game-discussion-1

[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[blissful anvil]

this game is also very kb/controller friendly

[quasi yoke]

Beam to IRL is crazy work

[flint patio]

[blissful anvil]

other sims just suck with them specially with keeb

[echo flare]

they just added more controller options too

[covert echo]

Honestly I’ve gotten so used to keyboard now that idk if learning to use wheel or controller is worth it

[blissful anvil]

it is worth it

[half flare]

10000%

[blissful anvil]

everyone struggles when first learning dw

[quasi yoke]

If you wanna know how to drive good, do wheel

[flint patio]

oh dammit now i need to pull my wheel out again

[blissful anvil]

even I did struggle initially

[quasi yoke]

Why where is it ?

[half flare]

stored away probably

[flint patio]

put it away couple a days ago to focus on my other unfinished games

don't got the money for a rig lol

[half flare]

I just have my wheel on my desk

[echo flare]

I built mine out of mostly scrap wood

[flint patio]

the space it puts between my mouse and keyboard force me to hella stretch

not super fun

[quasi yoke]

You guys don’t make your own rigs ? This cost me 75€ to make. 50€ for seat and 25€ of wood and screws

[flint patio]

well even if i could do that myself i don't got the room to even place one

[echo flare]

Fair, they do take up space

[blissful anvil]

I lowkey want to build one out of wood

[quasi yoke]

Why is the hydro brake so far

[half flare]

I'd have to climb over it to get in and out of my room, it's only 2m²

[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[echo flare]

one of the many mistakes I made with my v1

[blissful anvil]

need to sketch out a design

[echo flare]

Im making plans for a V2 sim

[half flare]

how many buttons do you want on your mouse?

[blissful anvil]

send to local carpenter
pay a lot because it's good wood
????
profit (for them )

[echo flare]

hey that shit is insanely useful leave me alone

[half flare]

probably lol

[flint patio]

-# goddamn logitech shifter and its weak asf clamps

[echo flare]

I have them bound to f13 - f24 for extra buttons

[half flare]

may I suggest in investing in a SHH shifter? H-pattern and sequential in one

[flint patio]

i literally just bought my setup not even a month ago

[echo flare]

At least I can do this /s

[flint patio]

also idk if it'll work on linux

and in any case i 3d printed parts to make the shifter more resistant

(only issue is that it makes the clamp knobs much harder to tighten)

[quasi yoke]

Ahshh shhh shhh 🤫

[half flare]

[flint patio]

this reminds me how damaging is money shifting in this game

[echo flare]

Oh yeah well do you have a buttkicker

[flint patio]

playing games with toggleable realism made me money shift on purpose to slow down and it's super fun :D

[half flare]

[echo flare]

I could never get myself to tolerate the Logitech shifter

It felt way too small

[flint patio]

it's....... fine

[half flare]

this SHH feels miles better than a logitech one

[flint patio]

it does what it says on the tin

[half flare]

[quasi yoke]

My shifter for the next 2 weeks btw

[flint patio]

GODDAMMIT I FORGOT TO PLUG THE POWER BRICK

[echo flare]

I got a backup for when this one breaks but it just won’t break

[half flare]

fancy pants dacia

[quasi yoke]

30k Dacia

Hybrid and manual at the same time

[half flare]

daamn

didn't know dacia made those

[covert echo]

And I thought the CRZ was the only hybrid manual

[quasi yoke]

@half flare

[half flare]

heard that as "30k year old dacia"

lmao

[echo flare]

anyway anyone reading, build a sim its fun

you will not regret it

[covert echo]

One day hopefully

[quasi yoke]

It does noise when you go in

[echo flare]

The non driving part could def use some work lol

[spice fiber]

#game-announcements message oh my god this teaser is a year old already

[covert echo]

What the hell

[quasi yoke]

Renault has the same type of thing

[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-killer-its-him-deadchat-killed-chat-its-him-the-chat-killer-gif-21527634

[flint patio]

sooooo how come the game's takes ages to load the map

[echo flare]

First boot?

Every time I clear cache the first load is fucky

[flint patio]

ahh i see

[echo flare]

I can load into wcusa is under 10 seconds

[flint patio]

uhh how do i set the game to manual shifting

[echo flare]

Gameplay options

You turn off all the safeties (recommended) and make it realistic by default

Q will swap between arcade

#russian-русский

[flint patio]

so like this?

[echo flare]

Ye

[flint patio]

ite let's give it a shot

[echo flare]

If you’re on a controller it’s whatever but with pedals it’s necessary imo

[flint patio]

wait does the car have to have manual trans

[covert echo]

Yes

[flint patio]

oh lol

[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tongue-cat-smiling-gif-11949735780193730026

[covert echo]

I need all of the assists on cuz I would not be able to drive without them lol

[flint patio]

oh btw how come the wheel is just rotating like it has its own brain with feedback on

[spice fiber]

#russian-русский Here please здесь

[covert echo]

Cuz well, I drive on kb

[echo flare]

If you have a Logitech wheel the feedback might need to be inverted?

[coarse sigil]

йует

[half flare]

do what?

[flint patio]

feedback is inverted by default

[flint patio]

ok uninverting it helped

[random whale]

i was wondering if there was a calculator for keeping gear ratios while raising the final drive ratio, i want to add some gears to a car but not change the output of the gears that it already has

[half flare]

#russian-русский

[echo flare]

https://www.blocklayer.com/rpm-gear

[flint patio]

WHAT DID I DO

[coarse sigil]

um

[echo flare]

Linux moment

Happens to me too

Are you running native or proton

[blissful anvil]

that's a lot of zoom out

[flint patio]

iunno i just booted the game right as i installed

[echo flare]

By default it’ll use proton

You have to manually find and launch the Linux version

[flint patio]

should i use the native linux ver

[sonic ermine]

cooked graphics

[echo flare]

I would personally

It worked better for me

[flint patio]

ok where do i find it

[echo flare]

Bin

Im away from my pc while I make myself stupid

[flint patio]

ah

[sonic ermine]

fuck i dont have italy loaded at all its so laggy

[flint patio]

found it

apparently beamng doesn't support cachy but it does support steamos so it should be fine

[echo flare]

It’s not distro specific

[random whale]

i don't quite understand what part of this helps me, is there a certain function that i'm supposed to use?

[echo flare]

That’s the only gearing calculator I know of

[random whale]

it's fairly interesting, but i can't find out how it helps me

[fringe spear]

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[echo flare]

Can any active mods mute this guy for real

[covert echo]

Lmao

[echo flare]

We got one like 1 mod online and he’s probably doing irl stuff

I hope they know servers get shutdown for that

[tiny citrus]

not having 4 mirrors is crazy

[arctic harness]

Huh

[sonic ermine]

offical vvt when?

[echo flare]

Bros spamming Russian and dumb gifs

#russian-русский

[arctic harness]

Covet

Hey google, translate this

[covert echo]

All from Ibishu plus?

[arctic harness]

"I DON'T SPAM"

[arctic harness]

Yup. One of my favorite mods

[sonic ermine]

#russian-русский

should i save this?

[tiny citrus]

is this a good racecar

[covert echo]

I’d say yes
Just needs higher ride height

[arctic harness]

Maybe in the 30s

[night saddle]

crash it

[fringe spear]

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[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/ponste50-gif-21291558

[tiny citrus]

fast boi runs 130 kilometers per hour!

[sonic ermine]

what the gov thjinks happens when tint

what the finnish gov thinks when literally any single part of your car isnt OEM

[tiny citrus]

😭

[echo flare]

like a glove

[fresh marsh]

how did it spawn lol (i didnt do it)

[covert echo]

If the mod comes with a simplified traffic version then it’s gonna spawn regardless

[random whale]

i need to work on my reaction time

[covert echo]

A V12 in a bolide? Goddamn

[random whale]

it's actually a v16, it just doesn't show the right name

[covert echo]

Oh lol, even more deadly

But it also sounds very fun

[random whale]

8.0l v16

it is a lot of fun

[fresh marsh]

oh, thx

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @covert echo (current: #1 - 464)

[covert echo]

What mod btw?

[random whale]

Customizable Engines and Drivetrains is what i believe it's a part of

[covert echo]

Ah ok

[random whale]

i love it for how much customization it gives

[covert echo]

The RK mod, right?

[random whale]

yeah, it's actually a part of RK's Highly Customizable Engines

[echo flare]

lights on lights

[covert echo]

Ah, I have that mod as well, but I don’t really use it since there’s no engine models

[covert echo]

Very bright boy

[random whale]

fair enough, i find it interesting to use because i love cars and it's able to teach me more about them and how they work

[sonic ermine]

ibishu plus
🔄 translating
bx series and covet plus

[gaunt turret]

does anyone know how i would be able to calculate/see the motion ratio of the spring travel and wheel travel of cars through their jbeam files ?

[prisma hamlet]

Is there a way to increase fov withiut increasing render resolution in vr?

[sonic ermine]

isnt fov tied to the headset or no?

[prisma hamlet]

Not found any of that in settings

[gaunt turret]

fov is tied to the hardware

[prisma hamlet]

So its just depends on headset, not any ingame settings

[ancient ether]

is it possible to use your own cars??

[mellow berry]

nice engine yall

[fringe spear]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[mellow berry]

beautiful

[mossy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/light-down-syndrome-kid-gif-2579334221828763248

[prisma hamlet]

Whats the vehicle is that

[mellow berry]

ummmmmmm crappy ford truck

theres like zero good truck mods

[prisma hamlet]

D-series is already not bad

[mellow berry]

whats this for

[mellow berry]

true, the kodiak and all the other expansions helps

[prisma hamlet]

I don't got it

[echo flare]

easter egg no one found

[mellow berry]

what does it do

[prisma hamlet]

Like why u need just rebadged d series and roamer

[mellow berry]

80% of truck mods are meshlaps of that

yea ill stick to the d series

[prisma hamlet]

H-series also kinda cool

But i slways wanted something like 2.0 tdi in them

[agile tartan]

another subaru based car when?

[mellow berry]

idk

[agile tartan]

pessima subaru conversion?

[mellow berry]

do they have a suggestions channel by chance

[agile tartan]

idkkk

[echo flare]

#game-feedback

[lament cloud]

sunburst meshslap corolla is crazy 😭

[mossy karma]

he’s braindead don’t bother

[mellow berry]

gotta love when this crap happens

[agile tartan]

mobile game graphics

[lament cloud]

i play on igpu btw

[agile tartan]

i feel bad 😔

[agile tartan]

xD suree okaay

[mossy karma]

bro you have the exact same fucking graphics 🥀 sybau

[terse ivy]

is there a way to see the speed limits on different roads cuz i keep getting pulled over 🙏

[agile tartan]

sure

[mossy karma]

don’t

[terse ivy]

?

[agile tartan]

old screenshot

[mossy karma]

don’t pull over

[mellow berry]

run from cops

[terse ivy]

too lazy

[lament cloud]

this interior is nasty 💀

[agile tartan]

@mossy karma peak graphics

[agile tartan]

im gonna die 💀

[mellow berry]

lazy ass interior

[lament cloud]

also despite clearly being a corolla with an automatic, they meshslapped a sunburst with a MANUAL 💀

[mellow berry]

having no interior is better

[terse ivy]

what the in the plastic is that

[agile tartan]

xDDDDDDD

id rather drive manual tbh

[lament cloud]

i live in america and i dont know how to drive manual insert lobotomy gif

[agile tartan]

i live in america to and ik how beam tought me

then someone let me do it irl :3 it was sooooo ez broo

[lament cloud]

one car i do wanna get is a second gen forester

[agile tartan]

manual is so ez

[agile tartan]

YES buy a xt tho bc vroom

[lament cloud]

the ones in my area are either a clapped out mess or not drivable

[agile tartan]

:( what abt legacy gen 4 (2005-2009)

[lament cloud]

did find this sick deal tho

[echo flare]

I miss my subaru

[lament cloud]

my family drives a new 2025 outback

WTHELLY

[mossy karma]

is your family low iq

[spice fiber]

pretty good mod tho

[mossy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-pee-funny-cat-gif-436236211739437212

it’s realistic guys!!!

[spice fiber]

fr

[mossy karma]

looks like real car = real… best…

[lament cloud]

l ragebait

[spice fiber]

i mean it wasnt even supposed to be ragebait lol

[lament cloud]

its just a shitty sunburst meshslap

[spice fiber]

ShockedHog~1

[agile tartan]

theres only a few good irl car mods tbh

ik one but its not out yet its the 90s impreza

[lament cloud]

mod so good it froze the game

[floral hamlet]

in this challenge, no

[floral hamlet]

replace "good" with "bad" and you will be correct

[fickle kiln]

bluds game got taken out by an outback 💀 💀

[agile tartan]

sarcasim:

[knotty tusk]

thats notb even beam

[lament cloud]

and its the same gen my family got 💀

ITS A FUCKING EDITED ETK 800 😭 😭

[mellow berry]

nice

[mellow berry]

wth is that

also nice no texture barrels

[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-fred-jones-unmasking-mask-original-gif-15500596655549659645

[keen pecan]

Yall how's my new pfp

[echo flare]

Probably when they started to try and edit then realized they’re way in over their head

[mellow berry]

ok

[lament cloud]

when u download a mod from modland and you end up getting a lazy meshslap

[keen pecan]

Your bill when u eat at a fancy restaurant

But lowk that error had so much ragebaits 😭

[echo flare]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

There’s a file you have to delete iirc

[lament cloud]

also they used a MANUAL ETK 800 WHEN THIS GEN OUTBACK HAS A FUCKING CVT

[blissful anvil]

because porting a cvt requires effort

[lament cloud]

the least they could have done was port the automatic version 💀

[echo flare]

The CVT I daily tries to mimic shift points I think

It’s different than the one in beam a bit

[mellow berry]

hell yea

[raven mortar]

what system is it? mimicking shift points kinda defeats the purpose of a CVT in my opinion

[echo flare]

Crosstrek

[echo flare]

Yeah but I can understand why they would do that

Same thing with the fake engine noise

It appeals to the average dummy

[raven mortar]

yeah. is there an option for "true" CVT mode or is it locked?

[echo flare]

Not sure tbh, not my car to mess with unfortunately

It’s got paddle shifters for some reason lol

They are fun though, it mimics an auto so well

[mossy karma]

lol my friends legacy has the same thing

paddles and fake shifts 😭

[echo flare]

Can’t lie I do use it sometimes

It responds surprisingly quick

[mossy karma]

i can see them being somewhat useful because cvts suck
but they also couldve just programmed the cvt behavior or whatever better

[echo flare]

It’s still overall smooth and great for everyday driving

[vapid creek]

Since when can i puncture tires?

[gaunt turret]

years

[gaunt turret]

i've stepped up my tuning tools hold on

for the etk k

[vapid creek]

No?

[gaunt turret]

yes

[lament cloud]

beamng players when they see a part on their car turn orange

[vapid creek]

Nope

[vapid creek]

I have never in my 8 years of owning this game seen it

[echo flare]

I think they only added the sound for it recently with 0.37

[thick stirrup]

does anyone know where this is irl, i know the map is new zealand but this coffe shop is somewhere else

[vapid creek]

probably

and they never slowly deflated before

[blissful anvil]

that's a new thing

[vapid creek]

it is in beamng

[blissful anvil]

but punctures have been for like 10 years now

[thick stirrup]

i meant the place irl

[blissful anvil]

probably since pressureWheels was added and replaced hubWheels in 0.3

[vapid creek]

Not when going offroad

[blissful anvil]

tires don't care about where they get punctured

[echo flare]

The documentation on pressure wheels is cool

[blissful anvil]

mhm

[echo flare]

Recommend anyone curious skim through it

[spice fiber]

i mean the slowly deflating thing got added in this update but punctured tires in general existed since forever

[echo flare]

Tires are already more advanced than I thought

[blissful anvil]

that's my speciality

[vapid creek]

No but like if I go offroad they get punctured and that hasn't happened in older versions

[blissful anvil]

do you have the old spike strip mod

[vapid creek]

Nope

[blissful anvil]

my tires don't puncture just by going off the road

if that's what you mean

you likely have a mod issue

[vapid creek]

They do

[barren karma]

depends on the map

sometimes theres hitboxes that eat tires alive

[vapid creek]

eeast coast

[blissful anvil]

grass and dirt doesn't do that

[barren karma]

yea theres spots where your tires get destroyed

[barren karma]

depends what he means by off the road tho

[blissful anvil]

I'm assuming they just mean touching the ground since they haven't elaborated further nor sent any media about it

[vapid creek]

Let me get high profile tyres and see if it pops

[barren karma]

would be amazing if you told us the spot so we can try and replicate your issue

[vapid creek]

They still get popped

[echo flare]

Fr I’m itching for off-roading

[blissful anvil]

but like send a video or something 😭

[echo flare]

What map and spot

[barren karma]

😭 please show us

[vapid creek]

these bushes on east coast

[echo flare]

Bet lemme crawl over to my pc

[barren karma]

lemme open beam

so are you just hitting the bushes? what speed

[hardy rampart]

just brought the game on steam but it says the version on mine is 0.36.4.0 but online it says the current version is 37.5 how come mine wont update and change to the newer version?

[echo flare]

Restart steam

[vapid creek]

any speed

[hardy rampart]

already have

[vapid creek]

literally 3kmh

[barren karma]

these right

[echo flare]

What part of the map is that again I like never use east coast

[barren karma]

follow the highway straight from the highway default spawn, take the next left you see and follow it down

[vapid creek]

yes

[blissful anvil]

nothing here

[vapid creek]

The tire eaters

[vapid creek]

try vivace arsenic

[blissful anvil]

no issues with it either

[vapid creek]

probably a mod

or somethin

[blissful anvil]

pretty much what I said before

bushes are deadly at high speeds but they don't eat tires

[barren karma]

my bad im mid torential downpour right now

[blissful anvil]

hmt appreciation time

[vapid creek]

Lowk would be a cool feature

[barren karma]

ttb wheel apprecation time

[vapid creek]

Like punishing me for goin a bit off the road at mach 2 with low profile tyres

[blissful anvil]

that happens if you hit anything hard enough

[barren karma]

i lowkey think a light pole just fell over

[echo flare]

go pick it back up wtf

[barren karma]

hell nah!!

[blissful anvil]

didn't know rain was against polish people

[barren karma]

am i even on the right road

[vapid creek]

yes

[blissful anvil]

[vapid creek]

lovely bx

[blissful anvil]

yes but go the other way around

[barren karma]

i turned around and did the entire thing in reverse, no popping

[blissful anvil]

then hit the left side against the bushes

[echo flare]

I used the biggest tires I had and didnt notice anything

[barren karma]

thank u 😄

lets just appreciate this beautiful tire tread for a second

[blissful anvil]

[barren karma]

the ad08s are just beautiful

[blissful anvil]

mm tread

[glacial valley]

just got beamng, any graphic mods or anything i shouldg et to make my game look good

[barren karma]

wait 1 sec im gonna buy the 2-3pc wheelpack

finally made a car that needs 2pc 😭

[ivory sphinx]

Bruckell Bastion

[barren karma]

best 3 dollar i EVER spent.

[blissful anvil]

ooh interesting choice

consider leaving a review on gumroad when you're done

[barren karma]

oh yea u right

will do

[lament cloud]

most repoed car in beamng drive

[barren karma]

review left 😄

[blissful anvil]

[half flare]

do you have a spike strip mod installed?

[barren karma]

collecting the infinity stones

[blissful anvil]

you got them all

[barren karma]

😔 I NEED MORE

[lament cloud]

would yall drive a beamng car irl

[half flare]

[barren karma]

ok he might have them all

[blissful anvil]

I plan on making more free stuff, don't plan on making new paid mods

[half flare]

most beam cars exist irl to an extent

[blissful anvil]

just update the existing ones

[vapid creek]

No

[blissful anvil]

handling 3 paid mods is good enough lol

[barren karma]

hes a rich millionare i just cant prove it

[lament cloud]

beamng players when they crash their car and cant press r to reset

[half flare]

being rich and juggling mods are 2 completely different things

[floral hamlet]

Rarely ever see a coupe with popups, nice

[blissful anvil]

oh I wish

[barren karma]

yea im a onevia fanboy at heart 😔

[blissful anvil]

I get good money but man I wouldn't even touch a job elsewhere if I earned millions

[floral hamlet]

I used to rock a two tone onevia in fr legends

[floral hamlet]

White with light brown cream something

[barren karma]

onevias are the reason i actually like cars lmao

they got me onto the scene

[blissful anvil]

hotwheels got me into cars

[floral hamlet]

Were they ever jdm onevias?

[barren karma]

nah mostly usdm

[floral hamlet]

Cars got me into cars

[blissful anvil]

[floral hamlet]

I used to watch it multiple times a day for like a year when i was like 4 or 5

[floral hamlet]

Wdym mostly

[barren karma]

this car is also USDM

[blissful anvil]

ok shower time then hopefully finish the advan gts

[barren karma]

converts

front end swaps

[floral hamlet]

I meant factory trim

Ik there was a sort of factory sileighty

Even made it into beam

[barren karma]

yea i dont think ive ever seen a genuine onevia

[floral hamlet]

Twonevia💔

Realistically its a twonevia

Since 240sx and not 180sx

[barren karma]

true but 180 sounds better

[floral hamlet]

True

[floral hamlet]

I wanna make my v8 bx a coupe now

You fucker

[half flare]

hate to break it to ya, that's already a thing

[mossy karma]

top gear, cars, and the iron man car did it for me

[barren karma]

😄

bruh my turbo has no textures

[echo flare]

Man I was having so much fun

[floral hamlet]

I watched the arctic special a billion times but i barely remember anything since i was a literal 5 year old

[barren karma]

patagonia special was my favorite

[floral hamlet]

I was deadass getting brainwashed by top gear and the cars movie

[echo flare]

Electricity privileges revoked

[barren karma]

esprit my beloved

[floral hamlet]

Whats already a thing

[half flare]

v8 bx coupe

[floral hamlet]

Dawg i made the thing multiple times already

Its just that the one i have now is a hatch

[half flare]

oh, derp

[floral hamlet]

And i want to convert it into a coupe

[barren karma]

not really a fan of the liftback BX tbh

and the KLJP early liftback isnt much better

[floral hamlet]

Taillights looks hella nice from behind

[barren karma]

thats about it

[floral hamlet]

I would burn every single kljp bx config

I hate all of them

Especially early ones

[barren karma]

this started as a KLJP early config

240BX SE

[floral hamlet]

You did do a good job of making it look good

But factory kljp configs, absolutely not

[barren karma]

depends on the config tho

the rotary ones arent horrifc

[floral hamlet]

Whats the nismo 270r one

[barren karma]

probably 270bx

[floral hamlet]

Beamng mods that put rotary into absolutely everything japanese pmo

[barren karma]

if im gonna use any BX rear end tho:

[floral hamlet]

1 irl company did rotaries and for some reason the whole ibishu lineup now deserves to have s rotary option

I cant type for shit❤️

[barren karma]

yea it doesnt make a whole lotta sense to me

the only ibishus that deserve it are the signia and liftback BX

[floral hamlet]

Rotaries are only cool in mazdas

[floral hamlet]

There isnt anything mazda about ibishu tho

[barren karma]

signia is based on an RX3 and something else

[mossy karma]

fr

[barren karma]

celica iirc

[floral hamlet]

Let me look up how signia even looks

[mossy karma]

my brother made me watch top gear instead of whatever cartoons

[floral hamlet]

Ok it gets a pass

[mossy karma]

absolute peak decision

[floral hamlet]

But everything else - no

[mossy karma]

my kids are getting top gear and no cocomelon tung tung tung sahur

[barren karma]

the issue is

[floral hamlet]

Are car people just brainwashed into being car people

[mossy karma]

yes

[barren karma]

the lore friendly RX7 FB is a hirochi/bruckell 😭

[floral hamlet]

Bx is a literal S chassis nissan

[mossy karma]

skmj my belover

[barren karma]

so lore wise the signia kinda doesnt make sense being based on rx3/celica with a rotary option

[mossy karma]

cant wait for starling ea

[floral hamlet]

I mean, a lot of companies did experiment in the 70s with rotary engines afaik

[mossy karma]

wasnt there a rotary lada or something at some point

[floral hamlet]

Yes, a police lada 2103 had a rotary

[mossy karma]

cinema

[floral hamlet]

They sold a few of them for civs

[floral hamlet]

Still a shitbox

I dislike every lada with passion but i dislike 2103 slightly less

[mossy karma]

whatever

[floral hamlet]

Even the regular ones

[barren karma]

these wheels are so peak.

hardly even clear the brakes 🔥

[lament cloud]

bruckell needs to strengthen the bastion

[floral hamlet]

How much hp? I only ise race brakes when i have a ton of power

[barren karma]

like 230??

[floral hamlet]

Bruh

[barren karma]

its running sport pads

[floral hamlet]

Put the sport brakes in the bag

[barren karma]

hell nah

[floral hamlet]

Make it even

[floral hamlet]

Why not

Speaking of brakes

[mossy karma]

i bet these go hard on the i series

[floral hamlet]

My mr turbo covet has an interesting brake setup

[barren karma]

it brakes just fine

[robust crescent]

Beaming should create fart noises every 5 hours

[mossy karma]

sybau

[floral hamlet]

Sybau unfunny russian

[barren karma]

ill test for u

[mossy karma]

whats the biggest size of them again

[barren karma]

14x9 😭

[floral hamlet]

I have sport brakes from the fwd model on the front, and mr turbo brakes at the back

[robust crescent]

Never knew russians had the word "ф"

[mossy karma]

oh

[mossy karma]

thats a letter not a word bro

[floral hamlet]

It created perfect brake balance

[robust crescent]

Srry srry mb gng

[floral hamlet]

We do

[mossy karma]

i needa make a ttb wheel and tire i series build

[robust crescent]

Im serbian

[floral hamlet]

You a bro then

[floral hamlet]

Want a suggestion

[mossy karma]

sure

[barren karma]

they are far too small

[barren karma]

RC01s

[mossy karma]

maybe if they were like 16s

[half flare]

car

[mossy karma]

john ttb!!!! please!!

[barren karma]

john ttb!! please make aero fans or more mesh rims!!

id love to see these tho

[blissful anvil]

they look american in an ehhh way

american wheels not have thin ass lips challenge (looking at you AR)

[barren karma]

😔

wb these

[floral hamlet]

those?

[blissful anvil]

I like them but they're multipiece

saving multipieces for the future

[barren karma]

they have a 1pc variant

[blissful anvil]

say no more

[mossy karma]

ehh i prefer those on jdm

[barren karma]

the earlier years of their production were 1PC

[floral hamlet]

put sport5's in the bag bro

[mossy karma]

Naur

[barren karma]

what are these goobers

[floral hamlet]

cant go wrong with te's

[half flare]

teehee

[barren karma]

mmm hayashi racing wheels..

[floral hamlet]

hayaaa....

[mossy karma]

instagram has been giving me small wheel propoganda

[supple cypress]

why god why does the ai do 20 under 😭😭

[floral hamlet]

when i was like 12 i had a thing for white cars with those kind of wheels

[barren karma]

i have no idea what the fuck these are but they look so cool

just the ones on the left

[floral hamlet]

without the cover*

[supple cypress]

looks like aero wheels

[barren karma]

valid tho, i had an obession with gold meshes and blue

[floral hamlet]

nah like, it was bad

[floral hamlet]

im talking pre rework bx with those silver/gold wheels on it

backersomething

[red goblet]

I haven't played Beam for a bit i should though maybe

[floral hamlet]

you should

[floral hamlet]

have you seen ibishu white dish hubcaps

[barren karma]

i think

[floral hamlet]

on the zxi pessima/covet

they are awesome

[red goblet]

I want beam ng to make a Hirochi BX-9 which is based off my mother's CX9

[barren karma]

lemme check

oh yea those fuck

[floral hamlet]

sadly they are only on 14x5.5 or something

sorry ass wheels

[floral hamlet]

cool as fuck

[barren karma]

can probably still make the size work

[floral hamlet]

@blissful anvil how hard would it be to make those hubcaps for 16/15 inch wheels

[barren karma]

im just in need of aerofans 😔

[steel sable]

trying to customize inside the engine bay of this car, problem is the hood doesn’t open wide enough to let enough light in so that i can see. so, did i turn the game time so the sun is faced directly into the engine bay? no. i pulled up the trophy truck and turned on the light bar. techonologia.

[barren karma]

the real solution is just removing your hood until youre done

[steel sable]

oh yeah i forgot i could do that

[barren karma]

beamng isnt on mobile, the ads lied to you

[limber bear]

The ads lied

How does one fall for that in 2025 😭

[barren karma]

dont you have a pc?

[floral hamlet]

maybe hes 12

are you 12 perhaps?

[barren karma]

are you under the age of 13

yo you needa leave 😭

ur too young for discord

[floral hamlet]

<@&710084482031550547>

got em

[steel sable]

wait if i add a part to a car does it unattach from a node i attached it to

i wanna attach the car to the ground so it stops moving every time i add a part (yes the e brake it on)

[barren karma]

you realise admitting to being sub 13 can get your account AND servers striked, right?

[steel sable]

it’s against TOS

if i remove the watergate do i get infinite psi

[viscid quartz]

Watergate

[limber bear]

How old was he lmai

[echo scarab]

Wastegate* also no u will not

[steel sable]

watergate 😭😭 i didn’t even see that i missspelled that

[steel sable]

aw :(

[echo scarab]

U will get compressor surge that will damage ur turbo tho if u do it irl

Altought to be fair it sounds good...

[limber bear]

Soooo how old was the kid

[steel sable]

well not irl ofc i wouldn’t do it irl

[steel sable]

“she said she was 12!”

[limber bear]

🔥 reference

I love that

[steel sable]

elite ball knowledge reference?

i gotta start hanging out here more you guys are cool

[echo scarab]

Is beamng drive a good racing sim?

[limber bear]

Watch out for trony lol

[limber bear]

All it lacks is good tire simulation to be the top tier racing game

[steel sable]

something just feels off about it compared to a real racing sim

[floral hamlet]

almost

[limber bear]

Its the tires.

[steel sable]

this could be what i’m feeling ^

[steel sable]

yeah. they don’t feel right at all

[barren karma]

12

[echo scarab]

Damn and someone made an ok tire mod if i remember

Tho tires feel wonky and drift phisics are bad

[barren karma]

the aero simulation is also pretty barebones

most of the aero is just a single value on a part

[echo scarab]

Maybe they are gonna atleast try fix the tires...

[barren karma]

they are

they need to fix tire pressures too while theyre at it

[blissful anvil]

it's true I am the tire

[barren karma]

yo!! he the tire.

[barren karma]

sir how does it feel to be pushed to 3G on a BX

[floral hamlet]

which tire would you be

[blissful anvil]

[umbral quest]

anyone know any good rock crawling maps??

[floral hamlet]

i feel like im literally bridgestone potenze re71-r

[blissful anvil]

I would be a 520A

or a SPC2

[steel sable]

utah actually has a few hidden climbs

[blissful anvil]

my beloved

[steel sable]

i was in a rock crawler era when i got into mini rc crawlers and built my own

[floral hamlet]

cup 2's on a scout

[umbral quest]

hell yae that nice

[umbral quest]

did them all

[half flare]

send it

[barren karma]

all my homies will remember when the RA1s were good

[blissful anvil]

cup 2 the world

[barren karma]

needs new textures when after RWP update

[steel sable]

have you tried them in something more challenging like the side by side thing

[umbral quest]

nope

never thot of it

[half flare]

love how no one remembers the name of it

[barren karma]

god damn what are those wheels

[blissful anvil]

they were retextured already 🥀

[barren karma]

guh

[blissful anvil]

private commission, SSR Professor SP5

[barren karma]

might need to reinstall the tirepack then

unless im tweaking and just barely noticed the difference

[blissful anvil]

the difference is pretty big

[barren karma]

ill see what my ra1s look like tomorrow

i will eepy weepy

[blissful anvil]

[steel sable]

62psi of boost, and all that power is going to the rear wheels

[half flare]

I use S plus wheels far too much

donk lookin ahh

[blissful anvil]

definitely a size or two too big

[knotty tusk]

the wheels on my car are locking up so quickly

[floral hamlet]

erm, new wheels???

[limber bear]

guh

[blissful anvil]

read

[limber bear]

just realized you had a bunch of free wheels

[blissful anvil]

yeah I've been doing monthly-ish releases

have fun

[limber bear]

thanks!

the steelies look sick in the pictures ngl

[blissful anvil]

they're actually alloy wheels

[half flare]

worst

[blissful anvil]

and they're a bit lighter than most wheels

[limber bear]

oh what

that's actually cool ngl, im gonna fit them on the fps trapez for maximum shitbox performance

[half flare]

steelie pack when?
-# I've tried making them myself but the textures always end up borked in beam

[blissful anvil]

the super rap evo is an evolution of the original super raps, a pioneer in the ultralight wheels scene

[limber bear]

so called wieś tuning

this is nice

[blissful anvil]

I wonder what I can do for the november release

other than these

[half flare]

R128 CVT

[blissful anvil]

wait wtf it's 31 already

[half flare]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[blissful anvil]

I won't be able to release these tomorrow

[limber bear]

beautiful

WOW

[blissful anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[floral hamlet]

cant

https://tenor.com/view/dog-swing-gif-23878746

[knotty tusk]

i slightly retuned ts and now it can actually turn in

[floral hamlet]

forgot to ask

how come?

[steel sable]

that’s with no nos, just 63psi of boost

[limber bear]

guh

guardrail wrecked my life ngl

[mossy karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966566484174311436/1387669137240883251/tire.gif

[floral hamlet]

This car actually fucking sucks btw

[steel sable]

i added 500kw shot of nos, this thing grabs 6th gear from 3rd like it’s nothing

[mossy karma]

no it doesnt

[floral hamlet]

Modder probably made it drive like shit on purpose

[floral hamlet]

Yeah it looks good, no doubt

[mossy karma]

did you try it at release

or have you tried it any time recently

have you tried it with the tire pack

[floral hamlet]

Did he update it recently

After august

[mossy karma]

he updated it a couple days after release and it drives good now

[floral hamlet]

Yep, still ass

Covet mr had a glow up with ttb tires, nuova just became drivable with them

[floral hamlet]

After release on repo?

[floral hamlet]

Ill give it a try some time later

When i get myself to play singleplayer again

[mossy karma]

its really fun with the modena sports

[floral hamlet]

Modenas are my go to tire

Not sports, just modenas

[mossy karma]

my personal config has stock wheels, sport(?) suspension, modena sports, stage 1 block, max rpm ecu, upgraded intake and exhaust

[knotty tusk]

sounds like a joy to drive

[mossy karma]

why does that screenshot have cup 2rs

😨

[floral hamlet]

Its real pretty

[floral hamlet]

Skill issue????

[half flare]

beamNG.drive

[blissful anvil]

liar!!!!

your pants are now on FIRE

[quasi yoke]

Beamng realistic mod

[mossy karma]

it drives better on modena sports!!

[mossy karma]

????

[quasi yoke]

BeamNG without and with graphic mods

[blissful anvil]

hell nah no way that scrapmobile is a thing already in beam

[knotty tusk]

get this man a screen recorder

[limber bear]

i like the way it handles

[mossy karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064335716802371708/1312598934077837413/togif.gif

[quasi yoke]

No way in hell am I going to another room to open an app you’re fucking nuts

[mossy karma]

putting in all that effort to edit but yet he cant even record properly 😭

[blissful anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/692222073971539978/1301245165096272023/speechmemified_image0-23.jpg.gif.gif

[knotty tusk]

what are u even talking about bro 😭

[mossy karma]

probably yoinked the file from a dealership site and slapped it straight onto a v*vace

[quasi yoke]

For the record my computer with my primary mouse and main screen is into another room. If I open OBS it will open on the other room

[mossy karma]

why dont you sit in the other room then

[knotty tusk]

so you cant record the other monitor

[mossy karma]

top 0 intellect

[quasi yoke]

Where would my fucking setup where I drive be, stupid

[mossy karma]

in the room?

and how the fuck are you playing without a mouse and keyboard anyway

are you just selecting a car and youre stuck with that for eternity?

[quasi yoke]

No? There is a reason my rig is in another room cuz I don’t have space for it in mine

[limber bear]

i foken totaled eht

[quasi yoke]

Only mouse no keyboard

[mossy karma]

bring your keyboard with you then??

and you only need the mouse to open obs anyways lol

[knotty tusk]

u dont even really need a keyboard to open obs either

[quasi yoke]

Uh, no, it’s wired

[mossy karma]

you need to get your priorities set bro

you have a full driving rig but your setup is all over the place

[quasi yoke]

As I said, OBS’s opening icon is on a screen I can’t see because it’s in another room

[knotty tusk]

just open file explorer bro

[mossy karma]

all these excuses instead of just opening obs 🥀

[solid sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1341149895603650591/1419655963442413659/season2episode20GIFbySpongeBobSquarePants-ezgif.com-added-text_1.gif

oops wrong one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/966566484174311436/1387669137240883251/tire.gif

there ya go

[solid sparrow]

me when obs is just on my steam

[severe flame]

i'm working on a research study about how people interact with the displays on modern-day cars
i wanted to create an instrument cluster that felt generic and non-specific to any brand, very ambiguous, and this is what I have so far. do you guys have any feedback?

[solid sparrow]

its 2 circles, that has been the design since the 40s

thats all you need apart from warning lights and blinkers

[severe flame]

okay, sounds like i'm on the right track then 👍

[solid sparrow]

yeah, if you want generic like you said, this is as generic as it gets

[quasi yoke]

With what keyboard

[severe flame]

i only ever owned one car with such an electronic display, so I was wondering how generic I could make it with such a narrow influence

[solid sparrow]

congratulations, you've achieved toddler status and have drawn 2 circles, round of applause please

[quasi yoke]

Look up CarPlay ultra

[solid sparrow]

oowh look, 2 circles

[knotty tusk]

fella

un fullscreen beamng

and then cick on fille explorer

[solid sparrow]

no stop, why don't you just have a fucking keyboard bro

[knotty tusk]

deadass

[quasi yoke]

Look, this is how my layout is. Sim room, main room. Cannot move PC due to constraints with wires. I’m as close as I can get it

[solid sparrow]

why are you being a dumbass on purpose

[severe flame]

in substitution for a music something like that, I might put some trip metrics or something? I'm not sure

[mossy karma]

speed limit should go in the middle imo
same with the "ready" and "boost" text

[severe flame]

some cars also have a 3d-visualization type thing there

[quasi yoke]

Did you ever see full screen ??

[mossy karma]

like off to the sides of the middle maybe

[severe flame]

hm, ok

[solid sparrow]

i despise modern displays, just give me a dial

[knotty tusk]

yes

[severe flame]

i'm a HMI UX research student, the displays are gonna be my job 😭

[knotty tusk]

if its not full screen then just click on the file explorer button on ur task barb ro

[solid sparrow]

stop being a dumbass and buy a wireless keyboard you monkey

[solid sparrow]

hope they pay you enough XD

[echo scarab]

Clean nuova bolide

[mossy karma]

and im not understanding these numbers

[knotty tusk]

reading comprehension of a gen alpha ipad kid bro holy shit

[severe flame]

well, my main hope is that this research project goes well for now. if not, it'll be a lot harder to find a job at all

[mossy karma]

is that rpm?

[solid sparrow]

battery percentage

[severe flame]

batt %

[mossy karma]

oh

[severe flame]

i should put it somewhere

[solid sparrow]

well, good luck

[echo scarab]

Cherrier be like

[mossy karma]

below the eco mode text

just battery % or something

[severe flame]

i think that my main gimmick here is beamng.tech usage in my project... everyone will think i'm really cool 😎

[quasi yoke]

that is windowed mode, you’re incoherent

[mossy karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064335716802371708/1312598934077837413/togif.gif

[knotty tusk]

why are you genuinely a dumbass bru

[quasi yoke]

By the way not everyone has money to put on a keyboard

[solid sparrow]

you can buy a sim rig in another room, wtf are you talking about you full on spastic?!

[knotty tusk]

so u have money to spend on a tv but nnot 40 dollars for a keyboard

[quasi yoke]

Why are you being petty. Things are how they are and that’s it

[quasi yoke]

BUY?! BUY ?! are you crazy I built this shit myself

[knotty tusk]

how am i the petty one

[echo scarab]

I just use the windows button, look for screenshot and drag my mouse then click on "save"

[quasi yoke]

I made my rig for cheaper

[knotty tusk]

ngl this gotta be ragebait bro

[limber bear]

moar driving

[solid sparrow]

i don't give a fuck, are you a spastic?

[lament cloud]

is the crusher in beamng gon get a remaster?

[solid sparrow]

it did mate, last update

you have a problem, your problem is easily solvable, solve it

[mossy karma]

what sort of wheel are you getting for $40 lmfao

[severe flame]

cheese wheel

[knotty tusk]

yeah hes ragebaiting ggs

[solid sparrow]

as a dutch person, cheese is not that cheap

[mossy karma]

not even used l*gitech gets that cheap

[echo scarab]

What if i have a problem in grades

[quasi yoke]

Are you ?

[knotty tusk]

hes even on a g29

[solid sparrow]

genetics are hard to overcome

[mossy karma]

ok so hes ragebaiting

[solid sparrow]

are you being serious about this? or are you finally getting attention and going with it even though everybody is calling you an idiot?

[echo scarab]

Im gonna overcome my teachers. Thanks.

[undone laurel]

Gave +1 Reputation to @solid sparrow (current: #84 - 57)

[quasi yoke]

Free. TV, free, seat, free. Handbrake, gift.

[solid sparrow]

good luck coming on your teachers 👍

[severe flame]

in korea it's almost exactly $40

[limber bear]

instead of overcoming your teachers, try coming all over your teachers ❤️

[severe flame]

but it's bad cheese

[solid sparrow]

north or south?

-# this is rhetorical but funny

[quasi yoke]

I just don’t understand you lol you don’t make sense, I’m trying to figure out the goal of what you’ve been saying since like almost an hour soon

[limber bear]

sure you got that for free, but its better to list an average price than just go "meh, free, everything i have is free"

[severe flame]

bonus image

[mossy karma]

ok so put in some of your own fuckin money to make your experience better by getting a keyboard

[solid sparrow]

then say that so we can come to an understanding instead of acting like a monkey.

you don't have a keyboard to open obs on your sim rig because its in a different room, buy a wireless keyboard is what i'm saying

[quasi yoke]

I did though ? Sourced them from different properties in the family

[severe flame]

i think you know the answer, comrade...

[solid sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-jongun-hi-hello-dictador-gif-12672400

[limber bear]

im gonna wait till he steals a dd wheel and says "meh, free."

[solid sparrow]

hello little rocket man

[limber bear]

that's not what i meant, at all. not even close.

[lament cloud]

no that was the roller only

[solid sparrow]

you're just a thief you cunt XD

[solid sparrow]

owh, which crusher are you on about then?

i thought the props got an update, including the crusher, in the last update

[limber bear]

here comes the essay

[solid sparrow]

i ain't reading all that

[mossy karma]

privileged lazy ass fella

[quasi yoke]

Holy cow it’s about time.
You’re saying I should get a keyboard. It would be a good solution. With that i will need some tweaking additionally in windows to have an extra step asking everytime I want to open a app, where to open it, like in the « My Summer Car game ». That would be a nice fix.

[solid sparrow]

genuinely

[lament cloud]

the large one

[solid sparrow]

i literally sent you screenshots of amazon listings with wireless keyboard prices, you absolute tosser

[quasi yoke]

I can read your blatant hypocrisy in the other message lol. Anyway

[quasi yoke]

That’s not my currency lol

[limber bear]

oh that's even better

[solid sparrow]

its in us dollars bro, where are you then?

[quasi yoke]

€

[mossy karma]

its $18-40. that is insanely cheap for a keyboard

[solid sparrow]

BRO EURO AND USD ARE BASICALLY THE SAME PRICE STOP BEING DENSE

[mossy karma]

hes just trying to look cool while ragebaiting us
obviously working

[solid sparrow]

granted their economy is fucked, but come on, stop being inbred

[quasi yoke]

Bro I have 15 bucks in my bank account for now

[severe flame]

[solid sparrow]

get a job you spastic

[mossy karma]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[quasi yoke]

I do, paycheck coming next week

[solid sparrow]

then buy a wireless keyboard next week

wait.... aren't you french?

[quasi yoke]

Shh

[solid sparrow]

blocked

[limber bear]

wow. it's a shame that there isn't a converter online for that kind of stuff, so sad.

[knotty tusk]

it all just clicked

[severe flame]

we're both living paycheck to paycheck...
i can feel your pain

[solid sparrow]

if you guys can afford sim rigs, its not that bad

[quasi yoke]

Wow, maybe it’s 2AM and I can’t be bothered to hop on my computer, crazy right

[limber bear]

all it takes is a few taps on your phone you lazy manchild

[knotty tusk]

how are you typing then

[quasi yoke]

(25€ to make my sim rig)

[solid sparrow]

thats enough of that, done with that low iq count conversation

[quasi yoke]

You know something called a phone ? I have 7 of them

[severe flame]

my situation is more like a series of unfortunate events hahaha~
buy a sim rig while still living in the parents house -> move to the dormitories -> parents don't wanna pay for my things anymore😫

[knotty tusk]

iphone 7?

[quasi yoke]

good

[mossy karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078181665890906202/1305539055144013867/togif-24.gif

[quasi yoke]

No 7 phones

[solid sparrow]

.... bro? why move and rely on your parents?

[limber bear]

25 euro + your family feeding you materials for whatever reason

[knotty tusk]

damn so you really got an iphone 7 in 2025

[mossy karma]

7 fucking phones
free sim rig
has a job
pretending to be poor for attention on the internet

[severe flame]

move for schooling

i wouldnt do it for my own choice

but paycheck to paycheck is maybe too much

[solid sparrow]

i understand that, did you have to move to a different city or something far away?

[severe flame]

i'm broke at least

[severe flame]

yeah, i'm in the USA

[mossy karma]

so funny!!!

[limber bear]

fuckass plane

[solid sparrow]

from south korea to america?

[mossy karma]

what if we pinged mods because hes making fun of 9/11

just to get his fuckass out of here

[limber bear]

0/10 ngl they should bomb france and melt down any metals to use for something better

[quasi yoke]

I don’t see any 911 here

Just some propaganda music

[limber bear]

https://tenor.com/view/matiz-gif-647128017610302063

[mossy karma]

literal ragebait

[solid sparrow]

i don't want no french metal, same with india, if you bomb the country, the cloud of sweat and "never showered in my life" is just gonna hover over europe, i live in the netherlands, i don't want to smell the french

[quasi yoke]

At this point I might start actually rage baiting you back

[limber bear]

maybe flood

[mossy karma]

chat should we give this guy the tronydash treatment

[knotty tusk]

water pollution

[limber bear]

my brother in christ, you were ragebaiting the whole fucking conversation

[quasi yoke]

Oh you guys can talk, half of your country is always in France, you guys can’t drive

[solid sparrow]

valid, can we just remove them, alien teleport them to outerspace or something, save the hassle of actually burying/burning the bodies

[limber bear]

just flood and block the water in so it becomes like a humanmade dumping ground

[solid sparrow]

yeeeaaah lets ruin more of our oceans!!

[limber bear]

would love to see that

[limber bear]

no, create an ocean separated from other oceans by huge walls

[quasi yoke]

Idk if the drivers in holland were ever taught blinkers you know, it ain’t that hard

[limber bear]

what

[solid sparrow]

BUILD A WALL!!! spoken like a true american

[limber bear]

a whole ocean away but close enoughg

[solid sparrow]

can we just disintegrate them and get it done with

https://tenor.com/view/dr-heinz-doofenshmirtz-doctor-heinz-doofenshmirts-dr-doofenshmirtz-doctor-doofenshmirtz-heinz-doofenshmirtz-gif-13732052457242158838

[quasi yoke]

the amount of people from the Netherlands in France is actually insane, more NL than FR sometimes. You guys hate your country so much or what 🤣

[limber bear]

go for it mate, what are the french gonna do? outsmart you?

[solid sparrow]

HAHAHA yeah good point

[limber bear]

im not from that country, idfk

[quasi yoke]

No we’re gonna do 🏳️

[solid sparrow]

he said something fucking stupid didn't he? do i dare open the blocked message and get brain rot

[limber bear]

you should just do that right now

[limber bear]

not really stupid, just a missed assumption