#66-70: A 2025 Archive: Hidden Clues

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alpine condor
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This is a thread to discuss hidden clues in December 2025 challenges. 👀 👀 👀

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frail galleon
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So we're just missing the last one right? Assuming that there really is a hidden code of course

alpine condor
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well, it glitches

frail galleon
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I meant if there's an easter egg in general and we're not just seeing things 😂

alpine condor
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If someone found the clue in the first image, and is too lazy cleaning it up, here is a spoiler.

alpine condor
frail galleon
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Found the second one with || a steganography tool and the third one with a spectrogram the fourth one by using forensically|| I have no idea how to find the last one or if the ones I found are correct though

alpine condor
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I think you need spoilers

frail galleon
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I did use the tags. They appear normally for me

trim blade
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can you send the string from the fourth challenge?

alpine condor
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|| 706365626e2e637061763531 ||

trim blade
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thx

frail galleon
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Do the second and third one||start with the same strings? || I think I might have found the last one but it doesn't work so I need to be sure

alpine condor
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the ones i found were the same

frail galleon
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Then I have the last one wrong

trim blade
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yes the third one was similar

alpine condor
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or we have the second one wrong

trim blade
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||742f6c2e69742f752d69396e||

frail galleon
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The solution of second one seems too clean to be wrong 🤔

trim blade
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if you convert it from hex to ascii

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||t/l.it/u-i9n||

frail galleon
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Yeah that's how all of them work

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We're just missing || the last hex code||

trim blade
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i didn't even found the IMO code of the vessel XD

alpine condor
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me too 😭

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these might not be ascii

frail galleon
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it kinda makes sense though if we have to follow a link. Did you find the last one? I'm trying to play with the || colors of the image, contrast, brightness etc ||

trim blade
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maybe something hidden in the metadata?

alpine condor
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am I having a wrong first clue? i don't see a link

frail galleon
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I mean it seems to me that if we unite all of the strings together they will form a link to a file or something

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Or maybe it's not a link at all. In this case it might not be ASCII

frail galleon
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I wonder if the blinking words are part of the solution or just a hint that there's more to this months challenge

alpine condor
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🙂

fiery viper
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Hopefully not prematurely killing a train of thought, ||It doesn't appear to be a Base64 encoded binary file. To start, it would be a very small file, fewer than 100 bytes. Also if you assume the first clue as the start of the file, the decoded start of that clue doesn't match any common "magic numbers" for a binary file.||

frail galleon
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I was thinking about links. Can't they be practically anything? I mean the links to the photos of the challenges are just names so they could be any strings of characters no?

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So far we found ||four hex codes. The first one is a bit longer than the rest. Turning hex to ASCII looks like a link probably because of the \ and . || It could be anything though

frail galleon
trim blade
frail galleon
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Anyways found a cool website though. CyberChef

frail galleon
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Has anyone found the last code?

empty grail
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I see some of you don't even need my hints - you're close. But be ready, there's more to come…

frail galleon
frail galleon
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I think I might have found something playing around with the || RGBA bit planes || but I'm not sure if it's relevant or how to decode it exactly. It does look a bit like || binary code which could be translated to hex I guess || but idk

alpine condor
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@frail galleon ire you mean this?

frail galleon
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Yes

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It kinda looks like|| 0s and 1s doesn't it? Like where there's a blank, 0 and a line for the 1s || but I'm too lazy to convert it 😞

alpine condor
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i think it is || morse code ||

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well, if it is || morse code || it has the right length and digits with e and f.

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the string is || 73686e6567636f7472654f34 ||

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unless I messed it up, so here is an image with decoded string to verify

fiery viper
alpine condor
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well, unhex return ascii printable characters but makes absolutely no sence || h:aglcorec-M4t/lelamrdhnwt/l.it/u-i9npcebn.cpav51shnegcotreO4 ||

alpine condor
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now we need to wait ~10(?) days 🙁

frail galleon
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It was ||Morse code|| indeed. Did we do it?

alpine condor
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yes

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emphasis on "we" !!!!

frail galleon
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That was so much fun. I enjoyed it a lot more than the rest of the challenges

frail galleon
trim blade
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I hope you understand what I mean, I'm not very good at explaining things XD

frail galleon
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Yeah, that's what I'm doing. The ||https|| gave it away lol. But I must be doing something wrong

trim blade
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did you want the || link|| ?

frail galleon
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No nvm I got the second and third codes mixed

trim blade
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I now have 10 days to complete the 70 challenge

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See you on December 15th

alpine condor
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frail galleon
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A new ARG? Maybe the page will change on December 15 and kickstart a new game!

frail galleon
alpine condor
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guess it is too late to update the post cover now 🫣

frail galleon
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The one we have is fine. But I had a wild idea. Probably/hopefully not true. What if we have 164 hours to DECRYPT the archive and after that it will self destruct? What if we shouldn't just wait?

alpine condor
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i don't see anything that hints at downloadable archive

frail galleon
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Maybe nothing to do with downloading. Maybe we need to find a new link. By "Self destruct" I meant maybe the link will disappear but probably we just need to wait.

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There seems to be something in the source code though

frail galleon
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There are ||two
"Archivist Notes". Look Closer and Data Is Always Passing Us By||

royal ridge
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I wonder if there's any significance to the number of flags listed, e.g. ||some base12 type of encoding||. Regardless, it appears there's not much more material to go by at this point in time..

alpine condor
frail galleon
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Nah definitely not

frozen yarrow
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i remember somebody mentioning ||a link provided by a spectogram of one of the chalenges, maybe they refer to looking closer to the challenges themselves?? still new to this stuff sorry if alr considered||

frail galleon
alpine condor
frail galleon
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Ah. The next chapter unlocks next week so we just wait.

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But why are these notes in the source code?

frozen yarrow
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ah mb mb

alpine condor
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@Claire these ?
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// Archivist note: LOOK CLOSER
// Perhaps these will help with the reconstruction.

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frail galleon
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Yes. And one more || data is always passing us by ||

alpine condor
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maybe we need it next week? 🤔

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some flags seem to refer to challenges' locations

frail galleon
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If you're referring to the country codes I think they are just some of the elements that scroll down the screen along with the latin and Greek alphabet. It's been a while since I took programs lessons but I think they are selected randomly for now. Maybe next week they won't be that random. I don't know why they selected these countries though. Maybe that's another clue.

alpine condor
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ye, it looks to me like the symbols are falling down in the background;
but, it also says decrypting archive, and when you decrypt it might be relevant what symbols are used in a plain text

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I don't see anything to compare it to now, so probably a clue for next week.

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actually, it is an archive, it is probably relevant for decompressing too

frail galleon
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Well all I could gather from looking at the code is that || when the bar reaches 100% the message will change to Finalizing integrity checks and will reload constantly? ||

alpine condor
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i think it will change in 10 secs after that

frail galleon
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I think it means it will || reload every 10 seconds no?||

alpine condor
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yep, but the page can be replaced on the server

frail galleon
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Yeah probably it will be replaced or a new link will be added somewhere

empty grail
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Countdown complete… 👀

alpine condor
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neeeeew challenges 👀

royal ridge
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I wonder whether the character set is in any way restricted, or if any Unicode character is allowed in principle (especially relevant because of all these (old) Greek characters)

frail galleon
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I hope so. The Linear B picture is going to be impossible otherwise

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I don't have much time this week but I also wonder whether the differences are all || photoshopped changes or they can also be found in the metadata, like coordinates or time taken for example||

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frail galleon
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alpine condor
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how do you find photoshop edits? I don't get that image forensic stuff 🙁

frail galleon
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I just compare the photo with others I find online of the same area 😂

alpine condor
royal ridge
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Am at 610 'solved' now, of which I'm only absolutely 100% sure of 25 to be completely honest 🙂

frail galleon
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At first I thought the one with the church would be the easiest but it turns out it's probably the hardest

flint schooner
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has anyone gotten it yet?

royal ridge
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For the photo booth, ||strictly speaking, aren't we looking at a 3 char difference rather than 4 char?||

frail galleon
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I'm missing 2 but I'm not sure if I got the rest right. Especially the one with the sign

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I have found the correct location of the ones I'm missing but I can't find recent photos from the correct angle.

I can't find the church and the park (photos 9, 5 I think?)

royal ridge
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yeah those are very tricky indeed, am also still looking for those

frail galleon
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For the booth the characters I found were 4

frail galleon
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Does anyone who has found most want to cross check our answers?

royal ridge
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For the church, I'm fairly certain I know what part is corrupted, but am still on the hunt for the correct 4chars.

frail galleon
royal ridge
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Anyone here happen to live in ||Athens||? 🙂

alpine condor
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they are not all literal, right?

frail galleon
frail galleon
alpine condor
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ok, then no 🙂

alpine condor
frail galleon
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I think maybe we should search independently at first and then compare since we don't really have a way to check our answers. If we find the same answers then probably we're right.

alpine condor
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was not going to put answers there, just "solved, maybe, no"

frail galleon
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Oh ok. I'm just missing 5 and 9. I'm not entirely sure about 12 and 18. Also about 11's format

frail galleon
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@flint schooner found what happens when we get them all right so I guess we can now star collaborating more actively since we do have a way to check our answers.

Bellow is what I have so far. We should cross check our answers and then focus on the ones we don't have yet.

  1. ||haus||
  2. ||50||
  3. ||ε||
  4. ||sra||
  5. ||s||
  6. ||6||
  7. ||K||
  8. ||tarta|| (?)
  9. ||23.7274|| ( format?)
  10. ||Β ΣΥΓΚΕΝΤΡΩΣΗΣ|| (?)
  11. ||Ямбол||
  12. ||ΣΙΛ||
  13. ||ΚΙΑ||
  14. ||9893||
  15. ||Ω||
  16. ||2025 (or 4 spaces? Not sure )|| (?)

About 5. I think we're either looking ||for a graffiti on the second bench or the orientation of the image in the metadata. It was taken at the national archeological museum's garden ||

And 9, || my guess is the date is wrong. The church is ιερόσ ναόσ αγίου νικολάου πευκακίων but I can't find any pictures from the right angle and close enough to see the inscription||

frail galleon
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A typo. 6 is ||s|| I hope we don't need the ||glyph||

frail galleon
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Oh. 16 also has a typo. It should be || 9893|| but I'm not sure about the format again

frail galleon
fiery viper
frail galleon
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You mean for the church? That's interesting

fiery viper
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More that ||if all of the answers are numerals except for the Greek letters, it might be a sign that it's Ionian numerals||.

frail galleon
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So far I found a mix of || Greek, Latin, Cyrillic, Linear B and numerals || But of course I don't know if I have the correct values

royal ridge
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frail galleon
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For 8, I think one of the|| cards is missing a K.|| What did you find?

What about the rest?

2 || the address I think is 50 not 49||
3 || the logo seemed different||
12 || I found some similar signs online|| but I really don't know
16 yeah I don't know how to format this one

royal ridge
frail galleon
royal ridge
# frail galleon For 8, I think one of the|| cards is missing a K.|| What did you find? What abo...

2 ||I believe it's the DOB that's wrong||
3 || I found the edition number of one of the books to be incorrect||
12 ||meeting point vs assembly point. Got there after a few rounds of translation back/forth||
16 || There are different ways of formatting these coordinates, I've looked at different ways and can get to a 4 char solution, but it would not be such that ALL 4 chars are strictly different...||

frail galleon
royal ridge
frail galleon
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Oh, probably it means she || lived there from 1950 not that she was born then||

royal ridge
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yeah

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12 || ΣΥΝΑΡΜΟΛΟΓΗΣΗΣ -> ASSEMBLY (note that your link shows assemPly, and 'my' solution does not require the awkward 'B' addition before the word).||

frail galleon
royal ridge
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frail galleon
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frail galleon
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mask them? I'm not sure I know what you mean

royal ridge
frail galleon
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But I already have it tagged as a spoiler

royal ridge
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Apologies, you have! I didn't see them anymore since I had 'spoiled' them for myself! 🙂

frail galleon
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Ah ok. 😂 That's why I couldn't understand what you were asking me to do

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So, for which ones are we 100% certain so far?

1,2,3,7,8,17?

I'm also pretty sure about 4,13,14,15 but if someone has these too it would be helpful to check them

royal ridge
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Yes, nice find on 13! I agree with that.

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Let me check my notes right now for the others

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The ones I'm 99.9% certain of (can never be 100% with these things ;-)): 2,3,7,8,13,17

frail galleon
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15 is also || most likely correct. The car is KIA not ford I think ||

royal ridge
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I'm not sure what to do with 4. ||The original name was sans rival. Yes, there are 3 (legible) letters left, but in the corrupted version we see 5.|| Do we just ignore that? It's a bit 'meta'

royal ridge
royal ridge
royal ridge
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For 11, it might just be something like ||23.727417, or one less in case we need to include the period||

frail galleon
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For 1, I think the cafe || changed it's name|| but if someone could check it too would be nice. That's why I have || haus ||

frail galleon
royal ridge
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I'm looking into the decrypt function now, and think we may be running into some utf8 encoding issues with the current set of solutions (with placeholder characters for the missing ones for the moment)

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lol the animations are cool

frail galleon
royal ridge
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Thoughts on 10, the Hondos Center?

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Also, I believe it's OK to use the glyph in #6 ❤️‍🔥

frail galleon
# royal ridge Thoughts on 10, the Hondos Center?

This is the address || Pl. Omonias 3, Athina 104 31 ||. I think the word ||TARTA|| directly below 381 has been erased. There's another||word to the left but the building hides it on the photo of the challenge

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royal ridge
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wow nice find, yeah that could be it

royal ridge
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OK I have a theory about #18, which again touches upon my pet peeve of ||although there's a difference, strictly speaking not all 4 are different. It's taken in Nov 2025, so more likely the calendar is for 2026. And also, I've identified the calendar next to it, which is of 2026||

frail galleon
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So I really don't know what the answer should be

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If they're making the ||same designs just for different years it would make sense why they don't have dates on their website and 2026 is indeed the answer we need but none of their calendars has the year on the cover ||

flint schooner
frail galleon
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If ||glyphs|| are accepted then definitely

flint schooner
royal ridge
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For practical purposes, it would really help if we know whether the final concatenated string should indeed be exactly 66 chars in length and/or how we should treat things like periods and 'changes' in dates (e.g. is "2007" --> "2013" a valid 4 char transformation?) @empty grail

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and I guess related whether the answer should consist of consecutive characters found in the originals

royal ridge
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And also, Googling for || ΣΗΜΕΙΟ ΣΥΝΑΡΜΟΛΟΓΗΣΗΣ || yields lots of such signs, whereas Googling for || ΣΗΜΕΙΟ ΣΥΝΑΝΤΗΣΗΣ || yields none 🙂

trim blade
royal ridge
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other way around, you mean? ||As in, '7' is corrupted||

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frail galleon
royal ridge
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While we mull over #5 and #9, what about #14? Curious about what people think

frail galleon
trim blade
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I'm really thinking about buying a plane ticket to Athens

frail galleon
frail galleon
royal ridge
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Re 5, I'm starting to doubt it's to do with ||graffiti||

trim blade
royal ridge
trim blade
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i found a video about the number 9 quality is orrible 🙁 ||https://youtu.be/RsV2ImH_kKw?si=EpwvGxiPxWygTPCy&t=130||

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frail galleon
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I found many videos on YouTube. I couldn't make out the inscription though. It was one that showed it briefly from afar. I think it was from a funeral

frail galleon
frail galleon
frail galleon
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The || shadow|| looks correct to me if I positioned it correctly

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It could be|| around 16:00|| too maybe? I'm having some trouble finding the right angle from which the photo was taken

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frail galleon
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If the||orientation|| theory is correct then the answer should probably be ||18||. The image appears|| straight but it's orientation reads 90° so it was probably 180° originally?|| I'm kinda confused about how this works exactly but I think this is how it was changed

royal ridge
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Yeah but the other photos taken with the same camera have the same ||orientation|| data too

frail galleon
frail galleon
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If we lived in a CSI:New York world we could "enhance" the image 😂

flint schooner
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||they very well could have just painted over it throughout the years, but it looks like you can see a faint O to the left of the current one. The same thing continues for the other characters until you get to the second epsilon. Maybe they photoshopped that? I've been trying to find a copy of the revelations verse in original byzantine/urical script but am coming up short.||

teal tulip
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Hi, im newbie, I think I got the link to the corrupted archive but it doesn’t work, could someone please help, is it normal link or there’s also a puzzle whithin the link? Sorry im being slow

frail galleon
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Yes there is, sort of. You have to figure out how to put them in the right order.

teal tulip
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royal ridge
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Re 9, ||the phrase seems correct. But what if instead of 1999 there used to simply be a reference to the bible verse, i.e. 22:17?||

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I found the exact phrase in ||the Third edition of the Greek New Testament (aka Stephanus 1550)||

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I've also tried to go through ||any available death records to find Χαραλάμπας, ΚΥΖΙΡΙΔΗ||, to no avail

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That ||bible edition|| looks quite impressive btw 🙂

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Re 5, ||regarding the streetlight, perhaps it's just AM -> PM (which would once again violate the assumption that ALL characters in the solution must be perturbed, but if that is not a condition then it could work)||

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Re 9, ||the year 1999 has always looked suspicious to me, especially because at the pixel level some of the 9s look very similar. However, if indeed a condition of a valid solution is that ALL characters must be perturbed, and assuming the 9s are coming from some other position, I don't see a valid perturbation.||

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(I don't think I explained myself very well there)

frail galleon
# royal ridge I've also tried to go through ||any available death records to find Χαραλάμπας, ...

Yeah, me too. I couldn't find anything about his ||death||. There was a Facebook page with ||a young guy going by the same name who uploaded a black square on 2014|| if I remember correctly, but it looks more unrelated than not.

I was pretty sure at first that the ||year|| is what has been changed. It fits given the length of characters. I thought about brute-forcing with every || year between 200-2025|| but without being 100% sure about every other answer it's pointless.

I wonder if what @fiery viper said about|| Greek Ionian numerals|| has something to do with the answer. Like if we need that version of||1999|| which would be||͵ΑϠϞΘ´|| but strictly speaking that's more than 4 characters

frail galleon
frail galleon
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So about the coordinates, does the dot count as a character? And if so, do some of them require more or less decimals?

frail galleon
royal ridge
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I just finally found a satisfactory picture of the central pedestal in #14

royal ridge
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And also finally found the exact location of #12, although it's not exactly high res

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Can at least confirm it's ||a 2 and not a B, and that the Greek word is at least as long as the English 'ASSEMBLY POINT' ||

empty grail
royal ridge
empty grail
# royal ridge For practical purposes, it would really help if we know whether the final concat...

I can confirm that 66 characters appear to be corrupted in the tranche of images I've shared with you.

Corruption takes many forms, if a year was corrupted from 2007 to 2013 with only the last two characters affected, then it would be 2 characters. But if the entire year was corrupted (changes in size, font etc) that could well show up as a 4 character corruption.

For a coordinate following DMS, only the altered characters should be recorded, so ° ' " should be safely ignored.

royal ridge
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(The DMS example suggests the latter is the case, but that would also mean that e.g. a corruption from e.g. 1007 to 2013 would involve 3chars only, assuming no perturbation in size/position/font etc)

empty grail
royal ridge
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oh boy. And, say, 28.20->27.12 counts as a 3 char diff, correct?

royal ridge
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@empty grail Just one more clarifying question: with 8 corrupted characters for #11, there are a very large number of possible solutions that are all approximately equally 'correct'. || if we're talking about GPS coordinates in decimal notation with 6 decimal places, we're looking at placements at around 10cm accuracy. I can imagine getting closer by incorporating e.g. camera/zoom settings, but it's still a bit of a long shot. || Can we assume there is one unequivocal correct answer?

frail galleon
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So is this the correct format? I'm hopeless when it comes to formatting so I'm sharing the correct locations too for those you can handle it better

Statue: ||23433868|| --> coords || https://maps.app.goo.gl/VUZGZCMQ8VLbFrcM9 ||

Phonebooth: ||3759|| --> coords || https://maps.app.goo.gl/9XNj3HX7XU2CJDoL6 ||

Also, do spaces count as characters?and if a change in font also counts, then perhaps for the church we just need || 1999|| ?

royal ridge
frail galleon
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Also, I looked around || Akropolis|| for similar signs. Since we can see a 2 I figured there'd be more of them and I found another one which looks a lot cleaner. I think the Greek word is || ΣΥΓΚΕΝΤΡΩΣΗΣ||

frail galleon
royal ridge
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Excellent sleuthing! But the solution can't be that as it's 12chars?

frail galleon
royal ridge
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yes I found the exact location and it's 2. Perhaps we can find others too (3-8) 😉

frail galleon
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Probably. Also I kinda think there are more letters between the two last Σ. The space between them looks larger I think? So could we be looking for a variation of the word with more letters?

royal ridge
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@frail galleon I found the sign for 12 @ ||37.9718313, 23.7276947||, can you share where you found the other one? I'd like to see if we can find some other ones.

royal ridge
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Re #5, ||the more I look at it, the more I think it could be a corruption in timestamp. I see the shadow going towards the NE which (I think) would indicate that it's in the afternoon. This would also fit with the streetlight being on. HOWEVER, the instructions say that each image is corrupted in exactly 1 way, and this particular corruption would involve changes to both the EXIF metadata and the filename, so that would be two corruptions...||

celest wraith
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Hey everyone! I'm a abit late to the party from the looks of it. I've managed to get the ||embedded link in the pictures, but once I try to access it I get a 404 from Github. Did the website close or am I doing something wrong?|| Thanks

royal ridge
celest wraith
royal ridge
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sure, just make sure to mask for spoilers!

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and can always delete after confirmed

celest wraith
royal ridge
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you are insanely close. But I think you copied over one character incorrectly. Go back and check your input and you'll get it!

celest wraith
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haha, thanks for cheking!

frail galleon
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royal ridge
frail galleon
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Oh I thought you said you found 12

royal ridge
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Here's sign #7 I think, but it's completely illegible

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what doesn't help is that these signs have been up for what seems to be less than a year, so most photo material doesn't even have them 🙂

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OK so I think challenge/photo #9 is really the only one that remains a complete mystery (at least to me)

royal ridge
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Re 12, it's unfortunate that ||https://mysafetyplan.gov.gr/|| is essentially useless. Am also going over academic papers that study optimal evacuation procedures to see if they recommend specific locations for such points, but nothing much came out of that

frail galleon
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The last one is a bit confusing too. The photos I found didn't have the || year || and I don't know if||spaces count as characters||

royal ridge
# frail galleon I was just looking at this and had the same reaction. I think the signs are a re...

yeah but I think it's like you said: ||the publisher just shows a 'vanilla'/undated version, and once there's a big order they customize it for the desired year. We can at least assume that this particular calendar is instantiated for a particular year, and that it is likely going to be at least fairly recent (and perhaps even as 'recent' as 2026, although that is a perhaps unlikely given the discounted(?) price).||

frail galleon
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We should check if the || number on the side corresponds to the size of the image||

royal ridge
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That's the same one I had found before. Doesn't change much, right? Given how the pic was (presumably) taken recently.

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ΗΜΕΡΟΛΟΓΙΟ ΤΟΙΧΟΥ 21Χ29 ΜΕ ΤΟΠΙΑ ΤΗΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΑΣ ΝΕΟ ΜΕ 16 ΣΕΛΙΔΕΣ , ΜΕΓΑΛΥΤΕΡΟ ΧΩΡΟ ΣΗΜΕΙΩΣΕΩΝ , ΑΝΑΛΥΤΙΚΟ ΕΡΤΟΛΟΓΙΟ ΠΕΡΙΕΧΕΙ 16 ΦΥΛΛΑ 2 ΜΗΝΕΣ ΤΟΥ ΤΡΕΧΟΝΤΟΣ ΕΤΟΥΣ , 12 ΜΗΝΕΣ ΤΟΥ ΕΠΟΜΕΝΟΥ ΕΤΟΥΣ ΚΑΙ 2 Τ...

frail galleon
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Yeah, I think the second calendar has || the correct barcode for it's dimensions||. I really hope it's not about the ||name of the street|| because I really can't make it out in the photo to compare it with the store's

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I'm contemplating whether I should create a fake account to check the price of the cat calendar. I don't really want to 😢

royal ridge
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Kiosk price will be different though, so no real point. I'm mostly thinking it's ||not 2026 because of how weathered the price label looks||

frail galleon
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Yeah but we could see if it's on discount

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I mean they wouldn't sell it at a lower price if it were new

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Regarding the sign. I think we need || half the Greek word and half the English one || The Greek one has ||some letters that are the same || but I think the English one seems a bit different in the picture I sent

royal ridge
frail galleon
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I've also uploaded the calendar picture on || forensically ||. I'm not entirely sure how their error analysis tool works but it seems that something has been changed.

royal ridge
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Almost looks like ||2026->2025||

frail galleon
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Yeah. ||5 seems to be what's changed||

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We should make an updated list of the answers soon

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Once we clarify how the coordinates should be formatted

royal ridge
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The calendar ||(and price tag!) looks so poorly/weathered though, and combined with the low price I have a hard time believing it would indeed be for 2026, so 2024 might be more likely after all. (then again, perhaps it is indeed 2026 but just discounted because it's in bad shape lol||

royal ridge
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...||file on the publisher site says it was uploaded in 2025, and it also lists the calendar as 'NEW', suggesting it came into existence this year. So then it must be 2026, and this particular instance of the calendar is just discounted cause of the poor condition it's in.|| Although it violates the 'strict' interpretation of character corruption, my guess for the solution of this one is therefore... ||2026|| after all.

frail galleon
frail galleon
royal ridge
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It occurred to me it may be a good idea to at least map the locations of these assembly points, as it may make it easier to find the others. For instance, points 7 and 9 are quite close together, suggesting that 8 may be inbetween them

frail galleon
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Yes! That would make sense. The only problem is that they were installed in 2025 it seems

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This is what we have so far right?
1.||haus||
2.||50||
3.||ε||
4.||sra||
5.||16|| (?)
6.||𐀯||
7.||6||
8.||2||
9.
10.||TARTA||
11.||23433868|| ( format?)
12.||ΣΥΓΚΕΝΤΡΩΣΗΣ||
13.||Ямбол||
14.||ΣΙΛ||
15.||ΚΙΑ||
16. ||759||
17.||Ω||
18.||2026|| (?)

royal ridge
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Yes that's it. Except that personally I am still working with ||ΣΥΝΑΡΜΟΛΟΓΗΣΗΣ|| for 12 (despite your very valid concerns about that).

frail galleon
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We need to find a clear picture for 12

royal ridge
frail galleon
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What I'm hoping is that there aren't any changes in fonts. Because if the letters themselves are the same but the font is slightly different and it still counts as a change then I don't think I'll be able to find it

frail galleon
royal ridge
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Re photo number 9 (church) I have a nagging feeling that ||while it is indeed the date/year, it may be a very recent one (2000+)||

frail galleon
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At~ 2:30 you can see sign No 9

royal ridge
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lol that is exactly what I did for hours yesterday: go through walkthrough videos on youtube 🙂

frail galleon
royal ridge
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haha I love how the guy in your video is actually tapping on the sign and having his pic taking with it! It's exaclty the type of footage we would need 🙂

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That's a bit better!

frail galleon
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I know right? It's as if he knows what we're doing 🤣

royal ridge
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still looks like 12 chars tho

frail galleon
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Yeah I know. It's definitely|| ΣΥΓΚΕΝΤΡΩΣΗΣ|| I can't read the English word though. Maybe it's slightly different too?

royal ridge
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That's possible, maybe he's pointing out ||a silly typo?||

frail galleon
frail galleon
royal ridge
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Oh wow, about as clear as it gets. Great find.

royal ridge
royal ridge
royal ridge
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So there could still be differences with the one shown in the original photo assignment

royal ridge
empty grail
# royal ridge Or have <@1440681563988951201> tell us there has been a terrible mistake and the...

There has been a terrible mistake.

You are right that the intended solution ||ΣΥΝΑΡΜΟΛΟΓΗΣΗΣ|| has ||14|| characters, but is ultimately incorrect because the original sign has ||12|| characters ||ΣΥΓΚΕΝΤΡΩΣΗΣ||.

I have fixed the archive so it should ask for 12 characters now.

You will definitely get a special mention in dispatches for not only noticing the mistake, but finding the correct answer and the mistaken answer.

I can't apologize enough for this mistake!

frail galleon
frail galleon
empty grail
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Appreciate @frail galleon and @royal ridge for calling this out! DId anyone else help point this out? (adding a special mention to the site)

frail galleon
empty grail
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Once again, my sincere apologies for these errors!

royal ridge
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Ok so what we have now is:
1: ||haus||
2: ||50||
3: ||ε||
4: ||SRA||
5: ||16|| (?)
6: ||𐀯||
7: ||6||
8: ||2||
9: ||absolutely no idea!||
10: ||TARTA||
11: ||23433868|| (or some slight variation or different encoding of that)
12: ||ΣΥΓΚΕΝΤΡΩΣΗΣ|| ❤️‍🔥
13: ||Ямбол||
14: ||ΣΙΛ||
15: ||KIA||
16: ||759||
17: ||Ω||
18: ||2026|| (?)

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I went outside for a bit today and all I saw was Greek characters (note, in reality there were none) 😄

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We're getting close! For 9, the only thing I can think of is || the date ||. I don't know if I have been staring at it for way too long and I started seeing things but I noticed something||on the bottom left too. Probably the artist signature || but I can't make it out

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Interesting. But regardless of whether it's that or the ||year||, we don't have a good enough view of the thing, unfortunately

frail galleon
# royal ridge Interesting. But regardless of whether it's that or the ||year||, we don't have ...

Yeah. I wonder if the best thing right now would be to verify Numbers 5 and 18 and then "brute force" the ||date||.

Re 5, I'm getting more and more convinced that the ||hour|| is what has been changed. Your observation about the|| street lamp|| was spot on. The only problem is I'm not confident that I got the right ||time using suncalc||. We could also try to || map the journey of the photographers to see if being at the park at 9 makes sense. We have timestamps for many of the locations||

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It seems that the photos taken on || Nov. 10 (excluding 5) were all taken between 17:01 and 18:26 except number 15 which was taken at 12:02||. So probably 5 was also || taken around that time||? We probably need || 18 || though because of || time zones||. Does this count as 2 changes?

royal ridge
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hmm interesting. I had already mapped all (well, most) of the photo locations to see if there were any patterns, but had not yet related it to the dates/times.

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Looking at the dates/times of the file(name)s, it appears that photo 18 was also taken around there. I wonder if this is the stall! (not that it helps a lot)

frail galleon
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Nice find!! I think you're right about the calendar being || on discount because of it's condition||. I can see ||wrapped calendars behind it|| But if the answer is||2026|| wouldn't this mean again that the characters we need are not|| 4 but 1?||

royal ridge
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yep. unless it's a different ||font||

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Note that we're also not quite yet sure about 11

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at least I'm not

frail galleon
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Yeah, I was going to mention that. We need to figure out the correct format because technically some || characters are still the same right? It's 2 19 38.79 vs 2343386*. || And I think the final char is || 5 || after all.

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Like no matter how you write it, at least one character remains the same AND at the same spot. Example:

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02193879
23433865

or

21938790
23433865

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royal ridge
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yep

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and note that it could be ||DMS or decimal notation||

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Oh, I just spotted a potential error with the decryption check

frail galleon
royal ridge
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I just re-read the note by the Archivist, and I had been thinking about their remark of 'no second guessing'; of course that was intentional! lol

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That suggests that the solution for 11 could be ||37582343|| (again, not even nearly all corruptions, but it would fit their remarks)

frail galleon
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Maybe the last character of the || latitude is also wrong ||

royal ridge
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Not sure I follow

frail galleon
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The Archivist also said that "where there's latitude and longitude they should be specified in that order"

royal ridge
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To my earlier remark about a potential error, I just want to check with @empty grail :
Are you absolutely positive we're looking for "CORRUPTED_ARCHIVE_RESTORED_8dh36rhhjy31tu45" as the decrypted message (INCLUDING quotes!) and not CORRUPTED_ARCHIVE_RESTORED_8dh36rhhjy31tu45 (without quotes)? Because the former is currently being used, and that seems a bit odd

frail galleon
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Oh you mean after we find all of the answers

frail galleon
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No second guessing could also mean that we got it right

royal ridge
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Yeah but not in the context of the rest of their sentence I think

trim blade
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Hi, I didn't follow the challenge much over the weekend. Any important updates?

frail galleon
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Also, is No 5 corrupted in 2 ways? || Both the file name and the exit data ||?

frail galleon
trim blade
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I'll try to reread the chat and catch up

royal ridge
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I got it!

frail galleon
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You found 9??

royal ridge
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got it all 😄

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Already knew what the animations would look like upon completion (they're really cool), but it was great to see it 'as intended'

royal ridge
frail galleon
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What's the answer then? Did we have any of the others wrong too?

royal ridge
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yeah

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So we were not sure about 5, 11, 18. And of course 9 was a complete mystery.

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For 5, I extended the search range slightly (also because of your remark re timezone) and that ended up being ||15||

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For 11, I do think it is a bit misleading / incorrect in the sense that the solution contains mostly uncorrupted characters: ||37582343||

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For 18 it was indeed ||2026||

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And 9... oh boy. I realized that if it would indeed be a 'full' 4 char corruption, then it could not be ||19xx||. So I tried ||2000+|| only and it ended up being ||2006||

royal ridge
frail galleon
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Congrats on getting it right!! 🎉

royal ridge
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Congrats to you, too! This was fun

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(and I agree a bit frustrating w.r.t. formatting)

royal ridge
frail galleon
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Could be yeah. So local time ||17|| not ||18|| makes sense

royal ridge
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(but yeah, like you said, that does mean ||there were two corruptions there...||)

frail galleon
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Exactly. Assuming of course the ||time|| was the corruption but it fits besides this detail

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We made a good team!

royal ridge
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And thanks a lot to @empty grail / @glass wind / @amber fulcrum etc for organizing all of this!

frail galleon
amber fulcrum
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Wooo! YOU DID IT!!! So exciting to follow you solve these puzzles, it was hard to keep up! What a great team. Hope you enjoyed working on these 🙌 🇬🇷

glass wind
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HOORAY! Congratulations 🎉🎉 Well done on getting it all and navigating the myriad imprecisions!

trim blade
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Completed, what a great challenge, I can't wait to try the new ones in February

flint schooner
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out of curiosity since you are the creators @amber fulcrum @glass wind looking back on all the challenges from the year, which one would you say was the most difficult?

trim blade
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I didn't do them all, personally the most complicated ones were numbers 55 and 70

frail galleon
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Personally, I haven't been able to solve only one throughout the year so I'm guessing that's the hardest one for me.

Door to Nowhere

glass wind
# flint schooner out of curiosity since you are the creators <@1196446165663756369> <@23717009186...

I think 'Door To Nowhere' takes it for overall difficulty, despite being conceptually straightforward.

For the challenges we often check that the solution path feels possible and might contain some useful or interesting skills or tools. Trying to make them possible is part of the editing process.

But for Door to Nowhere we checked that imagery was available on street view and left the checking there. Consequently there was very little to go on!

I think Hopping Around takes second place for difficulty for similar reasons!

But ultimately that's been one of my learnings over the last year - the difficulty of a challenge is extremely subjective based on people's knowledge of different topics, tools and approaches.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts on the challenges though (we even have a feedback form on the Corrupted Archive completion page... 👀). Particularly interesting would be ideas/types of puzzle that we haven't seen yet, or topics that we haven't included or are underrepresented!

amber fulcrum
frail galleon
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I've spent two days trying to see if there's a hidden message in the video. Now I'm suspicious of everything.

frail galleon
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Who knows?

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@glass wind Maybe we should have a separate thread to discuss this

amber fulcrum
# alpine condor <@237170091861475329> Maybe we should have a separate thread to discuss this

We can open one but I think using the feedback form will be most effective. I'll share it here, and in the next newsletter as well so you don't just get access to it when you have solved the archivist challenge! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdv5QcWke5GOu6GT3ZyOdb6BmfMncDwDLk_9cwckJ25cQ8f9A/viewform?usp=sharing&ouid=109837718843509998774

tacit socket
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I was so gutted I lost internet for over a week at the release of the Archive challenges 😓 going to try to catch up from that point now