mods-discussion

[tired coyote]

yes

[latent ivy]

or is it just a boyant mesh

[tired coyote]

it does eventually just die

way too early that is

[latent ivy]

does it just SNAP like a balloon skin and burst or does it bend

I wanna make things that BEND and squish realistically

[tired coyote]

the mesh is from a game that doesnt really simulate it

but the jbeam bends yes

[latent ivy]

I want screenshots of how it bends at different depths

the jbeam

[tired coyote]

that wont be what you want lmao

[latent ivy]

no but it helps me understand jbeam slightly better

[tired coyote]

the jbeam is a tube that has an extension on top and contains two boxes that resize according to how much buoyancy you want

it is far from what its like irl

simply because its too complex to properly simulate (and i was lazy)

[latent ivy]

I wanna advance on your attempt and help make it so cars SLOWLY become less boyant and sink at their own rates. if a door is missing it sinks like a rock etc but if you got a "better seals" mod or something it PLUGS the car so that part of the simulated boyancy drops to below whats the minimum and it begins to sink and equalize

[tired coyote]

you cant really do that unfortunately

[keen sapphire]

anyone got a drag f150 mod?

[tired coyote]

because water doesnt interact with the jbeam in the form of enclosed spaces or similar

it just applies drag forces to nodes that are underwater

theres some funky stuff with pressure groups but i dont think multi-part conditional stuff would work

i guess you can add additional triangles that wrap around the entire interior, those should do the breaking if you break the door beams e.g.

[drowsy leaf]

no

[latent ivy]

explain tires?

[tired coyote]

i did in that message

[tired coyote]

the beams break which causes the pressure group triangles to also break

[latent ivy]

hmm

[drowsy leaf]

?

[dawn tiger]

Anyone know how I could make a crappy electric to control a hydro that just moves at a certain frequency

[latent ivy]

OH IT DOES HAVE LIMITS

the wydra does break at a certain depth

idk what breaks first yet though

so theres little balloon j beam boxes that are what keep it boyant

little pressure boxes. thats cute

theres boxes that are like square balloon cubes

at a certain depth they break down due to occilations that cause the wydra to reset due to instability

[stuck sky]

anyone know why the rls mod causes my game to crash when i try to standard repair sometimes?

[keen sapphire]

I cant find it, so can someone find my a drag r35 gtr?

pleaseeee

[latent ivy]

what is the best lambo mod

[quick crow]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/2023-lamborghini-revuelto-remake.94332/

https://www.beamng.com/threads/improved-lamborghini-gallardo-v1-28.80412/

https://www.beamng.com/threads/lamborghini-aventador-2011-2022-kind-of-on-hold-for-now.92004/

https://www.beamng.com/threads/lamborghini-countach-0-146-update-revamp.90377/

Those

[upper pumice]

tysm

[dense jungle]

the issue is, tutorials on youtube both
a) use modland
b) literally dump mods in the contents folder

[drowsy leaf]

no do it yourself lazy

[latent ivy]

thx mate!

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @quick crow (current: #191 - 14)

[upper pumice]

janky Twincharged inline 6 i made

[dry quarry]

Im guessing non symmetric jbeam messes up the whole 3d model? As it looks like my car is a bit lobsided

[keen sapphire]

ive tried finding one, but I cant

thats why I asked for help

[drowsy leaf]

i doubt theres any

or at least any free/not private mod

[safe gazelle]

anyone know what would be involved in making the sbr's plastic look a bit less sun dried / faded?

would there be any adjustments i can make to the roughness/metallic maps or even the material file itself?

[wild pier]

i thought about getting into modding and i just want to say; thanks to everyone here who makes amazing high quality free mods, didnt even get to installing blender and i already gave up

[nimble ember]

does anyone know how to add stuff (specifically an global body of water/ocean) to a map using world editor??

[lilac badger]

I found this map really interesting in one of those car crashes videos ¿Does anyone know it or something similar? Heres the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhdqejaRhQ

[cyan drum]

something something texas

[dawn tiger]

River highway I'm pretty sure

[lilac badger]

I'll search for it

[lilac badger]

Yeah I'm pretty it's something like that

[granite bramble]

hello, not sure if this Q goes here. But my textures are buggin out on this car. I know its bc of another mod I have. I purged all the unneccesary mods and the ones i thought would cause the issue, but it still does it. Is there a way I can find what mod is causeing this car to break?? Any help is appreciated

[graceful harness]

Yo is improving to pbr as easy as changing the reflection type in the json or dae files or do you need to make new textures for pbr

[green stream]

Go to the material and upgrade the material from 1.0 to 1.5 pbr add in additional things as needed and set.

[graceful harness]

So it kinda is as easy as changing the json thing, what’s the additional things though

[dawn tiger]

you need a normal map a metalic map an ao map a roughness map

[graceful harness]

K, do I make them in blender or a different program

[dawn tiger]

I believe if you have your models textured in blender you can bake those maps in blender

[potent yoke]

How do I get realistic vehicles?

[ocean mauve]

https://www.beamng.com/forums/land.44/

[potent yoke]

What do I do?

[ocean mauve]

Search for a car you like, click the post. At the bottom of the first message of each post, there should be a .zip download

Then install it as a mod https://documentation.beamng.com/tutorials/mods/installing-mods/

(Manual installation)

[foggy palm]

i know this is late but why is mine not working (0.33 btw)

i did all of them right already

it did work but didn't appear in the garage editor

[plush creek]

why isn't realistic headllights mod working for my vehicles?

i followed the steps in the mod description but it doesn't work for some reason

[drowsy leaf]

might be outdated mod

[plush creek]

but i downloaded it from the mod repository yesterday

i thought that this is a mod used by many players so i didn't suspect that it would be outdated

if anyone can share a working mod for headlights for nighttime driving, it would be appreciated

[livid oasis]

This has to be the most beautiful and realistic scene I have ever made in BeamNG to date. What do you think? The textures are 4K PBR

[frozen tulip]

too much contrast imo

[thick niche]

lol

[coarse quail]

ya they broke it as of 0.33

[dusk gust]

looks pretty good

the textures look phenomenal dont get me wrong

everything else is good too

just uh..

eh,you get it

[shy glade]

i wanna make a rebadged covet but dont know zilch about modding can somone give me some tips please

[dawn tiger]

first get blender then find the covet dae and then remake the badges how you want

you would still ned to make a jbeam but model first lol

[mortal linden]

generally, how difficult is it to add road cars to beamng

i know adding jbeams is hard but what else

i want to mod for the game but i'm nervous to say the least

[dawn tiger]

https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/vehicle/tutorials/basic_car_tutorial/ id start with a part for a vehicle first but heres a tutorial to start with for cars

[mortal linden]

appreciate it

[old stone]

Is there any mod that simulate adjustable ECU?
Something like Fueltech...

[fleet zephyr]

Is there a mod to bring back the og bx? Because there are some cool mods that only work for the old one

[celest sundial]

I believe someone posted it on the forums, just google legacy 200bx beamng or smth and then put it in the vehicles folder

[shy glade]

thanks

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @dawn tiger (current: #72 - 38)

[livid oasis]

Thanks!

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @dusk gust (current: #327 - 7)

[livid oasis]

I don't know about that. It looks good to me

[lament latch]

are engine torque units in lb-ft in the jbeam?

how can i tell what units things are in?

[main aurora]

Hey all, hope the days is going well. Quick question, doesn anyone know of any good E46 M3 mods that are up to date?

[rugged fox]

does anybody know a 2019 ford f150 mod

[haughty bane]

How does the licensing of beamng code work exactly? Can i put a lua file from the base game to github?

I see i have to read up on bCDDL but thats a really depressing wall of text

[distant hare]

i mean if u dont like to read it post it to chat pgt and ask it to summarize it

[haughty bane]

i skimmed through and i guess its fine as long as i include the license text with

[distant hare]

i have not read it tbh so idk, but if i have big text to read that i dont like and i just need a few key facts i let it summarize

[fleet zephyr]

Alr

[fiery acorn]

question out of curiosity: could textures be used to make these headlights a bit better? and how should i start? i have no idea how to texture headlights

[red totem]

is there a mod for a convertible ETK 800?

[thick niche]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/etk-800-sedan-fastback-coupe-cabrio.590/updates

is outdated though, no others exsist

[tacit eagle]

your light entities seem bugged, there's no dynamic lights being cast

[icy tide]

are there any good BMW E60 / E90 mods out there?

[sweet pumice]

Small question: does anyone know any engine sound mod that has a similar sci-fi sounding to this?

[cyan drum]

nope

[upper zenith]

Hello does mods affect other players in mp mode or just the player using it

[umbral steppe]

Anyone know of a volkswagon golf mod? I have tried many but they domt work

[shell wyvern]

Anyone know a creator who has these wheels?

[summer kiln]

BeamMP now only activates mods installed on the server. You physically cannot enable/disable mods while running BeamMP from it's launcher

[viscid kestrel]

Dude why

Like just why.

[latent ivy]

https://youtube.com/shorts/jyzRXa6ZIWk?feature=shared

Can we have tape in beam please

I gotta see this in a police chase if someones afk you can tape their car and keep it in place with enough tape in first person with the beamling

Itd be priceless for afk users

[steady dew]

yo where do i download mods in here?

[latent ivy]

Just click on the car then click on the ground or a pole.... and-

[latent ivy]

Not in here. In the repository

[steady dew]

yea but in the repository theres no good mods

[latent ivy]

The official repository in game... those mods are safest(hopefully)

[steady dew]

ive got some mods, but i want a VS commodore and i cant find one

[latent ivy]

Forum. Mainly mods NEILOGICAl has used

Or other WELL known creators

Horochi ccf

Thats a high quality car mod

[steady dew]

i have a bunch of mods from Aussie beam, they are safe but im just in need of some mods for aussie cars

[latent ivy]

mountain goat. LOOK UP 'goat' in the repo

[steady dew]

the repository just doesnt have aussie cars which is really annoying cuz i like aussie skid pigs and there arent any

[latent ivy]

Im mentally extremely sleepy

[latent ivy]

I feel like they could add a nissan cube if they want as well

[steady dew]

im talking abt like VLs and VS and VC and AUs and VZs and allat

[latent ivy]

They need a gif of me drifting a green jeep.... I hugely support this game and hope it develops well

[latent ivy]

STABS A GIANT KNIFE INTO A CUTTING BOARD
In one hand. Would you LIKE to ruin it for everyone on beam mp and beam ng drive by currupting the game with viruses. Or.
stabs the stick of a lollipop into the same cuttingboard
Would you rather help support mod makers and make beam billions of times better and exercise patience and calm and not beg for mods here and risk losing your pc to a bad person

[latent ivy]

This is solely up to you all entering here. Thats the choice each of you makes when you get a mod. Dont take it for granted and DOUBLE CHECK the mods safety.

Say safe out there all of you

[shell wyvern]

Look up ( htown swangas ) on YouTube and you’ll understand why

[upbeat ferry]

Anyone know how I can delete this mod from the game? ive deleted almost every file of the car I can find but it still wont leave my vehicle menu

[neon magnet]

Forever cursed by the g80 m3 touring

Clear cache

[upbeat ferry]

All im trying to do is upload the updated version of the g80 to my pc is there any other way without clearing cache?

[neon magnet]

Chec ur user folder or vehicles folder (if u added the mod there)

[abstract mango]

🧐

[glass lagoon]

can someone hook me up with a 4x4 track that has rockcrawling and tracks

[quick pagoda]

swangas 😎 to make a houston slab

thats the point of a realistic simulator, isnt it

[quick pagoda]

https://www.beamng.com/resources/1320i-slab-series-swangas.23589/

i have fallen into this rabbit hole and this is the only one that exists for beamng afaik

kinda dated i suppose but good enough

[dense jungle]

Where did you put that mod in

[rugged fox]

does anybody know a 2019 f150

mod

[quick pagoda]

He probably unzipped it and put it along with the game files.

[rugged fox]

bummer

[rugged fox]

do you know a mod

[woeful marsh]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/ridge-city-ridge-racer-universe.101504/

[brazen cypress]

Neo h*e, just need dash, front door panels, center console

[thick niche]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-ugh-headache-gif-7532429

[waxen oasis]

bro☠️☠️☠️

[past oasis]

how do i locate a cars file, a modded car, if i lost the name for example
hypothetically i make all of my mods asdadsasdasd.zip and variations of that and now i need to find which one is which

could there be something in the editor that told me the name?

[latent ivy]

Orange truck

[waxen oasis]

orange windows

[latent ivy]

Rip

[past oasis]

i found going into the vehicles and clicking on player it tells u what the vehicle name is but only the vehicle not the zip

[latent ivy]

Oh

[barren magnet]

id bet a nickel that this uses stolen segra jbeam

[waxen oasis]

i dont think it has good jbeam

[barren magnet]

because it probably wasnt made for that model

because its probably using the segra’s jbeam

[bronze cloud]

What do think about this guy

https://www.patreon.com/HarkonixRenderings?utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan

[cyan drum]

smells like shitty meshslaps

[bronze cloud]

Look the Chevy looks quality no?

[cyan drum]

looks aren't everything

no jbeam pics = stay away

[bronze cloud]

Do you have any examples of those who do?

[cyan drum]

me

[bronze cloud]

I mean jbeam pics

[cyan drum]

not of his mods

[bronze cloud]

Oh I thought you were building mods

[cyan drum]

I do

thought you meant jbeam pics of his mods

[bronze cloud]

Where can i do you see all your mods? Do you have any website?

[cyan drum]

check my bio

[bronze cloud]

Do you prepare mods according to a customer's request?

[barren magnet]

nobody does that

[cyan drum]

no I don't

[barren magnet]

if someone sells you on commissions, youre going to get scammed or the product will not be good

beamng mods take too much work to do properly to be commissioned unless youve got 10 grand burning a hole in your pocket

[barren magnet]

yeah dont trust that lol

[thick niche]

definitely don't trust it

[cyan drum]

lol who's this

[bronze cloud]

https://www.patreon.com/1320industries?utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan

[barren magnet]

“custom mod delveopment”

[cyan drum]

lmao

[barren magnet]

10 bucks to get some ripped wheel models ported into beam

[bronze cloud]

That really sounds too good, there is logic in what you say

Most of the people who advertise in these stores are primarily looking for support

[barren magnet]

it is too good to be true because theyve been pushing this scam for years

they literally rip forza wheels, put them in beamng and sell it for up to 20 bucks

iirc their camaro z28 was mostly barstow jbeam

90% of real car patreon mods are grifts

usually terribly done meshslaps

[dawn tiger]

I do commissions but I just do custom subwoofers for cars not full blown cars or anything

[dense jungle]

and it tarnishes the reputation mods badly

particularly high quality mods

[narrow cobalt]

I don't think it has a good anything

[junior meadow]

My new 1970s Ford F150 mod should be coming out tomorrow "Automation Build"

[waxen oasis]

it has good "no textures"

[waxen oasis]

💀

[hushed hound]

WIP hybrid tesla mod pack (automation/beamng drive)

[obsidian wyvern]

I know I won't be able to make this, but I found a road on West Coast USA that has a really good street track. If anyone has the time to make this, it would be a banger.

[nocturne spire]

great job LMAOO

[fickle grail]

hey does anyone have a toyota supra mk4 mod i can download? thanks

[digital marlin]

anyone have any map mod suggestions? I dont have any maps and kinda getting tired of the standard ones ngl

also if you guys have any rlly good car mods that are of modern supercars (i.e. lamborghini, mclaren, ferrari, etc.) I would rlly appreciate recommendations

[fickle grail]

following

[summer kiln]

Mod idea: Beamling driver
Uses unicycle configuration but without the movement ball, and basically allows for having a physical driver in the seat

[upbeat ferry]

Vehicles file

[upbeat ferry]

Yeah it’s an old file before I knew how to do it all properly and now I’m trying to get rid of it😭😭

[jagged oasis]

yo whats a good map MOD

[summer kiln]

there's many but imo there's only one that I would recommend: OGC 2, a full combination of WCUSA, ECUSA, Utah and Jungle Rock

The highway that's under construction in WCUSA was completed so now you have a full loop highway and all four maps are seamlessly traversable

[jagged oasis]

k thank u

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @summer kiln (current: #275 - 9)

[summer kiln]

What mod am I supposed to disable here? I already cleared my cache and I have no intention of disabling one by one

[rapid kelp]

go to mods manager and check which files are corrupted/interfering. I think theres a button for it somewhere on the right side

(could be wrong but oh well)

[summer kiln]

I can't even load into the map I wanted to load into to check

I'm not dealing with this BS right now, i'll check tomorrow

[bronze cloud]

I saw a lot of channel post a expensive service

Everyone wants a lot of money every month

[bronze shard]

one of those is supposedly lifetime, the others seem to just generally be a higher tier with a few extra benefits for people who want to give more. not a great metric to use, would be better to compare the lower price that offers most of the typical benefits

[brazen cypress]

Anyone know where i can get a working Garfield heights

[latent ivy]

Or a HUGE team that you know personally that you can work with on a project. Strength in numbers but only with people you know and trust

Its hard to get in touch with other mod makers or collaberate. I WANNA break that cycle and bring people together and see how that plays out and make some mods together with people and help troubleshoot things

I cant do mods on my own. Id need someone dedicated in blender that knows how to take art or a design and turn it into 3d 'efficiently and passionately'. Then id need to know how to get such an object and its respective parts and pieces into beam as one unit. If snowchains CANT BE DONE... I am all in on collaboration ideas for boats and planes etc. We can start with submarines if thats ok with anyone.

The reason im asking to collaborate is today along with every other attempt my computer overheated and started bugging out. I cant risk blowing up that laptop yet. But I cant just let myself sit and do nothing. I wanna be part of making mods one way or another.

If anyones interested in submarines let me know. Im a noob. I could use some help

[bronze cloud]

So according to what to choose the service they offer and how to know which one is the best and fastest?

For example, I am interested in vehicles that you see every day on the roads, such as the Subaru Forester

Or a Mitsubishi Outlander

[ocean mauve]

...so then what would you do in such a 'collaboration'?

[latent ivy]

Id try to be all I can be. I never really got asked this before but I know I do well leading groups of people. Idk yet if im being completely honest. What do you expect?

[ocean mauve]

Well a collab would mean working together, but this just sounds like the other person would have to do all the actual work

No offense

[latent ivy]

Im limited by my temper and my devices at worst. My creativity and ability to help out and do my part are limited by the tech I use. Im not made of money so whatever I create needs to be decently optimized for everyones sake including my own. I WAS THINKING of creating a submarine that has gauges etc that work and can read depth.

[latent ivy]

Id try my best to pull myy weight. I do well in short bursts but it wipes me out but I dont cut corners. If I know how to help and my pc can handle it I will jump in. If im a helper of a project and troubleshooting and testing with others as a team id feel right at home. Im too hands on to let people just DO everything for me

Its midnight rn so im very tired and stressed out but tomarrow I might be hyper. Who knows. I hope I got energy but not too much energy.

flops tiredly onto my face

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleepy-sleepy-head-sleepy-dog-puppy-gif-18194712609032041036

I bet you know im running on E atm.... im sorry.

[ocean mauve]

Well again no offense, but if you're 'too hands on to let people just do everything for you', but you have no modding skills yet, a collaboration might not be the best of ideas.

Try getting to know the basics of modding yourself first, by making something simple like a new bumper for one of the vanilla cars. You can work your way up from there to projects that get slightly bigger and complexer each time.

That way you can learn piece by piece, instead of diving straight in to making something super complex like a whole submarine

[ocean mauve]

Haha no worries, we've all been there ;)

[latent ivy]

I dont usually function that well. That step up exponentially thing isnt my favorite bit. Unusually im the guy that jumps face first into things out of a STRONG inspiration. Then it kinda stalls out but it leaves me with a decent enough experience to fix things the next time Im inspired. Within a group Id be the guy thatd make sure every bit works as it should testing it and then trying to break it i kinda wanna help design The hull of the sub rn but im to tired. Im scared of doing military suubs because if anyone knows how war thunder arguments go down. I might do something simple like a box with beveled edges so its KINDA round but more of a rectangular design. Wont be able to go as deeo but the physics would be super visible in third person even

You know those square eraser cubes?

Hmmm. Wait a minute wait. Maybe a suub that is like a narrow version of a pink eraser shape

It all starts with a basic shape and then it evolves in my head even when im this tired

The edges are angular... but something similar to this with small drone like thrusters on the four corners that can rotate forward and back with < AND > AND BALLAST that can be keybind + and -

The front end should be slightly angled so it noses down slightly the faster you go forward so you can save battery and focus on speed to dive and slow down to ascend at a certain depth I did notice... the wydra SINKS.... after a certain depth I need to research that phenomenon a bit

I... guess im research and design

And probably troubleshooting with functionality

[latent ivy]

You still here?

I do have SOME experience with things. I did design a monorail train and its doors and mechanics on my own with help with the code I salvaged to make vehicles from scratch

[deft kite]

Well, a sub is cool, but as others said, I strongly recommend getting to know the basics behind modding first

[latent ivy]

Where should I start exactly

....maybe the best thing rn is sleep

Are you both gonna be here tomarrow to help guide me?

I do best with a 1 on 1 sort of thing. If people throw doccuments at me instead of teaching me I get so lost

[bronze shard]

you wont have much luck with those sorts of vehicles on patreon. the overwhelming majority of patreon modders just pump out hella garbage that just looks pretty. i would skip anyone that has a minimum pledge over 20usd/month, anyone with funky letters/alt fonts in their names and be wary of truck or drag modders.
there are probably a few other general rules like asking here before buying or whatever. even when you do find the rare quality mod it might be yoinked from someone else, you have to really be careful with that side of paid mods

[dense jungle]

You shouldn’t put them in there, there’s a mods folder for a reason as well as the warning in caps in the vehicles folder

[pastel flare]

heys guys, anybody know if theres a way to sculpt a terrain block to a collisionmesh?

I imported a .dae from blender of my local touge, but setting up roads to properly conform to it seems, impossible... so I'm wondering if its possible to create a terrainblock, and sculpt it directly to that, and build my roads and smooth the terrain that way?

[bronze cloud]

Thank you very much for the guidance - I appreciate the reference and the desire to help, I will try to check again and if I see some kind of years of service page that might look good for around 10-12 dollars between then I will send it here in the group because I see people here who are willing to advise at least on this issue of the mother. The page is high quality or a fake

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @bronze shard (current: #121 - 24)

[ocean mauve]

I'll be around to answer some questions about specific things if I have time, but for a step by step guide your best bet would be a youtube tutorial

The MfD server had good tutorials too, it's linked in this message: #community-announcements message

And the documentation can be very helpful too https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/vehicle/

[bronze cloud]

Guys look at this whats now

[dense jungle]

yeah thats definitely just a d series meshslap

[bronze cloud]

He always sends me all kinds of things. I might have signed up for his service, but I don't pay him any money

[dense jungle]

if it was really good, it'd be posted on the forums and for free

[bronze cloud]

This is the guy

[quick pagoda]

lmao

[fringe venture]

Hi everyone, has anyone had any problem with the repo D Series mod? I'm running in a couple problems and I don't know why it doesn't work..

[barren magnet]

which one

theres literally hundreds of d series mods

if not thousands

[fringe venture]

the repo d series mod

https://www.beamng.com/resources/repo-tow-track-parts-for-the-d-series.31907/

When i try to add the repo parts, i get the "repo main long" option, which when i select it, it doesn't update anything.

which is not what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be called just repo main.
There is a d series repo variant preloaded from the mod, and it has the repo main option.

I have no idea why in no d series i see the repo main option, but i se the repo main long. Has anyone had this problem, or knows how to solve it?

[barren magnet]

low quality roamer meshslap

[quick pagoda]

delete this shit

[drowsy leaf]

considering modding anything as complex as what you want takes possibly multiple years of experience, you have to assume youll have to do everything by yourself with little outside help, because reasonably, nobody is gonna spend that much time helping

@deft kite bootleg mod, pls remove :p

https://www.patreon.com/posts/how-to-install-112571775 LMAO from this guys post 💀
the only thing you can read and its already against how you should actually install mods 💀

[fringe venture]

at least his name gives credit to his mods..

[drowsy leaf]

so true mate

[deft kite]

1165 members too

[fringe venture]

does anyone know anything about this?

[latent ivy]

Well with that mindset obviously not. If someone really thinks it is worth it and wants something out of it as bad as I do experience becomes a fun mistake filled journey

[fringe venture]

;-;

[fringe venture]

there are also tons of yt vids about this mod (even playing career mode with it) and no one has this problem..

[barren magnet]

he’s speaking from experience. beamng modding is not something someone can just dive into. its quite complicated and literally takes years to learn and be proficient in. there’s a reason why most of the biggest mods took as long as they did to come out. theo w’s ccf2 was like 2 years in the making, and had a pretty expansive list of people helping

and unless you can prove that you bring something functionally to the table, people will not be inclined to work with you

[thick niche]

i'm 2 years in just learning to make parts/ suspensions/ addons. I still cannot jbeam properly.

[drowsy leaf]

Mod might be broken, updates break stuff

If the vids have been released recently, try opening safe mod and installing just that mod

[fringe venture]

i'll try this later. Regarding if it's broken, I don't think it's the case. There are comments under that mod from days ago saying that is works

[barren magnet]

then there may be a mod conflict

[thick niche]

best contact the RLS discord, it's part of their overall career mod i believe and people are posting/ fixing issues there.

[fringe venture]

already deactivated all ;-;

[barren magnet]

just because it’s deactivated doesnt mean it wont conflict

[fringe venture]

do you have an invite?

[barren magnet]

do like lichi said and open in safe mode and install only that mod

[fringe venture]

thank you

[latent ivy]

Wanna work together? I wanna see just how inexperienced I am and if I really can catch up as fast as I think I can. What are you working on?

The word suspension did catch my eye.

[thick niche]

https://discord.com/channels/710082165253079061/1301222240473583696

but i have nothing you can help me with.

[drowsy leaf]

It's not fun, trust me

[thick niche]

it's a very basic mod and still takes months of development

[drowsy leaf]

And I have the gift(or not gift) of having Asperger's which helps with motivation most times

[latent ivy]

You know discouraging someone isnt a great way to make them useful. No offense. I find things like this funm frustrating af. But. Worth it in the end

So how did you start on the S10?

[thick niche]

hes just realistically preparing you for how much is involved. Beamng is one of the hardest games to mod for and learning it typically takes 1-2 years to be a amateur at best.

[deft kite]

making random stuff with jbeam is fun ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick niche]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNqsS5a9XVM

I learned via this tutorial, and then the rest is just diving into vanilla files to see how things work

[mossy frigate]

I can make a new car after just 1 and a half years
It took a whole year though (and isn’t released yet) and the body model and jbeam aren’t scratch made

[mossy frigate]

Best modding tutorial
I used it too

[thick niche]

well tbh I tend to do my learning while i'm on some scented greens

[drowsy leaf]

im not discouraging im stating the facts

[thick niche]

so half of it sticks and half of it doesnt lol.

[wicked karma]

anyone know of how i can add hellraisers modular 4.6 ford motor mod/sound to another car mod non vanilla (99_04_sn95 mod in particular- its public so i could send the file)

[drowsy leaf]

if you stopped modding when you are high you might become good trol

[thick niche]

hue hue hue

[thick niche]

go into hellraisers engine jbeam and change the slot type to the vehicle you want to add.

[drowsy leaf]

luckily for me that isnt an option here since greens arent legal here

[latent ivy]

They said the same thing about blender but I ended up creating an entire character from scratch if I wasnt lazy id fix the fingers of that character by now.

Time ended up flying

But I enjoyed it.

[drowsy leaf]

i consider blender the fun part

[thick niche]

that's good you have that mentality. I suggest start learning via the forums and vanilla files.

[mossy frigate]

Blender is the fun part for me too

[drowsy leaf]

but yea ^^ do that

[latent ivy]

Now we are getting into info I will pay attention to

[drowsy leaf]

because your idea of making a realisic submarine i dont think is evne possible

[thick niche]

yeah blender is the fun part. everything else is a drag

[latent ivy]

Mmmmmmm it might be but it may be a massive trial and error for a while

[drowsy leaf]

i just like modeling more since everything else is mostly repetitive tasks

[mossy frigate]

With custom Lua it’s maybe possible

But lua is hard

[deft kite]

I dislike the creation of textures lol

[thick niche]

^

[mossy frigate]

I always use existing textures

[wicked karma]

could you spoon feed a little of that via DM's?curious if i'd just be dragging and dropping files in one or the other folder so to say?

edit: i'd love to add hellraisers engines to some other vehicles aswell overall so if i learn it proper the first go round it would be great.

[deft kite]

making stuff in blender is not my best skill, but jbeam is more fun for me

[fringe venture]

still repo main long, even in safe mode

[drowsy leaf]

luckily with me having learnt how to blender bake (i also bought bakewrangler) its now more incorporated into my blender enviroment and im starting to enjoy that

[fringe venture]

such a lucky guy :)

funy

[thick niche]

😄 want a fun project. lol jk

[latent ivy]

:3

[mossy frigate]

Idk how hard Roblox modding is, but lua is definitely harder
I’d try learning it but I didn’t find any documentation on it

[latent ivy]

At this point a full submarine soinds easier to make than snowchains

[deft kite]

I havent modded seriously in years lol

[mossy frigate]

Why do I always forget replying?

[drowsy leaf]

i think my problem is just being shit at math, which is a problem when im studying to be a programmer, tho im slowly getting better at it

[thick niche]

i've still gotta make a shortened frame/ running gear for the s10.

[latent ivy]

I UNDERSTAND lua. Slightly.

[latent ivy]

Cool

[thick niche]

not cool, i'm on attempt like 15.

[drowsy leaf]

yea would probably be
but both things are VERY hard

[deft kite]

I actually started to revisit my calculus yesterday lol

[latent ivy]

Is it as simple as grabbing it and unsubdividing a few loops then shrrinking the frame along that axis?

Or whats it called in blender?

[drowsy leaf]

no its not a colmesh

[latent ivy]

Whats a colmesh?

[mossy frigate]

Collision mesh I think

[latent ivy]

Oh

[drowsy leaf]

just do Ctrl M and Ctrl T on a car in beamng

thats the """"""""""""""""""""""""colision mesh""""""""""""""""""

[deft kite]

jbeam is a physics model made of nodes, beams, triangles and electrics
Lua is used to control the electrics (and more)

the beams are actually trusses but TrussNG doesnt sound nice

[drowsy leaf]

a what

[latent ivy]

Mmmmmmm~ I need more examples on that. If you got screenshots. Explain the screenshots to me real quick

[drowsy leaf]

as i said open the game and do

[drowsy leaf]

this

[latent ivy]

I just opened blender though to make the model or the outline of the sub cube

[drowsy leaf]

what is reccomended to most begginers is to modify something from a vanilla car, this means you most likely will edit an already existing 3d modeled part from a vanilla car, and you will just need to adjust the jbeam and probably no new textures

anyways im going to go back to NFSU2

[mossy frigate]

And I’m waiting at the dentist for half an hour now

[latent ivy]

OK

[mossy frigate]

It always takes forever

[latent ivy]

Take your time and enjoy

[mossy frigate]

I don’t enjoy waiting

[latent ivy]

Welcome to my life

I forgot how to bevel in blender

This is gonna be 'FUN'

Control B

Thanks google....

[mossy frigate]

You know that you can add cylinders if you want to model the submarine now

Probably better than bevels

[barren magnet]

if you’re still on the beginnings of blender, youve got a ways to go before attempting to make a full scratch built mod

[thick niche]

i always box it out then add loop cuts and bevels from there

[barren magnet]

yeah cylinders can be annoying to work with

[latent ivy]

THATS WHAT ITS CALLED

LOOPCUTS THANK YOU

so far

i GOT A FUNNY feeling I may add a missile to this if I ever figure that out. anyone up for helping me make litteral torpedos?

Loop cuts.... mmmmmm

[wicked karma]

butter missile. 🤣

[latent ivy]

Fine lets name it that in beam ng drive

I needed a name. We can find a better placeholder later

[wicked karma]

need that as a beamling projectile like the weapons mod- could you imagine hurling sticks of butter at cars in game for fun? 🤣

[latent ivy]

Well this is supposed to be a 30 foot submarine so Idk about that but maybe butter colored torpedos for the fun of it

[wicked karma]

sub with missiles? well thats wild- now you've got me thinking how you could have literal sub warfare matches with projectiles in beam via beamMP 😂

i'm not well versed on beams buoyancy system with water but if ships work subs should work proper too i take it.

[latent ivy]

what should I add to it. I am letting you help me decide

[drowsy leaf]

you can have airplane fights with some of the flying vehicles ingame

[latent ivy]

there are NUKES also

IMAGINE if you had depth charges

[drowsy leaf]

you are thinking of one of those battleship games not a car game

[latent ivy]

I will wanna toss this at one of my other discord friends because he just might be willing to help me design the interior frame etc

and the shape of the power unit

I happen to know a LOT about vehicles and how they are powered but.... never really wanted to use blender to make things like this but things change and now im doing exactly that

at this rate I could end up making beam ng drive blimps also

its just a simple flip of how buoyant things can be

blimps float in AIR. submarines are harder and way more dense

like WAY MORE dense

does this look batter structrurally ?

or this?

[drowsy leaf]

dude
stick to cars

especially for a begginer, breaking the bounds of what the game is design for is just a plain bad idea

[latent ivy]

its beam ng drive. I will eventually drive a sub.

not beam ng car

[drowsy leaf]

ok but like
this game is design for driving land vehicles on wheels

[latent ivy]

planes exist. boats exist

[drowsy leaf]

its like turning gta5 into a management sim tycoon game

[drowsy leaf]

made by people with mich more experience than you and me

you have to be realistic not idealistic

[latent ivy]

well its not gonna stop me from trying

[frank cove]

Submarines aren’t possible, not realistically at least because you can’t displace water.

Any submarine you make will have water on the interior still which will probably effect how they work

[drowsy leaf]

^^

[frank cove]

I also think it would need a custom map. No BeamNg map has a detailed ocean floor yet

[drowsy leaf]

and i mean if Zeit which is one of the best modders in terms of coding wild stuff that isnt meant to be done couldnt fully figure it out, its very very unlikely that a begginer will be

[tired coyote]

This is indeed the problem

[drowsy leaf]

speak of the devil

[tired coyote]

Volume displacement just isn't a thing in beam

[drowsy leaf]

hi zeit

[tired coyote]

Neither air or water

[frank cove]

Yeah. The water physics are good for driving through shallow bits or boating on top but driving in the water is weird at best

Also side note; the electric cars should probably break down when driving under water

[latent ivy]

under enough pressure NO SEAL is perfect

[tired coyote]

Tbf they would if electrics were to interact with water at all

[drowsy leaf]

ok but like the game doesnt support not having water inside of the vehicle

[latent ivy]

it does simulate crush depth

[drowsy leaf]

but it doesnt simulate water in itself

as zeit said, it cant displace water

[frank cove]

Yeah. The batteries should have a similar system to intake level detection for combustion cars.

Hell some electric cars fry themselves with a heavy duty car wash 😂

[drowsy leaf]

yeah just make em last for like a few more seconds than an engine and make the "intake" damage permenent or take much more time so the water stops affecting the system

and maybe multiply power output by the damage %

[frank cove]

Maybe make it like destroying an air tank too. Where the brakes all lock on to simulate the car going somewhat haywire

Could honestly be a fun mod to have realistic electrics

[tired coyote]

which is by far not the only factor that influences movement in water

[latent ivy]

im aware

I am also aware my design might begin to pancake at a certain depth

trying to add rigidity to the shape so its harder to burst open and sink

[barren magnet]

you are missing the point of what theyre trying to tell you

its not a design related problem

its a fundamental “game does not support this” problem

[drowsy leaf]

yes ^^^^^^^^^^

especially when you arent skilled enough to work around the problems that weve told you, in some cases because you arent experienced, in others, because its just not got a solution

[teal salmon]

Does anyone know good rolls royce mod? Pm me please

[drowsy leaf]

no

[latent ivy]

im taking a break now

I got further than I thought I would with the hull shape in blender

give me about a year or so and we will be ready to do some crazy rp with such a mod

given im nudged a little if i get stuck

this kind of diving head first into stuff does take it out of me

I will get there :3

eventually

(now if it was lua just adjusting variables to keep boiling water etc under control so you dont have an explosive burst that leads into an implosion..... yee)

soooooo who wants nuclear powered(much harder to code into beam ng drive) vs electric

batteries dont deal with pressures

[latent grove]

Anyone has some meme/funny cars for beamng that ar NOT viruses?

[thick niche]

https://www.beamng.com/forums/land.44/

you can look through here

[latent grove]

Thanks

[drowsy leaf]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/1492-2077-liar-multiple-skill-issues.88022/

https://www.beamng.com/threads/1984-ishubu-100bx-turbo-ii-gtr-super-gt-z.96373/

[thick niche]

best mod 10/10

[latent grove]

thx

[latent ivy]

IM HAVING so much fun

hehe

[drowsy leaf]

is that sacrasm

[latent ivy]

IM up for an abstract design that isnt just a tube.. yes. its sarcasm I hurt myself yesterday and you guys bonking me over the head saying "do this this way".... its dragging me down a bit and I cut my finger open real bad earlier and am still healing. the thing with projects like this is you NEED a very ambitious person to push the envelope of whats possible in order for INNOVATION TO EVEN EXIST

you only live once and id rather be in a world thats changing and improving than one that stagnates

you guys do have experience i cant ignore. I will let you know where and how I got stuck so its more of an I told you so moment

just for you guys

[drowsy leaf]

idk i rather let a cut in the finger heal if its got any danger of infecting by doing stuff shrug

and we arent putting you down we are just saying things as they are

as much as i like being idealist, you need to be realistic too

[bronze cloud]

I want to sort out the mods for the only fee I have seen that is worth it at the cost of 11 dollars is Spadie it has mods for Kia Sporage and modern vehicles that you see every day on the roads

[latent ivy]

I am waitin to hear back from a friend if hes willing to design an interior with me thats easy to roll around as a beamling in. you will be able to wonder around some... I hope. we will see how that turns out. ( the thing is you will have to be in the seat and not accidentally hit F because beam doesnt have beamlings that arent hyperbuoyant

[drowsy leaf]

and if many experienced people tell you you shouldnt do something, theres usualy a reason why we tellking you

[latent ivy]

I'll f$%k around and find out if thats ok with you all...

[drowsy leaf]

the beamlings / player object thing is buoyant, it will make your thing float more than it should

[latent ivy]

does that do that in a seat... as well?

I may have to double check ballast when I get to that.

[drowsy leaf]

dont buy his mods they are generally vanilla car code slapped on top of a real life vehicle, with bad deformation and doesnt drive like the irl thing

[latent ivy]

I wont do car mods because I wanna yeet myself down an uncharted path

if i crash into a tree... so be it

[thick niche]

uncharted path because its not doable

[latent ivy]

we will see

[drowsy leaf]

yea its not an uncharted path

its a fucking void

[thick niche]

there aint no see about it, you've already been informed the water physics are bare level workings

[latent ivy]

a void i will happily see if theres anything in

[latent ivy]

have you sank a car till tires implode before?

if the beam ng drive tires can do that, so can bigger objects. thats what im planning on figuring out

[drowsy leaf]

no because most if not all beamng maps dont even go that deep

[latent ivy]

my sub will maybe have a max rating as deep as 500 feet

idk how deep it can go it doesnt exist yet in beam ng drive

thats the fun bit. making the damn thing lol

[bronze cloud]

are you serious? I didn't know, the truth is that it is the only one that offers mods of modern vehicles that you see every day on the roads like Kia Sorento or Kia Sportage

Its call NPC Cars

Normal cars you seen on the road I mean

[drowsy leaf]

yeah but like the problem is that water phisics are not enough to code a proper submarine

[modest turtle]

I like kia sportage

I drove it its kinda fun to drive

[drowsy leaf]

please dont buy those shitty mods, they overpriced, you can find better stuff for free elsewhere

[tired coyote]

make a cube, give it a pressure group and check what it does

no need to put effort in a model that you cant make work

[modest turtle]

Oh ya other than beamng forums/repo dont get mods

[latent ivy]

I have been through hell and back with roblox lua..... I know.... this is a huge superultra big challange for me but i wanna see what I am capable of. I am a destructive person that WANTS SOMETHING AND will figure out how to get there.. im like an ameba trying to find food-

[latent ivy]

thank you for pointing me in a direction

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @tired coyote (current: #66 - 40)

[latent ivy]

so do i go into a world editor?

[bronze cloud]

I have the premium version car 1.6 turbo 2024 in black color and I really like it but I really want a quality mod for it that plays and it's hard for me to find

[tired coyote]

jbeam is text editor based json pretty much

[drowsy leaf]

no thats not how you jbeam

[latent ivy]

I am following you step by step

[modest turtle]

Very nice :D

[latent ivy]

I did make a video messing with the DEPTH that a wydra can take and it appears little balloons exist inside it that make it buoyant

4 of them i think

they break and thats what causes the wydra to explode and reset at a certain depth

[tired coyote]

yes we have indeed figured out that crush depth exists

[drowsy leaf]

mhm yes we know that, i dont know what you are getting tha

[tired coyote]

theres a tutorial in the mfd discord

[latent ivy]

ok....

[tired coyote]

unfortunately it uses nbe so its old lol

[latent ivy]

yeah and i got serious sensory overload again lol

it took me a YEAR to design my oc in blender

[olive spire]

Yeah I tried his mods and there’s no quality control Some of them are actually good (by that I mean like 3 of them) and he has one of the biggest bias of any paid modder

[drowsy leaf]

what does that mean

theres a big difference between being able to model persons and living things and objects

i can model things like this, but tell me to model a rock or a human and i just cant

[latent ivy]

well . pressure affects all matter we are made of right? my point is I know the basics of blender at the least. if I can make it then the hard part will be coding the engine and thrusters and lights

there is a lot less moving parts in a submarine

[tired coyote]

right so
i want you to install this, then unpack it via the mods manager

the lines interesting to you are these

[latent ivy]

OK NOW THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT HECK YEAH LEMME SEE THIS

[tired coyote]

also read this
https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/vehicle/sections/triangles/

specifically the optional arguments

[latent ivy]

adhd go BRRRR

[latent ivy]

how do you access things like code

[tired coyote]

open the file

as text

[latent ivy]

that simple?

[tired coyote]

yes

lua too, its not compiled

[latent ivy]

oK I THOUGHT IT WAS WAY MORE COMPLEX

[dense jungle]

i want to pitch in and say the same

I can model more simpe vehicles but have me start making a beam vehicle and i dont know where to begin

[tired coyote]

did you read ANY of the jbeam introduction

[latent ivy]

nope because

[latent ivy]

...

[tired coyote]

oh my fucking god

[drowsy leaf]

....

[latent ivy]

breath

[drowsy leaf]

ok that literally means nothing

ive got aspergers and that doesnt mean i go haywire and just do random things

[latent ivy]

I will get lost at walmart

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-roronoa-zoro-black-leg-sanji-the-road-just-ends-how-the-hell-can-anyone-get-lost-on-a-straight-path-gif-16427004

[drowsy leaf]

what are you fucking saying

[latent ivy]

give me a bit to refocus

like, ten minutes

[bronze cloud]

Yes, it's not easy to find quality mods, there are a lot in the model, but most of them are garbage and the support is nothing

[latent ivy]

hmmmm....

[drowsy leaf]

why is it a bedrock block

[olive spire]

Ye

[latent ivy]

thats the texture im assuming @tired coyote

[olive spire]

It’s really hard to find good every day traffic cars

[drowsy leaf]

yes, because most people dont like to drive around boring stuff

[olive spire]

Yeah I guess most the cars people find fun are boring to me

[tired coyote]

Yes obv

[bronze cloud]

It is also important that the vehicle's mod be of high quality when it is destroyed and the experience be realistic. Its texture is also very important - you usually see disdain in many mods

[latent ivy]

mhm

[tired coyote]

Jbeam display options are in the parts editor under the debug tab at the top

[latent ivy]

ok

[olive spire]

Yeah I don’t really care about the quality if it’s a free mod but if you’re making $200 a month off Patreon which isn’t a lot but it’s money that people are paying you I expect good mods

And the game is like 25$ us when I bought it

And I get free cars every update

[dense jungle]

if its a paid mod then its just illegal to sell

paid real brand mod*

[latent ivy]

vc?

[olive spire]

Yeah, it’s technically illegal but no brands go after anybody

[dense jungle]

except ferrari

[latent ivy]

vc?

[tired coyote]

No

[latent ivy]

ok

how do you make the cube have weight that keeps it from infinity rotating in the water

[tired coyote]

It has weight

[latent ivy]

it does clearly but its so buyant

[tired coyote]

You can increase the weight with the one number variable that has weight in the name

[latent ivy]

ok

so node weight?

[drowsy leaf]

mhm

[teal salmon]

what mods do you sell

[drowsy leaf]

none currently

[latent ivy]

I am trying to make it heavier to make it sink and it wont sink

[drowsy leaf]

make it heaveir

[latent ivy]

how do you save it

[drowsy leaf]

https://lordlichi06.gumroad.com/ iused to sell these appart from the 2 top ones but it wasnt a good idea so after a while i made them free with possible donation

im also planning on selling the BMW mod im making but thats like a long time

[drowsy leaf]

by pressing the save button

[latent ivy]

it tries to save it as a text file

instead of jbeam

[drowsy leaf]

did you unpack the mod or are you opening the jbeam without unzipping the file

[latent ivy]

oh

[tired coyote]

I told you to unpack the mod dude

[drowsy leaf]

rlly? ._.

[teal salmon]

i see vanilla cars

[drowsy leaf]

yes because those are vanilla cars

they are small addons i made a while back

[teal salmon]

I forgot to put , there

nice

[latent ivy]

its unpacked now

[drowsy leaf]

i sold em for like 1€ but theres not much market on selling such cheap stuff and it isnt worth it at all

you are better off making a full car that will get more sales and is easier to support than many of these small mods

[teal salmon]

Yeah, im trying to find some good and expensive mods for content. Do you know any? Apart from yours 😄

[drowsy leaf]

for extra content on vanilla vehicles, you have a lot of good free mods

[latent ivy]

im stuck

[teal salmon]

That maybe soon, but first im trying to find whatever expensive mods

[drowsy leaf]

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=81121685 this guy makes engine tuning mods an some other stuff, some of it has already released, mostly just early access content

[teal salmon]

idk where to exacly look

[latent ivy]

;-;

[drowsy leaf]

but like any reputable modder wont sell expensive mods

[teal salmon]

What cars does he have?

[latent ivy]

its still not sinking or sitting lower in the water

[tired coyote]

Save the file and reload the vehicle

[dense jungle]

and they would come with a forum post

[drowsy leaf]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/segra-ultimat-20-present-paid.92407/
https://lj74.gumroad.com/
https://www.beamng.com/threads/2001-07-civetta-mondello-paid.85810/
https://lucasbeoff.gumroad.com/
these are the car mods i can reccomend, im not aware of any other full car thats paid thats not a scam, might have missed some

[tired coyote]

Ctrl r

[drowsy leaf]

i just said its engine tuning, theres a lot for the 200bx and one for all the classic car engines

[tired coyote]

set nodes debug to weight if youre not sure it has applied

[latent ivy]

still nothing

[thick niche]

paid mods are dumb a/f

[drowsy leaf]

no.

[thick niche]

limits the usage to single player only

[tired coyote]

oh no

[drowsy leaf]

well yea because you are sharing the file with others

[thick niche]

im not

the beamngmp is

[dense jungle]

beam has existed for 11? 12? years now, majority of those years in single player

[tired coyote]

did you actually reload the vehicle or did you just reset it
like did it lag

[dense jungle]

at least thats an original reason to not like paid mods other than "turning a hobby into a job or cash grab" thats parroted

[drowsy leaf]

im not having this discussion again
you put the file in the server
the beammp server hosts the file
when a user connects, they download the file, automatically, since you cant check if they own or not the mod.
by that you are copying and distributing the file, which is piracy.

[thick niche]

lol

[dense jungle]

you can still join a server with that, as long as its password protected and everyone has the mod so

[drowsy leaf]

thought we cleared it up the last 2 times of you complaining

[drowsy leaf]

yes that too, if the server is private and everyone who joins has owership, its fine

[latent ivy]

I reload the vehicle and it still doesnt do anything even after i save

[tired coyote]

The node weight debug doesn't change?

[thick niche]

yeah we did, and i know

[latent ivy]

it breaks

[thick niche]

still dumb a/f

[drowsy leaf]

no its not

[latent ivy]

this is why I wanna vc so i can show you whats goin wrong

[drowsy leaf]

why is it dumb

[thick niche]

i mean the inability to prevent the mods from being taken

[tired coyote]

As in it gets an instability

[latent ivy]

no

it disappears when i try to do the debug

[drowsy leaf]

well either way the mod has to be somewhere on the users computer so even if you cant save the mod, the act of having it or using it without paying is also not allowed

[thick niche]

yawn

[drowsy leaf]

?

[thick niche]

¿

[drowsy leaf]

all my homies hate spanish upside down quesiton and exclamation mark

[latent ivy]

@tired coyote I save it. reload the vehicle with 5000 instead of 5 nodeweight and it does nothing

this is already annoying af

I am using notepad. is that the problem?

[drowsy leaf]

no

[latent ivy]

ok

I think I got it to decend through the air much faster

ok i did something

probably TOO MUCH DRAG

nevermind

im so confused @tired coyote

[cyan drum]

hello

[tired coyote]

Press ctrl n until you get to the weight debug

Check the node weight

If it changed then you've just seen how bad pressure groups interact with water

[tired coyote]

If it didn't then idk

[tired coyote]

Are you editing the correct file

Does it save as jbeam or txt

[latent ivy]

which one

[tired coyote]

Which one do you think you should edit when trying to adjust the jbeam

[tired coyote]

Yes

[latent ivy]

I have been but nothing is happening ;-;

[tired coyote]

Then go into the game

Press and hold down ctrl

And then press R

[drowsy leaf]

no EA stuff

[latent ivy]

I did

no change

[tired coyote]

Try spawning another one

[tired coyote]

Where is the file you're editing

Like the file path

[latent ivy]

is it supposed to be in unpacked

[tired coyote]

Can you read anything I tell you to do?

[drowsy leaf]

......................

[tired coyote]

.

[tired coyote]

No

Remove that folder

The zip you could still have installed in the mods folder

Redownload it

And then use the unpack button in the mods manager UI in the game

[tired coyote]

Yes

[latent ivy]

I just noticed that

[tired coyote]

The mods manager

[latent ivy]

now its showing up in the unpacked

ok I guess thats where it shouldve been

YAY PROGRESS

woohoo

this is why i ask for help because I will litterally be like a kid lost at walmart

ok yeah control and r do refresh it

thats neat

one way to make a sub work is having ballast weight tanks coded to fill with weight....

that will force it to begin to sink downward and those tanks can only get SO FULL irl

so figuring the math out for ALL OF that will take me a long while but it allows me better clarity

[dense jungle]

remember to control it with a logitech controller

[latent ivy]

so YES ITS POSSIBLE to make a very functional submarine in beam ng drive despite a few unrealistic things like the water being inside and out

[latent ivy]

absolutely fricken no

we arent doin THAT

[drowsy leaf]

i dont see how a heavy cube proves anything you said

[latent ivy]

ballast

and at a depth the pressure CRUSHES the cube

two basic principles of physics behind a sub

[drowsy leaf]

water displacement :

[latent ivy]

you want it buoyant enough to rise or fall and if it goes too deep then its gonna cave in. simple

[bronze cloud]

https://www.patreon.com/RedlineAuto?utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan

https://www.patreon.com/SpoolingDieselDesigns?utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan

what do u think about this guys?

[drowsy leaf]

how do you adjust the weight on the fly

[bronze cloud]

Scam?

[dense jungle]

no

nononmono espeically royal renderings

[drowsy leaf]

i dont even know the first guy but probably a scam, royalrenderings is a known grifter

[latent ivy]

there should be TANKS labeled ballast and if you code it to fill the weight up to what the weight would be. itd alter the buoyancy

if the tanks are full it should be full enough to offset the ballance of what forces are making the sub rise

youre basically countering or adding to how gravity pulls things down by making yourself heavier to sink

[drowsy leaf]

fill the weight with what
as far as i know you cant add weight to a jbeam on the fly

[tired coyote]

You can set node weight with lua iirc

[latent ivy]

is it possible to fill up a tanker with weight?

[latent ivy]

yeah. having tanks with nodes that are coded to change weight

this is where it gets weird because it gets into a gray area where theres multiple ways to do this

[drowsy leaf]

also keep in mind that you spent half an hour to change a single value while being baybied by Zeit

[latent ivy]

oh im aware

[thick niche]

next mod : beyblades

[drowsy leaf]

do you seriously think you can make a working submarine

[drowsy leaf]

quite possble

[latent ivy]

already accidentally figured that out with this cube while it sits in water it just goes on its own

[latent ivy]

yes

[drowsy leaf]

god you are delusional

[tired coyote]

This is known as gravity

[drowsy leaf]

"help i accidentally isaac newton'd"

[latent ivy]

if only I knew the depth

the thing is... if you have it cave int it has to release the springloaded pressure somehow. if something is programmed to break then it stops compressing it into a black hole

[dense jungle]

oceangate ahh engineering

[latent ivy]

so if we make a sub it HAS to have a way for something to let the game know "hey I am no longer being crushed the pressure is equalized"

idk why it spins lol

but it does give out since its a cube. if you did that with a simple triangular prism itd take a LOT LONGER to break

ITD TAKE way more pressure

@tired coyote you got any prisms other than a cube?

I got it to where its just BARELY floating

110 WEIGHT

[drowsy leaf]

make it yourself

[latent ivy]

I am

soon

[tired coyote]

No

[latent ivy]

ok if you got the pressure at 120 exactly if you grab the node and toss it at the sea floor it will go to crush depth on its own and even accelerate at some point.

that is way too shallow for that to be happening. accelerating decending isnt a good sign on the hull integrity of any vessel.

for this one because of its weight you cant even put a single thing inside. as soon as its going down theres no way to save that

adjustable buoyancy is something i need to figure out how to do

[tired coyote]

This is a 1x1 cube
It is a cube that cannot break
It is a cube whose beams are set to support 5kg nodes, not 50kg
It is not: realistic

[latent ivy]

LOL THE CUBE SPUN SO FAST IT STRETCHED INTO A DISK

[latent ivy]

there are things that behave like that irl exactly.

[latent ivy]

I wanna know how to make it able to break apart

lol stretched cube

did you know metal can also stretch?

[drowsy leaf]

yes most people know that

[latent ivy]

ok be careful of decimals

the cube noped out

[plush creek]

turns out i've been an idiot this whole time, i had set the lighting quality in graphics settings to lowest (running beamng with integrated graphics)

after i changed it to 'low' it started working

i had been trying to figure this out for 3 whole months 💀

[latent ivy]

welcome to the club

[drowsy leaf]

why are you getting graphics mods
when you are playing on an Igpu on lowest

[plush creek]

hey we're all learning something new everyday

[plush creek]

it's a new laptop and the processor is decent, so i can get between 30 to 50 fps on bigger maps

smaller maps run fine

as for why it was on lowest, the answer was pretty self-explanatory (also i'm pretty dumb sometimes)

[latent ivy]

ok drag co efficient being 1000 makes the water behave like lava

how do you add jbeam to anything

ok it IS possible to make submarines in beam its just a bit tricky because when i spawn under the water beam explodes

I gotta take a break

my eyes hurt

I hope my effort inspires someone more capable than me to make use of any of this

[frank cove]

Fuel in fuel tanks is weight, in theory you could add and remove weight that way. Some cars also have adjustable ballast in the tuning menu

I think its possible to make a sub but it will not operate or function like a submarine in the slightest

It would basically be a boat that floats poorly

[tired coyote]

that is exactly what it would be

and is what all submarine mods are rn

[thick niche]

understand one thing, no one is going to make a mod for you.
Learn these things while you are young and your brain easily takes it in.

[latent ivy]

You need propulsion to keep it from acending or decending. I know how subs work. Military subs have fins toward the nose and the tail end to aim the hull into the water. Its forward momentum and neutral buoyancy create the forced needed to ascend and decend

You cant simply and only rely on pressure inside to keep water out. Emergency blow procedures are a last resort because if you force the water out of the ballast for an emergency ascent.. its uncontrolled and FAST

Using propeller thrust to keep it moving enough that the minimal plus or minus on the buoyancy will mor or less be managed well by the fins/ thrusters. Its more efficient that way

I can show you how a realistic sub works off the top of my head but I wont go as far as what war thunders community does. Lets avoid that here alright.

I watch a lot of mechanical documentary and disasters so... i got an idea of what the sub will behave like if I do make it. Help is appreciated and I am getting a clue as to how code works in jbeam etc

Idk if zeit knows how helpful hes being. On a scale of 1/10. 9.5 to me. :3. Im happy so far and if I do finish the model I will ask how to start bringing it into beam or making it a working mod. As for that idk what im doing. We will cross that bridge when I get to it

[frank cove]

Propulsion in water in BeamNg is SUPER ineffective. I have never seen a non JATO boat able to go above 40mph

[latent ivy]

Well. Water is how much denser than air?

[latent ivy]

Theres a boat and trailer mod that goes that fast

[frank cove]

I also do not think that pointing a sub up and down like you would IRL would be possible in Beam without some bodgery

[latent ivy]

Kinda scary if you go to fast it lifts the bow up and threatens to tumble

[latent ivy]

Drag forces and angle of attack will be a big deal underwater

[frank cove]

Pretty sure that boat has hidden JATO as its meant to be a jet boat not a propeller boat

[latent ivy]

Probably. Idk.

I got a headache

[frank cove]

I would reccomend making a VERY simple boat first to understand how BeamNg deals with aquatic vehicles

Do NOT try to make a submarine as a first mod. You will burn yourself out

[latent ivy]

Ive been through enough burning myself out before. Its gonna be ok. Just remind me to take plenty of breaks

[frank cove]

Your self preservation is on you. I nor any other modder cannot baby sit your every action. Sorry.

[latent ivy]

The joy I feel once things step forward. Even a single step fills me with joy

I will do what I can

[tired coyote]

ehh i was able to get the los angeles class sub up to 50kmh a few updates ago

with just a prop that is

[latent ivy]

Neat.

What sub is that exactly?

[frank cove]

Thats 31mph lol

[tired coyote]

o

darn americans

[frank cove]

Burger units are confusing

[tired coyote]

its completely shot now tho lol
deforms the entire rear

[latent ivy]

Because water is how much more dense?

[thick niche]

watch out euro guys have a knife.

[latent ivy]

Going 5 feels like 20.

[tired coyote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles-class_submarine

[frank cove]

I'm not arguing the physics of it lol

[latent ivy]

And... if you SOMEHOW get to 70 mph on water. Its gonna feel like 400

Just because of how water is lol

[frank cove]

I know how dense water is and how hard it is to go fast on water

[latent ivy]

It gets scary when you go fast on water

[frank cove]

The fastest water craft don't even touch the water hardly at all

[latent ivy]

Up till recently I didnt understand why boats have 4 500 hp engines... but now I do

[latent ivy]

Hydrofoils exist

Also I KNOW FOr a fact that can exist in beam also but... I feel like it could snap the hydrofoil off because I v know for a fact someones gonna try a jato

I may end up with a stambecco submarine mod. I like the stambecco a lot. Id need to figure out how to edit it so it can cave in on itself if its deep under water

Metal spiked rover wheels would be fun

Metal and pavement dont mix and id get it to flip over if I clip the train rails on amy map or find a place the spiked wheel snags on... itd rip the stambecco apart and stop it instantly

[latent ivy]

My sub will be for research and floating around for fun

Anyway. Anyone know what happened to the cirrus vision jet mod?

[tired coyote]

its a bit uhhh

[ocean mauve]

Which one are you talking about? Could only find one that was 'made' by someone that didn't really know what they were doing and was cancelled shortly after

Seems like they just turned the entire mesh into a jbeam

[drowsy leaf]

nr0 be pretty lonely

[tired coyote]

yes the jbeam is ass ngl

[drowsy leaf]

wigeon meshslap would be better

[latent ivy]

How would you make the jbeams?

In your own words

[drowsy leaf]

theres a 5000 word limit on discord. that would not be enough to explain it.

(how to jbeam is not something you can explain)

you have to learn by yourself

[latent ivy]

Seriously?

[drowsy leaf]

yes it something you generally slowly learn by trial and error, by reverse engineering vanilla stuff

[thick niche]

To jbeam is to beam and to beam is to J, so hence fouth (x)beam X J = Beam where beam is J

[drowsy leaf]

and you learn by yourself and only ask speficic questions

[latent ivy]

[drowsy leaf]

like it is explainable

but it would take days to explain it kind of complexity

and since you clearly have issues following instructions its not something that would even be a good idea to explain

[latent ivy]

but I wanna know if you know feel free to go on and on to me. I will remember at least a fair chunk of it

[latent ivy]

Its because im a noob with technology and im tired. Im like at 10% brain power today

[drowsy leaf]

you learn it by yourself
like everybody else did

i dont have the time to explain it so does anyone

if you cant learn anything by yourself, dont mod beamng

[frank cove]

Harsh but true.

There’s decent documentation for Jbeam so I would start there

[barren magnet]

yes

read the documentation

it is there for a reason

people cannot explain every nuance of the very complex nature of beam modding to you

you will have to have some semblance of drive to learn on your own

[olive spire]

Also modding for dummies

Server

@stray python

[long frigate]

hey guys

im just a bit curious but does anyone know or have a mod for the fastest train

[barren magnet]

the modding for dummies requires a lot of self motivation

we cant explain everything from scratch

[dry quarry]

Just dont be surprised when you think youve got a decent jbeam and the whole thing just implodes

[neon magnet]

Mfs complain abt lore friendly paid mods costing as much as a snickers bar when these guys edist

Actual daylight robbery

[bronze cloud]

You understand 80$ monthly fee yes?

Every month you have to part with $80

[drowsy leaf]

that fucking twat again
yeah hes a scammer

[bronze shard]

that does say lifetime, but i know nothing about the guy and would probably agree with lichis assessment just based on the patreon profile lmao

[ember lodge]

any of the lifetimes are scam asf and pull the you have to pay monthly an get the same shit as 20$ members..... lifetime ripoff

[bronze cloud]

So it looks like all the mods on Patreon were invented for scams

Everyone strives to take at least the 10$ from people so that they can enjoy the "quality" mods

[ember lodge]

most of them are gatekeep 90% of what they make constantly baiting people to sub with pictures of WIP BS that doesnt realease to us.

[dawn tiger]

mines not

[bronze cloud]

What do you mean?

[bronze cloud]

It's just like that, they liven you up with a beautiful picture

[dawn tiger]

you said patreon mods are a scams so i said mines not a scam

[bronze cloud]

I haven't come across people there posting mods for free

[dawn tiger]

why would the mod being paid make it a scam

[dawn tiger]

https://discord.com/channels/710082165253079061/1299793684975587338 This is my mod its a paid beta and not a scam.

[bronze cloud]

I don't think every paid mod is a scam, but so far everything I've seen is excessive - some people want 15-20$ for nothing.

[bronze cloud]

I don't know you - first time you respond here to my comment I think

I can check

[dawn tiger]

Yea no mines 4 bucks a month and im actually trying to do something cool and no i haven't replied to u before

Im not just buying 3d models and throwing them in the game like most of those typpa modders

[bronze cloud]

Usually most of the people who build mods and advertise in all these stores are then most of the time not really answering the messages either

[dawn tiger]

yea no i answer all mine lik i spend like 3 hours a day talking to people i try and make sure people are actually happy with my mod

[bronze cloud]

That sounds amazing so you're already way better than all the people I've shared here 😅

[dawn tiger]

Haha yea just showing that not all patreon mods are a scam but any that are charking 20-80 bucks a month definitly lol

[drowsy leaf]

sadly the 99% of paid mods are a scam

[dawn tiger]

Yea i get that it sucks especially when making a paid mod people get so mad that its paid they assume its a scam or just mad that its paid my forum post is full of hate on the fact its a PIAD BETA

[glossy prawn]

I wonder if there are mods for 0.3 or something

Hell, do mods work on the old techdemo?

[dense jungle]

Mods just get a bad reputation from the likes of kenemation and royal renderings all the other scammers, unfortunately their reputations spread to others

But what I don’t agree with though aside from illegally selling real car mods is making them a monthly subscription instead of a 1 time payment

[dawn tiger]

Mines a subscription but I also see it like an I phone you don't get the new version without paying for the new version even if its not much better

[bronze cloud]

But if I want a Kia Sportage, what do we do?

You only have this guy

[glossy prawn]

The beamNG website said that mod approvals take 1-2 business days.. is that true?

[bronze shard]

sometimes, but other times it can take way longer

[glossy prawn]

I hope it doesn't take too long in my case, I just uploaded a map

[drowsy leaf]

you dont

or if you have money to waste, waste it

[ember lodge]

anyone know any good truck exhaust packs ?