^Pictured- California Wildfire near Santa Monica
#Weather and geological phenomena
unborn timber
Winds are expected to pick up in the coming hours, this will likely be a historic fire.
Tomorrow's Fire Weather Outlook per the NWS.
unborn timber
https://fxtwitter.com/AZ_Intel_/status/1876759746172088736
You can see subvorts in this, very wild.
unborn timber
This will undoubtably be a very historic fire for many years to come. Still uncontained, it is about to get so much worse.
unborn timber
This is the new fire i'd be concerned about given the current winds. (SW)
Especially since it's in the hills... Another tough one to fight and contain currently.
...That area may see 80-100 MPH gusts here in a bit, that'll be completely uncontrollable if that verifies out.
grave spear
This reporter is on the ground with the CA fire: https://x.com/jonvigliotti/status/1876823108981538874
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unborn timber
All firefighting aircraft grounded due to high winds.
PDS Red Flag warning issued for LA.- Includes areas such as Hollywood and Beverly Hills.
unborn timber
This is the new fire i'd be concerned about given the current winds. (SW)
Renamed to Eaton Fire. Reportedly 200+ acres.
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karmic flame
KTLA has been covering both fires well and a lot of damage shown: https://ktla.com/news/california/wildfires/palisades-fire-los-angeles-live-updates/
grave spear
Another on the ground journalist: https://x.com/lizkreutznews/status/1876770956661727277
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jagged niche
…that’s an easy way to tell people it’s serious.
Granted, all fires near metro areas are serious. But even then.
unborn timber
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unborn timber
…that’s an easy way to tell people it’s serious.
They told people to abandon their cars and run for it when this initially started, roads were gridlocked and the fire was approachin quickly. This unfortunately turned around and slowed response time because the roads were now blocked.
jagged niche
Oh, that explains why, my bad.
jagged niche
They told people to abandon their cars and run for it when this initially starte...
The more I know!
unborn timber
OLD POST 6 hours ago it was bad- People understood the threat, but unfortunately everyone tried to leave at once.
https://x.com/JonVigliotti/status/1876732377201795491
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unborn timber
Per <https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents>
area of above screenshot+ direction, Best combined w/ this.
Whole entire area was practically stuck.
unborn timber
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65 MPH sustained winds, gusts to 85 so far, first signs of the expected uptick.
CONTENT WARNING Video recorded by two men surrounded by fire in their home, no injuries, but it's a really bad situation.
||https://x.com/AZ_Intel_/status/1876842554966077505||
mental lotus
I don't think this is the same channel shared above:
https://bsky.app/profile/bencollins.bsky.social/post/3lf7cbrnkzs2l
mental lotus
I don't think this is the same channel shared above:
https://bsky.app/profile/be...
A direct link if you want to tune in versus read recaps
https://www.youtube.com/live/59hLkc6FDvQ?si=lavmBg-iOMoWVfdt
I'm looking for another source about if this is true
mental lotus
I'm looking for another source about if this is true
I'm only finding that LAFD is asking their own employees to report their status, not as it's being reported on some areas of social media, that they want anyone with firefighting experience to call.
https://vxtwitter.com/LAFD/status/1876817689949208942?t=1aVBxxIHk4WG1_QKS1D4cw&s=19
jagged niche
||https://bsky.app/profile/ericholthaus.com/post/3lf7bf5ba4s2j||
idk validity but I might as well share edit: ok the link is misinfo
mental lotus
||https://bsky.app/profile/ericholthaus.com/post/3lf7bf5ba4s2j||
~~idk validity...
Yeah that was what I removed above.
https://vxtwitter.com/LAFDtalk/status/1876846052562571727?t=rZuJxxVJEzEE6OeGx99hxQ&s=19
jagged niche
Yeah that was what I removed above.
https://vxtwitter.com/LAFDtalk/status/1876...
Ok, thank you for the info 🙂
jagged niche
||https://bsky.app/profile/ericholthaus.com/post/3lf7bf5ba4s2j||
~~idk validity...
Update: link is misinfo, please ignore the validity of this!
mental lotus
Because consequences can be dire (eg, the hotline will get shat up by people calling in good faith) when I see something unusual I go looking for a second independent source (first stop is the actual department).
jagged niche
Fair point, thank you. 🙂
mental lotus
that's ok! We're learning. And this is turning into a MESS
This is a parody account of Kash Patel thankfully but the reach is alarming
unborn timber
that's ok! We're learning. And this is turning into a MESS
Peak winds are expected to end at like 5 AM tomorrow. (Their time)
It is not going to be pretty in the morning.
mental lotus
Peak winds are expected to end at like 5 AM tomorrow. (Their time)
I meant the misinformation going around, but yes, this is dire and scary
unborn timber
Light content warning- Evacuating patients, some w/ prior injuries. (Nursing home?)
||https://twitter.com/FirePhotoGirl/status/1876847716212318475||
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Wild footage. (Especially 20 seconds in- that's on the beach.)
jagged niche
that's ok! We're learning. And this is turning into a MESS
Also hence why “idk validity” was added, basically opened the floor to people checking me on the info, which you swiftly did
mental lotus
I'd do your own checks too (since the point of the server is research and I assume you want to research)
jagged niche
Was also informed about where to check for proper updates since I’m not fluent in all things firefighting. Will keep it in mind for the future
hardy geyser
It looks like Biden is in LA right now.
As of now, President Biden remains at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), though it’s unclear whether the trip will be rescheduled. No further details have been provided by the White House at this time.
jagged niche
Was also informed about where to check for proper updates since I’m not fluent i...
Still doesnt diminish the horrible situation that is happening over there
unborn timber
https://x.com/ShorealoneFilms/status/1876856518471012680
DISTRESSING CONTENT
Freelance journalist cut off by fire, calling mayday via Twitter.
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jagged niche
||https://fixupx.com/Lot71/status/1876860547053879802
|| puc from airplane, nabbed from Project Owl
unborn timber
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(Literal top of a mountain- expected gusts for populated areas will be much lower- 100 MPH at most in valleys atm.)
(But if this wind speed is verified, one of the highest non-tornadic wind gusts recorded in recent history.)
jagged niche
unborn timber
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unborn timber
https://x.com/LosAngeles_Scan/status/1876869487644774532?t=gxwopng9hHnc7nPhYmhAB...
hotspot mapping
limber mesa
Bulldozer clearing Sunset of gridlocked cars
https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DEjH7Q2pioI/?igsh=aW1nOHdxbGhkaDRu
unborn timber
So they've stopped updating the estimated fire perimeter since late Tues evening- but VIIRS has a good rough scope
limber mesa
Meanwhile in the Plains we're freezing our asses off. Puts a fine point on the extremes that climate change is bringing us
unborn timber
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slow jasper
random question: Why is weather considered off-topic?
unborn timber
random question: Why is weather considered off-topic?
mainly because it's sporadic and when it does hit- lot of news in a very short period of time, but most of the year- idle chit chat about snow or local events. This channel originally started for me to nerd out about tornado geolocations.
(Might also be a bit related to the fact that you can "self monitor" weather events a little easier than most news events, thanks to the radars being open to the public.)
quaint flame
Alright folks resource time
You can pull this feed up in VLC or on http://vidgrid.tk.gg https://abcnews-streams.akamaized.net/hls/live/2023560/abcnews1/master.m3u8
it's ABC's live raw feed from the fires
https://ops.alertcalifornia.org/tileset/19492
Custom tile display of Palisades Fire coverage
Palisades Fire scanner https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/38651
Eaton Fire scanner https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/38653
unborn timber
unborn timber
Alright folks resource time
Adding onto this- good fire cam resource for the area.
unborn timber
https://fxtwitter.com/Marios_WX/status/1877006083639611856
When helicopters can fly safely again- there will be some absolutely devastating aerial pics.
unborn timber
Geolocated to (34.04720212481078, -118.52600777759974) moving south.
languid belfry
oh wow
unborn timber
***OLD POST*** 6 hours ago it was *bad*- People understood the threat, but unfor...
For context, this image of gridlocked traffic yesterday is in the red circle. Pin is where that geolocated footage above is.
A notable section of this area is likely damaged.
tacit geode
unborn timber
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unborn timber
https://x.com/abc7gabe/status/1877057985790226899/photo/2
Looking at 34.045136720511834, -118.52340306811435, facing SE.
Area in question in relation to the last perimeter update.
karmic flame
Wow, that is awful. Good work to id
To give an idea of the nominal loss here, here is Zillows estimated values for the residential properties on one block in your pic. It’s about 40m plus some commercial properties.
unborn timber
Yeah this will make a good effort at being the most costliest wildfire in American history, probably.
Current "record" is the 2018 Camp Fire (aka the Paradise Fire)- $16.65 billion estimated in damages.
unborn timber
Geoconfirmed to (34.0368, -118.5297) check twitter post for verification images.
https://x.com/Acedog112/status/1877101636096549367
I'd estimate this entire dotted section is significantly damaged if not destroyed.
unborn timber
The estimated perimeter map was updated finally.
unborn timber
Getty Images have some wild photos i'm attempting to geolocate.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/person-uses-a-garden-hose-in-an-effort-to-save-a-news-photo/2192997154
karmic flame
Eaton fire is getting deep into the suburbs: Fire at 2 dragons martial arts on KTLA. Location: 2490 N. Lake Ave. Altadena, CA 91101
karmic flame
Getty Images have some wild photos i'm attempting to geolocate.
<https://www.get...
If you have others you want help to find, I'm happy to give it a try.
Its a crazy fire: https://bsky.app/profile/ivymike.bsky.social/post/3lfbebonra22q
austere verge
More photos of the aftermath of the Palisades fire, posted by the local newspaper the Palisadian Post on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/palisadian.post/posts/pfbid035PQL1h2FutKKvAoMDcirUVQKZVmujS9rj39c7j2Qm3k6w8o2dxLuwW2dFUC3C3fxl
Although I grew up there, it's very hard to recognize the buildings!
karmic flame
Chase bank in downtown Palisades on fire with crew fighting: 15209 La Cruz Dr, Los Angeles, California
https://bsky.app/profile/plasticjesusart.bsky.social/post/3lfbeecq7xc26
tacit geode
https://bsky.app/profile/jimmyalto.bsky.social/post/3lfb56rqz322x
I've got the end of the video to here -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zugG6N6tynWnAZvm9
I doubt the $25m figure is right but still there's a lot of homes gone here, pretty far away from palisades
karmic flame
Another view that is consistent with @unborn timber 's suggestion of damaged area. Air above Iliff St. & Bestor Blvd in Palisades. Could be a couple blocks closer to sea.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/34°03'04.6"N+118°31'11.8"W/@34.0512923,-118.5248249,936m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m7!1m2!2m1!1sChase+Bank!3m3!8m2!3d34.051288!4d-118.519954!5m1!1e2?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEwNi4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
https://bsky.app/profile/noagendamedia.bsky.social/post/3lfbebndgwh2y
karmic flame
https://bsky.app/profile/jimmyalto.bsky.social/post/3lfb56rqz322x
I've got the ...
Zillow has this strip as 2-8 million estimated. I checked history of the highest estimated prices and found up to ~5 million prices. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/19858-Pacific-Coast-Hwy-Malibu-CA-90265/20551608_zpid/
I'd agree with your judgment.
karmic flame
KTLA has a cool thing with their helicopter camera. It drops a road map over the live image: https://ktla.com/on-air/live-streaming/
unborn timber
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unborn timber
This is such a weird fire event- all of the people not evacuating and effectively working as "localized" firefighting squads for their neighborhoods is very effective, at least on first glance. It is effectively full guerilla warfare against the elements currently.
left bridge
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Some Maxar imagery showing some of the preliminary damage. Sort of insane to see how widespread it is for such a highly populated area
hardy geyser
This video seems to be filmed by someone on a bicycle. It's hard to find words for the level of loss in this video. If I have time I will try to map this out, maybe starting around 15:50 where the damage begins to be shown. Before this point in the video, the amount of material and personnel seen in this staging area is staggering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfAY0x5CT7k
grizzled storm
yesterday vs today
hardy geyser
This video seems to be filmed by someone on a bicycle. It's hard to find words f...
16:49 is at 16001 CA-1
Los Angeles, California (34.0367942,-118.5376133)
swift nymph
Would this or #disinfo-and-propaganda be an appropriate place to claims of suspected simultaneous arson?
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grizzled storm
34,0089077, -118,4883294
leaden mountain
Would this or <#709944967979597886> be an appropriate place to claims of suspect...
What is your evidence that this is MDM?
swift nymph
What is your evidence that this is MDM?
I don't know that it is or not, I'm saying that that claim he's making doesn't immediately seem verified by the footage he's providing, so it could be good to try to verify if it is or isn't MDM
leaden mountain
I don't know that it is or not, I'm saying that that claim he's making doesn't i...
So you're looking for tips on how to research this? I'd keep that request here.
If you find a way to prove it, you can post a write-up in #show-your-work . Although arson investigation is a very specialised field, so be very careful.
unborn timber
New weirdest thing i've ever used to geolocate- tree branches
https://fxtwitter.com/TannerCharlesMN/status/1877197071809204697
tropic leaf
hardy geyser
New weirdest thing i've ever used to geolocate- ***tree branches***
https://fxt...
Welcome to the club.
unborn timber
Warning if you're looking into the event
The Weather Channel accidently showed a fatality on air, fully burned to the point of skeletonization (?- there's likely a term for this, but completely burned to the point where bones are the only thing left.)
limber mesa
LA Metro fares cancelled due to infrastructure damage
https://bsky.app/profile/lapublicpress.bsky.social/post/3lfdftmvttk2w
unborn timber
Body recovery ongoing in Malibu.
Body recovery- does not directly show it, but adding NSFW just in case.
||https://x.com/jeremyreporter/status/1877458247415685599||
Additional image
||https://x.com/GigiGraciette/status/1877457258251952364/photo/1||
blazing flame
grave spear
Thank you, fire watchers!
tacit geode
tropic leaf
Just in case this helps, https://lacounty.gov/emergency/
latent sigil
https://x.com/BNODesk/status/1877506958866936281
Honestly- mood.
The Follow Up Alert ...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/772656322431942687/1327075313842126938/Screenshot_20250109-161938.png?ex=6781beb2&is=67806d32&hm=a70ebdb38756228f6dfa3e28bf1c56a1f9257ed9cb891d21e89d1d0dda0d7455&
silent nymph
someone is going to jail for a long time
plane landed safely
https://www.broadcastify.com/dashboards/?uuid=c44d6768-cdce-11ef-9e04-0e98d5b32039&t=7142
Live scanner for the fire response
paper blade
Some duct tape will get that in the air again
leaden mountain
Speed tape, but I'm not sure this is within specifications. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_tape
limber mesa
Not for structural damage like that no
Speedtape is just for pinning something down temporarily
or fixing a panel gap
late belfry
unborn timber
400-megapixel image of the aftermath of the Palisade area.- Very handy for cross checking if a suspected house is still standing
I will be using this to specifically map destroyed structures,
unborn timber
I have so fucking more left to map.
unborn timber
Calling it quits for today. I'd estimate over 1,000 structures in the area I went over alone. I stopped counting for sanity's sake. 99% of the northern segment of this area is leveled.
This segment had the most "structure survivors." in the northern destruction, mapping this felt like mapping an inverse tornado path. Very curious to see if these were patches of people who stayed behind who held out together (Specifically that stretch of 9 houses in a cluster along Bester BLVD, Whitfield AVE, and up onto Mc Kendree AVE)
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blazing flame
apparently Amtrak’s continuing with their pre-scheduled track maintenance in the LA area
https://bsky.app/profile/keribla.bsky.social/post/3lfih253aa224
the Amtrak track closures page
https://www.pacificsurfliner.com/plan-your-trip/alerts/travel-advisories/#trackclosures
unborn timber
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unborn timber
Does anyone have a current % of containment for this fire?
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unkempt jasper
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silent nymph
I'm guessing EW isn't a solution to not affect the aircrafts, why are people like this..
It's easy to track them down too since they all post it online
grizzled storm
theres now a fact checking site https://gavinnewsom.com/california-fire-facts/
unkempt jasper
Incident Management Situation Report
Sunday, January 12, 2025 – 0730 MDT
Status as of this morning:
https://www.nifc.gov/nicc-files/sitreprt.pdf
umbral thistle
Incident Management Situation Report
Sunday, January 12, 2025 – 0730 MDT
Status ...
Coming here to share link to site where these are available https://www.nifc.gov
unkempt jasper
Coming here to share link to site where these are available https://www.nifc.gov
Yeah, a lot of good info and resources there. LA fires have already had more reported drone incursions than all of 2024 fires, and the peak year of 2016 (41 vs 48)
unkempt jasper
theres now a fact checking site https://gavinnewsom.com/california-fire-facts/
Wild that his fact check website has a "fact" that is demonstrably wrong.
FACT: Wildland firefighters don’t use hydrants — they use water tenders. And that is what has been used to ensure continued water access. Three million gallons of water were stored in three large tanks for fire hydrants in the area before the Palisades fire, but the supply was exhausted because of the extraordinary nature of this hurricane-force firestorm.
Even Type 6 engines (Modified pickup trucks to have water tanks and pumps, smallest of wildland firefighting engines) have tools to access fire hydrants. I worked on a Type 6 and we'd use fire hydrants to refill if that was the easiest available source. Having the ability to refill from a water source (hydrant, pond, lake, river, etc) directly rather than waiting on a tender is a nice thing to have, especially depending on how close that source is versus waiting on a tender to come to you. Tenders can also refill at hydrants
tropic leaf
unkempt jasper
Gift link: https://wapo.st/3Ci3ASa
Despite that — and warnings of an intense and dangerous wind event last week — a Los Angeles Fire Department spokesman told The Post on Friday that it was not the department’s practice to maintain patrols of past fire sites, even for a few days after fires have gone cold.
tender verge
Wild that his fact check website has a "fact" that is demonstrably wrong.
> FAC...
Perhaps there was some confusion over the difference between using a hydrant directly vs filling at hydrants.
The wildland fires I fought never used hydrants, but only because other water sources were closer. I can imagine sending a tender to a hydrant for refills when working in proximity to a municipal water system.
unkempt jasper
Perhaps there was some confusion over the difference between using a hydrant dir...
Maybe. That also isn't an official government page and is just a Gavin Newsom campaign page ("PAID FOR BY NEWSOM FOR CALIFORNIA"), so maybe they couldn't have any actual SMEs review it
unborn timber
PDS Red Flag warning 2 days in advance 
unborn timber
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unkempt jasper
Incident Management Situation Report
Sunday, January 12, 2025 – 0730 MDT
Status ...
Incident Management Situation Report
Monday, January 13, 2025 – 0730 MDT
https://www.nifc.gov/nicc-files/sitreprt.pdf
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unborn timber
***Body recovery***- does not directly show it, but adding NSFW just in case.
|...
Turns out the victim in this area was fairly well known locally.
Stayed behind defending his home, found deceased with his kitten.
blazing flame
spice lodge
hey @unborn timber have you seen the local gov created its own map: https://recovery.lacounty.gov/eaton-fire/
Want to add I really appreciate what you are doing and I imagine this community will assist immensely but also curious how to support this map advertised to residents. It does have some photo documentation.
Also @everyone I work in Altadena and am affected by the Eaton fire. If anyone has any questions just wanted you all to know.
A group of local researchers is organizing under the name Resilience Alliance-- please follow if you can:
unborn timber
Want to add I really appreciate what you are doing and I imagine this community ...
It appears to be mapped very similarly to how the NWS does tornado assessments- looks to be mostly internally vetted sources (sending someone down, describing the damage, take a photo)
In fact- this might be partially surveyed by the NWS.
Side gripe- i dont know why the hell the NWS can't use drones for assessing damage. (Like- ever, Heli trip, or satellite scan is aight- but everything else has to be in person. It's something Canada does that I wish we'd adopt.)
spice lodge
I do think you are right as I was at a home nearby and CalFire was going door to door to assess damage and take photos.
I think the drones create an issue with the helicopters who are getting up the mountain with water etc.
Given its "active fire"
unborn timber
I think the drones create an issue with the helicopters who are getting up the m...
For areas where fires are still active- yes, but i'm mainly referring to tornado surveys, which are typically next day affairs.
spice lodge
I see. Got it. There have been drone videos made I've seen online so maybe they will come in time.
unborn timber
I personally use it a lot for my mapping efforts (again- mainly tornado projects)- but the NWS tends to not use them even when sent the footage by the original filmer.
(Depends per office, but a majority wont.)
spice lodge
We used them to map the development we are advocating to conserve. It allowed a lumion viewer where you can move around and all these other outputs like a rendering of elevation and videos and more.
grizzled storm
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mental lotus
https://x.com/billdmccarthy/status/1879584741256831162?t=QkK04Zn5S_BM2v_URLrzGw&...
Big hurricane Katrina vibes
spice lodge
@mental lotus just confirming the wildfire office hours -- was yesterday?
mental lotus
<@126386632868888577> just confirming the wildfire office hours -- was yesterday...
Yes
grizzled storm
It's recorded
spice lodge
Thank you @grizzled storm n where might I find a link
grizzled storm
Thank you <@651761310656364545> n where might I find a link
It's not recorded, I forgot the ?. But Aram did a fire talk that is somewhere, I will search for it
Here's is an article by Agnes that may also be interesting. You can customize your dashboard additional for wildfire. I will also link it in a minute. https://www.bellingcat.com/resources/2025/01/10/satellite-imagery-bands-guide/?utm_source=discord
blazing flame
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1880298361066266712?t=yC9ZaUPuybTc3pYeaSp76w&s=19
semi-related & historical, but rhymes https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/the-assault-on-salt-82694441/
unborn timber
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spice lodge
hello all does anyone know of a gis platform or layers for copernicus that would reveal levels of lead, etc. in the ash in Los Angeles? We are trying to establish areas of special concern and priority
leaden mountain
hello all does anyone know of a gis platform or layers for copernicus that would...
Hi, just for your information: the @ everyone notification does not work here. We do not want people notifying the entire server for every question. You can simply ask your question in the relevant channel, which you did.
spice lodge
Oh thanks I thought it was thread specific, apologies @leaden mountain
leaden mountain
hello all does anyone know of a gis platform or layers for copernicus that would...
You could also ask in #tools-and-sites by the way. Not everyone may check in here.
unborn timber
Brutal period for southern Cali lately, this is like day 4-5 of being under the gun.
severe kernel
What does RH stand for in this context?
tender verge
What does RH stand for in this context?
Relative Humidity.
They seem to be calling for 15% or lower. IIRC, risk climbs rapidly as the RH drops below 30%.
The basic idea is that low humidity sucks moisture out of the vegetation. And moisture loss is accelerated by wind, so those numbers look pretty scary to me.
severe kernel
Oh that makes sense. Thanks!
unkempt jasper
unborn timber
(I was setting up v. 1.0 of Global Quake and this gave me a damn heart attack, haven't configured my alerts to be quieter yet.)
unborn timber
X
(European sorta version of the NWS's public forecasting network will no longer issue their forecasts for a fear of it being misconstrued.)
unborn timber
(European sorta version of the NWS's public forecasting network will no longer i...
Notably- this is not governmentally ran, I believe it's a bunch of universities.
unborn timber
i'm going insane
https://www.flgov.com/eog/news/press/2025/note-press-executive-order-number-25-13-emergency-management-gulf-winter-weather
State of Emergency issued for FL for the upcoming winter storm system, specifically uses the phrase "Gulf of America"
As far as I can tell- every NWS office is still using the phrase Gulf of Mexico, thank god.
This includes the NWS offices covering FL, including- MOB, TBW, MFL, (TAE, KEY and JAX just refer to it as "the Gulf" or "The Gulf Coast", MLB straight up avoids mentioning it)
unborn timber
welp. hot off the presses. (Section below this states that w/in 30 days, the Secretary of the Interior shall take all appropriate actions to rename the Gulf, and to update the GNIS, and in turn, all federal references. Likely including the NWS if this doesn't get stopped)
grizzled storm
I have so many questions
hardy geyser
From what I have learned after a little digging, the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, under the United States Geographic Survey (USGS) is responsible for place names. I’m not sure if an executive order can cut it.
https://www.usgs.gov/us-board-on-geographic-names
The membership of the Board shall include one representative from each of the Departments of State, Defense, Interior, Agriculture, and Commerce, and from the Government Publishing Office, the United States Postal Service, and the Library of Congress. The Board may also include representatives from such Federal agencies as the Secretary, upon recommendation of the Board, shall from time to time find desirable, even though these agencies are in the departments otherwise represented on the Board. The members of the Board shall be appointed by the respective heads of the departments or independent agencies that they represent.
This would be a process that could take a considerable amount of time to finalize.
unborn timber
From what I have learned after a little digging, the U.S. Board on Geographic Na...
Yeah- they manage the GNIS (And are also the main "Earthquake" sorta division which is where most laypeople know em from)
hardy geyser
And, it would take considerable resources ($) to change all of the maps, documentation, MOAs, legal documents regarding international partners, and so on.
grizzled storm
unborn timber
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slow jasper
spice lodge
https://rupamarya.substack.com/p/as-the-world-burns
this link is not working for me
limber mesa
might have been deleted
slow jasper
Hmm it does appear to have been deleted. Sad.
unborn timber
temp this morning (around 6* AM EST)
(Good typo, me, 10/10.)
limber mesa
sorry Kansas you don't get temperature
tacit geode
Bit windy in Ireland
unborn timber
Taiwan is just gettin rattled lately
blazing flame
grim salmon
Two videos from residents of Pacific palisades whose home was destroyed - helps give context to how fast the fire swept into certain areas. Video 1: https://www.instagram.com/share/_gvkHsI1L
unborn timber
limber mesa
bweh
jagged niche
Goddamnit I forgot the name of that program…
unborn timber
Goddamnit I forgot the name of that program…
GlobalQuake!
You can either run a whole personal instance which will absolutely eat up your RAM- ooor just use the public YT livestream https://www.youtube.com/@GlobalQuake which is what I recommend for like 99.999% of people, the standalone program is pure nerd shit* and the livestream has everything you'd likely need anyways.
(*I can say this as the local weather/ geological phenomena nerd.)
Fair warning- there will be alarms and whoops if the program detects an earthquake (This is configurable in the standalone program.) , and typically louder ones for more notable quakes, so like.. don't have it at max volume obviously unless if you like giving yourself a heart attack for a M5.0 half way across the world from you.
jagged niche
You can either run a whole personal instance which will absolutely eat up your R...
“Pure nerd shit”
Aka: the best type of nerd shit. The unadulterated shenanigans of information 😄
languid belfry
so cool, thanks for sharing
when the triangles (those are monitoring stations, right?) light up and flash ,that means that they've dected seismic activity?
grim salmon
USGS put this at a 3.9
unborn timber
when the triangles (those are monitoring stations, right?) light up and flash ,t...
If they flash with a green box around them- that's the system noticing "hey these are all showin somethin at around the "same time" (oversimplification, you should see a "wave effect")
There should also be a flashing box somewhere else that is where the estimated epicenter would be if they are seeing the same event. (but typically if it's not at the next stage, usually a false alarm)
If enough stations register an event- it starts acting like it is an earthquake, estimating the epicenter and intensity using all of the stations
OLD SCREENSHOT FOR EXPLAINING THE UI-
(Also for future searching- " GLOBALQUAKE UI ")
1- Max estimated "felt" intensity
2- "Letter grade"- this is how confident GlobalQuake is in it's own assessment, the more stations reporting matching data, the higher that grade gets. (I typically ignore all "events" with a rating of D or lower)
3-"Estimated Magnitude"- Uses each station individually and plots out what each station thinks it just felt, (may include events such as "we felt a lil shake here, systems estimate it to be x miles away, therefore M7.0 when it was much closer and is actually like a 3- Overall, the stations should overall agree on a rough intensity)
4-"Additional Info"- This includes the "range of error" for the positioning of the epicenter(in all 3 axis), the number of stations that felt it, and how many are agreeing they felt something (good to catch stations that should have felt something, and didn't, usually indicates a potential false alarm- or a downed station due to [usually] power loss or repair.
5- "Local estimated intensity"- Same color scale as the typical MMI scale, if you were standing in this area, the program estimates you'd feel it at that intensity.
6- "Felt by"- Self explanatory, includes estimated magnitude, and how many may have felt it (and how mant may have felt heavy shaking)
Adding onto this- explaining the sounds you may hear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNehu6z-faE
This is mostly for @languid belfry and hopefully this wont ping ya since I edited this in.
You may see blue, red and green rings propagate out from stronger earthquakes- you don't really have to worry about that- that is quite literally the "speed" of the earthquake as it crosses the surface of the earth. (very brutal oversimplification) Good if you're close to a major earthquake- this is the same sorta system governments use to send out those alerts, not really helpful anytime else unless you're a big nerd and want to measure it yourself/ see it on a station near you (wait until it crosses your local station, then read the output)
also important note that I should add- GlobalQuake (on default settings and permissions from laboratories) is typically on around a 30 second delay, this is a GREAT verification/ international "hey something may have happened" tool- and maybe a good warning tool in specific cases, but your local government will likely have the timing beat.
jagged niche
The explination is why I love being in this server
unborn timber
I often joke that if a nuke goes off somewhere- earthquake nerds might be the first to pick up on it. (and then me like 2 minutes later)
unborn timber
USGS put this at a 3.9
Also a good note- Global Quake is good, but as you can notice- not a lot of stations. It pulls from stations that willingly put out their data to the public for free which is like, majority USA, EU, AUS, and specifically NZ lmao, it's actually tamed down on the public release, but they have thousands set to public, any lil M1.5-M2.0 (which are hardly felt by anyone ever get caught in a heartbeat at any place in NZ)
Governments will have so much more available to them so always lean towards their assessments once they come out.
grim salmon
Gonna drop this here, in case it is helpful in finding more stations and other resources: https://www.earthscope.org/
unborn timber
also of note- you may also find great programs/ resources for specific countries- for example, JQuake, which focuses entirely on Japan https://www.youtube.com/@JQuake
Do some digging, you might find somethin cool out and about!
silent nymph
I often joke that if a nuke goes off somewhere- earthquake nerds *might* be the ...
this made me curious so i looked, and its true they can indeed pick up underground nuke tests, and can even pick up smaller nuke tests if they have access to enough sensors
https://eos.org/articles/could-seismic-networks-reveal-hard-to-detect-nuclear-tests
unborn timber
My hobby may be coming to an end. Heartbroken. I may be leaving the USA fairly soon so I may go quiet.
May god have mercy on the states and her people.
leaden mountain
My hobby may be coming to an end. Heartbroken. I may be leaving the USA fairly s...
I can inform you some places outside the US also have weather and internet. 😉
But seriously, I'm sorry and I hope all goes well.
unborn timber
Hawaii saw a bit of a severe weather event just off the coast today.
unborn timber
Hawaii saw a bit of a severe weather event *just off the coast* today.
meanwhile...
absolutely nothin for the past few hours- Forecast was downgraded from 5% to 2% for the overnight period.
unborn timber
Seems like Oklahoma is attempting to regulate storm chasers who are employed directly by news organizations (which, very important for live updates in severe weather events, usually freelance work)
blazing flame
unborn timber
One segment of Palisades
unborn timber
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limber mesa
holy
unborn timber
Majority of these are weaker and probably didn't do too much damage (upper limit of around M4.5 so far, majority sub M3.0), but there is concern that it may be a sign of somethin else about to happen (either a larger quake, or a volcanic eruption- although the underlying consensus is probably not volcanic related)
But for either scenario- a tsunami would probably be the greatest concern if something happened
unborn timber
tl;dr- Weird thing happening- everyone's sorta watching in case it is a sign of something worse- could very much end up fizzling out as well- no one's sure. Just a notable oddity atm
Will say though- attempting to use my version of GlobalQuake is near impossible unless I start filtering (Image #1- The last 1,000 earthquakes world wide (aka- no filtering)
#2- Limited to the last 48 hours
#3- Limited to the past 5. (Still a little cluttered!)
Might have to turn old quakes off for a bit
limber mesa
yeah I'm interested to see if it's a precursor or just fades
grim salmon
tacit geode
Majority of these are weaker and probably didn't do *too much* damage (upper lim...
Upper limit is seems to be upto 5.1 now
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000pb0e/executive
Edit: 5.3 now
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000pb82/executive
silent nymph
Newly discovered Tunguska like asteroid has a currently estimated 1.3% chance of hitting earth in 2032
more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_YR4
impact risk corridor
important note: this is preliminary calculations, the asteroid is currently moving away from earth. more precise estimates will be available when it comes back. This is what happened in 2004 with apophis. back then the initial estimate was a 2.7% chance of it hitting earth, and it has since been downgraded to zero chance. In other words, dont panic yet
grim salmon
So just fyi for the purposes of data - NOAA has been breached by Musk and his wrecking crew
grim salmon
Presently, climate.gov is still up, but is likely in danger. Get whatever data you need sooner rather than later. I don’t know who has been archiving or saving the data from that website.
umbral thistle
News video from water managers in CA about Trumps water release and the damage done https://www.threads.net/@carm1215/post/DFvrj6lyfHg?xmt=AQGzpVwFBfpLTlFPfteZBe-IrtSRy457SBo-8DuA5O1yyw
silent nymph
Newly discovered Tunguska like asteroid has a currently estimated 1.3% chance of...
space agencies raised it to 2.1%
tacit geode
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000pcdl/
7.6 near the Cayman islands
unborn timber
No real human impacts expected for this one- occurred in the ocean, in a manor that didn't support tsunamis, a rare "peaceful" strong one imo.
limber mesa
sometimes the ocean just goes boom
unborn timber
jagged niche
@unborn timber taking a peek at the GlobalQuake livestream and dang theres plenty near Greece rn
unborn timber
yup, still goin on lol
jagged niche
For some reason theres plenty in west Tx too :/
languid belfry
Getting ready for the snow storm here in Toronto
unborn timber
We might get a little fucked (scientific term) in the mountains here too btw- parts of KY already had record (daily) rainfall rates yesterday, some areas may also get packed w/ either more rain or snow (depends how north you get.)
it's valley life- we just avoid the low bits and hope no rocks start sliding 🤠 (Most of my local area is more elevated than the river, buuut a few houses/ areas consistently get flooded every couple years)
i am doin my thing in the other servers as usual
This is actually a more "recent" hypothesis (like paper published 2023/2024) from a few people who I somewhat have talked to before!
Nudger events!
(storm gets behind another storm's hook echo- "bumps" the "important storm" forwards into it's own inflow, storm starts wrappin up real quickly and tends to produce a tornado)
https://fxtwitter.com/CameronJNixon/status/1781364309215281461
(old gif for example)
jagged niche
Pretty intense thunderstorm passed by and woke up to it banging at my house this morninghttps://x.com/iembot_fwd/status/1889681216342991158
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unborn timber
There's actually 2 tornado watches issued rn (more "broad" of a warning- "this area may see higher than average chances for a tornado"- which then will be given a tornado warning within said watch)
70/60 on that 2nd one is certainly 👀
unborn timber
Yeah, prolly about to get some tornados in MS- we're a tiny bit ahead of the expected "start time" and there's already a cell churnin
Tibbie aint never do me wrong i tell ya- if you ever wanna chase Dixie head towards that area I promise ya. it'll be the best worst experience in your life.
(Nothin but TREES in that area.)
Oooh that is a mighty tight velocity couplet, I'd be amazed if this doesn't produce something.
. .pockets of rotations I'm watching off this one radar.
grim salmon
For some reason theres plenty in west Tx too :/
Fracking?
jagged niche
Fracking?
Fracking or not (basically guaranteed that), its weird seeing a spike in the middle of an otherwise stable area
grim salmon
Fracking or not (basically guaranteed that), its weird seeing a spike in the mid...
Well that’s why I suggested fracking. Also possible injection wells for waste. Fractracker is a good source for identifying possible oil and gas operations locations
jagged niche
Well that’s why I suggested fracking. Also possible injection wells for waste. F...
At the same time, im more worried about the shenanigans off Greece at the moment
unborn timber
Likely a strong if not violent tornado just S of Coffeeville, AL now.
PDS issued for this one
unborn timber
Saturday discussion.
Leaning more towards a damaging straight-line event, but tornado risk is also noted.
blazing flame
unborn timber
Excessive Rainfall outlook for Saturday
We may be looking at another notable if not historic flooding event for the Appalachians (Details to be fleshed out over the next few days as confidence in the model runs grow.)
Will it be 10-12 ft bad like in 2020? Prolly not, but flash flooding on a smaller scale could still be quite damaging for the local areas.
My main concern is how sudden it may get flooded, in 2020 it was a real damn slow creep over the prior weeks.
unborn timber
That's not good (Greece)
Consistent shaking now, certainly a change in the "event" type.
grim salmon
unborn timber
unborn timber
Daily rainfall totals for Central KY and TN (3 hours old)
unborn timber
more funny but this dude got ripped into immediately
unborn timber
I'm going to be out, helping local areas, flooding quick here
I'd wager the rivers already up 6-7 ft
mystic wolf
Take care and don't do anything stupid
unborn timber
Some of the inlets for the Cumberland River have reversed the river flooding into them I have never seen the water this fast
We're still at an estimated 6 maybe 7 ft for the Cumberland River yeah
grim salmon
Omg wow
unborn timber
There's debris in the river, small stuff like a child's playground slide, ice coolers, small stuff like that
grim salmon
This is TN?
unborn timber
Southern KY
grim salmon
Got it
unborn timber
Appalachia
leaden mountain
What Palt said.
mystic wolf
I'm not an expert but I would say that the level of moisture is a bit higher than it should.
unborn timber
Had to hitchhike home, 23.5 ft crest at the moment, forecasted to get around 31-32 dt
Will head back out tomorrow
No structural damage seen this trip, saw one capsized boat (looked to still be partially attached to a trailer), and a fair bit of "light debris" in the river (ex. Ice coolers, plastic playground slides, tree trunks, etc)
So someone lost shit, but not their entire house/ mobile home it seems
Back in 2020 we had entire mobile homes get washed out, real nasty scene, think we had like 10-15 deaths that event. (Around a 30 ft crest back then too.)
unborn timber
unborn timber
unborn timber
some areas are already past their predictions
grim salmon
How’d things go overnight?
unborn timber
How’d things go overnight?
I was asleep in pure ache pains, checking on this new
28 ft now. expected to still creep up to 31/32 for my local area,
unborn timber
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File is at https://www.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2024-01/NOAA_Radar_Next-Radar_Next_Program_242901.pdf if you want to see it yourself.
unborn timber
so google maps updated their Los Angeles satellite view..
unborn timber
so google maps updated their Los Angeles satellite view..
Updated my mapping, still so much to do- All new additions in blue.
close zoom on the elephant in the room, wrote off the entire stretch of land.
silent nymph
YR4 impact risk is still climbing, currently at 1/35. JWST is set to observe it in infrared light in early march and a second time in May, enabling scientists to more accuratly measure it's size and it's temperature as it moves away from the sun. We wont have accurate prediction results til then.
source: https://blogs.esa.int/rocketscience/2025/02/10/james-webb-space-telescope-will-study-asteroid-2024-yr4/
unborn timber
(Photos were taken yesterday)
Water's risen another couple of ft, est 30/31 atm, it's gonna hold at this height for a day or two and slowly recede, but it's currently snowing here
unborn timber
Starting to recede! around 27-28 ft, will continue to lower over the next few days, got some nice snow pics i'll export soon ™️
severe kernel
Stay safe out there. This vid from Detroit is wild
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/EQtgxiIp4F
jagged niche
holy shit the way my mood CHANGED when i saw how high this was
grim salmon
Stay safe out there. This vid from Detroit is wild
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/mi...
What the…..?!
jagged niche
What the…..?!
Yes I know right? Insane
grim salmon
Yes I know right? Insane
Did it rain…..? Or did something back up?
jagged niche
Heard something backed up, + freezing temps caused all this
grim salmon
Saw a claim that it is more likely to hit the moon now. I have not had a chance to source that claim - if anyone has info, that would be appreciated
pliant zenith
earlier it was said that it had 1.2% probability of hitting the moon but I assume that's been since changed with additional observations
silent nymph
earlier it was said that it had 1.2% probability of hitting the moon but I assum...
you can find up to date data and history plots for each near earth object here: https://neo.ssa.esa.int/risk-list
pliant zenith
you can find up to date data and history plots for each near earth object here: ...
if you're seeing impact probability for hitting the moon, do tell me where to find it
unborn timber
Tldr: Weather nerds I respect very dearly are noticing a close resemblance in the overall weather pattern (that is currently forecasted) as the 2011 tornado season.
(which, yes- did have the Super Outbreak in the southern USA, but a majority of the tornado setups were rain wrapped blobs of mess, including tornadoes such as the Joplin EF5)
limber mesa
ah, right. I almost forgot :P
slow jasper
Fascinating
unborn timber
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unborn timber
Also if we gut the NWS over here- hopefully EU steps up, there'd be a mighty fine pool of scientists....
unborn timber
it's going great in other servers right now 🙃
(Most of my stormchasing/ weather discords have a no politics rule but that is way out of the window, everyone's pissed off at this)
unborn timber
Like, this is what the NWS provides for "free" (read slightly lower)- they want $8 a month for it, ($80 a year price atm, 21.9178 cents a year)
NWS charges us like $3 a year in tax split. Effectively free (0.8219 cents a day, Accuweather wants to charge you 2,666.7% more than what the NWS does, for honestly not that much more.)
Accuweather's CEO is involved with Project 2025
btw fun note- if you want long range models, which are included in the next tier, Accuweather would effectively be upcharging you ($200 a year vs NOAA's like $3)
6,666.6666 (repeating) %
unborn timber
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limber mesa
Storm season is coming fast for Tornado Alley, I don't wanna think about the implications
unborn timber
Looking at an event Tuesday, 🚬
unborn timber
Strong quake in western TX?
USGS has it marked as M2.6, probably under strict review as some TX seismic stations are quite scuffed. (But this triggered so many, including a few in OK, i'd be shocked if this remains marked as M2.6)
unborn timber
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unborn timber
how today's event looks like to me, personally.
i cri.
(Looks very favorable for some beautiful tornadoes today over the open plain, in pure flat terrain with limited risk to any civilization.)
(I have work tomorrow in KY,)
unborn timber
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grim salmon
https://x.com/MatthewCappucci/status/1895601130513838422?t=R1OLYEIAjlzhy2boWphaX...
Great timing for tornado season 😒
unborn timber
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unborn timber
We're looking at a potential severe weather event on the 15th/16th.
I'll be more comfortable talking specifics in a few days if the models continue being consistent, but this current run certainly suggests a notable event.
(966mb low in fuckin Kansas wut)
^If that was over the Gulf, we'd likely be talking about a Cat 2 hurricane lmao
unborn timber
(Probably felt at around a 5-7 on the MMI scale for these poor guys, likely the only people who felt this one.)
grim salmon
unborn timber
So this is the first time we've had two 30% forecasts pop up within the same year (since like 2016 when this new system was introduced)
and they're back to back 30%'s- fun little stat there.
Very notable wording for 4 days out.
unborn timber
random strong FL tornado yesterday while Twitter was down lol, finally had a chance to pull the footage to geolocate this very close call a mail carrier (?) had.
unborn timber
So this is the first time we've had *two* 30% forecasts pop up within the same y...
...certainly will be watching to see how the AI models handle this, but first runs are a little insane (Specifically D5.)
grim salmon
Authored in part by NOAA scientists - this is originally from 2018 - https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/amsm/59/1/amsmonographs-d-18-0020.1.xml
unborn timber
limber mesa
I don't think "red flag warning" quite covers how severe the risk is
limber mesa
Meanwhile in Nebraska: https://x.com/NWSOmaha/status/1899770343600042113
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unborn timber
https://x.com/NWSLosAngeles/status/1900209996102615241
My superstition is flarin HARD rn
I always check for a random fuck off tornado west of the Rockies a day or two before the "big event"
usually there's always a fuck off tornado like this one.
there is absolutely no scientific backing to this hunch but it's never done me wrong so i'm in caveman mode.
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jagged niche
https://x.com/NWSLosAngeles/status/1900209996102615241
My superstition is flar...
I’m too curious: wdym by “big event”?
That’s way vague considering the context of weather
Earthquakes, a supercell, more tornadoes, hurricanes, there’s a lot of options
unborn timber
I’m too curious: wdym by “big event”?
it's looking very likely that a very high end severe weather event will occur Friday-Saturday
with the big day being Saturday, overnight.
All hazards (significant wind gusts, large hail, and strong if not intense tornadoes. per the NWS's assessment of the event.)
We have not had such a widespread upper end severe weather event of this caliber for many years, (most of MS and AL under the gun here.)
jagged niche
Best of luck to those living over there
jagged niche
I’ll have to manage that tomorrow… dang. Hope everyone in that region stays safe
limber mesa
I'm in the Critical part, prarie goes up fast if and when it does
unborn timber
James Spann talking about Alabama's severe weather risk for Fri-Sat,
He is most known for his coverage during the 4/27/11 super outbreak for the area.
unborn timber
IN THE EVENT that tomorrow ends up being very upper level for a major town/ city,
Probably will make one post in #usa-canada alerting everyone, but will keep most of the talking in here, as it likely would be a national/worldwide news event at that instance.
Today's risks, w/ closer zooms of the southern and northern risk areas for towns included. Everything within that black outline (which is the same outline as the 15% for tornadoes.) is hatching- aka indicating that there is atleast a 10% chance that a strong tornado could occur within this area. (SPECIFICALLY- w/in 25 miles of any given point.)
If you want to poke around in Google Earth like I do, you can pull the kml files from the NWS website. If you need help w/ pulling todays/tomorrows/ any historical event post 2002, lmk.
unborn timber
Mainly more confidence in the event verifying, unfortunately.
Straight-line Wind driven MDT for today, somewhat luckily for you, still could be mighty dangerous (ex- tree falling on a house), but overall tornado threat is on par with most typical past events- just keep updated, and if somethin starts looking iffy near you, take shelter and you'll likely be alright
The concern w/ tomorrow is that we may get the strength where (given a strong/ violent tornado hits them,) most people will not be able to survive unless they are in a very well built home/structure, or underground.
limber mesa
I am actually underground, basement apartment
unborn timber
Good deal- looks like mostly for you it'll be more of a general hinderance for your area luckily, you might have tree damage near ya, hail damage is possible, if you get both overlapping at the same time (timing is weird for some of these forecasted storms.) - could have some windows knocked out easily
unborn timber
@limber mesa YSK- that at that level, if people do start reporting wind gusts like 70+ MPH, you might have tornado sirens go off for that wind threat. Some people get caught off guard by that. Same principle though- take shelter, then you can check to see if it's tornadic or straight-line wind related.
limber mesa
yep, that's a thing that's happened before
I'll be at work, and I've been through this kind of thing before
it is wild for March though
unborn timber
It's unfortunately on par for Dixie, maybe a little early for the "big event", but it's Dixie season- I might be chasing in southern/ central KY, unsure how far north this event will try to fire tomorrow.
I can tell ya already i'm getting very little work done today.
unborn timber
there is one storm NE of Tulsa, OK that could spark a monumental wildfire, i can just about guantee you that many meterologists are watching that for the next few hours (until the severe weather threat up north.)
unborn timber
already gusting 70 MPH in some areas 👀
unborn timber
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jagged niche
https://x.com/NWSLosAngeles/status/1900209996102615241
My superstition is flar...
So that hunch of yours was right I suppose
slow jasper
unborn timber
slow jasper
What i would give to be a storm chaser
grim salmon
unborn timber
STORM-NET 3 hour Tornado probs (think of this as "% of certanity" of a tornado occuring somewhere here)
1 HR run is a lot of "eh" rn, so we're lookin a bit longer term here
unborn timber
What i would give to be a storm chaser
very deadly hobby tbh-
mainly car crashes.
slow jasper
very deadly hobby tbh-
mainly car crashes.
Mhm, it's perfect for me.
unborn timber
"Radar confirmed tornado"
unborn timber
PDS tornado watch issued.
unborn timber
"Radar confirmed tornado"
btw- this was a decently strong one, had debris up to 10k feet above ground level- atleast one report of entrapment in a "collapsed home"- no further details on that one, mostly rural pathing.
Still waiting to get damage pics outa the Duncan MO tornado.
unborn timber
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unborn timber
Many strong tornadoes so far today
Saint Louis under the gun.
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TOR-E issued for Van Buren.
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unborn timber
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... Just woke up, last night was very strong in terms of tornadoes
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The 2nd wave (3/15 at night) is expected to be higher in intensity.
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unborn timber
the car was muddy before it left the road. (Likely thrown off road, rolled, then thrown back across road.)
**GRAPHIC CONTENT- **injured horse seen in drone footage at 8:10
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unborn timber
mental lotus
As my power went out I thought, "better check the weather post on discord"
unborn timber
.....oh yeah historic day ahead likely
had a very notable if not a generational event last night
Still a few towns w/ no updates from em which is concerning
Today's outlook
mystic wolf
.....oh yeah historic day ahead likely
Im happy for you (?)
unborn timber
It's in the area I grew up in, so i'm highly on edge
mystic wolf
I guess its one of those moment "im so thrilled, but also not..."
unborn timber
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jagged niche
That sandstorm managed to reach all the way here in DFW. I knew sand travels far but dang
unborn timber
Literally maxed out the Tornado threat for the watch
jagged niche
Was just boutta ping you and ask if you seen the TX sandstorm videos recently
unborn timber
Was just boutta ping you and ask if you seen the TX sandstorm videos recently
Oh yeah the pileup in the panhandle was horrific.
jagged niche
Hope everyone survived
unborn timber
jagged niche
Literally maxed out the Tornado threat for the watch
Guess this doesn’t happen often judging from how much focus you’re putting into this
unborn timber
" numerous tornadoes are expected, including the potential for multiple intense to violent tornadoes (EF3-4+)"...
jagged niche
Well dang
unborn timber
Guess this doesn’t happen often judging from how much focus you’re putting into ...
3rd time in NWS history we've seen the 95/95 split for that.
1st time in my lifetime.
jagged niche
If everyone agrees “yo this shit gonna be SCARY”, it’s gonna be scary
And confirms that every single storm chaser with A N Y level of clout is gonna be there because of how rare this is
unborn timber
Hopin for this to bust out and do absolutely nothing
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And confirms that every single storm chaser with A N Y level of clout is gonna b...
A couple were hit/ had incidents last night
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Hopin for this to bust out and do absolutely nothing
One can hope but time holds the answer
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Up to 16 fatalities from last night, mix of tornadoes, flooding, wind events, and wildfire.
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Very strong tornado crossed the LA/MS state line, W of Tylertown, MS
Given a Tornado Emergency.
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Salem, MS is likely to be hit by this one soon.
pink box is where Salem is
arrow one is still ongoing.
my path estimation of all 3.
Taylorsville in danger.
North of Bassfield, MS
Another strong one immediately.
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Just the obvious tracks.
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Pic of the tylertown tornado https://x.com/Coach_Nick87/status/1900977475292692722
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Pic of the tylertown tornado https://x.com/Coach_Nick87/status/19009774752926927...
..There were 2 in the area 👉 👈 (about an hour apart.)
probably the longer tracked one (left)
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..There were 2 in the area 👉 👈 (about an hour apart.)
Oh dang I hadn't realized there were two. Absolutely brutal for the town
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pro tip- do not shelter next to a carpenter/ logging/ whoever would deal with 2x4's shop 👀
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very strong tornado either skimmed (or missed- hopefully) Gordo, AL.
closer zoom- timestamps are MM:SS in Zulu time.
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Likely died out- Full pathing of the Gordo tornado-
(The more "?"- the less likely I am [using the data available] that the tornado is active at that time.)
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@severe kernel gif showing both the tornadoes in that area- check that timestamp 😅
About 40 minutes apart- first one was still ongoing (was about to die out)
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Tornado barely missing the Birmingham AL radar
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Talladega, AL got a scare,
Very brief (but still probably strong) tornado juust NE of Winterboro, AL.
ohkay night time significants okay (NW of Montgomery.)
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ASTONISHING data from this tornado in Alabama! It's just about perfectly between two radars!
KMXX in purple, KBMX in green.
Montgomery might have barely caught the first frame,
Tornado would have started sometime between 02:33:29 (wasn't seen in prior KBMX scan.) and** 02:34:23 **(first scan seen via KMXX
54 second window where this tornado could have started!
Unbelievable dataset!
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..i wouldn't be against the event winding down right about now...
..i have a lot of data to sort through already 👉 👈
literally about 8 hours of data from 7 radars, so.... rough guess, upper limit of 54 hours worth of data.
Likely closer to like 25-30 because i wasn't pulling from all for the entire 8 hours
Prolly pulled from KDGX (Jackson, MS) for 6 hours straight there..
but all of the tornadoes I MANUALLY mapped today! (In order- all MS, NW AL, then the rest of AL.)
Red ones are a part of the overlap dataset!
(There's likely many I missed!)
i will finally slep. 
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Today's outlook
If you would like to read from the start of the event (3/15/2025) go here.
1:46 AM update- my power just went out lmao that's a sign to sleep.
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Preliminary 190 MPH EF4 👀
"a well built home (read: UB) was completely destroyed (read: DOD8+) "
This is what likely got the preliminary 190 MPH EF4 rating...
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inb4 downgraded to 170 MPH EF4 due to debris induced failure.
Tree got shotputted through their front foor.
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Calera EF1 vs where NWS BMX's office is. (Birmingham)
They had to take shelter and a neighboring NWS office took over issuing warnings for a bit.
Passed about 2 miles to their east,
limber mesa
what
literally we are three days out and there's a Winter Storm Watch for the area
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per https://www.facebook.com/daniela.dehaghani/videos/8677361872364824 at around 1:20 in-
"they haven't been able to find the plane"
There is apparently a missing small aircraft at the house w/ a prelim 190 MPH rating.
0:15 "The owner had a.. plane actually right there just for his hobby... all of that is gone aswell"
1:04 "He said the plane that he had- so this was kinda the runway... they haven't been able to find the plane so..."
gonna* horrific typo before forwarding. :C
Something weird happened at this property, (presumed) missing plane, one of the cleanest rootballings i've ever seen, and the upper level vehicle damage that isn't quite pulping the darn thing.
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mystic wolf
I think I will stay at Home.
limber mesa
I think I will stay at Home.
I feel the same
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There's been another stormchaser death today, unknown cause of death- medical related.
He was chasing a few days ago too, complete shock to the field atm, young kid, I think early/mid 20's.
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Non-zero chance this is my last post in here (for atleast a while.)
Long story, heading north. Will likely be off the grid for a week+, hopefully not longer than a month.
Edit: plans on hold for a lil bit 🙃
limber mesa
Snowfall rate just got measured at 2.3in/hr here
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map from wikipedia editor wxtrackercody of the tornado outbreak last week
112 tornadoes confirmed
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Rolling Fork was hit by an EF4 on March 24th, 2023 btw.
Just about the 2 year anniversary.
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Pretty rare Washington/Oregon tornado risk,
I think the first time they've had a 5%
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(Ignore the graphic breaking- no satellite coverage of the ocean from this specific one the NWS uses for this one.)
but 80% likely to have a (likely TSTM) watch issued
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tacit geode
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000pn9s/executive
Separate thread for this one?
leaden mountain
Usually we go for a separate thread if there is a large number of posts, especially when in a short time, and they are drowning out other conversations.
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The aftermath/ political side of things (given that this country was in an open state of public unrest not that long ago) will probably need one when we get there.
The rates of ground liquefaction* were probably insane given how close the epicenter was
leaden mountain
There are also some posts in #asia-pacific
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LIGHT GRAPHIC CONTENT Injury is extremely likely seen occuring in the footage, obscured immediately by water.
"People get swept away by water from a rooftop pool in Yunnan, China"
||https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1905589597821624563?t=cBpOhk4XvcBWCEtF222yoA&s=19||
Being safe because it's not impossible a fatality could have occurred here. (Particularly from the unlucky few directly under the thing before it started spreading, they likely got the full brunt of it to their upper body forcing them down into the pavement.)
vast dune
For the earthquake 👉 #1355158595800404221
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Looking at a very active week in terms of severe weather.
(D1, D2)
D4, D5
(D3 is a bit eh imo, but some people are lookin at it at bein a sleeper event.)
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if i had a nickel for every time i was woken up from a nap today by an earthquake near Tonga, i'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but i should really change the default alert noises in GlobalQuake
Everything above a M5.0 blares a massive siren w/ default noises. These occurred 3 hours apart, not that many people felt it, small tsunami warning. (That i think may already be cancelled.)
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Strong tornado near Old Mines, Missouri
Likely lifted- most of it's lifespan was over pure rural areas, a few structures may have been hit, today's likely going to be a long day.
eta 30-60 minutes and western TN is likely going to be very chaotic.
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Strong tornado near Old Mines, Missouri
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All tornado warnings currently
Likely strong tornado on route to the Harrisburg, AR area.
Likely intense tornado near Mcgee, MO.
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Bay, AR.
Very violent tornado ongoing
Tornado Emergency issued for Lake City, AR, Monette, AR, etc.
Likely hit 35.83383208843391, -90.4631669594216 (Delta Farms, NW of Lake City, AR.)
This will be close to Monette, AR.
Looks like most of Monette missed- may have skimmed the northern side of town.
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Indianapolis tornado marked as confirmed
mental lotus
Acedog I wanted to let you know that I check this thread more often than I check the weather broadcast.
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Paducah's in trouble.
Due to how close it is to the radar (and NWS office) it is insanely hard to see.
but it's tracking directly over the office soon if not now
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Acedog I wanted to let you know that I check this thread more often than I check...
Just a followup- I sometimes sleep :c if you're in the USA i always highly recommend following your local NWS office on Twitter, (and if you don't know what your local NWS office would be, go to https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/, and at the top left, type in your zip code)- They're the guys focused on your specific area and will alert you to stuff much faster than I can
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Someone got a good frame- yeah that's a decent CC drop
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Someone got a good frame- *yeah* that's a decent CC drop
NWS Paducah is confirmed safe, out of their shelter now, tornado likely missed to the south.
Likely a very brief tornado in extreme north east Indianapolis, near Carmel. (Likely very weak.)
mental lotus
Just a followup- I sometimes sleep :c if you're in the USA i *always highly reco...
Even better, I follow them on Bluesky
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(Not all have moved to Bluesky yet i think 👉 👈 there's a lot of em)
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NWS Paducah is confirmed safe, out of their shelter now, tornado likely missed t...
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Oh whoops mine is unofficial. https://bsky.app/profile/day.nws-bot.us
Bluesky
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imo the event should slowly start winding down now if I remember right. 🤞
Very hectic day, likely had a couple of strong if not violent tornadoes (primarily over AR, who cannot catch a break lately.)
....southern Arkansas.... stop it.
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<https://www.facebook.com/littlestevieconley/videos/641959715485814>
high qual of this tornado near Jonesboro, AR (at roughly the same time- likely the same horizontal vortex seen wrapping around the front.)
This is very likely one of the strongest tornadoes we've seen in recent history.
..please can this event stop.
NW of Palmersville, TN, heading into KY.
#1's lifting, it's cycling to the east (red square is just to the west of the couplet+ new inflow channel for the top two squares), puts Bell City KY at risk.
Welp- Big time tornado likely just missed Bell City, KY.
Just went PDS.
Likely lifted juuust before it got to Murray, KY, might have some light debris fallout in the SW side of town (branches, etc.)
mental lotus
I don't know that my area is going to be out of tornado watch/warning action until 1 am Eastern 
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red- 1(+?) injured, rescued. Unknown on fatalities/ additional injuries.
But I'd wager that a lot of this relatively higher end damage is debris induced, using debris from the mechanics to the W side of the road.
i will now lie down, i will prolly be back if there's another strong nado or something but ahhhhhhhg i've been staring at radars for 10 hours.
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... Likely had a decently strong tornado just start doing damage as it left the main Louisville KY area.
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OLD Apparently there was another strong one in TN last night
https://x.com/ryanhallyall/status/1907680646996066807?t=sYwhrwsvXK6sByB90NU9Hw&s=19
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jagged niche
@unborn timber didn’t you mention how “this year looks like it’ll be a 2011 repeat”?
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Tldr: Weather nerds I respect very dearly are noticing a *close* resemblance in ...
Well, i parroted it
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Typed “mention” using the noun definition (in reference to someone or something), but even then, I hope nothing like Joplin happens again
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Just for comparison btw- despite how big yesterday's event was, in terms of (specifically) tornado warnings, does not hold a candle to peak 2011.
it was certainly UP THERE, but yeah, fair difference
Remember my crackpot theory of "if a random tornado occurs W of the Rockies, the upcoming event will be notable" sorta idea?
There was a brief EF0 in California the day prior.
I do feel like there's a tie here,
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We are early in the season though?
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We are early in the season though?
Decently, but Feb-Mar-Apr-May are typical dixie ally tornado months
(Like peak tornado season for that area)
It is weird how AR specifically has been getting hammered over and over, tomorrow may go HIGH aswell... over AR.
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NWS Paducah is confirmed safe, out of their shelter now, tornado likely missed t...
NWS Paducah in red. Passed about a mile to their south.
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Strong/ violent tornado in TX, near Grand Saline
- Clarksville, TX
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PDS'ed for Clarksville
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very small watch (3 counties.), 50/30 tornado probs
This is the prelude to today's main event, primarily over AR when these storms track over that way.
Idabel, OK under a PDS tornado warning- likely precautionary. Pure radar hole.
current watches.
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This area was likely hit,
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PDS tornado warning in MS, near New Albany.
structures very likely hit, going into New Albany, MS
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Likely lifted just prior to the majorly populated area, far rural outskirts were likely hit however.
limber mesa
I mean, possibly. Looks like they're not putting dirt on the roof, which would have ended their plans quickly
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likely to have a negative climate effect if it goes into effect #1330709161385922650 message
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I mean, possibly. Looks like they're not putting dirt on the roof, which would h...
After a hearty debate in other storm-focused channels,
the overall consensus is a mix of the following
"well... maybe?"
"Better than nothing"
"Weirdly.. possibly better than a mobile home"
It's mainly the dirt berm that's the lifesaver here, preventing wind from getting under the van to roll/lift it
...buuut if anything landed on the vehicle... it would likely be fatal.
limber mesa
I agree with that consensus
I sure wouldn't wanna be the one to test it as a tornado is coming
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dome shaped homes though- would recommend.
looks ugly- but wind glances off it more often than a traditional house- this one survived a direct strike from an EF4 tornado, estimated at 200 MPH
(2011 Chickasha–Blanchard tornado)
Family survived inside- initially unaware of the tornado until it hit them
For comparison... nearby- rated 190 MPH.
This is actually one of the tornados that's lead to the push of lowering the EF5 threshold from 201+ MPH to 190+ MPH.
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/aop/BAMS-D-24-0066.1/BAMS-D-24-0066.1.xml
Yes it is weird to see people I know (and have occasionally talked to) on Twitter listed w/in this paper.
limber mesa
I cannot tell you how much that storm missed Omaha
it's like the damn thing chose to go around
not a lot of rain, but big wind and hail
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The event was just two cells, but oh boy did they speen.
Like 2 PDS warnings and 1 TOR-E (Tornado Emergency)
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What I would give to be next to this beauty.
(Don't tell my fiancee I said that.)
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What in the absolute fuck
That's a nado
... That's a STRONG tornado what in the absolute fuck was this cell development
20 minute difference. If I was chasing that woulda likely hit and killed me,
That was likely a very strong one. Baffled on what the fuck happened with that bubbler.
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Low Precipitation tornado
Near invisible on radar due to very low rates of rain, only visible because it's picking up debris
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Update- nothing happened really, storm passed over, area's now in a flash flooding warning because of trailing storms
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But someone did get this image
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Approaching Matador, TX.
Tornado confirmed on this one.
PDS issued for this one, strong. Matador was hit not too long ago by a fairly strong one too,
Oklahoma,
The Freedom, OK tornado is likely active.
This is a very strong one!
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The NWS is watching these specific cells enough to where they've slightly upped the day's tornado probs specifically for them.
(Each image is a different forecast issued today.)
limber mesa
Weak rotation- but since it's directly over *Omaha*, keeping an eye on it
my area got missed, just had heavy rain
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A friend called this in to me- reported that the clouds were "very slightly rotating"
I'm gonna mark this as OH and PA's first supercell of the year, 🥳
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limber mesa
that is a large lad
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You know my standard superstition, if a random tornado occurs W of the Rockies tonight/ tomorrow- I'd pay close attention to Monday's event.
jagged niche
Thx for the heads up 🙂
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In my studies, the day before a notable tornado outbreak typically has a brief tornado in one of those states
There's absolutely nothing concrete about that hypothesis, but hey, 25% of meteorology is the same way.
(We are still a relatively new field of science.)
jagged niche
“25% of meteorology is the same way” hence why I’m not questioning your judgement
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The day before a very notable outbreak (I believe last year) Alaska had their first tornado in decades, which really sparked my interest in exploring this pattern
jagged niche
You mentioned this to any meteorology groups, or is this a personal thing?
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You mentioned this to any meteorology groups, or is this a personal thing?
It's starting to gain a little steam in some other groups I'm in
Still starchly in the "internal data collection and peer review" sorta stage before we even dare to ask the NWS about it- because 60-80% of us are hobbyists, most without degrees (me included.) also not a good time to try and get in contact with them.
It is very funny how this field is very OSINT coded, there's a good chunk of data that is sourced from the public, and the data is open to the public in return. (This is probably why i've fallen perfectly inline w/ this server, primarily due to my geolocation background for tracking tornado damage.)
A rare example of a government operated OSINT-type operation working extremely well
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Hype
limber mesa
I'm a smidgen outside the confirmation zone so I'll see what happens
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The storm system should probably be linear by the time it gets to Minneapolis, which in theory would kneecap hail+ strong tornado odds (but will increase weaker spinup odds),
may transition into more of a damaging straight-line wind event.
If the storms remain discrete, it would be a major issue for the entirety of central/ SE MN. (along w/ IA and a bit of WI.)
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Current NWS forecast
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Strong if not extremely violent tornado in Nebraska, https://x.com/NWStornado/status/1916647271954817071
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Train derailed on this one.
Chasers had to flee from this one
https://fxtwitter.com/Collins_Wx/status/1916646088955592806
Outlining each hook echo, second storm to the east is gonna try
Chasers calling that western one "easily a mile wide"
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Chasers calling that western one "easily a mile wide"
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Strong if not extremely violent tornado in Nebraska, https://x.com/NWStornado/st...
Likely died off now. Tornado was active for over an hour
The other storm however has also produced a tornado that is ongoing (population of about 0 people in its current path.)
The third storm's starting to hook out,
This one might try to produce a few more
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Wow
jagged niche
Not too well versed in reading radar but I spot a danger noodle
Fr tho, that’s… concerning
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Gonna try and get some sleep, keeping an eye on the Midwest for like 4-9 PM
jagged niche
Sleep well
unborn timber
Mainly got my eyes on around 6 PM for Minneapolis,
There's still notable ways that tomorrow could fail to do much, but if the conditions align, could be a notable day for a few states.
limber mesa
I'm in the "could miss us" zone so I'll have eyes on it
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got forwarded this and it woke me up,
decided to remake the clip w/ the source stream.
here you go.
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxMqlbZLEp-JMvN4MmJNfoqsatPQXK8Blh?si=Mb27M2ARVyuvaFZh
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You know my standard superstition, if a random tornado occurs W of the Rockies t...
Update on this- we did not have a tornado W of the Rockies, but we did have pure chaos in Nebraska yesterday, so "
" on where that puts me with my superstition.
Will be a good data point though (maybe. Hopefully.)
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Update on this- *we did not* have a tornado W of the Rockies, but we did have pu...
So expect shenanigans east of the Rockies?
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bad Oklahoma, bad.
(Upped from 5% to 10%# [# indicates atleast a 10% chance of a strong tornado])
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So expect shenanigans east of the Rockies?
, we're officially in the "we will see where the chips lie" time of forecasting (We typically call it "nowcasting", we are real creative.) , where relying on models is.. not helpful, as the time it takes to create those runs- we'll have live data to use anyways.
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where I am, there's an 85%-60% chance of a miss, but it's a narrow one
maybe I'll spot it as it flies by
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Forecast discussion- tried to highlight segments that aren't too jargany and state what they're seeing in as plain of text as possible, but worth a read if you're in the area,
tl;dr- this is a very tough event to forecast, NWS is still not fully confident in it, but also have enough confidence to warrant concern. Weird spot to be in.
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tl;dr- Conditions do seem to be lining up, but if storms just never fire, there's no risk. We're waiting on that (and wont get that answer for hours)
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*bad Oklahoma, bad.*
(Upped from 5% to 10%# [# indicates atleast a 10% chance o...
…..are we gonna ignore that 15%? 
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…..are we gonna ignore that 15%? <:possumscream:1138147995553124382>
(tbf that's been consistently forecasted since like Saturday, OK got a literal last minute upgrade)
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tl;dr- Conditions *do seem to be lining up*, but if storms just *never fire*, th...
To put this in an analogy (like we weather nerds love to do)
The bullet's on the table, we're unsure where the gun is.
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(tbf that's been consistently forecasted since like Saturday, OK got a literal l...
Ok nvm
That makes more sense now
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.... It might completely miss Minneapolis
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The bullet was on the table, and then we tried to load it into a nerf gun, amazing last second downtrend for the northern sector.
The storms split and missed Minneapolis, segment to the south did have a few gustnadoes, but overall, system has gone more linear
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The storm system *should probably* be linear by the time it gets to Minneapolis,...
refer back to here
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discussion I had in a different server i'm cross posting here to save time.
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The # of very upset storm chasers in MN/ IA is... notable. I would avoid the roads for a moment if you're up there (let them clear out)
Partially joking, partially not, a lot of heated sleep deprived tension among certain "teams"
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Likely a quick spin up tornado occurred SE of Eau Claire.
Likely a strong tornado from that same storm segment, E of Augusta, WI.
CC is fading somewhat- might have been a real quick tree muncher.
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Tornado hit Springfield, MO
Edit-
Seems like a decent (but weak) tornado, downed powerlines and trees, roofing damage reported.
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(Moved a discussion as it is part of an internal investigation w/in the weather community.)
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Parts of costal Chile being evacuated after a M7. 5 quake at sea, possible tsunami of 1-3 meters.
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Kentucky doesn't get tornadoes like we do in the plains, but frequent enough EF-1s that having no one in charge of the entire state of weather there is deeply concerning
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Kentucky doesn't get tornadoes like we do in the plains, but frequent enough EF-...
Western KY certainly does, I'd note
Several of the strongest tornados in recent history are in that rough area (Central/Northern MS into Western TN into Western KY)
The CM for the Paducah, KY office retired in February, I believe the hiring freeze is what's prevented a new one from getting in.
... Also as a side note- tornado in Poland yesterday, we had a new guy show up in a storm chasing group asking if he caught something, we're of the opinion he did- he's sending it to the equivalent of the NWS there.
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I knew it was someone outside the US when I saw "landspout"
probably a literal translation of a local word
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Landspouts are unfortunately an American creation to describe tornadoes that dont occur under storms (or to partially explain ones that don't form in a typical way)
But given the info that was given, leaning towards this being a bog standard tornado (Probably an extremely weak tornado, but a nado. Also as a note- landspouts are not necessarily wispy nothingburgers- max recorded that I know of was a High end EF1, which is like.. decent.)
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Decently strong quake in TX,
limber mesa
I'll admit, I didn't know that was a thing that could happen
jagged niche
Ok wtf that’s too strong for fracking
limber mesa
5.7 is significant yeah
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