#Complicated political situation in Slovakia

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lunar sluice
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Since there seems to be an interest about it. Id like to share here little insight of current political situation in 🇸🇰. As it is currently very turbulent and unclear even for our citizens. Even more for foreginers.

The country currently seems to be supporting Ukraine in its defense against Russian aggression. But political scene (and citizens) of the country are under heavy hybrid warfare attack. Many of us fear, the next election (which can be rather early) might bring country to pro-russian partys hands.

I will try to keep it as much facts as possible and suppress my feeling, but it might be very hard for me, since I am born and living in Slovakia. 🙃

torn needle
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@lunar sluice looks good 🙂

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What is the context of this?

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It seems like it is ĽSNS? The neo-Nazi party.

lunar sluice
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Yup. Give me a sec 🙃

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I need to research their names and parties. Because the situation is not clear and there are many small pro-russian subjects

lunar sluice
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It was during discussion about USA - SLOVAKIA defending contract.

Those two guys with 🇸🇰 flag are members of far right part LSNS (who endorse Slovak president from nazi occupation era Josef Tiso).

The two with 🇺🇦 flag are members of SaS party. At the moment of incident it was government party. Now they are in oposition as they left gov. Than started vote to put down our government (and now trying to reestablish new government without Igor Matovic, who is subject of its own thread to be made).

torn needle
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Ah

lunar sluice
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Even the fall of 🇸🇰 government is not related to Ukraine support.

It started after SMER lost elections in 2020 and theirs rule ended after 12 years (because of Jan and Martina murder).

Igor Matovic, highly populist and christian, owner of OLANO party (owner, because its not real party, they have no internal structure, he rules it), won elections.
He joined forces with SME RODINA party, of billionare Boris Kollar, owner of ALOT of assets in Slovakia (rumored to have deep connections to Slovak mafia).

3rd partvof new gov was SaS of Richard Sulik, who claims to be libertarian and deep economist. In fact, he is libertarian only in economics, his opinions on everything else are very controversial. He even claims it himself, saying he has no emotions or empathy, je only decides by numbers (to his defense, hes only interested in economic questions and not trying to solve problems in other fields).

4th party was ZA LUDI of former president Andrej Kiska. Who left the party shortly after elections and the party members are being slowly absorbed by other parties.

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After new gov was formed, Matovic and Sulik started to fight. Which resulted in removing Igor Matovic as PM and making him Ministry of Finance, that was March 2021. He basically switched positions with Edurad Heger, who moved from Ministrybof Finances to PM. Rest of the gov stayed pretty much same.

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Igor Matovic was unable to bring up national budget which would Richard Sulik consider acceptable, and that lead to SaS leaving government 31.8.2021. Which means that goverment has lost majority in pairlament.

About the budget, there was alot of dpending and it was very unclear where those money will come from. Deeply increasing dept.

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After weeks of Matovics party personal attacks on Richard Sulik, SaS initiated confidence vote of the government, which did not passed. Pairlament expressed it does not trust current gov and president had to put them into resignation.

After days, SaS and Eduard Heger negotiated that Igor Matovic will end as Ministrybof Finance, while approving changes to national budget (one of the changes is spending limits).

Now both OLANO and SaS claim they dont want to end current gov (as a result of pirlament expressing untrust in it). And they even claim intention of SaS returning to gov.

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The problem is, chaotic rule of OLANO and especially constant fighting of Igor Matovic and Richard Sulik, bring most of the citizens to be pretty much feed up with current gov (pool says only 18% of citizens support Igor Matovic, lowest of all relevant politicans).

And that means, the next elections can bring back to power former PM Robert Fico, who has gone hardcore pro-russian and anti-EU since his fall in 2020.

While pools seems to be winning his former puppet PM Peter Pellegrini with his HLAS party (full of former Fico's people), Fico's SMER is expected to be 2nd, with far-right "conservative" REPUBLIKA party, having coalition with them and forming next Slovak Government.

Both SMER and REPUBLICA claims to be heavily anti-system, pro-russia and anti-EU. While HLAS claims to be "neutral", going to rule with "anybody interested".

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Biggest issue is that democratic forces are heavily shattered, there is 6+ parties at the edge of entering pairlament (5%), while each of them claiming they are the hero who will save 🇸🇰. Unable to consolidate and win next elections.

This is the enviroment, in which 🇸🇰 is under the danger of premature elections (as the regular ones should be in 2024).

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The fact is, most of the nation is democratic, pro-EU, pro-West and support 🇺🇦 in its effort to defend itself. But there is currently no relevant political party ro satisfy them. The pools do not show increasing % of SMER, HLAS or far fight. They are only transfering theirs electorate from one party to other. Pro-democratic voters are not moving to them, but expressing they will not vote for anybody instead, as they have noone to represent theirs opinion.

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This is and introduction to current political situation in 🇸🇰. I will update this thread with current events.

lunar sluice
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There are no anti UA support demonstrations in Slovakia. The video he posted is from 2018, when Slovakia was protesting against Robert Fico's government after assasination of journalist Jan and his girlfriend Martina.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3639989-russian-propagandist-fakes-was-there-a-protest-rally-in-slovakia-against-arms-supplies-to-ukraine.html

A video of a protest rally in Bratislava, filmed during the coronavirus pandemic two years ago, has been passed off as fresh — Ukrinform.

lunar sluice
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🇸🇰 president's Zuzana Caputova announcement of removing Igor Matovic as a member of government, giving responsibility for his Ministy of Finsnce to current PMs hands Eduard Heger. (Igor Matovuc is leader of OLANO, "winner of 2020 elections", currently most unpopular politican in 🇸🇰).

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmgofFTKBW0/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

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Both SaS and Eduard Heger claim this as the end of political crisis in 🇸🇰 (which officially or unoficially lasted for entire 2022).

But the truth is, that SMER and far-right REPUBLIKA enforced referendum to end current government rule prematurely.

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The referendum will be in January 2023 and while most of the citizens are really annoyed with current government and want to end it. They dont want the return of SMER either.

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Referendum itself is highly speculative. Many analytics say, SMER does not really want it to happen, since despite having many lawyers (while Robert Fico is not only lawyer himself, but he was also candidate for constitutional court judge too), the questions were reformulated many times because they were very vaguely formulated or in conflict with Slovak constitution.

Also even if the referendum passed, end of they current government is highly questionable, as the referendum question asks, if people want to "add possibility to end government rule prematurely into constitution", not specificaly saying that this current government should end right now.

So this referendum, while being taken very seriously by alot of politicans and citizens, can be only elections campaign of former PM Robert Fico and his SMER party.

lunar sluice
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Since I still have time until things will start happening agsin after holidays, lets look at what I mean by "pro-EU and pro-WEST voters have currently no party to pick".

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This is the result of elections in 2020. I am not going to describe it much, since as it is "good habit" in Slovakia, alot of parties have shattered after elections or "died" and changed the power distribution.

Important here is, OLANO, won the elections unprepated, they are one man party and did not have enough people to fill all its spots.
PS-Spolu candidated as coalition (so they needed 7% to get in, instead of 5% for single party). They acted like they are going to win during campaign but did not get into pairlament with 6,98%.

In next post, I will show current state of power distribution and will try to cover each party little bit.

torn needle
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What is the general European party affiliation?

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Mostly ECR, I imagine?

lunar sluice
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I think they are all in different parties. SMER are with "social democrats" (not sure about the name). SaS is with ECR, OLANO is European Peoples Party.

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LSNS is far right as you already know and SME RODINA is quite fresh, I dont think they are in Europairlament

torn needle
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SME Rodina have affiliated with Identity and Democracy, hmm.

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So all round a quite right-wing parliament.

lunar sluice
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But europairlament means nothing in Slovakia. People do not care about it, and most of them wouldnt be able to name one euro party.

For example SMER has long history of being in conflict with its euro party for violating theirs value setup. And they dont seem to care about it even a little.

torn needle
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Ah

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A couple months ago

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A guy committed a mass shooting at a LGBT bar

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This moron.

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Has that had political effects?

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Apparently he is the son of a far-right party candidate?

lunar sluice
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Yes. But the party of the candidate is not significant. Its party of Vladimir Meciar ex-ministry of justice and well known conspirator Stefan Harabin. He went completely mad into conspiracy theories, far right, anti-covid, etc after his fall in justice administration. His party is at about 1% or so, completely insignificant.

torn needle
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lunar sluice
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However, the murder have had strong impact on 🇸🇰 society. Most politicans failed to express strong opinion against LGBTI opression. Good example is PM Eduard Heger who expressed strong pro-LGBTI statement in foreigin media (and english status on twitter), but very very vague statement in Slovak version. Where he did not even mentioned the LGBTI being motive of the murder.

His party leader Matovic even released status on Facebook: "I AM HETERO".

And they keep pushing nareative of "liberal putsch", how religious people in Slovakia are being opressed by liberals (they are not).

undone spear
lunar sluice
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They are basically trying to blind peoples eyes with this "liberals gonna steal your kids n make them gay" narrative, to hide their incompetence. As they have been elected as "anti-corruption" government, but failed to do a single systematic anti-corruption change in 2 years.

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undone spear
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Like a decent pro-humanity pro-democracy party

lunar sluice
# undone spear Is there any social democratic/Christian Democrat/liberal Democrat/green party? ...

That was meant to be the current gov. But they burned most of the hopes during this electorate.

OLANO as christian/conservatives.
SaS as liberals.

Neither of them is what they claims to be.

There are new ones, but those are mostly unknown names, new faces and people dont trust them. In Slovakia there is more than 50 political parties and the pro-democratic parties keep shattering into smaller and smaller pieces. Everybody wants to be the leader who will save the nation.

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I will try to cover that tomorrow with insight of current force disposition in pairlament. Its getting late here (2am).

undone spear
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# undone spear Why aren't they what they claim to be?

OLANO is meant to be the conservatives. But in fact, they are party of one man (Igor Matovic), without any internal structures. He invited few christian sects into his gov. Their agenda is mostly abortions, anti-liberalism, religious freedom (immunity to catholic priests), anti imigrants, etc.

SaS is meant to be liberals (their name literally means Freedom and Solidarity), BUT their leader Richard Sulik is strongly anti-mighrants, free market, lower the gov support to ppl etc. I mean, his macro economic changes are good (tax politics, spending limits, etc). But when he starts to speak about humanity values, he drifts into racist stuff, some might event find it slightly nazi..not sure if you know what I mean.

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Feel free to ask more, I will answer morning 🙃

undone spear
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No wonder people dislike them

lunar sluice
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There are better parties, but those have no access to pairlament currently.

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For the context, last elections, in 2020 meant to be revolutionary. Those have been basically right after murder of journalist Jan and his girlfriend Martina.

As it was clear 12 years of Robert Fico's rule is going to end after huge protests, society not only expected but demanded change in corrupt system. So called "democratic right" not only won elections but they managed to get "constitutional majority", which means, they have had enough votes to change constitution themselves.

But soon after elections, it was clear no major changes will happen. Igor Matovic keept trying to lead the country like one of his companies, or his party. He keeps bringing up ridiculous, miraculous ideas how to solve every problem he focus on. If anybody dare to opose him, he started to publicly shame darer and yell that its all to support return of Robert Fico and his mafia.

That means constant fight between Matovic and Sulik and resulted into first fall of this government in 2021, when all happened was that Matovic and his ministry of finance switched positions. Now Heger is PM and Matovic ministry of finance. However Heger is merely a pupped of his OLANO party leader and does not dare to opose him even slightly.

Constant fighting between Matovic and Sulik continue and nation is already fed up with "democratinc right". Voters say, while Ficos rule was mafia state, it was still better than this rule of mad Matovic, many believing he is mentally ill.

Many voters dont want to risk voting for new unknown party just to find out there will be another crazy Matovic and Sulik, inclining to vote for Ficos SMER or his for puppet pellegrini and his HLAS party full of ex-SMER politicans. "They have been mafia state but at least it was not chaos and madness".

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People say, if Matovic wanted the return of Fico, he would not do it differently.

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Now lets look at current power transposition in 🇸🇰 pairlament and what I mean by "no alternative for democratic middle class citizens".

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As picture above shows, those are currently significant parties in Slovakia.

OLANO - winner of the elections. It is party of one man, Igor Matovic, with no internal or regional structures. They are basically random "ordinary" people with no bonds between them. Matovuc claims to give a chance to enter politics to anybody who want to get into pairlament but dont want to enter "ordinary" party. From outside it seems to be full of sportsmen, celebrities and so on. However under the hood it is secret coallition of different catholic sub-churches some say sects. They claimed and acted to be anti-corruption party before 2020 elections but have heavily populistic agenda, anti-migrants, anti-LGBTI, anti-liberalist after.

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SMER - party of Robert Fico. So called social democrats. They have ruled Slovakia for 12 years until 2020. They are taken responsible for high corruption and state mafia in 🇸🇰. Their agenda is leftist, focused on lowest income citizens while hiding and protecting theirs oligarchs. After murder of Jan and Martina in 2018 they have been believed politicslly dead but Robert Fico is excellent rhetor and (with huge help of current incompetent gov) managed to make comeback.

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HLAS - party created by former PM Peter Pellegrini, by detaching from SMER. He has inherited agenda and most of his party members from SMER shortly after 2020 elections. Most likely because he was under impression that SMER is dead party (he was not the only one thinking that).

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SME RODINA - party of millionare Boris Kollar, owner of many big assets in Slovakia, for example he owns few sky resorts, radio station, etc. His party is similar to OLANO (but its not descendant of OLANO, more like clone). Unclear or non-existent internal structure, party full of celebrities instead of politics. His agenda is highly populistic, anti-migrants, conservatives, etc. He is famous lover, openly having 12 children with 11 women and just like that he claims to be conservative fighter for "traditional family". Big forces in his party are: catholic activist Milan Krajniak (he calls himself "the last crusader") and Pcolinsky family who are rumored to be mafia family in east of Slovakia. Boris Kollar is also known for connections with mafia, famous is his photo from 90's with bosses of the mafia at that time from vacation in Florida (he claims it was coincidence he meet them there), he was also welcoming Putins Night wolves in Bratislava. Many of Boris's "business partners" were killed by mafia during wild west time period of Slovakias privatization in 90's while he is still alive and one of the richest.

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LSNS - political party of long term extremist Marian Kotleba. Openly praising president of Slovak facist president Jozef Tiso. Party was forcibly disbanded in past by court, but they formed new one. Classic far-right agenda, anti-EU, anti-NATO, pro-russian. Openly attacking: gipsy community, muslims, sexual and other minorities etc..I think you know exactly what I mean. They use same double cross symbol as facist Slovak state paramilitary forces "Hlinkove gardy". Very agressive rhetorics. They even form militias to "protect majority population from gipsy minority".

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SAS - so called liberals. Party of Richard Sulik, successful businessman who is interested mostly in economy questions and healthy market enviroment. However he is also notorious for connections with controversial businessman Marian Kocner currently in jail for connections with Jan and Martina murder. His humanitarian values driftvto far right, he himself stated that he has no emotions and decide only by numbers. Rest of the "liberal agenda" of the party like LGBTI rights, marihuana legalisation, etc is represented only formally, but there are no real steps made by tge party to enforce them.

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PS (Progresivne Slovensko) - party founded by tech milionare Michal Truban. They have had high success in last euro-elections as a newly founded subject and many (including themselves) believed they will win elections in 2020 and form new government and new democratic coallition. However Michal Truban was not able to manage well campaign against him and the fact that they officially admitted coallition with SPOLU (which raised their treshold from 5% to 7%) put them out of pairlament. They however gained some representatives in pairlament after elections. Party is trying to have internal democratic structure and processes and not to be one man party as most of Slovak parties. However they are labelled as commies and "liberals who will steal your kids n sell them to gays" and Slovak highly conservative public does not accepts them very well. They are closest to normal party as we have in Slovakia, but they struggle in finding charismatic leader which is big disadvantage in Slovakia. Nobody reads agenda here, elections are decides by best slogan and rhetorics. Also churches push narrative that progressive means evil. Their activities in euro pairlament are mostly eco oriented, but Slovakua has more pressing troubles: low trust in gov, low trust in police and law enforcement, collapsing healthcare, collapsing education.

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REPUBLIKA - another party that got into pairlament by shattering of the bigger party. Republika was founded by former LSNS vice-presidents Mazurek and Uhrik. They are believed to be smarter and more extremist than LSNS leader Marian Kotleba. After they failed to claim power in LSNS, they have formed REPUBLIKA, which has same agenda but is not so openly far-right. However they still affiliate to facist president Tiso and the name Republika is link to first CzechoSlovak republic. Uhrik is famous for his answer to question, if he believes Holocaust happened, where he said "I am not a historican, I dont know". And Mazurek is famous for attacking muslim family with infant in stroller. They are heavily pro-russian, anti-EU and anti-NATO, currently forming coallition with Ficos and his SMER.

undone spear
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So what we have here really is OLANO, a private company that presents itself as a party and is from extremely questionable origin and has a vague structure

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And SMER, which is a Kremlinphile Oligarchs party

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and a whole lot of other toxic waste parties

undone spear
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Hardly

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None of them has "charismatic leader" that could attract significant portion of voters

spice sluice
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"he himself stated that he has no emotions and decide only by numbers"

Besides the fact this is mega-cringe and he's only lying to himself by saying that, this is screaming to me that he has the social skills of barbed wire

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Btw, I'm not saying much on this thread but I'm reading it all, very appreciated the whole effort you're putting discoursechef

undone spear
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Nobody votes by policies in Slovakia. Elections are decided by rhetorics and slogans.

lunar sluice
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All party descriptions finished.

undone spear
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No?

lunar sluice
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I dont understand the question

undone spear
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For example: "our policy is to raise the minimum wage"

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There are no people look at that and vote because of it?

lunar sluice
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Yes and no. Almost noone knows what real, formal policies of theirs party is. People dont read it. They believe what leaders say in the TV discusdions their policies are (often not matching).

spice sluice
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People voting for policies is rare overall (and I mean this worldwide, not specific to Slovakia), politics are almost (if not fully) entirely emotional, with people supporting leaders/parties like they would with a sports team

lunar sluice
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Yes, thats right for Slovakia too

undone spear
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Matovic have had big, long term campaign against Fico. Calling him mafia, exposing oligarch, organizing demonstrations. He even was in France to visit one of Ficos oligarchs msnsion.

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I mean, the need for anti-corruption gov is pretty clear here, but the problem is, none of the parties want to change the system. They all promise to make thing better by replacing "theirs people" with "ours people", not sure if u understand me.

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I think its more of a jealously than fairness

undone spear
lunar sluice
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"He is stealing and gets rich, why I am not?". But its getting into my subjective view, that wasnt my goal

undone spear
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Is it near Orban?

lunar sluice
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Well, thats very unclear. They adorse Orban and his "conservative" politics. But at the same time sending weapons to Ukraine. Eduard Heger as PM was in Kyiiv, but Matovic during pandemics bought and defended Sputnik vaccine.

They really are not one subject. Its more of a buch of individual politics with different interests under one label. Like a patchwork

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Jaroslav Nad, our ministry of defense, is sending weapons and strong pro-USA and pro-Ukraine statements, while other big names of OLANO are defending Orban

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BUT, I do not think (or hope) that OLANO will be significant power after next elections.

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As I said, Matovic is most unpopular politic in 🇸🇰 where more than 80% of population dislikes him

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Bigger problem is, as you can see if you go through my partys description, that there is no real power which is clearly pro-west

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And new gov can be made by Kremlins

undone spear
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And the Kremlinphiles are being imagined as a "better alternative" to some people, that's worse

lunar sluice
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Yes

undone spear
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How does Slovakia fight disinformation?

lunar sluice
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Its not

undone spear
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Fuck

lunar sluice
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There are no real measurments to fight disinfo. In fact, many of govs use disinfo webs as theirs spreading network. OLANO, SME RODINA, SMER, HLAS, both nazi LSNS and REPUBLIKA too. They all feed on disinfo scene

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Most anti-disinfo scene is either volunteers or minor activities. Police has some activiries but very minor

undone spear
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Or that democratic parties have a hard time winning some attention

lunar sluice
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There are some TV spots to fight dissinfo. But the secret agency, army and even police is full of Kremlin agents and noone does thing about it.

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Russian consul in Slovskia is spreading lies and nobody from gov is standing up against it

spice sluice
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I'm honestly surprised how Slovakia has actually been sending help to Ukraine, including military, and been one of the delivery channels of NATO instead of pulling a Hungary

lunar sluice
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Maybe not army so much, s8nce Nad is pro-west ministry. But secret agency is in hands of SME RODINA, whos leader was welcoming night wolves on their European trip

lunar sluice
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Its mostly work of the Ministry of defense Jaroslav Nad who has strong pro-west stance

spice sluice
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Same situation here in Spain, our MoD Margarita Robles has been the main push for military aid towards Ukraine, as the smaller of the two coalition members in the government (yet very vocal) is very much a group of tankies who blame NATO for the war

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At least the public sentiment is very much more in favour of supporting Ukraine, although the idea of military support is something that can understandably be hard to digest for many

lunar sluice
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This graph show well, how deeply under propaganda attack Slovakia really is.

undone spear
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Wow

limber cedar
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Yikes!

lunar sluice
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And, here is most recent survey

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Note that the surveys in Slovakia are not very precise. There are like 3 agencies and they often report very different results of surveys.

lunar sluice
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Another "big name" in Slovak democratic side, core member of SaS and member of euro-pairlament Lucia Duris-Nicholsonova announced yesterday that she is going to create new political party, to save 🇸🇰.

https://spravy.pravda.sk/domace/clanok/653399-duris-nicholsonova-pre-pravdu-zakladam-stranu-a-viem-sa-prisposobit-aj-predcasnych-volbam/

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Also current PM , Eduard Heger announced that he is "considering" to create new party without Igor Matovic.

https://dennikn.sk/3186846/heger-uvazuje-o-vlastnej-strane-bez-matovica-odchod-z-olano-zatial-neoznamil/

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Rozdielne predstavy o politike medzi predsedom OĽaNO Igorom Matovičom a podpredsedom hnutia a zároveň odvolaným premiérom Eduardom Hegerom môžu vyústiť do Hegerovho odchodu z OĽaNO. Zatiaľ takýto krok neohlásil. Matovič s Hegerom v utorok popoludní vystúpili na poslaneckom klube OĽaNO. Premiér tam hovoril o vlastnej vízii politiky, ktorá by ciel...

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The citizens of 🇸🇰 dont even bother to comment it anymore. Everyone with even a small ambitions seems to have his own party at this moment.

spice sluice
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Question: are the Czech elections influential into Slovak politics?

lunar sluice
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From the gov perspective, maybe yes. But their president is very similar to ours, mostly representative function with not much executive power. So it has no big impact.

For most 🇸🇰 citizens it is like a good show.

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Also, not sure if you noticed, it was probably discussed internationally but.

At the beginning of the year, Slovakia was celebrating 30. years since established. There was big gala evening with representatives from all neighbour country. Presidents of Czechia, Austria, Poland have come. Even Ukraine vicePM have come. But Hungary did not sent anybody. Their president was invited but rejected to come.

spice sluice
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#JustViktorOrbánThings

undone spear
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They are pro-EU

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The problem is they are even more shattering pro-EU parties

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We need to put tge pieces together to form one party with big%. Not many small ones

undone spear
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That is the million follar question 🙃

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And all democratic voters in 🇸🇰 wish they would

undone spear
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By voters I mean the people, citizens who vote 🙃

spice sluice
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Infighting is the more likely reason

"We can go in a coalition and I will be the candidate!", said every candidate at the same time

lunar sluice
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Yes, thats it in most cases

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Everybody wants to be the leader

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Its typical for 🇸🇰 that parties are bound to leaders. If leaders ☆ stops to shine, party will die.

I dont remember party leader being replaced and party moving forward like it is in UK or US. Thats not how it works here. Dunno why

lunar sluice
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PM Eduard Heger today announced, that he will be not able to create new government, because SaS does not want to sign it.

He announced earlier (during Christmas I think) that he is trying to find 76 signatures of representatives to form new gov. However many lawyers arguend it is not possible, as his government was ended when pairlament did not support him.

Anyway, the possibility of premature elections in 🇸🇰 happening this year is getting higher. (September is being talked about).

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President of 🇸🇰 Zuzana Caputova yesterday, for the first time said, she will appoint bureaucratic government if the current pro-democratic coallition will be unable to make agreement until end of January.

https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3197782/

So far, she was mentioning only "constitutional steps".

Denník N

…povedala, že vymenuje úradnícku vládu, ak sa strany do konca januára nedohodnú na predčasných voľbách. Doteraz hovorila len o postupe v rámci „ústavných kompetencií“.

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Just a note from citizen:

Calling them "pro-democratig" can be little bit too much, since many citizens see 2 biggest parties differently:
SME RODINA - mafia business party
OLANO - unguided missile, they have pro west ministry of defense Jaroslav Nad on one side, but also a leader Igor Matovic who is capable of praising Orban and buying Sputnik vaccine from Russia.

lunar sluice
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Current government is heavily criticized for the date of early ellections. They want to set it for September, but that would mean, current gov will be there for almost 300 more days since they have lost trust of pairlament.

While oppozition does not like it naturally. Alot of democratic pro-west citizens does not like it either, discouraging them even more in following politics.

Here is small article about how long from distrust to early election it took before in 🇸🇰 :

https://twitter.com/filip_filipes/status/1615447331574276098?t=vQQyYbx5xa8Zdt5DbEIegg&s=19

Počet dní medzi pádom vlády a predčasnými voľbami:
Pád VM: 11.3.1994
Voľby: 30.9.1994
203 dní

Pád IR: 11.10.2021
voľby: 10.3.2012
151 dní

Odchod kdh: 7.2.2006
voľby: 17.6.2006
130 dní

Priemer: 161 dní

Pád vlády EH: 15.12.2022
170-190 dní (jún)
261-288 dní (september)

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Left button is "Support SMER (Robert Fico)", right button is "Support Igor Matovic (OLANO)"

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Igor Matovic already posted on his Facebook that if this referendum is unsuccessful (which most likely will be), it means people want his government (or his OLANOs gov).

Which is not true. People dont want either one 🙃

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Yeah but that's just typical politics, especially when you try to polarise into us and them

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It would need at least 50% attendance to pass

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It needs to be said that even if the referendum did not pass, the attendance is pretty alarming.

With more than 1 100 000 anti-system votes (since it was seens as SMER referendum by society) it will be very hard for democratic parties to beat that.

OLANO won last elections with 25% which is considered very high result in 🇸🇰
https://volby.statistics.sk/nrsr/nrsr2020/sk/data02.html

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Many analytics say it was Rober Fico's preference survey, and the "more advanced" politic analysts see it as big warning. SMER has almost 30% and pro-democratic parties are in ruins.

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Robert Fico's SMER and his far-right friend from REPUBLIKA were mobilising theirs voters. While all pro-west and democratic parties and leaders were against it.

  • it really did not matter as there will be early elections anyway. So its believed that only core of SMER and REPUBLIKA voters went to referendum.
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From what I see based on machine translation of that tweet, it's pretty much political hardball on the results of the referendum?

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The referendum have had literally no campaign. Only Facebook mobilization of SMER and far-right voters + few local actions in some districts. But nothing on country scale.

Still, number of votes, for "Yes" is 1 100 000.
If we project those 1 100 000 votes into average elections attendance in Slovakia, SMER and far-right would get about 40% in next elections. (OLANO won with 27% in 2020 and it was considered "very strong manadate").

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Not sure what "hardball" means 😇
I mean, I can translate it, but it makes no sense to me 😄

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Basically they are doing what they can, even some dirty gaming, for their own political goals

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Thats not what bothers me. The other side of the spectrum is doing absolutely nothing, thats what bothers me.

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Seems like former 🇸🇰 PM, Mikulas Dzurinda is trying to save pro-west side of Slovak political spectrum.

I am not saying it is a bad thing. He is the one who brought us to EU and NATO after years of isolation during Vladimir Meciar "regime".

But he is also controversial personality, connected to many scandals, including Gorila. (So I am not sure how he will be accepted).

However, he is very good in politics game: negotiations, compromises, dialogues, rhetorics. All of that most of current pro-west party leaders in 🇸🇰 lack.

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"will be connecting program wise close parties, mostly based on European EPP"

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The party "SPOLU" changed its nsme to "Blue coallition".

The "blue" was color of Mikulas Dzurinda party SDKU, they have had blue logo, everything blue and even election slogan and song "Blue is good".

So the connection is pretty obvious for 🇸🇰 citizens.

But the question is, if they are willing to trust in Mikulas Dzurinda again.

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Ex-PM Mikulas Dzurinda officially introduced his new party, "Modra koalicia".

https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3211998/

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Expremiér Mikuláš Dzurinda predstavil nový politický projekt – Modrú koalíciu. Ide podľa neho o zlúčenie jeho pripravovanej strany Modrí – Európska ľudová strana a strany Spolu. Dzurinda tiež povedal, že rokuje s KDH, ale rozhovory uzavreté nie sú. Podľa Dzurindu začínajú s budovaním regionálnych štruktúr a vyzval najmä mladých ľudí, aby do jeho...

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Reactions are very mixed, there are some bad names there and liberal spectrum of citizens does not like theirs intention to merge also with Christian party KDH. But 🇸🇰 as a country is deeply christian, so it could work, as christisn part of pro-west spectrum does like this idea.

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The good thing I see is, they are trying to build local, regional structures of the party and not to be another one man show.

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🇸🇰 PM Eduard Heger announced Slovakia is about to start discussion about sending ours Mig to Ukraine.

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Robert Fico announced, if he won the deal will get cancelled. Also confirmed this will benone of the topics of election campaign.

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Ficos "brother" party, far-right Republika already started theirs dirty capaign.

Billboards saying "Heger would send your sons to war!" have already appeared..

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# lunar sluice Robert Fico announced, if he won the deal will get cancelled. Also confirmed thi...

Slovakia is willing to deliver grounded Soviet-made jets to Ukraine, as per acting PM Eduard Heger, though members within his gov't, and opposition parties leading the polls ahead of September’s snap elections, doubt his enthusiasm.

https://t.co/HhBI78iGWZ

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This is more of a curiosity but still, can't resist putting it here..

Ex-PM and leader of OLANO, strongest party in current pairlament Igor Matovic has today suggested new law to be processed on pairlament:

The law says, every citizen who will give its vote in upcoming elections should receive 500€ from the state.

https://twitter.com/fule_lukas/status/1625491105331699713?t=y95FuecarelCBLL364MXag&s=19

Approximate cost of this law is 1 500 000 000 € if the electoral participation will be same as previous elections.

The result is of course storm in the media..

Igor Matovič predložil do parlamentu návrh zákona, aby voliči za účasť na parlamentných voľbách dostali odmenu 500 eur. A stáť by to mohlo:

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Just to compare:

Minimal wage in Slovakia is 646€
Average wage is 1295€

So those 500€ is VERY GOOD money.

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No condition. Just come to elections and vote. You get 500€

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But, ofc it will be associated with his person or OLANO in the head of many voters.

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Exactly.

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In my honest opinion. Thats buying of the votes on the top government level.

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Whats even worse. The leader of SME RODINA(second bigest party in pairlament), Boris Kollar said that it is actually a good idea.

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So there is a chance it can pass

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President of 🇸🇰 Zuzana Caputova did a press release as a reaction to Igor Matovic's 500€ for voting and other similar crazy ideas he was releasing lately.

President said that elections in September are too late and requested elections to be earlier (other date that pairlament discussed and was refuses was June elections). She said that "the situation is unbearable".

Source:
https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3241990?ref=mnt.sk

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Prezidentka žiada skorší ako septembrový termín predčasných volieb vzhľadom na súčasnú politickú situáciu. Zuzana Čaputová ju opísala ako „charakterizovanú legislatívnou parlamentnou smršťou, ohrozujúcou ústavné princípy a verejné financie“.Pre krajinu je podľa nej takáto situácia neúnosná. „Dianie v parlamente pripomína skôr chaos než zodpovedn...

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Leader of SAS Richard Sulik (the party that was in coalition, thzn left to distrust coalition, than wanted to make new coalition after parlament voted to distrust gov) said, that President can have ealier (June) elections. She just need to dismiss current government and put up administration government.

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https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3244054?ref=mnt.sk

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…termín volieb je „v rukách prezidentky“. „Stačí, ak vymenuje úradnícku vládu, a prakticky celý parlament vrátane SaS odsúhlasí predčasné voľby na jún,“ uviedol v stanovisku predseda SaS. „Súhlasili sme s kompromisným riešením, ktorým bola dohoda na septembrovom termíne volieb. S tým súhlasila aj pani prezidentka. Opakovane sme vraveli, že budem...

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‼️ Slovak Foreign Minister Rastislav Kačer told Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban to "Go f@ck yourself." And in Russian.

Rastislav Kacher argues that military aid to Ukraine is morally correct since the Russians have invaded the country and are killing Ukrainians.

🇺🇦 Donbas…

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This is the part:

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Translation:

For collaborants of Putin and especially ours in Carpathian basin and Felvidek (historical name of Slovakia in Great Hungar empire), for everyone, who want peace in cost of Ukraine destruction I have only one message: "Idi na chuj!" (in azbuka).

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Needs to be said, Kacer was Slovak ambassador in Hungary for many years. He speaks Hungarian fluently. He is almost unknown for Slovak public, he was not publicly active before he got Ministry of Foreigin affair post.

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Also, Hungary and Slovakia have "strange" relationship. Its not brotherhood like with Czech.
Its not neutral like with Poland and Austria.

Since divide of CzechoSlovakia, there allways have been strong anti-Hungarian but also pro-Hungarian movements in 🇸🇰 politics.

Famous is politician Jan Slota, leader of nationalist SNS during Meciar regime and his anti-hungary attitude, who said: "we will jump into tanks and destroy Budapest".

There are also Hungary nationalists from SMK, with similar attitude but opposite direction.

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Needs to be said, south parts of 🇸🇰, where Hungary minority is living, does not get that much of an investment in infrastructure as North part (mainly because all major cities are on the North route). South regions are less developed historically, but (and maybe because of that) there was strong pro-Hungarian feeling in those regions historically. Many of people living there speak Hungarian fluent but very weak Slovak (Hungarian is not official language in Slovakia).

There was a scandal few years ago, where 🇸🇰 media pointed out, about director of Slovnaft plant, mr.Villagi(Hungarian name). He was using alot of money coming from Hungary, with unclear origing, to buy real estate in south regions of 🇸🇰.

Some people even say, that 🇸🇰 south is owned by Orban. It was serious enough, that it was being resolved diplomatic way. Probably mr.Kacer was involved as he was ambassador in Budapest at that time.

With eise of Orban, his strong anti-EU attitude and UA war. Many

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Telling "idi nahuy" to Orbán is something I'd do myself if I had the chance, so I may have grown a liking for your MoFA dogekek

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In a more serious note, for what I know Orbán's influence (and disinfo netowrks) is quite strong in the Hungarian speaking parts of Slovakia and Ukraine

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Rather undiplomatic but very tempting tondo.

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The truth is. Hungarian speaking part of Slovskua really is underdeveloped and our politicscoften pay very little attention to them.

But thats the same with other "borderlands". The issue is most likely election law in 🇸🇰

Where there are no constituences. So no local politics involved. Only "global". One list of candidates for whole country for pairlament. Which often results in most of the pairlament being capital city fucused.

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Yup, I'm very aware of the lack of development on those areas. A combination of being a "borderland" and that they're people from a very different ethnicity. Makes them very easy to be picked up by populists, and this happens to be Orbán

It's a similar situation in the Ukrainian Transcarpathia for what I know too

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I did not have much time to update it here..but..

The "Modra Koalicia", project of former PM Mikulas Dzurinda (the one who got 🇸🇰 into EU and NATO after Meciars dark regime). Leader of party SPOLU, which was to be core of "Modra koalicia" announced that Dzurinda is not joining them and the party will change name again. That means, this new Dzurindas project broke up before it even got together. Instead, current PM Eduard Heger and Defense ministry Jaroslav Nad with some more ex-OLANO(the "pro democratic" fraction) are joining SPOLU.

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Ministry of Healthcare, Lengvarsky, resignated. I dont know the details, however president of 🇸🇰 Zuzana Caputovas reaction was, that if there will be "no improvements in healthcare resort", she will appoint administrative government.

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Thats about it. Pro-democratic side of spectrum continue to decay while left and brown crap is getting stronger.

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Current PM Eduard Heger announced that he is leaving his party OLANO.

Which is very interesting, as he is reportedly in talks about joining with SPOLU, party that is not in parilament. This end in situation, when the PM will be from a non parilament party.
He basically cannot be replaced, since gov is in demission, no mnistry can be appointed. They can only be removed from their posts.

https://www.ta3.com/clanok/260753/heger-ohlasil-odchod-z-oano-mam-vlastnu-viziu-o-politike-dodal

TA3

Dočasne poverený premiér Eduard Heger oznámil odchod z hnutia OĽANO. Na sociálnej sieti napísal, že má vlastnú víziu o politike.

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Current PM Eduard Heger announced today his new party "DEMOKRATI".

The party has one member of Pairlament (Miroslav Kollar - the ex-leader of SPOLU who was about to create new party with Mikulas Dzurinda, but retreated last week).

It also has 4 ministers (Kacer - Foreigin affairs, Mikulec - police, Hirman - economy, Budaj - enviroment). + another 3 government posts.

https://spravy.pravda.sk/domace/clanok/659417-heger-povedie-do-volieb-novu-stranu-tajny-snem-ho-zvolil-za-lidra-zrejme-ziskal-aj-kacera-aj-hirmana/

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Leader of OLANO Igor Matovic, said, it was his idea to make Eduard Hegers party. Which Heger reacted that it is his idea and idea of people "behind him".

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Needs to say, Heger is not taken very "leadery" by policical critics. He was PM a long time and wasnt able to stand his ground against his toxic part leader Matovic.

Many of the people see him as weak and full of empty phrases with nothing done.

But there is another group of citizens sho see him as "calm guy who csn bring democratic parties together. But I havent seen any political anslyst say it. Its mostly opinion of naive citizens.

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Heger also announced he will be not working with SMER, HLAS, MODRI (Dzurinda), or PS. He basically said his only relevant partner after elections is OLANO, which was not taken very well by most political critics.

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Ministry Karas, who is proposing the law to put directors of hospitals into jail for being understaffed says, that the law is bad he he is not going to vote for it. Also called rest of the pairlament to reject the law he is proposing.

https://m.topky.sk/cl/10/2482583/Zilinka--lekari-aj-politici--Zamer-zatvarat-sefov-nemocnic-je-pod-palbou-kritiky--Nechce-ho-ani-Karas

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And that is sbout everything you need to know about current 🇸🇰 government.

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Prime minister Heger today in interview said: "We do not need pairlament approval to send retired tech (MiGs) to Ukraine." When host aked him about "representants investigation on airbase Sliac, organized by ex-PM Fico", his answer was: "They sure can, if they will be fast enough". And laughed..

https://video.sme.sk/c/23146590/heger-migy-posleme-na-ukrajinu-vlada-nebude-cakat-na-parlament.html?ref=av-center

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Honestly, I hope jets are already there..

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PM Heger said, that government have agreed on sending 🇸🇰 retired MiGs to Ukraine.

He also stated that they found an "constitution respecting way how to do it", and they will present it to public in upcoming days.

The reason why they talk about "constitution respecting way" is that the government has no trust of pairlament, so they are only temporarily set by President to hold it until elections.

Source: https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3284136/

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…je konsenzus, aby Slovensko poskytlo stíhačky Ukrajine. „Dokončíme medzinárodné rokovania a rozhodne o tom vláda,“ povedal premiér a uistil, že odovzdanie migov bude v súlade s ústavou. Heger pripúšťa, že je potrebné sa zaoberať zmenou ústavy, aby myslela na kompetencie poverených vlád – v prípade poskytnutia migov však zmena ústavy…

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Pairlament held vote to express trust to government and it did not pass

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It was at the end of last year. We will have early election in september. This government is only temporary

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So the goverment got a no-trust vote?

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how are they still in charge?

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There has to be some government. They are "temporarirly set", or approved, by president of 🇸🇰 to keep the gov up until early election.

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Basically the fact why this thread was created was the fall of Slovakia government 🙂
I was writting about it here:
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No. After, first half 2024 I think. Not sure if Q1 or Q2

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First 4 MiG-29 left Slovak airspace today at lunch time.

UA pilots came to Slovak Air Force base Sliač with technicans. They did some modifications on site then flew those jets to Ukraine.

Rest of the MiGs are probably not able to fly and will be transported by ground in short time.

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Newest prefference survey does not look good for 🇸🇰

SMER is first (this is 3rd agency survey where SMER is first).
Than HLAS (a.k.a. SMER2).
4th is SMERs "partner" party, far right REPUBLIKA.

All democratic pro-west parties except PS (Progresivne Slovensko) are at the edge of entering pairlament (5% treshold).

https://twitter.com/MatejPancik_/status/1639961381976911874?t=9K1sKDCaBIPQsFQYQBeBFA&s=19

Podľa nového Focusu má od 4,3% po 5,8% až 5 strán. Smer podľa očakávaní prvý, získal však menej ako Hlas stratil, na druhú stranu o viac ako jeden percentuálny bod stúpla aj Republika. Bude to ešte lotéria okolo hranice zvoliteľnosti, no trendy sa nateraz významne nemenia. Žiaľ.

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Igor Matovics proposal to pay 500€ for a vote in elections did not pass. Voting in pairlament was today.

https://www.ta3.com/clanok/262589/matovicova-patstovka-sa-neschvalila-za-navrh-hlasovalo-prevazne-len-hnutie-oano

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Poslanci Národnej rady SR odmietli návrh na 500-eurovú odmenu pre voličov za účasť v tohtoročných parlamentných voľbách. Novelu zákona o podmienkach výkonu volebného práva v stredu neposunuli do druhého čítania. Návrh predložil líder OĽANO Igor Matovič.

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HOWEVER, he again managed to piss whole country.

There is a law, that if new law proposal is rejected, there cant be same proposal in pairlament for at least half year.

What Igor did, he put the exactly same proposal shortly before todays vote. Which means, he could have another vote for 500€ in May. Lawyers are now discussing if he found the hole in the law or if the second proposal is to be declined.

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PS: The 500€ got only 32 out of 150 votes in pairlament.

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Today Slovak pairlament rejected another one of excellent Igor Matovic idea.

The law, which should split deputy wage into 2 parts.
First, 1/3 of the wage would be "basic income" which deputy receives with no conditions.
The second part of the wage, 2/3 should be "optional" while the party of the deputy decides if he gets it, and how much.

https://e.dennikn.sk/minuta/3306600/?_ga=2.19891960.1524807080.1680257323-2126727234.1628890745?ref=pop&rtm_source=web&rtm_medium=article&rtm_campaign=share_button&rtm_variant=copy_url&rtm_content=23529501-9ff8-4c8f-8b2e-1823bb94ea85

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Parlament neposunul do druhého čítania návrh Igora Matoviča, ktorý mal výrazne znížiť základné platy poslancov. Plat sa mal znížiť z trojnásobku priemernej mzdy na priemernú mzdu a politické strany mali mať možnosť poslancom k platu priplácať podľa ich aktivity. Za návrh hlasovalo len 33 zo 118 prítomných poslancov. Za boli…

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https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1644283165412933632 @lunar sluice hi, how likely is this?

Russian techies may have deliberately damaged Slovak #MiG29, which #Slovakia has decided to hand over to #Ukraine, Slovak Defense Minister Jaroslav Nad said, Euroactiv reported.

The aircraft were found to have engine malfunctions that only Russian specialists had access to. 1/2

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How believable is Nad?

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He is fine. Politican but fine 🙃

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Yes. This week (this since it is Sunday today) resigned another 2 ministers. That makes total of 4 ministers missing in current "temporary" government. President of the 🇸🇰 already announced that she will name administrative government next week.

https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3359422/?ref=ampm

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Prezidentka Zuzana Čaputová potvrdila, že vymenuje úradnícku vládu a viesť ju bude viceguvernér NBS Ľudovít Ódor. Povedala, že ju chce predstaviť začiatkom týždňa, ktorý sa začne 15. mája. O menách ďalších ministrov nehovorila. „Tím nových ľudí je dnes zostavený.“ Vymenovanie „vlády odborníkov“ bolo po odchode Vlčana a Káčera jediným možným krok...

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She could not react Thursday as she was in GB for the cronation.

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The problem is, election survey does not predict anything good for 🇸🇰

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First is Ficos pro-Russian SMER.
Second is its clone HLAS.
Third is strongest pro-west party, ProgresivneSlovensko (PS).
Fourth is far-right REPUBLIKA, party of ex Kotleba LSNS members.
Fifth is business/mafia party SME RODINA of millionaire (and unconfirmed mafia dude) Boris Kollar.
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It is complicated.

To be honest, I do not believe SMER will exit EU or NATO. Fico is after money, and Russia will not provide as much money as EU. No way at all..

HLAS parry is derrived from SMER, everybody in HLAS was in SMER.

So, are they going to pursuit 🇸🇰 to leave EU or NATO? Most likely no.
But, they can very likely cooperate together to turn 🇸🇰 into something like Orbans Hungary.

Fico already announced he will hunt down many journalists that are against him. And HLAS will not stand against it.

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The problem is, Fico is already activerly using fear and anger. Making them worse and turning public anger against his oponents.

Just today president of 🇸🇰 announced she is going to make lawsuit against Fico for his never ending public attacks on her.

And thats just her, there are other public persons under SMER attack.

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…uviedla, že čelí vyhrážkam zabitím a podnikne právne kroky proti Robertovi Ficovi, ktorý šíri klamstvá o údajnej americkej agentke, Sorošovej vláde, konzultáciách s americkou ambasádou. V statuse o Ficovi napísala, že vie, že tieto obvinenia sú nepodložené a prekračujú hranice politického súboja. A vraví, že „vie aj to, že robiť…

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BTW sorry for my low activity here. I am very busy IRL. But if you guys have any questions just ask, I will answer 🙃

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It's all good, we all have our responsibilities, so we appreciate when you take time to write and share here (:

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This dude summed it up pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-55M_bJ02E

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Every country has a list at this point except us Iberians 😅 (at least there wasn't since I last checked)

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Just in time for the upcoming parliamentary elections

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The worst thing about that is. That most of the population of Slovakia does not believe the fight is about justice. And the ones who did injustice will be punished.
We all know its just two cartels trying to take control of police.

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So, people dont really care much

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However, many of the liberal, pro-democratic part of political spectrum pointed out, that it is not that long ago, when Orban, Hungary prime minister released most of human traffickers from Hungarian prison..
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/05/23/in-hungary-viktor-orban-releases-convicted-human-traffickers-from-prison-to-save-money_6027659_4.html

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The Austrian government fears that many of the smugglers released from Hungarian prisons in recent weeks will take advantage of the law to enter Austria.

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I'm in SK right now and have not seen this mentioned anywhere, thank you!

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Very interesting timing for this to happen

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Members of REPUBLIKA, neo-nazi party that has officialy joint effort with SMER, have luxury flats in SMER oligarchs Norbert Bodor building.

https://twitter.com/ICJK_sk/status/1699048961103876166?t=sZ1BE3-_biWITsA0y9K-kw&s=19

1/2 ⭕️In the centre of Nitra, on the site of the former Orbis cultural house,a complex with new luxury flats has been built.
👥Our findings indicate that the defendant oligarch Norbert Bödör close to the political party Smer, was behind the development company of the new Orbis.

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Meanwhile, election campaign peaks in Slovakia.

13.Sept. Igor Matovic (OLANO) interrupted SMER press conference.
It escalated so much, that the result was fight between Igor Matovic (ex-PM) and Robert Kalinak (ex-ministry of internal affairs).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxdyYQ5ap0

Yesterday, one of OLANO candidate assaulted a random citizen.
Similar scenario, OLANO parked the car with loud sound system inside of block of flats. And started to spread their crap.
One of the citizens, clearly unimpressed spit into the candidates face, which resulted in the candidate assoulting him (he is ex-kickboxer) and hit the man ľ times in the face with his fist.
https://spravy.pravda.sk/domace/clanok/681709-dalsia-bitka-v-kampani-kandidat-olano-dvakrat-udrel-muza-pastou-plut-do-tvare-si-nenecham-dal-som-mu-dve-otcovske-brani-sa/

Today, another OLANO candidate, Jozef Procko (former TV show comediant) was hit times in his head with raw chicken eggs.
He claims, he was also assaulted and hit with fist in the back, but that is not confirmed.
https://www.aktuality.sk/clanok/Cgu9TSX/volby-2023-pocas-kampane-v-lucenci-muz-hodil-vajcia-do-hlavy-jozefa-procka/

Predseda OĽaNO Igor Matovič a politik Smeru Robert Kaliňák mali v stredu ráno fyzickú potýčku. Do konfliktu sa zapojil aj Richard Glück, ktorý je na 53. mieste kandidátky Smeru. Matoviča dvakrát udrel päsťou do tváre. Líder OĽaNO ešte predtým kopol Kaliňáka do hrude.

Zdroj videi: OĽaNO, Smer

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Meanwhile, pools seems like the creation of no-SMER coallition will be nearly impossible.
BUT, also SMERs closest partner, neo-nazi REPUBLIKA is falling down, while PS (Progressive Slovakia) is fighting for 1st place with SMER.

https://dennikn.sk/3571766/prieskum-focusu-olano-a-sme-rodina-mimo-parlamentu-smer-by-na-vladnutie-nepotreboval-republiku/

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Smer má v novom prieskume Focusu na prvom mieste pred PS náskok 2,4 bodu. SaS je len tesne nad kvórom.

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But election calculators say, it is very possible that noone will be able to create new government.

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pro-west spectrum is decimated by egos. There are 2 bigger (around 4%) and about 2 or 3 smaller parties (under 3%) that refuse to merge.
However, they ask voters to vote for them, instead of PS, "else PS will have noone to make coalition with". 🙄

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Also, one funny story. Leader of KDH (Christian Democratic Party) Milan Majersky called LGBTI a "plague" in the live TV debate. When one of the viewers asked him, what is worse, if corruption or LGBTI. He said "both are plague".

https://www.ta3.com/clanok/273069/majersky-z-kdh-nazval-lgbti-komunitu-pliagou-bude-celit-trestnemu-oznameniu

It was kind of an affair, until OLANO fight club started.

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Predseda KDH Milan Majerský v nedeľu v relácii Na Telo v televízii Markíza nazval LGBTI+ komunitu pliagou a nešťastím. Ozvali sa viacerí politici, ktorých jeho výrok pobúril. Inštitút ľudských práv na Majerského podal trestné oznámenie.

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Election campaign in 🇸🇰 has ended this midnight. We are officialy in moratorium. However, it means nothing on the internet.

BUT, the polls, or trends in them show PS strenghtening, growing. While SMER slowly decreasing.

SMER is however still first, but with very small margin.

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However, the real question is, if either PS or SMER will have someone to make coallition with, as key partners of both of them:
Republika and SNS for SMER
SaS and Demokrati for PS

Are way lower than anybody would expect 3 months ago.

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This saturday will be thrilling.

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From the other "big players", there is Hlas (child of SMER) and KDH. Both of them claim to go into coallition with any party that gives them good offer. But real intentions are unclear. Both claim to not go with Fico, however kn8wing them and the leaders, its far from being 100% sure.

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Lastly, winner of 2020 elections, OLANO, is in very strange position. Leader Igor Matovic exceeded expectations with hus extremly agressive campaign. But people seem to have enough of him. He is pushing hard but % is not growing. And because they decided to go to elections as coallition, they have not 5%, but 7% limitto enter pairlament. Which they are very close to.

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Also because of the agressive campaing where the attacked very agressively both PS and SMER. It is hardly imagineable to see them in coallition with anybody.

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And many voters are asking who is Igor Matovic really fighting against..

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Often it looks like he is fighting with the demons inside of his head.

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Different agencies, different winner prediction:

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Populist Andrej Babiš of Czech Republic sent a message to Slovaks against voting Progressive Slovakia and its leader Michal Šimečka; the latter responds

Original: https://twitter.com/AndrejBabis/status/1707462683065286984
Retweet: https://twitter.com/MSimecka/status/1707492986274058278

V sobotu jsou na Slovensku důležité volby. Protože mi na Slovensku záleží, řekl jsem svůj názor. Progresívne Slovensko pana Šimečky je stejné jako naši Piráti. Vítání migrantů, legalizace drog, vyšší daně, nižší důchody a poslušnost Bruselu. Tak to dopadlo v ČR a Slovensku stejný…

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Vox Politico is agency that was closest to real results in past few elections from all agencies.

Here is their todays (T -1 day) prediction:

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Seats:
PS - 53
SMER - 33
OLANO - 14
HLAS - 12
SAS - 11
SNS - 10
SME RODINA - 9
KDH - 8

Interesting is, that Republika, far right party that was number 2 in poools at the beginning of the year, is under the 5% limit now.
That can be a result of their leader, Milan Uhrik extremely low performance in big TV debates. Everybody was able to factualy destroy his nazi ass in every debate, including moderators.

Basically, all of the parties except PS and SMER are dancing at the edge of pairlament.

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Another interesting fact, is the math. To make coallition, 76 representants is needed (to have more than half representants).

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hey there, thank you for your updates here. i have only a passing familiarity with this election, and that which i have is only because of the implications it may have for policy w/r/t ukraine.

i read the polling figures you shared as indicative of a pretty fragmented electoral landscape, one not particularly conducive to the formation of a successful governing coalition. is that a reasonably safe reading, or are there factors that might make assembling a coalition more likely, such as broad agreement over a single, singularly important issue that might paper over other divisions?

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Right, thought so

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You can read about their methodology here 👆

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The current exit polls

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If (if) these results are accurate , would suggest Fico wouldn't be able to form a government. Though clearly would not be easy for PS, but at least not impossible

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I’d wish for something like Bulgaria or Thailand (the latter I favour the winning party), where the winning parties were unable to successfully form a government.

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The republika party possibly didnt make it into parliament which is important

spice coyote
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Well jeez that exit poll turned out to be very, very wrong

spice coyote
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In the US at least, exit polls have an established history of being inaccurate.

fathom girder
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I went to sleep. Did not watch it. Sooo..good morning 🤨

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Its public secret that Pellegrini, leader of HLAS is in conflict with Robert Fico.

Now, those gossips will be put to test 🙃

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Also, the big question is, if KDH will go with SMER. I say, I would not be surprised.

spice coyote
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SMER + HLAS + SNS is most likely

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PS + HLAS + KDH + SAS is more like wishfull thinking.

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Leader of KDH Majersky said in debates SMER is more acceptable for him than PS (bacause of LGBTI rights that PS want to do).

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Also while leader of HLAS Pellegrini is allegedly in very strong conflict with Robert Fico. He did not say they wont go with SMER. He only said he will not join government where Robert Fico will be Prime Minister.

BUT thats also not much of a guarantee, basicaly everyone in HLAS who has some power was in SMER, so the connections are strong there.

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Honestly I’m afraid of HLAS which would be the kingmaker

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How much of a role did disinformation play in this election?

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HLAS-Smer would be the oh no, and I quickly read an analysis saying it’s more probable than HLAS-PS

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BUT, the good news is, both KDH and HLAS are pro-EU, pro-NATO, pro-west parties. They never even gave a reason to doubt it.

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That will be in conflict with Smer’s pro-Putin stance

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How much of a role did Twitter play?

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Close to none. Twitter is marginal in Slovakia. Facebook is king here

spice coyote
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Is Slovak Twitter more of liberals than conservatives?

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I would say so. Someone said once that "only elites" are there

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Here in the Philippines each platform has a reigning faction: progressives take Twitter and Reddit, while Facebook and YouTube are contested by progressives and traditionalists, with the latter faction more dominating

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Facebook must be notorious; even in Myanmar the now-junta used to dominate there in 2017

spice coyote
# lunar sluice I would say so. Someone said once that "only elites" are there

From what I've seen, disinformation often starts elsewhere before spreading on a more popular site. I've seen plenty of disinformation that originated from 4chan before spreading to Twitter and then Facebook. I've noticed how certain individuals seem to first test out their narratives on 4chan to make adjustments before fully letting it loose.

Did it happen here?

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# spice coyote How much of a role did disinformation play in this election?

There was everything..

Deep fake voice recording of Simecka and journalist saying how they are going to fake election.

OLANO released 10 points from PS electoral programm they are against (all 10 fake, not in PS programm).

SMER & Republika announced elections will be faked and asked voters to be carefull.

Soros's name was ofc in media almost daily.

And so on..

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OLANO released allegedly messge communication between SAS leader Richard Sulik and oligarch Slavomir Hascak..without any evidence or proof. Just 1 day before moratorium.

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I don’t remember well if what I saw was concerning Caputova attempting to manipulate results for PS

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Fico win would be at loggerheads with the president if he were to be PM, I guess

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Most of the campaign was fear mongering. From both sides

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SMER and co. -> progressives will come, fill country with imigrants and turn your kids into gays.

Pro-west -> Fico will come, and hand over our country to Russia.

spice coyote
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He has made statements about ending support for Ukraine and criticized the sanctions

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He is. But I think he is more pro-money and Russia cant give him as much money as EU. + With HLAS and KDH he can excuse it wirh his voters why he still is pro-EU

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Real radicals were REPUBLIKA and those did not make it

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BTW, even Fico will have hard time. Slovakia is economically on Greek trajectory. There did not left much to be given.

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Yes it is. I will have to research ro give more insight, as its not my field. But I remenber in 2022, there was heavy debat how the EU debt brake is standing "in our way". And they might even deactivate it to pass the budget for 2023.

This year, its even worse, as we have been without gov almost entire year and no real work was done in pairlament/government until now.

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Obviously an expected sidebar to all of this but it is nice to see Kotleba vanish

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That's the bright side I'm staring at the entire morning loldog

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TBH, they are worse. While Kotleba was very known nazi. Those two youngsters are not seen as nazis for many. So more dangerous, as they play to be good boys.

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But also, Gymesi, Boris Kollar, Pcolinsky family. They are all out. Thats good.

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There is still hope with this country 🙃

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% in worst roma ghetto villages, very interesting:

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Those are villages where overwheling majority is roma and lowest income in Slovakia

spice sluice
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Are you suggesting fraud from OLANO there?

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I mean, getting so high % in one village could be miracle. But in all of them?

I dont believe in coincidence. The % are too high. 95% of CAST votes in those villages were for OLANO. How big is probability of that happening in 20 villages independently? Those are all over east Slovakia. They are not very close to eachother. Some are but some are quite distant.

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I don't think it's unprecedented that a populist party attracts lots of votes from the poorest members of society.

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There are more populist parties 🙃

And again, those % are too high.
For example, Lunik IX, 9% participation in 2020, 84% participation in 2023. 91% of participans voted for OLANO. 91% for one party. Id take 50 maybe even 60%, but not 91%. Total pool is about 4400 people.

How can one party get 91% in such big pool? I believe there are only 2 options: fraud or bribery.

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Honestly if it was fraud, it would probably look like that, I don't deny it

But it's also true that more evidence is needed

spice coyote
west ruin
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Cheers. I was struggling to get the results to display the same but wasn't sure if just with doing it on phone and wasn't sure if I had the right site either

lunar sluice
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This is a very good map. I like it because it has higher resolution and shows that not all of Slovakia except big cities is SMER.

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Why is aliancia so dominant in the south?

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Hungarian minority

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Aliancia is their party

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I don't think they took the colourblind into account choosing those colours.

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Some say, Pellegrini has only bad choices.

If he goes with Fico, SMER will eat HLAS. Basically there is no need to have 2 almost identical parties and SMER is famous for canibalising its partners (/wave REPUBLIKA). But not only REPUBLIKA, in each gov, SMER destroyed its weakest coallition member, SIET, MOST-HID, etc..

If he goes with PS, many of his voters can get mad. Based on poolfrom July, 62% of HLAS voters prefer coallition with SMER.

https://dennikn.sk/3489697/ak-si-pellegrini-nechce-pohnevat-svojich-volicov-po-volbach-si-vyberie-skor-smer-ako-ps-prieskum-ipsosu/

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Najprijateľnejšou vládnou stranou je pre najviac voličov Hlas. Dve tretiny jeho voličov by vo vláde nemalo problém so Smerom, Progresívne Slovensko odmietajú. Republiku akceptuje aj viac ako pätina voličov SaS.

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Also there is very nice anecdote.

Journalists asked EU representant of SMER Monika Flasikova-Benova what gov could look like. She answered SMER, HLAS, SNS. And when asked if they can convince HLAS to join them. Her reply was "heh, HLAS? that wont be a problem" and laughed.

Yesterday, Pellegrini was asked about this "incident" and he said, that she should watch her mouth, and be carefull how is she talking about HLAS.

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# spice coyote If possible, can you elaborate on this? Is the economic state of Slovakia that d...

Temporary PM Odor today announced consolidation in state finances because of too high dept of 🇸🇰

https://ifp.sk/navrh-na-ozdravenie-verejnych-financii/

Úradnícka vláda pripravila široké a pestré “menu” konkrétnych konsolidačných opatrení, z ktorých si nasledujúca vláda bude môcť vybrať a vrátiť tak slovenské verejné financie do zdravej kondície..

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Sooo..the game is on. First week after elections:

Gov version #1: SMER, HLAS, SNS - most likely future Slovak gov. However, rumors say that Pellegrini and Fico cant stand eachother. Fico also allegedly want to be PM, but Pellegrini said before elections that he is not going to join gov where Fico is PM. (But HLAS is not only Pellegrini, so we shall see).

Gov version #2: PS, HLAS, SAS, KDH. This is less likely. The problem here is KDH. They are strongly againat liberal agenda, especially gender stuff. The problem is also KDH leader Majesky. It seems like despite party high council strongly ordered to not join SMER, Majesky is still hoping for joining SMER gov. He was negotiating with SMER already.

So, we have basically 2 clear couples:
SMER + SNS
PS + SAS

Than there is HLAS, which is needed by both of them. And Pellegrini is not huryying it, he knows very well that they need him and most likely trying to milk it as much as possible.

There is also KDH which is in this strange state. SMER does not need it, but PS does. However while KDH high council declined joining SMER, it seems like KDH leader Majesky would rather go with SMER than libeals.

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I post Twitter threads here, because they have auto translation, so you can easily translate it from Slovak to whatever language fits you best.

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And while SMER and HLAS have discussion in progress, leader of PS Michal Simecka publicly offered post of Prime Minister to Peter Pellegrini.

He said, they will give same number of ministry posts to HLAS as PS would have. And make the parties "equal" in the gov they could form together:

https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3617363/?ref=ampm

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…Petrovi Pellegrinimu okrem postu premiéra aj rovnaký počet ministerstiev. „Dostal ponuku, ktorá by stranu Hlas v budúcej vláde postavila na roveň PS – počtom aj silou ministerstiev,“ informuje. Ďalšou ponukou Šimečku je, že post ministra vnútra nedostane PS, ale ani Hlas.“Tlmočili sme mu dokonca aj ochotu rokovať o obsadení ministerstva…

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And while I was writting this, high council of HLAS decided that they want to go with SMER and accept Robert Fico as their lo..ehmm..Prime Minister.

https://dennikn.sk/3617516/u-pellegriniho-rozhodli-vyberaju-si-premiera-fica-s-vladou-smeru-hlasu-a-sns/?ref=mwat

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Pokus vytvoriť vládu Progresívneho Slovenska, Hlasu, KDH a SaS stroskotal. Koalíciu vytvoria Smer, Hlas a SNS. Rozhodlo o tom v utorok 20-členné predsedníctvo Hlasu, ktoré si vybralo variant s Robertom Ficom a s Andrejom Dankom. Hlas už s PS rokovať nebude. Peter Pellegrini očakáva, že toto spoločné rozhodnutie predsedníctva Hlasu…

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Soo. Today is the first day of Rober Fico's 4th cabinet.

His first day, he announced that Ukraine will get no more military help from Slovakia.

While media and social networks are bashing us. I would like to be a bit "real" here.

Fico is criminal, he is mafia boss, he is villain, etc.. but he is WAY SMARTER than most of peoole are able or wiling to acknowledge.

He can say that there will be no more military help to UA. Because 🇸🇰 already gave everything it could. I mean Slovak armed forces. Its empty words, we wouldnt give anything more regardless if he said it or not. So he used empty words to gather pilitical points. To gain attention. (Not mentioning 🇸🇰 was praised to heaven half year ago for giving Migs, now is being sent to hell for Ficos words).

There is another source of military help in 🇸🇰, the weapon heavy machinery manufacturers. Contracts for Zuzana 2 howitzers, new type of howitzers in cooperation with UA and other private contracts. However, Fico will very unlikely touch those. The military companies are owned by Ficos oligarchs and they are living theirs golden age right now. Those companies were slowly dying. But now, profits are skyrocketing, Fico is not stupid to destroy it.

  • EU & NATO. Its nothing new for him, to say one thing at home and something totally different on EU soil. I strongly believe he gives shit about Russia. All he want is money, and he knows very well, that Russia cant give him as much money as he can steal from EU funds. What he will do is most likely to play Russian whore at home and EU citizen in Europairlament.
spice sluice
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I think, we will need to wait and see 🙃

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Maybe any hints from his previous mandates? He has been PM at the same time as Orbán before

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I do not remember any strong interactions between him and Orban. Or any public ones. Slovak only ferinery, Slovnaft was sold to Hungarian MOL, and so on. But officially, they are not big friends. Not big meetings or joint statements or any official.cooperation between HU and SK during Ficos previous reigns.

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There have been no common topic before war in UA to be honest.

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I dont even remember Fico to mention Orban any significant amouts during his campaign.

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That's interesting considering there's a Hungarian minority in Slovakia (which faces discrimination tbf)

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Honestly. Most of them are mad at Orban. 🙃

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And Fico too

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Oh, I know they don't like either, I have a couple friends from there loldog

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Gyiory Gymesi, Orbans horse in this elections failed miserably.

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Slovak Hungary party, failed miserably in elections.

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Slovak gov is ignoring south Slovakia and its citizens. Not developing those regions..not at all.

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Honestly, I am not sure why they are mad at Orban. But they sure as hell are 🙃

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I have been listening to Ficos speech today. It is very "diplomatic" I say.

He said for example:
"In case of new sanctions against RU, we will not aplly any, WITHOUT study of impact on Slovak economy."
"In case of UA joining EU, we are okay with it, as long, as Ukraine will meet all criteria other countries meet when joining EU."
"We will send demining technolgy, medical supplies, and so on, but no weapons to Ukraine."

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He also said "We are fully supporting Israel. Hamas are nasty terrorists, but the Israeli response cannot be to carpet bomb the Gaza to the stone age, killing everyone there including civilians."

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50 billion even...

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As I said, he says whatever his voters want to hear but the actions are different 🙃

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Military oligarchs dont want to stop the new gold rush 😉

spice sluice
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I would not celebrate too early. They have milions of reasons to stay together, if you know what I mean..

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Oh, absolutely, I'm not saying it's the beginning of the end, but it's not promising on their behalf that on day 1 they're arguing already

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Ministry of Foreigin Affairs from SMER, Juraj Blanar was today on the visit in Prague. He said, that comercial weapon deliveries to Ukraine will continue. That there is no reason to stop selling weapons to Ukraine.

https://www.aktuality.sk/clanok/bO0Ywsf/vojenska-pomoc-pre-ukrajinu-od-slovenskych-a-ceskych-firiem-bude-pokracovat-tvrdi-juraj-blanar/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=aktuality-page-post

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🤣🤣🤣

west ruin
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Fico during campaign said, quote: "not even a single bullet to Ukraine if we take power".

How did he mean it? Only he knows 🙃

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As I stated here after elections. Previous gov gave everything that Slovak army could. There is nothing more to give except for comercial newly built weapons.

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Fico is opportunist and populist. He is not authentic pro-Russian. He will do whatever needs to be done to make his oligarchs and him to earn money and power.

The issue for Fico will be SNS and Danko, who is authentic pro-Russian and was already raising his finger when Fico voted for santions in EU pairlament. Now I expect Danko to also to be not very happy about this statement.

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However, the real problem of Slovakia is not UA aid.

New ministry of police (dont know how to say it in English) since taken power, have replaced very high manager in Police, including President of Police.
The investigators who have been working on SMER and HLAS cases during previous government, were disciplined. Their wages were set to minimal ones. Evn though, they have had status of protected witnesses.

Another case happened today: https://www.aktuality.sk/clanok/mBa88QD/na-zahori-rano-policajti-zasahovali-voci-chranenemu-kolegovi/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=aktuality-page-post

One of the protected witness police officer was taken by NAKA (something like SWAT), because he was susspected to use official car for private purposes.

SMER is makin sure that everyone who opposed them, will feel the force of their power. And they are few days in power..

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To be absolutely honest with you, I am pleasantly surprised because I did not expect so many people there. To be honest, I expected it to be fiasco.

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Also funny note:

This big protest was organized by SAS, PS, and KDH I think.

Igor Matovic and his OLANO (now renamed to SLOVENSKO), organized "counter-protest"? in different place.

While this SAS & PS protest filled the square, Matovics protest have had like 30 attendants.

My faith in this country is restored.

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‼️Hungary's government interfered with Slovakia's election campaign, @RFERL Hungary's @kelleralant found. Just like in Poland, Orbán's cabinet office paid for an online anti-migrant ad targeting Slovakia – when it was already election silence there. Link: https://adstransparency.google.com/advertiser/AR15623332491438325761/creative/CR13737288691...

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Some more photos from protests. I must admitt its quite alot of people for 🇸🇰. Our protests are usually very decentvin numbers.

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Who's the guy the arrow points at in the second picture?

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Someones friend from twitter 🙃

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Looks like other towns joined too. This is from Nitra.

Wow, the only time when other cities than Bratislava and Kosice were protesting, was when Jan and Martina were murdered.

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Meanwgile, Igor Matovic, self proclaimed warrior against mafia is doing what he can best. Spitting venom on his partners. He is releasing status after status on Faceboo against organizators of protest, because they did not invite him (right decision IMO, and seems like I am not alone).

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Well, yes, the reason of those protests is the prosecution reform. But I would say, alot of people did know Fico will attack lawfulness of our country and were prepared to protests. We just did not know what form his attack will have.

As for the representativeness. I mentioned earlier that protests in Slovakia are generally very rare..and to have protests in other than capial was only once. When Jan Kuciak was murdered. So based on this (protests in smallwr town already were and are planned too), I would say its no joke. People are taking it seriously.

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Cant say how representative of population it is. But while Fico won elections, he did not receive alot of votes. Maybe 1 out of 5 is ok with him.

The problem is, people were not voting as 🇸🇰 has literally no pro-west right-wing party. I dont mean life far-right. I mean like oposite to socialists. So people have noone to vote for. As SMER and HLAS are socialists. Also PS while oposing Fico is also kinda leftist party.

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Another set of protests today. I will be adding photos as they appear on my Twitter TL.

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Prešov too, square is full:

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Prime minister of administrative gov, Ludovit Odor posted his selfie from protest:

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Counterprotest to support prime minister Fico:

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Yes

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Another protest is announced

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One thing that baffles me about this is the fact that some sort of active civil society in SK has, in my eyes, failed in mobilizing people and these protests have to be organized by the opposition. The last time I saw Slovak civil society being active and successfully mobilizing people from all across the political spectrum was after Kuciak and his wife were killed in 2018.

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Yes. Actually it was not "last time Slovak civil society being active", it was the only time.

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This is very interesting summary.

First list is todays protests organized by opposition.
Second list is protests without political background.

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I dunno what it means but I found it interesting info 🙃

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Based on the font and design, seems like DennikN

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Oh ok, you just came across the screenshot and not the original document. That's a pain 😦

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Some photos from protests, hopefully it is ok if I post link to here. Since I got them from there.

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Tomorrow, another set of protests.

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Little bit off topic.
This is kind project from one of my Twitter friends. He did crowdfunding campaign (only on Twitter tho, so no big reach in 🇸🇰), to buy pork ribs. Than processed it to make bacon which is being sent to UA soldiers right now.

https://twitter.com/LeoLizak/status/1748339430815941119?t=matgB-1pbTP3yTAYhn3_BA&s=19

Good people from twitter collected money to make homemade bacon for brave Ukrainian soldiers🇺🇦 the first part of four leaves for Ukraine already tomorrow 😊 please help me retweet this in your country🙏 @KramarenkoMari3 @Maks_NAFO_FELLA @Gerashchenko_en

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Also, another, more serious event is petition to drop mrs.Simkovicova from Ministry of Culture post.

She is face of dissinfo channel TV Slovan. Openly using her ministry post for anti LGBTI or anti liberalism campaign. Part of SNS party, openly pro Russian fugure.

https://www.peticie.com/otvorena_vyzva_na_odstupenie_ministerky_martiny_imkoviovej

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The petition got more signs in one day, than mrs.Simkovicova had votes in general Slovak elections. And still counting..

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Petition will soon have more signs, than the party of SNS, which is this ministry from, got votes in last elections.

https://twitter.com/onelemonandits1/status/1748732367601066288?t=-4pOFs2RW-jiERh4mZy8nw&s=19

SNS nevidí dôvod na odstúpenie ministerky kultúry Dolores Umbridg... teda pardon, Martiny Šimkovičovej.

tých dôvodov je už takmer 130000.

a teda nechcem hovoriť o preferenčných krúžkoch, no zase na oplátku pripomeniem, že úplne celá SNS získala 167000 hlasov.

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Yup. As I mentioned before, she is very dissinfo positive person with pro-Russia ties. Thats why the petition against her is so popular.

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Facebook account of Ministry of Culture of Slovakia was clered today. All statuses writen by new staff were deleted.

The last status on its official.Facebook page is farewell post of temporary ministry of culture from 2023.

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To me, it seems like someone above current Ministry of Culture have had enough. And gave her some talk..

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She published statement on Telegram, that Ministry of Culture FB pace is "under cyberattack" since November 2023 and they wont use it until they "finish investigation".

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Here is the telegram post.

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Ministry of Culture of Slovakia filled criminal complaint for above mentioned pettition.
https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3787980/

reason: "damage to other people's rights, unauthorized handling of personal data, unauthorized access to the computer system, manipulation of voting, hindering or making difficult the performance of an important task of a state body"

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…, ktorú doteraz podpísalo už vyše 153-tisíc ľudí. Sťažuje sa napríklad, že podpisy pribúdajú rýchlo aj počas noci. „Čísla a podpisy nereprezentujú vo všetkých prípadoch skutočne overené fyzické osoby. Čísla hlasujúcich kontinuálne narastajú lineárnym spôsobom aj počas nočných hodín. Počet neidentifikovaných hlasujúcich a duplicitných adries hla...

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While so called frau Simkovicova is filling all the media attention. I believe her actions are requested by Fico and his party. Because when media put attention to her, visible, but really meaningless action on grand scheme of gov. What Fico is doing ( and what is not getting attention) are changes in criminal law. Lowering not only sanctions for bribery and economical criminality, but also statute of limitations. From 20 to 10 years on case of murder. To 3 years in case of corruption, etc.

https://spravy.pravda.sk/domace/clanok/691468-trestny-zakon-zmeny-novela-nizsie-tresty-drogy-korupcia-kajucnici-robert-fico-daniel-lipsic-boris-susko/

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I dont know m7ch about law, but ALOT of lawyers is making statements against it, saying it will support wide variety of criminal actions across whole 🇸🇰 society.

There are good postcasts about it, unfortunately in Slovak.

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But what resonated with me was, that many of criminal acts linked with being in gov, are to have statute of limitations about 3 years. So, the act you do as part of gov wont be punishable afer your mandate ended.

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Thursday protests are slowly becoming regulary occuring events..

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Sorry for some of the criminal law changes.

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This is the real reason why people protest.

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Many believe, this law encourage criminals to do what they do best.

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SMER is tryin to change criminal law before next talk about it in pairament.
https://dennikn.sk/minuta/3801312/

Chanes are mostly minor, but big quantity. Most sinificant change is to make EU happy about persecutions in case of wasting EU money.

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Smer na poslednú chvíľu prichádza s rozsiahlym pozmeňujúcim návrhom k novele Trestného zákona, ústupky sú však kozmetické. Pod návrhom je podpísaný poslanec Smeru a obžalovaný v kauze Očistec Tibor Gašpar. Špeciálna prokuratúra má zaniknúť k 15. marcu. Jednou zo zmien má byť úprava hraníc škôd. Gašparov pozmeňujúci návrh dostali opoziční…

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Another set of protests today. Squares filled.

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New criminal law was accepted by coalition representatives in pairlament today.

Now president will need to sign it (which will most likely not happen).

Also, oposition already stated they will make submission to the constitutional court.

So the high stakes game has started.

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One (one of many) cherry of this new criminal law is, that they decreased statute of limitations of RAPE from 20 to 10 years.
They have also lowered statute of limitation and punishments for corruption and bribey, while increasing (already high) ones for drugs, like marihuana for example.

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https://dennikn.sk/3849298/fico-konspiruje-ze-pre-ukrajinu-moze-prist-o-funkciu-premiera/
Does anyone have any more details about this? Im not sure I understand what this article

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Predseda vlády Robert Fico (Smer) vo videonahrávke dramaticky oznámil, že na pondelok zvolal bezpečnostnú radu štátu, rokovanie vlády a bude hovoriť aj s koaličnými partnermi. Hneď potom odcestuje na „bojovú poradu k Ukrajine“ do Paríža. Bez podrobností premiér naznačuje, že by [lock]mohol prísť o funkciu premiéra. „Aj keby ma mal…

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The reform plan is to rename RTVS into STaR ("Slovak Television and Radio") and to dismiss most of its top management, including the head of the channel. A new boss is to be appointed by a council, elected partially by the Ministry of Culture and partially by the parliament, where the ruling coalition has the majority.
The culture minster is a well-known Putinist.
https://www.euronews.com/2024/03/17/bratislava-sees-thousands-protest-overhaul-of-national-broadcaster

euronews

Bratislava sees thousands protest overhaul of national broadcaster.

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☝️Erik Kalinaks "defense" speech after he was accused of being promoted by Russian YT channel

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Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico was interviewed by Russian television during the commemoration of the liberation of Bratislava by the Soviet army. https://dennikn.sk/3921988/fico-na-slavine-hovoril-o-mieri-na-ukrajine-kritizoval-eu-a-dal-rozhovor-ruske-televizii/

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„Slavín je našou Sochou slobody, tu na tomto mieste si musíme hovoriť pravdu o druhej svetovej vojne,“ prihovoril sa premiér Robert Fico (Smer) na vojenskom pamätníku približne dvom stovkám ľudí. Boli medzi nimi ministri, poslanci aj občania, ktorí sa na bratislavský Slavín vybrali s ruskými a slovenskými zástavami a niektorí…

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It was EU elections campaign of DEMOKRATI party, of ex-MoD Jaroslav Nad.
Apparently itt will be "overwritten" by opposite meaning in second phase.
But the timing was awfull..

https://domov.sme.sk/c/23314391/demokrati-chcu-kampanou-zabranit-naplneniu-vyrokov-z-ich-billboardov.html

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Also, today was meeting of SK and UA government in Michalovce. Fico said, after this meeting, that Crimea and Donbas is Ukraine and that Russia is agressor who unprovoked attacked his neighbour.
https://dennikn.sk/3936925/vojna-je-nevyprovokovana-krym-a-donbas-patria-ukrajine-na-com-sa-fico-zhodol-s-ukrajinskym-premierom-v-michalovciach/?ref=list

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Prečítali sme si spoločný dokument slovenského a ukrajinského premiéra, v ktorom sa Robert Fico jasne postavil na stranu Kyjiva.

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Aww, so cute.
Allegedly, Fico said to his Ukrainian counterpart in private dialogue, that "pro-Ruz talks are only for local Slovak audience".

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He also said officialy, after meeting that: "Slovak people do not realize the incredible size of tragedy that is happening in Ukraine".

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…. „Keby útočník na D. Trumpa vedel po slovensky, stačilo by mu prečítať si Denník N, SME alebo Aktuality, aby dostal chuť ‚urobiť poriadok‘ s neposlušným bývalým prezidentom USA. Scenár ako cez kopirák.“Ďalej napísal: „Politickí oponenti D. Trumpa sa ho pokúšajú zatvoriť, a keď im to nevychádza, tak toľko štvú…

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As more and more Slovak politicans visit or plan to visit Moscov, Armed Forces of Slovakia released statement:

https://x.com/ozbrojenesily/status/1859674332466933910?t=C-6twFDhNJ8e7vOn2fI7LA&s=19

We strongly dissociate ourselves from the publicized activities of the mayor of village Smilno - and another person - related to the visit to Moscow and from all similar activities that may damage the reputation of the Armed Forces of the Slovak Republic.

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Those guys in Slovak Armed forces uniforms are not in active duty!

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It is hardly enough, but at least something.

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Also initiative "Peace for Ukraine" has submitted proposal to prosecutors office regarding Ficos visit of Moscow.

https://www.sme.sk/minuta/23428213/iniciativa-mier-ukrajine-poda-na-generalnu-prokuraturu-podnet-v-pripade-ficovej-cesty-do-moskvy

However, I highly doubt it will have any real impact, as Slovak general prosecutprs office is in grasp grip of Ficos, pro-Russian prosecutor Maros Zilinka, who already acquited many of Ficos oligarchs and political friends.

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It is ALOT of material, few hours. But it is very interesting.

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While 🇸🇰 PM Rober Fico spent whole December 2024 spitting fire at UA for "suddenly stopping gas transit and thus making economic damage to Slovakia".

Critical infrastructure company Eustream where Slovak gov is involved, did prepare for it one year in advance, by aski g 🇸🇰 gov to allow them to compensate loss of lrofit via higher cost for customers.

https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/ekonomika-firmy-bez-ruskeho-plynu-prijde-kretinsky-o-miliardy-ale-slovaci-mu-to-vynahradi-267301

Přerušený tranzit přes Ukrajinu bude mimo jiné znamenat konec slovenských obchodů s ruským plynem. Pocítí to i Daniel Křetínský, spolumajitel trubek směřujících přes Slovensko dál na západ.

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New wave of protests is expected this friday across many 🇸🇰 towns.

There was one small protests in Bratislava during Christmas time, now this wave if its successor.

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More initiatives are emerging..

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There are also various posters which people are sharing on social networks.

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I have them from Twitter/Bluesky

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Yeah, but it is the norm in the server to share link to sources, including images

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Ok, give me a while to find it 🙃

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I will be adding some photos from todays protests.

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I am trying to get photos from other cities, as Bratislava ones will be probably everywhere 🙃

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As expected, Fico refused to go to Kyiv, but the opposition leader, Michal Simecka, today, like one hour ago, unexpectedly, without previous announcement posted photos from Kyiv with "Its friday, we shall come, so we are here!"

https://x.com/MSimecka/status/1880196700519698602?t=SZgrHfz4zTpSVd5ZBc1AnQ&s=19

Je piatok. Vraj sme mali prísť, tak som tu.

Pozdravujem vás z Kyjeva, kde dnes prišla silná delegácia politikov a političiek PS. Čakajú nás dôležité rokovania. Náš cieľ je jasný - znovu otvoriť dvere, ktoré Robert Fico zabuchol svojimi agresívnymi výpadmi. Slovensko a Ukrajina

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Mr.Simecka is now having meeting with president Zelenskyi

https://x.com/MSimecka/status/1880251562636825016?t=lzBgncFVf65IUOJxGaJT1w&s=19

🇸🇰🇺🇦 Dôležité stretnutie s prezidentom @ZelenskyyUa. Nesiem od neho pre Slovensko jasný odkaz. Ukrajina si váži našu podporu a má záujem na tých najlepších vzťahoch a spolupráci - vrátane energetiky. A je pripravená rokovať. Presne na to teraz vyzývam Roberta Fica.

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More than 250 psychologists and psychiatrists have signed a letter against Fico, calling him out for his resignation due to his illiberalism and also mention that he has not received sufficient treatment for his assassination attempt and how it is impacting his work https://dennikn.sk/4415750/otvoreny-list-psychiatrov-a-psychologov-premierovi-ficovi/

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Vážený pán premiér, obraciame sa na Vás otvoreným listom ako občania a profesionáli v oblasti psychiatrie a psychológie. Ohrozenie demokracie na Slovensku a medzinárodného postavenia nášho štátu nás vedie k tomu, aby sme sa vyjadrili k Vášmu politickému správaniu a verejnému vystupovaniu. Vopred zdôrazňujeme, že nechceme hodnotiť Vašu osobnosť a...

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Alot more will be tomorrow

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The interesting part is, that Orava region, where town of Dolny Kubin is located, as one if the less wealthy region of Slovakia, is traditionaly pro-SMER voting.

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Thank you for doing this!

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The transparent says: "bastion of SMER has fallend today". As Cadca is traditionally very strong pro-SMER in each ellections.

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This is interesting opinion, most of Fico's close friends, or business partners are gone by this day..

https://x.com/smato77/status/1882739482732237269?t=B6ktWfGKcCcxswtCYK7Q0A&s=19

@kuna_ladislav Main architect died: Paska
Main marketer died: Flasik
Main ideology builder left: Zala
Main conspiracy theorist jailed: Kocner
Main financial advisors are gone: Basternak, Pociatek, Kazimir
Main legal accomplice is dead: Trnka
Main cover-up artist is out of order: Kovacik
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While today was main focus on protests, there were also 2 other "interesting" things that happened.

First is alleged cyber attack. Robert Fico made strong statement on press conference whete he said that goverment owned health i surance company and other giv facilities are again under cyber attack. In the light of early January cadastre cyber attack, where ransomware made this institution out of service for more tha 2weeks and counting. It seemed very serious. However, leaked info suggesr that this time, the alleged "cyber attack" was just phishing email.

Press article about alleged cyber attack: https://dennikn.sk/minuta/4427663/

osint (if I can call it this way) investigation, that shows traces of the phising email authir to Russia: https://bsky.app/profile/minorfloat.bsky.social/post/3lgip2jnkuk2e

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V prípade Všeobecnej zdravotnej poisťovne ide podľa informácií Denníka N o phishing, teda pokus o podvodné získanie citlivých informácií, a nie o „masívny kyberútok“, ako tvrdí Robert Fico. Premiér ho bez jediného dôkazu spája aj s protestmi, opozíciou, Ukrajinou a mimovládkami „financovanými zo zahraničia“. Premiér povedal, že útok sa začal…

phish ide z domeny registrovanej v Rusku. v Rusku, sudruh Fico. namontovany na IP adresu v Rusku, ktora uz hostila phishing na CSOB, FIO banku, ci Netflix. prepac sudruh Fico, si nekompetentny, neodborne siris paniku!!!

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Some nice moments from ptotests:

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Translation (google translator):

Statement by four members of the National Council of the Slovak Republic on the current situation.

We perceive with concern the statements of the chairman of the Hlas Matúš Šutaj Eštok party, which are not based on the truth and discredit us.

Instead of a discussion, we observe an increased interest of the police and security forces in our persons.

At meetings with the party leadership, we always emphasized the guarantee of security, so that there would be no abuse of power against us and the citizens of Slovakia.

We have always insisted on maintaining democratic values ​​and trying to address people's real problems. We are still concerned with maintaining the government coalition.

We ask the Prime Minister of the Slovak Republic for an urgent solution to these problems in order to end the uncertainty in society.

Under this pressure, we will not vote in the NRSR until it is resolved.

Ján Ferenčák

Roman Malatinec

Radomír Šalitroš

Samuel Migal

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This is quite a thread to the Ficos cabinet, as without those 4 representatives, they will not have majority in pairlament.

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There really was no reason to go to Moscow as:

1.) Putin/Russia is not the one who did not want to refresh gas transit contract, Ukraine did. So if he would want to convience someone, it would be Zelenskyii not Putin.
2.) President Zelenskyii statet several times, that Ukraine is ready to privide alternatives to Russian gas to Slovakia, they just need someone to talk to, someone who they can make deal with. But nobody from current 🇸🇰 gov showed any interest in dialogue with Ukraine.
3.) During his visit in Moscow, Fico stated it is having negotiations with Putin. BUT 🇸🇰 pairlament never aproved such travel, never asked PM to go to Moscow in the first place, so technically, he did nkt have mandate to do so. When this was spoken openly in public (after public got dissatisfied with his Mosciw visit), he changed. He said it was his "private visit", not official. + its still unclear how he went there, as official 🇸🇰 gov planes were parked in their airport during his visit of Moscow.

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Also, nobody knows what they were talking about. + former ministry of foreigin affairs, Rastislav Kacer point out, that Fico talked to Putin "between 4 eyes", whichbis in his opinion wery suspicious, as usually, even if 2 leader talk "privately", there is one diplomat on each side as witnesse.

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I will find links about this later today, I am.little.bit busy now.

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Here is the link to the podcast with mr.Kacer:

https://youtu.be/2HLAvRNUXMQ?si=sI6ZoRvz_IJQ1Y1O

Přijel do Kremlu, jednal s Putinem, překvapil Evropu, naštval Zelenského, zmizel v zahraničí, našli ho ve Vietnamu. Mise Moskva a Robert Fico. Pozoruhodná výprava, o které nikdo pořádně nic neví. Téma pro bývalého slovenského ministra zahraničí Rastislava Káčera. Ptá se Matěj Skalický.

Všechny díly podcastu Vinohradská 12 můžete pohodlně poslo...

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Here president Zelenskyii states that they offerend solution to gas transport crysis for Slovakia, but PM Fico ignored it:
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1878480879984791632?t=VDWkWi7IKr91l9Cl36gMig&s=19

Opene letter of PM Fico to president Zelendkyii and his reaction:
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1878848805069861174?t=GCBStogFuc1pPrPi1q02SQ&s=19

It’s good that Slovakia’s Prime Minister Fico has finally returned from his vacation at a luxurious hotel in Vietnam and is now in Bratislava. For him, personally, it must be challenging—switching from living in luxury to now trying to fix his own mistakes. It was an obvious

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Also, interesting fact is, that Czechia and other countries (sucessfully) sued Gazprom for stopped natural gas transit, Slovakia did nit to this day!

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Members of Fico's cabinet are spreading false claims, I would say literally lies, that Michal Simecka and his Progresivne Slovensko party delegation in Kyiv, made deal with president Zelenskyii that they will send Slovak army to fight in Ukraine once they take power.

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There have been several occasions when Fico, Gaspar, or Sutaj-Estok (leader of HLAS party) said it.

The status on the screenshit from Tibor Gaspar was meanwhile taken down.

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Also, main argument against protest this week is, that at least one third of protestors were Ukrainians 🙃

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Another SMER pairlament party member spreading lies about Simecka promissing to Zelenskyii that 🇸🇰 soldiers will fight in Ukraine. He even paid to promote it.

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So, by the time, Fico in December tried to convience Slovak citizens that Zelenskyii is attacking Slovak enerby sector, he already knew (or should knew) that the gas source is already signed.

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Slovakia: Fico loses majority in Parliament due to four “rebel” MPs

The votes available to the executive in the National Council therefore drop to 75, one seat less than what is needed to have a majority in the National Council (150 members).

https://www.agenzianova.com/en/news/slovacchia-fico-perde-la-maggioranza-in-parlamento-a-causa-di-quattro-deputati-ribelli/

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Slovakia: Fico loses majority in Parliament due to four "rebel" MPs Read all the latest news on Agenzia Nova

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Ah, I see this was already shared, forgive me. Somehow missed the messages after the most recent protest imagery

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I would not say he lost majority. Its still in progress, but there is a good chance he will not manage to get those 4 rebels back on board.

I would say, its 50:50 right now.

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Hlas vyhodil v piatok zo strany dvoch členov a zároveň poslancov Národnej rady – Samuela Migaľa a Radomíra Šalitroša, ktorí patria ku štvorici nespokojných poslancov Hlasu. Predseda strany Matúš Šutaj Eštok ich nazval vydieračmi a hovoril, že si pýtali vysoké štátne funkcie. Krok strany prišiel po tom, ako štvoricu poslancov…

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I would not call Banska Bystrica a Fico stronghold.

It was big stronghold of far-right leader Marian Kotleba (LSNS party), but since the new major of Banska Bystrica took mr. Lunter, jt went pro-democratic.

Ficos long term strongholds are Kysuce region (Cadca, Kysucke Nove Mesto) and Orava region (Namestovo, Dolny Kubin). Thats two regions in north-central Slovakia, close to Polish borders.

Than of course east rural parts like Bardejov, Svidnik, Humenne and so on..thats near the Polish and Ukraine border.

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Thank you for the explanation!

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Fico is trying to convience 🇸🇰 public that Georgian legion, the Ukrainian unit (which does not exist) is behind the protests, trying to make coup in Slovakia.

His evidence is weak, sometimes even funny. I am plannig to give more details, but dont have much time to put together all the links and newpaper links

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Slovakia is having so many protests, that someone created a web page, where you can easily see them organized.

https://protestuj.sk/

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Sledujte aktuálne protesty a verejné zhromaždenia, nielen na Slovensku. Buďte informovaní o dianí vo vašom meste.

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Slovak Government May Seek Kremlin Support to Suppress Protests

Unverified reports suggest that the delegation included members of Slovakia’s SIS intelligence agency, who held informal meetings with Russian military intelligence officials. During these meetings, the Slovaks allegedly received information on the foreign connections of opposition forces in Slovakia and perceived threats of a coup.

Agreements were reportedly reached for Moscow to deploy an operational team comprising officers from the mil intelligence and FSB to Slovakia. This team would establish a local headquarters to propose strategies for quelling anti-government protests, drawing on tactics previously used in Ukraine, Georgia, and Belarus. The operation is expected to be overseen by Nikolai Patrushev, a senior aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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There are growing fears that Russia may escalate its efforts to discredit opposition groups and tighten control over public dissent in Slovakia. The Kremlin could also seek to shift blame for unrest in Bratislava onto the United States and its allies, drawing parallels to the 2014 events in Kyiv.

To counter these risks, close monitoring of Russian military transport flights, particularly those involving the presidential flight detachment “Rossiya,” is deemed necessary. Such surveillance would help prevent the deployment of Russian special forces, including GRU units and Alpha and Vympel operatives, to Slovakia.

https://lansinginstitute.org/2025/01/27/slovak-government-may-seek-kremlin-support-to-suppress-protests/

Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico, alarmed by the growing likelihood of his ouster amid mass protests over his pro-Kremlin stance, is reportedly seeking

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apparently the institute has ties to US int, that might be a reason for not publishing its sources

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Gašpar senior indeed visited Moscow, might be resulf of confusion

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I have no data to prove it, but I feel like its bigger than the protests after Jan Kuciaks murder. Which were biggest protests in Slovakia until that time.

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Another case has unfolded this week. Ministry of ecology under Tomas Taraba is allegedly preparing mega project of hydro pump energy storage.

However, while having price tag ove 2 000 000 000 € and trying to mark it as stratecig investition. The information about this project was tried to be hidden for public. BUT the owners of properties could not be excluded (fortunately) and now they are alarming public, since if they manage to mark it as strategic investition, their properties will be expropriated. Which they obviously are not happy about.

What they are pointing at, is that this "strategic investition" gas no real research backing it.

https://x.com/gl_sk/status/1887843428551008722?t=WU_NrKo_FgrOSyh_LDbRMw&s=19

už aj na Podpoľaní vedia že Taraba nie je americká, ale pravá, nefalšovaná slovenská, čo? ;)

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One of the owners of the farm thats located nearby released this statement:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFvYF0vqD3u/?igsh=MWhxMW9id3lrNmdjNg==

Toto riešime posledné 2 dni, kedy sme sa náhodou dozvedeli, že naša časť obce má skončiť pod vodou kvôli nezmyselnému a extrémne predraženému projektu našej vlády.
Za zdieľanie, aby sa to dostalo k čo najviac ľuďom vám ďakujeme. 🙌 Budeme vám dávať ďalšie info.

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Today, I finnaly managed to be on protest myself, so photos and videos are coming late 🙂

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This is from Spišska Nova Ves, I was there personally, photo is mine:

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BTW city is litle bit missleading here, as there is no city in Slovakia, each Slovak town, invluding capital Bratislava is under 1 000 000 citizens 🙃

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# fair cypress This didn't come through, can you please give a description of what it is?

It was an intro clip from the Kyiv Independent for this video (which is the full length video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmCd7fCxuJg

Slovakia, a landlocked country on Ukraine’s western border, is undergoing a dramatic political shift under Prime Minister Robert Fico. Once a staunch supporter of NATO and the EU, Slovakia has now moved toward a pro-Russian stance, halting military aid to Ukraine and opposing EU sanctions against the Kremlin. As Fico meets with Russian dictator ...

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Weak protests today. Its fading. The government has not collapsed, but it has stabilized. Either some spark will emerge or the protests will end.

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Fico's cabinet is in very funky situation currently.

To "stabilize" the situation. Andrej Danko, leader of SNS party let his ministry posts go.

The new ministry of Sport will be one of Danko's rebelling members: Rudolf Huliak.

HOWEVER, as Huliak left pairlament, Ficos thin majority in pairlament 76/150 turned into minority 75/150.

And if they want to officially appoint Huliak's replacement into pairlament and name him representative. They need 76 representatives to open the session of pairlament. 🤭

But they have only 75, as 76th, Huliak, was already named a ministry, so he lost his representative function.

The Fico's cabinet member, call on oposition that: "it would be a shame if opposition did not allow to open pairlament session" 🤣 what a fools.

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Hello guys, I was not here for some time.

I felt like nothing important was happening. I mean, Slovakia is going through rough times, but there was no event that could nean important change in trajectory. We did know it will be rough once Fico went back.

However, today, I feel like I have to write something. Maybe no significant change of course of our cpuntry, but I feel, like inside of many people in Slovakia, today hapoened something.

Few weeks ago, another wave of Fico-Kamenicky cobsolidation hit 🇸🇰 public and one of the change was, that 17.November will be no bank holiday anymore.

17.November is very impoetant day for Slovakia. It is when CzechoSlovak revolution begun. It marked beginning of fall of communism in CzechoSlovakia.

However, many Slovak citizens did not give as much importance to this day, as it deservers. Honestly, it should be biggest holiday in 🇸🇰, like Independence day in US. But for us, it was "just another holiday".

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But I feel like Robert Fico changed it. Unintentionally, it backfired to him hard.

Few weeks ago, aa a part of another consolidation wave of Fico's cabinet, made by Laco Kamnicky, one of the changes was, 17.November is not bank hollidaya anymore.

Slovaks did not care about this day before. But in light of yet another co solidation that hit citizens economy situation hard, but did not decrease bad gov spending situation by tiny bit. Companies slowly started to give this day a day off to all emplyees, even if its not bank holliday. Very slowly, but big part of companies participated. As many as it became standard.

Protests by opposition were planned for this day long ago, but the expectations were not very high.

However, Fico managed to boost the crowd numbers shoetly before it happened.

The Fico vs. students debate in Poprad high school was cancelled, because students did write unpleasant notes on the walkway. Oficially because he was out of schedule.

But the student writting notes on walkway was filmed and eventually taken by police to police station for interrogations. Later that day he was released with no charges, but the story went viral already and there was nothing that cpuld be done to stop it at that point.

The debate took place this friday (I think it was friday). But it did not go as Fico planned. He was verbally attacking students from the position of power. Which they did not take and stood their grounds.

Videos from the debate were published and many of the adults did not like the way, how PM is talking to the youth. To their kids!

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As a result, Fico (in my opinion) managed to do, what many others before him failed. Unintentionally.

He managed to make 17.November important for big part of Slovak population, by trying to destroy it.

Todays protests were MASSIVE! There was a protest in every significant city in Slovakia.
Despite extremely bad weather: heavy rain, temperatures coming close to zero °C and strong north wind, 50 000 people in Bratisla alone went out and stood against Fico and his government!

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Let me share some links. I intentionally avoid politicans accounts. Will post only from ordinafy people who were there.