✅ | Animated custom sliding hotbar selection image element?

[low dirge]

I have an image element which i want to move x pixels left or right depending on which hotbar slot is hovered, how would i do that

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[flint pond]

If you mean the currently selected hotbar slot (not mouse hover), then yes, do it with Advanced Positioning and the active_hotbar_slot placeholder 👀

Simple setup:

1. Put your Image element in the HUD layout.
2. Right-click it → Advanced Positioning.
3. Set the X position with a calc placeholder like this:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"BASE_X + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * SLOT_WIDTH)"}} 

Replace:

• BASE_X = X position of slot 0
• SLOT_WIDTH = distance between hotbar slots

Example if slot 0 starts at 100 and each slot is 20px apart:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"100 + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 20)"}}

Important:

• active_hotbar_slot goes from 0 to 8
• Keep the Y position fixed
• If your image should be centered on the slot, subtract half of the image width from the X value

About “hovered”

• The docs I have do not show a built-in “hovered hotbar slot” value
• So for the vanilla hotbar, this is normally done with the selected slot, not hover

If you want, I can help you calculate the exact BASE_X / SLOT_WIDTH formula for your specific hotbar size 🤝

[low dirge]

i have an 8 slot custom hotbar element thats 182x22 at x position 229 how do i translate that so the selector aligns with every slot

[flint pond]

Yep, if you mean the currently selected hotbar slot, use active_hotbar_slot and a slot width based on your bar size 🤝

Your bar is:

• X start: 229
• Width: 182
• Slots: 8

So each slot is:

• 182 / 8 = 22.75 px

Use this for the selector’s X position in Advanced Positioning:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"229 + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 22.75)"}}

If the selector image should be centered on the slot, then add half a slot and subtract half the selector width:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"229 + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 22.75) + 11.375 - (SELECTOR_WIDTH / 2)"}}

A couple of notes:

• active_hotbar_slot is 0 to 8 in vanilla
• If your hotbar truly has only 8 slots, you may need a small manual tweak because 182 / 8 is not a whole number
• If it’s slightly off, nudge the base 229 by 1–2 pixels until it lines up perfectly 👀

If you want, I can also give you the exact X positions for all 8 slots as a ready-made list.

[low dirge]

will this be monitor resolution adaptive

[flint pond]

Not if you hardcode 229 and 182, that will only line up for the same GUI scale / layout size you tested on 🤔

For it to be resolution-adaptive, base the selector position on the hotbar element itself, not fixed screen pixels.

A better setup is:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} / 8))"}}

If you want the selector centered on each slot, add half a slot and subtract half the selector width:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} / 8)) + ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} / 16) - (SELECTOR_WIDTH / 2)"}}

A few important notes:

• This assumes your hotbar element has the ID custom_hotbar
• active_hotbar_slot is the selected slot index
• 8 is the number of slots in your custom hotbar
• If the hotbar itself is already positioned/resized responsively, the selector will follow that too

If you want, I can turn this into the exact final placeholder string for your selector width.

[low dirge]

also mb it does have 9 slots,

[flint pond]

Yep, then it should be divided by 9, not 8 🤓

If you want it to stay adaptive, use the hotbar element’s position and width:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} / 9))"}}

If you want the selector to sit centered on each slot, use:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} / 9)) + ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"custom_hotbar"}} / 18) - (YOUR_SELECTOR_WIDTH / 2)"}}

For your 182 px bar:

• slot width = 182 / 9 = 20.222...

So if needed, you can also hardcode it like:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"229 + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 20.222222)"}}

If you want, I can turn this into the exact final string for your selector size too 👀

[low dirge]

the selector is 22 width but it isnt responding to either of these

[flint pond]

Got it, if it’s not moving at all, the most likely problem is one of these 👀

1. custom_hotbar was not the real element ID

   • You need to use the hotbar element’s actual identifier from Right-click element → Copy Element Identifier.

2. You mean hovered slot, but FancyMenu only gives us the selected slot

   • The docs I have only show active_hotbar_slot, which is the currently selected hotbar slot.
   • I don’t have a doc for a true “hovered hotbar slot” placeholder.

3. The position field may not be updating live in the way you expect

   • The safest way is to push the value into a variable with a Ticker, then use that variable for the selector’s X position.

For your bar, the slot step is:

• 182 / 9 = 20.222222...

If you want the selector centered on each slot, try this with the real hotbar element ID:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} / 9)) - 1"}}

Because your selector is 22 px wide, that - 1 is the small centering correction.

If that still doesn’t move, do this instead:

• Create a Ticker
• Update a variable like selector_x
• Set the selector’s X position to:

{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"selector_x"}}

If you want, send me:

• the hotbar element ID
• whether you want selected slot or true mouse hover
• and your /logs/latest.log right after testing

Then I can pinpoint why it isn’t reacting 🛑

[low dirge]

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * ({"placeholder":"elementwidth","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} / 9)) - 1"}}

nvm this started working but the position is slightly off on the last 3 slots on the left and right

[flint pond]

Yep, that drift is because 182 / 9 is not the real slot spacing here 😅

For a 9-slot hotbar, the selector step is usually 20 px per slot, and the extra 2 px are just padding on the bar.

Use this:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"229 + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 20)"}}

If slot 0 is off by 1 pixel, just nudge the base 229 to 228 or 230.

So the rule of thumb is:

• step = 20
• base X = your bar’s left edge, adjusted by 1 px if needed

If you want, I can help you make the selector snap perfectly by giving you the exact X for all 9 slots 📐

[low dirge]

okay rewrite the whole thing with that change

[flint pond]

Yep, here’s the rewritten version with the 20 px slot step 📐

Use this for the selector’s X position:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 20) - 1"}}

What this does:

• elementposx = left edge of your hotbar
• active_hotbar_slot = selected slot index
• 20 = distance between slots
• - 1 = centers your 22 px selector better

If it’s still a tiny bit off, only tweak the last number:

• - 2
• - 1
• 0

That last pixel is usually just manual fine-tuning 😅

[low dirge]

neat it works now, i just removed the last number -

although curious can we make it so when scrolling it's actually sliding animated

[flint pond]

Yep, but not directly from the raw X placeholder alone 😄

FancyMenu doesn’t seem to have a built-in “smoothly tween this position” toggle for placeholder-driven movement, so the best workaround is:

1. Keep your current working X formula as the target
2. Animate a separate X variable toward that target
3. Use that animated variable as the selector’s X position

Simple setup

1) Make the selector use a variable for X

Set the selector image’s X position to:

{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"selector_x"}}

2) Store the real slot position in another variable

Use a Ticker to update selector_target_x with your working formula, for example:

selector_target_x:{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"true","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposx","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} + ({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} * 20)"}}

3) Smoothly move selector_x toward it

In the same Ticker, set selector_x to:

selector_x:{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"true","expression":"{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"selector_x"}} + (({"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"selector_target_x"}} - {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"selector_x"}}) * 0.35)"}}

What the 0.35 does

• Higher value = snappier
• Lower value = smoother/slower

Try:

• 0.25 for soft glide
• 0.35 for a nice responsive slide
• 0.5 for pretty snappy movement

Important

• Use decimal":"true" for the smoothing variable
• You may want to initialize selector_x to the current target once when the screen opens, so it doesn’t start from 0

If you want, I can write the full exact Ticker action script for this so you can paste it in directly 👌

[low dirge]

okay back to the selector can we make the y position to match the hotbar's

[flint pond]

Yes 👍

If you want the selector to follow the hotbar’s vertical position, set its Y position to the hotbar element’s Y:

{"placeholder":"elementposy","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}}

If your selector is also 22 px tall like the hotbar, that should line up directly.

If it’s still a pixel or two off, just add a tiny offset, for example:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"elementposy","values":{"id":"YOUR_HOTBAR_ID"}} + 1"}}

So:

• same height → use the hotbar Y directly
• slightly off → add + 1 or - 1

If you want, I can rewrite both the X and Y formulas together as one clean final setup for you 🤝

[low dirge]

can we make it (as well as the hotbar, and slots) work like autohud in that it slides down and hides after a few seconds when not in use

way i see this is set all their loading requirement to be a variable checker

[flint pond]

Yes, but not with loading requirements alone 😄

A requirement like hotbar_visible:true is good for show/hide, but it will not create the sliding animation by itself.

Best setup

Use two parts:

1) Visibility control

Set the hotbar, slots, and selector to only show when a variable is true:

• requirement: Is Variable Value
• value: hotbar_visible:true

2) Slide animation

Use either:

• an Element Animator for the Y movement, or
• a variable-driven Y position that moves smoothly

Important detail

If you put the visibility requirement on the whole hotbar layout, then that layout will unload when hidden.

So the thing that turns hotbar_visible back on must live in:

• a separate always-loaded layout, or
• a scheduler/ticker that is not part of the hidden group

How to make it AutoHUD-like

Use a small controller that:

• sets hotbar_visible to true when the selected slot changes
• remembers the last time that happened
• sets hotbar_visible to false after a few seconds of no activity

Your slot change trigger can use:

• active_hotbar_slot

Recommended result

• hotbar_visible = true → bar slides up in
• hotbar_visible = false → bar slides down out
• selector and slots follow the same system

If you want, I can write you the exact variable + ticker setup for this next 🤝

[low dirge]

lesdoit

[flint pond]

Yep, let’s do it 😄

Best way: don’t use loading requirements for the slide itself.
Use them only if you want a hard hide/show. For the AutoHUD-style slide, use a moving Y variable instead.

Setup idea

You’ll want:

• hotbar_anim_y → actual Y used by the hotbar
• hotbar_target_y → where the hotbar should move to
• hotbar_timer → counts down after last slot change
• last_hotbar_slot → remembers the last selected slot

1) Make the hotbar move with a variable

Set the hotbar root element’s Y position to:

{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_anim_y"}}

Then make your selector and slot elements anchored to the hotbar root so they move with it.

2) Use 2 Y positions

Pick:

• VISIBLE_Y = the normal hotbar Y
• HIDDEN_Y = a bit lower, so it slides off-screen

Example:

• visible: 378
• hidden: 406

3) Controller ticker

Put a Ticker in a separate always-loaded layout.

Make it run every 50 ms or so.

Logic

• If active_hotbar_slot changed:
  • set hotbar_target_y to VISIBLE_Y
  • set hotbar_timer to something like 40 ticks
  • update last_hotbar_slot
• Else:
  • count hotbar_timer down
  • when it hits 0, set hotbar_target_y to HIDDEN_Y

Smooth slide

Also update hotbar_anim_y every tick toward hotbar_target_y with:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"true","expression":"{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_anim_y"}} + (({"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_target_y"}} - {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_anim_y"}}) * 0.25)"}}

4) Important

If you want the hotbar to come back when you scroll/change slots, the controller must stay loaded somewhere else, not inside the hotbar layout itself.

What this gives you

• change slot → hotbar slides in
• no slot changes for a few seconds → hotbar slides down and hides
• selector and slots follow the same movement

If you want, I can write the exact Ticker action script in FancyMenu-style step form for you next 🤝

[low dirge]

this seems like it might break the current setup, how about we just make the opacity of these elements altogether be dependent on whether the hotbar has been in use for x seconds

[flint pond]

Yes, that’s the safer way 👍
It won’t mess with your current positioning setup, because you’re only changing visibility by opacity, not moving anything.

Recommended setup

Use one opacity variable for all hotbar parts, for example:

• hotbar_alpha

Set it on:

• the hotbar
• the slot images
• the selector image

Then set each element’s opacity to:

{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_alpha"}}

How to drive it

Use a Ticker in the same layout that:

1. checks whether the hotbar was used recently
2. sets hotbar_alpha to 1 while active
3. sets hotbar_alpha to 0 after x seconds of inactivity

Best trigger

Since the docs don’t show a direct “hotbar scrolled” event, the most reliable way is:

• watch active_hotbar_slot
• store the last slot in a variable like last_hotbar_slot
• when it changes, refresh the timer

If you also want item usage to keep it visible, you can include:

• is_player_using_item

Simple behavior

• slot changes → opacity becomes 1
• no use for x seconds → opacity becomes 0

If you want it smoother

You can also make hotbar_alpha slowly fade from 1 to 0 instead of instantly dropping. That’s the cleaner “AutoHUD” feel 😄

If you want, I can write the exact ticker logic for:

1. instant hide after delay, or
2. smooth fade-out after delay

[low dirge]

smooth fade in and out maybe?

[flint pond]

Yes, that’s the cleanest way 👍

For a smooth hide/show, I’d use:

• a boolean variable like hotbar_visible
• Loading Requirements on the hotbar, slots, and selector
• FancyMenu’s built-in fading for the elements

Recommended setup

1) Add the requirement

On the hotbar, every slot element, and the selector:

• right-click element
• Loading Requirements
• add Is Variable Value
• set it to:

hotbar_visible:true

2) Enable fading

On those same elements:

• right-click element
• enable the built-in fading feature
• set the fade speed to whatever feels right

That way:

• when hotbar_visible becomes true → it fades in
• when it becomes false → it fades out

3) Drive the variable with a ticker

Put a Ticker in an always-loaded layout, and have it:

• set hotbar_visible:true when the hotbar is used
• wait x seconds after the last use
• then set hotbar_visible:false

A good trigger is:

• active_hotbar_slot changing
• optionally also is_player_using_item

Important

I’d use this method instead of opacity-placeholder tweening, because the docs specifically support fading on load/unload, and it’s much simpler and safer 😄

If you want, I can write the exact ticker logic next, either:

• slot-change only
• or slot-change + item use

[low dirge]

slot change only please

[flint pond]

Yep 👍
Here’s the slot-change-only version, with smooth fade in/out.

What to use

Use these variables:

• hotbar_visible = true/false
• hotbar_timeout = number of seconds left
• last_hotbar_slot = the last selected slot

On the hotbar / slots / selector

Add this loading requirement to all of them:

• Is Variable Value
• hotbar_visible:true

Then enable fading on those elements so they fade in/out when the variable changes.

Controller Ticker

Put this in a separate always-loaded layout so it keeps running even while the hotbar is hidden.

Set it to tick every 1000 ms.

Logic

1. If the selected slot changed:

   • set hotbar_visible:true
   • set hotbar_timeout:3 ← change this to however many seconds you want
   • set last_hotbar_slot to the current active_hotbar_slot

2. Else if hotbar_timeout > 0:

   • subtract 1

3. Else:

   • set hotbar_visible:false

Useful expressions

Detect slot change

Use this as the comparison value:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"abs({"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"} - {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"last_hotbar_slot"}})"}}

If that result is > 0, the slot changed.

Decrease the timeout

Use:

{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}} - 1"}}

Important

Initialize last_hotbar_slot once at the start, or the hotbar may briefly show on first load. If you want, I can write the exact FancyMenu action script block-by-block next 😄

[low dirge]

a little confusing, try explaining that again to me

[flint pond]

Of course, here’s the simple version 😄

The idea

You make the hotbar parts depend on one variable:

• hotbar_visible

If that variable is true:

• hotbar
• slots
• selector

...are shown, and they fade in.

If it becomes false:

• they fade out and hide.

What you put on the hotbar elements

On each of these elements:

• hotbar
• slot images
• selector

add this loading requirement:

• Is Variable Value
• hotbar_visible:true

Then enable the element’s built-in fading option.

What watches for slot changes

Use a Ticker in a layout that stays loaded all the time.

Its job is just:

• look at active_hotbar_slot
• compare it to last_hotbar_slot

If the slot changed:

• set hotbar_visible to true
• reset a timeout like 3 seconds
• save the new slot number into last_hotbar_slot

If the slot did not change:

• count the timeout down
• when it reaches 0, set hotbar_visible to false

In plain English

So the flow is:

1. You scroll to another slot
2. The ticker notices the slot changed
3. It shows the hotbar again
4. It waits a few seconds
5. If you do nothing, it hides again with a fade

Important part

The ticker must be in a layout that is always loaded.

If you put it in the same layout that hides, it will stop running when the hotbar disappears, and then it can’t bring itself back 🤭

If you want, I can now turn this into a very simple “do this / then this” setup with the exact variables and values to use.

[low dirge]

how do i set that up in the ticker action script

[flint pond]

Yep, here’s the exact ticker action script setup, kept simple 😄

First: ticker settings

Set the ticker to run every:

• 1000 ms

That way the timeout counts in seconds.

Ticker action script

Right-click the ticker → Edit Action Script → build this:

1) IF the hotbar slot changed

Add an IF statement with this requirement:

• Is Number
• Mode: not-equals
• Number: {"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"}
• Compare With: {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"last_hotbar_slot"}}

Inside that IF block, add these actions:

• Set Variable Value → hotbar_visible:true
• Set Variable Value → hotbar_timeout:3
• Set Variable Value → last_hotbar_slot:{"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"}

2) ELSE: count the timeout down

Append an ELSE statement to that IF.

Inside the ELSE, add another IF statement with this requirement:

• Is Number
• Mode: bigger-than
• Number: {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}}
• Compare With: 0

Inside this inner IF, add:

• Set Variable Value → hotbar_timeout:{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}} - 1"}}

Inside the inner ELSE, add:

• Set Variable Value → hotbar_visible:false

So the flow becomes

• slot changes → show hotbar, reset timer to 3
• no slot changes → timer counts down
• timer hits 0 → hide hotbar

Don’t forget

On the hotbar, slots, and selector:

• add loading requirement hotbar_visible:true
• enable fading on those elements

One small note

If last_hotbar_slot is empty at first, the hotbar may briefly show once on load.
If that happens, just set last_hotbar_slot to the current selected slot once manually in Manage Variables.

If you want, I can also write this in a compact “click here, add this, then this” checklist version 🤝

[low dirge]

there is no "not equals" condition

[flint pond]

You’re right, there is no “not equals” condition in the docs 😅
My bad.

Use this instead

Top-level IF

Add an IF statement with:

• Requirement: Is Number
• Mode: equals
• Number: {"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"}
• Compare With: {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"last_hotbar_slot"}}

That means: “if the slot did not change”.

Inside that IF

Add another IF:

• Requirement: Is Number
• Mode: bigger-than
• Number: {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}}
• Compare With: 0

Inside this inner IF

Add:

hotbar_timeout:{"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}} - 1"}}

Inner ELSE

Add:

hotbar_visible:false

Top-level ELSE

This means the slot changed.

Inside it add:

hotbar_visible:true
hotbar_timeout:3
last_hotbar_slot:{"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"}

Result

• same slot as before → countdown runs
• timeout hits 0 → hide hotbar
• different slot → show hotbar and reset timer

Important

Make sure the ticker runs every:

1000 ms

And keep hotbar_visible:true as the loading requirement on:

• hotbar
• slot elements
• selector

with fading enabled on those elements.

If you want, I can turn this into a clean exact tree view of the action script next 🤝

[low dirge]

what would the outline of these look like

[flint pond]

Sure 🤓 Here’s the outline of the ticker action script:

Ticker (runs every 1000 ms)

├─ IF
│  Requirement:
│  - Is Number
│  - Mode: equals
│  - Number: {"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"}
│  - Compare With: {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"last_hotbar_slot"}}
│
│  ├─ IF
│  │  Requirement:
│  │  - Is Number
│  │  - Mode: bigger-than
│  │  - Number: {"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}}
│  │  - Compare With: 0
│  │
│  │  └─ Action:
│  │     - Set Variable Value
│  │       hotbar_timeout = {"placeholder":"calc","values":{"decimal":"false","expression":"{"placeholder":"getvariable","values":{"name":"hotbar_timeout"}} - 1"}}
│  │
│  └─ ELSE
│     └─ Action:
│        - Set Variable Value
│          hotbar_visible:false
│
└─ ELSE
   ├─ Action:
   │  - Set Variable Value
   │    hotbar_visible:true
   ├─ Action:
   │  - Set Variable Value
   │    hotbar_timeout:3
   └─ Action:
      - Set Variable Value
        last_hotbar_slot:{"placeholder":"active_hotbar_slot"}

What this means

• Top IF = slot stayed the same
  • then it counts down the timer
• Top ELSE = slot changed
  • then it shows the hotbar again and resets the timer

Don’t forget

On the hotbar, selector, and slot elements:

• add loading requirement: hotbar_visible:true
• enable fading on those elements

If you want, I can also give you the same thing as a super short “click this, then that” setup list 👋

[flint pond]

✅ | Animated custom sliding hotbar selection image element?