Since it seems like this is a growing situation which neither totally fits in #1036758130761158677 or #usa-canada or #1330709161385922650, this is a dedicated forum post to gather information about the details of Elon Musk + Allies growing control of various US Federal Government IT Systems.
#Elon Coup
maiden loom
sharp flax
i think we shall all agree to post stuff about the coup in either the trump or elon thread, not create yet another one as it's already kinda all over the place
glad sleet
Maybe all protests can go here?
sharp flax
good idea
maiden loom
i think we shall all agree to post stuff about the coup in either the trump or e...
Hmh. I think the specific actions of Elon (aided by Trump) are worthy of gathering seperately, as they kind of don't fit the more general vibe of #1036758130761158677
foggy cove
essentially an anti-elon protest outside the US treasury https://bskye.app/profile/alvarezreports.bsky.social/post/3lhf4ykzuuc2m
maiden loom
Maybe all protests can go here?
So maybe protests + reporting / leaks about what Elon is doing inside Government systems?
foggy cove
essentially an anti-elon protest outside the US treasury https://bskye.app/profi...
I guess this sort of thing goes here? hard to tell what belongs in discussion vs coup
I'll take it out of discussion if this is going to be the elon protest zone
sharp flax
I guess this sort of thing goes here? hard to tell what belongs in discussion vs...
i think our discussion of what we find on the goons that were publicly named can go here too
i do agree that it kinda flooded the more news oriented threads
glad sleet
So maybe protests + reporting / leaks about what Elon is doing inside Government...
yeah this sounds good to me
maiden loom
Brief recap:
Multiple Democratic US congress people went to the treasury:
https://bsky.app/profile/maxwellfrost.bsky.social/post/3lhezin3yhs2t
They planned to go inside but were denied entry so they held a rallye outside.
Afaik the rallye has ended but people are still there
Bluesky
maiden loom
https://bsky.app/profile/taniel.bsky.social/post/3lhf7pgjn2k26
We already discussed this earlier, and it could be the case that this could also affect the US Judiciary, who although independant, cooperate with the GSA for their courthouses.
OPM lawsuit against the Server Elon Musk plugged in is underway:
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lhfbjadswc2o
split bear
https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-gsa-terminate-office-leases-f8faac5e203872...
After they just implemented an RTO policy?? What a joker
maiden loom
After they just implemented an RTO policy?? What a joker
Musk is doing the samething as he did with Twitter.
split bear
Because that worked so well for everyone /s
maiden loom
Because that worked so well for everyone /s
Musk simply stopped paying leases and contracters at Twitter. He said he wants to do the same now. Wonder when he will do it
maiden loom
The buyouts are Musks idea, so I’m posting here:
https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lhfiwyaka22a
maiden loom
More data vanishing
https://bsky.app/profile/peaseroland.bsky.social/post/3lhgcgygn222h
maiden loom
That’s from yesterday, might be misleading to post now
sharp flax
my bad deleting
flat cargo
maiden loom
EDIT: THIS POST WAS MISLEADING, the vote was called on short notice and he didnt make it in time, so deleted the link, see post two replies down
maiden loom
not sure if this was published before:
https://bsky.app/profile/wsj.com/post/3lhgxuvasyb27
maiden loom
EDIT: THIS POST WAS MISLEADING, the vote was called on short notice and he didnt...
Previous post was misleading, up to date info:
https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3lhgy3e22tk2c
maiden loom
Previous post was misleading, up to date info:
https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouth...
@sharp python @wooden steeple
sharp python
<@419263013342674944> <@242660137087664138>
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severe mortar
More data vanishing
https://bsky.app/profile/peaseroland.bsky.social/post/3lhg...
I suspect climate.gov is going to be gone soon. Going to bluesky now to see if they’ve taken down the NOAA Climate Bluesky account yet
Still up. As is climate.gov. If anyone hasn’t archived that website, it needs to be done. I don’t know how that works though.
thick edge
severe mortar
maiden loom
Seems like several small protests are plopping up, a thread with some locations:
https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3lhh46whogc2l
maiden loom
DISCLAIMER: This claim has not been substantiated with any Evidence and may be false (please post if you see something)
https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lhh5njc2w222
young thunder
DISCLAIMER: This claim has not been substantiated with any Evidence and may be f...
What's the evidence of delayed payments?
rocky slate
It's been almost 2 hours since she posted that and there have been no updates or any other outlets covering it. She has said she's working on it... guess we wait and see if more appears.
https://bsky.app/profile/hollytaylorhltheco.bsky.social/post/3lhh5rnb2ns2h
young thunder
Yeah there should be either an organization willing to say they're not receiving payments or some kind of screenshot/data.
maiden loom
What's the evidence of delayed payments?
No further info. Should have waited with posting that
Bluesky
severe mortar
nocturne raven
https://www.wired.com/story/edward-coristine-tesla-sexy-path-networks-doge/ "One of the companies Coristine founded, Tesla.Sexy LLC, was set up in 2021, when he would have been around 16 years old. Coristine is listed as the founder and CEO of the company, according to business records reviewed by WIRED.
Tesla.Sexy LLC controls dozens of web domains, including at least two Russian-registered domains. One of those domains, which is still active, offers a service called Helfie, which is an AI bot for Discord servers targeting the Russian market.
While the operation of a Russian website would not violate US sanctions preventing Americans doing business with Russian companies, it could potentially be a factor in a security clearance review."
maiden loom
This might be a issue.
Aviators and seaman depend on NOAAs information to judge risks and stay safe.
https://bsky.app/profile/wired.com/post/3lhhtp2e6kb26
Bluesky
maiden loom
https://bsky.app/profile/bubbaprog.lol/post/3lhk3vsrb5k2l
These guys are not Mall cops, more like Blackwater.
maiden loom
These guys are not Mall cops, more like Blackwater.
Wait these guys are black water
Of course could be that they were contracted for security, not paid by Musk.
reef notch
Here's a rundown. Grey Dynamics is a London-based private intelligence firm.
Triple Canopy have a lot of contracts with the US gov, seems totally possible that guard was already employed there
Technically a distinct business unit from Academi (fka Blackwater), but both are owned by the same parent company in Constellis
flat cargo
Wait so not only are they not official government security, they’re owned by a foreign government?
reef notch
Here you can see records of contracts with Triple Canopy from 2021 for security in the Federal Triangle Complex, where the EPA office is located
https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70RFP221FREC00034_7001_70RFP218DEC000018_7001
flat cargo
Or did I misunderstand
reef notch
I think Constellis is american, the website I linked is London-based
flat cargo
Oh I gotcha.
This might be too much speculation for this channel, but one of my MANY concerns is whether Elon and his cronies are so entrenched in our systems that they could basically hold the government hostage if trump tries to kick him out
Also can’t remember if this was already posted but yikes https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/musk-doge-ai-government-efficiency-safeguards
Had that to the pile of probably felony level security violations
maiden loom
Here you can see records of contracts with Triple Canopy from 2021 for security ...
Thanks for digging this up, that definitely clears things up
flat cargo
Hold up let me actually find a link to this article to make sure it’s legit
Nevermind I think that was satire. Apologies
maiden loom
This might be too much speculation for this channel, but one of my MANY concerns...
Reporting so far seems to show that they basically have added backdoors to government systems.
That is pretty bad in many ways and opens the possibility of this.
flat cargo
Pretty bad in many ways is certainly a way to describe this whole situation
thick edge
livid obsidian
https://archive.is/7QvSF Mark Elez quite, he was the one with access to the Treasury
devout roost
I wonder if anyone has closed that access hole.
foggy cove
The White House wouldn't comment directly on Coristine's employment, but an official who discussed the situation on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters said all DOGE staffers under Musk were working as employees of relevant agencies with security clearances. Their employment is in compliance with federal law and they are not outside advisers, the official said.
I don't know how feasible the DOGE staffers actually having security clearances is (it feels very unlikely to me, but only based on the people I've known who've gone through the process)
sharp flax
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-07/musk-s-doge-teen-was-fired-by...
wow, that confirms the review on trustpilot i had found here
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/packetware.net
foggy cove
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-07/musk-s-doge-teen-was-fired-by...
I’d guess their access token stuff is blocking it - w/o an access token no preview, with one it was used in some individual's browser so gets tagged
young thunder
wow, that confirms the review on trustpilot i had found here
https://www.trustpi...
Nice open source find
sharp flax
Nice open source find
thank you 🥹
young thunder
thank you 🥹
I'm obsessed with user reviews on stuff like trip advisor (people get mad when they get kicked out of hotels to house mercenaries instead)
sharp flax
I'm obsessed with user reviews on stuff like trip advisor (people get mad when t...
oh, that's smart! yes it does seem like a very good source of info since it's also timestamped most of the time
sharp flax
hey this was already posted scroll up a little bit
subtle fog
welp, search failed me - apologies
shrewd lava
This one is going to be an interesting case to follow.
How far they are willing to go to cover "one of their own" and how much they value opportunism over integrity.
foggy cove
wow, that confirms the review on trustpilot i had found here
https://www.trustpi...
more on path networks
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/
The founder of Path is a young man named Marshal Webb. I wrote about Webb back in 2016, in a story about a DDoS defense company he co-founded called BackConnect Security LLC. On September 20, 2016, KrebsOnSecurity published data showing that the company had a history of hijacking Internet address space that belonged to others.
Less than 24 hours after that story ran, KrebsOnSecurity.com was hit with the biggest DDoS attack the Internet had ever seen at the time. That sustained attack kept this site offline for nearly 4 days.
The other founder of BackConnect Security LLC was Tucker Preston, a Georgia man who pleaded guilty in 2020 to paying a DDoS-for-hire service to launch attacks against others.
…
According to that record, Path founder Marshal Webb dismissed Coristine for making it known that one of its technicians was a Canadian man named Curtis Gervais who was convicted in 2017 of perpetrating dozens of swatting attacks and fake bomb threats — including at least two attempts against our home in 2014.
…
The trouble with all this is that even if someone sincerely intends to exit The Com after years of consorting with cybercriminals, they are often still subject to personal attacks, harassment and hacking long after they have left the scene.
That’s because a huge part of Com culture involves harassing, swatting and hacking other members of the community. These internecine attacks are often for financial gain, but just as frequently they are perpetrated by cybercrime groups to exact retribution from or assert dominance over rival gangs.
…
Given the speed with which Musk’s DOGE team was allowed access to such critical government databases, it strains credulity that Coristine could have been properly cleared beforehand. After all, he’d recently been dismissed from a job for allegedly leaking internal company information to outsiders.
they sound a lot spicier in this writeup than was casually apparent
foggy cove
more on path networks
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-tea...
more on that group https://cyberscoop.com/the-com-764-cybercrime-violent-crime-fbi-intellignce-report/
restive crown
https://web.archive.org/web/20241124181237/http://colekillian.com/ archived copy of doge guy's site is gone. someone dmca'd archive.org or something
keen cargo
I've found the personal Discord and Steam account of one of the younger DOGE staffers. Unsure how ethical it is to share but it was suprisingly easy to get.
Also unsure what to do with this information lol
maiden loom
https://web.archive.org/web/20241124181237/http://colekillian.com/ archived copy...
Archive.org will remove your personal information/content if you request it.
Includes things like posts or even entire websites.
brave seal
Archive.org will remove your personal information/content if you request it.
In...
Yep. Alternate resource for saving pages for OSINT is to use Zotero as a repository for page grabs. Designed for academic s for research, annotations and bibliographies, it will save HTML copies of pages with date stamps,. If you save a lot (like I do) you may need to link to a cloud server like DropBox etc., or pay for their internal storage but its worthwhile if you need proof that something existed at a specific date/time and it isn't likely to disappear at a moment's notice because someone is scrubbing their internet footprint.
maiden loom
more on that group https://cyberscoop.com/the-com-764-cybercrime-violent-crime-f...
They have gotten people killed. Not to mention lives ruined.
If you think sim swapping is bad, imagine handing them the keys to US government data
https://bsky.app/profile/garethwatkins.bsky.social/post/3lhnvp62l5s2c
Kind of insane how everything MAGA promised to fight against, they have now enabled.
young thunder
I've found the personal Discord and Steam account of one of the younger DOGE sta...
I'll ping the Bellingcat staff and see if they have any interest in it. Please don't share it here for now. Thanks!
storm halo
Also unsure what to do with this information lol
Feel free to DM it to me.
storm halo
more on path networks
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-tea...
Not every section of "The Com"/COM/The Community/Community groups is a "Satanic-Neo-Nazi-Pedophile-Sextortion Ring"- Hopefully people can understand this.
foggy cove
https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/113969821837286891
"interim" clearances
subtle fog
Bluesky
subtle fog
foggy cove
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-recruiting-palantir/
archived https://archive.ph/oegpY
subtle fog
subtle fog
sharp flax
nocturne raven
Can we, like, remove the quote marks from the forum post title?
maiden loom
Elon Coup
maiden loom
Can we, like, remove the quote marks from the forum post title?
removed!
maiden loom
<@281478768168665088> since you're the OP I think
FYI, Admins should be able to edit post / thread titles (if the correct permissions are set)
young thunder
FYI, Admins should be able to edit post / thread titles (if the correct permissi...
yes! but we encourage the community to handle as much as possible
(eg, this is why I might tell someone how to figure something out vs doing it for them)
we also don't know why the quotes were used and prefer you to agree or disagree with the request
foggy cove
linking video of ethan shaotran (one of the doge people) so it’s in thread #1036758130761158677 message
maiden loom
rotund harbor
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czrljmzyz7xo.amp
I'm honestly shocked this is their next supposed target. They should encounter significant congressional resistance but who knows what happens at this point.
maiden loom
maiden loom
maiden loom
ionic junco
404 have a thing: https://www.404media.co/federal-judge-orders-cdc-fda-to-bring-back-web-pages-before-midnight/
maiden loom
subtle fog
maiden loom
maiden loom
maiden loom
https://bsky.app/profile/dburbach.bsky.social/post/3lhwyria3jc2x
Trump is making Elon a sort of “Prime minister”, but it’s illegal in multiple ways
brave seal
https://bsky.app/profile/pkafka.bsky.social/post/3lhw7hugtds23
Wayback version: https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-staff-list-white-house-2025-2
maiden loom
severe lotus
X
maiden loom
Today is a bad day for US democracy
fluid ether
does anything like this exist?
something like this would be epic (i dont code and also wish something like this existed)
flat cargo
Today is a bad day for US democracy
They’ve all been bad days
I just learned that fucking gorka is back
reef rampart
Sebastian Gorka??
For the uninitiated, who dis?
maiden loom
They’ve all been bad days
It’s accelerating
flat cargo
For the uninitiated, who dis?
He’s a big ol fash who a big fan of Hungary and worked with Newsmax
He was a White House strategist in the first administration
reef rampart
He was a White House strategist in the first administration
Ty
flat cargo
Now he’s a big national security guy and that’s terrifying
Along with all the other terrifying things
reef rampart
Now he’s a big national security guy and that’s terrifying
It seems like the 17th most terrifying thing at this point
maiden loom
The first month is not even over and they are already abandoning Europe and Ukraine.
Not even mentioning them tearing down separation of powers with the help of the republican US congress.
flat cargo
Yeah I’m definitely concerned about my job and I haven’t had a single positive response to any of my applications
Anyway, that’s off topic. But yeah it’s chaos
young thunder
While watching the news coverage of Steve Bannon’s initial appearance in federal court on Monday, I kept thinking about his 2018 confession to the acclaimed writer Michael Lewis. His quote is like a compass that orients this crazy era of American politics. “The Democrats don’t matter,” Bannon told Lewis. “The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with shit.”
This infamous Steve Bannon quote is key to understanding America’s crazy politics
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/16/media/steve-bannon-reliable-sources
Old article about what they're doing
flat cargo
Yup. I’ve been having that conversation with a lot of my friends. Like three of my friends on the same day were in fights with their moms because they’ve been sucked in my the constant stream of fear mongering
I don’t think my mom has ever actually met a trans person and she is TERRIFIED
shy comet
Of trans people? Or for trans people? I literally have both in my family, and I'm trans.
shrewd lava
This infamous Steve Bannon quote is key to understanding America’s crazy politic...
Bannon's playbook is straight from Orwell. Journalism is a counter-power to be destroyed by any mean necessary.
"Flood the zone with shit" aligned them with Putin. Throw as much shit at the wall and see what stick, destroy the truth so you decide what's real and dodge any accountability.
Today in Russia "neonazis in Kyiv" holds more truth than "Poisoning by radioactive tea".
Fact-checking is a trap, it will always be slower and get less coverage than the unending flow of shit.
Educating people is a lost cause as most dont come online to confront their ideas but confort them, headlines from Fox News are designed to let them call AP fake news.
The only efficient answer is to remove them from public discourse, but they won that round when no one pushed back on their definition of "free speech".
fluid ether
gist: Seizing congressional oversight of government spending and programs enacted by statute and handing them to an automated system would be the first sign that the AI coup is complete. It would signal the transition from democratic governance to technocratic automatism, in which the engineers determine how to co-opt Congressional funding toward the goals of the executive branch. Refusing to share insight into the system's outputs — deferring to a combination of security or even commercial concerns and myths of "black box" neural networks — would shield it from any real scrutiny by Congress.
suggests the AI coup can be defeated: The AI coup emerged not just from the union of Donald Trump and Elon Musk. It is born of practices and beliefs now standard among Silicon Valley ideologues that are obscure to most Americans. However, the tech industry's weakness is that it has never understood the emotional and social complexity of actual human beings.
Much of what I describe above assumes a passive public, a compliant bureaucracy, and a do-nothing Congress. It assumes that operating in a legal gray area is a way to evade judicial oversight. This tactic is well-known in Silicon Valley, where technical innovation is increasingly rare, but regulatory evasion is common.
vapid hedge
The only efficient answer is to remove them from public discourse, but they won ...
So...is there any real solution to this?
shrewd lava
Rules against trolls and bots, enforced by moderators with no patience for them. Just look at this Discord server.
turbid ibex
Discord(ant) States of America?
flat cargo
Of trans people? Or for trans people? I literally have both in my family, and I'...
sorry, of trans people. I've tried everything to get her to see things another way and it's like banging my head against a wall.
What's wild is that I'm a govie and I have coworkers who think everything that's happening is good. Like nothing will convince them to the contrary.
lucid hollow
The doge.gov server is running off an unsecured database.
https://www.404media.co/anyone-can-push-updates-to-the-doge-gov-website-2/
flat cargo
I fucking hate that they’re bringing the R Word back
maiden loom
We already discussed this earlier, and it could be the case that this could also...
In addition Doge just dumped employment / spending data on the US government to its website.. including for an intelligence agency.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-doge-posts-classified-data_n_67ae646de4b0513a8d767112
National Reconnaissance Office, the federal agency that designs, builds and maintains U.S. intelligence satellites. Not only are NRO’s budgets and head counts classified, but the prospect of Musk’s tech team meddling in sensitive personnel information is setting off alarms for some in the intelligence community.
flat cargo
Cooooool
tardy gull
||https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961?mx=2||
Ouch, that community note has to hurt
young thunder
||https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961?mx=2||
Would you mind spoilering this because it contains a slur and giving a warning. That's always been a slur here on the server, and Elon might be excited to say it, but we're gonna be decent here. Thanks
thick edge
Oh 404 media already reported on this https://www.404media.co/dei-waste-gov-doge-list-behind-password/
reef rampart
Would you mind spoilering this because it contains a slur and giving a warning. ...
Apologies
subtle fog
https://bsky.app/profile/benzipperer.org/post/3li65kdwkhs2y
https://economic.github.io/federal_workforce/
maiden loom
In addition Doge just dumped employment / spending data on the US government to ...
Seems like the article is misleading, the headcount’s were already public on an OPM website no one visited
https://bsky.app/profile/pwnallthethings.bsky.social/post/3li64rv4orc2i
fluid ether
silk flax
Ouch, that community note has to hurt
The note is now gone. Maybe it hurt a little too much...
tardy gull
The note is now gone. Maybe it hurt a little too much...
Interesting. He has claimed in a deposition that community notes are there to correct false information and he welcomes it on his posts as well as everyone else's
If anybody has a screenshot of the post with the note that would be great
subtle fog
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/15/doge-fire-federal-employees-trump-dei/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2025/doge-playbook-dei-trump/
subtle fog
thick edge
foggy cove
previously on gavin kliger #1330709161385922650 message https://bskye.app/profile/twlldun.bsky.social/post/3lic2x56dvk24
subtle fog
frank plume
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aribnb-elon-musk-d...
This Founder mode text is supposedly inspired by ideas of a different Airbnb founder. Musk gets mentioned at the end as reading drafts of it: https://www.paulgraham.com/foundermode.html
subtle fog
vague kite
Looks like someone is worried about whistleblowers.
worldly thorn
This account has a few interesting threads: https://bsky.app/profile/dogginglover.bsky.social Re: Christopher Stanley, Mike Benz and the DOGE kiddos.
Bluesky
fluid ether
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQmoQEeNYrs oldie but a goodie; provides a lot of context behind everything happening here
maiden loom
https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3lievk4vwyc2f
elon musk now has access to IRS taxpayer information
foggy cove
National Park employee purge
https://imginn.com/p/DGIfyW3NUdE
https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2025/02/how-national-park-service-fired-1000-workers
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/15/us/politics/national-park-service-firings.html (non-paywalled https://archive.ph/T9w0V)
subtle fog
(13-page PDF https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25537868/edmossord021725.pdf) https://fixupx.com/joshgerstein/status/1891694256110153973
fluid ether
https://nitter.poast.org/ElkeSchwarz/status/1886187385899102225#m https://opiniojuris.org/2025/01/30/conjuring-the-end-techno-eschatology-and-the-power-of-prophecy/
reminder that https://nitter.poast.org/davetroy is the best journalist/researcher on this in the world and you should have his feed bookmarked to get the most latest deepest scoops
subtle fog
maiden loom
“Save” as in “illegally withheld money appropriated by Congress”
haughty phoenix
subtle fog
maiden loom
subtle fog
subtle fog
Bluesky
subtle fog
short wren
First time I've seen confirmation of the bsky posts saying Coristine is in deep at CISA. https://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2025/02/doge-employee-edward-coristine-lands-cisa-dhs-email/403126/
maiden loom
maiden loom
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lilm4jexgk2i
Trump says Elon can decide all laws and regulations
maiden loom
maiden loom
light kernel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Gorka?wprov=sfti1# here
Sorry for answering a week later but Gorka has also been an active super right politician in Hungary in the early 2000s. He even defended the delegalised fascist Magyar Garda.
severe mortar
I just learned that fucking gorka is back
What’s his role?
severe mortar
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lilm4jexgk2i
Ughhhhhh this is not good. Nixing regulations is actually arguably far more within the executive power than most of the stuff he’s done. But whether they go through the proper process for eliminating them is yet to be seen…….
merry copper
https://www.theverge.com/news/617014/federal-workers-we-the-builders-website-dog...
on the opposite end of Musk news https://www.usermag.co/p/scoop-ashley-st-clair-sues-elon-musk
merry copper
on the opposite end of Musk news https://www.usermag.co/p/scoop-ashley-st-clair-...
I clicked through to the petition for custody and the petition for paternity and you can feel the resentment
flat cargo
I kinda want to ask for apologies from all the people who got mad at me for warning that this shit would impact us
glad sleet
Can you always share links please
flat cargo
Apologies. I’m not on X, I’ll look for a link
merry copper
That's... not how a resignation works. But I suppose at this point Trump is looking forward to these court battles.
severe mortar
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893386883444437415
………this just confirms what the firing-oops-rehiring shows - none of them know what federal employees actually do.
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Nope
Knowing that doesn’t make me feel better when I might randomly be fired despite being a high performer yaaaay
reef rampart
Knowing that doesn’t make me feel better when I might randomly be fired despite ...
Just send them some incomprehensible code and Elon will look at it and go "mmmm yes very good work"
flat cargo
Oh boy, so the due date is apparently midnight Monday night
And our resident crypto bro/musk lover who was just saying yesterday that he couldn’t believe musk would do anything to hurt “his followers” was just like “I’m not in the office on Monday, what do I do???”
flat cargo
My boss said he’ll send emails on people’s behalf but we don’t know if it only counts if it’s from their specific email addresses or what
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Is this some random way, to have bullet points associated with each potential to-be-fired employee, so they don't keep firing then rehiring, by having a quick snapshot of the employee's duties that proves their worth? This article cites Doge's "poor-track record is evidenced by agencies’ efforts to recall fired probationary employees after realizing they perform crucial functions, such as managing the nuclear stockpile and the power grid or those working on responses to bird flu." https://www.justsecurity.org/108229/what-just-happened-musk-email-federal-employees/
undone robin
Is this some random way, to have bullet points associated with each potential to...
Maybe?
The only fact I think anyone can apply to this email — is that it’s EXACTLY what Elon Musk did soon after buying Twitter. Employees there got a very similar email. Almost everything DOGE has done, down to its more senior staff brought in by Musk, are exactly what happened the first 3 months after he bought Twitter.
merry copper
https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3liszvxjfuc2m
probably some FOIA fears from experienced staff. It'd be a huge violation of operational security to have every federal employee's weekly work detailed in an email.
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I also got multiple emails saying do NOT respond
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undone robin
Just now seeing reporting on this "state visit" with PM Modi and Elon's...children:
Bluesky
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Just now seeing reporting on this "state visit" with PM Modi and Elon's...childr...
Photo from link:
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https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lixshhpal223
A lot of people didn’t even receive the emails
What a clusterfuck
undone robin
https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lixshhpal223
Marisa does great work, but a deeper read of this OPM memo is needed — notable that it does NOT indicate Musk or even OPM will do anything about the email replies (or lack of replies) - but that agency/department leadership should process them.
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undone robin
Context is king, when we talk about Elon Musk's net worth -- it's not cash, or even fungible assets. It's almost all Tesla stock: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61234231
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The trend is kinda obvious now https://www.ft.com/content/cdd0b5c8-2703-4fd4-9ebf-26087cac8523 "Tesla starts 2025 with sharp drop in sales in Europe -- Sales down 45% in January for EV maker led by Elon Musk"
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https://xcancel.com/balajis/status/1894486340945023472#m https://xcancel.com/balajis/status/1894688878570954875#m isnt balaji supposed to be 'dark maga'? - his feed reads like the magan goal all along was for the us to be destroyed in favor of crypto; thinks the world will coalesce as 'the internet' and compete versus china; 'interesting' feed lately
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maiden loom
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-elon-musk-hud-housing-discrimination-pri...
The two guys from DOGE who are involved in this are both currently active in the real estate market
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Another "oops" moment ?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1895136616441905228
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https://bsky.app/profile/kyledcheney.bsky.social/post/3lj6z7vkg6b2i
Key detail: agency heads can fire probationary federal employees whenever they want - but OPM cannot direct the firings of probationary employees
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linking How Elon Musk Executed His Takeover of the Federal Bureaucracy article to the thread #usa-canada message
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🧵https://fixupx.com/sollenbergerrc/status/1895609294810464390
https://unrollnow.com/status/1895609294810464390
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https://therecord.media/doge-access-cfpb-data-market The consumer financial protection bureau's (cfpb) data isn't just, like, access to a few spreadsheets. this is everything. customer acquisition data, revenues, profits, trade secrets, financial transaction data, business plans, even information shared with other law enforcement agencies like the sec. it's the financial equivalent of handing over the keys to fort knox, except fort knox also contains compromising photos and detailed blueprints of every other bank in the country.
The sheer breadth of the cfpb's oversight makes this even more alarming. they regulate banks, credit unions, mortgage lenders, payday lenders, debt collectors… basically, anyone who deals with money. and all their "secret sauce," as salas puts it, is now potentially in the hands of doge.
"Even if we don't think of banks as consumers, it is a data privacy issue. If I were a bank, I would be horrified and on the phone yelling right now."
Musk is also reportedly https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-x-money-visa-payments-ed4538e0be2deb5fb5767ffb39ba25f3 building a digital payment system for X.
“Musk can now root through all of the CFPB confidential data that DOGE has accessed on these potential competitors,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said at the Tuesday hearing.
CFPB has been sued by or issued enforcements against some of those competitors, including PayPal and Cash App, Salas said, and is storing confidential data belonging to them and other digital wallet companies it supervises.
“If I were a company in the same competitive space as an X payment system, I would be super worried — there's a massive competitive advantage with all this trade secret information that the CFPB has,” Wu said.
fluid ether
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1895493411039502685 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-16/dollar-swings-drive-creative-yen-bulls-to-european-based-trades
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shrewd lava
If he gives zero fuck about journalists, why the degatory term and why banning them from Twitter ?
Keep up your good work Bellingcat.
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Interesting Elon meeting with Trumps Cabinet members. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-power.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2E4.MJr8.i970559Gs_wj&smid=url-share
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"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."
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ionic junco
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-begun-performing-polygrap...
Aren't polygraphs wildly unscientific/unreliable?
subtle fog
There's no evidence of them being useful to detect deception
https://bskye.app/profile/fpwellman.bsky.social/post/3ljwzaewbqk2p
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/09/doge-government-credit-card-limits/
severe mortar
Aren't polygraphs wildly unscientific/unreliable?
Correct.
severe mortar
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/dhs-begun-performing-polygrap...
Throwback to the McCarthy era.
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lo its down 39.4% YTD
reef rampart
A totally normal stock
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lo its down 39.4% YTD
Loving it
short wren
I appreciate that someone had the foresight to screen shot when it had dropped 14.88% today.
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Aren't polygraphs wildly unscientific/unreliable?
Polygraphs work more in the sense that the threat of having some kind of legal "if you lie and we find out you're done for" threat behind it is enough to get most people to be upfront with the things that they would normally hide(and make them vulnerable to exploitation of a drug problem, debts etc), there's also the kinda documented history of handlers telling assets to resign if they got asked to polygraph, on the assumption that would kinda freak the person out enough to be sloppy.
Its not that they really "work" scientifically
But that's all down to the insistence of the agency for investigating failures of routine polygraphs, Aldrich Ames failed like 5 and only passed 2/3 over his career
wooden steeple
Polygraphs work more in the sense that the threat of having some kind of legal "...
So more of an intimidation / psychological tactic than actual use?
ember sinew
So more of an intimidation / psychological tactic than actual use?
The DIA line will always be, this is scientifically valid, so it muddles the waters, but yes
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so it's a prop
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flat cargo
So more of an intimidation / psychological tactic than actual use?
Exactly right. If you have a certain level of clearance you have to do one around every 5 years
And yeah, I think a lot of it is trying to put you in a headspace where you’ll start admitting to stuff
I had an especially bad one where this dude was incredibly hostile because I literally had nothing to hide
0/10, do not recommend
And when they ask you what you know about polygraphs, do not tell them you read that it’s a pseudoscience because they’ll make your life miserable 😅
wooden steeple
And when they ask you what you know about polygraphs, do not tell them you read ...
Still sounds worth it. If you have defunct self preservation instincts of course.
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And when they ask you what you know about polygraphs, do not tell them you read ...
If they want you to tell the truth they should learn to deal with it. 😉
Getting us back a little more on track... do we know if this is genuine? #1336481827833118754 message
flat cargo
Oh interesting. Lemme check with my peeps if anyone can confirm
flat cargo
Yeah I’ve seen so sketchy posts today. The Krassensteins made a post about the department of education ordering everyone out of the office by 6 pm today
Saying that they’re shutting the entire department down. But then an article said it was for security reasons and everyone will be going back by Thursday
Here let me actually post the article.
Oh wait it’s been amended to say they’re also cutting half the workforce
undone robin
Looks like DOJ filed their answer to Judge Alsup -- OPM will NOT produce a witness that the judge demanded, tomorrow. Gonna be the first real contempt/sanctions over DOGE-ish things, maybe:
https://bsky.app/profile/mjsdc.bsky.social/post/3lk5imsikhs2m
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25558153/ezellnoshowltr031125.pdf
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short wren
has anyone backed this up? https://bsky.app/profile/davelevitan.bsky.social/post/3lk7af44pxj2x
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foggy cove
https://bskye.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3lkjcebomlk2e
wrt "Starbase, Texas" 🙄 https://apnews.com/article/spacex-texas-starbase-cameron-25fb6f9ddf61c4425cc3a0a5de791568
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young thunder
Man. I got nothing to say to this one
For those of us who deal with secure data... 
zealous cypress
This is fine..
ivory bobcat
https://bsky.app/profile/dburbach.bsky.social/post/3lkmn72lrs22k
I can think of quite a few places where you could legit be shot for trying this, and they're just doing it willy-nilly. It's concerning.
foggy cove
??? this is bizarre https://bskye.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lkmswddltk2z
shrewd lava
If we set aside the most basic security and the grotesque conflict of interest for a minute, how in the nine hells do they justify replacing fiber by satellite internet in a metropolis ?
cinder heath
I have heard zero non-nefarious arguments as to why they would do this. like, literally none. over in #1036758130761158677 https://bsky.app/profile/waldo.net/post/3lkmo3w3pvk2n was cited, too
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ripe cargo
the website doesn't appear to be working anymore...
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undone robin
Well, that's...special. The head of the SSA, says that all Social Security Administration employees are affiliated with DOGE, so to comply with the judge's order removing DOGE from his systems...all employees will be cut off from any systems with PII.
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merry copper
https://bsky.app/profile/skiles.bsky.social/post/3lkwbunaatk25
genuine question: what's the legality on this? I know when you buy a company there's all sorts of rules around acquiring intellectual property. since this was supposedly developed by the government do none of those rules apply?
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tranquil trench
genuine question: what's the legality on this? I know when you buy a company the...
Based off how he explained it, no. There are tiny grey areas in that regard though.
When you work at spots developing stuff like that, most places require you to sign contracts that sign over your IP and rights to it for things created through/for your job or use of its official access.
Pretty common in the corporate world too as an employee. Lot of folks skip it over in their employment contracts. Alternatively it's horribly ambigiously worded and raises a lot of questions about what's considered.
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short wren
When you work at spots developing stuff like that, most places require you to si...
For government funded work at a contractor that ownership is very clearly laid out in the cooperative agreement or contract. If it's developed by a government agency it's owned directly by the government. It "doesn't matter" in this case since DOGE is operating as part of the government, legality of that aside.
tranquil trench
For government funded work at a contractor that ownership is very clearly laid o...
Yeah we just don't have a lot of details here to speak about the specifics of the backend there. Just based off how he described it though it'd p much track that they could use it for whatever anyways.
Maybe slightly irrelevant but I've always been curious on how much the govt (like overall quantity) rests on copy & paste clauses there for contractors (not employees). The corporate copy & pastes for that are insanely ambigious (insert the joke above about people getting confused about what it actually covers).
One super off case I could see there is where he was working at for that, if he was a contractor, probably would've had a full manually written contract and not a copy & paste clause.
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turbid ibex
https://bsky.app/profile/msainato.bsky.social/post/3ll7wd4ugu22s
This assumes that money was going to Measles outbreak-related services, which may not be the case
That could be cancelling out a portion of the 500M indefinite vehicle award for "SURVEILLANCE EPIDEMIOLOGY AND END RESULTS (SEER) PROGRAM - TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES" ending 2028 or the $105.7M obligated grants through 2026 for "Strengthening std prevention and control for health departments" or the $688.6M for "Cdc-Rfa-Ip19-1901 Immunization and Vaccines for Children, Covid-19 Supplemental via the 2020 Cares Act." through June. etc
DOGE isn't known for providing accurate and meaningful data.
tranquil trench
DOGE isn't known for providing accurate and meaningful data.
Yeah not to hit on any reporters also but there's a lot of stuff jumping the gun in framing these matters, media literacy is just as important now as it was the past few years, debatably even moreso now.
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thick edge
https://www.wired.com/story/nist-doge-layoffs-atomic-spectroscopy/
https://bsky....
Archived: https://archive.ph/6mGXc
brave seal
Like with other states, the Trump administration is pulling back four grants to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment that fund COVID-19 disease tracking, childhood vaccinations and studies of health disparities, totalling about $200 million. Folks at the state lab on Fed grant, term limited contracts are being told start looking for work elsewhere. https://www.denverpost.com/2025/03/26/colorado-covid-addiction-mental-health-grants-trump-cdc-samhsa/
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FixupX
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Universeodon Social Media
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Fantastic article there and great work from the team - not sure if they meant this loosely though but when referencing Thiel and co, Thiel actually comprises his own unique network, he isn't part of Musks.
surreal cape
There's a lot to be said for how the ultra-wealthy maintain an effective united front in this kind of media, whereas the other sub genre of coverage of them is pointing out how messy they are with their own lives/each other's.
The two also comprise the two most effective power brokers out of the early tech field that didnt start out as the owner of a consumer tech company (thinking Zuckerburg, pre-buyout Dorsey). Both of them are also a lot more similar than other tech CEOs in their orbit given both their companies (Palantir, Tesla/SpaceX) are heavily reliant on government contracts.
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(ben wikler is chair of the wisconsin democratic party)
foggy cove
https://bskye.app/profile/benwikler.bsky.social/post/3llh6gvdg2s2l
he’s calling for a grassroots attempt to lobby the Wisconsin governor into arresting Musk while he’s in state
tranquil trench
There's a lot to be said for how the ultra-wealthy maintain an effective united ...
That's a big thing with "elites" a lot of folks don't recognize
Most of them beef heavily just, how social dynamics work with those crowds is very different from what the rest of us experience so, it's very hard for it to "make sense" in our thoughts.
They won't be at each other throats hating each other, may even term themselves as "friends" - but they'll absolutely compete left and right with each other.
One example I used with Musk and Thiel a lot recently actually is exactly OPM and OMB. They both tried to stock their people in them, Thiel managed to get some more people around OMB originally but OPM ended up going Musks direction - not really sure where OMB rests now though.
Thiel is an actual like active participant in those sorts of tech ideology things too. Musk is too obv but he isn't as much of an active participant as much as an adherent. Thiel puts a loot of funding into media to promote his little twist on it eg Jesse Michels.
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https://fixupx.com/libsoftiktok/status/1906439930626105850
https://fixupx.com/elonmusk/status/1906467176648761685
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short wren
Worth noting that NPR is not really federally funded. Some local stations have minor federal funding, but the idea that NPR is funded by the government is pretty suspect. https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finances
tranquil trench
Just to note on that the 500m is in current valuation, the property itself was mostly bankrolled by Congressional funds. Still a problem nonetheless but even in civil courts between businesses that's a little caveat that could alter things drastically.
lucid hollow
Surely there is no doubt that building's worth a huge fortune? It's a big building, right by the State Department on the Mall, super fancy, security on par with an embassy or federal office.
tranquil trench
Surely there is no doubt that building's worth a huge fortune? It's a big buildi...
Yeah the current valuation is around 500m (I don't think we have an exact valuation just an about), the build cost was around 198-200. I was just noting that for expectation reasons, since Congress funded a lot of that and cause of how USIP works it's a very realistic possibility the court would swing the govts way regardless of anything else.
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https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/03/30/doge-comes-for-the-data-wonks
non-paywalled https://archive.ph/4ROgv
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historical survey of the network state ideology
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lW-47QyII7q86AI2LGmpkCrXoam5988DppC1lzEDOts/view
Stripped of its jargon, the concept of a “Network State" is a tech startup company generating a large & vocal social following which encourages sufficient investment to purchase scattered parcels of land / property which eventually gains political sovereignty for the whole organization. It’s the idea that you can start a real country with enough funding and followers. In theory they’re (unrealistic) urban developments that promise to integrate blockchain technology into critical financial and governance structures. The history of the concept is littered with typically—if not exclusively—libertarian pipe dreams of deregulation and the abounding wealth that would provide. At-best they are untenable ambitions of dudes with no city planning experience trying to build their personal tax havens or they’re opportunistic rugpulls targeting tech enthusiasts, investors, and the public as a part of the constant grind to legitimize a cryptocurrency project long enough to get a massive payday for the ground floor conspirators. At-worst they’re a deliberate plan by billionaires to collapse the U.S. economy so that they alone emerge from the rubble with power, capital, and esteem by restructuring civilization into modern monarchies.
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https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/musks-doge-using-ai-s...
Not an American here, but is normal and/or legal to shutdown the disagreement?
restive cove
I’m not sure honestly but hopefully someone with more relevant expertise and knowledge can chime in.
short wren
it's legal - your communications on your employer's network are not generally considered personal. There's larger questions about the relative sensitivity of those conversations being fed into a GAI model that is likely going to regurgitate them without care for a relative security level of the recipient or the information itself.
For government/intergovernmental comms, there's also the public nature of the work and there are considerations that should be adhered to with regard to what is public and what is privledged or subject to any of a number of records laws. I've not seen any documentation or reporting indicating that they AI they use is operating within those bounds.
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am I supposed to know all of these people on bluesky?
I don't know what to make of all of these bsky threads because 1) I don't know these people by name, 2) I wouldn't know what kind of credibility to give to a bluesky account claiming to be that person (is there any kind of verification on bsky?) and 3) a lot of times they are just that person claiming things without any source
young thunder
I don't know what to make of all of these bsky threads because 1) I don't know t...
Exactly. If I can verify they're a journalist or in some role where this knowledge is offered as analysis, I might find value. But I often don't know why someone's statements are being taken as fact. Maybe they have a history? It's good to ask anyone posting this sort of thing why they're posting it and why they think it's accurate.
reef rampart
Exactly. If I can verify they're a journalist or in some role where this knowled...
This might be slightly off topic, but I still cannot believe citing sources properly is not standard practice for journalists. This is how we gets things like this, with literally trillions dollar consequences. https://www.yahoo.com/news/reuters-retracts-bogus-report-trump-185241039.html
young thunder
This might be slightly off topic, but I still cannot believe citing sources pro...
I noted that and that also the outlets simply repeated each other instead of independently looking into it. Not good.
I see comments in the server that say something like, "this outlet is also confirming the story", and then I go to check, and the article is actually noting that the other outlet has published an article about the story. It's not, in fact, saying that they've independently verified the facts that Outlet 1 has stated.
Media literacy is a big hurdle to overcome so I appreciate anyone asking questions about sources. We always should, and make sure we understand why what being posted is relevant and important
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I noted that and that also the outlets simply repeated each other instead of ind...
Ironically the article I posted a link to also does not have a link to the original retracted article and I'm ashamed to admit I don't actually know how to go find it. I want to read it because I vaguely remember the article saying that the advisor said this on fox news, but the they could have easily just watched it and seen it wasn't true. Do you have advice on how to find the the original? Tried using way back machine but got a bunch of errors and don't actually know how to use it properly 😅
young thunder
Ironically the article I posted a link to also does not have a link to the origi...
Hey no one was born doing open source research. You have to ask to find out. Let me see what I can do and if I can locate it I'll tell you how I did it
So I'm not sure there was a CNBC or Fox News article from the read. I think it might have been stuff on cable news shows.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1909250858044313876?t=GkkzjF0rRheiAYkav-0O-A&s=19
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Hey no one was born doing open source research. You have to ask to find out. Let...
Tens of thousands spent on a research based degree, pulling thousand year old records out of Venetian archives and I can't find an article I read 2 days ago 
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So I was looking on Reuters for like a public editor section that generally would house explanations of screw ups
I'm unable to find it immediately. However, because multiple outlets use Reuters as a feed, the retraction shows up in some outlets still
Since Fox has so many spinoffs (website, channel, Fox business, etc) it's tough to triangulate where it appeared but they are also reporting on it https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/cnbc-issues-on-air-correction-after-pushing-viral-falsehood-about-trump-tariff-pause
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So I'm not sure there was a CNBC or Fox News *article* from the read. I think it...
Again, sorry if this isn't the place for it, but I'm down a rabbit hole now and I need to understand what happened.
young thunder
You're fine! I'm just not sure if I'm helping
reef rampart
You're fine! I'm just not sure if I'm helping
Do you have twitter? Can you read that garbage website? I can't see the threads without an account and I REALLY do not want an account XD.
young thunder
Do you have twitter? Can you read that garbage website? I can't see the threads ...
Yep! I don't use it personally but things I'm interested in (Congo) still uses Twitter heavily. I don't want to give up my work or my interest so I check Twitter for Congo stuff
reef rampart
Yep! I don't use it personally but things I'm interested in (Congo) still uses T...
Does this thread have his original tweet, and can you give me the timestamp of. Jesus Christ it's 2am on Tuesday/Wednesday why am I doing this.
https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1909252731769888918
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Does this thread have his original tweet, and can you give me the timestamp of. ...
This timezone might be US Eastern due to my phone.
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post was deleted 😭
Wait, I actually shared this misinformation so I do have a timestamp, go me I guess?
young thunder
Wait, I actually shared this misinformation so I do have a timestamp, go me I gu...
All information can help with verification
reef rampart
Ok, so at 15:13 he posted this, at 15:31 he 'cited' reuters
young thunder
I would have said to him in my Bellingcat mod voice, "post a link so we can verify"
But this ties nicely back to the "why do we trust people on Bluesky" where this convo started
reef rampart
https://fortune.com/2025/04/07/trump-tariff-pause-walter-bloomberg-fake-report-debunked-markets/
I'm gonna have an aneurysm, this article includes a link to a meme about not citing a source, but doesn't provide any archived source of the original tweet that the article is about.
young thunder
I wonder if he deleted the tweet before anyone archived it
reef rampart
I wonder if he deleted the tweet before anyone archived it
https://archive.ph/tzWmE Nope.
so the fox news interview was at 13:24
RapidResponse47 shared the clip debunking the tweet at 15:38 https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1909254335822692548
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You know. You have a timeline now and could write a Medium blog post about how all of this happened for a portfolio 
reef rampart
You know. You have a timeline now and could write a Medium blog post about how a...
This is my own personal hell
young thunder
This is my own personal hell
Post through it 
young thunder
OMG I have it.
Nice, how did you get there?
reef rampart
Nice, how did you get there?
CNN has a timeline, searched for it in archive.ph
young thunder
Good job!
reef rampart
admittedly the timeline seems wrong, but close enough I guess?
young thunder
I'll have a look at the timeline if you post the link
reef rampart
"By 10:19, Reuters alerted the supposed comments, citing CNBC. " The Reuters article I have is from 10:32, no citing of CNBC, but citing a "interview". But I think they do like a live thing for journalists right?
OMG DID THIS DUDE JUST MAKE AN UNGODLY AMOUNT OF MONEY TRICKING THE ENTIRE WORLD?
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"By 10:19, Reuters alerted the supposed comments, citing CNBC. " The Reuters art...
One way to find this out would be to see if Hassett did any other interviews that day before the Fox one.
That's incorrect. Any other interviews that day before the Reuters article. My bad
reef rampart
One way to find this out would be to see if Hassett did any other interviews tha...
I am not aware of any, none have been mentioned, and in the fox new interview he is directly asked if they'd consider a 90 day pause
young thunder
Sometimes the US government posts schedules of certain high ranking officials and what they'll be doing that day.
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But I think the Fox interview being the source of this is correct.
I want to know why there was cheering on the floor. Is hammer capital a trader irl?
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I want to know why there was cheering on the floor. Is hammer capital a trader i...
I assume robinhood, but he has like 1k followers?
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According to CNN’s analysis, the first X post to claim Hassett said Trump would consider a 90-day pause in tariffs came at 10:11 a.m. ET from an account called “Hammer Capital” with the handle “yourfavorito,” which has barely 1,000 followers.
At about 10:12 a.m., CNN’s Vanessa Yurkevich, who was on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, said that cheers had broken out, as stock indices — which were already recovering from early-morning lows — suddenly surged.
“Walter Bloomberg,” an account with a much larger following that uses the handle “DeItaone” copy-and-pasted the original rumor along with a siren emoji at 10:13 a.m.
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I don't know enough about how trading desks and headlines work to offer any ideas there unfortunately
reef rampart
I don't know enough about how trading desks and headlines work to offer any idea...
You know who should? CNN. The NBC news reporter. How am I seemingly the only one interested in this?
young thunder
You know who should? CNN. The NBC news reporter. How am I seemingly the only one...
I bet you're not. If CNN bothered to analyze Twitter and find Hammer Capital it sounds like they're interested. Have you looked up the authors on Bluesky or anything? Sometimes they post about their stories with additional info or will answer your questions
reef rampart
I bet you're not. If CNN bothered to analyze Twitter and find Hammer Capital it ...
No additional info
young thunder
No additional info
Could always try asking!
reef rampart
Could always try asking!
I'm not entirely sure how to go about this
subtle fog
https://archive.ph/mBsho
🥳 congrats! you did an OSINT
young thunder
I'm not entirely sure how to go about this
DM them or reply to their stories on social media is what I'd do
reef rampart
OK so, the stock starts to rise between :09-10, the alleged first tweet is at :11, by then the stock is already up substantially, while CNN is correct there is yelling and cheering at :12, its in response to the DJI going positive. This makes its highly unlikely, if not impossible that the tweet CNN cites was the cause of the stock market rise, walter doesn't even post for another 2 mins, by which time the stock is already near its maximum high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDO0fcQeSU 1:32:40 for the cheer on it going positive.
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DM them or reply to their stories on social media is what I'd do
I can't message hammer capital because I need a blue checkmark
young thunder
I can't message hammer capital because I need a blue checkmark
Oh I meant the CNN journalists
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Oh I meant the CNN journalists
Yer I definitely will, but he is claiming that there was some headline going around a 09 which matches when the stock jumps, so I wanted to see if I could get any more info off of him first.
young thunder
Yer I definitely will, but he is claiming that there was some headline going aro...
Unfortunately (?) I'm not a blue check so I can't message the Hammer.
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at 10:15, CNBC says "apparently hasset has been saying that trump will consider a 90 pause in tarrifs for all countries except for china" "we'll try and source exactly where that's coming from" https://archive.org/details/CNBC_20250407_130000_Squawk_on_the_Street/start/4500/end/4560
at exactly 10:20 they mention that hasset did an interview with fox news. 10:24 they get the actual quote from fox news "the president is gonna decide what the president is gonna decide" The reuters "flash" was aparently at 10:19, but the snapshot I have is from 10:32?
young thunder
at exactly 10:20 they mention that hasset did an interview with fox news. 10:24 ...
Is the snapshot later due to web crawling?
reef rampart
Is the snapshot later due to web crawling?
I believe Reuters has a newswire that they send out subscribers so my assumption is that its this the other outlets are refering too?
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completely missed this screenshot
so, my understanding here is that they went with this immediately after CNBC said it on air without checking, then later published a stand alone article attributing the quote to his fox news interview, but they published this after CNBC themselves had talked about him not actually saying that in the interview
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Could I ask that we move this into a forum post? And keept his for news about Elon
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https://www.wired.com/story/gao-audit-elon-musk-doge-government-agencies/
(archived https://archive.ph/KPzY9)
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/doge-immigration-taskforce-00287327
(archived https://archive.ph/3qf8Q)
what actually happens in the government’s IT systems to make sure that those people are eligible for deportation? Who makes sure that that is reflected in the database?
That is where DOGE comes in to comb through datasets at all relevant agencies and facilitate data-sharing between agencies so the enforcement actions can be carried out systematically and at-scale, one of administration officials said.
https://bskye.app/profile/nicolemicheroni.bsky.social/post/3lml5ctrmmc2u
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/15/doge-ssa-immigration-trump-housing/
archived: https://archive.is/pFB6F
digital cypress
Disclosure of breach through DOGE systems attached to federal networks and intimidation of whistleblower
https://whistlebloweraid.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025_0414_Berulis-Disclosure-with-Exhibits.s.pdf
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I am not sure if this is the correct place for this. If not please tell me where to move it:
https://bsky.app/profile/phillipanderson.bsky.social/post/3lmu5cecfms2z
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https://unrollnow.com/status/1913023007263543565
or the same on bsky (where the embedded media displays for me whereas the unroll does not): https://bsky.app/profile/mattjay.com/post/3ln2dgoksce2e
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https://www.npr.org/2025/04/15/nx-s1-5355896/doge-nlrb-elon-musk-spacex-security
Oops, shoulda searched! Put the Maddow clip with whistle-blower interview in Elon Discussion: #1036758130761158677 message http://brittain.tech/maddow415.mp4
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(archive: https://archive.is/20250419013523/)
https://www.wired.com/story/cfpb-terminations-paused-trump/
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A true 2025 headline
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To be clear the National Digital Newspaper Program —which was the program digitising new papers for ChronAm and was a partnership between the NEH & LoC—is what’s been shut down. So for now the issue is nothing new will be added to ChronAm going forward, not the existing site—run by the LoC—going down. But still bad news for digital archivists. https://bsky.app/profile/ryancordell.org/post/3loy6l455js23
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Report link from the article above: https://offers.socure.com/rs/570-ENG-578/images/government-fraud-patterns-report.pdf
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This is true but the framing here is a bit, skewed. All types of crime groups do this, and they've done it since they existed. DOGE was not instituted to focus on this, but it absolutely has done work towards the policies and procedures relating to the overall grant and loan processes.
So yes, DOGE isn't focusing on the issue there itself, but DOGE was not at all instituted for criminal enforcement, so, very unfair and misleading cast there.
Also I'm not sure if the efficiency discussion in this context would be well taken because some of what enables this are absolutely ideology forward policy implementations not from the right. This is why we can see higher occurances of it in cities with more ideology oriented democratic policymakers eg quite a few cities in California have seen this issue in exact pursuit of grants to combat things like violence and crime being given to (known) active members of criminal organizations who actively exploit the grants to commit crimes. If DOGE at all touched that there is 0 way it would be critically discussed and it'd near immediately get thrown into politicized debates.
The article also hilariously identifies they spoke to DOGE, who did list out things they were doing, and that they have faced criticism - only for the article to cast that they are doing nothing and to criticize the approaches they are doing that they say they aren't (tiny bit of contradiction in that).
They also kind of ignored what the experts they spoke too said the actual problem was, which isn't about them not acting towards or focusing on it, but misunderstanding the vulnerabilities (of which, even within DOGE, primarily rests with people besides Musk). That rotates a bit as, for example, some of the things the article promotes from the experts here, is exactly what DOGE received criticism for with their whole attempt to update the SSN records (not in re them pairing it with other govt systems).
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https://fixupx.com/mattforva/status/1923193348187185368?
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This is a perfeect reason on why understanding distinct actor networks is really important. I would like to know the post of focus that got him suspended though, cause you can absolutely be fired for making certain statements and this is outlined in the employment contracts.
Another tiny note also because this gets used by a lot folks who whistleblow, leak, or expose; "whistleblowing" does not include posting to the public. If you post it to the public, you are leaking or exposing - not whistleblowing. The proper processes for whistleblowers go to OIGs and Congress. Leaking and exposing are generally things you can be fired for also though not whistleblowing (legally anyways).
If you are using your government job to seek out information to expose also (leaving out leaking since thats illegal entirely) - that is "abuse" in "Fraud, Waste, and Abuse"
Also, uh, not that what he's saying is inaccurate either but major red flag in his series of posts about this and he references it himself when he says "government contractor". He claims he "accepted a position at DHS HQ" and "fired from DHS HQ", and that "I work at DHS HQ"
None of these are accurate, he was employed by a contractor, and they have a contract with DHS that may or may not give him access to DHS HQ. He never accepted a position with or was fired from DHS, since he never worked for DHS. If he's getting "fired", he's getting fired from his company, you can't be "fired" from a contract your company has, just reassigned (or fired from your company). That is purely framing.
Last bit also but this dude has quite significant record of peddling alt-conspiracies (will explain) and disinformation. He was a headlining figure for the military antivax stuff, including promoting actual conspiracies about the vaccines and COVID itself.
Most of his other conspiracy peddling I call alt-conspiracies because they present alternate versions of standing conspiracies.
For example, he promotes Musk shutting down FEMAs programs "funding illegal immigrants", except he thinks Musk misunderstands what's going on and really the republicans (the ones he coincidentally disagrees with politically) are in on it also, otherwise he agrees with halting it though, just has to be "changed" to also combat the "bad" republicans in his eyes too.
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Another tiny note also because this gets used by a lot folks who whistleblow, le...
And if the OGs and Congress do nothing? One is not supposed to go to the press? (Or are you saying that if you go to the press you will get fired regardless of whether that is morally the right thing to do?)
(Trying to understand what you are saying because it is not clear from your post).
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And if the OGs and Congress do nothing? One is not supposed to go to the press? ...
He's using word mumbo jumbo to frame perceptions. When we are talking about following official processes, leaking to the public is not considered. It goes to OIGs and Congress formally. If you leak to the public, you are explicitly not following the correct processes.
teal jacinth
He's using word mumbo jumbo to frame perceptions. When we are talking about foll...
It is a general question. Not related to his post.
I know he is saying nonsense
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The official processes do not consider giving it to the public, that'd be leaking or exposing. Leaking is criminal in pretty much every case. Exposing may not be but at least in these contexts is generally against policies and regulations and can get you fired legally, just not criminally charged.
Morality is a bit of a different discussion and quite tricky though doesn't really service the above. I'm sure we could agree on the moral basis of certain information being public, although in most cases the leakers tend to have ego oriented motivations towards doing it, and in a lot of the bigger cases tend to give out material that could lead to peoples deaths without much care which is debatably just as if not more immoral.
Now as to if people get fired or criminally charged in every related case, not always random stuff can happen. Plenty of folks get fired and clearances revoked for leaking things but without malicious intent and don't get criminally charged as a result, etc. Or in a relevant case with the current administration (quite a few cases actually lol), you could be in an executive role where politics reigns supreme.
Here's DHS OIGs page also which explains the actual dynamics of that for DHS -
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/whistleblower-protection
The term "protected disclosure" here is referencing following the official processes here.
"Who are the authorized audiences for the protected disclosure?
The law does not specify to whom a disclosure must be made to constitute the disclosure protected. However, classified disclosures must be handled in accordance with the law. This process is outlined in the Frequently Asked Questions section below."
This is why the exposing part gets tricky. If you expose non-classified information to the public, this is an unprotected disclosure, you can semantically be a "whistleblower", but a lot of them like Matt here try to explicitly frame following the official process. Now, since this isn't illegal per the law, you wont be criminally charged, but it's still generally against the employment contracts so they could legally fire you for such & it wouldn't be considered retaliation necessarily UNLESS they could prove they followed and failed attempts at the official process - this does not make it a "protected disclosure" still but provides them legal protection from retaliation.
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Thank you for the information and for answering my question in detail
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https://www.zetter-zeroday.com/uae-recruiting-us-personnel-displaced-by-doge-to-...
Mostly good article, UAE does this quite a lot openly bit sad the report only focuses on the major reported cases. They've increesed it a lot the past 2-ish years. I'm not sure exactly when they set it in place, but sometime post-2020 into 23/24 (this is long after the old reports) they started escalating efforts to develop different areas of their military capabilities.
I forget the companies name I'll have to grab it again but there's another one that started mass-pulling people since mid-2024 to go over and help develop their strategic communications, psyop and etc capabilities.
The only area I'd give the article a bit of a flag to read up on is DDSs public image was absolutely rosey eyed post-election. I highly recommend reading the audit at the end of the last year that found some pretty widescale issues leading to kinda major cybersecurity risks.
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Hi, while this is fascinating, please remember to 1) use sources and 2) not speculate
Links that prove that this is what is happening to Musk?
Hi, you make links by removing the `
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https://www.thenation.com/article/society/elon-musk-drug-use-ideology/
https://academic.oup.com/ijnp/article/26/6/438/7180809
https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/9/11/1645/1681238
https://academic.oup.com/ijnp/article/26/9/616/7238423
https://www.verywellhealth.com/desoxyn-vs-adderall-how-do-they-differ-8714395
https://www.ptsd.va.gov/understand_tx/mdma_assisted_therapy.asp
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/05/13/1250580932/ecstasy-mdma-ptsd-fda-approval
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https://www.thenation.com/article/society/elon-musk-drug-use-ideology/
https://a...
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/28/opinion/tech-billionaires-psychedelics.html?searchResultPosition=2
https://www.npr.org/transcripts/518986612
abstract tide
Can you please move this to #usa-canada (if nobody has beaten you to it)?
If you are having trouble finding the right channel to post in, please contact us via @keen tiger
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-interior-epa.html
archived: https://archive.is/20250607091135/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/07/us/politics/trump-musk-doge-interior-epa.html
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undone robin
I guess this Elon Coup-adjacent?
Protestors inside the lobby at 9200 Sunset Blvd.
Peter Thiel's holding company, Thiel Capital, is HQ'd there.
https://bsky.app/profile/acatwithnews.bsky.social/post/3lrixq7nc7c2n
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bizarre military procurement decision
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/grok-elon-musk-xai-pentagon-contract/
(archived https://archive.ph/hLbyC)
ripe cargo
this article gets bonus points for a killer title:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/grok-pornographic-anime-companion-department-of-defense-1235385034/
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gizmodo treats his banal, meandering sci-fi concept with a lot more respect than it deserves here
https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-wants-to-turn-ai-into-a-cosmic-religion-2000630710
(archived https://archive.ph/ld2NG)
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abstract tide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFLrDaV6nkE
Hi, is there any information in this?
subtle fog
His wife worked at the US Fish & Wildlife Service at the federal government
abstract tide
So literally it is personal. And this is intersting to people here because...?
subtle fog
Just an anecdote from someone impacted by the DOGE cuts and describes her role and how that's impacted him as someone that liked his Tesla
abstract tide
Just an anecdote from someone impacted by the DOGE cuts and describes her role a...
And what is the research value of this? Are you collecting cases? I’m sorry, I just don’t understand.
subtle fog
Yeah was a case from someone with a sizeable influence.
But maybe better in #1036758130761158677 ?
short wren
Imo it's not particularly interesting just because the guy has a youtube channel. It's also not a first hand account from his wife.
trim arch
Sort of unrelated, but what’s the ideal channel here to follow things related to “the manosphere”? I’m noticing several YT channels that supported Trump now switching to other narratives, even if they are not exactly MAGA.
Edited: to clarify types of channels
young thunder
Sort of unrelated, but what’s the ideal channel here to follow things related to...
Probably #far-right-monitoring (if it's one of their many angles) or #gender-based-violence-misogyny
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https://gizmodo.com/doges-19-year-old-staffer-big-balls-appears-with-elon-on-fox...
A police report identified the victim as Edward Coristine, who is also known by the nickname “Big Balls.”
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D.C. police have arrested a 15-year-old boy and girl from Maryland and charged them with unarmed carjacking, the department said in a news release. Two people familiar with the details of the case, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the suspects are being held at the city’s youth detention center.
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The attempted carjacking occurred about 3 a.m. Sunday in the 1400 block of Swann Street NW, a residential, tree-lined stretch just off a busy thoroughfare. According to a D.C. police report, about 10 juveniles approached Coristine and one other person, who were “standing next to their vehicle,” then “demanded the vehicle and assaulted one of the victims.”
During the assault, a D.C. police cruiser “pulled into the block causing the suspects to flee,” the police department said. Officers stopped two suspects, the police report says.D.C. police have arrested a 15-year-old boy and girl from Maryland and charged them with unarmed carjacking, the department said in a news release. Two people familiar with the details of the case, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the suspects are being held at the city’s youth detention center.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/08/05/trump-doge-worker-washington-dc-crime/
(archived https://archive.ph/Jr4db)
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“United States Institute of Peace Funded Taliban,” [Musk's] post read. At the bottom, the post named Halimi and described him as a “former Taliban member,” and the payments to him as U.S. support for the militants.
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during President Donald Trump’s first term in office, Halimi was part of a team of advisers that helped the U.S. prepare for difficult diplomatic talks with the Taliban [and he had] had made numerous media appearances as one of the Taliban’s more ardent critics, accusing them of straying from Islam’s true principles.
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the militants might equate his work at USIP to espionage and severely punish anyone involved with it. By exposing him, Musk and his team endangered those working with Halimi, as well his relatives who were still in Afghanistan.
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About a week after DOGE outed him … Taliban intelligence agents in Kabul … detained three of his family members … They were held incommunicado over several days and repeatedly beaten and questioned about Halimi and his recently publicized yet ambiguous work for the United States.
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[The Taliban government’s chief] spokesperson did not answer questions about the treatment of Halimi’s family, saying, “I do not consider it necessary to answer.”
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[DOGE team member & new USIP president Nate Cavanaugh told Fox host Jesse] Watters [that] he’d uncovered documents showing that the agency was making payments to a contractor associated with the Taliban.
Watters looked at Cavanaugh in disbelief: “Get out of here.”
“This is real,” Cavanaugh said. Watters raised a hand, pressing on: “What was the money going to the Taliban for? … Was it for opium, or weapons, or a bribe?”
“Or nothing,” Musk interjected.
He and Watters burst into laughter.
https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-musk-mohammad-halimi-institute-peace-taliban
(archived http://web.archive.org/web/20250822111119/https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-musk-mohammad-halimi-institute-peace-taliban)
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Cross-post with #academia
https://bsky.app/profile/johnholbein1.bsky.social/post/3matubth5o22d
Link to report: https://lucabellodi.com/material/DOGE_Bellodi_Lee.pdf
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The bottom line is that government spending increased under DOGE, and there was no noticeable impact on the month-to-month budget after DOGE cuts began, the Cato Institute reported. “The federal government spent $7.6 trillion in the first 11 months of calendar year 2025, approximately $248 billion higher by November of 2025 compared to the same month in 2024,” its report said.
Over time, more will be learned about how DOGE operated and what impact DOGE had. But it seems likely that even Musk would agree that DOGE failed to uncover the vast fraud he continues to predict exists in government.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/20/trump-musk-doge-social-security-00737245
archived: https://archive.ph/2GRnL
Shapiro also revealed that Steve Davis, a senior adviser to Musk and DOGE’s team, was copied on a March 3, 2025 email that included a password-protected file containing private information of about 1,000 people contained in Social Security systems. It’s unclear, she said, whether Davis ever accessed the file. And Shapiro said current SSA employees have been unable to access the file to determine precisely what it contained.
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Also among the corrections: DOJ revealed that a DOGE team member was briefly granted access to private Social Security profiles even after a court prohibited it. Shapiro said the access was never “utilized.” And in another instance, a DOGE team member had access for two months to a “call center profile” that contained private information.
“It is unknown at this time whether any [private information] was accessed,” Shapiro said.Shapiro also revealed that despite prior assertions in court, SSA’s DOGE team members “were using links to share data through the third-party server ‘Cloudflare.’”
“Cloudflare is not approved for storing SSA data and when used in this manner is outside SSA’s security protocols,” Shapiro indicated. “SSA did not know, until its recent review, that DOGE Team members were using Cloudflare during this period. Because Cloudflare is a third-party entity, SSA has not been able to determine exactly what data were shared to Cloudflare or whether the data still exist on the server.”
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Alaska lost about a third of its U.S. Forest Service employees in the past year due to federal staffing cuts led by the now-defunct Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE. Before that, the agency had around 700 Alaska-based staff. This month, the agency told KTOO that 467 remain.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dPHWddpIZI
Rep. Robert Garcia, Ranking Member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Oversight Democrats, and local Members of Congress will be holding a congressional field hearing in Northern Virginia on how the so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and Donald Trump damaged the federal government, decimated public services, and hurt federal employees. This hearing will feature firsthand testimonies from current and former federal employees impacted by disastrous cuts to our government.
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Some footage from the DOGE raids have been released? This reporter shared a clip https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3mg4hbxqshs2u
This is a result of winning a court case for this material 12 days ago and I presume the story follows soon and maybe more clips.
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Here is that reporting + footage
https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/body-cam-footage-usip-doge-raid-mpd-lawsuit
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NBC DC affiliate segment about the bodycam footage https://youtu.be/4_5z9EtsI-I
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A thread where a person affected discusses this with some data https://bsky.app/profile/rezekjoe.bsky.social/post/3mgiodfel6k2f
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/03/10/social-security-data-breach-doge/
archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20260310194034/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/03/10/social-security-data-breach-doge/
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Further reporting on that https://www.404media.co/i-watched-6-hours-of-doge-bro-testimony-heres-what-they-had-to-say-for-themselves/
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Further reporting on that https://www.404media.co/i-watched-6-hours-of-doge-bro-...
Chaser:
https://www.404media.co/doge-deposition-videos-taken-down-after-judge-order-and-widespread-mockery/
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Chaser:
https://www.404media.co/doge-deposition-videos-taken-down-after-judge-or...
/r/DataHoarder have torrents for them: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1rt436y/nathan_kavanaugh_doge_deposition/oabl746/?share_id=XFKk_fXC6K3nSfBpXnnxN&context=3
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https://bsky.app/profile/mikelevin.org/post/3mhikk3jdrk22
reminds me of this story, and well know how that ended well : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus
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