#Russian Military Coup [DO NOT POST MEMES - DO POST SOURCES]

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red geyser
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TASS called the gunmen under the building of the Russian Defense Ministry the fighters of "PMC Wagner.
https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7048

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I think we have confirmation

meager pawn
gloomy grove
red geyser
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They literally just waltzed in and took it

quasi night
meager pawn
gray surge
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#1121882157414100993 message

honest hemlock
gloomy grove
gray surge
honest hemlock
meager pawn
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Congratulations to Russia for not only becoming the second strongest army in Ukraine but also the second strongest army in Rostov-on-Don

eternal lark
quasi night
cosmic dove
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Of all places this thing can actually happen, Russia is the least surprising

tepid eagle
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He says white armbands are wagner, red MoD

honest hemlock
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Yep, shared a bit ago

charred latch
faint harness
charred latch
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Granted I'm surprised they're giving out armbands to the military in Russia

warped quiver
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I think think the armbands are various police/security forces

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not straight up MoD or military

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wagner may have armbands, sure

charred latch
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That's fair. I'm used to seeing the red/white on Russian troops and green/yellow on Ukes

warped quiver
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yeah I think tape bands are probably wagner

honest hemlock
burnt steppe
faint harness
shy pine
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Guess what guys? Rostov has its own nuclear plant, so soon we can start that whole rigamarole over again.

fresh tree
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wow i fell asleep early, what is happening

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russia just invaded russia again?

fallow coyote
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wagner mutiny smh

fresh tree
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idk how to feel about this

honest hemlock
gloomy grove
fresh tree
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whats the end goal here?

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kremlin?

honest hemlock
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Yep, that's my main grippe with Osinttechnical, he never posts his sources

faint harness
fresh tree
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or take parts of the country

quasi night
warped quiver
charred latch
ripe citrus
honest hemlock
warped quiver
shy pine
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Lazy fake at that

warped quiver
gloomy grove
fresh tree
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cant believe he'd be foolish enough to storm moscow

fresh tree
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either way

gloomy grove
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it's not a coup, it's a special marching operation

fresh tree
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nevermind ill scroll up

red geyser
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⚡️⚡️В Due to incoming information in Moscow anti-terrorist measures aimed at strengthening security measures - Sobyanin

"Additional control is introduced on the roads. It is possible to limit the holding of mass events. Please take the measures with understanding", - said the mayor of the capital.
https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7051

gloomy grove
honest hemlock
fresh tree
honest hemlock
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Begin here @fresh tree

warped quiver
honest hemlock
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Mind pinning it, Sarah?

fallow coyote
tender vigil
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Both can be true - there could have been a strike and video could be doctored at the same time.

fallow coyote
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also this @fresh tree

gloomy grove
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thanks, i got my hands full lol

fresh tree
shy pine
fresh tree
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interesting

shy pine
fresh tree
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so he's after shoigo regardless

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of such an attack

honest hemlock
broken oyster
fresh tree
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no surprise really

fresh tree
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its so hard to know wtf is real anymore

warped quiver
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Meduza:

The video footage posted by Prigozhin earlier on June 23 that reportedly shows the aftermath of a Russian rocket strike on a Wagner rear camp is almost certainly staged. Here’s why:

Whoever is filming doesn’t run away from the explosion, as you would expect if they feared more artillery or rocket strikes, but moves toward it.
The people speaking off camera, before they could have gotten any real details about the incident, come to the conclusion that the Ukrainian military “can’t get at us” and that only their own “allies” could have carried out the strike.
There’s no visible crater in any of the posted footage, or any dirt that a normal explosion would gave scattered. The surrounding vegetation and trees appear essentially unharmed, which rules out a rocket that exploded in the air. Most likely, the explosion was caused by a hand grenade going off under a tent or in one of the camp’s numerous structures.
One part of the footage shows two fires burning in a dugout, but the fresh cover of leaves in the dugout is undamaged, and there are no visible artillery casings around.
Prigozhin reported that the strike left a large number of victims, but the footage doesn’t show any of them. One clip shows part of a human body, but the color of the dried blood on it suggests that the person died much earlier than when the alleged strike took place.

Uhhh.... I don't know if this is 100% guys, one way or the other

fresh tree
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makes my brain hurt

broken oyster
honest hemlock
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All I say is that if you ask me to choose to believe between Prigozhin or Meduza, I'm very biased towards the latter

red geyser
finite elm
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just got back to my computer with discord on it

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and boy oh boy

warped quiver
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can someone link me to the full video that prig acct posted of the strike? (I don't have telegram)

finite elm
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things are happening, huh

red geyser
gloomy grove
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aric, my dude

honest hemlock
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Hi Aric, nice evening right?

finite elm
gloomy grove
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in short I don't think Eliot's gonna get his money back

red geyser
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https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45238
‼️ Rosgvardia riot police refused to open fire on Wagner's protesters at the checkpoints at the entrance to the city...

The tanks and infantry of the Prigozhin drove right up to the headquarters of the Russian Southern District Command in Rostov.

desert escarp
red geyser
shy pine
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Spreading out across the Don

gloomy grove
warped quiver
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augh can someone download and post this video?
https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3797

finite elm
gloomy grove
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oh the "airstrike"

red geyser
# finite elm

genuinely less convincing than the bald guy next to the burning car at the start of the war

finite elm
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yeah fake as hell

red geyser
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convenient how the only thing burning was in the trench

faint harness
tender vigil
red geyser
honest hemlock
gloomy grove
shy pine
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They look kind of slovenly in those pants

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I wonder if the convicts are reliable enough for this work?

ripe citrus
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Remember news about Peskov’s son serving in Wagner? That’s so awkward now

honest hemlock
honest hemlock
red geyser
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‼️ Part of the units of the All-Russian Armed Forces on the territory of Ukraine have come under the command of Prigozhin - Russian channels...

Fighting is expected on the Taganrog highway, where Akhmat fighters occupy positions.
https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45241

charred latch
red geyser
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take w/ grain of salt

warped quiver
# finite elm

alright let us start by assuming this video is not fake dispite Meduza debunking it from various angles

  1. no large scale black burn marks from a blast, but lots of downed vegetation from a pressure wave or shrapnel
  2. debris from destroyed camp DOES have some black burn marks and impact spots - it looks like frag munitions?
gloomy grove
ripe citrus
charred latch
warped quiver
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it looks like frag, just a lot of frag

faint harness
gloomy grove
fresh belfry
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while the video does look very fake, im nto sure meduza's debunking is worth anything

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"** and there are no visible artillery casings around.**"

red geyser
shy pine
fresh belfry
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artillery casings get fired along with the shell right? like bad cgi bullets in segal movies

warped quiver
shy pine
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The original Russian might have meant splinters, rather than casings

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But still iffy

empty drum
faint harness
charred latch
warped quiver
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I think there MIGHT be evidence of a cluster munition used here

honest hemlock
main hill
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wonder if you'd be able to find that tank anywhere else in the past (name could have been recent)

gloomy grove
gloomy grove
honest hemlock
gloomy grove
versed moth
honest hemlock
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There are also blocks near Tula, I don't think those were there

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And that's rather close to Moscow 👀

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(No, Wagner is not there already, it's 12h of drive on a regular car between Rostov and Moscow)

fresh belfry
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thats better, but the idea of shell fragments is that they fly rather fast away from the explosion

gloomy grove
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how about this

honest hemlock
red geyser
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duct tape = wagner

cosmic dove
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What's the actual datapoint for verifying that?

eternal lark
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Speculation at this point, even if it would be logical

lunar hamlet
gloomy grove
warped quiver
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Meduza says "Whoever is filming doesn’t run away from the explosion, as you would expect if they feared more artillery or rocket strikes, but moves toward it." but there are no explosions in the video, it is all aftermath?
"The people speaking off camera, before they could have gotten any real details about the incident, come to the conclusion that the Ukrainian military “can’t get at us” and that only their own “allies” could have carried out the strike." -- they are speaking about the aftermath, a while after it happened?
"There’s no visible crater in any of the posted footage, or any dirt that a normal explosion would gave scattered. The surrounding vegetation and trees appear essentially unharmed, which rules out a rocket that exploded in the air. Most likely, the explosion was caused by a hand grenade going off under a tent or in one of the camp’s numerous structures." ... a frag cluster munition? There are some impact sites that are bigger than hand-grenades. The large volume of displaced leaves means there was a shockwave.

Who at Meduza was making these assertions?

versed moth
warped quiver
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there were some shell fragments...

faint harness
warped quiver
red geyser
cosmic dove
warped quiver
red geyser
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❗️Губернатор Lipetsk Region Artamonov:

"We are holding a meeting with the law enforcement agencies in the Lipetsk Oblast department of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation. All units are working as usual. Among other things, we are solving the problem of informing people about the closure of roads in the southern direction. Once again I ask the residents of the Lipetsk region to refrain from travelling".

honest hemlock
cosmic dove
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The formation of the soldiers reminds me about the "object securing" they did in Oslo on July 22

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Just way more aggressive, obviously

versed moth
# warped quiver It could be a log I guess?

I am not ready to die on this hill and this does not support the video or the debunk, but I don't think we could with any certainty debunk whatever the f these ?objects? are. Either way, they could be arranged on purpose, so no hard evidence either way. However I would assume that a weighty piece of metal with a velocity of explosion would have planted itself deeper. Dunno, not a pro

red geyser
warped quiver
red geyser
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they're not fighting for it

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‼️ Some of the Wagnerians from Rostov are traveling to Voronezh, where they are preparing to meet the Akhmatchay...

Cheering for both sides
https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45244

eternal lark
warped quiver
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It looks to me like frag munitions, grenades, rockets, artillery, maybe even airborne cannon fire?
All frag, anti-personnel, no thermobaric or high explosive

red geyser
gloomy grove
brisk wave
red geyser
signal thicket
prime gate
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Curious about the reports russian units are switching over to Wagner has there been any proof of this?

cosmic dove
red geyser
red geyser
cosmic dove
gloomy grove
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or fled

versed moth
# warped quiver Are you assuming it was a missile? A large one, like a cruise missile?

At the moment I try not to assume anything about this, at is it not clear what we are supposed to be looking for, at least based on the Wagner sources. If we listen to them - we can be looking for anything, and if we are looking for anything - we will find an evidence of something. Of something that was not neccesserily was there.

However I find it unlikely that an artillery piece fired a single round and decided that it was enough.

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Too tired to keep observing. Good day to everyone!

prime gate
warped quiver
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there are multiple horizontal craters

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which are probably not what you're looking for?

gloomy grove
warped quiver
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there's horizontal ejecta, not vertical

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there's a lot of displaced leaves, so shockwave of some airburst (probably frag) too

shy pine
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Why isn't Prigozhin bragging about Rostov yet?

heady jungle
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Is ejecta a word?

warped quiver
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yes.

versed moth
eternal lark
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I remember watching the Turkish coup unfold, and it was a lot more convincing than this tbh, and people still think that was fake. Until i see actual shooting i wont believe anything

cosmic dove
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Coup paralysis is a thing
(I mean, I just invented the term, but it just is)

gloomy grove
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i don't see any blood in the Rostov pictures and I do see a bunch of very close, very unworried civilians, so I figure anything that doesn't involve combat is possible

heady jungle
finite elm
gloomy grove
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switching, surrendering, fleeing

gloomy grove
# finite elm

there's one of those unworried civilians right now loldog

shy pine
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This is how Kyiv was supposed to go

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Or at least Kharkiv

red geyser
ripe citrus
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Now it’s supposed to be Moscow

red geyser
cosmic dove
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During a famous Norwegian bank-robbery (as depicted in the movie Nokas) it was striking how life went as usual while there was a heavy gunfight in the middle of a town.

red geyser
manic valve
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question- back when the ukranian war broke out there were 3-4 hobbyists in the bellingcat channel who seemed to specialized in tracking US, Russian, and NATO aircraft- stuff like antinuclear warfare craft for signs of a conflict heating up

red geyser
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In this photo you can clearly see how on one side of Budyonnovsky stands the equipment of PMC Wagner, and on the other side of the Defense Ministry https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7064

manic valve
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Anyone from that crew following this thread and been watching things?

warped quiver
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here's some impacts on a tree, this looks like the side that got hit - API rounds

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this is the one of the other sides

quasi night
# red geyser little to no resistance, genuinely shocking

There’s a pretty huge media blackout over there though - huge amounts of censorship, the Russian people haven’t even been able to officially call it a war, and some of the clips showed people in the streets filming saying “who / what is this?” So it all may just be total confusion

weak sonnet
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Lotta peeps are very good at that over there

empty drum
weak sonnet
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So@e of them are also here

steel laurel
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Stuff like this is when Bellingcat is at its best.

weak sonnet
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Just not reading as much

steel laurel
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I am in awe of all of you.

cosmic dove
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Is russian censoring possible to survey? Eg BGP etc?

red geyser
gloomy grove
shy pine
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Can't ever trust Visegrad

prime gate
cosmic dove
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If there are people who like doing spreadsheets, now is the time

finite elm
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is it just me or did everything just totally pause like 30min ago

finite elm
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lol i mean like no more movements, people just standing still, no new videos

gloomy grove
red geyser
warped quiver
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daylight puts a damper on things

red geyser
cosmic dove
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There's this effect when a lot of material is released, that new material does not propagate as easily.

weak sonnet
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Assumed there was something that would give you an overview of all streets at once but hadnt looked yet

prime gate
gloomy grove
finite elm
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i mean nothing new in rostov. they were moving towards the MO building then... silence

weak sonnet
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Can you select to show traffic in general? Man i really haven’t been looking properly the last decade

weak sonnet
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Then again i guess i’ve never needed it before

cosmic dove
weak sonnet
finite elm
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user submitted to local TG channels

weak sonnet
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But just good old presumptions

ripe citrus
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Prigozhin claiming there are 25k of them, where are all the rest?

meager pawn
red geyser
gloomy grove
meager pawn
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removing the "allegedly" part from the title any time soon?

cosmic dove
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Any activity on SDR?

red geyser
low blade
finite elm
prime gate
# low blade

the waffliest of waffle since waffles were created

eternal lark
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I just want to point out that we still haven’t seen a single Wagner insignia or something that can confidently identify Wagner as far as I am aware

red geyser
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except for TASS confirming that it's Wagner and everyone on the ground saying it's Wagner

low blade
prime gate
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yes but as someone with some v basic military training so positions are not defensive in the slightest

gloomy grove
red geyser
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https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45250 More footage from Voronezh

faint harness
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https://t.me/s/etorostov
Preview channel INCOMING VIDEOS ON TOP The situation at the headquarters of the Southern Federal District: snipers aim at the building, passers-by film what is happening on video

cosmic dove
red geyser
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New Prigozhin audio just dropped

ripe citrus
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tepid eagle
red geyser
finite elm
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ah nice was looking around there

prime gate
tepid eagle
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or honestly probably more directly south

shy pine
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I will summarize

gloomy grove
shy pine
tepid eagle
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lol is he in an office?

shy pine
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Dmitri is quick these days

brisk wave
desert escarp
shy pine
brisk wave
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local tg channels talk about red tape being for LNR/DNR, red lines - military police, white tape - mod military

shy pine
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Why such short messages? Are they worried about being triangulated and Dudaev'd?

gloomy grove
shy pine
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What about duct tape?

red geyser
cosmic tusk
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I wonder what ol' kadyrov is up to tonight...

red geyser
ripe citrus
shy pine
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Funny how we all thought it would be Kadyrov doing shit like this. I think he is too fat and stoned to care much these days.

brisk wave
steel laurel
cosmic dove
solemn light
gloomy grove
cosmic tusk
cosmic dove
steel laurel
red geyser
solemn light
eternal lark
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It’s just a photo description from TASS photo

cosmic dove
red geyser
cosmic dove
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A good datapoint would be identifying a vehicle or tags

red geyser
faint harness
eternal lark
cosmic dove
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Eg for soldiers that were just fighting in a ditch they don't wear much insignia.
And securing objects do involve surrounding it and even pointing guns at it. I find it astonishing if Wagner surrounds buildings before any local military manages to do any securing.

gloomy grove
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Important to emphasize that it isn't fully clear what we are seeing here. There are some MoD vehicles there, but others aren't clear. There are also some irregular dressed fighters/soldiers. These could be Wagner, or they could be from an MoD BARS unit or other formation.

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we cannot conclusively say who these guys are yet

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white armband/duct tape guys are all together but who are they?

prime gate
cosmic dove
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Does Wagner have any sort of regulation?

ripe citrus
red geyser
gloomy grove
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we have some tg posts saying what armbands mean but it's just chatter

red geyser
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https://t.me/news161ru/33676 In front of Ayutinskoye (a farmstead before Shakhty), there are kilometer-long jams in both directions and the military are arriving, eyewitnesses report.

eternal lark
red geyser
ripe citrus
eternal lark
red geyser
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The entrances and exits to Rostov are blocked and there are huge traffic jams on the highways. People have been standing for seven hours.

At the same time there are many buses and cars with children. No one is helping. People do not understand how much it all is and how they should behave. https://t.me/etorostov/26909

prime gate
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it’s going to be really hard to authenticate this as wagner since a lot of their equipment is russian army supplied

red geyser
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https://t.me/supernova_plus/21434 This video is so low quality it almost looks AI generated

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supposedly a Russian air strike on a Wagner convoy headed to Voronezh

finite elm
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wait so are these guys by the MoD building even fucking wagner

warped quiver
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there is some video going around of wagner soldiers with MANPADS in rostok

red geyser
warped quiver
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they might say no even if they are

cosmic dove
brisk wave
finite elm
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it's so weird because they were pointing their guns and tank turrets at the building

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like why do you do that if you're rosgvardia

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like they were not pointing, then specifically made a point to do it

red geyser
shy pine
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Because they read on Twitter that Wagner was there lol

pale venture
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All mass events that were supposed to take place in Rostov this weekend have been canceled - Vasily Golubev

Golubev is the governor of Rostov Oblast
https://t.me/etorostov/26908

hoary wadi
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that "aaaaaah nyet" was less than convincing but who knows

warped quiver
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wagner adjacent forces? xD

prime gate
solemn light
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Have they figured out what gang symbols to wear to differentiate between themselves yet, because a Z isnt going to cut it anymore

steel laurel
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The fog of war is especially thick tonight Bellingcat is doing all it can to see through it.

shy pine
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They should wear chef's hats

cosmic dove
shy pine
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And musical instruments

red geyser
finite elm
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tepid eagle
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I see lol one sec

red geyser
tepid eagle
finite elm
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fucking hate juggling the pozdnyakov groups

drifting crown
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Moin, who can keep me updated in one sentence pls

cosmic dove
# tepid eagle

If this is geolocated to be in direction of Ukraine then it's likely correct

tepid eagle
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it's been 3.0 for a while now I think?

orchid quail
steel laurel
finite elm
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i was in 2.0 before i think

solemn light
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duct tape symbol was just one group so far

pine girder
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Just a thought but this video showing a convoy of tanks and armored vehicles was taken on the eastern side of Rostov - AKA the opposite direction from which the Wagner "convoy" was coming from. I'm trying to match vehicles to the ones outside the MoD building now. #1121882157414100993 message

drifting crown
cosmic dove
shy pine
drifting crown
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JFcupofcoffee. Thank you

orchid quail
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look for the white armbands in the videos....not all of them have them but more are trickling out.

prime gate
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I can only imagine that trying to track the movement of known wagner group sections is the only way we can definitively know that this is wagner - anyone can wear duct tape

shy pine
cosmic dove
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I'm very wary of making assumptions about white armbands when that's like the tenth time in this war. And it's also duct-tape so any claims of white tape doesn't make sense.

red geyser
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CONFIRMED PMC WAGNER IN ROSTOV

finite elm
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just saw

shy pine
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Too big, someone please post

meager pawn
prime gate
meager pawn
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link

shy pine
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Duct tape could easily be one local commander trying to keep track of his own guys

red geyser
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Prigozhin's actually right there, wild

honest hemlock
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FFS Prigozhin, I was finally falling asleep and you had to show up

red geyser
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For all the sledgehammer killings, he does lead from the front sometimes

cosmic dove
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Duct-tape and prigoshin in same image is gooood datapoint

prime gate
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yh - which building is this?

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I don’t recognise (maybe i’m blind) from previous data points

faint harness
meager pawn
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going back to the roadblocks being placed on the roads south of rostov, did we see any reports of wagner entering from the south or did they all come from the north on the M4?

shy pine
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So in this video Prigozhin seems to be 'negotiating' with MoD officers

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He scolds them for shooting at a civilian bus

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Nervous smirking from navy shirt guy

red geyser
prime gate
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It’s times like this when i wish i spoke russian

shy pine
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He says he will shoot down all helicopters, not just the three so far

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He will fortify Rostov and move to Moscow

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Moustache guy mumbles too much for me

half sail
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Did they storm the MoD building in Rostov or not?

shy pine
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Navy shirt guy is worried that this will cause a holiday in Kyiv

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Prigozhin says that it was abandoning Lyman that caused a holiday

tepid eagle
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50.415216, 40.149773

red geyser
faint harness
shy pine
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Filming negotiations with fence sitters. Wild.

quasi night
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All while Putin “sleeps”

red geyser
faint harness
cosmic dove
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I'm happy to be wrong about being skeptical about duct tape. I guess it's close to warmappers adding a yellow area around Rostov.

tepid eagle
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oh wait I may have messed up that geolocation

honest hemlock
warped quiver
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is there a new prig sound bite from inside some hq?

meager pawn
manic valve
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Do we need a translation bot? I have an openAI driven one semi working

warped quiver
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there is some new prigoz soundbite, I don't have telegram

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can anyone snag it?

quasi night
warped quiver
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he's a rando, doesn't cite

shy pine
honest hemlock
shy pine
quasi night
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This is what I thought

warped quiver
shy pine
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Supersonic just did

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I've been paraphrasing, scroll up

meager pawn
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why is there such a massive relevence placed on the op? whether its him or british intelligence posting, the video material is the same. a tank crew ripping up the streets

empty drum
shy pine
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Prigozhin is putting on a show with his hostages

warped quiver
faint harness
orchid quail
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igor's been accused of klout chasing and reposting without credit....and probably worst of all raising money for "donations" but not actually turning over money....i have him blocked but he keeps popping up.

honest hemlock
meager pawn
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in which case i wouldve just posted the material without the source

prime gate
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i think we’re going to have to essentially ignore what he says and look for corroborating evidence in pics and videos

cosmic dove
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Is the Prigoshin video geolocated to Rostov yet?

meager pawn
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you get all the info without giving credit to disreputable people

drifting crown
red geyser
hoary wadi
red geyser
honest hemlock
quasi night
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It’s like fanfiction

meager pawn
cosmic dove
meager pawn
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this is silly and nerfing yourselves

red geyser
shy pine
#

So duct tape is 100% Wagner

brisk wave
red geyser
meager pawn
#

ive been advised multiple times to not do this

warped quiver
shy pine
#

so 99.99%

red geyser
faint harness
red geyser
#

so there are other signs than that

drifting crown
cosmic dove
finite elm
#

at this building i think 47.22323400000672, 39.704724439697934

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int he court yard

prime gate
meager pawn
#

another prigozhin video just dropped

red geyser
red geyser
warped quiver
#

That courtyard?

warped quiver
#

Do we see any rooftops anywhere in there...

meager pawn
#

cant help but be impressed by their op tonight

prime gate
#

what’s he saying?

faint harness
red geyser
#

Prigozhin himself is wearing duct tape

meager pawn
faint harness
meager pawn
#

say again?

shy pine
honest hemlock
# meager pawn so if you just saw that video, you would be unable to link it to rostov with all...

Yes, it's missing context and it stops other people from coming to refer at if. It's not the same if random person posts it than if it comes from a trustworthy source.

Think of it as having a huge bold claim. Would it be believable to link to a highly reputed source or to not link it to anyone and just ask people to trust you.

And besides, it's a rule of the server and it's there for a reason and you have been warned multiple times. Don't push it further please

warped quiver
#

that's the curve here... does it fit?

hoary wadi
#

I forget, what's the significance of "Load 200" from his shoulder patch ("Load 200, we're together")

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(alt. cargo 200?)

finite elm
#

KIA

cosmic dove
#

I'm not so sure about lionizing prigozhin as he belongs in jail, and I'm sure he doesn't agree

shy pine
red geyser
eternal lark
#

Worth noting that TASS is still littered with Prigozhin being charged for mutiny and inciting armed rebellion, hard to see Kremlin (or MoD leadership) sitting down with him for a chat?

warped quiver
#

any higher quality res of the video? reflections in 2nd floor windows might be useful

meager pawn
# honest hemlock Yes, it's missing context and it stops other people from coming to refer at if. ...

i cant help but be confused as to why you would want a plain video taken by some random russian in rostov to be tarnished and made subjective by seeing who on twitter out of hundreds/thousands to first see the video happened to repost it. I understand sources are necessary when information in the video is not sufficient for one to identify context but with videos like this, you are asking for source for the sake of asking for a source, and then complaining when said source is disreputable even if the video has bugger all to do with source.

cosmic dove
ripe citrus
#

He clearly demanded Shoigu and Gerasimov to show up, we’ll see what these guys will do

shy pine
honest hemlock
meager pawn
#

its like being told off for doing what you asked me to. shit, complain to yourself about a problem not me. all i want to do is pass on material and let you figure it out, but im not being stupid with my information. I can decipher what is and isnt fodder.

cosmic dove
shy pine
#

If nothing else, having a timestamp is nice

orchid quail
#

Aric pointed out they have duct tape on, I thought it was white armbands 🤷‍♂️ . Looks like more internet services are going down in Russia too.

meager pawn
meager pawn
warped quiver
orchid quail
drifting crown
quasi night
finite elm
#

wait wagner has the aerodrom?

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is he just making sh it up

meager pawn
#

but what use will igor being the poster serve?

warped quiver
meager pawn
#

should journalism pick it up, itll be described as footage taken from rostov, not posted by igor from nowhere

finite elm
#

wagner has used planes in libya haha

meager pawn
#

su24/su25

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would you like a link for that?

warped quiver
#

we discussed wagner armor and aircraft earlier

ripe citrus
warped quiver
#

it is clear they have some armor

shy pine
#

Didn't Wagner have aviation in Ukraine too?

warped quiver
#

if they actually scramble some jets that would be insane

cosmic dove
shy pine
quasi night
pale venture
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"We are in HQ, 7 30 in the morning. We have under control military objects of Rostov, including the airport. Everything is under contol. All we have done is ensure that aviation did not strike us, but struck Ukrainians"
The rest is about the conditions and casualties on the front
https://t.me/u_now/102226

red geyser
#

https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7082 More reports of a raid on Wagner HQ

finite elm
#

all the previous raids were fake, finally a real one?

shy pine
urban sun
meager pawn
red geyser
red geyser
patent rover
#

Hey folks,
Just a reminder to provide sources for whatever you are posting and to interact with each other in a respectful manner please.
I realise it is a fluid situation but head outside and take a breather or get a drink of water if you need to.

tepid eagle
faint harness
meager pawn
#

I will pass information here. If the source is biased or unreliable I will vx it and make any footage entirely objective and let you fine and intelligent people figure it out yourselves.

warped quiver
shy pine
quasi night
red geyser
cosmic dove
finite elm
#

ignore all Sushko lol

meager pawn
#

every time i vx stuff i get a lecture from @honest hemlock

cosmic dove
#

Just move on, super. Nobody is mad.

meager pawn
#

cheers

honest hemlock
#

Dude, just move on

patent rover
red geyser
#

anyway I'm sleeping

drifting crown
#

Sleep well

faint harness
meager pawn
#

did we ever get a translation on this?

ripe citrus
#

Swan Lake is needed to fall asleep

manic valve
#

just heard from a ground source in russia that they're terrified this could be a putin cover operation to flush out russian resistance

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no facts or sources just fear

warped quiver
#

just words from his mouth in that video

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not that they took the aerodrome

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We have under control military objects of Rostov, including the airport.
not sure if under control means they 'took' anything

shy pine
manic valve
#

Yeah, repeat disinfo operations tend to do that

pale venture
#

How many troops does the Southern District actually command?

eternal lark
#

So far we dont really know what it quacks like and walks like…..

warped quiver
quasi night
#

@AndrKolesnikov Russian security forces appear to be raiding the Wagner WeWork in St Petersburg, according to @FontankaNews. It's never been entirely clear whether Wagner actually uses that building as an HQ.

▶ Play video
faint harness
shy pine
#

In the hat

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So wait

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The intel guy just filmed a video condemning Wagner 7 hours ago

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Did they capture Surovikhin too, since he was in the same room?

honest hemlock
#

Seems so

shy pine
#

uwu

faint harness
#

I had read the Prighozhin was in St. Pete 2 days ago, an aviation source. Maybe took tracks from there?

warped quiver
#

there is a warrant for prig's arrest, how the heck is this going to escalate, where and when...

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wtf is his next move? he has to draw fire, that is his only option O_o

honest hemlock
#

At least he seems to either been playing around something or he went there to mediate

manic valve
#

Its interesting, the RT coverage of the event feels rawley honest to the leaked images

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Its like the narrative I'm seeing outsiders assemble of what they can gather actually feels like what RT is trying to say

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Which makes me wonder if this is smoke and mirrors

drifting crown
warped quiver
#

yeah it is all super sus but still amazing

manic valve
#

correct me if i'm wrong i'm not allowed to link RT as its a proganda outlet, right?

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(fine obeying this rule, just been awhile since ive been on the server and want to respect the rules)

warped quiver
grim thicket
#

Especially because it's relevant to see exactly how they're putting out propaganda

manic valve
#

You know what's interesting. I'm going to try to VPN to russia and forge my session and browser variables to look like I'm russian and load the russian edition

honest hemlock
#

Got a link please? (:

manic valve
#

for RT

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i wonder if the english narrative is at odds with the russian narrative

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as RT.com is for external english speakers and i know in the past they've diverged

warped quiver
#

I posted a screenshot earlier from radarbox;
#1121882157414100993 message
I think lukashenko bailed to turkey and I think he had some sort of heads up

eternal lark
brisk wave
#

the overall reaction to videos is wild. Prig is talking with the deputy minister of defense: "Who do you think you are that you can say ты (thou) to me?" and the commenters are rooting for Prig even though the official sources are all pushing against wagner. I am surprised that he actually has a chance. A slim chance, but a chance nevertheless

manic valve
#

So the other curious thing is, theres lots of stuff in the RT comments making fun of whats going on in a way thats normally edited out very quickly

shy pine
manic valve
#

Someone has told the RT moderator for their comments section to stand down on mocking comments about RT in general, reporitng, and putin

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I know because I've tried to make VPN driven troll accounts before and quickly get censored for the sleightest dissention

finite elm
manic valve
#

they're careful to call the images 'unverified'

minor jasper
#

Has Putin weighed in on this whole situation yet or no?

manic valve
#

So it might be RT is stoking everyone around but trying to preserve its credibility

minor jasper
#

That's probably the biggest indicator of what Wagner's chances are

manic valve
#

comments section not being policed

minor jasper
#

Seems to me like he'll let them duke it out then be the kingmaker whichever way the wind blows

faint harness
manic valve
#

NOTE: From kremlin propaganda source -

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Normally these kindof comments are quickly removed by the RT censors

tepid eagle
finite elm
#

oho

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good eye

manic valve
#

either RT is in on the smoke and mirrors, or its editorial team is moving into more netural territory

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Notice also them calling it out as a propaganda operation, which is interesting. a little mind--- there

minor jasper
#

They might also just be seeing which way the wind blows without Putin coming down one way or the other

shy pine
#

The editorial team is probably spending most of their time in a mobile banking app, not doing their jobs

manic valve
cosmic dove
#

If RT are being honest now, they will just line up to an official lie later

shy pine
#

And they don't know what the official lie will be yet

manic valve
#

lol yeah i dont think honest- thats why im wondering if this is an op

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The reporting looks TOO honest

brisk wave
minor jasper
#

Hasn't Russia been extremely sloppy with their false flag operations in the past?

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You'd kinda expect that here if it was fake

cosmic dove
#

That happened also around feb when they reported on Russia censoring media abroad. Only to land on the lie that western social media was censoring them later.

cosmic dove
minor jasper
#

Hm interesting

hoary wadi
manic valve
#

I mean there are cracks in some of the imagery and stuff, so maybe it is sloppy.

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RT going suddenly honest is sloppy

minor jasper
#

The rocket footage could have been faked by Pregoshin to act as a casus belli for his coup attempt

finite elm
#

yeah i'm pretty sure that's it

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that july 1st deadline was approaching with integration with PMCs and MoD

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he was getting squeezed out

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so he acted

manic valve
#

My theory for awhile has been Pregoshin is a western asset, but not operative

low kelp
manic valve
#

but wild marijuana / cannabis smoking theory

brisk wave
shy pine
#

How could Prigo have been in Lipetsk?

minor jasper
finite elm
#

allegedly

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woul dhave to sign a contract with MoD

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i think july 1 was the date, may be off, my brain is fried

cosmic tusk
#

DarkChristo is a very appropriate emoji for this thread since he called this 6 monthsish ago

minor jasper
#

If that is the case that alone would make the rocket attack super suspect, why do a rocket attack when your rival is becoming your employee in a week

warped quiver
# finite elm allegedly

gonna be honest I don't know if allegedly alone is the right thing there, maybe "that was the public intent of the MoD"

brisk wave
shy pine
#

I read it as 'Prigozhin's pickup'

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I should go to bed

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Doesn't seem like fighting is about to break out anyway

warped quiver
brisk wave
minor jasper
#

This is what I have trazadone for

shy pine
warped quiver
shy pine
#

Probably shooting at said helo

warped quiver
#

I screenshot a muzzle flash of it, was aiming horizontal, forward

shy pine
#

If there was sustained fighting we would know by now

warped quiver
#

as far as sustained goes, firefights are over in minutes

steel laurel
warped quiver
#

anywho get some sleep

shy pine
#

it's a helicopter, the whole point is to fly low

warped quiver
#

there was no chopper sound in the vid w/ the technical firing forward

steel laurel
ripe citrus
#

Putin will be giving announcement at 9 am Russian time

minor jasper
#

What's that UTC?

primal marten
#

In 23 minutes

minor jasper
#

God dammit I was gonna go to sleep

ripe citrus
#

Fixed!

minor jasper
#

If he's doing an announcement it'll likely make or break this coup

drifting crown
faint harness
#

Putin to address RU at 9am RU time, in 20 minutes (?) looking for link

eternal lark
#

It’s in 21 minutes

minor jasper
#

Question is, is anyone online that can translate Russian

frigid flame
ripe citrus
eternal lark
#

Im sure there will be rapid translations available

finite elm
#

ughhhhhhh

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i want to sleep

warped quiver
#

I am gonna dip after his announcement

ripe citrus
#

No sleep till swan lake

frigid flame
minor jasper
#

Do we know anything about the forces standing between Wagner and Moscow and how they compare to Wagner's convoy?

drifting crown
pale venture
pine girder
finite elm
#

oh wow ,nice one

frigid flame
finite elm
#

how'd you do that

#

just cruising by pavlovsk?

pine girder
finite elm
#

oh that works

#

so what's in pavlovsk

minor jasper
#

So theoretically Wagner is outgunned and outmanned, but who knows what their actual strength is

finite elm
#

why are there so many wagnerovtsy here

brisk wave
minor jasper
#

Wuzzat mean?

orchid quail
# honest hemlock Got a link please? (:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ra-85426/#30d96422 got this from jacks flight tracker discord. Plane geeks sourced the number or were watching it. I think they said it took off going from Rostov to moscow and then turned around back to rostov. Burning candle at both ends rn. I can dig further into the planetracker discord for more details.

frigid flame
warped quiver
alpine nexus
warped quiver
#

idk if that is what he is talking about?

frigid flame
#

https://gfsis.org.ge/maps/russian-military-forces < No idea on source reliability here

warped quiver
#

but ye lukashenk is bailing to turkey imo

minor jasper
#

Lukashenko bailing to Turkey is hilarious as hell

frigid flame
brisk wave
minor jasper
real haven
warped quiver
#

need a live stream for russia's channel 1

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not gonna be on other outlets afaik

minor jasper
#

Let's see if Putin wants the MOD as a scapegoat for the war or whether he feels territorial enough to blast Pregoshin

orchid quail
tepid eagle
#

does anyone know where they're going to broadcast it?

warped quiver
#

channel 1

tepid eagle
#

thanks!

faint harness
#

Is it Marshall Law Time yet?

manic valve
#

Anywhere we can read a translation?

limpid karma
#

Any idea on the threat of nukes coming into the equation even by accident?

faint harness
#

RTLive/English RT

warped quiver
#

I don't know if RT is gonna show it live

finite elm
#

watching some soviet dramas on russian TV until this stupid speech starts

steel laurel
finite elm
#

may want to switch to russia24

manic valve
#

Aric, any translated version of that?

finite elm
minor jasper
#

You don't get to be a dictator without being paranoid as hell

mental path
warped quiver
manic valve
#

Just looking for something captioned

finite elm
#

no translated

brisk wave
#

https://t.me/fighter_bomber/12879 fighterbomber talks about helis shot. He claims that mi-8 was shot on the way from one airport to another, they didn't attack anyone as they are not an attack heli but a REB (radio) heli. He's checking his sources in mi-35

finite elm
#

if you find a youtube live feed, it can do decent live russian subtitles

drifting crown
warped quiver
minor jasper
#

I imagine the Russian nukes work like American nukes, where you need the codes from the commander in chief before you can launch, so even if Wagner did get a nuke they couldn't fire it. I think.

warped quiver
#

american nukes don't need codes xD

primal marten
minor jasper
#

I may be misremembering how the American nuclear chain works in that case

low kelp
#

Yes they do. They need people to decrypt them, then access the lauch keys.

drifting crown
manic valve
#

I wonder if this is an elaborate ruse to get us all to pay attention to russian news

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so they can announce time to nuke the west

#

Basically psyop to terrorize us

minor jasper
#

That'd be a pretty good meme tbh

eternal lark
warped quiver
manic valve
#

which is probably why the western media isnt covering it too much

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esp the stuff that mil-industrial-complex-dnc-revolving-door-arms-industry friendly like CNN

minor jasper
#

I feel like you guys thinking this is all a psyop are giving way too much credit to Russia, tbh

faint harness
warped quiver
#

The concept behind the [Gold] codes is that they permit the president to present positive identification of being the commander-in-chief and thereby authenticate a launch order to the National Military Command Center (NMCC).

finite elm
eternal lark
warped quiver
#

no speech yet

drifting crown
pine girder
low kelp
warped quiver
#

CNN might be covering Putin's speech?

faint harness
weak sonnet
#

Cause i know their (old) subs had 3 men who needed to launch

warped quiver
#

CNN international live

#

it is not his speech, it is a montage

low kelp
alpine warren
#

announcing the extended showings of swan lake?

low kelp
#

On the subs it was the captain and first officer

tepid eagle
#

kind of a bad look for someone whose whole brand is "saving" Russia from the "chaos of the 90s"

finite elm
#
#

MoD addresses Wagner fighters

warped quiver
minor jasper
#

The places people have linked don't seem to have Putin's speech, any word on whether he started it?

finite elm
#

not started

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still waiting

#

they're talking about the MO address to wagnerovtsy now

primal marten
finite elm
#

god shut up lady, no one cares about Tula, put on Putin

minor jasper
#

That was Putin's plan all along, he's going to delay for hours so we can't go to sleep!

manic valve
#

So any word when putin will come on?

#

might dial it in for the night

#

BTW thanks everyone for being so civil and chill its been cool following with ya

hoary wadi
frigid flame
manic valve
#

Vorona, which channel? watching RT live right now

#

And is it in english?

hoary wadi
faint harness
#

Wagner claiming they control RU facilities in Doronetsk, 50 mi n of Rostov, lnk (without resistance, via Mry Rep)

tepid eagle
#

are they just starting over again until Putin goes on?

finite elm
#

kill me

#

have to look at this fat pedo's face while i wait

frigid flame
#

TASS was doing an interesting piece on frog tadpoles in english with russian subtitles

drifting crown
frigid flame
#

that might be more fun

brisk wave
#

a few reports that Voronezh is also controlled by Wagner now. Has anyone seen pics/videos?

warped quiver
tepid eagle
#

scott ritter kind of looks like mike caracciolo in this

frigid flame
warped quiver
#

it is not india

hoary wadi
minor jasper
#

Oh god I made the mistake of glancing at the youtube comments

warped quiver
#

I am thankful there are no comments that I see yet

minor jasper
#

Sorry, not the comments, the live chat

brisk wave
frigid flame
warped quiver
#

according to the metadata on prigo's annoucements on telegram, they were scheduled in advance

#

so maybe it started even >12hrs ago

finite elm
#

Anchor lady on Russian TV: "Next comes an advertisement and then....... an advertisement"
Bedtime for me

warped quiver
#

gn @finite elm

patent rover
#

Goodnight mate

drifting crown
#

They can't find the right Doppelgaenger

primal marten
#

Probably a wise choice.

minor jasper
warped quiver
#

MoD: cyka blyat, we only have the tiny chin putin doppelganger, no one will believe him... blyat

frigid flame
#

I mean, in all fairness, this might be one of the highest risk speeches of Putin's career

#

There's probably plenty of last minute rewriting and strategy going on there

warped quiver
#

speech is officially delayed

minor jasper
#

Did they say to when or nah

warped quiver
#

trying to find a citation

faint harness
#

Youtube LIVE channel SKYNEWS LIVE JUST HEARD CNN NEWS18 & RT PUTIN LATE. Maybe 9:30

brisk wave
#

ah, it's a sign. wake me up when november ends. gn everyone

minor jasper
#

gn!

warped quiver
#

from random chat messages

signal thicket
steady lintel
#

Someone have the link?

lapis pine
#

There's a blocked plane over Russia going from Leningrad Orblast to central Russia on Radarbox.com

warped quiver
terse fable
#

What did I miss in last 6 hours when I was sleeping?

faint harness
dawn olive
minor jasper
#

God the wind in only one ear on the CNN stream is getting to me

warped quiver
#

yeah I have it muted

#

just watching for any sign of pooty

minor jasper
#

I feel like the most interesting outcome is probably that Pooty delays it indefinitely, as that would indicate that he thinks the coup has a decent chance of succeeding and thus isn't taking sides yet

warped quiver
#

if it is delayed indef for real, he is going bunker spelunking

minor jasper
#

Aaaaaaaaabsolutely

real haven
#

Wish he’d hurry up, it’s late and I’m tired lol

warped quiver
#

cnn adjusting camera, freaking me out

dawn olive
minor jasper
drifting crown
frigid flame
mighty kayak
# dawn olive https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1672488557162659843 maybe they can borrow a t...
#

Baza reports that the tank wasn’t “stuck,” but was deliberately “blocking one of the facades of the Southern Military District headquarters,” where Prigozhin met with Deputy Defense Minister Yunus-Bek Yevkurov.

manic valve
#

question, how is cnn not arrested for being in russia?

#

are they all just courageous as hell?

minor jasper
#

I assume it's a traffic livestream from someone else in Russia

warped quiver
manic valve
#

oh interesting

lapis pine
#

"Special Rossiya air squadron flew over Moscow last night: Two presidential helicopters were spotted over the Simferopol highway, the Moscow Ring, and flying toward Putin's residence in Novo-Ogarevo. (outside Moscow near Rublevka)"
This might mean Putin has fled Moscow.

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warped quiver
#

this guy

eternal lark
#

I was in Moscow two months ago and saw the sky news team

ripe citrus
#

They’re risking for sure

faint harness
uncut shore
#

They all had to register as foreign agents, I believe, which puts them in danger of prosecution but they probably have emergency escape plans set up

pale venture
warped quiver
uncut shore
#

Yeah, that's my impression as well

ripe citrus
#

Too bad there was no plan for evan gershkovich

warped quiver
#

damn

#

I am not gonna make it

#

the non-russian Zs are coming for my eyelids

#

I am jittery with caffine
but still tired af

frigid flame
fringe bobcat
#

ignore literally everything that sushko guy says lol

warped quiver
#

don't cite igor alone, find a corroberating source, he is sus

tepid eagle
#

The real reason is that their supercomputer hasn’t yet been able to generate a speech in which this all doesn’t make him look very stupid

warped quiver
#

he exact quotes other tweets w/o retweet, but you can search and find them easy

#

wagner taking positions in Voronezh oblast, unconfirmed

#

imma go to bed gn

hoary wadi
#

Always ignore sushko

mighty kayak
#

The fun's only going to start once the Czar has declared who he's siding with.
And people seem to be overly dismissive of Wagner's and Prigozhin's actual influence. My money is on them.

pale venture
#

for once I'm enjoying my GMT+10 timezone. it's not even dinnertime yet

indigo matrix
#

Igor Sushko: Putin is in the Novo-Ogaryovo bunker listening to 50 Cent's "Many Men."

hollow dagger
#

TASS reporting that Wagner HQ has been "cordoned off". There were also reports last night that it had been raided, but those turned out to be false I think? This is the first time that TASS is reporting this, I think.

https://t.me/tass_agency/197810

mellow rampart
#

so what i missed this morning. who gives a quick summar since 4am kyiv time

ripe citrus
hollow dagger
#
cosmic tusk
#

Wagner getting espresso
I am getting sleepy
I am going to bed

hollow dagger
devout pelican
#

I’ve just woken up after 8 hours sleep

minor jasper
#

Still waiting on PootPoot's announcement after 49 minutes

mighty kayak
keen timber
#

Don’t post him

dawn olive
minor jasper
#

I'mma go to bed, PootPoot has kept me up long enough

devout pelican
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Why do I feel like this speech won’t denounce Prigozhin at all

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Hopefully Putin will take a page out of Shoigu's playbook and wear a giant watch with the actual time of the recording

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Was this Putin then?

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This is bizarre.

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Ooooh. That's not what I expected, but I'll take it.

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Putin looks like he's using that nvidia thing that makes your eyes always look into the center of the camer

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*camera

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So what’s happening? Russian troops are laying down weapons?

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Keep in mind Prigozhin himself said “half of army” is ready to join us- implicitly admitting that he doesn’t have fully support

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Putin called it treason, 'situation around Rostov remains complicated'

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This is a lot more aggressive a speech than I expected

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Seems like Putin has picked a side

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for sure for sure

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He seems to be coming out clearly against Wagner

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How could he not say this is a coup?

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Pregoshin underestimated Putin's fear of coups

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I was expecting him to equivocate more

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Of course he's coming out against Wagner.

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Coup implies some elements in the military are behind it.

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Not like he was going "Oh, okay, I'll replace Shoigu and Gerasimov if you feel that strongly about it"

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Mutiny evokes the Potemkin in 1905 in Russian history; coup the fall of the soviet union and a dark time in living russians' memory

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Potemkin both failed and is very historical/not in people's memories

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Wagner in Africa and Middle East trapped??

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He's ON

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His speech already finished afaik

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Russian President Vladimir Putin Addresses Nation On The Mutiny Attempt | Putin LIVE | Russia News

Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses the nation after the owner of the Wagner private military contractor Yevgeny Prigozhin escalated his direct challenge to the Kremlin on Friday, calling for an armed rebellion aimed at ousting Russia’s def...

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Putin done gone spoke

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It is a stupid take

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I think things are pretty straightforwards tbh

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if anyone wants to share transcript etc of what Putin said, pls do so

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Yeah it just seems like a straight forward coup this

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So Putin is pissed and serious. At the same time trying to address to “rebels” to take the right side. And technically admitted that he doesn’t have control over Rostov

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Sky News's broadcast had a live dub but it won't let me rewind the stream

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With every Russian setback, there's always someone going: "Hmm, what is this in fact a false flag and 5-dimensional chess?" It never is.

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Quick summery

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# minor jasper Sky News's broadcast had a live dub but it won't let me rewind the stream

try this Sky News stream on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE

Watch Sky News live: The Transportation Safety Board of Canada is launching an investigation into the fatal sub tragedy; The head of the Wagner mercenary group has accused Russian military leaders of targeting his troops; A man who shot dead a Metropolitan Police custody sergeant after smuggling a gun into a holding cell has been found guilty of...

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help some of you folks didn't sleep yet

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Any word on what’s happening in bakhmut?

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Big question is now, how much of a fight is Wagner going to put up

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They se

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They seem to have activated Putin's "dictator fight or flight" response, so I don't think they'll get much mercy

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I doubt many will with Putin coming down on the MOD's side

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And it's not like there's reliable opinion poll data among MOD officers

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Putin kept his mark and went off on a historical rant, something about the victory stolen from Russia in wwi because of inner intrigues

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I'm very much of the opinion that Putin kinda lost it in isolation during Covid, and got very focused on reclaiming Russia's "glorious past", and that's influenced his very, very stupid decision to invade Ukraine

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