mods-discussion

[wild raft]

No

I don’t like this Gen of 911

[zenith cloud]

L

[fallow robin]

992 is amazing

[wild raft]

https://presse.porsche.de/download/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/Download?OpenAgent&attachmentid=136393

Much better imo- if it would embed

[zenith cloud]

997.2 😩

(make after s7 or the motion sensors that guard your house will mysteriously trigger while you are sleeping)

[wild raft]

There are no motion sensors

[vague meteor]

Man, that's horrible

[fallen estuary]

996 solos

[wicked egret]

I know I ask everyone this but will there be a motorsports version of the S7?

an accurate one

[wild raft]

Of course. Every model of the S7 will be included

As accurate as the data that is online allows me to make it at least-

[wicked egret]

thank you, I love Vintage racing

[wild raft]

...Vintage?

[wicked egret]

Well what else can you call it really

[wild raft]

20 years old isn't vintage?

[wicked egret]

classic racing?

[wild raft]

That's also not classic racing

[wicked egret]

yeah cus 25 years

I guess old racing

[wild raft]

yes

[wicked egret]

for the gear setup you could use onboard footage

[wild raft]

You also gotta consider that the S7R ran up until 2010... And won races

[wild raft]

Not a bad idea tbh

[wicked egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=554g74tf9TQ

assume he is shifting right after peak power

and look at what mile per hour he shifts at

I can't find any footage where the right hand isn't covering the right side of the tach though

[wild raft]

you sadly can't see the speedometer

[wicked egret]

You could also use onboard footage to figure out handling characteristics and try and replicate lap times

[wild raft]

It's good ref for the race gauges though, only had images of it off or from The crew before

[ashen flame]

Saleen S7 convertible wen :trol:

[wild raft]

Not

also I guess i'll infer ratios via this

[ashen flame]

would've killed to have that

[unreal chasm]

oh good luck lol

[wild raft]

1st seems to go to ~110km/h

[wicked egret]

single cars are cool but I'd love for more than one car of the same class so you could do proper class racing and not have it be just one car
would make beam for more like an actual racing game

though this game would probably need an option to set up actual AI races first

[unreal chasm]

oh I forgot, you have videos about that, so you can find it I think

[wild raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwXsDQ-AqiU

Or I can just use other games

[fallow robin]

thats not even trackable

wth😭

[unreal chasm]

maybe you have a mod of it in assetto corsa when you can make your test

[wicked egret]

that thing has gotta pull more than 1 g in real life

[fallow robin]

my rs7 literally pulls 1g like that 😭

[wild raft]

Well, duh

[fallow robin]

lol i can bet this land boat would be faster than that on a track

[wild raft]

it certainly looks faster

[fallow robin]

i lapped spa in 2:52

https://streamable.com/lpjj5p with it

im not the best driver tho

[unreal chasm]

the car understeer a lot no ?

[wicked egret]

yes

[jade briar]

Finally someone agrees

[fallow robin]

because its a 2ton land yatch

i replied to the wrong person

[wicked egret]

it says 2 ton in the stats for the car when looking at the config but it weighs a lot less than what it says

oh I thought he was talking about the 992

[fallow robin]

this is my tweaked version lol

my version is accurate

[wicked egret]

it's an Audi they've understeered since they've been doing AWD

[fallow robin]

i redid everything to be accurate to real life

unlike the stock kenemation version

[wicked egret]

nice

because of DR2's damage model do you think the cars from it would be entirely modeled

like underneath the panels and stuff

the car I'd like the most in this game as a mod would be the Audi Sport Quattro

as it is my dream car

[scenic mantle]

yo one of my mods were working fine but now spawning without a couple parts what could be causing this ?
like the hood and trunk missing

[hollow citrus]

Any 4 door etk mods lol

[neon magnet]

Well the 800 is about to get a sedan bodystyle

Besides that theres waboll's W series

[hollow citrus]

Does anyone here know how the site "boosty.to" works? It's telling me to pay for post access but i got no idea if it'll give me the download or not

[clear tree]

Are there any good mods for any bmws?

[wraith inlet]

mfw

[hollow citrus]

hot

[wraith inlet]

at this point I don't know if it's a joke or not

[hollow citrus]

im saying it looks good

[wraith inlet]

it's not mine

and yeah it looks good for blender

not for beam

[hollow citrus]

whyd u send it here then if its not for beamng 😟

[wraith inlet]

you didn't understand

[hollow citrus]

*understand

and yeah I didn't

[wraith inlet]

oh

I'm saying that the model is way to high poly for beam (it's the porsche of twixer)

[hollow citrus]

oh

[wraith inlet]

bruh

[hollow citrus]

so tempted to buy kenemation's urus for $14 lol

[wraith inlet]

just don't

[fallow robin]

no

[hollow citrus]

if i had a job i would

[fallow robin]

dont ur better off spending ur money else where

[hollow citrus]

but i play beamng like everyday

and i like the urus, if you name me a urus mod better ill get that then

[wraith inlet]

but why would you buy for an almost 1 day meshslap?

[hollow citrus]

have you used it?

[wraith inlet]

no, but all kenemation mods are basically the same

[fallow robin]

even if its most propably an innacurate meshlap

[hollow citrus]

until i get proof from a owner that the mod sucks ill leave it up to me to find out

[wraith inlet]

he didn't even applied auto smooth to a $7 mod

[hollow citrus]

how old is it

[wraith inlet]

where did he uploaded the urus?

[hollow citrus]

boosty.to

[wraith inlet]

bruh

[hollow citrus]

did u buyu it

[wraith inlet]

no

[hollow citrus]

i was about to say

[wraith inlet]

it's from a video

[hollow citrus]

well they arent TERRIBLE

[wraith inlet]

they are

[hollow citrus]

also boosty.to sucks wont accept my paypal

[wraith inlet]

like for $12

it's trash

[silent mason]

why do u have twixers 911 922?

im just confused

[wraith inlet]

I dowloand it just to see the model

and it's trash

[silent mason]

y's that

[wild raft]

Don’t buy irl mods for 14$, they’re all a scam

…or patreon access for 20/25$/month

[fast kernel]

Is there any good paid real car mod? Haven’t seen any.

[copper pine]

nothing

[mighty basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqf7mmASA3Q

[fallow robin]

if this video doesnt stop you from buying kenemation mods idk what will

[fallen estuary]

or just a modern i series

[wild raft]

No

[fast kernel]

Not even surprised actually.

[wild raft]

I don’t know about Iamthelaw‘s mods, they certainly have high quality gauges and some effort put into model and Jbeam

[fast kernel]

Can’t wait for RS mods to be finished.

[wild raft]

What?

[fast kernel]

Audi RS6/7.

[fallow robin]

although expensive he does make some of the lost high quality real life mods

[wild raft]

Yeah

[candid ice]

I see he has free Cadillac ct-s and Audi RS-5 B9 on his gumroad, are they any good?

[timber heron]

https://streamable.com/mk0pms any opinions?

(soz for the soft limiter, audi things)

[fallow robin]

rs5 is good

had it before

[fast kernel]

Sounds cool.

But that soft limiter is such a stupid thing.

[nimble valley]

Soft limiter lol but nice

Car looks and sounds good. How does it drive?

[azure horizon]

anyone know how to add mod parts to a mod

[silent mason]

I’m so excited for subie’s cheerier flasher mods patient

[hollow citrus]

suffer

[acoustic ice]

it's realistic

[fast kernel]

It is, I’ve seen the same thing on RWD R8, but I just don’t understand the meaning of it.

[acoustic ice]

yeah fr

[timber heron]

tried making it as accurate as i can, uses an 8-spd auto with a torque converter instead of a dct, was also going to add nodeweight to make it heavier as it weighs way less than it is irl but i gave up as idrk how to tune suspension in jbeam files

basically most of the changes ive done is to the engine and trans

[fallow robin]

emissions regulations i think

[charred sparrow]

So that when the car is redlining for any reason instead of going bap bap bap bap every .2 seconds it just goes brrrr as a flat sound when it hits it

[latent ivy]

etk 900 rally car. thoughts?

just like rally parts. such as suspension or shocks and wheels. it does not have to be a whole config

like this

[ashen flame]

has been a config for a few weeks lmao

[latent ivy]

lets gooooooooo

[ashen flame]

nothing new, its about as old as the first proper configs

[latent ivy]

i have a rally config for every car in the game lol

what type of rally config? a asphalt, dirt, or both?

[mighty basin]

Rally config of a luxury car

[ashen flame]

Amateur

doesnt make sense to make proper rally configs for the thing, if you want a good rally car that doesnt weigh 1700kg, drive the vivace

believe it or not, the whole bulk of the weight itself is drivetrain iirc and some other pieces

[latent ivy]

does it meet regulations for a amateur rally car or is it free of it?

[ashen flame]

iirc it doesnt match with real world regulations because of weight but idk, plus with the fact literally nobody rallies luxury cars. They weigh too much for any kind of proper motorsport

same reason why no one rallies modern day Rolls Royces or S-Classes

[mighty basin]

nice repost

[ashen flame]

what does spamming images of a 911 get you anywhere?

[fallow robin]

first version of the rs7 sound https://streamable.com/71hi8c

[wild raft]

It seems to have some unclean gain somewhere in the range

[fallow robin]

yeah that was the first iteration

just remembered it

[ashen flame]

do you intend on communicating with me via text?

[fallow robin]

this is the newer version but interior

i need to clean up limiter sound still

[ashen flame]

that's for some Gumball 500 thing, not proper-ish rally

you don't see Phantoms or whatever in WRC

[latent ivy]

i never said wrc

[ashen flame]

i mean yeah there was one in the paris dakar thing

but thats from the 80s

[latent ivy]

are you the only person working on the etk 900?

[ashen flame]

read the first page of the forum thread

https://www.beamng.com/threads/etk900.88872/

[latent ivy]

v12???

this is going to become the ultimate sleeper car

[fallow robin]

@wild raft

[ashen flame]

you do realise its a luxury car? its gonna be bound to have a v12

[latent ivy]

can i put de funny turbo charger

[ashen flame]

lad have you read one word int he description of the mod?

[fallow robin]

children

i swear

[ashen flame]

oh nvm the thread doesnt mention turbo, but its a 2010s car

it's not an 90s Japanese car with crappy engines

...or one with an exorbitantly high price tag for a relatively low-end brand

[fallow robin]

unpopular opinion the stututu sound is annoying

[ashen flame]

how old are you?

[fallow robin]

i hate hearing it over long periods of time

thats why i hate forza turbos

[ashen flame]

stututu worse than hearing the local M135i

[fallow robin]

spooling at 800rpm 🤡

[ashen flame]

or matter of fact, have you ever seen the engine of a modern day car?

[fallow robin]

actually

i prefer the boosh sound

like in a pagani

no dumb loud stututu

[latent ivy]

it does sound better yeah

[fallow robin]

or in any modern day twin turbo car

true

yeah i agree its a good thing

thats why i said true

i prefer that sound over the conventional jdm thing

[ashen flame]

100k Nissan

[fallow robin]

also the new nissan z is incredibly ugly

i actually hate the way it looks

ill take an mk5 over it always

or an m340

[ashen flame]

the z isnt that bad imo

[fallow robin]

i hate it

the 350 looks better to me

[hollow citrus]

this is better than nissan z design

[nimble valley]

yea better post here @fallow robin

[nimble valley]

nice

@fallow robin

The car itself weighs 2,998 pounds (1,360 kg).

[fallow robin]

could get touched up a bit

[nimble valley]

lmfao 1695 nm of torque

ok dyno seems good

the engine is a 6.7 liter hehe

[nimble valley]

ok 1360 kg

supposed to be

[fallow robin]

yup nascar engine too

[nimble valley]

did you increase volume in audacity and not go over red limit in decibels?

can i hear hood view and interior ?

[fallow robin]

not done yet

[nimble valley]

ok

also top speed

need to check the drag scale coef

[fallow robin]

its alot to do lol

[nimble valley]

just open all and ctrl+a in audacity and amplify together and multiple export

in audacity

it takes a minute to increase volume

but you must find the loudest one and find out how high you can go with that one then increase all other ones the same

make loudest go to red limit

see what that is and do same to all the others in one click

forza says top speed is 255 mph or 410 kmh

i wonder if they are just making it up

[fallow robin]

how do i amplify together?

and multiple export

[nimble valley]

select all and go to amplify

ctrl+a

effect-amplify

select a number that makes loudest sample go to red limit decibels

file-export-export multiple

then folder should be same folder they came from

then just go back in game lol

it should be louder

as loud as you can go without damaging hearing

always backup first dude

or lower amplify if you want

going back and forth should not corrupt the sound files

lol i cant wait to hear this now lmfao

[tawdry shoal]

Imagine playing on geforcenow so you can't use any other mods besides repo mods :/

[nimble valley]

you also need to mess with engine and flywheel inertia

to make sound smoother if need be

[tawdry shoal]

LOL

[nimble valley]

or maybe its already good but check

[nimble valley]

lol it would go against beamng philosophy of open everything

only some sound files are locked

and ofcourse the game engines source code obviously

[hollow citrus]

youll survive

[tawdry shoal]

@hollow citrus I CANT GET THE CROWN VICTORIA YOU DONT KNOW MY PAIN

[hollow citrus]

if you're going crazy over a crown vic you're a lost cause 💀

[tawdry shoal]

:/

[nimble valley]

https://streamable.com/rjvg06

[tawdry shoal]

I own one

[nimble valley]

i edited tire friction

0.81 g lateral acceleration

[tawdry shoal]

doesnt mean anything i cant download it, cloud gaming doesnt allow it, and if it did it would still be useless to reinstall the mod every time

[nimble valley]

i been trying to match it to real life

[tawdry shoal]

AW

[nimble valley]

aw?

[tawdry shoal]

thats cool, sad i cant eperience it

[nimble valley]

cloud gaming?

[hollow citrus]

my school blocked geforcenow so i cant get games anymore

[tawdry shoal]

Simple, buy a personal computer and break your school computer on purpose

[nimble valley]

https://www.beamng.com/attachments/fordcrownvictoria-zip.981481/

press and you shall receive

[tawdry shoal]

I cant download it

it wont matter

[nimble valley]

what?

[tawdry shoal]

I use geforcenow that is a cloud gaming service

[nimble valley]

download this zip dont be silly now

and place it on your repo folder

[tawdry shoal]

it basically simulates an rtx 3080 good pc on a crappy laptop

I DONT HAVE BEAMNG INSTALLED ON THIS COMPUTER

[hollow citrus]

not worth it

[nimble valley]

why not?

[tawdry shoal]

The computer im on cant run beamng, trust me i tried an i7 and a GTX isnt enough

[nimble valley]

@fallow robin let me know if you have issues

work harder and save up for a better one beamng is worth it trust me

[tawdry shoal]

I use a browser cloud gaming service to play beamng that basically acts like a good pc

[hollow citrus]

a gtx is definitely enough, which card

[tawdry shoal]

and it runs the game great

[nimble valley]

save up for a better pc please

[tawdry shoal]

GTX 1660

[nimble valley]

and also get a wheel and shifter and 3 pedals you will not regret it

[tawdry shoal]

I already have that LOL

[nimble valley]

work harder and save up for it

[hollow citrus]

cpu be holding that mf back

[tawdry shoal]

I have a wheel and shifters for my series x

(xbox)

I wish beamng was on that, but even then idk if the xbox would run it. I hate that beamng isnt a game that supports xbox, because there are already controls mapped (mostly) for controller

[nimble valley]

its never coming to console

[hollow citrus]

ultimately beamng would be horrible for console

[tawdry shoal]

Yep

[nimble valley]

this wont be seen on anything other than windows based systems

[tawdry shoal]

exactly my point

[hollow citrus]

steamdeck noob

[nimble valley]

lol imagine beamng with only gamepad controls and no mods

[hollow citrus]

imagine not playing at all lol thats why i enjoy what i can get

[tawdry shoal]

yeah

[nimble valley]

low iq crashing into eternity

yea true ok sry

i wish you get a better pc man

[hollow citrus]

fr google

I remember the time i couldnt run csgo

[nimble valley]

nossta why dont you get better pc

[hollow citrus]

what are u talking about

[nimble valley]

beamng is worth it

[hollow citrus]

when did i say anything about not having beamng or a pc lol

[fallen estuary]

i remember my old laptop got 30 fps on google chrome

[tawdry shoal]

this is my pc

https://www.newegg.com/p/2WC-000N-03SG3?Description=GTX 1660 laptop&cm_re=GTX_1660 laptop-_-9SIAEYJE5G9618-_-Product

[nimble valley]

oh i thought you said you cant play

[hollow citrus]

no bruh

[nimble valley]

oh you were giving example is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[hollow citrus]

u dont need anything above 30fps for chrome

all ur doing is clicking things

[nimble valley]

you are sure you never went above redline in decibels in audacity?

loudest sample went to top and all others were raised in same amount?

[tawdry shoal]

also its come to my attention that there is another browser in this server.

[fallow robin]

it was already pretty close to redline and yeah everything was raised same

[tawdry shoal]

EDGE

its war 😠

[fallow robin]

i think its a beam limitation

[nimble valley]

ok good yea its a bit louder its better redkni

this is goood!

yea maybe it is

surely not audacity

audacity is goat lol

[fallow robin]

beam probably has a sound cap

[hollow citrus]

audacity is amazing

[unreal chasm]

edge is like firefox or chrome, edge can use google

[tawdry shoal]

which is why i hate it

I JUST DONT LIKE IT

[hollow citrus]

ironic...

[fallen estuary]

but i got 30 fps on CHROME

[tawdry shoal]

YOU SAW NOTHIGN'

[nimble valley]

if beam has a sound cap thats annoying

[hollow citrus]

chrome sucks

[nimble valley]

im not sure it sounds better now

let me listen to old video

[tawdry shoal]

@hollow citrus your dead to me

[fallen estuary]

i got 2 fps on valorant

the menu

[tawdry shoal]

:_

[fallow robin]

yeah thats what im thinking because its probably sound capped by beam

[hollow citrus]

no damn way

[fallen estuary]

it was bad

[nimble valley]

this is your old one it sound good

sounds clearer and better

yea maybe beam has sound cap making sound terrible if you go above it

[fallow robin]

yeah i forgot to change eq setting holdon

[nimble valley]

oh lol ok

[fallow robin]

here

[nimble valley]

ai torror said its perfectly possible to simulate cars like this

all the way up to GT4/GT3 cars he said

in terms of rigidy

GT3 cars its a maybe

[nimble valley]

now accelerate and drive too

is this all after volume increase?

[fallow robin]

yes

[nimble valley]

i mean its louder

is it better to you?

how does it sound on a speaker system lmfao

i dont dare try it

[fallow robin]

im using my headphones

[nimble valley]

yea ok can you accelerate and drive fast?

[fallow robin]

on 30 volume

[nimble valley]

with hood view on

and record

[nimble valley]

i mean how can it get better

[nimble valley]

physics edits ofc

hahaha its nuts

good work on finding those fire sounds

maybe you can increase the volume on those too?

make them sound even snappier

[fallow robin]

limiter is at redline in audacity

[nimble valley]

ok good hehe

[fallow robin]

i like how it blends in with beamng afterfire too

and since its in the engine blend it gets mixed too and doesnt sound out of place

[nimble valley]

nice

the real car

hoonicorn v2 revving by ken block

@fallow robin

here is the 1400 hp real thing spitting flames

ofcourse more bass damn

i think make the engine inertia heavier on yours might make it sound even better

6.7 liter v8 lol

[fallow robin]

maybe ill try it

https://streamable.com/hl1ra3

[nimble valley]

can you pick up speed and record again

onload sound

[nimble valley]

i dont know how to improve it more except maybe eq

or different rev exporting with more or fewer samples

[fallow robin]

it already uses about 30 samples

for detail

but its using same on and offload sounds

[wicked egret]

any irl rally car mods?

[latent ivy]

does anyone have a map that has long roads that arent to wavy but not to straight and they are also in the woods?

[kindred hollow]

Ive been searching for a destructible street light for so long i cant find one even tho theres videos on some

[lapis sail]

East Coast USA. Anything that's in the woods would be built around the trees

[regal quail]

It comes with the game, dosent it?

I swear ive used one

[midnight wren]

Hey @wild raft , I don't know if anyone's messaged you about it yet, but the Heavy Downforce Aeroskirt on the Twin Mill Hopper just falls off whenever I try to use it on the car.

[wild raft]

That’s odd, will have a look at it

[fallow robin]

https://streamable.com/xfj3wo huracan sound im working on

please compare and let me know your thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYFTJV7KqnM

[nimble valley]

Did you edit something since last time?

[fallow robin]

completely new sound

not the same as last time

decided to redo it

[nimble valley]

How?

I mean the hooni

[fallow robin]

ohhh

[nimble valley]

not huracan

[fallow robin]

no same sound

[nimble valley]

It sounds like you increased engine inertia or flywheel

[fallow robin]

i just added decel sounds

[nimble valley]

aaaa

Ok makes sense

Diesel sounds?? Jk

[fallow robin]

never attempted diesel before

[fast kernel]

You can try OM606.

Basically diesel 2JZ.

[nimble valley]

Please try V8 diesel like a Ford or similar.

although beamng v8 diesel sounds are good.

[nimble valley]

I think it needs higher engine brake torque value like +10

Needs more violent engine braking.

Inertia seems alright i guess.

[midnight light]

anyone starting making a mod for the lamborghini revuelto

[mighty basin]

mod for a car that just came out? don't think so

[distant cipher]

Bruv 💀

[nimble valley]

Simulators are nice arent they haha

[unreal chasm]

you can start it if you want

[clear tree]

Where they at?

[mighty basin]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/audi-rs6-rs7-c8-4k-2020.90753/

[fast kernel]

Jeez, can’t wait for its release.

[hollow citrus]

that audi looks awesome

[humble kindle]

This is gonna be nice

[hollow citrus]

make it like $5 and they would be millionaires

because ik i would buy it at that price asap

[nimble valley]

Lol

[hollow citrus]

buy the auditt by insanemods

[nimble valley]

Bet the people who helped him on this car will be pretty annoyed if he sells it not to mention companies who made the 3d and the sounds.

And beamng will get a cut if he used their assets? No?

[olive kayak]

anybody have an good bmw mod from their website

[hollow citrus]

Well if he were to officially sale it ig so, but I don't think paid cars give a cut to beamng or any creators of assets they've used

[nimble valley]

they should since they are using beamng assets to gain a profit for themselves

and thats the problem you see

that is illegal

not to mention immoral and goes against what the sim is about

[zenith cloud]

No its not because they allow it

[nimble valley]

ea allowed it?

turn 10 allowed it?

[ocean mauve]

Beam sort of allows it

[nimble valley]

lucasbe is scratch making his work so i guess that is different since an actual work effort goes into it but still goes against what beam is about but then again he is using beamng sounds

[ocean mauve]

But when actual devs talked about paid mods in the past, they did indeed talk about a 70/30 split (70% of the money goes to the creator, 30% to beam)

Lemme see if I can find that thread

[nimble valley]

omg lol

30%? so they did say they want a cut

show me please

[ocean mauve]

If they were to ever directly allow paid mods, yes

[nimble valley]

so they didnt even directly allow paid mods

[ocean mauve]

This basically ^ AFAIK they have never taken action against paid mods, and they allow you to post them on the forums with a link to patreon or whatever. But I'm not sure if it's officially allowed no

[nimble valley]

show me this 30% quote but still ofc they want a cut

lol taking their assets and then leaving them empty handed even if they made the game in which the mod is being sold

[ocean mauve]

https://www.beamng.com/threads/modders-we-need-to-talk.21455/

Paid mods - We think you deserve a reward of your work. We would favor a 70%/30% model where the mod author would earn 70% of the income for the items. Whats your standpoint about this?
(with some more discussion in replies)

[nimble valley]

holy this is a new thread?

[ashen flame]

i think beam sounds are allowed to use iirc as long as you're using it for BeamNG

[ocean mauve]

no, very old, 2016

[ashen flame]

plus theyre encrypted iirc (password-locked zip file)

[ashen flame]

as much as i didn't want to reply to you directly, the amount of beam assets (models) in that are probably so minuscule that it's likely not worth it

[nimble valley]

im trying to see if this is legal or not since im sick of this whole paid mods debate

immoral imo thats for sure

[ashen flame]

didnt know altitude was that expensive tho

[nimble valley]

but seeing that they want 30% i get it

[ashen flame]

car jump arena's probably more expensive now lol

[nimble valley]

if 30% goes to beam then i am for it but still what about ea and turn 10 and game companies assets?

[fallow robin]

i feel paid mods are only good when they are scratch made

with effort

[ocean mauve]

On the one hand 70/30 seems fair and if it means paid mods could be hosted directly on the forums/repo that would be great
But on the other hand, seeing as paid mods already get a lot of hate, I'm not sure if it would be a very good choice for beam to officially do stuff with them and support them

[ashen flame]

EA/T10 make even more money off their games than the models themselves

[fallow robin]

and majority of paid mods aren't licensed

[ashen flame]

idk about ea, but turn 10's assets are very likely outsourced to a degree

[nimble valley]

it isnt about that its about what is legal or illegal

when you talk about making profits we will get down to the details of it

[fallow robin]

most paid mods are illegal lol

[nimble valley]

mhm

[fallow robin]

if we are talking about the technicality

[ashen flame]

forza models aren't even rightfully theirs anyway regardless

[ocean mauve]

When it comes to real cars, yes. But that is already being checked for repo mods anyway so shouldn't be an issue if paid mods were to be included with that

[nimble valley]

they laser scanned many of their cars using a whole team of professionals

[ashen flame]

no i mean the people porting them for beamng assets

[fallow robin]

you have to pay for brand name if youre model is scratch made

[ashen flame]

then theres paid models that are real world cars, but i think thats a different category

[fallow robin]

if the model is ripped thats a whole other problem

[fallow robin]

yeah but alot of paid models are licensed

[ashen flame]

that^

theyre all unlicensed in beamng, probably because NOBODY wants to pay Audi in royalties just to have one car in the game legally

even if the model is scratch made

[nimble valley]

yea but they have to

if they want to go forwards with it

[fallow robin]

i have an idea😂

[ashen flame]

likely comes down to if its for a hobby or commercially idk

[nimble valley]

still no because you want to earn money

companies exist to make money

[ashen flame]

that license is not easy to get i think

[fallow robin]

imagine reporting trashy paid mods to car brands so that the modders end up getting sent cease and desists

[nimble valley]

you are losing them profits

[ashen flame]

Ferrari would love that.

[fallow robin]

imma start doing that to trashy modderrs like kenemation

[ocean mauve]

I mean even if beam were to officially support paid mods and check licenses, people could still just host them outside of beam via patreon or gumroad or whatever 🤷

[strange night]

does anyone know if my pessima bodykit is working properly?

i just saw a yt vid were parts are missing

[ocean mauve]

worked fine last time i used it

[nimble valley]

yea i see alot of threats of sending mail to car companies about the mods being sold

and rightfully so imo

sending mail to t10, ea etc

[strange night]

ok, thx

[fallow robin]

gets the trash off the street

[lyric cedar]

Gave +1 Reputation to @ocean mauve

[nimble valley]

letting them know someone is turning a profit off of their work without returning it to them

and companies entire purpose exist to turn a profit so how happy you think they will be.

[ashen flame]

imho i doubt turn10 or ea really care about if some indie modder's making money off a model of theirs

[ocean mauve]

To be fair thanks to the internet its kinda hard to take legal action againt modders that use illegal models

[ocean mauve]

And this too

[ashen flame]

other communities do it too, its nothing new.

[nimble valley]

yea but ok so we are to buy mods from such scumbag who care not for any rules or regulations?

[ashen flame]

buy a lucasbe mod or another scratch made mod

[nimble valley]

no its crap imo

[ocean mauve]

But you didnt like lore friendly cars in general right

[ashen flame]

idk, those, unlike forza/t10 models being repurposed as beamng mods don't have legal borderlines in terms of "yeah, this digital car is using Audi badges, and is being sold for a profit" from the car companies themselves

[nimble valley]

lol so you are just admitting you would run your business like this

who would want to do business with you lol

[ashen flame]

i don't have a business. there's the difference

[nimble valley]

nice deflection

[ashen flame]

if i did, i wouldn't sell forza assets on my portfolio

because, they're not mine.

[nimble valley]

why doesnt lucasbe apply for a job at beamng ?

[silent dune]

long story short he cant because of previous actions

[ashen flame]

maybe real brand cars as "for fun" things, but selling em would be a issue, because i don't want to pay Audi any money (I Can't afford their royalties)

[nimble valley]

what actions were that?

[silent dune]

not my business so im not going to go into them

[fallow robin]

beamng lore

[nimble valley]

if someone is really hard on money and is starving i can see why you would want to help them out but if they are healthy why not get a real world job at that point?

if sick i could understand it

but then let people know

[ashen flame]

digital art commissions:

those also make money too

[nimble valley]

yea well i just want it to be moral and right

and legal

and adding useful things not causing havok

[ashen flame]

i think there's a bunch of digital art jobs that are self-employed and require less schedule than actual businesses

[nimble valley]

so why you are not doing that

[ocean mauve]

Because it still take time and effort, and I personally think it is worth it (Ofc this isnt the same for everyone)

[nimble valley]

i dunno man too vague information

[ashen flame]

maybe because i can't?

[nimble valley]

alright

[ashen flame]

also i dont even sell anything rn lol

[nimble valley]

the personal issues of everyone on this discord isnt my or other peoples personal issues

but they want to try make it so when talking about these paid mods

[ashen flame]

because you asked me "so why are you not doing that"

[nimble valley]

if someone is talented at for example making beamng look and behave and sound more realistic then they should get a job at beamng

at which point they would be earning a salary

[ocean mauve]

Or they could make mods, and make money that way?

Its up to them really

[nimble valley]

then i think personally donations was and always will be the solution

[ocean mauve]

Thats fair

[nimble valley]

i am not here to judge anyone or how their situation is

[ocean mauve]

I like how inno did it for the vertex

[nimble valley]

but donations always have worked why suddenly changed?

[ashen flame]

making paid mods/digital art is probably easier than working a real world job

[nimble valley]

lets say you make a dev quality car and have donations button then im sure someone will donate well

but when i say dev car i mean realistic

sounding driving and looking and the whole package

but if its that good the dev team will ask you to join them

[zenith cloud]

Nowhere near as much

[ocean mauve]

I mean if selling the car makes you more money than just keeping it free and accepting donations, why wouldn't you sell it 🤷

[nimble valley]

donations

it tells the modder if he is doing a good job or if he is worthy of dev role

a full time position at the company

or part time whatever

[ashen flame]

not all modders are in it for the job

[ocean mauve]

Yes it means less people can enjoy the mod, but if you put that much time and effort into something, I can understand why people would want to make more money with it

[nimble valley]

exactly because to many its a hobby and done out of enjoyment to make realistic cars and share it with others who will then share back to you something else its all just a hobby. This is how it was forever until you paid mod people came along.

[ashen flame]

thats still a hobby, no?

[nimble valley]

you dont get it we understood that money would taint it

we had our real world lifes and we didnt let the hobby mix in with that

thats what made it great

[ashen flame]

https://racesimstudio.com/shop

example, but different game and such

[zenith cloud]

Rss w

[nimble valley]

ok if a modder records his own sounds, does his own 3d modeling and does all and every engineering calculations then at that point he is his own company lol

[ocean mauve]

Theres definitely people making some money on the side with their hobbies lol, thats nothing new, and definitely not just a gaming thing

[nimble valley]

and buys all his own software also

but still he needs a simulation to use it on

[nimble valley]

yes its called donations and pocket money to buy a coffee

[ashen flame]

people might want to make his mod paid because well, what if the software (Adobe as an example) happen to be really expensive, the living crisis? or some other thing

[nimble valley]

nikola tesla was ripped off by paid modders

"paid modders" lol

he did all the modding as a hobby

[ocean mauve]

No, I mean there are people who for example make art as a hobby, and sell it to make some money on the side. How would that be any different from this?

[ashen flame]

also i'd like to remind you, no one is forcing you to pay for a mod

[nimble valley]

but it seems like you are forcing this paid modding into the beamng community

[ashen flame]

me?

[nimble valley]

some are

[ashen flame]

no one forced paid mods, no one forced you to buy any either

[nimble valley]

has lucas shared 30% with beamng?

how much has he made now?

[ashen flame]

im not lucas how am i meant to know

[nimble valley]

why is this hidden

why arent we told that he did or did not share 30% with beamng

[ashen flame]

1: I'm not Lucas
2: Ask Lucas directly then
3: Maybe because his mods use very little beamng assets?

[nimble valley]

still using the sounds and is existing within the sim

using their platform

[fallow robin]

but its open to be used

thats the difference

[nimble valley]

but why did we pay for beam then

[ashen flame]

i mean he cant exactly buy that specific real car and record the sounds or hire a sound studio

[nimble valley]

you got a point there it is open to be used

[zenith cloud]

To play the game!?

[ashen flame]

unlike propreitary Forza sounds where you're stealing em

[fallow robin]

you pay for a sim you get the rights to play and use assets for modding

its that simple

[nimble valley]

will be interesting to see if the rs7 will be paid

[fallow robin]

all these tools are sounds are openly provided by beam because they encourage the modding community

[nimble valley]

we will see how it evolves i am really curious

[fallow robin]

they said its free im pretty sure

[nimble valley]

well ok

[fallow robin]

cant remember

[nimble valley]

because i just dont see it work

in ac maybe yea but ac is different

[fallow robin]

see what work?

[nimble valley]

paid mods

paywall paid mods

should be a hobby with donations and if they are good enough as modders then join the dev team

[fallow robin]

i truthfully dont care about paid mods aslong as they aren't garbage

[nimble valley]

help make the sim even better

[fallow robin]

ive only ever paid for drowsysams patreon

his work is good this dyno is amazing

[nimble valley]

if its adding something useful and doesnt use other companies assets

useful is key word here

cherrier picnic? useful? tell me how

may sound rude but im just trying to see.

its supposed to be a similar to peugeot ?

[ashen flame]

it doesnt use Peugeot CAD assets

assuming we're still talking about assets

[nimble valley]

it may seem useful to kids who buy it and dont know any better and just use it to crash it?

or what am i not getting here?

[ashen flame]

people also buy it to drive it too

[nimble valley]

yes and thats why i asked what is it supposed to be and the answer i got was "it isnt suppoosed to be anything"

i always get that answer

[fallow robin]

see paid mods are a really tough call because if its just a flat fee patreon where you pay like 5 dollars to get all the cars i understand

[ashen flame]

as in its not meant to be based off one specific car

[fallow robin]

thats basically just supporting the modder

and thats fine

but im not paying 15 bucks individually for each car thats madness

[ashen flame]

monthly

[nimble valley]

see that rise with time

[fallow robin]

yeah a flat monthly fee

[nimble valley]

soon it will be 20 if everyone pays 15

[fallow robin]

thats what i mean

[nimble valley]

im not againsst people not being paid for their work or wanting everything for free i get how this world works otherwise i would enjoy simulations

i like how the world works thats why im a sim fan

tire friction, aerodynamics

horsepower blah blah

[fallow robin]

lucas doesn't charge for each car individually if im not wrong

[nimble valley]

lucas is a talented 3d modder so why did he not get accepted to dev team

maybe no positions available

or actions he said what actions were that

[fallow robin]

theres alot of factors cant just hire people willy nilly

[nimble valley]

and if it was bad actions why should we buy the scout

[nimble valley]

would not enjoy i meant

[fallow robin]

the reason i want to charge a monthly flat fee for my sound mods is to be able to use that money to buy professional recorded sound

basically in return i can make infinitely better sounds

because it's expensive

[nimble valley]

then you need to learn sound synth or rent cars and or buy equipment to record them

[ashen flame]

expensive

[fallow robin]

but where would i get the money to do that?

[nimble valley]

yea true but first prove yourself with free or donations mods i guess

[ashen flame]

especially rending cars and buying sound equipment

[nimble valley]

dont jump straight to a paywall that just makes people get defensive

[fallow robin]

of course not

[nimble valley]

in fact never jump straight to a paywall get on a payroll at a company or start your own companyu

[fallow robin]

im probably gonna do commission's first

[nimble valley]

if someone is really talented he either starts own company or proves himself first then gets acceptance from community and then can start charging if community first agrees

[fallow robin]

thats what alot of assetto modders do

[ashen flame]

tbh i wouldn't make my freemium mods paid, but i'd make an exclusively paid one if i did

[fallow robin]

commissions

[nimble valley]

i want people to get paid for their work im not a maniac

i wouldnt be enjoying beamng if beamng was doing it all for free

the sim probably would be crap or wouldnt exist

they have the talent to engineer and 3d thats what i mean

and they got acceptance from community then started a company

not other way around or whatever

make a paywall and shock people into buying

[nimble valley]

isnt that just donations?

i dont get why they are so against donations

lucas said donations dont work

[fallow robin]

no commissions is you get paid for a personalized project

like if someone wants w custom rb26 sound

[nimble valley]

i see

[fallow robin]

they pay me to do it for them

[nimble valley]

this is the risk with trying to make it in modding you must prove yourself first

lucasbe did a very good job but not good enough

am i cruel for saying that?

maybe the scout will impress the beam team

and he will get a job

but he insists on putting paywall first

all on his own

[fallow robin]

i mean he does make dev quality mods

[nimble valley]

yea so why isnt he beam dev

[fallow robin]

maybe he doesn't want to be a beam dev and likes being an independent modder

everyone has different motives

[nimble valley]

i will tell you this

if cherrier picnic was free i would not download it

scout im not sure about i need see gameplay video but still its just a van

same with signia and claria

if they were free i would not dl

[vapid hollow]

whats the point of all of this? 💀

[nimble valley]

wdym

[ocean mauve]

bean ng

[nimble valley]

money ruins any hobby imo

money and profit seeking

not saying money and profit seeking are wrong but when mixed with your hobby will ruin it imo

[finite rose]

is there a mod that can permit a performance gain

[candid glen]

not it does not, its an incentive to keep doing high quality stuff

you dont want to do your job 100% if you dont get paid for it, right?

although, yes. there is a line where one should consider getting payed for something and when doing something for free

[fallow robin]

i only agree to charging money for mods if everything is scratch made and high quality 🤷‍♂️

[candid glen]

exactly.

[fallow robin]

otherwise it doesn't deserve to be paid for

[candid glen]

i wouldnt want to spend a year doing something im really passionate about and not seek any way of actually getting something back in return

[nimble valley]

and you are doing it through your own company.

or on the payroll of a company

[candid glen]

well, it doesnt even have to be a company tbf

[nimble valley]

marriage?

[candid glen]

but eitherway, why would it matter?

[nimble valley]

define company

i mean define what you mean

[candid glen]

you can release something and get donations or whatever without having a company

[nimble valley]

in the real world for you to get paid you have produce something useful or its a scam

there is no sugar coating it sry

[ocean mauve]

and entertainment is not useful?

[fallow robin]

i mean useful can mean alot of things to different people

[ocean mauve]

👆

[candid glen]

define scam? so is a passionate mod project a scam in that sense?

it is very subjective

[nimble valley]

i mean would you liken cherrier picnic to a cigarette or beer?

both are entertaining to some not me actually

[fallow robin]

there are people that only like lore cars in beam. so someone like lucas who creates dev quality lore vehicles, his mods would be useful to said people

and its not like he charges some obsurd amount

[nimble valley]

but still beam is an odd place to do this and you are causing people to get really annoyed with this surprise paywalling

[fallow robin]

his picnic is just 3 dollars

[ocean mauve]

in the end the daily paid mod discussion circles back to the same thing: some ppl like em, some ppl dont. its your money, do whatever you want with it. like you said, wether something is entertaining or not is different between people

[candid glen]

if i find amusement and think its worth to support the picnic, yes. i would choose the cherrier picnic.

[nimble valley]

paywall is still you deciding what they will pay

donations is what the buyer sees fits depending how useful it is

[candid glen]

in the end it is still something one has created and expecting money for, it is not wrong really

if it was a meshslap i would have understood

[fallow robin]

especially if that money can be invested to make even better work

[candid glen]

yes

[fallow robin]

yeah

[nimble valley]

its ironic since you are arguing with realistic simulation fans using logic about paid mods

realistic simulation nothing but logic and its their hobby

[ocean mauve]

and people are not allowed to spend money on their hobby?

[nimble valley]

beamng is a really odd place to do it imo

[candid glen]

i havent been arguing? all im saying is that what youre saying is very subjective

its not the same for everyone

[ocean mauve]

"imo". exactly :P

[nimble valley]

doesnt fit and also that surprise paywall just proves the point further how weird and out of place it is

and makes people uncomfortable

[candid glen]

why would it make people uncomfortable to you?

[fallow robin]

if someone made a 1:1 recreation of this for 20 dollars would you buy it?

accurate to the last detail

[nimble valley]

if they had the talent to do that they would already have their own company

or on the beamng dev team

case closed

[fallow robin]

but not everyone wants to do that

[ocean mauve]

why has everything got to be about starting your own company with you

some people just enjoy making beamng mods as a hobby, but want a small compensation for it as it costs a lot of time and effort

[nimble valley]

because they want to make it weird and uncomfortable with surprise paywalls

and deciding on their own their work is worthy of it

[ocean mauve]

surprise?

[fallow robin]

i mean if a 1:1 recreation of a car accurate to the last detail was paid i would understand 🤷‍♂️

[nimble valley]

why arent they modding ac or nfs then

[fallow robin]

because thats alot of work

[nimble valley]

selling surprise paid mods over there?

why here bothering the engineering minded folks

[ocean mauve]

because they like playing beamng? lol

[zenith cloud]

if this statement is true, yes

if it sounds drives and looks perfect i would buy it

[zenith cloud]

or at least very good

[nimble valley]

that guy would be with his own company and making it big

he wouldnt be doing surprise paywalls at that point

[ocean mauve]

again with the companies lol

[nimble valley]

firm, company, business

[ocean mauve]

and wdym surprise paywalls, most of the time you will know a mod is paid from the start (like the gavril scout)

[nimble valley]

the cherrier was a surprise

[candid glen]

All in all, its subjective. it isnt always set in stone about logic and whatever else when it comes to anything as everyone will see it differently tbf, how many times have you not bought something that you really dont need but bought anyway because its fun and seems like a good purchase?

[nimble valley]

he changed it last minute

to paid

[fallow robin]

i agree

[nimble valley]

ac is a cesspool at this point thanks to paid mods imo

[zenith cloud]

that car is so hot 😩 why did they make the hood carbon though?!?! whyyy

[nimble valley]

yea gt2 rs i love it

[zenith cloud]

*unpainted carbon

[candid glen]

cesspool because they are bad mods or because there are so many of them?

[fallow robin]

i can agree but thats how alot of modding scenes are in games

[fallow robin]

bad paid mods

[nimble valley]

in 1:1 detail?

[fallow robin]

yes

if someone recreated it 1:1

for beam

[nimble valley]

beam not designed as a game but made into one by some younger people online and youtubers wanting to make profits from kids.

[candid glen]

lol, the repo is full of great mods

that are free

[nimble valley]

are you grasping what you are asking?

[ocean mauve]

beam is definitely designed as a game

[nimble valley]

100% gt2 rs in beamng

i mean as close as it can get i meant

within beamng limits ofc

[nimble valley]

its physics engine is not meant to be a game per say more like engineering tool

beamng.tech and beamng.drive share same physics

[candid glen]

do you know how much money people take for 1:1 accurate 3d models? theres a whole business in this already.

the little money people take for beamng mods

is nothing

[nimble valley]

the problem is the fixed amount

[candid glen]

considering all the work you have to do besides the 3d model

[nimble valley]

and deciding on their own it is worth it

regardless what the outer community has to say

[warped atlas]

so i have a question. i downloaded a miata from a third party website, and everything is going good, the game registers that its a mod and all that, but it aint showing up anywhere other than in the where it shows the mods you have downloaded. what do i need to do to get it to work?

[ocean mauve]

yes, but the then the physics engine is used in a literal game, with maps, and races, and time trials whatnot

and yeah .tech is basically the exact same thing with a few extra debug type of tools to show extra data

[nimble valley]

yes

[olive holly]

Instructions on how to install mods can be found here: ```
<https://documentation.beamng.com/tutorials/mods/installing-mods/>

[nimble valley]

so not designed as a game at all

[ocean mauve]

@warped atlas 👆

[warped atlas]

wonderful, thank you!

[ocean mauve]

used in a literal game, with maps, and races, and time trials whatnot
read

[candid glen]

The game is branded a game on steam, so what is your point? again, its subjective

its not wrong

but your opinion isnt wrong either

[ocean mauve]

right, but it is marketed as a game, and most people seem to play it as... well, a game

[prime veldt]

modders who charge more than the game cost itself. you are a scam.

[candid glen]

yes, i can abide to that

[prime veldt]

taking fivem models and charging people 😭

[candid glen]

unless theres like so much content that fundamentally changes the game, then yes, that is a scam

[nimble valley]

even a dev told me beamng is similar to rfactor

[prime veldt]

Aries - cough cough

his hellcat is 20 usd and his model is from fivem and he didnt make the sounds or the model lmao

[candid glen]

lmao

[nimble valley]

lol

[candid glen]

the market is plagued by these kind of people and i see where people come from with the thoughts of all donation or paid mods being bad for the community

but one has to be able to see through all that tbf

[prime veldt]

kenemation mods aswell. fair enough he makes his mods but charges a whole mortgage

[fallow robin]

his mods are majority stolen assets

[prime veldt]

wouldnt be surprised

[fallow robin]

lol he doesn't make anything

[prime veldt]

leakers do the community justice 🤷🏻‍♂️

[candid glen]

in some ways, yeah, scams like that just suck

[fallow robin]

unpopular opinion real life cars mods should not be sold unless handling power and physics are accurate

because atp if not they are just a model on wheels

[prime veldt]

the meshes are terrible

[nimble valley]

what is the use in cherrier picnic?

just crashing?

i dont get this car

[warped atlas]

hmmm it still aint working,most likely not a good mod?

[fallow robin]

for people who enjoy lore friendly cars

thats the general purpose

[nimble valley]

what is lore friendly

what is lore

[fallow robin]

not a real life brand

[prime veldt]

drive crash respawn

[fallow robin]

story

[prime veldt]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[nimble valley]

story?

does beamng have a story mode?

[fallow robin]

basically lore friendly cars are cars that abide to the ingame brands and cars in beamng

fictional cars basically

the cherrier picnic is a fictional car under the beamng car brand "cherrier"

thats what lore friendly is

like the civetta mondello

under the civetta brand

[nimble valley]

yea ok so fake cars ok

[fallow robin]

yes

[nimble valley]

for example if you modded into rfactor some sci fi crap

and called it a game would it be a game

there is no word for game in the description

yet rfactor and beam have same realism

rf1 and beam do a dev told me

[candid glen]

same realism in what sense?

[ocean mauve]

i personally prefer lore friendly modded cars actually, simply because they fit in with the game better (since vanilla beam has no real brands)

[nimble valley]

just overall realism of driving

how convincing it is and how mathematically accurate it is

basically how it makes sense compared to the real world

he told me beam is on the same level as rf1 lol

and rfactor has no word for game in its description

it is a man in the loop simulator

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there are lore cars though

[candid glen]

the games fall under the simulator category and they are both games where you drive cars. one just happens to focus more on one thing than the other

[nimble valley]

fake brands to get modders going and started

see how its done

[candid glen]

well, is it wrong?

i dont know what your point is tbh

game or not a game, both games have a huge fanbase?

[nimble valley]

ok so at this point anything goes then and its just rules of the jungle?

make anything have any purpose

[candid glen]

well, im not sure what youre against, i know its paid mods yes, but what else?

a game is what anyone considers a game

i mean, it doesnt have to specifically say that is is a game, for people to see it as a game

you know what i mean?

[nimble valley]

you have a point there

[candid glen]

i can make a game in freaking notepad with no real point, not say its a game but people who download it will see it as a game

[hollow citrus]

whats going on

[nimble valley]

so you can turn a sim in to a game?

i guess rfactor is proof

yea ok do whatever you like with beamng

[candid glen]

it is a game, isnt it?

[hollow citrus]

smod's 233rd mention of rfactor

[nimble valley]

i could not care less but the paywall mods is what was the original topic

[candid glen]

yes, but you decided to go into defining what a game is and isnt, lol.

i dont really know why youre so hung up on that lol

[nimble valley]

anything is a game if you want it to be a game i guess i got carried away by that

ok its a game yes

with realism of a full sim

which you can use to simulate real life cars in

as the devs said

[nimble valley]

i think i would

i thought about it and i think i would

this is why i try to do this myself but im not always successful and its tiring to get it right

paying would solve this

wonder if it would get out of hand though they would end up raising price lmfao i would have to go back to doing it myself

bmw themselves made a simulation of their own car m3 e92 back in 2008 sold it for pc

i would have bought i was just too new to this all

this audi rs7 if it turns out to be real nice hmm but still its using others assets thats an issue

if someone did rs7 totally on their own in almost 1:1

im not really rs7 fan but still would be interesting

[ocean mauve]

IIRC the rs6/7 will be free, so at least theyre not making money using stolen models

[nimble valley]

yea ofc free

they cant sell

making it was probably enjoying to him

thats why he decided to begin

[ocean mauve]

plenty of people still do

[nimble valley]

i wonder if doing it completely on your own and it feels like a real car

what would such a mod be worth?

and then give 30% to beam devs

feels like a real car as is possible i meant

and in beamng that is damn close as said by beam dev themselves

[ocean mauve]

that rs6/7 might become one the best when it comes to being close to irl, especially when it comes to all the electronics

[nimble valley]

lets say he did it on his own