immersive, especially on an infinite highway map.

[fiery adder]

Don’t think so, you can just add semis and then start the ai

[odd oriole]

I wish there was more horror mods for beam
because atlanto doesn't work I am trying to find another horror mod

[frank cove]

Gamers Pickup pack is fun. Lots of realistic but also wacky options mostly focused on the D Series

Has some Roamers, MD Series and H Series parts too

There was a mod by AR162 for the D Series that was amazing. No idea if it still works

[olive spire]

alright thanks

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @frank cove (current: #59 - 43)

[bright jacinth]

my friend said professional modders should turn into horacio pagani and make real life cars but i think hes too delulu don't you think chat?

making real life cars would cost way more than just making a car in a simulator but some people havve actually made cars out of simulators i think

[solid rapids]

he might just be jesting

[turbid flicker]

where is the best place to download good versons of cars

versions

[limpid sage]

yo

does anyone have any racecar mods?

[frank cove]

If you have a shit load of money and connections being a head designer at Lamborghini like Pagani was then sure you can make it work

But the money and connections are key

[timber garden]

Is this how it should be?

[late badger]

where did the aventador revamp go? the uhh new one

[haughty steeple]

does meo still work on all the drag racing parts?

[lusty ice]

Is there any tutorial for modding an ingame car?

[ocean mauve]

1. The in-game repo
2. https://www.beamng.com/resources/
3. https://www.beamng.com/categories/mods.23/

The search feature on the site is pretty bad, try googling site:beamng.com and then whatever it is you're looking for. That way it will only show results from the official site

[ocean mauve]

Sure, lots. Some can be found on YouTube, some in the Modding for Dummies discord server (there is a link to it in this message #community-announcements message)

There is also a lot of useful info in the official documentation
https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/

[lusty ice]

thanks!

[static python]

do someone already know how to make skins for the new bruckell nine ???

i tried and failed

[bright jacinth]

is there a way you can remove openables?

or shall i adjust my jbeam to work with openables?

[soft knoll]

you can remove openables by just not having it in the jbeam

[haughty steeple]

could someone help me get modded irl vehicles into the game? ive watched a few yt vids that doesnt really show you how only where to get them, and i dont know what sites to trust.

[feral pawn]

did someone say 12 rotor 👀

[ocean mauve]

You can find mods via these official resources:

1. The in-game repo
2. https://www.beamng.com/resources/
3. https://www.beamng.com/categories/mods.23/

The search feature on the site is pretty bad, try googling site:beamng.com and then whatever it is you're looking for. That way it will only show results from the official site

There are also 3rd party sites such as Modland, but those feature a lot of low quality / stolen mods, and potentially even malicious content / viruses, so using such sites is not recommended. If you do, use at your own risk, and don't click any suspicious ads or links

As for how to install them, follow this guide:
https://documentation.beamng.com/tutorials/mods/installing-mods/

[haughty steeple]

thank you you're awesome!

got it done thank you!

[flint egret]

It seems like smoothers cant be applied to props. need to do more testing though

[vivid shale]

and today, the chains of all map makers were broken

gone are the long hours of clicking in the forests

[soft knoll]

there are trusted 3rd party sites and dc servers like 2fast and widefap too

[olive nest]

The new halogen effect is amazing!!

[drowsy frost]

2shit is not a good place to get mods. They're crap. Not sure about widefap though.

[fast rivet]

woah woah woah theres some good shit on there like the transbrake mod and the drag wheel pack

[drowsy frost]

There isn't.

[nocturne spire]

some stuff is like ok

[wooden umbra]

does anyone know of any good wheel mods?

[dawn tiger]

Left seat {1} or Right seat {2}

[daring vessel]

Anyone have a good turbo mod that will work on all vehicles I used to have a good one for awhile but this recent update broke it

[dawn tiger]

twincharge anything works on all stock vehicles

[daring vessel]

Bet I had it installed but only used it for the indestructible engine I’ll try the turbo

[dire shadow]

Anyone using Devin AI for JBeams?

[mellow flint]

huh?

[dawn tiger]

ai cant make u a jbeam? and vs code tells you all the erros you could possibly have?

[dire shadow]

devin ai's large vm actually has enough memory to launch a full copy of beamng.drive

[dawn tiger]

still cant make a jbeam?

[frank cove]

No AI is complex nor smart enough to make JBeam. Ain't no way

[dire shadow]

devinai can read those error messages and act on it

it's a coding autopilot

costs about eastern european junior SWE wage level if you work it 8h/day

[dawn tiger]

it cant make a jbeam lol idk what ur not getting about this lol

[dire shadow]

did you actually test it? i do have an account i opened in the private beta days, i actually can try it

[frank cove]

He never said make tbf that was our assumption

Fixing makes sense with AI but also is really not hard or time consuming to do as a person

[dawn tiger]

then do it but all its gonna do is explain errors that are already explained in vs code

[frank cove]

Yeah nah it can't make effective Jbeam

[dawn tiger]

{
"name": "MyCar",
"description": "A simple car model.",
"nodes": [
["id0", 0, 0, 0],
["id1", 1, 0, 0],
["id2", 1, 1, 0]
],
"beams": [
["b0", "id0", "id1", {"beamLength": 1, "beamStrength": 1000}],
["b1", "id1", "id2", {"beamLength": 1, "beamStrength": 1000}]
],
"flexbodies": [
["myCarBody", "myCarMesh.dae", {"mass": 1500}]
]
}
This is the closes your getting with ai

[frank cove]

It can probs detect and fix errors but thats about it

[dire shadow]

it has a full vm to play with, it can do more than that, including playtesting it

[dawn tiger]

i have a vm too and can run local ai but it still isn't gonna make anywhere close to an eligible jbeam because it doesnt know what to do at all if it could there would be thousands of mods popping up everyday

[frank cove]

I think you perhaps under estimate the complexity of BeamNg

I'm sure it works great with unity games and such

But Beam requires a mild degree in engineering to understand how to make jbeams for suspension and chassis and such

[dire shadow]

the difference is Devin AI has a GPT-o1 sized large coding model behind it

it's not perfect, but far beyond what other AI software completion tools can do

[tender summit]

ignore that front axle

[dire shadow]

devin ai is cheap compared to a human dev, but not that cheap

[tender summit]

also that is not a hopper axle in a nine

[dawn tiger]

IF you think you understand ai and think it can make a jbeam then you dont understand ai 🤷‍♂️

[tender summit]

its a 4wd nine axle

[lucid hawk]

Anyone know any good drag mods for the Barstow? My suspension keeps breaking under a lot of power.

[frank cove]

Meo's

[drowsy leaf]

I've tried multiple times with other ai stuff, non of them could even properly edit it, theyd break the sintax jus by asking to change values in simple tables (torque curve tables) and would confuse jbeam with many similar coding languages, they can also barely understand 3d space so it's impossible for them to understand the complexity of nodes, beams triangles and all their relations

[fickle pumice]

Hello all

Does anyone know anything about Luuk's tyre thermals and wear? Ive installed it but i dont see any difference in gameplay

[oak plover]

how to make this?

[distant flame]

👀

[distant flame]

so i will named this wagan rs II

its right?

[quick pagoda]

? update your game for it

[cold pewter]

dang what these halogen lights are kinda cool

[tame rune]

Still waitig for a brum mod

Nvm cant send gifs

[frigid palm]

@plush ruin (sorry for ping)

Is the Nine expected to make it into the Mad Mod?
(Sorry if you’re not the one to ask, I just see you’re the last person to work on it)

[plush ruin]

Yeah it is at some point

[bright jacinth]

what mod is that?

[frigid palm]

If I might half ask/half just suggest an idea

Aurata stuff on it? This seems very mad max.

Just a thought.

I did a rough moc up with the suspension when it came out.

[distant flame]

i always think

you can make some autobellos buggy part in this car

slap or make your own

[plush ruin]

I want to make something like this with a dummy strapped at the front lol

[frigid palm]

I love it

[hard cliff]

by any chance does anyone hvae the belasco city police logo?

[lucid hawk]

Anyone know any good drag mods for the Barstow? My suspension keeps breaking under a lot of power. I also get no grip.

[hard cliff]

cant find any so i made my own

[frank cove]

I unknowingly almost replicated this car lol (DuneRods are great fun, would recommend)

[hasty palm]

Hello, theres a mod which i forgot the name of but it was like safety on car stuuf and the thumbnail on it was a reverse camera, does anyone know it?

[drowsy leaf]

dunerods?

is that a map

[charred flax]

Does anyone know of anyone working on a pikes peak hillclimb map at all?

Or any one know of any hillclimb specific maps?

[drowsy leaf]

doesnt the forums one work?

[charred flax]

Honestly didn’t know that there was one

I never check the forums.

[drowsy leaf]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/pikes-peak-lidar-edition.4986/

then how do you get your mods

[charred flax]

Respitory tbh.

[frank cove]

HotRod but made for the dunes = DuneRod
-# This is a term I made up, not an official designation

The map is Xero Parklands

[hasty palm]

plz

found it

[sweet crater]

is there anyway to edit .lua files ? notepad>

[late cargo]

I have an idea

[frigid palm]

How would I go about making this skin, plus the fenders being black, it’s own skin?

Basically just trying to add black running boards and fenders to it, save it all as one skin

Decal editor is shit and idk where to turn next

[late cargo]

I could kinda do it, in my WIP mod which is based on the scintilla wheelbase and for now suspension. The plan is to make an "all-in-one" vehicle that can both do supercar racing but also dunekicking and crawling, based around the same central skeleton*, but with different suspension mounting points. Currently only rear-engined**, but the dream is both and rear engined with a wide variety of engine choices

*For now, the mid-section is the SBR rollcage
**I stole most of the scintilla driveline, aswell

[frigid palm]

Ok. You got any useful input or you just wanna get attention?

[late cargo]

I believe you can somewhere find stencils for liveries in the game files. Try googling "beamng how to create livery" or something like that

[frigid palm]

If it was any other car I’d be doing that already

But this is a day old vehicle

nvm misread

[late cargo]

oh, okay, haha

was about to start rambling about if, lets say, the scintillas livery stencil was in scintilla/[name]/[file.name], the nine stencil would be the same

[frigid palm]

Ok so slight issue. The skin is intended to have pearlescent parts and metallic parts.

I can’t find that covered anywhere

[wild pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064335716802371708/1312598934077837413/togif.gif

[late cargo]

then i cant help, sorry. im not familiar with the livery side of modding

[drowsy leaf]

NAW

snotfish~1

[wild pier]

it's a gif for ease of sending (unless its in #off-topic ) as well

[undone belfry]

yo any one have a motorcycle mod? thats good payed is fine

[snow fog]

Does anyone else have issues with custom AI races ?

All the AI cars are stuck in neutral, just revving to the max trying to start moving

My car is fine, and BeamNG made AI races are fine too

[misty onyx]

the fuck were the devs doing

[junior plume]

for the googly eyes

turn on the headlights for the eyebrows

[pallid lynx]

Somebody should remake this map cus it kinda looks bad however its alot of fun

[drowsy leaf]

its a racing map, it doesnt need to look good, it has to have a road and look barely like the place

[pallid lynx]

ik would be nice tho if it looked better

like a bit more detail and make it harder it feels like there is too much grip

compared to the real thing

[fiery adder]

When racing I prefer the map to look good because otherwise I get distracted by how bloody awful it looks. I don’t use pikes peak ‘cause of it but don’t have the skill to fix it

[pallid lynx]

maybe techeyy will remake it

if not ill prob remake it

once i learn how to make maps

[frank cove]

On the topic of maps; does anyone know how depth mapping works? I followed the same structure as Industrial but it does not work on my map for some reason.

*Correct Industrial pic

[latent ivy]

Question, would it be possible to use the new Smooth Headlight Transitions on any other cars? Cause older cars have LED headlights when they should have Bulb.

[drowsy leaf]

Yes, the patch notes specify that they'll be added to other cars in future updates, like with the mirrors in the Tseries and the openables in the covet remaster

[latent ivy]

Appreciate it. I dont bother looking at patch notes only because I wanna be surprised yk

[quaint edge]

sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do i install mods that show up as (modname)UNZIP when I install them? ive tried everything that i can find but nothing seems to work.

[dawn tiger]

Are they from modland? Because its probably a stolen mod?

[quaint edge]

oh my goodness i had no idea that was a thing

and yeah

[dawn tiger]

Most mods from modland are stolen mods very few are actually from the original author

[quaint edge]

oh wow

wont be installing them then

[low bear]

I want to mod the Bruckell Nine into allowing the flathead engine on the custom frame. Do any of you suggest a good mod tutorial video? I have never made a mod before

[dawn tiger]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/tutorial-porting-engines-and-other-parts-inbetween-vehicles.28730/

[low bear]

Thanks!

[tender harbor]

Anybody know a good place to get trucks mods. Mainly dodge Chevy with realistic sounds?

[buoyant spear]

I have never modified anything in beamng I will try and see what happens following this guide

[odd oriole]

any horror type mods that works in the new version of beamNG?

[buoyant spear]

It is possible to convert a car that cannot be made awd by modifying a file can be converted The truth is I have no idea about moding but I want to learn with something basic like that with a clear guide.

[dense jungle]

Mods shouldn’t be unzipped anyway, but make sure they’re actually in the mods folder too

[ocean mauve]

Short answer: Yes

Long answer: Some basic modding skills will be required, try having a look at the official documentation and checking some tutorials

https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/vehicle/intro_jbeam/
https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/vehicle/sections/

(And from the old wiki since the powertrain page isn't on the new one yet)
https://wiki.beamng.com/Powertrain.html

[buoyant spear]

Thank you so much

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @ocean mauve (current: #3 - 284)

[rustic nova]

i'm having trouble getting a material to work. in the world editor it's mapped to the right material in blender, but textures won't show up on it.
it's not saving anything (other than the initial creation of the material) to the materials file either.

i have already cleared the cache 2 times since that seemed to help before

the first problem has been solved, but it still won't save to the material file.

[agile prism]

does somebody have some cool cars? maybe real life brands and not that old?

[uneven current]

Anyone know how I would be able to create underglow? I tried creating an object and putting headlight material on it and it turns on but doesn’t emit a glow or light.

[valid heron]

There's an issue with the plates on this car... cleared cache, didn't work, it's a modded car, other textures work fine

[earnest lodge]

anyone here have a good, current map making tutorial? im reserecting the dead map i tried to make forever ago to drive the nine on, but i keep getting lua errors while opening

[ocean mauve]

That's on purpose. Back side of the plate shows the text, since that is embossed in the plate, just like this real life example

[valid heron]

No it's not, prior to 0.34 it was different

[brisk turtle]

What makes the normal cars in the game crash so much better than the modded ones

[torpid umbra]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/outlaw-figure-eight-car.32806/

Is there anyway I can get a update on this mod being released? It's my mod. Idk why it's taking 5 weeks to be approved

[oak belfry]

someone should make a bruckell nine with a burnside front

thatd make it look more like a car from the 40s so wed have something in between the burnside and the nine

[frank cove]

High quality mod cars will crash like vanilla cars. Poorly made mesh slaps crash poorly

Mesh slap = vanilla car collision model and jbeam with a different visual model emposed over it likely stolen from a different game

[brisk turtle]

ah ok

[simple spade]

bru where are the 15x12 drag tires?

the 29 inch ones

nvm found it

[strong flax]

does anyone know the name of the mod that allows you to change the weather of maps?

[ocean mauve]

It's almost as if updates change things

[valid heron]

Real helpful smartass

[timid hamlet]

Well its true

[chilly marsh]

Is starting a model with a high resolution 3d scan of a car too hard to clean up or is it somewhat viable

[rough iris]

It can help you with proportions, but you probably need to start from scratch anyways

[neon magnet]

topology would be unpredictable, and bad topo means bad deformation

[ocean mauve]

Yeah probably only good if you use it as a reference, not as the actual model (even after cleaning it up a bit)

[valid heron]

But how do I fix it

[quasi violet]

Hi! did anyone use the TAA mod for beamng?

[ocean mauve]

Well again, it is on purpose, vanilla cars have it too, see screenshot

Unless you are talking about the front of the plate looking like that too (just realised you never specified, my bad)? In that case the person who made the mod probably used some kind of custom mesh for the license plate instead of a common one, they will have to fix it themselves and update the mod

[valid heron]

The plate seems to be flipped, pre-0.34 it looked normal

Front plate looks that way

[ocean mauve]

Ahh I see, yes issue for the modder to fix then

[valid heron]

What might be causing it

[ocean mauve]

(This pic was taken from the back, made the front bumper invisible so I could get a better look. Front looks like it should)

[rare arrow]

Hi, why alot of mods do this with textures? Anyone got idea?

[ocean mauve]

Not sure, if they were using a vanilla mesh it should've been fine. Easiest fix would be to go into the license plates .jbeam file and change the flexbody name to whatever the vanilla cars use (just licenseplate from the top of my head, while the eu one is licenseplate-52-11)

If that still doesn't fix it, the plate might've been flipped using "rot" (rotation) parameter that's behind the flexbody's name in the jbeam, changing that by 180* should do the trick

[ocean mauve]

Looks like that mod uses textures that were changed in an update. You'll have to ask the modder to fix it and update the mod

[rare arrow]

Hmm okay, thank you 🤝

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @ocean mauve (current: #3 - 287)

[slow salmon]

is modland.net trustable?

[fiery adder]

No

[ocean mauve]

I'd argue not. At least it is not recommended

Many mods will be low quality / stolen, and a few might even contain a virus or so (altough you will most likely be fine as long as you don't click any weird links or ads)

As for the official places to get mods from:

1. The in-game repo
2. https://www.beamng.com/resources/
3. https://www.beamng.com/categories/mods.23/

The search feature on the site is pretty bad, try googling site:beamng.com and then whatever it is you're looking for. That way it will only show results from the official site

[slow salmon]

okay thank you

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @ocean mauve (current: #3 - 289)

[fiery adder]

Do you have a copy paste page for this kinda thing?

[slow salmon]

You have a good subaru mod?

nvm found a good one using your method lol ty

Found a winter map anda subaru impreza WRX

[ocean mauve]

I just search for my own messages lol, for other common questions too (modding stuff)

[slow salmon]

about to have the time of my life

[slow salmon]

you make mods urself right? like vehicles etc

[fiery adder]

At this rate I’d keep a notepad window full of em lol

[ocean mauve]

Eh, this works too

[ocean mauve]

I've made a bunch of mods, but mostly just single parts for the vanilla cars. I have nowhere near enough skills to make a full car :P

[slow salmon]

ahh

you ever made models/vehicles for other games

maybe mxbikes?

[ocean mauve]

Nope

[tender summit]

\

oh god i accidently made a drive truck

[graceful echo]

cooked

[valid heron]

this worked! thanks

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @ocean mauve (current: #3 - 290)

[valid heron]

not sure about this shimmering any way to fix it?

[graceful echo]

dodge magnum mentioned!!

[rough mica]

is that a DODGE MAGNUM!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[valid heron]

Yea but Misty is driving it

[valid heron]

See the mirror:

[unique pasture]

any got some good old/classic car mods to recommend? im looking for stuff from between the 1920s and mid to late 60s

[ocean mauve]

Bruckell Nine

But jokes aside, https://discord.com/channels/710082165253079061/1150125945315934329

[unique pasture]

i mean if its easier to find, 50s to late 60s, also if anyone knows about any classic rolls royce mod please tell me, stuff like the 50s and 60s ones

[ocean mauve]

There is this too
https://www.beamng.com/resources/1960-gavril-dynamo-demo.31096/

As for any real life cars, I wouldn't know

[gray hornet]

i wish the landsdale had roof racks for 2 xl cargo crates for career

[odd oriole]

any one?

[ocean mauve]

what even is a horror mod for a car game

[odd oriole]

atlanto died so I am trying to find another one

[odd oriole]

the atlanto mod is a good example. Sadly it doesn't work in the newer versions

[ocean mauve]

how is that horror mod

just seems like an old town

[gray hornet]

try it

just drive around

[gray hornet]

there is a revolutionary feature on that map

[ocean mauve]

well according to my sources, "it doesn't work in the newer versions" ;)

[gray hornet]

downgrade

its wort it

[ocean mauve]

lol im good, not downgrading my game just for a mod

you do you tho

[drowsy leaf]

its just some scripting for a barely visible transparent car

[gray hornet]

shhhh

[gray hornet]

it was revolutionary at the time

[soft knoll]

did you guys know that the bruckell nine has modeled brake shoes in the drum brakes

[drowsy leaf]

wah
pic

[soft knoll]

i dont have

test it out tho

remove one wheel from it

[latent ivy]

Hello, good evening, how can I see the vehicles editor as before the update please? currently i have this and i can't modify any jbeam

[hot elbow]

Messing around with the world editor, somehow managed to get it stuck in night time

[carmine isle]

is modhost safe?

[dawn tiger]

no website other than the beam ng forums and the beam ng repo is 100% safe also most mods not on either of those websites is usually stolen mods

[jaunty bone]

i want opinions, is this a stupidly powerful torque curve?

[safe steeple]

can someone tell me when the RLS career mod 0.34 will be out?

[trim cove]

anyone knows if there's a way to edit the color of this lighting part on the therrier tograc? i would like to make a usdm kind of mod for it

tried looking in the material editor but could find anything

[vocal ore]

Where is the best place to download mods from?

[ocean mauve]

1. The in-game repo
2. https://www.beamng.com/resources/
3. https://www.beamng.com/categories/mods.23/

The search feature on the site is pretty bad, try googling site:beamng.com and then whatever it is you're looking for. That way it will only show results from the official site

There are also 3rd party sites such as Modland, but those feature a lot of low quality / stolen mods, and potentially even malicious content / viruses, so using such sites is not recommended. If you do, use at your own risk, and don't click any suspicious ads or links

[vocal ore]

Thx

[lusty bridge]

bmw e87 mod ?

[ocean mauve]

Light materials work a bit differently than normal materials. Instead of just having a material in the main.materials.json file of the car, they tend to have three (off/on/on_intense), and then the game uses a so called glowMap to decide when it should use those materials

For the Vivace/Tograc, these are the glowMaps for the drl's (they can be found in the main vivace.jbeam file)```json
"glowMap":{
"vivace_drl":{"simpleFunction":{"running":0.1,"lowbeam":0.49,"highbeam":0.49}, "off":"vivace_lights", "on":"vivace_lights_on_intense", "on_intense":"vivace_lights_on"},
"vivace_drl_signal_L":{"simpleFunction":{"running":0.1,"lowhighbeam":-0.1,"signal_L":1.0}, "off":"vivace_lights", "on":"vivace_lights_on_intense", "on_intense":"vivace_lights_signal"},
"vivace_drl_signal_R":{"simpleFunction":{"running":0.1,"lowhighbeam":-0.1,"signal_R":1.0}, "off":"vivace_lights", "on":"vivace_lights_on_intense", "on_intense":"vivace_lights_signal"},
}

(So for example if you want them to be orange while the car is running, change "on":"vivace_lights_on_intense" to "on":"vivace_lights_signal", or even to a custom made material

[trim cove]

i did that but nothing seems to change

okay im stupid i typed "vivance" in the file path

gravil d-seris moment

IT WORKED