winter linden Jul 28, 2020, 1:17 AM

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FYI @muted gale in addition to the main channel (this one), there is also #help-old-do-not-post where we discuss Cue itself in depth in the context of Blocklayer and IaC. Marcel is here as well as several core Cue developers.

muted gale Jul 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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oh sick
I need to figure out the state of docker on WSL then I can start playing around with blocklayer

winter linden Jul 28, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Last I heard, Docker works very well with WSL. Docker and Microsoft have always been good partners

muted gale Jul 28, 2020, 11:16 PM

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That was a journey, but I got docker working working in my WSL
I need to update windows more

winter linden Jul 29, 2020, 12:33 AM

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@muted gale were you able to activate your BL account?

muted gale Jul 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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I needed to figure out docker first
I think the login failed when I tried b/c of that

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or that might be bl up

muted gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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@winter linden when after logging in through the browser I get failure since it tries to open a port on localhost
http://localhost:38932/callback?code=08ed38a0-7a96-43c4-aad7-bed79547aa24&state=38c36e81a8e95638f0a102df0403927c5d6c62ed70ce280f54d77110cabbecef

Unsure if this is b/c of WSL but it should be able to connect if it is listening

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I think b/c it errors here it the process is not available to listen after the login:

info Logging into your Blocklayer account...
info Opening ...
fatal exec: "xdg-open": executable file not found in $PATH```

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I think that opens the browser, so it should direct the user to open the link manually continue to listen for the login callback

muted gale Jul 29, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Unclear to me whether I can use the local agent without logging in first

winter linden Jul 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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correct, you need to login first

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printing the link so it can be open manually is a good idea

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another thing you can do, with the current version, is generate an API key

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you can run bl apikey create once on a session where auto-opening a browser will work; then pass the key with bl --api-key which will not require a browser

muted gale Jul 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Oh yeah that sounds like a good fallback
Ill try to unblock myself with that

For the login flow, other than priniting the link for manual navigation I think displaying the token so that it can be pasted back into the terminal would help as well. I actually do significant amount of development on remote machines where I would not have bl listening on my localhost. Need to way to login with that scenario as well. I remember the concourse CI CLI having that kind of flow

winter linden Jul 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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(I think setting BL_API_KEY as an env variable will also work)

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Oh yeah that sounds like a good fallback
Ill try to unblock myself with that

For the login flow, other than priniting the link for manual navigation I think displaying the token so that it can be pasted back into the terminal would help as well. I actually do significant amount of development on remote machines where I would not have bl listening on my localhost. Need to way to login with that scenario as well. I remember the concourse CI CLI having that kind of flow

Yeah you're not the first one to encounter this. We will fix it.

muted gale Jul 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

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nice

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Ill try the API token for now

muted gale Jul 30, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I was able to workaround the login with an API key, thanks

muted gale Jul 30, 2020, 5:27 AM

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bl domain claim google.com                                        
success Successfully claimed domain google.com

bl domain delete google.com 
success Successfully deleted domain google.com

Was curious if this would work lol

winter linden Jul 30, 2020, 7:41 AM

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ha ha 🙂

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yeah at the moment there is no ownership check on a domain

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(but claiming a domain yields no particular privilege of course)

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@muted gale to make it easier to develop a configuration from scratch, we implement a local mode: see bl local

muted gale Jul 30, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Hmm, hitting some issue when following the advanced usage docs:

╰─ bl push cedriccharly.com 
fatal build constraints exclude all CUE files in . (ignored: example.cue)

Unclear to me what this error means

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Oh I bet I need to set up the domain first
Should not have skipped to a CUE example

patent fox Jul 30, 2020, 9:22 AM

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That error manifest in a number of situations, most commonly where you have a cue.mod defined but the .cue file(s) does not have a package clause at the top

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So in this case I would guess example.cue doesn't have a package clause

muted gale Jul 30, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Oh, when I copy/pasted the example vim cut off the first few letters so it only had ckage at the top of the file

gusty thorn Jul 31, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Hello !

winter linden Jul 31, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Howdy @gusty thorn 🙂

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I'm guessing you caught that final notice on the Telegram group?

gusty thorn Aug 1, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Yeah! Also I have been thinking about you lately, I feel like a bunch of things at my new job could be nicer with something like CUE.

winter linden Aug 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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You've come to the right place 🙂

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We have a new demo to show you

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Warning: it may give you dotCloud deja-vu

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TLDR dotcloud control plane + runs on your own infra + write your own services in cue

winter linden Aug 1, 2020, 2:54 AM

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(invitation open to anyone else who wishes to see the demo of course)

muted gale Aug 3, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Is blocklayer in stealth mode rn or is this something I can talk about publicly?

wraith niche Aug 3, 2020, 8:31 PM

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kind of in between 🙂 talking about it to other people is fine but it would be better not to write about it in a blog post. It'll be much better/more interesting when we launch the beta.

muted gale Aug 3, 2020, 8:38 PM

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That sounds reasonable
I was thinking this would be a good tweet to respond to, but I will hold off: https://twitter.com/marcosnils/status/1290356751846592512

Marcos Nils (@marcosnils)

@alexandrosM @ibuildthecloud Any references to projects using cue in an interesting way?

winter linden Sep 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@urban cliff all your Cue questions this week are making me curious about what you're building 🙂

winter linden Sep 5, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Welcome @red spruce ! Feel free to ask any devops-related questions here, this is basically devops nerd central. And let us know when you're ready for a demo of Blocklayer 🙂

red spruce Sep 5, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Thanks, @winter linden! Good to be here. Hi everyone 👋🏾

winter linden Sep 24, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Heads up we're doing a live deployment session here. @fallow bloom is deploying 2 apps to https://vercel.com (serverless JS platform) and take notes on the experience as a deployment beginner. Vercel is probably in the top 5 best deployment UX today, and we want our beta release to be that way too.

Develop. Preview. Ship. For the best frontend teams – Vercel

Deploy web projects with the best frontend developer experience and highest end-user performance.

red spruce Sep 24, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Nice

winter linden Sep 24, 2020, 5:21 PM

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So @fallow bloom if you have any question along the way just ask them here, this is a channel about devops & deployment 🙂

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Maybe someone here already has hands-on experience with Vercel? Otherwise we'll learn it together

fallow bloom Sep 24, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Okay sure thing, thank you!@winter linden

winter linden Sep 24, 2020, 5:22 PM

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( Vercel is the new name of Now I think)

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Their quickstart guides are looking good 🤤 https://vercel.com/docs#quickstarts

Vercel Documentation

Introduction to Vercel - Vercel Documentation

An introduction to the Vercel platform and how to get started deploying any kind of application.

winter linden Sep 24, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Looks like the deployment worked 🙂

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-09-24_at_11.51.22_AM.png

fallow bloom Sep 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Oh wow 🤩😁

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GREAT thanks for trying it out lol

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 2:06 AM

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@fallow bloom do you have a screenshot of the errors you’re getting?

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 2:33 AM

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I’m out grocery shopping at the moment I will send you a screenshot of them when I get to the office

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 4:12 AM

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This is the error that’s coming up

📎 image0.jpg

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 4:37 AM

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@fallow bloom is that on the vercel deployment? Or running locally on your laptop?

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 4:38 AM

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From the vercel @winter linden

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 4:42 AM

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It looks like your app is trying to connect to something (I guess your API?) on localhost, which is what it’s supposed to do on your laptop, but when deploying it won’t work; you need to configure your deployed app to connect to your deployed backend.

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basically your app still thinks it’s running on your laptop (I think)

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Okay I will figure this out 🤔

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Which guide did you follow on the vercel documentation?

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 5:10 AM

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The one that they have on vercel

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Did you use one of the quickstarts? There’s a bunch of them: https://vercel.com/docs#quickstarts

Vercel Documentation

Introduction to Vercel - Vercel Documentation

An introduction to the Vercel platform and how to get started deploying any kind of application.

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 5:14 AM

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No I was never informed on a QuickStart I was only following the instructions Thinkful gave me

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Can you share the link to what they sent you? If I understand the steps you followed so far it will help figure out what you shod do next

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Okay I’ll send it to you

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https://courses.thinkful.com/node-postgres-v1/checkpoint/20

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I’m not sure if your going to be able to access it.

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 5:29 AM

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no unfortunately

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Figured... maybe tomorrow I can screen share on a zoom call or something so we can look at it together

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

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sounds good

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Thanks for the help so far appreciate it 😊

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

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You’re welcome, you are also helping me by sharing your real-world deployment experience. We want to learn from other deployment product’s mistakes for Blocklayer.

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 8:17 PM

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📎 image.png

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@fallow bloom this is what I was talking about yesterday 👆

fallow bloom Sep 25, 2020, 8:22 PM

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🤔🤔

winter linden Sep 25, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I think the error yesterday was because this step had not been done, or something went wrong when you did it: 2. Update the React client with the URL of the server.

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If everything works now, it means you probably followed that step correctly which fixed it

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So now your React client (running on Vercel) can fetch data correctly from your server (running on Heroku)

fallow bloom Sep 26, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Yes that’s correct

cunning yacht Oct 11, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Hi Devs, is there a way to view currently deployed workflows from the UI with the bl trial version?

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I'm refreshing my workflows and the I can see alot has changed in the past few months

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Weird bl error. I thought this was because I was configured behind a VPN, but different workarounds don't seem to work

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-10-10_at_6.49.22_PM.png

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I configured the BL_API_SERVER to http://localhost:8080 and that didn't do the trick. I'm curious if there's something here I'm doing wrong

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apparently the local command is deprecated 😦

📎 Screen_Shot_2020-10-10_at_6.53.06_PM.png

winter linden Oct 12, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Hi @cunning yacht ! Just emerging from international travel. I will look into your error in a little bit

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So you’re right that bl local is deprecated in the upcoming Beta release (more on that soon!). But the alpha release is stil available, and bl local should work just fine with that.

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So I’m guessing that you are using the wrong version of the bl command. That may be our fault, I’m not sure. Can you share details on the version you are using?

What is the output of bl version ?
When did you last update your bl installation?

Thanks & sorry for the rough user experience!

winter linden Oct 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@cunning yacht looks like you have an alpha version of bl, but not the latest, which explains that bl local is not available. If you update to the latest alpha, it should resolve the problem.

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Here are the update instructions: https://alpha-3.blocklayerhq.com/getting-started.html#local-machine-setup

Getting Started | Blocklayer

fallow bloom Oct 12, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Hey Solomon I know it’s getting pretty close to the dead line. And Sydnee’s been pretty stressed so I think I’m ready to step and help out with the project.

winter linden Oct 12, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Sounds good 👍

wraith niche Oct 12, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Important: if anyone gets authentication issues on alpha-3, please upgrade the CLI to the latest version: https://alpha-3.blocklayerhq.com/getting-started.html#local-machine-setup. If you have any issues, let us know

Getting Started | Blocklayer

winter linden Oct 12, 2020, 9:53 PM

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If you are curious why there is more activity here all of a sudden, it's because we are getting ready for beta 🙂

cunning yacht Oct 14, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Thanks @winter linden I'll get on this later today

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I think I'm on the latest bl version

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authenticated multiple times thinking it must have been a expired auth token, still did not work

wraith niche Oct 15, 2020, 12:06 AM

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hey @cunning yacht, can you confirm you use the latest version? We rolled out a breaking change on the auth 2 days ago that requires you to run the latest cli. If then you try bl logout and bl login, let me know what you have.

cunning yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:53 PM

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@wraith niche my version is 9c2a9b45 I just updated this last week

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I'll try those changes and see if it fixes it

winter linden Oct 15, 2020, 7:53 PM

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@cunning yacht we pushed a newer version after you reported your issue this week. So if you’re having issues authenticating, that might be why.

cunning yacht Oct 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I shared the version number above

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I'm trying to reinstall a new version of bl to see if it fixes this issue

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Another thing is the docs will need to be updated with this update

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Thanks @wraith niche @winter linden it works now, I can see bl fetching the containers now

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info fetching latest version of containers
info starting the containers
Creating network "bl_default" with the default driver
Creating bl-registry ... error

ERROR: for bl-registry  Cannot start service registry: Ports are not available: listen tcp 0.0.0.0:5001: bind: address already in use

ERROR: for registry  Cannot start service registry: Ports are not available: listen tcp 0.0.0.0:5001: bind: address already in use
ERROR: Encountered errors while bringing up the project.

fatal cannot start the local environment: exit status 1```

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here is the error message

wraith niche Oct 15, 2020, 8:26 PM

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hey @cunning yacht, looking at the error now. It seems the port 5001 is already used on your local machine (host machine). It's not possible to tweak those ports at the moment, sorry... If you find out which process is binding on 5001 and stop it, then run bl local up, it should work as expected. Let me know what you get.

wraith niche Nov 9, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Welcome @modern rampart 👋

modern rampart Nov 12, 2020, 4:06 AM

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hey guys, having some errors pop up on a basic RDS creation

The maximum number of addresses has been reached. (Service: AmazonEC2; Status Code: 400; Error Code: AddressLimitExceeded; )

wraith niche Nov 12, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Hey @modern rampart, let me check that

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looks like an elastic ip limit that you reached on your account. What does your stack look like? Only RDS? It would make more sense for ECS to raise since it provisions 2 ec2 instance for the cluster. I am checking if rds needs an EIP

modern rampart Nov 12, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I only have 5 EIPs created

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hm

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Will dm w/ larger logs if you want?

wraith niche Nov 12, 2020, 4:11 AM

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the limit is per region. I had a very very low limit for my certs for instances (10) despite aws saying the default was 1000. It's very possible you have a very small limit for EIP. Increasing the quota is very simple.

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Will dm w/ larger logs if you want?
yes please, it would help confirm my guess

wraith niche Nov 12, 2020, 4:27 AM

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update for anyone interested in the issue: there is a default limit of 5 ec2-VPC elastic IP per AWS region by default, and blocklayer allocates 2 for the NAT gateway for AWS-components. Asking a quota increase is needed if you encounter that error.

modern rampart Nov 12, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Having an issue logging into the CLI, won't let me even though the PW is correct

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info Opening https://blocklayer.auth.us-west-2.amazoncognito.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=44tbd1f9754vs8dvc9nt5d5v7n&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost%3A38932%2Fcallback&response_type=code&scope=openid&state=3e70ed959efd00e6c9a45c942d18687d14f58f414b964e70f04b0240a8128fb4

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Tried uninstalling/reinstalling, no-go

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If I try to reset password, I get this error "Could not reset password for the account, please contact support or try again"

wraith niche Nov 12, 2020, 9:15 PM

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hey @modern rampart, checking this now.

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@modern rampart can you give me a bl version output, looks like you have an old version

wraith niche Nov 20, 2020, 2:14 AM

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⚠️ CLI update - the syntax changed for pushing source code to a component

Example with a component named web:
Old syntax: bl push web ./
New syntax: bl push web=./

This now allows atomic changes when pushing multiple sources: eg. bl push backend=./code/api web=./code/web

wraith niche Nov 25, 2020, 5:25 PM

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There is a current outage on AWS Cognito and some authentication queries from Blocklayer are timing out. When this happens, both the cli and dashboard are unaccessible. We're tracking the issue and will update the status here.

wraith niche Nov 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

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The service is back, everything should work now. Although the issue is not resolved on the AWS side, so some errors may happen again.

winter linden Dec 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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FYI it’s AWS Reinvent today, Corey is live-tweeting it here: https://twitter.com/quinnypig/status/1333797449685553153

Corey Quinn (@QuinnyPig)

Good morning, and welcome to Day One of #reinvent.

This is my #requinnvent summary / livetweet / nonsense event, and this thread will cover @ajassy's 3 hour keynote this morning.

Likes

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winter linden Dec 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Relevant: https://twitter.com/quinnypig/status/1333815018387763206

Corey Quinn (@QuinnyPig)

Ooh, you can now run @awscloud ECS in your own data center with Amazon ECS Anywhere. #reinvent

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We’ve pretty much defaulted to ECS to run containers on the Blocklayer “starter stack”

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This is cool too: https://twitter.com/quinnypig/status/1333816368441921537

Corey Quinn (@QuinnyPig)

Oh no. The line between Fargate and Lambda just got very confusing and blurry. #reinvent

HOLD MY TEA, I'MMA ONE-UP MY ROUTE 53 DATABASE!

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And a little bit of competition for Blocklayer 🙂 https://aws.amazon.com/proton/

Amazon Web Services, Inc.

AWS Proton | Fully Managed Application Deployment Service | Amazon ...

Manage your application deployments for container and serverless applications, enforce standards, and improve developer productivity with AWS Proton.

drifting crown Dec 1, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Proton's problem statement seems pretty close to BL's messaging indeed, but the templating format looks meh (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/proton/latest/adminguide/ag-svc-template-bundles.html)

wraith niche Dec 1, 2020, 7:30 PM

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cloudformation yaml + jinja templating. Meh, indeed

turbid tulip Dec 1, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Yeah. Blech.

ruby spoke Dec 1, 2020, 7:36 PM

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God, as if yaml was not already enough 🤢 by itself

winter linden Dec 1, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Container support for lambda is a great feature, I’m sure it will help grow Lambda usage even faster. It’s also great for Blocklayer, because the more you use Lambda or other FAAS, the less you can rely on traditional app platforms to deliver everything. If you use lambda you’re going to want to glue it together with other stuff.

winter linden Dec 2, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Congratulations @grim dawn for graduating!!!!! Well deserved.

red spruce Dec 2, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Whoo! I missed that. Congratulations @grim dawn

winter linden Dec 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Welcome @swift barn 🙂

winter linden Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Turns out people have a lot of opinion on PaaS, who knew??? https://twitter.com/solomonstre/status/1336160531258855424?s=21

Solomon Hykes (@solomonstre)

So, PaaS... what happened?

soft jay Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 PM

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dotcloud 2.0?? 😉

grim dawn Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 PM

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red spruce Whoo! I missed that. Congratulations <@582389382846218240>

thanks kema!! game time now 😅

winter linden Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 PM

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soft jay dotcloud 2.0?? 😉

TIme will tell 😇

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I will say that Docker was meant to be an amplifier of Dotcloud. We wanted them to be more than the sum of their parts. But we never got around to that.

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And nobody else did either

soft jay Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 PM

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very interesting - I do remember when we first started working on Fuzzbuzz, we didn't want to build/manage infra - we just wanted to put our dockerfiles on something that just ran docker but couldnt find anything (app engine took 30+ mins for 2 containers, heroku docker support is ehh) - wouldve been interesting to see a platform for docker like you mention

winter linden Dec 8, 2020, 7:30 PM

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soft jay very interesting - I do remember when we first started working on Fuzzbuzz, we d...

What does your current deployment stack look like?

soft jay Dec 9, 2020, 1:44 AM

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hmm - much more complex than it used to be, but we try to keep it as simple as possible. We deploy debian VMs that just run our go binaries. We pull updates from a private package server we update directly from github actions. all of this sits behind nginx, and i think we also use rds. I think thats about it - postgres, nginx, go and of course docker 🙂

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not as close to that side of things as I used to be though

wraith niche Dec 9, 2020, 1:52 AM

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soft jay hmm - much more complex than it used to be, but we try to keep it as simple as p...

@soft jay it would be nice to do a quick call for discovery and also if you're interested to see a demo of the blocklayer Beta

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🚀 Released today: new provider for Heroku. Now you can include containers/heroku apps to the rest of your BL Stack

soft jay Dec 9, 2020, 1:54 AM

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haha we're on AWS now, but sure - I'm up for a call

wraith niche Dec 9, 2020, 1:55 AM

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well, we support ECS and RDS as well right now 🙂

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basically with BL you assemble your PaaS on your own infra

wraith niche Dec 9, 2020, 1:56 AM

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soft jay haha we're on AWS now, but sure - I'm up for a call

here is the link: https://calendly.com/blocklayer/demo

Calendly

Meeting with Blocklayer team - Blocklayer

Schedule a demo of Blocklayer.

soft jay Dec 9, 2020, 1:57 AM

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🤔 interesting - I hadn't thought of it that way. I'll pick a time

winter linden Dec 9, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Yeah the BL philosophy is: build a paas on top of what you have. Then you can change it in a million ways later, very easily - and everyone keeps the same tools to deploy

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so if you run binaries in VMs today, then your BL paas would run the same binaries on the same VMs. Until you decide to change, which BL helps you do easily

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So you get the productivity benefits of a paas without the cost or rearchitecturing your stack

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The current generation of paas cannot do this because they are not programmable

soft jay Dec 9, 2020, 2:07 AM

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interesting - I'm really curious to see what this looks like in practice.

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Also, I made the call for Friday and added Everest + an engineer but realized they can't do friday - I'll cancel that and pick another time - sorry!

wraith niche Dec 9, 2020, 2:16 AM

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no problem, you have a reschedule link in calendly

coarse hatch Dec 12, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Hi, I'm interested in experiments of a build definition syntax in cue. Is there some code somewhere I can look at?

winter linden Dec 12, 2020, 11:53 PM

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we’re going to open-source our own def soon

coarse hatch Dec 12, 2020, 11:54 PM

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i'm more just interested in the syntax itself, brainstorming about it

winter linden Dec 12, 2020, 11:54 PM

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so you can look at the whole code soon 🙂

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you can look at the current (alpha3/beta1) syntax in github.com/stackbrew/stackbrew but we are making major changes in the next (soon to be open-sourced) version

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in alpha-3 the only supported build is via dockerfile. In next version you can hit the full buildkit API , complete other end of the spectrum 🙂

swift barn Dec 16, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Hello awesome Blocklayer team!

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I very recently got an invite to Blocklayer beta, thank you for that 🙏

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unfortunately I can't login as I'm getting an error incorrect username / password combination

wraith niche Dec 16, 2020, 4:24 PM

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hey @swift barn, I'll set you a new pwd manually. I will pm the new one.

swift barn Dec 16, 2020, 4:25 PM

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thx!

wraith niche Dec 16, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@swift barn in case you need to chat another day: https://calendly.com/samalba

Calendly

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Welcome to my scheduling page. Please follow the instructions to add an event to my calendar.

wraith niche Dec 22, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Just saw this: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/12/amazon-ecs-announces-the-general-availability-of-ecs-deployment-circuit-breaker/ - it'll greatly improve the deployment error handling on our ECS provider

Amazon Web Services, Inc.

Amazon ECS announces the general availability of ECS Deployment Cir...

winter linden Dec 23, 2020, 2:11 AM

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@urban cliff I found the cause of the error. “copy” was indeed not implemented...

winter linden Dec 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

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winter linden <@709546213388845056> I found the cause of the error. “copy” was indeed not impl...

update: “copy” is now implemented 🙂 Your example config works.

urban cliff Dec 23, 2020, 3:59 AM

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👍

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Thanks for the demo today guys. Cool stuff ;-).

winter linden Jan 1, 2021, 7:17 PM

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Happy new year everyone, thank you all for investing your time in testing the many iterations of Blocklayer prototypes. Your feedback was invaluable. We promise to finally launch this year :)

I wish you all happiness and good health.

cold river Jan 5, 2021, 2:04 PM

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winter linden Happy new year everyone, thank you all for investing your time in testing the ma...

You're welcome, and you know, Blocklayer will certainly help us to launch this year too! 😬 ✨

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:20 PM

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happy new year blocklayer !

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 2:39 PM

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today I managed to start my api server in a blocklayer stack 🙂 small victories \o/
now to clone the stack in order to rename it let's just say I wasn't thinking clearly when I created the stack

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:06 PM

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anyone used bl set around here ?

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what should the value look like ?

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:06 PM

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@swift barn I have 🙂

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:06 PM

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bl set <component> <key> [value] [flags]

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:06 PM

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It's the json representation of the key

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You can see what it looks like using bl get

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:08 PM

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 bl get -S backend -E staging
{
    "Component": {
        "api": {
            "Settings": {
                "Settings": {
                    "autoProvisionInfrastructure": true,
                    "awsConfig": {
                        "accessKey": {
                            "value": "redacted"
                        },
                        "region": "eu-west-3",
                        "secretKey": {
                            "value": "readacted"
                        }
                    },
                    "cluster": {},
                    "container": {
                        "dockerBuildArgs": {},
                        "dockerfilePath": "api/Dockerfile",
                        "healthCheckPath": "/api",
                        "healthCheckTimeout": 10,
                        "memory": 512,
                        "port": 3000
                    },
                    "environment": {},
                    "initContainer": {
                        "environment": {
                            "ANALYTICS_KEY": "",
                            "ANALYTICS_SERVER_SECRET": "",
                            "ENV": "",
                            "FIREBASE_CLIENT_EMAIL": "",
                            "FIREBASE_PRIVATE_KEY": "",
                            "MAILJET_API_KEY": "",
                            "MAILJET_NL_API_KEY": "",
                            "MAILJET_SECRET_KEY": "",
                            "PASSPORT_SECRET": "",
                            "STRIPE_ENDPOINT_SECRET": "",
                            "STRIPE_PRIVATE_KEY": ""
                        }
                    }
                }
            },
            "ComponentDomain": "backend-399-api.microstaging.io",
            "ComponentName": "api",
            "EnvName": "staging",
            "EnvSlug": "staging-863",
            "StackSlug": "backend-399"
        }
    }
}

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I thought this would let me set individual envionment variables like I don in the website

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but now I'm not sure what a key is 🙂

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

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It's the key within the json -- in this case there'a s environment in Settings

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

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should I try to set Component.api.Settings.environment

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:10 PM

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So bl set api environment '{"foo": "bar"}'

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I think Component.api.Settings is implied

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:11 PM

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ok

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Let me double check something

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I think though you should be able to do that from the dashboard directly

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I wish it would take a file 🙂 my "value" is quite large

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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Are you trying to set this for a stack or an environment?

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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I am trying to set 15 environment variables

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for an env

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:12 PM

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If you click on the environment then Settings -> API, there should be an environment thing you can change

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Oh I see

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So you'd rather do that from the CLI at once

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

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I hoped I could script it to avoid setting them one by one 🙂

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

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yeah yeah

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:13 PM

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cloud canyon So `bl set api environment '{"foo": "bar"}'`

this should work then

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:15 PM

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I did it in 2 steps

foo=$(jq -rc '.Component.api.Settings.environment' env.staging)
bl set api environment $foo  -S backend -E staging

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I am "renaming" a stack (so dumping config from the initial one, creating the new one, reloading config)

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:16 PM

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Oh I see

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You should be able to do that with bl get api > api.settings, then bl install api ecs -f api.settings

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Well, bl install is for the stack, not the environment

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:17 PM

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yes I did that for the stack

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and now I'm configuring the envs 🙂

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:18 PM

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Yeah I see 🙂 Then what you're doing is the right way

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:19 PM

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though i used bl get --stack-admin --stack staging | jq .Component.api

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to get the component settings

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error Change failed: bl.Directory "context" is not concrete
the bl set failed 😦

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oh yeah ! i need to push the code

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of course

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:20 PM

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You would need to bl push

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yep 🙂

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:21 PM

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🤦‍♂️

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something didn't go that well : error Change failed: Component.api.run.infra.ecsAMI.environment.AWS_DEFAULT_REGION: failed to resolve task command: Component.api.run.infra.ecsAMI.environment.AWS_DEFAULT_REGION: non-concrete value string

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on the push

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:34 PM

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uhm, let me check ...

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:34 PM

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it's kind of weird :
bl get --stack-admin --stack backend
correctly lists the component with the aws credentials

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:34 PM

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Looks like the region is missing

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:35 PM

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but in the website the credentials are missing

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:35 PM

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swift barn something didn't go that well : error Change failed: Component.api.run.infra.ecs...

@wraith niche ^^^ this was reinstalled "manually"

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is it possible we don't do proper config checks on CLI installs?

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:36 PM

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swift barn but in the website the credentials are missing

I'm guessing the CLI install went wrong

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like, maybe a different key was set

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Do you have the command you used?

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:36 PM

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I assume the bl install from the settings.json didn't pick up the credentials that were dumped

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yes and the files

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Yes the cli install does not check that the settings are concrete. You’re missing an arg in the aws config.

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Maybe install the same component from the dashboard and compare the get with your set payload

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You’ll see what differs

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Based on what is missing (e.g. complaining about the region, but also you cannot see the credentials on the website), I would think maybe all settings are missing

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As in, maybe they were set under the wrong key? Since we don't do type checking on the CLI it's possible

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:38 PM

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bl install --stack backend api ecs -f component.json

📎 component.json

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:39 PM

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@wraith niche does the json file need to have a Settings key at the top? I don't remember

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@swift barn if you do a bl get --stack-admin, what do you see under Settings?

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Like, do they look alright, or do you see "Settings: Settings: { ..."

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:41 PM

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yes

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#general message

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?

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I can't do that querynow : I used the website to force the values in the mean time sorry

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Oh yes great, thanks

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:43 PM

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but the bl get was returning things I redacted the secrets manually

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Yep, our fault for not validating

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:43 PM

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they were present and correct

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:43 PM

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You can see in the settings above it shows up as "Settings: { Settings: {"

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(see the extra "Settings" embedded)

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bl install takes a settings file as an input, there's no need to have "Settings: {" inside that file

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In this case, it created one giant setting named "Settings"

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:44 PM

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hmm looks like i'll have to redo this 🙂

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ok

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I'll fix it after my meeting 🙂

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 3:44 PM

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Sorry about that 🙂

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 3:45 PM

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no problem

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 4:58 PM

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so I deleted the component and the env using the website

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I recreated the component after updating the json to have the expected shape

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I recreated the env and its values

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I tried to push the code

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new error :
error Change failed: failed to execute task: failed to solve: rpc error: code = Unknown desc = illegal base64 data at input byte 8

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 5:00 PM

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weird, secrets looks invalid, can you share your config in pv?

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 5:02 PM

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invalid secret is a much better error message 🙂

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I manually updated my settings file to redact the secrets before uploading it to discord

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promptly forgot and used the file with redacted secrets to recreate the component

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I was sure I updated them through the website but looks like not

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 5:03 PM

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Ha! Good, that's an easy fix 🙂

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 5:04 PM

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not so fast captain'

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this time I am certain I updated them through the website

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and when I bl get --stack-admin -S backend

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I still get the old ones

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 5:06 PM

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weird

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not a mix of new and old? (e.g. they got set to another key)

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 5:07 PM

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nop I only get the old

cloud canyon Jan 5, 2021, 5:08 PM

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Can you try to do a get, then set the secret to anything else through the dashboard, then get again?

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 5:10 PM

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I created a component and did that : the second get returns the same as the first (and I can't share it right now cuz I used the fixed file with my actual secrets in it so the get returns my secrets 🙂 )

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 5:26 PM

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ok I forgot to click on update in the bottom right when editing my component sorry about that

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I deleted the old stack through the dashboard

dropped all the components
dropped all the envs
deleted the agent
deleted the stack
in that order, however the ec2 instances running the stack were not removed

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the stacks ecs cluster is also still there

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 5:59 PM

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I think I managed to track most of the resources there may be leftover vpcs and nat gateways and stuff

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just to confirm:

for each stack I get an ecs cluster with its own set of resources (network, disk, instances etc)
all envs within the same stack are deployed on the same cluster but with different settings

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so creating a new env on an existing stack is "free" only increases pressure on existing cluster but if the cluster has enough capacity that's not an issue

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I intend to use BL to trigger auto deployment of test environments from gitlab ci, my current plan is to create a new environment with a name derived from the branch name
ideally I would be able to easily "clone" a reference environment if the env doesn't exist (I haven't looked into it yet but I think I can achieve that using bl cli)
now I have to find a way to delete the env once the MR is merged to avoid polluting my stack with hundreds of leftover envs 🙂

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 8:22 PM

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my first attempt at cloning an env to create another env

📎 clone_env.sh

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I tried to set the custom domain too through the dashboard but it failed

info Fetching logs for change-id 1af34633-80d7-4d18-9301-306218645227
error Change failed: component "" has incomplete Settings: cue compile: Component.api.#ECRImage.buildImage.context: structural cycle
Component.api.#ECRImage.buildImage.image: structural cycle
Component.api.#ECRImage.ecrCreds.build.image: structural cycle
Component.api.#ECRIma

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 8:51 PM

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swift barn just to confirm: - for each stack I get an ecs cluster with its own set of reso...

yes it's correct

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 8:51 PM

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swift barn so creating a new env on an existing stack is "free" only increases pressure on ...

also correct, you'll need to increase the size of cluster if you end up reaching the limit of running tasks on the ECS cluster

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every env generates a cloudformation stack for the container running and associated resources (ecs service, task definition, lb target group, etc...), so if you delete that stack, it'll cleanup all resources associated with the env. Not perfect, but it's a stopgap until we support auto-destroy.

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 8:53 PM

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swift barn I tried to set the custom domain too through the dashboard but it failed ``` in...

I think @jolly plank had this error as well before. I was tracking to track this. What comment did you run? Just a push / apply?

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 8:54 PM

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wraith niche I think <@!319581008594993154> had this error as well before. I was tracking to ...

I simply defined the custom domain for my env through the dashboard

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 8:57 PM

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ok, I think you trigger a race condition that is unrelated to custom domain. I think if you retry it should go through. I still need to fix this race though...

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 8:58 PM

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swift barn I simply defined the custom domain for my env through the dashboard

for custom domain, the first apply will generate a certificate and you'll receive an email to validate it. The apply will fail saying the cert is not validated. Just validate the cert from the email received and re-apply, it'll work.

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:00 PM

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wraith niche for custom domain, the first apply will generate a certificate and you'll receiv...

hmm I did not receive an email but that my be because my domain is not hosted at aws and it used CAA (which I discovered when I tried to manually create the certificate)
i'll delete what I created manually and retry

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 9:02 PM

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even if the dns is not on route53, you still need a tls cert on your aws LB, that's why it goes through this generation. AWS usually send emails to "admin@yourdomain.com" or "postmaster@yourdomain.com". If there is no MX on the domain, you may need to generate one manually in the corresponding region, with validation type "DNS". I can show you how to do from the console, then you'll have a txt record to add to your domain so aws can create the cert.

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:04 PM

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I think it failed because of the CAA records which did not list aws as a trusted emitter

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I'm cleaning up to retry

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:45 PM

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https://preview.staging.yupwego.com/api

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yay

winter linden Jan 5, 2021, 9:45 PM

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awesome 🙂

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:46 PM

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now I'm going to play tester and try some dumb things 🙂

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 9:47 PM

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I thought you did already!

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😄

winter linden Jan 5, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Oh NOW you’re going to play tester? 😄

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:47 PM

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well ... until now I was simply failing to follow normal behaviour

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now I tried something really risky ... and it seems I did break everything 🙂

winter linden Jan 5, 2021, 9:48 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/demolition-crash-building-gif-12198745

Tenor

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“I’m just going to test a few things”

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:48 PM

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exactly

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it took exactly one try 🙂

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 9:48 PM

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fyi, I am testing the ecs circuit breaker right now, so the container crash loop on error should disappear. Ecs will auto-rollback...

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:49 PM

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wraith niche fyi, I am testing the ecs circuit breaker right now, so the container crash loop...

that sounds great, make sure to check on an initial deployment where the container doesn't work so there is nothing to rollback to :p

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since sam said there are no wildcard domains anymore, I tried to bypass that by using a wildcard domain in my env's custom domain

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it sees the dashboard didn't like my idea :p

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oh its back (maybe it was just a small outage)

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damn, it looks like sam really didn't want us to use wildcards : in the validation email I got, the *. wilcard prefix was stripped

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oh but in the cert manager the wildcard is there !

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 9:55 PM

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well you can still add a wildcard manually to the LB, I don't think BL will mess with it

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:55 PM

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no but it will likely stil ask me to validate for the new domain I create right ?

wraith niche Jan 5, 2021, 9:57 PM

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actually yes, but those certs are free. You can still validate it and use the wildcard instead.

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 9:58 PM

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i'll try that in about 18 minutes 🙂

winter linden Jan 5, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ouch

swift barn Jan 5, 2021, 10:42 PM

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wraith niche actually yes, but those certs are free. You can still validate it and use the wi...

the I can still validate works
not sure how to use the wildcard instead but that's going to be for another day

wraith niche Jan 6, 2021, 2:31 AM

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swift barn I tried to set the custom domain too through the dashboard but it failed ``` in...

I fixed this race condition, it should not happen anymore. Let me know if it does. Also the circuit breaker (preventing container crash loop on ECS) is live. It will auto-enable on your next bl apply.

wraith niche Jan 8, 2021, 12:59 AM

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We just released a new Agent version that increases stability on code deploys. It should remove most of the intermittent errors.
We also released a new CLI yesterday that improves the error readability and overall logging. Feedback welcome!

swift barn Jan 11, 2021, 8:08 PM

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just saw the popup warning of unsaved settings tonight 👍

robust quartz Jan 18, 2021, 9:38 AM

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👋

swift barn Jan 18, 2021, 9:10 PM

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hello, out of curiosity have you changed the format of ${HOME}/.config/bl

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?

wraith niche Jan 18, 2021, 9:11 PM

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swift barn hello, out of curiosity have you changed the format of ${HOME}/.config/bl

No, why?

swift barn Jan 18, 2021, 9:12 PM

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hmm , I had initially installed bl as a binary, since I don't like manual update chores I made a script to use the docker container instead and shared the ${HOME}/.config/bl directory with it. today when I try to run commands, it complains about xdg-open not being in the path

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so I assume that my credentials are somehow not valid anymore but I am unsure why

wraith niche Jan 18, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Yes it’s usually the login. Probably your token that expired. If you want to avoid it, you can use an api key (generate it from your user settings in the dashboard)

swift barn Jan 18, 2021, 9:14 PM

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I guess i'll just use an api key

wraith niche Jan 18, 2021, 9:15 PM

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And give the key using the env var “BL_API_KEY”

swift barn Jan 18, 2021, 9:15 PM

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wraith niche Yes it’s usually the login. Probably your token that expired. If you want to avo...

Probably your token that expired

shouldn't there be a refresh token for such cases ?

swift barn Jan 18, 2021, 9:15 PM

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wraith niche And give the key using the env var “BL_API_KEY”

it will automatically pick it up if it is named BL_API_KEY ? (that would be nice)

wraith niche Jan 18, 2021, 9:15 PM

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Yes

wraith niche Jan 21, 2021, 2:51 AM

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Sharing what went to prod today: new logs activity in the dashboard (see the screenshot). It's much much nicer than the previous implementation. Now it's possible to follow the whole app deployment from the dashboard (without the cli). And it's searchable. Feedback welcome.

📎 logs.png

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Also working to upgrade our Runtime to the latest version of Cue, it should increase the performance a lot (early tests show that is twice as fast for evaluating our whole production config).

winter linden Jan 21, 2021, 3:06 AM

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Lastly we are working on open-sourcing our engine and SDK. If you would like early access let us know!

winter linden Jan 22, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Hi all, there is a new channel to discuss our upcoming open-source release: #dev . The repo is still private, but you can request access in the channel. I am renaming this channel to #general to clarify that it is the place to discuss the Blocklayer alpha program.

jolly plank Jan 24, 2021, 7:05 PM

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@here https://beta.app.blocklayerhq.com/ isn't loading for me, has the url of the dashboard changed?

winter linden Jan 24, 2021, 7:07 PM

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jolly plank @here https://beta.app.blocklayerhq.com/ isn't loading for me, has the url of th...

looks like the right url. checking

wraith niche Jan 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

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There is an outage on Netlify right now, bringing down our dashboard. Our API (running on AWS) is not impacted so the cli works fine.

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✅ The dashboard is back. We changed the dns config to avoid using Netlify's A record (which is faulty), and use the CNAME instead. Sorry for the downtime.

winter linden Jan 27, 2021, 5:53 PM

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Looks like it’s official, congratulations @cosmic zinc 🙂

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https://twitter.com/docker/status/1354481439597752320

Docker (@Docker)

A big congrats to @justincormack who has been named CTO of #Docker! Justin joined in 2015 and was a senior engineer in security. He's been a maintainer of Docker's #opensource projects & is a member of the @CloudNativeFdn TOC. Well deserved! 👏🥳🎉⭐️🐋

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soft jay Jan 27, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Nice!! Congrats 🎉

winter linden Jan 27, 2021, 7:02 PM

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(I don’t think he checks discord very often 😄

cold river Jan 27, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Awesome news!

blazing sluice Jan 27, 2021, 8:18 PM

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Awesome indeed! Congrats @cosmic zinc 🥳

winter linden Jan 28, 2021, 11:54 PM

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Welcome @swift barn 🙂 What’s your github ID so we can give you access to the future opensource repo?

swift barn Jan 28, 2021, 11:55 PM

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danpopsd

winter linden Jan 29, 2021, 4:40 AM

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thanks for the issue @swift barn !

swift barn Jan 29, 2021, 4:48 AM

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winter linden thanks for the issue <@456226577798135808> !

i really really really like what i see!

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see the promise of this

winter linden Jan 29, 2021, 5:11 AM

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winter linden thanks for the issue <@456226577798135808> !

I replied with a suggestion for one-line PR if you feel up for it 🙂 (just have to remove one line)

swift barn Jan 29, 2021, 5:45 AM

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on it 🙂

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having fun with your DCO 🙂

winter linden Jan 29, 2021, 5:55 AM

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oh yeah you need to do git commit -s

swift barn Jan 29, 2021, 5:56 AM

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nah my syntax was off half asleep 🙂

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all good 🙂

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didnt add '<>"

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have the same problem sometimes with falco on my mac editor vs my linux desktop.

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appreciate the patience.

winter linden Jan 29, 2021, 6:39 AM

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aaaand merged @swift barn thanks 🙂

winter linden Feb 1, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Welcome @frigid canyon ! We discuss the Blocklayer beta here, and our (soon to be) open-source project, in #dev . You should have received a github invite.

wraith niche Feb 1, 2021, 3:57 AM

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winter linden Welcome <@169368687701131266> ! We discuss the Blocklayer beta here, and our (so...

Long time, @frigid canyon. Welcome!

winter linden Feb 1, 2021, 4:14 AM

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please be gentle

frigid canyon Feb 1, 2021, 4:17 AM

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winter linden please be gentle

will try my best :)

frigid canyon Feb 1, 2021, 4:17 AM

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wraith niche Long time, <@169368687701131266>. Welcome!

indeed!

frigid canyon Feb 1, 2021, 4:19 AM

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winter linden Welcome <@169368687701131266> ! We discuss the Blocklayer beta here, and our (so...

didn't receive anything yet, but will patiently wait!

winter linden Feb 1, 2021, 4:28 AM

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frigid canyon didn't receive anything yet, but will patiently wait!

ok I double checked

swift barn Feb 1, 2021, 7:46 PM

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The request for me took about 45-60 minutes

stoic knot Feb 2, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Does dagger look for cue.mod/... relative to the directory argument?

meaning that the following (sharing of cue.mod/...) is not supported currently?

project/
  cue.mod/dagger.cloud/dagger/...
  app-1/
    dagger.cue
  app-2/
    dagger.cue

cloud canyon Feb 2, 2021, 11:03 PM

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@stoic knot currently yes, the directory is packed and shipped to buildkit, it doesn't see anything else

winter linden Feb 2, 2021, 11:10 PM

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Thinking of adding something like this:

$ dagger compute —source-dir project/ app-1

cloud canyon Feb 2, 2021, 11:10 PM

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We don't have a stdlib as of yet

winter linden Feb 2, 2021, 11:11 PM

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then app-1 could be replaced by any valid cue eval argument

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for example:

$ dagger compute —source-dir project/ dagger.cloud/dagger/foo
(computing package foo)

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I’ll do it now actually

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🙂

cloud canyon Feb 2, 2021, 11:12 PM

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I don't understand it

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it's like a path within the source?

winter linden Feb 2, 2021, 11:24 PM

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optional cue arguments

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for specifying what configuration to build and compute. By default it just builds the source directory as is (same as cue eval)

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But in a directory layout like the one described by @stoic knot , where the source directory is a project with multiple configurations, then you would specify a path within the source: in this case either app1/ or app2/

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It’s kind of like docker build -f

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 12:22 AM

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the pattern of [context is current working dir, arg is path to inputs] is common. Docker, Go, and Cue all use it

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For the examples, it would be nice to remove all of the repeated cue.mod dirs

winter linden Feb 3, 2021, 12:32 AM

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Yeah agreed, we’re going to load a default stdlib from a public repo. It’s on my todolist 🙂

winter linden Feb 3, 2021, 1:24 AM

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stoic knot the pattern of [context is current working dir, arg is path to inputs] is common...

Another cool use: cat test.cue | dagger compute —source-dir project/ -

winter linden Feb 3, 2021, 1:25 AM

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winter linden Another cool use: `cat test.cue | dagger compute —source-dir project/ -`

also loading from remote sources: dagger compute —source-git https://gitlab.com/shykes/myconfig#prod

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 2:48 AM

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stoic knot For the examples, it would be nice to remove all of the repeated `cue.mod` dirs

Yeah, don't pay too much attention to those cue.mod in the examples, they're just experimentations

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 2:51 AM

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winter linden Yeah agreed, we’re going to load a default stdlib from a public repo. It’s on my...

Perhaps we could start by embedding a cue.mod overlay in dagger itself ... at first the code and the stdlib are going to be tighly coupled, it's kinda neat if they go hand in hand at the beginning

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(so we can make PRs that change code/spec/stdlib at once, we test them together, ship them together, etc)

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 2:54 AM

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I'm thinking that --source-dir should default to "." like other tools. Is it correct to say that today it defaults to the argument supplied? That always has to be a directory as well?

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Is there anything on how multiple envs will work?

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w.r.t. --source-dir defaulting to cwd, I typically have a ci dir as a peer to my source dirs, then run all commands from the root of the repo, where I keep go.mod / cue.mod / etc.

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or so that commands have the entire repo as the working context

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 2:57 AM

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makes sense to me

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^^ @winter linden

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(I think that's what @winter linden meant with --source-dir)

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 2:59 AM

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cloud canyon Perhaps we could start by embedding a cue.mod overlay in dagger itself ... at fi...

@stoic knot ^^ but yeah, what I meant by this, is we could embed our stdlib in dagger itself, which would be overlaid on top of cue.mod ... the use case you described would work. You'd have your cue.mod in your repo with your packages, and dagger would overlay the built-in stdlib on top

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basically, import "dagger.cloud" would magically work because of the overlay, and import "myowncuemod/something" would also work

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(ideally at some point we could piggyback on cue's module support)

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 3:10 AM

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I'd say that Cue modules load like one would expect, and that it does not manage dependencies yet (versions / vendoring / fetching)

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my hof tool uses Cue mods, as they work mostly out of the box

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 3:15 AM

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yup

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 3:16 AM

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cloud canyon basically, import "dagger.cloud" would magically work because of the overlay, an...

^^ this is basically what cue itself does for its stdlib

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 3:22 AM

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I have a few Cue modules already for hof code generators

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 3:24 AM

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Just for dagger’s stdlib we can’t expect everyone to copy paste those files in their cue.mod

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 3:26 AM

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Is the stdlib just Cue? or does it include Go code in the dagger cli?

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 3:27 AM

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just cue

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for now, I guess

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 3:28 AM

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fwiw, I have embedded Cue directly into a Go cli

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for the same reason

winter linden Feb 3, 2021, 3:29 AM

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cloud canyon <@!726251637810659398> ^^ but yeah, what I meant by this, is we could embed our ...

Right, you can think of dagger as providing a cue distribution in the same way say Red Hat provides a Linux distribution

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Would you describe hof as providing a Cue distribution? @winter linden wondering how you are defining that? (context the user-functions discussion we had on the Cue GH, which coincidentally came up again)

winter linden Feb 3, 2021, 3:31 AM

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You want the ability to individually build and install anything straight from source - cue mods. And you also want a stable universe where everything is known to work together - the dagger stdlib

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I just mean a bunch of cue packages shipped & tested together - the stdlib we’re discussing

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 3:37 AM

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👋 Heading out for the day

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Is there support for GCR (google container registry)? (or AWS's version, i.e. private registry auth)

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Today, I run gcloud auth configure-docker, can dagger reuse docker's auth config?

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Supporting docker's current config seems like it could smooth transitions

stoic knot Feb 3, 2021, 7:52 PM

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winter linden I just mean a bunch of cue packages shipped & tested together - the stdlib we’re...

I've been referring to these as "cue modules." (like go mods) Though there is more when it comes to things like dagger & hof, because they have a sort of DSL on top of Cue

winter linden Feb 3, 2021, 7:53 PM

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stoic knot Today, I run `gcloud auth configure-docker`, can dagger reuse docker's auth conf...

We’ve developed it at some point. It might still be in the stackbrew repo (not currently ported to our beta, but could be rather easily)

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https://github.com/stackbrew/stackbrew/tree/master/pkg/googlecloud/gcr

GitHub

stackbrew/stackbrew

Configuration packages to automate application delivery - stackbrew/stackbrew

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you can date it by the old-style :: notation for cue defs 🙂

cloud canyon Feb 3, 2021, 8:11 PM

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(btw -- we could perhaps move this conversation to #dev since it's about dagger)

fresh mesa Feb 9, 2021, 9:13 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/im-in-im-here-i-am-here-door-slam-gif-17670516

Tenor

winter linden Feb 9, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Welcome 🙂

fresh mesa Feb 9, 2021, 9:54 PM

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winter linden Welcome 🙂

Thanks! Some familiar faces here ☺️

winter linden Feb 9, 2021, 9:56 PM

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More to come I hope!

fresh mesa Feb 9, 2021, 9:59 PM

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For sure! Having a quick glance at the repository (while scanning photos for a friend 😁 yay for multitasking)

blazing sluice Feb 10, 2021, 11:57 AM

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Good to see you @fresh mesa ! 🙂

fresh mesa Feb 10, 2021, 1:04 PM

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blazing sluice Good to see you <@!708427292568846386> ! 🙂

You too! 😊

wraith niche Feb 18, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Latest update on the Blocklayer Beta 🚀

We just released a new Agent version b7c3ab93. It's strongly recommended to upgrade. Along with bugfixes, it embeds the latest version of Cue which speeds up the overall deployment.

We re-enabled the Agent's cache (which was disabled in a previous version because of several invalid cache issues, those are now fixed). With the latest Agent, every time a Stack's component does not need to run, it'll re-use the cached version, avoiding unnecessary steps.

We also fixed a bug in RDS, some users were impacted. If you see an "invalid password" error on the DB deployment, just ping us, we'll help you fix it manually on RDS.

Feedback is welcome, as usual 🙂

wraith niche Feb 25, 2021, 2:22 AM

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A new provider is available on Blocklayer Beta 🥳

Screen_Shot_2021-02-24_at_6.21.08_PM.png

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based on the config we've been using to monitor our production endpoints for months - so it works 🙂

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we're also preparing a new agent release that adds telemetry on the codebuild activity (more data about what's going on on your aws account while the code is deployed) - will share more details in a newsletter this week.

wraith niche Mar 22, 2021, 10:42 PM

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Blocklayer Beta upgrade:

New agent that includes the latest runtime, it'll increase the speed and stability
Fixed a cache issue that causes builds to fail in some situations: if you get weird cache errors during a deploy, ping us and we'll fix the cache manually (it won't happen again after upgrading to the latest agent)
The Netlify provider now has the ability to disable the build (useful to push static assets with no JS to build)

lime sierra Mar 30, 2021, 5:08 PM

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👋

winter linden Mar 30, 2021, 5:09 PM

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Welcome @lime sierra 🙂 You’ll probably be most interested in #dev where we discuss open source development. I’ll give you access to the github repo

lime sierra Mar 30, 2021, 5:10 PM

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@winter linden Yes that's it 🙂

patent stirrup Mar 30, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Hello! 👋

winter linden Mar 30, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Hi @patent stirrup good to see you here 🙂 What’s your github account so I can give you access to the future open-source repo?

patent stirrup Mar 30, 2021, 7:35 PM

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fkautz

winter linden Mar 30, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Invite sent 👍

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OSS dev discussions are in #dev , it’s a mix of maintainer/contributor discussion, and user questions and feedback. Make yourself at home 🙂

patent stirrup Mar 30, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Thanks!

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@winter linden I can try driving this for edge and service provider use cases

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They are going to have issues here, terraform and helm just don’t cut it

patent stirrup Mar 30, 2021, 8:26 PM

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they have a meta-orchestration problem

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everyone focuses on the k8s cluster, but the real challenge is above that

winter linden Mar 30, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Who’s “they”? I’m guessing your employer or client?

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Seems very relevant to Dagger 🙂

patent stirrup Mar 30, 2021, 8:28 PM

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ah, i should be more clear, i'm working with service providers (think ISPs, telecoms, edge) in the open source space

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i should put together some slides on edge computing and 5G to describe how this all works and where some of challenges are

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from a business perspective, target enterprise though... sales cycles in service provider sales cycles take too long

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they should be long term goals, they won't solve short term solvency issues

winter linden Mar 31, 2021, 11:06 PM

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@patent stirrup we got another request for KinD today 🙂

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 3:26 AM

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😄

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@winter linden https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1aAkDpU8AApx2K?format=jpg&name=medium

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 3:47 AM

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winter linden <@267141229731512320> we got another request for KinD today 🙂

think it would be possible to make a generic kubernetes type and specify the implementation underneath?

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e.g. gke, eks, aks, baremetal provisioned via kubeadm, openshift, k3s, kind, minikube, microk8s, docker desktop k8s... all result in a kubeconfig

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 3:50 AM

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patent stirrup think it would be possible to make a generic kubernetes type and specify the imp...

yes absolutely. we did just that in an earlier prototype. Cue is a perfect language for it

wraith niche Apr 1, 2021, 3:50 AM

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patent stirrup think it would be possible to make a generic kubernetes type and specify the imp...

Yes it’s what we started to do in stdlib/kubernetes. It aims to be a generic client to apply a config to any k8s cluster.

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 3:50 AM

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wraith niche Apr 1, 2021, 3:51 AM

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wraith niche Yes it’s what we started to do in stdlib/kubernetes. It aims to be a generic cli...

It works but it’s just a start, contributions or ideas are welcome of course

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 3:51 AM

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wraith niche Apr 1, 2021, 3:53 AM

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Yes, stdlib/kubernetes takes a generic kubeconfig. In the eks example, the kubeconfig generator is aws specific. But the kubernetes pkg could take one that was generated from gcloud for example.

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 3:54 AM

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you're forcing me to learn yet another language...

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i picked up go because of docker 😉

wraith niche Apr 1, 2021, 3:55 AM

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patent stirrup you're forcing me to learn yet another language...

It’s honestly addictive 🙂

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I don’t see myself doing things differently, although I am obviously biased 😛

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 4:00 AM

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i see you've renamed the discord server...

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more daggish

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 4:23 AM

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yes blocklayer was the original name, the blocklayer beta will become Dagger Cloud

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 4:24 AM

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patent stirrup <@!488409085998530571> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1aAkDpU8AApx2K?format=jpg&na...

did you know Gordon is actually a GIRL???

patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 4:45 AM

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i did not!

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was this known at the time the above photo was taken?

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 4:53 AM

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not at all

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we figured it out very recently after my leaving Docker

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patent stirrup Apr 1, 2021, 4:54 AM

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😮

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that's very clear

uncut sparrow Apr 1, 2021, 9:21 AM

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Hello, thanks for the invite 😃

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 2:33 PM

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uncut sparrow Hello, thanks for the invite 😃

Welcome! You should have received a github invitation

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Yay successful dagger up from main 🙂

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@wraith niche query is very cool too

wraith niche Apr 1, 2021, 6:06 PM

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winter linden <@707661676056674346> `query` is very cool too

I only write cool code

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 6:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cat-cool-lit-gif-13999500

Tenor

winter linden Apr 1, 2021, 9:56 PM

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My first react app deployed with dagger up 🙂 https://60663fd11f216500b3fda262--dagger-example-react.netlify.app

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I followed the new React example, live here: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/examples/README.md#react-deploy-a-simple-react-application

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Please try it out and let me know how it goes

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 12:05 AM

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More updated examples:

Deploy a React application
Provision a Kubernetes cluster
Deploy an application to Kubernetes (with or without Helm)
Add HTTP monitoring to any app

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https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/examples/README.md

uncut sparrow Apr 2, 2021, 1:33 AM

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winter linden Welcome! You should have received a github invitation

Got the invitation, thanks!

distant pebble Apr 2, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Hello 👋 Thanks for the invite

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 4:00 AM

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distant pebble Hello 👋 Thanks for the invite

Welcome 🙂

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github invite underway

distant pebble Apr 2, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Great to see some familiar names already in here

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Hi Solomon. Thanks for the invite. My GH handle is lachie83. I look forward to kicking the tires

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Welcome 🙂 Sending github invite now

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make yourself at home

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:30 AM

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winter linden make yourself at home

Thanks. Invite received. Taking a look around now

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Just read through the examples. Pretty neat. Working on getting my head around how it works

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:40 AM

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Yeah lots of work ahead on explaining it succintly

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Basically you write your deployment plan in a declarative language called Cue. If is basically JSON meets Go. So you have a full blown developer experience including reusable packages.

In that declarative layer you (or someone else if you reuse their packages) can embed processing pipelines to run arbitrary code as part of applying the configuration. The pipelines are really buildkit DAGs: basically anything you can do in a docker build, you can do in a pipeline.

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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Once I've looked at it a little more I'll ask some questions. Right now I'm trying to figure out how I would point it at any Kubernetes cluster (not specifically one on AWS) assuming I have a kubeconfig (I know it doesn't flow with the narrative in the examples). I was going to see if I could retrofit with Kind (https://kind.sigs.k8s.io/). Really just wanted to experiment so that I "get it"

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:43 AM

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The result of those 2 things together is a complete programming model for application delivery as code, end to end.

The declarative CUE is like the HTML layout; the processing pipelines are like JS handlers.

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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abstract prairie Once I've looked at it a little more I'll ask some questions. Right now I'm tryi...

We’re working on that example right now. We got this request a lot 🙂

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Great! That's really neat.

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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Literally 3d request for KinD in 24h

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:44 AM

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oh LOL

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no worries

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would love to see the PR

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:45 AM

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The killer feature is the programming environment - we think we have solved the problem of expressing your app delivery as real code. Everything else is packaging for that.

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You can also take a look at our stdlib: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/tree/main/stdlib

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It gives a sense of what it looks like to develop reusable Cue packages for dagger

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:46 AM

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It's pretty easy to read at a quick glance

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:48 AM

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That remains true even as complexity increases. We’ve used it in production and the perceived complexity stays close to the actual complexity. Which is not the case for most deployment scripts and other “xxx as code” things like Terraform, Cloudformation...

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Most of the credit goes to Cue for that. We are working closely with the Cue developers to take full advantage of it. It is a marvel of a language.

abstract prairie Apr 2, 2021, 5:49 AM

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winter linden That remains true even as complexity increases. We’ve used it in production and ...

That's neat and is incredible value if it turns out to be true

tall current Apr 2, 2021, 5:52 AM

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Hey solomon, thanks for the invite. My github username imumesh18. Looking forward to get my hands dirty🙌

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:53 AM

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tall current Hey solomon, thanks for the invite. My github username imumesh18. Looking forwar...

Welcome Umesh! I just sent you an invite. We’re here to answer any questions you may have

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I appreciate you taking the time to test this out everyone

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 5:54 AM

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winter linden Literally 3d request for KinD in 24h

Be KinD! :p

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:58 AM

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@abstract prairie not sure if you saw it, but there’s a section in the docs called “Dagger programmer guide” that tries to address some of those questions of “how does it really work?”

dapper geyser Apr 2, 2021, 5:59 AM

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Thanks Solomon for the invite. My GitHub username is wondenge.

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 5:59 AM

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dapper geyser Thanks Solomon for the invite. My GitHub username is wondenge.

Welcome 🙂 Sending invite now

native rivet Apr 2, 2021, 6:31 AM

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thanks for the invite! my github is abdulajet 👋🏿

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:33 AM

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native rivet thanks for the invite! my github is abdulajet 👋🏿

Welcome! I just sent you an invite. Ask any questions here, the docs are still rough as you can see from all the questions above 🙂 Any time you have to try it out is appreciated.

native rivet Apr 2, 2021, 6:38 AM

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winter linden Welcome! I just sent you an invite. Ask any questions here, the docs are still r...

bank holiday weekend here so i’ll give it a go. looks great!

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:43 AM

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so this in cue at first glance looks fantastic:

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CUE can currently extract definitions from:

Go code
Protobuf definitions.

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:43 AM

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I remember when I could code on the weekend... those were the days... have fun and let us know how it goes!

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:44 AM

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patent stirrup so this in cue at first glance looks fantastic:

yup 😉 Cue is ridiculous

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:46 AM

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any experience with protoc-gen-validate?

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int32 port = 1 [(validate.rules).int32 = { gte: 5000, lte: 10000 }];

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:47 AM

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nope sorry but maybe someone else here

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:47 AM

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doesn't look like valid proto syntax to me, but perhaps there is a preprocessor or a language feature i'm unfamiliar with

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:48 AM

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one example os that cue can auto-generate the full kub resource schema by simply pulling the kub go source code

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:48 AM

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yea, that's what i was thinking

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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there’s a kub tutorial on cuelang.org

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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i've been developing most of my APIs as grpc endpoints which begin life as a protobuf

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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What is invalid syntax? The "options" you see with protoc-gen-validate is "valid" syntax, AFAIK.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:49 AM

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so i'm wondering how grpc integration works, if at all

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:50 AM

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spice valve What is invalid syntax? The "options" you see with protoc-gen-validate is "valid...

behold the mastermind behind Cue 🙂

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the master himself

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:50 AM

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@spice valve yea, i may just not know proto well enough, most of the options i've used i recall were annotations

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:50 AM

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It is just that protobuf doesn't really have a spec, and where it does it ad-hoc and not reflecting state of the art (implementations are leading spec in proto land mostly).

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:51 AM

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i don't remember that syntax in the docs

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ah, there it is...

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[deprecated = true];

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in the docs :p

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:52 AM

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I'm currently working on interpreting and generating proto values as well (at first just textproto and jsonpb). This is quite a complicated feat, as it is impossible to parse even JSON pb properly without having a schema. But getting there.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:52 AM

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they don't specify how field options work in the language guide located at https://developers.google.com/protocol-buffers/docs/proto3

Google Developers

Language Guide (proto3) | Protocol Buffers | Google Developers

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deprecated is the only reference to their existence

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literally that line i posted

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Yeah that spec is not reflecting the full reality. Also textproto isn't specified at all. And the protobuf to JSON mapping is just plain weird.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:53 AM

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so it's a knowledge gap on my side (and i'll hapilly blame that doc)

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:54 AM

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I do think these type of options are covered in the spec. Though not sure.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:55 AM

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i've also used this for generating REST endpoints in grpc (via grpc-gateway)

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service EchoService {
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      body: "*"
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that's really nifty though 🙂

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yea, lang spec is probably elsewhere, and they just don't cover these in the guide

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Example of mapping weirdness: integers can be represented as strings or integers, and when converting to JSON, some integer types are converted to ints and others to strings (by choice, not a bug).

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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and to further complicate things... javascript also treats it asa float :x

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 6:58 AM

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CUE currently doesn't allow specifying message signatures, but we're thinking about it. In the mean time one can use attributes for arbitrary annotations.

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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hello: “world” @myannotation(goes here,foo=bar)

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 6:59 AM

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i'll definitely ask questions here, i came cross cue a couple days ago with this community being my first exposure

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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I'm here only sporadically. If you want cue-specific answers to be lastingly documented, the best forum is github discussions on cuelang/cue.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:01 AM

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ah, thanks for the pointer

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just tried importing in k8s api as mentioned in the docs

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https://gist.github.com/fkautz/a32876638b27c77e38e0a1efb18ab362

Gist

types_go_gen.cue

GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

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really nice!

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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I started a thread to collect preferences on kubernetes setup : https://github.com/dagger/dagger/discussions/257

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:07 AM

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i'm happy to help there

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i'm involved with a few open source projects that'll benefit from this as well

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as dagger matures, i'm going to spend some time (or convince others) to integrate 🙂

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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I’m off to bed, thank you all for participating, I look forward to hearing from your first experience with Dagger.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:09 AM

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good night!

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doesn't appear to be object oriented

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If I recall properly, OASIS Tosca is object oriented which ends up being a source for much complexity

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the telecom industry is on tosca :p

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 7:34 AM

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patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:34 AM

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yea, cue not bieng OO is good

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tosca is OO and that causes a lot of complexity

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telecom uses tosca to handle deployment and configuration of their infra, though some of that is changing as they move to helm in some limited circumstances

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but they are even looking at lifting tosca into k8s to replace helm

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i think that's a mistake though

copper light Apr 2, 2021, 7:37 AM

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Hello! Just joined! Thanks for the invitation!

spice valve Apr 2, 2021, 7:37 AM

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But they need a way to represent k8s, no?

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👋

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:37 AM

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they need a way to represent a service and pod in k8s

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interestingly, they assume the k8s cluster already exists

copper light Apr 2, 2021, 7:38 AM

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Just wanted to say hello now so I don’t forget. I’ll be back on later on today, but my GitHub username is codeherk.

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:39 AM

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hello @copper light !

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i'm sure someone will see you later and grant you access

copper light Apr 2, 2021, 7:40 AM

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patent stirrup i'm sure someone will see you later and grant you access

Sounds good. No problem at all!

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:44 AM

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@spice valve here's an example of tosca: https://github.com/oasis-open/tosca-community-contributions/blob/master/profiles/cloud.puccini/kubernetes/1.0/interfaces.yaml

GitHub

oasis-open/tosca-community-contributions

OASIS TC Open Repository: Manages TOSCA profiles, tests, and templates that are maintained by the TOSCA community. They are intended to be used as examples to help developers get started with TOSCA...

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https://github.com/oasis-open/tosca-community-contributions/blob/master/examples/1.3/tutorial/interfaces.yaml

GitHub

oasis-open/tosca-community-contributions

OASIS TC Open Repository: Manages TOSCA profiles, tests, and templates that are maintained by the TOSCA community. They are intended to be used as examples to help developers get started with TOSCA...

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shifting these over to dagger (and cue) i think would be beneficial 🙂

copper light Apr 2, 2021, 7:50 AM

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patent stirrup shifting these over to dagger (and cue) i think would be beneficial 🙂

Thanks for sharing! I’ll look into them

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 7:51 AM

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@copper light those are not part of dagger 🙂

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i think it would be interesting to see these implemented/replaced by dagger though

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ah you did notice that!

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sorry, it's late here:p

copper light Apr 2, 2021, 7:59 AM

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@patent stirrup lol no worries! I appreciate the early intro

patent stirrup Apr 2, 2021, 8:00 AM

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in the meantime, take a look at the Cue language

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https://cuelang.org/docs/tutorials/

CUE

Tutorials

Step-by-step guides to learn more about CUE by doing.

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https://cuelang.org/docs/concepts/logic/

CUE

The Logic of CUE

Learn about CUE's theoretical basis and what makes it different.

civic lodge Apr 2, 2021, 7:22 PM

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Hello from Dublin Ireland! It's great to be here. My GitHub ID is tomwillfixit.

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Welcome @civic lodge ! Sending you an invite now.

wraith niche Apr 2, 2021, 8:14 PM

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civic lodge Hello from Dublin Ireland! It's great to be here. My GitHub ID is tomwillfixit.

Welcome! 👋

civic lodge Apr 2, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Thanks Solomon. Hi Sam 👋

distant pebble Apr 2, 2021, 9:44 PM

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civic lodge Thanks Solomon. Hi Sam 👋

yay more friendly names! How are you Tom >?

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 10:09 PM

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@wraith niche @cloud canyon my impressions of new cli commands after 48h: we’re missing a way to get a quick overview of the current deployment state: what’s the deployment plan, what are the inputs? Kind of like git status gives an overview of the current repo state

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not sure what to call it

cloud canyon Apr 2, 2021, 10:13 PM

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@winter linden ya, I wanted to at least know which deployment the current directory is mapped to, if any

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dagger status doesn't sound too bad?

winter linden Apr 2, 2021, 10:16 PM

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deployments plural - it can be more than one

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and yes that would be good to know too

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 12:07 AM

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Would anyone be interested in a live demo / tutorial for those just getting started with Dagger, with open Q&A?

grim dawn Apr 3, 2021, 1:15 AM

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yes i am definitely interested in a live demo of dagger

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 3:18 AM

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Ok we’ll set it up next week! I’ll share info here

grim dawn Apr 3, 2021, 3:30 AM

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ok sounds good

patent stirrup Apr 3, 2021, 3:48 AM

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@distant pebble hello!

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 5:34 PM

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github: spullara

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 5:37 PM

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welcome 🙂

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invite sent

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 5:54 PM

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so it looks like something i may be able to use for packaging instead of serverless.com? i have a pretty complicated one i am using right now that has a lot of cloudformation.

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 5:56 PM

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yes you can compose the steps of your delivery: build, packaging, upload artifacts, cloudformation templating, push new cloudformation stack etc - in one dag

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not cloudformation specific but there is a cloudformation package, most packages we’re still porting over from our earlier non-open source prototypes. There is a ECS+Cloudformation stack which got some good production mileage. It’s a good fit

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https://github.com/dagger/dagger/tree/main/stdlib/aws

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 6:23 PM

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the thing that serverless does for me is mostly just packaging up lambdas and docker containers and uploading them. most everything else I could do with cloudformation. a few plugins are also useful.

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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If you’re a CF expert and enjoy usinf it directly of course you can use dagger and cf side by side. Or as a convenience you can call cf from your dagger deployment. Whatever works - it’s glue 🙂

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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sadly, i am now a CF expert by necessity

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 6:25 PM

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ha ha I know what you mean.

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The guiding principle is that dagger adapts to your stack and not the other way around

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so serverless.com generates your cloudformation config?

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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yes

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it embeds my CF stuff in it and i can reference things from its config

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 6:27 PM

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I see

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 6:28 PM

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their value is in packaging, plugins for common tasks, some wiring, but at the end of the day, CF is huge.

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 6:28 PM

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If the yaml is getting painful you could import it as cue, and output yaml at will

simple jackal Apr 3, 2021, 6:28 PM

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and there are tons of things that they don't handle directly

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but they also do stupid things

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like reupload unchanged lambdas

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every deploy

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which wouldn't be so bad if AWS SDK v3 for node wasn't 100M of dependencies lol

winter linden Apr 3, 2021, 6:29 PM

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yeah that adds up

wraith niche Apr 3, 2021, 6:33 PM

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We built some config that we use internally to deploy lambdas from compiled code and deploy them using cloud formation. All of this with dagger. Could extract some of this to create some examples config. I remember some of the setup you showed me a while ago @simple jackal

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Also gained knowledge on cfn, not by choice 🙂

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But it’s handy to manage the infra state efficiently

civic lodge Apr 3, 2021, 7:11 PM

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distant pebble yay more friendly names! How are you Tom >?

Hey Victor, keeping well. We are still in Level 5 lockdown but we have our health and enjoying life 🙂

patent stirrup Apr 4, 2021, 6:38 PM

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When dagger is public, would be good to put a simple demo up on https://github.com/cncf/podtato-head

GitHub

cncf/podtato-head

📨🚚 CNCF App Delivery SIG Demo. Contribute to cncf/podtato-head development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Or do something similar

winter linden Apr 4, 2021, 7:55 PM

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good idea

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we can both contribute to this, and create something similar as an “encyclopedia” of everything you can deploy with Dagger

patent stirrup Apr 4, 2021, 8:38 PM

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the little dagger book of deployments

simple jackal Apr 5, 2021, 3:52 AM

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assassins screed

patent stirrup Apr 5, 2021, 4:44 AM

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@winter linden i still use https://github.com/docker/gordon 😄

GitHub

docker/gordon

Cli application to manage github pull requests . Contribute to docker/gordon development by creating an account on GitHub.

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i need to fix it to default to main and fallback to master

twilit flax Apr 5, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Hello everyone! Lots of exciting new things happening here! Could I get an invite to the GitHub project? Username is “borjaburgos”, thanks!

winter linden Apr 5, 2021, 7:16 PM

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Welcome back @twilit flax 🙂 adding you now

winter linden Apr 6, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Merged experimental config to dev dagger with dagger. To use:

$ git clone https://github.com/dagger/dagger
$ cd dagger
$ dagger new
$ dagger input dir source .
$ dagger up

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Overall flow still feels awkward. After a few days of use we will probably adjust UX & DX. Feedback & suggestions welcome.

sour ember Apr 7, 2021, 12:53 AM

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@winter linden I've been thinking this for a while and would like to know your idea: how should we describe this approach? "Developer Experience Enabled by Modularized IaC Components"?

stoic knot Apr 7, 2021, 1:02 AM

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DevOps Superglue really resonates with me as a DevOps practitioner. I think of it as Terraform meets Pulumi from local dev to production. I also come at it from CUE for DevOps, as a way to get rid of YAML and also have imports / modules.

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hmm... OX? (Operations eXperience)

winter linden Apr 7, 2021, 1:06 AM

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sour ember <@!488409085998530571> I've been thinking this for a while and would like to kno...

We’re still searching for the “best” explanation. We have tried different versions. Currently in the README we describe Dagger as a “programmable deployment system”. We also tried “application delivery as code”, which is a superset of infrastructure as code. Delivery includes the entire workflow from source to production: build, test, artifact management, infrastructure provisioning, configuration management, staging etc.

swift barn Apr 7, 2021, 3:03 AM

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Yo yo yo! Would love to try out the project, gh handle: n4ss

winter linden Apr 7, 2021, 3:06 AM

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swift barn Yo yo yo! Would love to try out the project, gh handle: n4ss

Welcome 🙂 Invite sent

late notch Apr 7, 2021, 6:56 AM

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👋 howzit? would love to have an access to the repo (https://github.com/dagger) to have a look 🙂 too many exciting things happening recently! 🦀 https://github.com/AdrienFromToulouse

patent stirrup Apr 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Never been to Toulouse 🙂

late notch Apr 7, 2021, 6:59 AM

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patent stirrup Never been to Toulouse 🙂

huge mistake

patent stirrup Apr 7, 2021, 7:00 AM

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I’d like to fix that after COVID-19

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I heard the architecture is amazing

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Told my wife we need to go visit and she said it’s already on the list 😄

late notch Apr 7, 2021, 7:03 AM

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patent stirrup Told my wife we need to go visit and she said it’s already on the list 😄

you married a very smart woman then 👍

winter linden Apr 7, 2021, 3:34 PM

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late notch 👋 howzit? would love to have an access to the repo (https://github.com/dagger) ...

Hi Adrien! I just sent you an invite.

late notch Apr 7, 2021, 4:03 PM

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winter linden Hi Adrien! I just sent you an invite.

sweet! 🙏

winter linden Apr 7, 2021, 8:30 PM

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https://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2021/04/07/modern-ci-is-too-complex-and-misdirected/ (thanks @stoic knot )

stoic knot Apr 8, 2021, 2:54 AM

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Saw this hilarious DevOps video today https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mushegh-davtyan_devops-automation-cicd-ugcPost-6784040740038176768-jvbI

Mushegh Davtyan on LinkedIn: #devops #automation #cicd | 504 comments

DevOps engineer during automation of CI-CD

#devops #automation #cicd... 504 comments on LinkedIn

analog cape Apr 8, 2021, 5:12 AM

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hi everyone 👋 and here we go again for some history making 🔥

swift barn Apr 9, 2021, 2:14 AM

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um... loving the react example (netlify...). very straight forward.

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great job!!! chefskiss

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aws -provision. -- ✅
aws-helm (deployed falco...). ✅

love it

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dagger input SO FUCKING INTUITIVE....

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pardon my french 🙂

swift barn Apr 9, 2021, 2:59 AM

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did run into an issue with delete/down

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probably need some tweaks

winter linden Apr 9, 2021, 4:27 AM

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swift barn did run into an issue with delete/down

https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/cmd/dagger/cmd/down.go#L20

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🙂

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panic("not implemented")

winter linden Apr 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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swift barn great job!!! <:chefskiss:823968841461792828>

https://tenor.com/view/feelings-emotions-crazy-excited-happy-gif-5428027

Tenor

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Thank you!!

winter linden Apr 9, 2021, 4:28 AM

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swift barn aws -provision. -- ✅ aws-helm (deployed falco...). ✅ love it

Nice you cleared those examples IRL?

swift barn Apr 9, 2021, 11:08 AM

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winter linden Nice you cleared those examples IRL?

Attempted them. React had an error but elements deployed.

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Aws still testing into today.

winter linden Apr 9, 2021, 3:16 PM

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There is a bug at the moment where the subdir operation doesn’t work properly. As a result instead of deploying the result of the react (yarn) build, netlify probably deployed (or tried to deploy) the root filesystem of the container that did the react build

swift barn Apr 9, 2021, 3:52 PM

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i will have time later today to play around

raw ether Apr 11, 2021, 11:38 PM

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👋 thanks for the early access peek! I'm intrigued and need to make time to dig more. My mind immediately jumped to comparisons to Terraform, so I'm curious to discover how it differs/improves on that 🙂

wraith niche Apr 12, 2021, 1:15 AM

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raw ether 👋 thanks for the early access peek! I'm intrigued and need to make time to dig ...

Welcome! Dagger does not replace terraform, but all the custom scripts you usually write to glue all your tools together for your app delivery automation. It’s quite trivial to use some terraform or cloudformation to provision a piece of infra in the middle of your config.

patent stirrup Apr 12, 2021, 8:28 AM

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looks like golang is breaking single file go apps which have imported dependencies if there is no go.mod present

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go 1.16 breaks it by default, but you can use GO111MODULE=off for GOPATH to work again

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go 1.17 will break it entirely

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GOPATH is going away

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anyway... wrote up a quick workaround to this... https://github.com/fkautz/rungo 🙂

GitHub

fkautz/rungo

Contribute to fkautz/rungo development by creating an account on GitHub.

serene thistleBOT Apr 13, 2021, 12:11 AM

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verdverm

[dagger] New discussion #317: Dagger in CI

Thread to ponder what Dagger in CI is like.

Some questions:

How do I use inputs, secrets, and environments? Currently, dagger knows about things because of a directory in the users $HOME/.dagger. Do I need to run dagger new each time? How does this work across my CI stages? How does this work when I have a single VM building multiple commits (concurrent PRs) (i.e. in the Jenkins world)?
Currently, I get a nicely drawn DAG (i.e. GitHub Actions, Jenkins Blue Ocean, CircleCI)....

winter linden Apr 20, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Grafana just merged a PR with Cue support 🙂 https://github.com/grafana/grafana/pull/32527

GitHub

Introduce "scuemata" system for CUE-based specification of Grafana ...

What this PR does / why we need it
This PR introduces a new system for defining CUE-based schema that govern Grafana objects, and exposing these schema for use in TypeScript, Go, and CUE.
While the...

lyric notch Apr 21, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Hi there, thanks for the early access 🙏 Glueing our ecosystem tooling is something I was looking for a long time. Can't wait to test dagger 😄

forest axle Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 AM

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👋 same as Elie thanks a lot for the invite 🙂

winter linden Apr 21, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Welcome 🙂

slate sail Apr 21, 2021, 5:42 PM

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hey guys - could you shoot me an invite please? 🙏

winter linden Apr 21, 2021, 5:51 PM

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Nothing would make me happier 🙂

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Sent

slate sail Apr 21, 2021, 5:55 PM

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thanks @winter linden 🙂

patent stirrup Apr 21, 2021, 6:10 PM

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nice find on grafana!

winter linden Apr 21, 2021, 6:53 PM

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Credit to @turbid tulip 🙂

turbid tulip Apr 21, 2021, 7:05 PM

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winter linden Credit to <@412836691720536065> 🙂

I so love this. It's gonna be awesome.

serene thistleBOT Apr 22, 2021, 5:32 AM

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fkautz

[dagger] New discussion #349: Should dagger secret be its own type?

The current dagger input looks like this:

✗ dagger input
Manage a deployment's inputs

Usage:
  dagger input [command]

Available Commands:
  container   Add a container image as input artifact
  dir         Add a local directory as input artifact
  git         Add a git repository as input artifact
  json        Add a JSON input
  secret      Add an encrypted input secret
  text        Add a text input
  yaml        Add a YAML input

Should dagger secret be its ...

serene thistleBOT Apr 22, 2021, 10:09 PM

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shykes

[dagger] New discussion #360: Terminology

This is a thread to discuss Dagger’s terminology (the choice of specific words to designate specific things), our experience with it, suggestions for changing it, etc.

Dagger’s terminology is still changing rapidly. Product terminology is part of product design, and the only way to find the right design is to try lots of bad ones. So, we’ve been trying lots of words to describe the important parts of Dagger. As we use the product, we get a better idea of which words work and which don’t.
...

serene thistleBOT Apr 22, 2021, 10:38 PM

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shykes

[dagger] New discussion #362: Embedding dagger configuration in an application repo

I have observed 2 distinct patterns for how to use Dagger in combination with an application repository:

Embedded. Sometimes one wants to embed a Dagger workflow directly in an application repository, in the same way one might embed a Dockerfile or docker-compose.yaml.
Standalone. Sometimes one wants to develop a Dagger workflow separately, from any application repository.

How Dagger supports these two patterns, and how to make sure each user follows the correct pattern for...

serene thistleBOT Apr 23, 2021, 1:30 AM

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fkautz

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #349: Should dagger secret be its own type?

For #2, what if the encrypted secret is an X509 cert or something else not json compatible? We could base64 encode it before passing it in, though that seems like an extra step that may not be necessary when cue supports bytes naturally.

serene thistleBOT Apr 23, 2021, 6:47 AM

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aluzzardi

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #360: Terminology

SGTM

Do you want to go ahead with the renaming or still need some time to see how it feels?

winter linden Apr 23, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Requesting feedback on terminology: should call the cue configuration executed by Dagger: a) a “plan” or b) a “workflow” ? https://github.com/dagger/dagger/discussions/360#discussioncomment-650989

winter linden Apr 23, 2021, 9:08 PM

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What’s a good example of a tool which manages its own state/data file in the current directory? Like for example node_modules. What are other examples, and do they work well?

Context: if dagger could create a modify a file in the current directory, it would make it easier to map dagger global state to each directory

wraith niche Apr 23, 2021, 9:08 PM

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git? 🙂

winter linden Apr 23, 2021, 9:09 PM

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Ha ha that’s true 🙂

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We could piggy-back on .git when it’s there, to avoid requiring that everyone manually add a file in their .gitignore

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.git/dagger/

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or we could piggy-back on .git/config with custom keys

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but then you need a fallback when you’re not in a git repo

serene thistleBOT Apr 23, 2021, 10:00 PM

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shykes

[dagger] New discussion #365: \`dagger context\`: better mapping of dagger state to current directory

This is an unfinished proposal to solve the issue of organizing dagger environments in general, and organizing them in relation to the current directory in particular.

Problem

On the one hand, each dagger installation has state which must be centralized in one location on the system. Currently that location is $HOME/.dagger. On the other hand, each dagger installation is typically used for different projects. Therefore the user will use the same dagger installation in different wa...

serene thistleBOT Apr 23, 2021, 10:40 PM

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shykes

[dagger] New discussion #366: In\-browser companion

It would be neat if dagger could optionally launch a companion webapp to monitor and configure an environment. This companion webapp would not implement a specific feature, but rather provide a platform for delivering various features that are more appropriate for a web environment. This would allow the CLI to focus on what it does best, and relax the requirement to do absolutely everything in a POSIX terminal, which is very challenging.

In short: if dagger always has access to 2 modes...

patent stirrup Apr 24, 2021, 3:31 AM

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winter linden `.git/dagger/`

You could even store state as references in git 🙂

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They don’t need to tie to the standard refs/heads or tags

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refs/dagger/state-obj

winter linden Apr 24, 2021, 5:04 AM

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You’re right that’s another option

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Maybe it’s ok to make git a special case. Realistically 99% of dagger commands will be called either 1) inside a git directory or 2) in a completely unrelated directory that should not be messed with

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So we could look for a git repo in local dir; and if we cannot find one, then use a “default context” which could be an empty git repo in ~/.dagger/default or something

cloud canyon Apr 24, 2021, 6:20 AM

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winter linden What’s a good example of a tool which manages its own state/data file in the cur...

git

most language environments (node, go, python, ...) —> but that’s maybe different since the whole purpose of the directory is the language ...

Most IDEs (e.g. .vscode) you’ll find a list of ide files in most boilerplate .gitignore (including github’s defaults for new repos)

Slightly different since it’s human written and not tool written: node projects have a ton of companion files in the project directory (.prettierrc, tsconfig, cypress.json, jsconifg.json are a few that we have on our own dashboard) that are written by humans, read by tools

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(by language environments I mean go.mod, Gemfile, etc)

serene thistleBOT Apr 24, 2021, 6:25 AM

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icecrime

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #360: Terminology

I’ve mentioned it before, I think environment is a perfect fit for the first concept 👍

I’m not a fan of workflow, which is also pretty overloaded and sounds like something sequential (which dagger isn’t). I’ve always like Ansible’s terminology of playbook, and more generally something like plan or recipe sounds good to me too.

PS: I feel bad for bike-shedding on naming without taking the time to participate on deeper topics.

serene thistleBOT Apr 24, 2021, 4:48 PM

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verdverm

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #366: In\-browser companion

VueCLI is an excellent example of this

serene thistleBOT Apr 24, 2021, 5:42 PM

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shykes

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #360: Terminology

Don’t feel bad. I don’t consider this bikeshedding, more like structuralwalling :) You’re a busy guy and any contribution is appreciated.

Personally I am still hesitating between workflow and plan. @samalba and @icecrime : do you think there might be confusion with the concept of terraform plan and pulumi plan?

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shykes

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #366: In\-browser companion

I will check it out, thanks!

winter linden Apr 27, 2021, 1:48 AM

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request for comments on contextual UI that would greatly improve how dagger integrates in a local git workflow: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/discussions/365

serene thistleBOT Apr 27, 2021, 8:55 PM

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shykes

[dagger/dagger] New comment on discussion #360: Terminology

Update: I opened a PR to replace deployment + plan with environment + plan. I think “plan” could work, I agree it is less overloaded than “workflow”.

How does everyone feel about possible conflict between the concept of a Dagger plan, with the actions terraform plan, pulumi plan and (perhaps one day?) and equivalent dagger plan ?

serene thistleBOT Apr 27, 2021, 11:44 PM

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shykes

[dagger] New discussion #378: Searchable catalog for plans and components

The user experience would be greatly improved, especially for beginners, if Dagger allowed selecting a plan from a catalog of ready-to-use plans.

For intermediary and expert users, Dagger should also searching for reusable components, to make it easier to develop your own plan.

A catalog of plans would be immediately useful for Dagger’s tutorials and examples. Currently they rely on dagger plan dir which assumes users have a local copy of the Dagger repository - this is an acceptable ...

shrewd jolt Apr 27, 2021, 11:59 PM

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👋 hey everyone, I'm Jimmy, @jzelinskie on GitHub and @jimmyzelinskie on Twitter

winter linden Apr 27, 2021, 11:59 PM

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shrewd jolt 👋 hey everyone, I'm Jimmy, @jzelinskie on GitHub and @jimmyzelinskie on Twitter

Hi Jimmy, welcome! I’ll add you to the repo right away

shrewd cargo Apr 28, 2021, 12:00 AM

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Hi! I'm pnathan - @shrewd cargo on github and @p_nathan on Twitter.

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:01 AM

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shrewd cargo Hi! I'm pnathan - <@661996491862310923> on github and @p_nathan on Twitter.

Welcome Paul! I just added you

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:01 AM

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winter linden Hi Jimmy, welcome! I’ll add you to the repo right away

Done!

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Most of the activity is still in #dev and #github-feed - that’s where we actually develop dagger itself. As more testers start coming in, #general and #help-old-do-not-post will get more lively. Make yourselves at home 🙂

shrewd cargo Apr 28, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Very interesting system.

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:08 AM

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I think this is the largest cue codebase I've ever seen, haha

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we use it for our k8s manifests and github actions right now

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:09 AM

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Ah you’ve played with Cue before? Cool 🙂 What was your experience so far?

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An over-simplified description of how Dagger works under the hood might be: a DAG compute engine powered by Buildkit and programmable in Cue

shrewd cargo Apr 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Question. When will this be public?

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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We are hoping to launch by June at the latest. It won’t be production-ready... But we’ll continue to improve it in the open

shrewd cargo Apr 28, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I'm going to be moving to a new role and this has resonances with likely early tasks.

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:11 AM

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We’re here to help 🙂

shrewd cargo Apr 28, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Do you anticipate this to exist with a distributed cluster scheduling backend, i.e., "airflow" or similar systems?

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:11 AM

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We have private support channels with a small number of testers who are also using our commercial cloud service

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:12 AM

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winter linden Ah you’ve played with Cue before? Cool 🙂 What was your experience so far?

We've found cue great at reducing boilerplate. Sometimes incompatible upgrades have been annoying

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:13 AM

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shrewd cargo Do you anticipate this to exist with a distributed cluster scheduling backend, i...

Under the hood we use buildkit as a compute engine. So any buildkit infrastructure is also Dagger infrastructure. That means it works out of the box on top of Docker. But also you can get fancy with a clustered buildkit + containerd setup, like the folks at Netflix are doing for example. Dagger will use that seamlessly

short breach Apr 28, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Hi all! happy to be here. My github is "FaisalAbid"

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:13 AM

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short breach Hi all! happy to be here. My github is "FaisalAbid"

Welcome Faisal! I just added you to the repo. Let us know if you have any questions, we’re here to help.

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:14 AM

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I honestly think that DAG from something like BuildKit is probably what's lacking in our current usage of cue for gcloud infra/k8s manifests

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We're actually experimenting with using Pulumi right now for GCP infra since DeploymentManager has been so bad

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:14 AM

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We’re being very careful to remain 100% compatible with upstream cue, so you can reuse all your existing cue configurations in the context of dagger

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:15 AM

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DeploymentManager is the GCP "CloudFormation"

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:15 AM

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Our docs are pretty sparse at the moment, so some of the important concepts which make dagger “click” may not be obvious from just reading the docs. There is a very basic “programmer guide” linked from the README

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but reading the examples is probably a must

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:16 AM

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shrewd jolt We're actually experimenting with using Pulumi right now for GCP infra since Dep...

The general idea for Dagger is to be the “glue” that you can integrate all the parts of existing stack in a unified DAG. Then from there you can refactor, simplify, etc.

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For example you can wrap Pulumi in Dagger

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as well as, say, cloudformation

short breach Apr 28, 2021, 12:17 AM

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winter linden Welcome Faisal! I just added you to the repo. Let us know if you have any questi...

amazing, already have a lot of usecases in mind as I need to do this almost everyday. Will share feedback during this week

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:17 AM

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So if you’re stuck with a stack which uses both, you have a common framework for configuring them together

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:18 AM

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short breach amazing, already have a lot of usecases in mind as I need to do this almost ever...

That’s great! Looking forward to hear more. Just remember it’s still early, so it might not work perfectly on the first try, or it might behave in a confusing way. The more you tell us about that, the better we can fix it 🙂

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:18 AM

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a cloud service will host the execution and secrets?

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Hosting will always be on your infrastructure. The cloud service will be optional, and provide unified management, audit log, access control etc.

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If it turns out to be helpful, the cloud service may also help automate infrastructure setup, for example by giving you a ready-to-use Cloudformation template to set up everything you need on AWS, exactly the way you need it. But that is also optional, you can also just install it yourself

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The cool thing is that Dagger only needs buildkit under the hood. So it can be embedded anywhere that has a docker daemon. In other words you can use your existing CI as infrastructure 🙂

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:21 AM

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the service you're describing sounds similar to how Anisible Tower is positioned in the Ansible market

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food for thought

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Yes, I think that’s an accurate comparison. Although Ansible has an on-prem version right?

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:22 AM

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yeah, that's true tower is not hosted

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but the centralized coordination & enterprisey features fits the bill

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Ansible is definitely one of the products we’re drawing inspiration from. Also: terraform, bazel, github actions... each in their own ways

swift barn Apr 28, 2021, 12:23 AM

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hi Jimmy 🙂

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:23 AM

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yeah, i honestly haven't used ansible -- i just worked at Red Hat so I know how the product is positioned

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so you'll have all the latest cue schemas for cloudformation/k8s/etc packaged at dagger.io?

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Correct

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With full interop with the broader cue ecosystem

stuck wyvern Apr 28, 2021, 12:28 AM

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👋
Knew this was going to be in cue

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:28 AM

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ha ha 🙂 Hi @stuck wyvern glad you could make it

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:28 AM

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yeah, i have to say, i did see you in the cue slack, solomon

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:28 AM

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btw the Cue developers are lurking here too, we work closely together

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:29 AM

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cool, i'll avoid talking trash then 😝

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:38 AM

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@stuck wyvern have you been using cue?

stuck wyvern Apr 28, 2021, 12:39 AM

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Not at all. I've looked at the docs a few times.

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:39 AM

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I recommend http://cuetorials.com

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By @stoic knot 🙂

shrewd jolt Apr 28, 2021, 12:41 AM

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HOLY i never knew about transforms

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 12:42 AM

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I’m hoping they add sugar on top so you can write foo: mytransform(bar)

grand fable Apr 28, 2021, 4:57 AM

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👋 I'm Brian, @bscott on Github, @brainscott on Twitter

winter linden Apr 28, 2021, 5:02 AM

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grand fable 👋 I'm Brian, @bscott on Github, @brainscott on Twitter

Welcome Brian! I just added you to the repo. It’s still rough so please don’t hesitate to report issues and ask anything here! Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

grand fable Apr 28, 2021, 5:03 AM

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winter linden Welcome Brian! I just added you to the repo. It’s still rough so please don’t he...

Will do, Thanks again!

summer oriole Apr 28, 2021, 8:46 AM

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Hello 👋 I’m hugo on GitHub. Pleased to be here with all you fine folk.

warm flame Apr 28, 2021, 8:48 AM

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Hi, I am Rick. Very early adopter of Docker and having the privilege of meeting Solomon back then. Very curious to see what has been cooking. My name on GitHub is rickpeters

nova knoll Apr 28, 2021, 2:50 PM

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Hello from 🇬🇷 - really excited to be here! My GH/Twitter username is akalipetis

wraith niche Apr 28, 2021, 3:27 PM

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Hello @summer oriole @warm flame @nova knoll, Welcome! I just added your github handles to the repository. Have fun! The docs are not complete yet, so feel free to ask questions here. Lots of useful answers on this channel in the last 12 hours 🙂

hasty oasis Apr 28, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Hello everyone from France ! Little curious about dagger after a call with @wraith niche. My GitHub username is wbeuil.

wraith niche Apr 28, 2021, 5:27 PM

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hasty oasis Hello everyone from France ! Little curious about dagger after a call with <@!70...

You should have access now 🙂

lyric notch Apr 28, 2021, 6:06 PM

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Hey @wraith niche, mine is eliecharra 🙏

wraith niche Apr 28, 2021, 6:07 PM

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lyric notch Hey <@707661676056674346>, mine is eliecharra 🙏

done!

lyric notch Apr 28, 2021, 6:08 PM

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Thanks 😃

winter linden Apr 29, 2021, 2:59 PM

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thank you for the PR @lyric notch , that was fast 🙂

lyric notch Apr 29, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Haha just discussed about it with Sam in his yesterday demo 😄

wraith niche Apr 29, 2021, 6:39 PM

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lyric notch Haha just discussed about it with Sam in his yesterday demo 😄

thanks @lyric notch for the PR, I suggested a change on the PR (to make always optional)

lyric notch Apr 29, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Ok ! I will fix it, I was wondering myself if it make sense to be optional as always is enforced in other aws pkg

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Welcome @torpid linden!

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lyric notch Ok ! I will fix it, I was wondering myself if it make sense to be optional as al...

I think it makes sense for s3 simply because it could be used for another use case that requires caching. But for something like a kubctl client or something that deploys, it makes sense to force always: true to make sure the underlying infra is reconciled.

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@little cairn I tracked you down on github & sent you an invite 🙂

little cairn Apr 30, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Awesome. Thank you! On mobile right now but will accept as soon as I get back to my desk 🙂

winter linden Apr 30, 2021, 5:03 AM

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Ongoing debate on code vs. configuration in CICD pipelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26986493

DrSarez

Write Gitlab CI Pipelines in Python Code

torpid linden Apr 30, 2021, 8:14 AM

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Hello! Thanks for the invitation @winter linden. I look forward to playing with the code & contributing. I'm unclejack on GitHub.

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Welcome @mint axle!

winter linden Apr 30, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Are there any known cache miss issues? My base alpine image is getting re-built more often than it should.

winter linden Apr 30, 2021, 6:26 PM

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winter linden Are there any known cache miss issues? My base alpine image is getting re-built ...

This is what gets rebuilt too often: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/.dagger/env/dev/main.cue#L23

winter linden Apr 30, 2021, 6:26 PM

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torpid linden Hello! Thanks for the invitation <@488409085998530571>. I look forward to playin...

Welcome 🙂 You should have received an invitation to the repo

torpid linden Apr 30, 2021, 6:31 PM

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winter linden Welcome 🙂 You should have received an invitation to the repo

Yes, I’ve accepted it a few seconds ago.

winter linden May 1, 2021, 12:07 AM

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winter linden This is what gets rebuilt too often: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/...

Fixed it 🙂 The problem was that I mounted a persistent cache directory (go cache) even for commands which didn’t need it (apk add). https://github.com/dagger/dagger/pull/393/commits/f81c16cef642c8ee0f9d5d9315ac5c04fb210468

cloud canyon May 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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@winter linden there's a dagger.io/go package, why not put those changes there?

winter linden May 1, 2021, 12:23 AM

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I tried but felt too constrained. Now that I used it a bit more, I’m looking at how I can reconcile

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eg. wanted to customize my container image, experiment with exporting log files to analyze test results etc

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Oh I see what you mean: you’re suggesting upstreaming the go stuff into dagger.io/go. Yes completely agree. I’m workgin on it now.

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Latest stdlib goodness:

import (
    “dagger.io/docker”
    “dagger.io/io”
)

ctr: docker.#Container & {
  command: “echo ‘hello world!’ > /etc/motd”
}

// Read the raw contents of /etc/motd
motd: {
  io.#File & {
    from: ctr
    path: “/etc/motd”
    read: format: “string”
}.read.data

// List the contents of /etc
etc: {
    io.#Dir & {
        from: ctr
        path: “/etc”
    }
}.read.tree

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io.#File has fixed a lot of headaches for me, when mixing composition of containers + wanting to export files to the config

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I don’t have to mess with low-level exports anymore, it’s completely hidden from me in stdlib

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And docker.#Container with defaults that just work is nice too 🙂 I just set a command and I’m good to go

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Also fun: quick and easy chaining of containers without messing with low-level ops:

ctr1: docker.#Container & { command: “foo” }
ctr2: docker.#Container & { image: ctr1, command: “bar” }

winter linden May 1, 2021, 1:06 AM

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winter linden Oh I see what you mean: you’re suggesting upstreaming the go stuff into `dagger....

@cloud canyon pushed here (non-breaking): https://github.com/dagger/dagger/pull/393/commits/07f5e19ac01e5348845a1e170a0d6b984690719d

winter linden May 1, 2021, 8:01 AM

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New and improved Dagger Programming Guide: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/doc/programming.md

winter linden May 1, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Writing good documentation is hard... 😅

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Double welcome, impressive

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😋

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sent

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Hello I am Walid Shaari, platform engineer, mostly operations, my github is walidshaari
I am excited, and exhausted, just over midnight in here, and do work tomorrow morning, so I will check laterz

winter linden May 1, 2021, 9:04 PM

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elfin stirrup Hello I am Walid Shaari, platform engineer, mostly operations, my github is wal...

Invite sent 🙂 Happy hacking, let us know how it goes!

elfin stirrup May 1, 2021, 9:11 PM

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skimmed through the README.md quickly, did not see Dagger vs waypoint https://www.waypointproject.io/ ??

Waypoint by HashiCorp

Waypoint is an open source solution that provides a modern workflow for build, deploy, and release across platforms.

vernal igloo May 1, 2021, 9:13 PM

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Good point Walid... Here's a general thought I had on these lines: Cue itself is introducing a really fundamentally different paradigm for manipulating infrastructure as data (vs. code). I think there is a lot of education needed to set the stage correctly for newcomers to this approach instead of comparing Dagger to the wide range of IaC tools.

winter linden May 1, 2021, 9:14 PM

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What category would you put waypoint in?

elfin stirrup May 1, 2021, 9:15 PM

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I would not put it as IaC, it is more abstracting the deployment and infra it runs on

winter linden May 1, 2021, 9:15 PM

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So paas?

elfin stirrup May 1, 2021, 9:15 PM

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most likely, Yes

winter linden May 1, 2021, 9:15 PM

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Ok then we’re good, there’s a section on Dagger vs paas 🙂

elfin stirrup May 1, 2021, 9:16 PM

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I am reading it now

winter linden May 1, 2021, 9:20 PM

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For reference: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/doc/vs.md#dagger-vs-paas-heroku-firebase-etc

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Haha

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Wow lots of familiar faces here 👋

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I'm rothgar an github. I see that's the first thing I should give

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feral timber I'm rothgar an github. I see that's the first thing I should give

Welcome 🙂 Invite sent

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swift barn May 2, 2021, 9:37 AM

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Hello everyone and thank you @winter linden for the invite

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Hello. I think my Github user still needs access (aloisreitbauer). Thx!

wraith niche May 2, 2021, 3:00 PM

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swift barn Hello. I think my Github user still needs access (aloisreitbauer). Thx!

Welcome @swift barn! You should have access now 🙂

swift barn May 2, 2021, 3:34 PM

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wraith niche Welcome <@456226577798135808>! You should have access now 🙂

Thanks

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welcome @swift barn 🙂

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autumn swallow Welcome <@!838476226397339648>!

Hi Alex, thanks for joining us!

stuck latch May 2, 2021, 6:12 PM

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Hello, lots of familiar faces 🙈 Thanks for the invitation @winter linden
My github user is AlexsJones 🚀

winter linden May 2, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Invite sent 🙂 Let us know if you have questions or issues. Big UX changes (hopefully good) coming in a couple weeks

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Cheers!

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Hey everyone 👋 thanks for the invite! my github username is sundowndev

swift barn May 3, 2021, 9:57 AM

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swift barn welcome <@456226577798135808> 🙂

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north vessel Hey everyone 👋 thanks for the invite! my github username is sundowndev

Welcome, invite sent 🙂

autumn swallowBOT May 4, 2021, 4:49 AM

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timid quiver May 4, 2021, 4:51 AM

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Woah!! This looks exciting. Thanks @winter linden for the invitation. My GitHub ID is ajeetraina

wraith niche May 4, 2021, 4:52 AM

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timid quiver Woah!! This looks exciting. Thanks <@488409085998530571> for the invitation. My ...

Hey Ajeet, welcome! I just gave you access to the project on GH. Let us know what you think!

timid quiver May 4, 2021, 4:53 AM

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Thanks @wraith niche

timid quiver May 4, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Can't wait to test this. BTW, I am Ajeet Singh Raina, DevOps evangelist & author/blogger at collabnix.com, currently based out of Bengaluru, India.

winter linden May 4, 2021, 6:05 PM

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@wraith niche what’s the query command you used in yesterday’s demo to only show outputs?

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query -I -P ?

wraith niche May 4, 2021, 6:31 PM

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winter linden <@707661676056674346> what’s the `query` command you used in yesterday’s demo t...

yep correct

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Screen_Shot_2021-05-04_at_11.31.27_AM.png

winter linden May 4, 2021, 6:35 PM

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For some reason it’s printing an empty dict in .dagger/env/dev...

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Even though it definitely has computed values... Maybe something in my config causes some output values to be not recognized as outputs?

winter linden May 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Hi @everyone . How do you all feel about doing a mini-meetup here on discord next week, to show you our progress and take questions? If anyone wants to show their dagger experiments that could be fun too. Let me know.

grim dawn May 5, 2021, 12:52 AM

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would love to participate

short breach May 5, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Likewise!

winter linden May 5, 2021, 4:18 AM

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Ok we’ll organize something and share more details tomorrow 🙂 Let me know if some days & times work better than others

timid quiver May 5, 2021, 3:07 PM

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While I test drove the first hello-world example with dagger new/up/query I felt like I am in the world of Docker Compose. Quite impressive. Can't wait for Dagger Cloud 🙂

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Still lot to explore and experiment with.

winter linden May 5, 2021, 3:24 PM

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@timid quiver you can actually include your existing compose files in your dagger environment 🙂 Since cue has builtin yaml support

timid quiver May 5, 2021, 3:27 PM

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I am going through the cue tutorial. Surely, I wanna try out compose file.

winter linden May 5, 2021, 3:28 PM

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The API for file access needs a little work, but you can do:

import (
  “encoding/yaml”
  “dagger.io/os”
  “dagger.io/dagger”
)

source: dagger.#Artifact

compose: os.#File { from: source, path: “docker-compose.yaml” }

services: yaml.Unmarshal(compose.read.data)

www: services.www

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dagger input dir source ./path/to/project

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or dagger input git source https://github.com/path/to/repo master

timid quiver May 5, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Will try it out.

autumn swallowBOT May 5, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Welcome @warped meteor!

torpid linden May 5, 2021, 6:54 PM

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winter linden Hi @everyone . How do you all feel about doing a mini-meetup here on discord nex...

I’d join, too. It’d be great to learn more about the use cases.

timid quiver May 6, 2021, 3:03 PM

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winter linden `dagger input dir source ./path/to/project`

Looking at https://github.com/dagger/dagger/pull/332, I do see we have dagger input yaml <TARGET> [-f] <VALUE|PATH> [flags] that I can leverage directly for Docker compose . Right?

winter linden May 6, 2021, 3:05 PM

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If you want the compose file to be a user input to your deployment environment , yes. You can also take an input directory, then get the file from there

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Hi @candid pasture @upper roost , welcome! Your invites are on the way.

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Welcome @wanton thorn @mossy turtle and @crude pollen! I gave you access to the github repo, have fun 🙂

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Hello, I'm @mogul on GitHub.

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warped meteor Hello, I'm @mogul on GitHub.

Hello, invite sent!

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Hi 👋 I'm @Oursin on GitHub

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hot shuttle Hi 👋 I'm @Oursin on GitHub

Hey, you're in!

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Hey 👋 thx for the invitation @wispy tapir I'm PoC Innovation ex-president and a colleague of @hot shuttle. My github is loicttn :)

wraith niche May 7, 2021, 10:28 PM

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lethal breach Hey 👋 thx for the invitation <@281874480651829250> I'm PoC Innovation ex-presid...

Hello and welcome! I just gave you access to the repo.

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@here We now have binary releases of dagger: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/main/doc/install.md

I strongly encourage everyone to switch to it (instead of compiling from source), the latest release aims to be more stable and will automatically notify you when a new version is available.

swift barn May 7, 2021, 11:13 PM

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wraith niche @here We now have binary releases of dagger: https://github.com/dagger/dagger/bl...

ok whos buying the domain and suffix get.dagger.sh 🙂
works awesomely @wraith niche

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tested on mac/linux/wsl

wraith niche May 7, 2021, 11:14 PM

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swift barn ok whos buying the domain and suffix get.dagger.sh 🙂 works awesomely <@!7076...

oh nice, thanks for testing this out!

swift barn May 7, 2021, 11:15 PM

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wraith niche oh nice, thanks for testing this out!

i got you fam

timid quiver May 8, 2021, 2:06 AM

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@wraith niche Tested it on Catalina and the binaries worked like a charm

wraith niche May 8, 2021, 2:09 AM

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timid quiver <@!707661676056674346> Tested it on Catalina and the binaries worked like a char...

Thanks for the feedback, really appreciated!

timid quiver May 8, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Tested it on $59 Jetson Nano and it worked great on ARM platform too 🙂

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Linux pico1 4.9.140-tegra #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 16 12:32:46 PDT 2020 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
pico@pico1:~$ dagger version
dagger version 0.1.0-alpha.3 linux/arm64
pico@pico1:~$

winter linden May 8, 2021, 2:26 AM

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looks up jetson nano

timid quiver May 8, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Do we have an example how to pass configuration variables for Heroku? For example, I want to leverage marketplace.json https://github.com/redis-developer/basic-rate-limiting-demo-python/blob/master/marketplace.json ```import (
"dagger.io/git"
"dagger.io/github"
"dagger.io/heroku"

)

repo: git.#Repository & {
remote: "git clone https://github.com/redis-developer/basic-rate-limiting-demo-python"
ref: "master"

}

backend: environment: {
REDIS_URL: database.url
REDIS_HOST: database.hostname
REDIS_PASSWORD: database.password
REDIS_DB: database.dbName
REDIS_PORT: "(database.port)"
}

backend: heroku.#App & {
// Heroku configuration values
}```

GitHub

redis-developer/basic-rate-limiting-demo-python

This repo shows a basic rate limiting demo in Python and Django - redis-developer/basic-rate-limiting-demo-python

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cue import marketplace.json looks really cool

winter linden May 10, 2021, 3:20 PM

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timid quiver Do we have an example how to pass configuration variables for Heroku? For exampl...

Do you mean passing environment variables to the heroku app?

autumn swallowBOT May 10, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Welcome @fallow solstice!

fallow solstice May 10, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Hello 😄 Thanks for the invite 🙂 My github username is alexisrobert

winter linden May 10, 2021, 3:34 PM

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fallow solstice Hello 😄 Thanks for the invite 🙂 My github username is alexisrobert

Hi Alexis, invite is on the way 🙂

winter linden May 12, 2021, 5:13 AM

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We released 0.1.0-alpha.4 today. Mostly bug fixes, and a new package dagger.io/os for simple system operations.

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Next big change will be a revamped CLI flow that wors better with your existing git flow. It’s pretty slick 🙂

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Also in the pipe:

Native encrypted secrets
Multi-tenancy for sharing settings across environments (infra team configures the infra; app team deploys without needing any infra credentials)
Documentation site
Gitops mode for experts. Review plan & input changes in a pull request, merge, boom they’re applied across all envs

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Thank you all for your feedback, it’s very appreciated!

patent stirrup May 13, 2021, 1:24 AM

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white house just published this: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/05/12/executive-order-on-improving-the-nations-cybersecurity/

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so the question is... how can dagger help? 🙂

winter linden May 13, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Interesting! Not surprising as the US government is under heavy attack online atm

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I guess Dagger would be relevant as a framework to upgrade existing CICD pipelines with devsecops capabilities, without requiring rip and replace. In a government setting that is a game changer because there are so many overlapping layers of legacy and IT jurisdictions. Rip & replace is doomed to fail.

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Dagger is a good fit for incremental upgrades since you can glue it to any system

patent stirrup May 13, 2021, 2:54 AM

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yea, predictable change

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super important

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we need automation to secure things

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there's also a knowledge issue

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as we innovate, we lose institutional knowledge because older knowledge becomes irrelevant

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this is a direct threat to building and securing systems, we must constantly upskill and reduce gatekeeping to the industry

timid quiver May 13, 2021, 4:46 AM

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Upgraded to Alpha 5 today. Deployed a static page to AWS S3 bucket using dagger and it worked like a charm.

Screenshot_2021-05-13_at_10.13.29_AM.png

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I badly need dagger delete now

timid quiver May 13, 2021, 6:07 AM

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The dagger help version has nothing to do with Global flags. ```dagger help version
Print dagger version

Usage:
dagger version [flags]

Flags:
--check check if dagger is up to date
-h, --help help for version

Global Flags:
-e, --environment string Select an environment
--log-format string Log format (json, pretty). Defaults to json if the terminal is not a tty
-l, --log-level string Log level (default "info")
ajeetraina@Ajeets-MacBook-Pro simple-s3 %

timid quiver May 13, 2021, 11:06 AM

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Glad to see that https://github.com/dagger/dagger/pull/462 gonna taken care of this. Thanks @wispy tapir

wispy tapir May 13, 2021, 12:46 PM

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timid quiver Glad to see that https://github.com/dagger/dagger/pull/462 gonna taken care of t...

The pleasure is mine 😉

autumn swallowBOT May 13, 2021, 9:14 PM

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Welcome @frank fossil!

frank fossil May 13, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Ooh la la happy to be here! Hi everyone I'm Angie from San Francisco. Not a coder (yet, I'm just learning!) but I do write words! And I'm a super fast learner so soon I'll be up to speed with you veterans 🙂