#Prigozhin plane shot down

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glacial birch
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I would be very careful with trying to draw conclusions from such low-resolution footage. Modern video compression (and image compression to some extent) can result in weird artifacts and glitches that can easily be larger than the size of the features you're interested in.

halcyon jetty
flint tundra
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perhaps a good way is to try and geolocate onto a local map the presumed landing position locations of seperated pieces. these were: main fuselage, main wing, main tail fin, and finally the detached thinner blue flaps / aeleron / control surfaces. which were then also seen seperated away from the main tail fin assembly

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there is not evidence of an engine being seperated from the main fuselage because... there is no photo of it landed on to it's own seperate location. so both engines were presumed to have remained attached, then caught fire and burned up after landing in the main wreckage

flint tundra
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shrug gdrive folder has shrug * some * images. (and of variable quality)

stone crypt
flint tundra
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but what is often missing is the proper EXIF metadata, from the source files. Or they are screen grabs (so no EXIF either for those ones)

halcyon jetty
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Crash site is cleared. Totally. https://t.me/ostorozhno_novosti/19195

harsh jackal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXaEYZbUQhU
Anders also argueing that prigozhins murder is different to past political assassinations in the message it sends.

Prigozhin's plane crash and the arrest of Igor Girkin paint a picture of a new reality in Russian politics, where ideology is forbidden, and only fear remains. It is a next step on the ladder of repression.

This video is a bit more rough than usual. As you can tell from the video, I was a but under the weather. So no animations or bullet lists ...

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flint tundra
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is very good video, i like this guy's angle. with the more general and longer-term outlook

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and he had another great video about the f16s

ionic wedge
flint tundra
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probably the best we are going to ever get

harsh jackal
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My latest piece for @ForeignPolicy on why I believe Prigozhin was killed for his stubborn refusal to give up his Africa business and not as revenge for failed mutiny
And what that means to the stability of Putin’s regime

https://t.co/PWU4k4aeYo

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The Wagner chief broke the deal struck with Putin for his survival.

flint tundra
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dont see any reason why it can't be both

halcyon jetty
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These both are theories. Not facts and cannot be fact checked. How reasonable they sound. They are still theories. As also the cause of the plain crash is still a theory based on presumptions and fussy pictures in my honest opinion. Only a wrack reconstruction and scrutinizing research of the black boxes gives the real answers on the crash. And only leaked real inside info will give the real reason.

harsh jackal
queen prairie
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Re: analysis of the low quality video...it wont give out anything near the sort of info needed to ascertain cause. That will of course only been found by close examination that can classify failure points due fatigue/overload/explosion etc.

cold compass
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#russia-ukraine-eastern-europe message crosspost
“The people aboard Yevgeny Prigozhin's aircraft were reportedly dismembered – and in one case decapitated – by an explosion on board before it crashed. This suggests that they were already dead before they hit the ground and disproves Vladimir Putin's claims about the crash”

Watch out, the first tweet contains a very graphic, but spoilered, picture of the crash aftermath:
||https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1730652452272177607||

Originally posted by @deft minnow

sudden aspen
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I thought it was interesting when even the CIA later said it wasn't anti-aircraft. It's late here but i'll find the name of his engineer tomorrow. I believe he's still missing.

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Must be Sergey Kitrish, but i thought the news at the time said he was missing 🤷‍♂️

deft minnow
prime arch
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What has happened to Prigozhin's assets? I haven't heard much since early September.

compact obsidian
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Maybe Eliot got them all