crisp quiver
Simple idea that I searched around and, incredibly, found no mentions of. The ability to place semaphore signals at 45° orientations for better visibility on diagonal tracks.
I initially thought 360/16 like vanilla signs for maximum flexibility around long curves, though considering signals can't be placed on very long curves this wouldn't be very necessary. 45° would probably cover most cases just fine.
What do you guys think?
prime osprey
Oh yeah. I have this when designing curves it’s a pain in the ass. Might as well do metal girders as well
merry crypt
Yes
sudden urchin
This was one of my biggest annoyances with this mod last year, I had so many diagonally running tracks
void path
Yes please
foggy lintel
also putting my vote in for this
limpid cedar
no :p
iirc they were ruled as impossible but even if they arent, this breaks the game's artstyle
well
I mean,
meh. debatable ig but
its just kinda a non-issue
prime osprey
iirc they were ruled as impossible but even if they arent, this breaks the game'...
From what I last remember. Mods have the liberty of breaking art styles. Also create blocks all break the dam art style and simplicity of Minecraft. Who Tf cares
It’s just a fence post that we want the ability to turn it on an angle
It’s not that crazy of an idea
45 degree tracks exist. If your driving and can’t see the semaphore that tells you to stop, cause of its awkward angle. Then well whoops! You just derailed your train
limpid cedar
45 degree tracks exist. If your driving and can’t see the semaphore that tells y...
unless youre just not paying attention, semaphore lights are bright and visible as fuck
regardless of orientation youll still be able to see em
foggy lintel
yea I have made regular 90° semaphores work, it just looks wrong
limpid cedar
From what I last remember. Mods have the liberty of breaking art styles. Also cr...
meh, not really
good mods work with the artstyle the best they can, create is good because it does this & utilizes existing textures where it can
prime osprey
Sure. But consistency is just as dam important. If you have 45 degree tracks then have 45 degree semaphores
limpid cedar
what about tracks that arent exactly 45 degrees
severe fjord
What about tracks that aren't exactly 90 degrees :P
limpid cedar
that too
prime osprey
That’s just curve angles at that point. You can have many straight lenghts of track at 45 degree angles. But not consistent let’s say 30 degree angles. Cause you need to manipulate curves to do so
severe fjord
point is, one extra set of orientations for the semaphore wouldn't hurt
limpid cedar
its just genuinely not worth the effort im gonna be real
severe fjord
Ur not the one putting the effort in
limpid cedar
true ! but there are other things Im still waiting on to be put into the mod thatd Id much rather see than smth as meaningless as 45 degree semaphores
limpid cedar
its just pointless
I really dont wanna boot up my game to prove this
guess I have to tho :p
severe fjord
nah
Just because you think something is pointless does not mean others don't
people are allowed to have different opinions than you Pink
limpid cedar
theres no real having an opinion here it just is pointless & the people who're making a big deal out of it are being irrational
thats just. how it is
limpid cedar
theres no real having an opinion here it just is pointless & the people who're m...
and again.
severe fjord
You saying "it's pointless" is not objective fact
limpid cedar
its stupid
severe fjord
that's an opinion
limpid cedar
theres no going around it
severe fjord
that's also an opinion
limpid cedar
youre using one phrase to void an entire statement
severe fjord
I am using one phrase to qualify your statement
limpid cedar
you dont want to actually address what im saying
severe fjord
I am addressing it, by saying what you're saying is not what everyone thinks
limpid cedar
youre not adressing it, youre directly not adressing it
severe fjord
Here's the thing.
How do I address it? Say "no, it's not stupid?"
Your statement is excessively hostile
And also doesn't address the fact that others don't think it's stupid.
limpid cedar
Id rather hear you just agree with them outright honestly
severe fjord
What if the world was made of pudding
Point is, you have a bad habit of reactively stating your opinion on train-related things as sterling fact and then acting in a hostile manner towards people who point out that you're not the only one who wants train-related parts.
limpid cedar
here.
Its completely visible
this is what ive always done and its what everyone else has always done
limpid cedar
It does
severe fjord
Nah
limpid cedar
theres nothing that needs changed because there was no problem to begin with
severe fjord
Naah
limpid cedar
yyyaah
severe fjord
In that case, we don't need to implement new bogies, cuz the current ones work fine
There's no problem with them, right?
limpid cedar
In that case, we don't need to implement new bogies, cuz the current ones work f...
they dont. thats why we're adding new ones
limpid cedar
there are certain classes of bogies that dont exist that are necessary
severe fjord
Why are they necessary? Trains just need wheels, right?
limpid cedar
theres nothing wrong with the current ones but theyre not the full picture at all
severe fjord
Cool! And semaphores have more than four rotations in the full picture. ;]
limpid cedar
severe fjord
Anyway, I'll put this on the todo list so it gets done at some point
limpid cedar
your argument doesnt work because 45 degree semaphores are menial and youre making a big deal out of a problem that does not exist
the bogeys are a problem because we physically dont have larger classes to represent larger irl drivewheels rn
we also dont have realistic motions or valve gears
limpid cedar
Bogeys have near infinite potential
semaphores have been in the mod for forever
severe fjord
And?
severe fjord
If it's not a problem, why are you so vehemently against it? What's the issue in adding it to the list?
You are a very combative person, Pink
limpid cedar
because its not a problem. it's pointless to put energy into something that can go easily ignored
severe fjord
I'm gonna remember that the next time you want to tweak something because you don't like it
limpid cedar
I'm gonna remember that the next time you want to tweak something because you do...
I point out things when there are genuine visual inconsistencies or problems.
limpid cedar
here.
Its completely visible
this is to be expected and therefore fine, there's no issue here. It's minecraft. only Heads can be rotated in such a manner '
well heads, banners, signs
what else
mmm not much
severe fjord
Armor stands
severe fjord
nah
limpid cedar
if we add 35 degree semaphores
severe fjord
45
limpid cedar
we're going to need matching girders. & then we're going to have to do every possible girder shape in 45 degrees.
severe fjord
No?
limpid cedar
then the signal block itself because That's also offset
severe fjord
The semaphore is already mounted on a carrier of sorts
The funny top and bottom bits
we literally just. Rotate that
Just the inner bit the semaphore sits on
limpid cedar
and then we reach a visual inconsistency with the girder not matching the rotation of the semaphore
severe fjord
I fail to see the issue
limpid cedar
we'd need a fully new model because the existing one is not designed to fit in that angle
severe fjord
We just. Rotate the model 45 degrees
limpid cedar
it doesnt work like that
severe fjord
I think you'll find it does
limpid cedar
vi you dont actually take the time to think about things
severe fjord
You take too much time to think about them
limpid cedar
ugh Ill just draw it give me 5 minutes
severe fjord
Why don't you make a model for the semaphore that can actually rotate 45 degrees on its post without looking weird
limpid cedar
You take too much time to think about them
I take all the time thats necessary to make sure something fucking Works and properly Fits within the boundaries of what were supposed to be doing
everything has Rules
limpid cedar
and if you cant respect that, make your own fucking game
severe fjord
This is magic and creepers and enchantments and sentient fireplaces
There are guidelines but no hard and fast YOU MUST BUILD YOUR TRAIN THIS ONE WAY rules
the very nature of the game prevents that
limpid cedar
those things are within the artstyle and rules of the game