#Russian Military Coup [DO NOT POST MEMES - DO POST SOURCES]

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versed moth
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although they might still have training equipment

royal imp
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I'm parsing many Russian TG channels and chats - literally nothing on PMC Wagner columns or even a bit similar to it

meager pawn
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straight line to moscow

royal imp
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No photos, no videos

sacred geyser
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Do we have identifying marks that indicate Wagner rather than MOD vehicles?

fringe fjord
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IDK, some troops with APCs, dated armor and even more dated CAS birds... Russian military might be incompetent, but i would still not bet money on that.

frigid flame
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There is some traffic congestion near the LPR/Russian border along the M-50, that might be it

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royal imp
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Didn't they close it?

red geyser
frigid flame
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That's weird for 3 AM in the middle of nowhere

sacred geyser
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frankly we're saying theres no video but what are you expecting?

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they dont just write "WAGNER PMC" in big letters on the wagner apcs do they?

royal imp
red geyser
sacred geyser
heady jungle
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by the way, does Wagner have significant logistic capabilities? I know they rely on MoD's equipment for transport and logistic, which is why I'm quite doubtful they now have the capability to move "columns" of troops.

warped quiver
frigid flame
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Why close the M4 if they're still in LPR?

warped quiver
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honestly I wouldn't be surprised if wagner is split up in a bunch of civvie cars, given they are mercs and not soldiers

gloomy grove
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if you want to read more about wagner #1054884622955184228

charred latch
fringe fjord
warped quiver
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that is what I am thinking

gloomy grove
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we don't know why the highway is closed

primal marten
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News!

heady jungle
# frigid flame That's weird for 3 AM in the middle of nowhere

not at all to be honest. it's a major highway and I don't know about Russia, but in my country in western europe lorries are allowed to travel mostly by night, so a small road closure can lead to a big traffic jam even in the middle of the night. I've witnessed hours long queues driving in the middle of the night because of that.

versed wyvern
gloomy grove
versed wyvern
red geyser
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Everyone's asleep right now, but 4 AM is the ideal time for an invasion

fringe fjord
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Or Prig's Toyota popped a tire.

gloomy grove
frigid flame
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If there is a convoy headed towards M4 / rostov from Ukraine, I'd expect the first videos to come from Novoshakhtinsk (if that helps those searching online)

warped quiver
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wagner definitely has some pantsirs, definitely has at least 1 su-24

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they may own an IL-76, but I don't see them mounting a paradrop on moscow, but that would be tacticool as hell

frigid flame
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The E50 passes through a decent sized urban area (100k people) through downtown

heady jungle
versed wyvern
frigid flame
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Even at 4 AM, that's big enough that you might get some video from there

versed wyvern
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3 lanes on both directions mind you

primal marten
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Nothing new.

honest hemlock
broken oyster
versed wyvern
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And it is closed in both directions

fringe fjord
versed moth
# gloomy grove they do, I've seen it plenty

A super long traffic jam on a normally empty road in the middle of the night in Russia is super sus in my wast experience living in Russia. WOuld be a really weird coinsidence

meager pawn
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@gloomy grove are you still watching cams?

warped quiver
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trying to figure out wtf this is - this is roadblock on Rostov-on-Don highway

gloomy grove
heady jungle
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well, my dog is officially begging me to go to sleep so I guess it's time, good night everyone!

meager pawn
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i hear rostov cams just went down

gloomy grove
gusty tapir
honest hemlock
sacred geyser
red geyser
gusty tapir
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Or port containers. But probably vics

gloomy grove
warped quiver
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he is browsing the feed there ^

meager pawn
red geyser
versed moth
fringe fjord
gusty tapir
gloomy grove
frigid flame
versed moth
fringe fjord
red geyser
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Ateo Breaking is saying Yandex is now blocking search terms related to Prigozhin

warped quiver
gloomy grove
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hypothesising on the internet is common, we try to be a little different here

primal marten
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Prigozhin's story got more elaborate: missiles, helicopters and then artillery: ```❗️ "Today we were hit by a missile attack, after that the helicopters worked out, after that - the artillery. The command came from the Chief of the General Staff to destroy the Wagner PMC after a meeting with the Minister of Defense.
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We crossed the state borders, the border guards came out to meet and hugged our fighters.

Now we go to Rostov. The conscripts, who were thrown to block our road, stepped aside. We don't fight children. Children are killed by Shoigu, throwing untrained soldiers into the war. We fight only with professionals.

If anyone gets in the way, we will destroy everything that gets in the way. We extend our hand to everyone, no need to spit in this hand. We go on and go to the end.

As for statements about arrests, this is brotherhood, this is justice, this is honor, this is conscience - that's what we have. When you make these statements, you don't have those feelings. You can understand nothing but betrayal."```

warped quiver
sacred geyser
meager pawn
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alrighty

gusty tapir
primal marten
opaque frost
meager pawn
frigid flame
opaque frost
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they repeated it

gusty tapir
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Ah

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Btw, can someone eli5 what Ateo is?

frigid flame
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"Residents of Novoshakhtinsk said they noticed military equipment on the streets of the city. Photos and videos posted on social media show the movement of several armored personnel carriers. Why they are in the city and where they are going is still unknown."

meager pawn
opaque frost
versed moth
# meager pawn

Translation: "The statements that are distributed under the name of Eugeni Prigozhin have no basis to them. In relation to these statements FSB of Russia has opened a criminal case due to the fact of inciting an armed rebellion. We demand to stop criminal activity immediately." National Antiterror Comittee

warped quiver
honest hemlock
warped quiver
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the red line on the trucks is wagner-esque

frigid flame
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I think those are OMON trucks; I vaguely remember the red stripe from the last time I was in Russia years ago

honest hemlock
warped quiver
honest hemlock
frigid flame
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There's a stock photo of an OMON truck that looks very similar

warped quiver
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might be the OMON logo

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versed moth
warped quiver
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OMON also have blue stripes

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versed moth
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And this is RosGvardiya

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faint harness
warped quiver
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got any images of the trucks from the back?

meager pawn
warped quiver
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they should have some tags on the trucks that are uniform on the back

warped quiver
frigid flame
fringe fjord
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But tbh that can be just russians russing

warped quiver
sacred geyser
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without visual confirmation i dont believe it

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they said that hours ago

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hell that post itself is 3 hours old

warped quiver
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yeah it is 3hrs old - that is in the pic

gloomy grove
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that might be an interesting data point since government marks roadblocks on the highways. there didn't seem to be any signs in the video confirming the street name or number

sacred geyser
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if there's no video or photos in 3 hours either wagner has the greatest OPSEC in the world or its not real

fringe fjord
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If this is all some Ukrainian psyop, I will be tipping my hat for weeks.

versed wyvern
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by the way this is an excellent time to plug Geogramint

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Made by a frenchman (!)

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meager pawn
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is traffic data for rostov still coming thru?

versed wyvern
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Allows you to see "around me" users in telegram. Frontline soldiers usually have their opsec tight but not necessarily national guardsmen

gloomy grove
versed wyvern
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thanks, will put it if it's not already

gloomy grove
honest hemlock
frigid flame
faint harness
frigid flame
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Based on the position, that's far more likely to be the wagner convoy than anything else I've heard of so far

sacred geyser
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FYI netblocks reporting massive internet blackouts nation wide

gusty tapir
sacred geyser
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so expect information to get harder to come by

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will get a source now

gusty tapir
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If so, it would be a great time to delete the hell out of it

sacred geyser
frigid flame
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It could also be that wagner is not operating in a convoy, is using civilian vehicles, and has spread out. the roads between rostov and Ukraine probably see quite a lot of military vehicles, because highway to warzone, it may be people have gotten tired of posting them, especially in small groups mixed with civilian vehicles/technicals in the middle of the night

wispy dragon
warped quiver
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sacred geyser
desert escarp
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burnt steppe
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Google news is reported to have been down over in Russia.

nimble river
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Blocked roads.

sacred geyser
gusty tapir
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This is the Turkish coup all over again

burnt steppe
honest hemlock
frigid flame
warped quiver
sacred geyser
frigid flame
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I suspect that's russian southern military district

meager pawn
warped quiver
frigid flame
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The russian southern military district HQ is 400 meters from there

honest hemlock
sacred geyser
warped quiver
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red geyser
warped quiver
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The Head of General Staff is not calming down: a mistake of any African dictator is to deal air strikes at civilian areas. Right now in the air are two planes numbered 523 and 546 that are trying now to deal these strikes.
can we find those planes?

red geyser
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I doubt it, their transponders likely aren't on

warped quiver
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on the ground is fine, historical

honest hemlock
warped quiver
meager pawn
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how could they get to the M4 without any pedestrians or something filming them in rostov?

red geyser
gusty tapir
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What are these?

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meager pawn
gusty tapir
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Those are new

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Like last hour new

meager pawn
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so they can adjust the toll booths depending on the flow of traffic one way or the other

frigid flame
honest hemlock
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Damn, I had closed already the multicam loldog

red geyser
gusty tapir
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Wonder if they are normal or not

red geyser
sacred geyser
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this is when i wish i still had my planet.com account 😦

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could just task a satellite to go take a picture of the road

honest hemlock
meager pawn
gusty tapir
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Didn't see them in the stream about an hour ago

meager pawn
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couldve been lighting

honest hemlock
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I don't recall them either

gusty tapir
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Maybe

meager pawn
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they really are just traffic dividers though, i wouldnt divert much thought to it

honest hemlock
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And thoseglasses seem reflective, we would have seen them from the cars passing

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But still, agreed that maybe they're not worth much of a thought

gusty tapir
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Probably

sacred geyser
red geyser
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heady jungle
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Is tonight the night I’ll see a big mushroom cloud in the distance ??

gusty tapir
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Or w/e this is

gusty tapir
tepid eagle
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I'm usually pretty skeptical, but this looks like a wagner Chekan to me

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red geyser
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check the website, that's a meme

sacred geyser
heady jungle
warped quiver
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this might be memes sir

gusty tapir
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dammit

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F****** twitter

tepid eagle
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imagine the reference without the front attachment

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red geyser
gusty tapir
red geyser
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yes that one's real

gusty tapir
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Aye

honest hemlock
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Yep, there are strikes in Ukraine ongoing unfortunately, but please keep it in the Ukraine channel and leave here only what is directly relevant to this event

red geyser
warped quiver
red geyser
tepid eagle
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not necessarily

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but it supports the claim

red geyser
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I'm getting blueballed here

heady jungle
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Imma be honest I just joined this server after hearing about this shit a few mins ago, who is the Wagner group

gloomy grove
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you came to the wrong discord for hype

gusty tapir
faint harness
gloomy grove
warped quiver
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I am 99% sure this is "real" enough and that we'll see some sort of combat after action report within several hours

gusty tapir
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To little time has passed, and too many high profile events happening all within minutes of eachother

burnt steppe
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There's a column building up north of Rostov

red geyser
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Girkin rant

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heady jungle
versed wyvern
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https://fxtwitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672396993581268995

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All the Russian Guards and FSB from the neighboring regions were driven to Rostov, as the Russian voenkors write, there have already been clashes between the FSB and Wagner in the region.
MAKS 23 👀🇺🇦 (@Maks_NAFO_FELLA)

All the Russian Guards and FSB from the neighboring regions were driven to Rostov, as the Russian voenkors write, there have already been clashes between the FSB and Wagner in the region.

▶ Play video
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this video is 6 years old

gusty tapir
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fringe fjord
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The video with white Z marks on trucks is 6 years old?

warped quiver
frigid flame
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If someone with really good eyes can tell the difference in that video of the possible wagner convoy it might say where on the M4 they are

fresh belfry
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again i dont think the bus video shows central reservation streetlights

meager pawn
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E50 onto the M4 shows congestion according to google

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gloomy grove
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meager pawn
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warped quiver
burnt steppe
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Found one in 0.04 seconds.

noble cape
meager pawn
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yeah right at the start

fringe fjord
sacred geyser
meager pawn
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video taken out of twitter embed for ease of use

burnt steppe
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Highly doubt it's "6 years old"

gloomy grove
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I see it now, thanks. how'd I miss that Hypersweatblob

faint harness
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VCHK-OGPU - from their source: "The attempts to act against #Prigozhin come solely from FSB and Russian Guards. The Ministry of Defense has withdrawn itself, lower-rank officers either simply refuse to follow orders, or openly support Wagner.
As for Shoigu and co. - they simply hid and entirely lost their touch with reality. Apparently, the scare is serious." https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672403954775257090

Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en)

VCHK-OGPU - from their source: "The attempts to act against Prigozhin come solely from FSB and Russian Guards. The Ministry of Defense has withdrawn itself, lower-rank officers either simply refuse to follow orders, or openly support Wagner.
As for Shoigu and co. - they simply…

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burnt steppe
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Kinda wish I can examine the twitter's videos' EXIF data.

warped quiver
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don't they strip it?

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frigid flame
gloomy grove
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mellow rampart
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meager pawn
frigid flame
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Yeah, curved is north (E50/M4), V is south (further down the M4 towards Rostov)

sacred geyser
# red geyser

translation:

A helicopter that opened fire on a civillian convoy was shot down by Wagner PMC forces

fringe fjord
warped quiver
gloomy grove
warped quiver
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but 1 is enough IMO

fringe fjord
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'twas me

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gloomy grove
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yes I just need 1

honest hemlock
sacred geyser
gloomy grove
warped quiver
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restroom break time

tepid eagle
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Sushko? Making things up? Surely not

heady jungle
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honest hemlock
warped quiver
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I'll tell wagner to wait for you to get back @gloomy grove

red geyser
sacred geyser
gloomy grove
burnt steppe
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Anyways.

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I'm trying to find that alleged down helicopter and see if there's any image or footage of it.

meager pawn
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Now im just wondering about the position of the video where the streetlamps are on the outside of the highway with the rosgvardya Z trucks

tepid eagle
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does anyone know what the original source is for that column video?

meager pawn
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@frigid flame any highway sections spring to mind?

frigid flame
honest hemlock
tepid eagle
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no the alleged wagner one

meager pawn
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the one with the truck pov or the vehicle driving past the convoy?

honest hemlock
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Found the link to the tweet I shared in Project Owl, so no clue of anything beyond that

tepid eagle
burnt steppe
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Need to clarify with everyone. Whenever someone mentions Rostov, that's referring to 'Rostov-on-Don' or Rostov by the Yaroslavl Oblast?

honest hemlock
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Rostov on Don

burnt steppe
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Cheers.

gloomy grove
mellow rampart
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https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45230

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frigid flame
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Rostov-on-Don is the 10th largest city in Russia and the HQ of the Southern Military District; hadn't heard of the other Rostov until today

mellow rampart
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‼️ The first video that reportedly shows the battle between PMC Wagner and units of the Ministry of Defense.

warped quiver
fresh belfry
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There are more similar street lamps/ central reservation sections along the E58

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47.2636707649275, 39.60277354537625

faint harness
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@[email protected]/110596430009819523 Wagner just shot down a Russian helicopter, which opened fire on the column - beautiful. will there be a video?)
#Ukraine️ #Russia #Putin #EU #NATO #Zelensky #war #news #Moscow #USA #UK #Germany #Poland #France #Turkey #Wagner #Prigozhin

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meager pawn
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doubt they would come along the E58

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is there much of a wagner presence in mariupol area?

regal ridge
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That's rather annoying.

mellow rampart
red geyser
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I don't understand the point of uploading a photo of a helicopter with an X over it if there's no actual footage of the helicopter being destroyed

tepid eagle
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clout

true basin
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warped quiver
true basin
sacred geyser
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let me get the raw video up here

desert escarp
warped quiver
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at the very least, that video (https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45230) looks like it has some legit explosions behind smoke on a frickin highway which is damn hard to fake on short notice

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sacred geyser
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raw video

red geyser
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You can certainly hear the helicopters in the background that Prigozhin is constantly complaining about

frigid flame
warped quiver
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anyone else excited rn? xD

red geyser
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tepid eagle
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meager pawn
sacred geyser
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unfortunately most of the video is shite for location

faint harness
# tepid eagle clout

type/style to look for in the ruble while we wait for more footage.. BTW, Twitter is down for alot of peeps and trying to get info/intel from my mstdn, where I co-follow many but it ain't easy

versed wyvern
ripe citrus
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If those videos are real we should be seeing more coming in

heady jungle
red geyser
warped quiver
red geyser
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more footage?

warped quiver
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it is the same as just posted above

fresh tree
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what is happening

red geyser
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oops

honest hemlock
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Project Owl has released a map much like the one they have for Ukraine: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1_cf4gQsRVqYfcT4rSSzHuF8ziui3JsM&ll=47.095023759311744%2C39.8842552341659&z=11

Google My Maps
Russia Control Map - Google My Maps

Russia Control Map continuously updated by people at Project Owl OSINT (@projectowlosint)

Discord: https://discord.com/invite/projectowl

Information:

  • Presence = reports of troops but no specific geolocation or imagery; covers a very wide area
  • Position = there is some sort of evidence and/or geolocation of troops in question; covers a small...
fresh tree
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oh sry

red geyser
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So far we have two videos of actual combat

fresh tree
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didnt know its been posted

sacred geyser
heady jungle
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Hard to keep up right now. There's a lot of excitement over the events.

frigid flame
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As a reminder, remember that Rostov Oblast (similar to a state in the US) and Rostov-on-don (city, capital of rostov oblast) could both be used interchangeably here as 'Rostov'

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Rostov Oblast is the size of Maryland and includes rural / small town areas as well

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So it's possible locals claiming videos are from Rostov may be from anywhere between the LPR / DPR border and the city of Rostov itself, because they could be referring to the Oblast

burnt steppe
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Most likely all the information are referring to Rostov-on-don.

frigid flame
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In much the same way that NY could refer to NY state or city

frigid flame
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This is different from Rostov in the Moscow area, which is... not being referred to at all for those confused there. 🙂

meager pawn
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how the hell do you geolocate that

honest hemlock
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Practice and lots of patience

burnt steppe
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Yep.

red geyser
warped quiver
burnt steppe
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You usally get used to it by locating specific signs or noticeable objects that are unique to an area.

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I'm still figuring it out lol

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Funny enough, according to the coordinates, IKEA is nearby.

meager pawn
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thats kinda funny

red geyser
meager pawn
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hope the ikea people are ok

placid socket
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Deleted?

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warped quiver
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true basin
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he reposted it with a slightly different point

burnt steppe
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Ahh alright.

red geyser
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there it is

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gloomy grove
# fresh belfry

could you link to the source, please, so we can backtrack later if we need to

meager pawn
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meager pawn
fresh belfry
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it came from a sketchy imageboard sorry, i will try to find a better source

red geyser
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red geyser
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https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45233 second bit of combat footage

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warped quiver
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yeah tweet is still there

meager pawn
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oh lol

honest hemlock
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gloomy grove
honest hemlock
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They sometimes repost questionable stuff

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honest hemlock
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Yep, tweet deleted

meager pawn
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damn

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wispy dragon
meager pawn
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i guess the guy wasnt patient/experienced enough 🤣

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opaque frost
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meager pawn
burnt steppe
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Could maybe triangulate based on the nearby airbases.

red geyser
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# red geyser https://t.me/Donbas_Operativniy/45233 second bit of combat footage

Earlier versions of those videos: https://t.me/tucha888/14447 https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7016

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❗️Кадры перемещения Пригожинских колонн техники,в Ростовской области

На видео среди прочей техники современные танки Т-90М и БМП-3.

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Russian Patriot

видео с колонной вагнера

honest hemlock
frigid flame
# meager pawn is there a significance with this airport?

Na, just the old decommissioned international airport; it's been replaced by a newer one further away. No idea if it's been repurposed due to the Ukraine war, but it's not the large airbase in Rostov (which is what i was checking)

wispy dragon
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Has there been an incursion into Rostov before that could lead to footage like this?

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heady jungle
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Visegrad24 isn't helping!

red geyser
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honest hemlock
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opaque frost
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yeah, he also jsut added

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versed moth
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It just occured to me that while everyone is scrambling to repel Wagner from the Rostov direction based solely on Prigozhin's words, he may have used all this hype as a ruse (which would explain the astonishing lack of, you know, verifiable Wagner forces moving in the area he said they were moving in).

Whether such a ruse could be used for an infiltration from other directions or to buy time to evacuate or disperse is impossible to say, but maybe, just maybe, we would be wise to check some other vectors of approach to the final goal

meager pawn
opaque frost
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and if somebody can find something on internet, thats aric

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Also, it's 4:12 AM in Rostov at the moment. Sunrise is at 4:26 AM. This is a uniquely helpful time because sky brightness will be changing a bunch over then next ~1 hour

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group_mutiny new wikipedia article just dropped

Wagner Group mutiny

On 23 June 2023, Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin alleged that soldiers of the Russian Ministry of Defense were shelling his positions. Prigozhin promised to take revenge on the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. Prigozhin said the "evil" in the military leadership must be stopped and vowed to "March for Justice". He also dismissed just...

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idk man

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Still nice article.

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all it takes is one civi with a phone and your secret entrance is busted

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^

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@tepid eagle Rob Lee also thinks it's a Chekan MRAP, he's not aware of any Russian forces that use them beyond Wagner: https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1672409506901368833

Rob Lee (@RALee85)

Russian channels are sharing a video allegedly showing a Wagner column in Rostov. Can’t tell the location from the footage (or the original source), but the lead vehicle looks like a Chekan MRAP, which is used by Wagner.
https://t.co/YTWslCql5g
https://t.co/uLL7CskRqu

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Need to find a source for that.

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If Wagner actually succeeds doing damage this might be a gorbachev coup scenario where this causes Putin to lose control

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Yeah.

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You can never know with how things are going with this war, but I think it's really soon to think of that scenario

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He's likely hiding in a bunker somewhere

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The safest thing to do is talk through spokespeople and wait and see to make a personal statement

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Moving in the right direction at least

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I think it's safe to call it a mutiny

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Suitably heterogeneous

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Anyone who thinks that Putin is going to fall by the likes of a group of mercenaries, forgets that Assad still reigns. If that bastard can't fall, Putin's going nowhere.

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Governor of the Lipetsk region Artamonov urged residents to refrain from traveling to the south:

"Based on the results of the meeting of the operational headquarters it was decided to strengthen security measures in the region. Particular attention will be paid to critical infrastructure objects. In addition, the region's residents are now advised to refrain from traveling to the south, in particular, to Voronezh region.

Friends, the recent events have alarmed us all. But I ask everyone to remain calm and believe only the information from official sources. - Russian Patriot

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what the fucking hell is this

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# gloomy grove link to source?

https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7018

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Губернатор Липецкой области Артамонов призвал отказаться жителям от поездок в южном направлении:

«По итогам заседания оперативного штаба принято решение об усилении мер безопасности в регионе. Особое внимание будет уделено объектам критической инфраструктуры. Кроме того, жителям региона рекомендуется сейчас отказаться от поездок в южном направл...

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LMAO

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That's a very narrow window, which is a LOT of credibility

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wait a sec

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Also we have seen very few flags on AFVs in this war

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But it's perfect for a March of Justice

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did I miss it?

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shit is he becoming an antihero

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prigozhin's character arc won't last long

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So there's almost definitely a Wagner presence in Rostov, but where they are and how many of them there are is uncertain

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One very interesting thing to note if there's fighting outside of Rostov-on-Don directly is that we saw what seemed to be OMON blocking off that entire highway

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newer roadblocks to the south of Rostov on Don

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And so there's some legitimacy to what Prigozhin is saying if they're in Rostov - the national guard let him through without firing a shot across numerous checkpoints

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we're seeing airstrikes and not artillery, and I don't think we'll see artillery for another day if they actually get footholds

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(Real as in from tonight)

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It's a bit odd for Wagner to use a truck to carry a mechanized BMP.

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e.g. planning to quick dismount (the bmp from the truck)

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Yeah a truck will use less fuel than a BMP

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Not to mention, avoiding maintenance and breakdowns of heavy equipment too.

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I think wagner might be flying russian flags, it would make sense, tactically and for rallying support from Z patriots

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"It is therefore most likely that Prigozhin fully intends for Wagner to move against MoD leadership and forcibly remove them from power, more likely against the Southern Military District command in Rostov-on-Don but possibly also against Moscow. ISW is unable to confirm exactly where the bulk of Wagner forces are currently located, but it currently appears more likely that Prigozhin intends for Wagner to move on the MoD assets in Rostov. Following Wagner’s withdrawal from Bakhmut in late May and early June, a large contingent of Wagner forces likely remained in rear areas of Ukraine, particularly in Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, or else at Wagner’s training facility near Molkino, Krasnodar Krai. Considering the relative proximity of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts and Krasnodar Krai to Rostov Oblast, the more likely course of action may be that Prigozhin views the MoD in Rostov as the most viable target of a Wagner armed rebellion. Prigozhin claimed at 0200 local time (1900 EST) that Wagner forces have crossed Russia’s international border into Rostov Oblast and claimed they face no resistance, but ISW has not observed visual confirmed of any Wagner movements as of the time of this publication.[18]"

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so we might be seeing wagner forces plus >2% of russian army? in coordination

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Yeah, that's my question

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Are there regular russian army units mixed in with Wagner? There's got to be relationships there at the tactical level at least

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Still need to find that source where it was alleged that an FSB border guard allowed in Wagner without resistance.

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lots of other reports that russian forces let wagner through and refuse to attack wagner etc.

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They could have, you know, got paid to let them through

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Either seems plausible.

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It's Russia, so maybe all it took was to bribe Conscriptovich

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Not to mention the low morale amongst the Russian army.

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Could persuade some to join Wagner.

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Wagner has spent a lot of time making their cruelty clear too

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inb4 ukraine supports prigozhin wtf.

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inb4 nato supports prigozhin ffs.

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yeah no

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But that was a few months ago.

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warped quiver
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man that would be masterful misdirection if he managed to convince the RuAF to airstrike a column of civvies by mixing in a few technicals

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is this new?

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Right, ima disengage and order some Japanese ramen with beef. Can't wait to see where this goes.

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It will certainly be ironic if the army that happily flattens any populated area refuses to fight Wagner's gang of psychopaths

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thanks!

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Red Square closed today due to "scheduled events" https://t.me/rusbrief/129093

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Красная площадь и Мавзолей Ленина 24 июня будут планово закрыты для посетителей.
Решение принято из-за «проведения мероприятий». ФСО не уточняло, в связи с какими мероприятиями будут закрыты объекты. По информации источника «Интерфакса», они связаны с чествованием выпускников российских учебных заведений.

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# gloomy grove thanks!

credit to @red geyser now that I figured out how to get Discord to give me a message link on mobile: #1121882157414100993 message

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# gloomy grove yes it is

I think it was a bit shorter when I mentioned it a couple hours ago, I don't recall it extended into Voronezh Oblast, but that's just what I recall

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voronezh itself is pretty blocked off too

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it may help later geolocation efforts

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I may have missed something suggestive and contextual

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^geolocate pls

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# warped quiver

Weird comment, but the buses are interesting. It's before 5 AM, how early do Rostov city buses run?

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versed moth
# shy pine He didn't say Wagner in the video

Wrong, he did say that. "Wagnera tolko chto privezli ebaniy tank. Oni edut v centr" translates as Wagner's guys have just brought a fucking tank. THey are moving towards the center (of the city)

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source

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I mean what are they going to do against tanks lol

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OMON's like riot police/SWAT

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https://vxtwitter.com/walter_report/status/1672421685826408448?s=46&t=MDxryAqm1PZ6AocrV64Cbg

vxTwitter
Another armored column of Wagner PMC faction of russians heading into Rostov-on-Don in russia, where an uknown number of “loyalists” russian faction and Rossgvardiya troops are present. #RussiaCivilWar #coup #RussianCoup
Walter Report 🇺🇦 (@walter_report)

Another armored column of Wagner PMC faction of russians heading into Rostov-on-Don in russia, where an uknown number of “loyalists” russian faction and Rossgvardiya troops are present.
#RussiaCivilWar #coup #RussianCoup

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# warped quiver

I believe Rostov area code is 863, but 928 could be Krasnodar region or surrounding areas

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I think it's a vibes based IFF at the moment

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I mean, if I'm OMON and I see a tank / APC, I'm not going to shoot at it - i'm trained for crowd control and never seen action

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I'm sure it'll go great for everyone

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I wish both sides good luck

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I think expecting OMON to stop mercinaries was always a long shot

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If they're not shooting at me, I'm gonna shrug and wave them through - not get in a battle

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Plus it’s Wagner - they have their reputation

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frigid flame
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Yeah, and OMON is not exactly frontline soldiers or special forces, it's the Russian SWAT/riot cops equivalent

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yeah if you're gonna pull out a frame, maybe reply to the og video post

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clearly filled with tacticool dudes

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^ beautiful, just posting in case it gets taken down

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All trucks with red lines are Rosgvardiya for instance

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wow is this really happening?

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im so exhausted but dam

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This is all so incredibly funny. I'm so glad I got champagne for the occasion

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Seeing massive amounts of troops standing around in Rostov

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let's see how many KLC/KFC there are in Rostov

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The russian southern military district headquarters is at Budennovsky Prospekt 43, Rostov-on-Don; that's about 3,000 feet away

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im not sure honestly how to feel about this

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Don't seem to be outright shelling the city just yet. Maybe both sides rushing to control strategic points around town?

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it could move in so many different ways

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im not sure its a good thing or a really horrible thing

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If that's wagner and they haven't ran into resistance yet.... I don't think they will before they hit the military headquarters

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The government of the Voronezh region stated that a column of military equipment is moving along the M-4 Don road, the situation is under control, and "the region's power structures are taking all necessary measures to ensure the safety of the people of the region. https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7030

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Правительства Воронежской области заявило, что по дороге М-4 Дон движется колонна военной техники, ситуация находится под контролем, а "силовые структуры региона проводят все необходимые мероприятия для обеспечения безопасности жителей области"

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If Wagner is ensconced in Rostov this probably can't end quickly

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I would expect the Rostov North Air Base is probably also a target, given that's the main AFB in rostov and clearly they're worried about airstrikes

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Or maybe they will negotiate

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Who's who here?

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# pine girder 47.232787, 39.739849 https://yandex.com/maps/-/CCUDbKQq2C

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/47.232787,39.739849/Srednyaya+Obshcheobrazovatelnaya+Shkola+№+43,+MOU,+Budonnovskiy+Prospekt,+64,+Rostov-on-Don,+Rostov+Oblast,+Russia,+344000/@47.2300838,39.7017075,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x40e3b9a8f82b0a17:0x50abb7c1e7419842!2m2!1d39.7047564!2d47.2276138!3e2?entry=ttu

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That geolocation to southern military district headquarters

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heady jungle
# frigid flame If it's the Russian military, this is them reinforcing wagner's stated target. ...

This is an interesting Prigozhin agenda guess: https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/status/1672421296867627008?s=20

david D. (@secretsqrl123)

ok im in texas watching this... BUT from what im getting and what i think will happen is.....
right now WAG forces are going to rostov with a clear mandate to do the following...

  1. take the 4 airfields.
  2. clear the skies of all unfriendly aircraft.
  3. rush the military storage…
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Meanwhile Russian opposition - Sobol, Khodorkovsky openly support Prigozhin on their social media. khodorkovsky urged Russians to help Wagner on their way to Moscow

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the KFC is this one 47.232932346703365, 39.73991302954414

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lol

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# versed moth links pls

https://t.me/khodorkovski/8345

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Пригожинский мятеж, не смотря на свою половинчатость и неподготовленность – сильнейший удар по путинской репутации.
Кремлевские тролли разгоняют, что завтра все будет ок.
Увы им – не будет!

Даже если окажется, что на самом деле пригожинские бойцы не вышли за пределы своего места дислокации (хотя точно вышли), увещевания воинских начальников, ...

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I mean everyone's probably already following this guy already

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Yeah, who the hell are you Giorgi Revishvili and why do you get all these videos before us? loldog

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Everyone's claiming that the troops in Rostov rn are Wagner, is there proof of that?

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47.22306425716557, 39.70596160203404

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Guys, as someone who has lived in Russia, RED LINES= ROSGVARDIYA/NATIONAL GUARD vehicles. That’s many of the ones pictures in Rostov

honest hemlock
# heady jungle Not when I refer to it as a guess, which I did.

So I'll explain this before Sarah does it, but here we don't work like the rest of the internet, we don't try to guess and speculate but actually do research with evidence and data. Don't mean this as anything personal or an attempt to gatekeep, just informing of how this place works

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Yeah that shit looks like the 90s

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Transnistria vintage

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Thanks!

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I REALLY NEED SOME POPCORN 🍿

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will we see someone with a gun riding one of those scooters by the end of this?

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Well this is interesting

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I'm inclined to think it's Wagner due to the way they're clearing everything

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# meager pawn

please post a source with just images. a link, whatever. it is critical and a rule of this discord

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That's a lot of dumb tourists gawking about

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Potential Wagner IFF: Wagner troops seem to still be wearing their white invasion armbands, normally for differentiating against Ukrainian troops. Doubt Russian troops or cops in Rostov would be wearing armbands

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At least Tai Chi lady had the excuse of Youtube+Music+Meditation

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well if anybody cared enough its easily locatable by the buildings

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Prigozhin just dropped another voice memo

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better than not sharing it at all right?

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As Chadwick Boseman said it: "We don't do that here"

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Prig new audio!

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right, ill stop sharing then

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This is an old photo, but because I see people speculating if what is pictured is Wagner, this is how a Rosgvardiya vehicle looks like. Long, clear red lines. They are not regular armed forces, but part of security forces. You see these lines on normal vehicles (cars) too

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oh boring, just mroe helicopter talk

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pretty much

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any technicals are likely Wagner

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So far, I think we've only seen red Zs on that one tank. Probably not enough for a pattern. Wagner troops with armbands seems(?) to be more uniform but nothing solid for vehicles

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A few hours ago I thought this might be over by tomorrow, but no longer so sure

loud root
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Just reading about this, wth is going on?

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Haven't they been using white arm bands the entire conflict, the whole of the Russian force that is?

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Just note that Aric is leaning to err on the side of being overly cautious about these events

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"Helicopter was destroyed on the Moscow highway after an attempt to fire at the "Wagner" PMC" - Prigozhin

"We will perceive as a threat and destroy everything around us, we are ready to die for everything."

honest hemlock
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Now that I think about it, what are Russia's military bases in Rostov?

red geyser
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"The people of Russia must be freed" - Prigozhin

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Like worst case scenario: nuclear silos

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Don't want Prigo to hold his hands into one of those

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Truck itself

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regal ridge
# honest hemlock Now that I think about it, what are Russia's military bases in Rostov?

Millerovo Air Base. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerovo_(air_base)

Millerovo (air base)

Millerovo is an air base in Millerovsky District, Rostov Oblast of the Russian Aerospace Forces as part of the 4th Air and Air Defence Forces Army, Southern Military District.
The base is home to the 31st Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment which has two squadrons of Sukhoi Su-30SM (NATO: Flanker-H)The 368th Assault Aviation Regiment with Sukhoi Su...

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Please correct me if I'm wrong

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There are feet visible underneath

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The fighter and bomber bases in the oblast are not in Rostov city proper

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Oof

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Not intentional

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I have an unrelated and irrelevant Q about why a stack of bricks are tied to that utility pole.

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making a situation doesnt contribute to that

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also a chance the driver in that vehicle willingly switched side

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Idk how true they are however

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I know the US shares warheads so they're some stationed in turkey and Italy and holland

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So... how long til Elon Musk calls this a psyop? 😛

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Isn’t it premature to say these are Wagner troops pictured? I have seen only Rosgvardiya insignia and most soldiers have very standardised gear

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And I think no one can be sure of whether troops will follow orders to fire on Wagner. To give the order and not have it carried out is a disaster. Better to hedge your bets.

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any hot takes from kim dotcom yet?

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Don’t Wagner run most of the troll farms? In which case they know how much has been censored and how fed up the Russian people are

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we have audio from earlier videos of shooting, purportedly between wagner / russian army or MoD forces

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It is reported that the PMC has been cordoned off for the time being:

  • South Military District headquarters;
  • the police department at Budennovskoye;
  • Headquarters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs;
  • UVSB;
  • Rostov administration.
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Heh, never actually seen them use red Z's before

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OMON are essentially a well armed police force

charred latch
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They aren't soldiers

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there is a kim dotcom hot take and its predictably bad

red geyser
gusty tapir
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Ehhhh, I'll take that with a grain of salt

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That phot would be East facing btw

red geyser
gusty tapir
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If anybody facies to geo it

gloomy grove
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honest hemlock
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So something I'm noting is that Project Owl identified in the night Russian troops in Rostov, so I wonder if these ones we're seeing now are just the same divisions and not Wagner

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1_cf4gQsRVqYfcT4rSSzHuF8ziui3JsM&ll=47.22366888188867%2C39.74397090311864&z=14

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Russia Control Map continuously updated by people at Project Owl OSINT (@projectowlosint)

Discord: https://discord.com/invite/projectowl

Information:

  • Presence = reports of troops but no specific geolocation or imagery; covers a very wide area
  • Position = there is some sort of evidence and/or geolocation of troops in question; covers a small...
charred latch
gloomy grove
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went to check on the roads and i was still zoomed in on the kfc 🍗

quasi night
shy pine
red geyser
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Пивнофф bar

red geyser
ripe citrus
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I wonder if we’ll hear any statements from the bunker. Putin doesn’t like to announce bad news

shy pine
red geyser
warped quiver
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hmg?

red geyser
gloomy grove
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what MOD doing?

red geyser
gloomy grove
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morale very high

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crazy plot twist out here

warped quiver
shy pine
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We need a separate thread for tankie bloggers melting down

charred latch
# gloomy grove what MOD doing?

Maybe they've just been getting lost in the chatter but they don't seem to be posting as many videos of generals saying "go home"

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Morale is in negative progression

warped quiver
red geyser
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MOD asleep, quick ~post memes~ invade Rostov

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Ah T got it

charred latch
shy pine
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Anyone else been to this part of Rostov and totally tripping out right now?

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Note the tune they’re listening to: https://vxtwitter.com/petrkozlov/status/1672396931258101764?s=46&t=MDxryAqm1PZ6AocrV64Cbg

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“Counterintelligence” disco club a few hundreds meters from the FSB headquarters in the center of Moscow, while in the south of Russia PMC Wagner chief tries to commit a riot
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“Counterintelligence” disco club a few hundreds meters from the FSB headquarters in the center of Moscow, while in the south of Russia PMC Wagner chief tries to commit a riot

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red geyser
quasi night
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That’s the Ghanaian coffin meme music

ripe citrus
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Oh man

charred latch
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Any TLDRs of stuff that happened since prigo’s video?

red geyser
honest hemlock
weak sonnet
shy pine
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I heard a heli went down?

weak sonnet
gray surge
shy pine
honest hemlock
charred latch
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Is it safe to call Rostov captured by Wagner?

honest hemlock
honest hemlock
shy pine
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It's more of a 'sharing' situation

red geyser
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News will begin to pick up in about an hour

shy pine
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But the main point is that Wagner can no longer get repulsed without a maaaaassive mess.

honest hemlock
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Also such a bizarre video

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That woman with balloons out there

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People chilling taking pictures

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There was a thing earlier people spotted earlier about General Alekseyev and General Surovikin both giving statements but they were both in the same room - one cradling a gun https://vxtwitter.com/maxseddon/status/1672358796637663235?s=46&t=MDxryAqm1PZ6AocrV64Cbg

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Sergei Surovikin, hitherto the most Wagner-friendly general, calls on the group not to obey Prigozhin's orders. "The enemy is only waiting for our domestic political situation to get inflamed. Don't play into the enem…
max seddon (@maxseddon)

Sergei Surovikin, hitherto the most Wagner-friendly general, calls on the group not to obey Prigozhin's orders.

"The enemy is only waiting for our domestic political situation to get inflamed. Don't play into the enem…

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https://vxtwitter.com/maxseddon/status/1672360342884679681?s=46&t=MDxryAqm1PZ6AocrV64Cbg

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Vladimir Alekseyev, another once Wagner-friendly general: "This is a stab in the back of the country and the president. Only the president has the right to appoint the military leadership, and you are trying to attack…
max seddon (@maxseddon)

Vladimir Alekseyev, another once Wagner-friendly general:

"This is a stab in the back of the country and the president. Only the president has the right to appoint the military leadership, and you are trying to attack…

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red geyser
quasi night
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The patterns on the wall matched

red geyser
shy pine
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If I was dressed like that I wouldn't go within 50 meters of a Wagnerite

gloomy grove
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they're letting everyone film, so they're comfy with the information spreading

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empty drum
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Odds that Wagner is already near Voronezh

red geyser
quasi night
ripe citrus
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Hm…an hour ago ISW and critical threats assessed than the rebellion is unlikely to succeed https://twitter.com/thestudyofwar/status/1672418243536109568?s=46&t=3mSZZfPdcuE5qfP-shcO4w

ISW (@TheStudyofWar)

NEW: #Wagner Group financier Yevgeny #Prigozhin appears to have launched an armed rebellion on June 23 to force a leadership change within the #Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) which is unlikely to succeed.🧵 (1/13)
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red geyser
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https://t.me/news161ru/33662 We certainly understand who can cordon off administrative buildings in Rostov. We think so do you. But since the fighters on the ground are in no hurry to comment on the situation, and since there have been no official statements in the last couple of hours, we will refrain from making definitions and assessments.

We will simply record what is happening in Rostov-on-Don as much as possible.

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Мы, безусловно, понимаем, кто может оцеплять административные здания в Ростове. Думаем, как и вы. Но так как бойцы на месте не спешат комментировать ситуацию, а официальных заявлений в последние пару часов не было, воздержимся от определений и оценок.

Просто по мере возможности будем фиксировать происходящее в Ростове-на-Дону.

gloomy grove
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I don't think either side can "win" at this point

red geyser
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Various tg channels also write that the entire toll section of the M4 highway is closed. There is a convoy of military equipment, including tanks. A lorry is on fire on the highway. https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7046

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В различных тг каналах также пишут, что весь платный участок трассы М4 закрыт. На нём колонна военной техники, в том числе танки. На трассе горит фура.

gloomy grove
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just a matter of how sloppy it will get before it's over

honest hemlock
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Russia MoD will control it, but at what price?

shy pine
red geyser
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https://t.me/russianpatriot233/7047 Journalist Alina Lipp showed a column of equipment in Rostov. According to her, it's a Wagner

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Журналистка Алина Липп показала колонну техники в Ростове. По ее словам это вагнера

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empty drum
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Wonder where the leader/founder of Wagner is in all this. The nazi one. I remember him showing up briefly to make fun of Kadyrov but Prigozhin's definitely been the public face of Wanger

warped quiver
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wait, where is Lukashenko?!

fresh belfry
shy pine
warped quiver
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is lukashenko in turkey RN?

quasi night
ripe citrus
warped quiver
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is this Lukashenko?!

weak sonnet
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Speculation alert: is it safe to say that going for rostov seems to imply wagner is looking for negotiation chips?

red geyser
weak sonnet
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Since as ISW said its not a very tenable long term position if russia tires of it

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A mess sure

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But outside of its effects to the effort in ukraine not a detrimental effect (as an attempted coup would have) on the russian political system

red geyser
honest hemlock
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But well, I'm speculating, let's focus on what's on the ground rn

shy pine
honest hemlock
warped quiver
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so Wagner turns on MoD, Lukashenko bails to Turkey... anyone else doing math here? where are the steps between these two? there is a timeframe, a long timeframe and a long heads up

quasi night
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Do the Wagner group still control loads of Russia’s “assets” in Africa? (I watched the excellent documentary “the grab” a couple of months ago which had quite a bit about the Wagner group over there)

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gloomy grove
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red geyser
gloomy grove
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supporting what I said earlier: Readers noticed machine gunners near the headquarters of the Southern Military District. The entire block around the building is controlled by the recently arrived fighters, who have pushed back (or replaced) the military police crews on duty there. https://t.me/news161ru/33663

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Читатели заметили пулеметчиков у штаба Южного военного округа. Весь квартал вокруг здания контролируется прибывшими недавно бойцами, которые оттеснили (ну или заменили) дежурившие там экипажи военной полиции.

shy pine
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Sadly even if Prigozhin hangs their overseas operations will likely just rebrand under new management

honest hemlock
shy pine
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"All just a big misunderstanding."

gloomy grove
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