#Persona series discussion

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toxic swallow
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I Have discovered

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P A N C A K E

gray tiger
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so uh. P5R, I just hit the scene where the press conference got nice boat’d

wise charm
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OH. MY. GOD.

candid cargo
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Two people experiencing the fun today

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though I don't remember if this is your first playthrough or not KK

gray tiger
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It is!

candid cargo
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yay

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More people getting confused by things!

gray tiger
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Hence all my complaints about it LMAO

candid cargo
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But yeah after you finish the casino palace is where the fun begins

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It's why it's my favorite 😄

gray tiger
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Yeah that’s what I’ve been told

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It's just so aesthetic 🤌

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And Whims of Fate slaps

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wise charm
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literally a combo of two games I'm playing right now lmao

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toxic swallow
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I WANT THE STEELBOOK BUT ALREADY GOT THE GAME

gray tiger
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November P5R ||Just got the big reveal and it feels…really unsatisfying. Like it feels like the way they write the rules is in such a way that it makes no sense other than to specifically curate to this situation (like the logic doesn’t feel sound unless you look at it from the angle of “we had to do it this way to make this work,”) and it just feels incredibly deus ex machina while simultaneously almost…arrogant feeling in how it presents everything working? iunno. it just feels really empty which is a huge letdown after a beautifully designed palace.||

gray tiger
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so now that i am more calmed down after sleeping on that wall of text earlier, i have one main takeaway, which is ||why the FUCK did we have to do ANY of these heists, a whole drive through the desert with no AC, and so much more when we could just FUCKIN WARP RIGHT TO THE TREASURE?||

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gray tiger
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gray tiger
# candid cargo I get what you mean but I think it does still make sense. The logic of || the l...

Tbh there’s a Whole Long List Of Points That Don’t Make Sense To Me, but ||the top one to me is the fact that Sae, left alive and introduced to the information that 1) Joker not only bested her inside her palace through combat, but ALSO put her on the backfoot during their interrogation and shook her understanding of…basically everything to its entire core AND recruited her sister, and 2) Akechi is introduced as a traitor, absolutely batshit crazy, and via joker’s retelling, involved in the pursuit in such a way that not only was he higher clearance than Sae, but higher clearance in a way that suggests Sae’s entire body of work at the SIU was purely for other’s personal gain; does not either perceive Joker, Akechi or Both as such an imminent and intense threat that one if not both would be in costume during the shooting despite the extended radius from the casino, nor does she hit the point of being able to have an awakening.||

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Additionally, ||both cognitive and physical joker would be present in the metaverse during the shot, and Akechi would ABSOLUTELY see through the slight discrepancies as cognitive joker is actually shot while physical joker copies the motions||

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ionic nymph
# gray tiger The warp being ||when Futaba uses the button to throw Sae and Akechi into the me...

||I think the rule is that you have to leave the metaverse from the same place you enter, not the other way around. They enter from the same spot each time they infiltrate because that's the closest they can get to starting inside her palace, but in the flashback they also implied that they went into Sae's metaverse in places not near where the actual palace was to check to make sure that everything else was pretty much exactly the same||

gray tiger
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||Ah, I forgot a little tidbit: it’s Akechi who would see the costume as a dead giveaway to the fact they’re in someone else’s cognition, but Sae’s cognition would be what manifests it||

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There's also a very real possibility || Akechi didn't know as much about the metaverse as the Thieves. All he did was drop in and kill targets, he may not have known all the ins and outs ||

gray tiger
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|| In regards to killing, sure. About cognitions and the various distortion rules? Maybe not? I don't remember that convo to the word||

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gray tiger
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||So essentially, once you enter and exit from a point, you can no longer change your point of entry? Then that throws a wrench in Akechi’s appearance, because Akechi would then be warped to where the party enters.||

ionic nymph
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I don't think KK's gotten there yet

candid cargo
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Yep that's a delete

ionic nymph
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KK exactly how far are you?

gray tiger
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no no it’s a deer

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I believe I stopped right after the initial conversation outside the diet

candid cargo
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I hope you didn't read that one whoops

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Sowwy

gray tiger
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I did but honestly I called that from several miles away anyway so it’s nbd!

candid cargo
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Oh ok good

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But yeah if you're only there, some things may still get a little more explanation later? So press on and see if that wraps anything else up

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Metaverse be funky

gray tiger
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Theoretically maybe? But a lot of my complaints are hard and fast rules

candid cargo
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Well I know part of exactly how palaces form and work is still to be explained

ionic nymph
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I have some thoughts on possible explanations for a few of the things you didn't like, but I can't figure out how to put them into words. My brain no workie right now lol

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So that's a portion of it

gray tiger
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Like ||how the fuck did we get 100+ police officers/grunts trained in basic workings of the metaverse, under NDA about the operation, into the metaverse with no witnesses, AND all of this done without Sae’s knowledge as she was spearheading the case||

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Without || Sae's knowledge? Wasn't she removed from the case right before this? ||

gray tiger
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That’s the thing, ||the effective radius has to be TINY to have pulled in Ann and no one else to Kamoshida’s||

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ionic nymph
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# gray tiger That’s the thing, ||the effective radius has to be TINY to have pulled in Ann an...

Ok this is a long shot || but it's possible that other students may not have questioned any of it at all. I think to some extent, bystanders need to be aware of someone entering the metaverse to be dragged in? Akechi may have at least hinted to the police what he was doing as he did it, pulling the cops in. Whereas the random Shujin students wouldn't notice because they had no clue what Joker/Ryuji were doing. And having the potential for a Persona may affect it as well for Ann. I genuinely don't know but this is kinda what I'm thinking. ||

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Like || no one ever ends up in the metaverse despite you entering from a crowded subway so there has to be some logic behind it ||

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This isn't exactly me but it's been a few years since I played P5 so trying to remember the exact rules of everything be like

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Like it all made sense at the time so I feel like there's an explanation but I can't remember every detail

gray tiger
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LMAOOOOO

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But yeah I was playing in call with two friends who had played the scene within the last week, and It Got A Bit Ugly lmao

candid cargo
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It's like trying to explain everything in AI:TSF. At the time, it was all clear but when I think back I need to refresh my mind on the exact timelines and sequences

gray tiger
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I just hope you keep playing the game and that you at least still like it after everything Clonesyuwu

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Because stopping now means no third semester, which is pure peak

ionic nymph
gray tiger
# candid cargo It's like trying to explain everything in AI:TSF. At the time, it was all clear ...

See that’s the thing - ||the twist feels like exactly the opposite of an AI twist and I think that’s a lot of frustration with it. With AI it’s a lot of carefully written throwaways that come to fruition when you make a second pass through, and a lot of open thoughts to spin on. With this it’s a lot of omitted scenes and hastily written rules that feel tailored to making the twist work rather than effective world-building, that feel designed to shut your train of thought down from wanting to go back.||

gray tiger
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idk i guess i just never really questioned it all that much

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Maybe I'm big dumb

gray tiger
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It’s probably due in part to the fact that the scene got hyped up really hard for me and then it just…didn’t deliver

ionic nymph
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That's fair, everything feels a lot worse if you're given high expectations for it and didn't like it

ionic nymph
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Also because I'm such a P5 shill too

gray tiger
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Nonono, not at all! Do not ever apologize for liking a game and enjoying the experience of playing it, and wanting to share that with others.

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Overall I think it’s a personal thing - in my experience with P4G and P5R, it’s really felt like the emphasis on a lot of points feels imbalanced, and some of the choices they make end up exacerbating that. But again, it’s my personal feeling, and coming from a perspective of not having completed p5r

heavy obsidian
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P5R bosses: "You'll never defeat me!"
Me, with fully Alarm Fusion boosted ||Kaguya & Izanagi-no-Okami||: "ok"

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toxic swallow
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MASSIVE SPOILER For Mementos ||and after||: ||THAT IGOR WAS A FAKE THE ENTITE TIME? SCUSE ME? WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?||

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This game is turning out to change the way I think about things

ionic nymph
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🙂

toxic swallow
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I think I beat P5 Vanilla and Know where the two intersect

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||MARUKI IS GRANTING WISHES OR SOMETHING THROUGH COGNITION? WHAT?!||

toxic swallow
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||This starts off VERY weirdly||

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||Especially with a party of Yoshizawa, and Goro||

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||And the Metanav is now Maruki Nav... Or something||

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toxic swallow
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See but I was discussing it with Will before; sometimes it's an energy, not literally steppy. For instance, could Haru kick my ass? Yes. Would she? No

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Besides, JoMarch good, need not be steppy types to be good (heck, Sumi is my favorite in P5R)

toxic swallow
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That I will not deny

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If I do a second run through of the game, which is highly doubtful in the near future, Sumi will be my Romance option probably

candid cargo
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I'm love her

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Just wanna give her a warm hug

gray tiger
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Just finished the exploration of (post november spoilers) ||Shido’s palace.

Honestly, I’m…sorta miffed that Joker’s not harsher on Akechi in the aftershocks of the fight. I would not be that positive or kind if someone made THREE SEPARATE ATTEMPTS ON MY LIFE IN TWO MONTHS, GOD DAMN. At that point just pack it up||

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But if he were harsher, how would we get || a dramatic death? scene and heroic sacrifice?? || /s

heavy obsidian
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KK's Joker ||"THAT'S IT!!! I'M OUT!!!!"||

gray tiger
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||Like, you can see the parallels but also Joker straight up could say “yeah I got fucked over by your father, too, it’s called therapy you ass.”||

candid cargo
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100% agree tho

heavy obsidian
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who goes to therapy in the Persona universe? 99.9% of all plot would up and disappear

gray tiger
heavy obsidian
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no spoilers

candid cargo
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That's all I'm saying

gray tiger
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Maruki ❤️

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I need to cosplay Maruki again and give out snacks this time

gray tiger
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tell everyone “you got the last one I had!”

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just to make em taste better :D

heavy obsidian
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I'm not going to say anything else on that.

gray tiger
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you know what you should say more about though? the hit game tokyo mirage sess-[shot]

gray tiger
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as a little side note it actually did come up last night (as it oft does in my play of this) the fact that the menus for enemy strength and weakness can be confusing

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cause until someone pointed it out, i did not realize that repels were just marked in different colors based on mag/phys

silk igloo
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||If I were in charge, I'd make Joker VS Akechi a 1V1 duel with it's own unique boss theme.||

ionic nymph
heavy obsidian
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You know what I'm agitated so here we go. Big ass spoilers for P5R ahead, like seriously.
||My comment that "no one gets therapy in Persona" is 100% true. Even before the reveal and third semester of school Maruki is not a good therapist, and that's the damn point. Pushing aside the incredibly fucked up Yoshizawa situation, even in his dialogue and technique before the third semester it's evident that Maruki's goal was never to heal anyone under his care. Being heard and acknowledged by someone who knows a therapist's language and being treated by a professional are two different things.||

candid cargo
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Sorry if that is a weird way to express it it's just a complicated emotion

heavy obsidian
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You can like the character and the arc, but considering how rampant the ||"lol we've seen therapy in Persona and look what happened!"|| comments are and how very apathetic of a take that is, I do not enjoy that.

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toxic swallow
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I believe :)

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I just got to that palace and listened to the song before going to bed

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Cant wait

silk igloo
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happy Aigis on all platforms today

onyx trail
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Chad narukami for all platforms

gray tiger
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every day’s great at your junes :)

onyx trail
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happy rerelease day go buy both games if u can there damn great

toxic swallow
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LOOK

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...

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I wanna play engage and other games

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I'll get to it

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Eventually

toxic swallow
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P5R Finished

kindred torrent
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Dancing games on switch when

gray tiger
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P5R be like “hey, we want you to use this feature that not only ups your social links on days you’re not going to rank up with someone, but ALSO levels up your baton pass rank.

We’re also going to grey this out on the map if you want to suggest it while talking to someone about hanging out, which would normally be the most logical way you would move toward it.”

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i wish all Darts a very Please Show Up On The Map

heavy obsidian
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i unironically love the stupid darts game

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heavy obsidian
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...ok yeah that would've worked

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derp

toxic swallow
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I never played Tycoon

silk igloo
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Tycoon is the real game in Persona 5 Royal, in my opinion.

candid cargo
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I think the only minigame that took a higher proportion of my first playthrough of a game was the best minigame ever created
BLITZBALL

silk igloo
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HELL YEAH, BLITZBALL LEAGUE FOR LIFE

toxic swallow
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For me, I did jobs

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Flower shop and Lala's

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And some 777

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If that tells you anything about me IRL

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Oop

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Probably would have palyed.kore games if I found them sooner

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But I played Star Cornelius or whatever

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toxic swallow
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Ok

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What even is Blitzball?

candid cargo
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Play FFX

toxic swallow
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Ah

candid cargo
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It's like water polo meets soccer/actual football
Except you're in a floating underwater sphere

toxic swallow
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The only mini game that's doen that for me had been Vantage Masters in Cold Steel IV

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It's like Hearthstone

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But you need to buy and collect the cards

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toxic swallow
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IT'S A FUN CARD GAME

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Vantage Masters

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And there no nerfs like Hearthstone

gray tiger
toxic swallow
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Kinda reminds me a bit of Alpha MTG

candid cargo
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As an ex Hearthstone player I want less card games like it

toxic swallow
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A

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Also ones that are actually balanced

gray tiger
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God I wish cipher caught on

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Those card designs were NICE

toxic swallow
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They ARE

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and I'm in the middle of getting MTG proxy art using fire emblem cipher art

candid cargo
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Besides now you can just play a slightly better card game in game in the form of Genius Invok-shot

kindred torrent
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Blitzball is pain

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Like horrible awful pain.

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I once did an April fools stream a lifetime ago where I was an mlg esports blitzball player. It was like 6 hours of me pretending to be incredibly enthused about blitzball.

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Disclaimer: I fucking bloody hate blitzball.

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Also, there was no darts game in base p5 so i have no idea what it's actually like but I am insanely down for it

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Best minigame in a game for me is either triple triad from xiv, the sonic chao garden if it counts, or literally every fishing minigame ever

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Triple Triad also incredibly based

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Dropped a ton into that when I played VIII

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I never played 8 to enjoy its tt but I loved it while playing xiv

rose marlin
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With Persona 4 Golden out, I have complied some spoiler free tips and tricks I wish I knew before playing. Anyone want them?

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For p3p, save often and also don't dally around in Tartarus because if you do, you're gambling with instant death spells. You do not want to redo 10+ floors of that boring dungeon.

Also if femc, befriend shinji as soon as you can. Don't ask questions. Just boost the shit out of that link

toxic swallow
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:)

gray tiger
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december spoilers:

||12/24
mona: it feels like i’m REALLY close to remembering something…

mona, two hours later: MARK ZUCKERBERG||

gray tiger
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cont’d ||I am also so sad that Haru suggests “celebrating like athletes do” and NO ONE POURED A GIANT THING OF GATORADE OVER JOKER||

rose marlin
heavy obsidian
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Did I finish my latest run of P5R and immediately go purchase P3P on the playstation store because my PSP is no longer functional and I crave playing a female protagonist?

I don't owe you an answer.

wise charm
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My sister is going back to university which means I can finally finish persona cheebGib

heavy obsidian
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I forgot that Akihiko only has lower eyelashes by the rules of the three art design genders, Akihiko is a hoe

mighty pulsar
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It is known

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Akihiko is a slut for protein

silk igloo
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Omg

gray tiger
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heavy obsidian
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My original goal before I leave Tartarus is 1 mil yen, but considering it's only April that might.... be overkill? Maybe???

heavy obsidian
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I mean I'm already at 100k why not more?

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Why on earth would you need 1 million in April? Can you even grind that much with fatigue??

heavy obsidian
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I entered Tartarus with Great mood, no deaths, and literally just gotta run up and teleport down with the party separated and reap the chest money. We're also lvl 12 so everything runs from us so we don't have to worry about random battles.

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And I just want money so I can splurge early

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I mean it's p3 so like
I get it

heavy obsidian
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Yeah @@;

candid cargo
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Even if it's portable

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All that gives you is control over the party, which is huge, but it's still mean

heavy obsidian
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Also even on early floors in April you get a lot of reaper trap floors (the no enemy all treasure floors). So I just split the party with everyone gathering chests while I stand on the stairs or telepory in case the Reaper shows up

heavy obsidian
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I clean forgot that early Hierophant in P3P is literally "hey nice kid, welcome to our bookstore! ||btw our son died and we are still traumatized by it||" RAAAANK UP!!

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heavy obsidian
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Obvious aside at least P5R's links feel..... somewhat natural and normal. P3P meanwhile is like
Hey, I just met you 🎶
And this is crazy~ 🎶
But I'd like to tell you my darkest secrets and my doubts and my interpretations of my worth as a person who walks on this earth and I'm deeply unstable emotionally and I'm hanging on by a thread of dignity and any confidence you perceived that I had before I told you all this is a lie that I constructed to protect myself and I'm desperately clawing at the hope that you, a stranger, can fix me-
So call me maybe 🎶

kindred torrent
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Koromaru best social link

wise charm
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Ugh that shadow minamoto fight is killing meeeeeee

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almost like the okumura fight but ten times worse

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sharp kestrel
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Laura Post is getting lots of mileage out of the bellona voice when voicing people who definitely do not use the bellona voice a lot

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Major P5R end of game spoilers ||So I just did 2/2 last night. While I still have the final fight left to go, I’m making my judgement now, which is: while I feel third semester is a very interesting story, I just…don’t feel like it fits in with the game. Like it’s so nuanced and subtle with its tone compared to how heavy handed the main game is, that it doesn’t feel like it’s actually a part of the game, and that does a disservice to it in a major way - to the point that I kept going through it with a feeling of wanting more, more emotional impact, more outwardly emotional performance, and just kept feeling like I wasn’t getting that. To the point that I would say the unemotional choices they make for the most part really took Sumi’s second awakening from something that was set up to be so incredibly emotional, so charged, and had potential to dethrone Makoto’s as the best in my book to just…incredibly blah. Where’s her desperation? They literally threw her into the center of a multiman combat and forced the party out of it, knowing full well she has no protection - would she not be praying to some, any god with every fiber of her being for that ability to come back? Knowing that if it doesn’t, she’s not only resigned to the useless person she’s so fearful of, but also quite literally dead in the water? I was expecting anguish and pain and hurt the way they set up that whole scene, and it just…felt like nothing.

Second gripe is - now seeing third semester, I really dislike Maruki, and I could genuinely feel them trying to make you sympathize with a character like that, but every bit of backstory had the opposite effect on me. Like they can make these motives as complex and as longstanding as they want, he’s still just a selfish simp with attachment issues.||

mighty pulsar
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Whoa harsh

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||Someone didn't get enough snacks from Dr Snacks I think||

gray tiger
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Genuinely though! ||His entire place in the game is defined by finding a new object of fixation and going about “fixing” them with no actual input from said party - Rumi, Yoshizawa, and Joker||

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||He hides under the guise of doing things for others but in reality everything is to benefit his position in someone else’s life.||

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||But that is the point! He is misguided, driven by his own grief and suffering. He genuinely thinks he's doing the right thing for the world, but he's only doing it for himself without even fully realising it.||

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||He's just some guy who suddenly got the power to change people's perceptions and cognitions. Of course that's going to affect him aversely||

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      • morally complex antagonists * * *
mighty pulsar
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||And I heavily disagree with his methods, but he isn't perfect and that's exactly why he's compelling. He has major trauma and internalised problems that blind him||

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i love them

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||Also he's hot||

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mighty pulsar
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Spoiler tags allegraLURK

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Also ||I don't agree with your take on Sumi's true awakening. She's clearly despairing, and heavily affected by the loss of her powers. She had to accept her situation, and she had the hardest time out of any of the PT doing that. Her mask removal is by far the most gruesome and drawn out to symbolise this||

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also yeah I definitely experienced the || third semester differently. The more nuanced/subtle tone was more enjoyable for me because one of my gripes with the main game's story is that it tries to make the thieves morally dubious but then pits them against obviously evil people. I kind of prefer the grey vs. slightly darker shade of grey aspect of Maruki ||

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It's the same for me yeah, ||I already knew about the "twist" so that might have helped. Ultimately I enjoyed having someone who isn't cartoonishly evil||

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I'm just a sucker for || misguided antagonists who think they're doing the right thing or even the same thing as the hero, just the wrong way ||

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Gimme those Well Intentioned Extremists that Tales games love 🙏

toxic swallow
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The ||Third Semester|| grew on me the more I played it. I first thought ||it was out of place||, but now I genuinely like it

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# candid cargo and unlike the rest of the P5 antagonists who outside of a few are kinda...laugh...

See, that’s exactly why it was such a struggle for me. ||I enjoy it as a standalone arc well enough, but the fact that it’s SUCH a tectonic shift and SO clearly delineated from the main story had me waiting for the other shoe to drop in a lot of situations - if they had either made this like, a separate piece of media in some sense, an audio drama, or a packaged-in side story with a second title card; or if things had been reworked to make the story sort of lead into a more subtle direction gradually (lmao my ikuhara-created media bias isn’t showing or anything) I feel like I could have enjoyed it more.||

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||You can definitely tell it's a later addition to the story yeah||

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||I tried to view it as a sort of epilogue or side story, that might have helped with the huge shift in storytelling and style||

gray tiger
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||Yeah, it also frustrates me because of how well P4G ropes in its golden content and P5R just. Doesn’t lmao||

mighty pulsar
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||I legitimately couldn't tell you what was P4G content and what isn't, aside from Marie being present. With P5R it's way more obvious yeah||

gray tiger
# mighty pulsar Also ||I don't agree with your take on Sumi's true awakening. She's clearly desp...

||See, but I think they needed to push it farther than they did in the cutscene, considering just how much they lead up to it. She’s purposefully put herself into a high risk situation to try and prompt herself to awaken to her potential, and in doing so is not only ripping away her still-unresolved grief, her sorrow, her current understanding of the world, her understanding of herself, and the comforts she had created herself in her altered cognition (and likely in her mind, the last things tying her sister to this earth,) knowing full well that if she’s wrong, she will die by these enemies’ hand, and the fact that it’s this short monologue while everyone’s waiting at the sidelines, and then they go to the bloody mask for like four seconds, to honestly pretty casually asking for Cendrillon to help, and imo it does not do that emotion justice, nor does it meaningfully resolve the tension it creates. If any of you have seen the Crisis Make Up scene from Sailor Moon, that kind of rawness is what I was expecting out of the scene.||

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||also this is no fault of the dub, but rather, a fault of the scene - JP takes it in the same direction. But overall, the scene needs to let itself marinate and revel in the dramatic beats for Sumi, and push farther emotionally||

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heavy obsidian
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Me 🤝 KK
||being unimpressed by Maruki's arc||

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to put it mildly

silk igloo
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Need I remind you that Persona 2 has the best story in the series, and Atlus is trying to bury it for no reason.

grand plank
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P2 duology remaster available on switch, steam, and PS4

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Make it happen atlus

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The duology has never been released together in the US, only the second half on the PS1 and the first half on the PSP

heavy obsidian
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When ya start getting in the 4 digits exp from the 5 Wands card 🥵🔥💦

heavy obsidian
heavy obsidian
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P3P really does like to push Akihiko as the romance option for FeMC; most of his early social link is dealing with other girls crushing on him, him being embarrassed about holding your hand, taking you out to sweets, etc.

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Sorry, Atlus, not this run. My boy Shinji exists and therefore my heart is set

silk igloo
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I still like Akihiko. (probably because Liam O'Brien)

heavy obsidian
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It really is a shame FeMC's romance pool is teeny tiny

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Meanwhile MC is literally forced to woo all of the S-Link women

silk igloo
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I think the director wanted us to woo all the women because he says he's never really dated a woman in his life.
This is the same man who refused gay romance options in Persona 3-5.

heavy obsidian
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Oh no I figured

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Clear as dang diddly day

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No one creates a game where making meaningful connections is a core mechanic but force all of the women characters to become romantically/sexually available to the player unless they're deeply lonely/misogynistic/gross/incel/and so on and so forth

silk igloo
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Again, it raises a lot of unfortunate implications.

wise charm
scarlet field
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I have one otp and its the dumb blondes

silk igloo
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my otps are Joker X Ann, Ann X Shiho, Ann X Ryuji, Ryuji X Joker, Ryuji X Shiho, Joker X Makoto, Makoto X Ann, Makoto X Haru, Joker X Haru, Yusuke X Futaba, Joker X Akechi and Morgana X Sushi.

gray tiger
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the only relationships i’m invested in

scarlet field
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I feel like to qualify as an OTP it has to be the only pairing you categorize there for a character

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otherwise its just Like

gray tiger
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ATP

scarlet field
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your top pick if you will

gray tiger
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a true pairing

wise charm
scarlet field
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oh KK I like the one sided relationships you marked lol

gray tiger
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I just think one sided relationships are fun!

scarlet field
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I agree

silk igloo
gray tiger
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This hark a vagrant comic is basically my akeshu except akechi won’t admit it

wise charm
candid cargo
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vanilla lookin chart here

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ShuMako and ShuSumi are basically interchangeable

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Also included in that RyuAnn is Shiho

toxic swallow
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...

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No one's gonna Ship Goro and Ren when the game gives you the option "Honey, I'm Home" and Goro just responds CASUALLY?!

scarlet field
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I ship Akechi with my fist in his face

silk igloo
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silk igloo
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I seriously don't get the idea behind a Futaba romance option. I'd much rather have Joker and Makoto drive her to McDonalds.

wise charm
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I don't understand people who ship Shukechi

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Like he literally tired to KILL HIM

gray tiger
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will respond more in depth, but tldr, that’s the fun part

candid cargo
heavy obsidian
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Yay s-link Shinji time!

  • the smiling sprite appears on screen
    YUP yup that's the good stuff
candid cargo
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Good boi Shinji hours

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I will always love that scene with him and Koromaru where he has to pretend to fall asleep with the cooking show on

heavy obsidian
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it is once again time to kith a Shinji

heavy obsidian
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||it's so short lived but WORTH IT waaaaahahahahhaaaaa||

heavy obsidian
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Gosh I forgot how Akihiko's s-link is quite uncomfortable after romancing Shinji. ||"Whats this feeling in my chest?" 1-idk did ya eat something, 2-iunno, 3-YOURE IN LOOOOVE||

heavy obsidian
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Odoxjsud Ken's S-Link after 10/4 is just like bruh
||Literal child: "do you have a boyfriend?" WELL I DONT ANYMORE, KEN. I WONDER WHAT COULDVE HAPPENED. HM. A MYSTERY THAT||

wise charm
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what in the fuck is this ||Maruki fight||

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|| I literally can't see where the tentacles are ||

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AND 8000 HP TOO???

rose marlin
# gray tiger Major P5R end of game spoilers ||So I just did 2/2 last night. While I still hav...

I know this is like a week old but.

||Royal's story/3rd semester feels jarring because they had to retrofit it into an already complete story. It was going to feel jarring from the start without drastically changing Vanilla's ending.

The message that Persona 5 is trying to tell is that changing the world doesn't require super powers or defeating gods. Just to change perspective, even if it's just your own.

The 3rd Semester however, was trying to convey the message of being able to move on from loss, from those that put you down, and focusing on making the world a better place. It's a great message, but it feels out of place because this was added in on top of the original game.||

heavy obsidian
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I have reached lvl 69 on hard mode, it's an xmas miracle

candid cargo
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I peaked this weekend

silk igloo
kindred torrent
candid cargo
toxic swallow
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:)

heavy obsidian
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Logical Brain: you don't have to stay in Tartarus to get all 18 Messiah Heart Items TODAY; you have so much money from armor and weapons you can sell them the next day, complete the compendium, and then have enough left over to do Messiah another day!

Feral Brain: I Am Not Leaving Tartarus Until I Have All 18 TODAY, AND TODAY ALONE!!!

guess which one I'm listening to :']

kindred torrent
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The third one, thinking about one of those cymbal monkey toys.

heavy obsidian
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OMNIPOTENT ORB IS MINE 😭💕

silk igloo
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happy "joker pays the consequences for not being persona 5 loyal" day.

heavy obsidian
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Oh NO

silk igloo
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oh yes

mighty pulsar
onyx trail
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So a irl friend sent me this lmao

heavy obsidian
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I have all 18 Messiah Heart Items. All 9 armors, 8 shoes, and the omnipotent orb 🙌

wise charm
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not adachi

mighty pulsar
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funny based cabbage man

heavy obsidian
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put that gif back where you found it

wise charm
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no

heavy obsidian
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AHHHHH I FEEL WEIRD @'S YOU NOW THAT YOURE MOD STATUS, BUT KK I HAVE CONVINCED TWO PEOPLE TO PLAY TOKYO MIRAGE SESSIONS TONIGHT, I HOPE I MADE YOU PROUD ✨️

gray tiger
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  1. gently puts a hand on both sides of your face. Listen alia. If you have news about tokyo mirage sessions, my husband baizhu, or any of my bajillion fire emblem husbands, it is your privilege, nay your duty, to ping me mercilessly. And I mean mercilessly.

  2. HELL YEAH HELL YEAHHHHHHHHHH LESGO

onyx trail
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The song is still good and i will forever think of naoto everytime it plays

toxic swallow
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This is Persona, right?

toxic swallow
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wise charm
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FeelsGoodMan

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I bawled my eyes out

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also ignore the playtime I'm well over 150 hours

toxic swallow
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Did you just finish P5R?

wise charm
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yesssssss

toxic swallow
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Oh

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Yeah, it's a tear jerker

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Punch Out

onyx trail
wise charm
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WHAT IN THE

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That thing costs more than my whole xbox lmaooooooooo

silk igloo
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all that for the makoto bike statue

wise charm
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now for part two lmao

toxic swallow
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Persona 5: The Roadtrip

mighty pulsar
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Persona 5 Strikers is a very fun game

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wise charm
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LMAO yeap

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I'm about three hours in right now

wise charm
silk igloo
onyx trail
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Happy march 5th if you know you know

candid cargo
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silk igloo
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and on Yuri Lowenthal's birthday...

onyx trail
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True

rotund oar
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“I didn’t get Ann, or Makoto, or Futaba. What I got….was paid.” -Me discussing Persona 5’s lack of gay with @silk igloo

silk igloo
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We still need a gay route in the next game. I wanted to date Yusuke, but Atlus said "nooo".
Then again, I am also the guy who wanted a Shiho SL because she deserves hugs (and also she deserves to kiss Ann, they are still lesbians with each other.)

torn prism
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Yeah, the lack of gay options still annoys me to this very day.

silk igloo
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For frick's sake, Persona 2 had a gay option, and Atlus are still trying to bury it to this day.

mighty pulsar
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What is Persona...2?

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Didn't it start with 3

heavy obsidian
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The gay disappeared from the Persona series when ||Philemon|| did.
Bring him and his gay energy back, cowards

candid cargo
silk igloo
candid cargo
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also besides the gays needing to come back, I think it'd be fun if P6 let you have an option to try and matchmake your party together
I wanted to have Ryuji and Ann hold hands darn it

silk igloo
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I WANTED TO LET ANN AND SHIHO KISS, BUT ATLUS JUST SAID "Let's use our 'strong' female characters, one for fanservice (I still like Ann despite Atlus treating her wrong), and one just as a plot device before we depose of her from the narrative!"

candid cargo
# candid cargo Yeah just like Jojo's Bizarre Adve-*shot*

Look I'm just saying
3rd entry: heavy tarot focus with major enemies directly referencing the cards, party members die, also there is a dog with supernatural powers like the protagonists for some reason
4th entry: a bunch of teenagers solve the mystery of a supernatural serial killer in a rural town, much lighter in tone than the prior part, also brighter color palette
5th entry: fabulous main character and their group of misfit friends use supernatural powers to help better society outside the law
also people frequently joke that the series starts at the 3rd entry

silk igloo
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Which technically means we get in Persona 6: female protagonist voiced by Kira Buckland must escape prison to stop gay priest from obtaining means to reset universe because he believes in gravity.

silk igloo
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Alright, what music artists do you headcanon the Phantom Thieves listen to?
For me, I think Joker listens to David Bowie, Ryuji listens to Rage Against The Machine, Ann listens to Utada Hikaru, Makoto listens to Foo Fighters, and so on.

candid cargo
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Haru listens to like, nothing softer than thrash metal

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Yusuke has classical on deck

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Futaba is anime OSTs, obvi

silk igloo
candid cargo
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See I was gonna go Hip to be Scared by Ice Nine Kills because it's that but as a metal song

silk igloo
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True.

candid cargo
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Akechi is top 40 trash in public, emo/nu metal in reality cause he's an edgy little shit (affectionate)

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Also Haru 200% listens to Babymetal

candid cargo
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I say that like I don't own every Paramore CD and listen to FOB/Panic!/LP on the regular

silk igloo
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I still think Ann and Makoto listen to Paramore together on ocassion.

candid cargo
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Oh probs
I could see Ann being a pop punk fan

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Sumi.........idk

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Also, Ann probably listens to Rise's music too

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Makoto definitely feels like a hair metal fan too? Like I'm just imagining Kickstart My Heart while she's awakening to Johanna

silk igloo
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I think Makoto and Sae share an interest in Metallica, yeah.

candid cargo
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Makoto walks into a student council meeting like a wrestler with Enter Sandman playing Allegralaugh

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Also Joker is probably just super diverse with music taste
One of those "playlists will give you massive whiplash" people

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heavy obsidian
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AT LAST...... I HAVE CRAFTED ORPHEUS TELOS WITH THUNDER REIGN, NIFLHEIM, RAGNAROK, AND PANTA RHEI

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IT TOOK HOURRRRSSSS 😭😭😭

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HEEE!!! I got Mind Charge, Unshaken Will, Enduring Soul, and Victory Cry cards ||MC & VC are from completing Vision Quest, then I went to the shrine to duplicate them||. If you're curious about stats, I used my maxed out Tam Lin as a base fusion for some of the requirement ingredients, so any resulting persona also had insane inherited stats. And now he is C O M P L E T E (and I can finally get the Divine Pillar from Alilat and take on ||Theo||)

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I also have a handful of Elec Amp and Elec Boost cards left over. If I want to abuse the Thunder Reign strat instead of my intended plan, I can overwrite Ragnarok & Panta Rhei for the fight, then toss out that OT when the battle is won.

heavy obsidian
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I had to swap out Enduring Soul & Victory Cry for Sharp Student & High Counter, but Theo got got uwu

heavy obsidian
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Wkfnka I forgot how Gerard Way the regular MC looks in the post-battle screen 😂

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FeMC listens to FOB, MC listens to MCR-- they are not the same

candid cargo
heavy obsidian
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I spent the last 10 hours playing P3P on my NG+, this time on the male route for the trophy, but I haven't fought the first boss yet. Why? I wanted to see if I could get my Orpheus to have some key skills before the compendium opened up. Namely: Ziodyne (from Thor), Bufudyne (from Parvati), Agidyne (from Surt), Garudyne (from Loki), Cool Breeze (from Ose), Sharp Student (from Zouchouten), Recarm (from Nigi Mitama), and Salvation (from Vishnu).

Since none of the listed personas are available to me yet via the compendium, I had to fuse them. All of them. With only the personas available to me on this New Game+ file (the first 10 floors of Tartarus & Monad).

Was it a waste of a Sunday? Most likely. But I did do it, so I'm going to stick with my new Orpheus this run :3c

onyx trail
onyx trail
toxic swallow
wise charm
scarlet field
onyx trail
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Ngl i thought this was fanmade cause the designs look fanmade

wise charm
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China only apperantly

onyx trail
silk igloo
candid cargo
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"we told persona 6 to go to sleep. forever."

onyx trail
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A world where persona 5 exists forever

silk igloo
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It's like Skyrim and Resident Evil 4, unless we stop buying Persona 5, Atlus will keep milking it.

onyx trail
candid cargo
onyx trail
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You fool there i have 70 persona 5 games -Atlus probably

candid cargo
onyx trail
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toxic swallow
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Fandom when Velvet Room Atendent: JoMarch

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Also a lot of the fandom when Female Main Character: "NOOO WHY U DO DID FEM MC?! GATHCA GAME?! I'M NOT PLAYING PERSONA 5 FEMALE"

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But dating your teacher and/ or an alcoholoc adult and/ or two toddlers is okay

silk igloo
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And sexualizing Ann after her whole shtick with Kamoshida, look I get that her idea is using her sexuality to empower herself, but the way she is just treated as fanservice after the mostly serious first palace really says something about Atlus.

onyx trail
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She looks like a discount marget

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The new velvet attendant

candid cargo
toxic swallow
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....are you being sarcastic?

candid cargo
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No

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ALL romancable characters in P5 are good

toxic swallow
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True

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BUT

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BECUASE you play as Joker, it's not okay for some things

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Ohya, Good Character

candid cargo
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Agreed

toxic swallow
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should they be dated by a 17 year old? No

candid cargo
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Just making sure we aren't insulting cool Devil arcanas who are more than what they first appear, have a nice day

toxic swallow
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Like, I like the Toddlers and Lavenza. Am I going to romance them, ESPECIALLY playing as Joker? Hell no

candid cargo
toxic swallow
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An example from Trails - Is Musse a really good character? Yes. Am I okay with shipping her with her teacher Rean, who she tries to make too many moves on? No. Power Dynamics

candid cargo
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Yeah...people in Persona love to dunk on Kenji from P3 for trying to get with his teacher but then also go "lol lemme smash" to Kawakami and ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh
no

wise charm
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pain in two pictures

candid cargo
wise charm
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I mean

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at least you would have better reception lmao

candid cargo
silk igloo
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when are we getting Persona 5 L: The Laser Maze only at Universal Studios Hollywood?

onyx trail
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Cant wait for persona 5 titled towers

silk igloo
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Or Persona 5 Madoka Magica.

onyx trail
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Featuring aniplex depression madness

silk igloo
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please, for the love of god announce Persona 6 already, I'm burnt out by all these spinoffs of Persona 5, we've had very few non-Persona games from Atlus ever since P5 came out, and a lot of the non Persona games were just rereleases of older games, only original games we've seen come out really were 13 Sentinels (which is technically VanillaWare), SMT V and Soul Hackers 2.

onyx trail
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We'll get there someday knowing they milked p4 for a while and then they finally gave up and said haha lets announce 5 on a concert and then delay it to release in 2017 in the west

heavy obsidian
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"HEY! We have a new Persona title announcement-"
"... is it Persona 5 again?"
"What do you mean?"
"Is it just another variation of Persona 5 or do you actually have a new Persona title to announce"
"Nope, I have a new Persona game to announce"
"And it is not another Persona 5 game?"
"Yes, I have a new Persona game title, it is not a Persona 5 remix or rerelease"
"Perfect! Ok, let's see the game!"
"Here you go!"

scarlet field
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if ryuji isnt in it who cares

mighty pulsar
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God you are so right Kelsey

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Give me my dumb blonde himbo boy

toxic swallow
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IF Ryuji isn't in the game, then it's not 'For Real'

onyx trail
wise charm
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I hate this

mighty pulsar
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Why are you torturing chatgpt like this

wise charm
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no idea

toxic swallow
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I know a Shuake shipper and fanfic writer and they're a really cool person

silk igloo
#

To be honest, that new Persona 5 mobile game looks like a bootleg Persona 5.

onyx trail
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Honestly it looks fanmade yet its official

wise charm
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AYO

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It's the 20th of March

silk igloo
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March 5th still hits harder for me.

candid cargo
#

March 🤝 October 🤝 November
Being depressing in persona games

silk igloo
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Wait until the next Persona game is nothing but pain and depression. Oh wait... we already have them! Two (well, one of them is just one game split into 2 parts) in fact!

sand storm
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All I want is a re-release of both Persona 2 games as a duology on the same system? Is that so hard?

heavy obsidian
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they'd probably remove the gay stuff if they did rerelease it, honestly

silk igloo
heavy obsidian
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Ohp time to fight the BBEG of P3 (again) and have lots of feelings (again)

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Doesn't hit the same as F!MC for me, but it still hits regardless

silk igloo
#

Here are mine:
-I much prefer the darker stories of Persona 2 and 3
-I think there should be better LGBTQ+ representation in the Persona series
-I don't care if people say Yoshizawa and Marie feel forced, while they may have their flaws, they are still good characters in their own ways
-The fanservice has got to go, especially the hot springs scenes
-Persona 4 is easily the weakest in the series
-I much prefer the Press Turn System in the SMT games compared to the "One More" system in Persona
-Atlus should stop milking the series so hard, they should let their other games shine every once in a while
-Strikers is a great sequel to P5 compared to P4 Arena as to Persona 4
-People should stop worshiping Adachi of all characters
-I feel like the updated rerelease model that was with Persona 3, 4 and 5 will ultimately become discredited over time
-Velvet Attendants peaked with Elizabeth

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# silk igloo https://twitter.com/JohneAwesome/status/1637877583667765249?s=20

-Rise and Narukami are actually very good together and I'm tired of the P4 fans saying that her only character trait is her crush on him
-No, Makoto is not a bad or "boring" character, just because her problems aren't as dramatic as everyone else's, it doesn't mean she's bad
-Second, her confidant focusing on Eiko is great, actually. A significant part of her backstory, as well as the meaning of the reversed priestess card, relate to either not trusting your instincts and/or not communicating well. Makoto figuring out how to get through to her is actually a perfect representation of the reversed card
-yes agree, cool it with the overt fanservice. i didn't mind the P5 beach scene personally but everytime I see an Operation Babe/Maid hunt scene, I want to commit Evoker.
-in terms of how the users interact, I hate SEES, with a few exceptions. I like the individual characters but god I'm glad that 4/5 made the characters actually friends for more of the game
-Ohya is good, y'all are just mean
-while I hated the airlock puzzle, please make more dungeons like it. Puzzles good.
-Cool it with the fake out endings, please
-There needs to be waaaaay more options to turn down romantic confidants. Please, just give me a "I'm sorry, but I'm already dating X" dialogue option
these probably aren't hot but hey

scarlet field
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Was gonna say some of those are pretty reasonable lol

candid cargo
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I'm bad at hot takes

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I don't think I have any actual persona opinions that would be an issue outside of the Twitter part of fandom

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No wait actually I found another:
-While yes, Naoto and Kanji are LGBTQ-coded, they aren't canonically and that's not necessarily a bad thing

heavy obsidian
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Dojima meet me in the pit, I got several bones to pick with you-- all of them about you being an absentee father

ionic nymph
#

I'll start by saying my only Persona experience is watching playthroughs of P5R on twitch, so you can take what I say with a grain of salt. Also there are a few late game spoilers
||-Aketchi is a terrible person and doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy or forgiveness and the Phantom Thieves let him off way to easily.||
||-I didn't like the final (pre-royal) palace/boss. After all the previous palaces having some personal connection, as well as being actual people, fighting god just felt like a cop-out because they needed to end the game with the thieves no longer having personas and couldn't think of a good way so they just said "fuck it, this is a jrpg, let's fight god"||
-Yusuke feels extremely aro/ace coded to me. (I also headcanon Futaba as aroace but I'm pretty sure that's mostly me projecting because she's my favorite character as opposed to having anything in game to support it)

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That's all I have off the top of my head but if I think of any more I'll share them

silk igloo
heavy obsidian
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my girl deserves the world and more dokikermit

silk igloo
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I love how Yukari and Mitsuru are right next to each other, they really are in lesbians with each other.

candid cargo
onyx trail
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LET LYN COOK

heavy obsidian
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UM. I think I just hit the fusion accident lottery.

My party is barely lvl 20-something, we just started Kanji's dungeon. I got Gdon from a previous fusion accident and I wanted to make Phoenix to get a Sun persona and.... I got Adahabaki instead

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Lmao I Ain't Using Anyone Else for a while, thanks Igor!!!!!

candid cargo
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Not a lot of skills that attack but who cares with those stats
Vicious Strike go brr

wise charm
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mooooooooooooood

mighty pulsar
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Zenkichi my beloved

heavy obsidian
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Ah...... I forgot that in P4G the book ||Nanako reads during Akechu's social link is the same on the Sun Arcana from P3 writes 😭||

heavy obsidian
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IGOR.
SIR.
THAT IS NOT KAIWAN AT ALL.

wise charm
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Happy brif to this person

candid cargo
toxic swallow
candid cargo
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Just came here to drop this one 😅

silk igloo
candid cargo
silk igloo
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it's mercer, he's always chaotic

candid cargo
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this is true
chaotic wholesome

silk igloo
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can't wait to see who he plays in P6 (when it comes out in 2502)

candid cargo
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See I don't want him to be in it
I don't want to have to worry about getting his autograph on something ever again

silk igloo
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Eh, when I get my RPG game written, I'll be sure to cast Matthew Mercer and most of the CR gang in roles.

mighty pulsar
#

That's going to be expensive

#

At minimum around a 1000 per person, and that's assuming they can do everything in one session.

silk igloo
#

yeah...

mighty pulsar
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If it's vocally demanding then you're already looking at multiple sessions

silk igloo
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Don't worry, I'll try not to have an Asura's Wrath type of vocal demand if I was casting VA's for my game.

toxic swallow
#

Can't wait to see Ray Chase as the Subway announcer in Persona 6

silk igloo
#

Ray Chase voices everyone in Persona 6.

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(with Troy Baker and Nolan North getting cameoes in the post credits scene)

heavy obsidian
#

Everyone in Persona 6 is voiced by Chris Pratt

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for some of the most underwhelming "persona" summoning lines you've ever heard

candid cargo
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We need the Subway Announcer cinematic universe

wise charm
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Cherami Leigh my beloved

toxic swallow
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She is great, because she also plays other cool characters

candid cargo
wise charm
#

saaame

wise charm
#

SOPHIA???

candid cargo
wise charm
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funnily enough

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The protagonist has no struggles at all

toxic swallow
#

WHERE'S K.K.?!

onyx trail
toxic swallow
#

Honestly, I'm okay with this. If they're using their own art and using AI to help them come up with more ideas which they'll fully create on their own, that's using a tool in the right way

#

They're not stealing from others and claiming it as their own, so I believe that's fine. It's also not going to be the final product either

candid cargo
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or
hear me out
they just keep using Soejima

#

Y'know, a super talented artist

heavy obsidian
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concept art's gonna churn out more personas like Lilith

#

humanoid hands, not all fingers present

wise charm
candid cargo
#

though honestly, if Igor/Atlus wanted us to ensure we knew P5 was a work of fiction, they could've just said "our game features a politician who is honest and genuinely cares about the youth of his country" and that would've done it

scarlet field
#

That guy was my top priority every playthrough

toxic swallow
candid cargo
#

Tae Takemi
Ma'am
One chance

mighty pulsar
onyx trail
toxic swallow
agile hedge
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I wish I was good at P4Arena, but alas. I tried playing Aigis, Shabrys, and Yukari.

silk igloo
candid cargo
toxic swallow
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I know ;)

candid cargo
#

i also don't have a lawyer

agile hedge
#

I myself can't afford both a lawyer and all the game/anime stuff I want.

onyx trail
silk igloo
onyx trail
silk igloo
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Takemi and Sae are just 2 examples of girlboss energy personafied.

silk igloo
candid cargo
#

rise is good
discuss

gray tiger
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correct

silk igloo
#

best Yu Narukami simp

candid cargo
# gray tiger correct

she was my first persona romance and i love her character
just wants to drop all the masks and be loved for who she really is darn it

silk igloo
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Also, I like how she's on the spectrum of "Laura Bailey characters who are complete opposite from other Laura Bailey characters".

onyx trail
agile hedge
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Pyrrha vs Pyrrha Omega.

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Vex'ahlia in general.

#

As for my favorite of Persona 4's girls.... "fsteak".

silk igloo
#

since you mentioned fsteak...
"NOW ALL TOGETHER!
🎶 Your futile existince has no meaning!🎶
Ok, lets get serious. Imma kill everybody in this room."

agile hedge
#

Shadow Teddie's Existential Kids Corner!

candid cargo
silk igloo
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onyx trail
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As usual ill believe it when i see it

frosty forge
#

Remember everyone, we don't want to be spreading potential leaks of any games. Please don't post them, thank you

wise charm
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me playing on Game Pass FingerGuns

#

MONEY SAVED

silk igloo
onyx trail
toxic swallow
#

I WANT THOSE GAMES

#

Cries in not ready/ willing to spend money yet

#

ALSO says the girl going to MTG MOM and probably watching Suzume this weekend

onyx trail
#

I want 5 but the problem is shit laptop specs

wise charm
#

ice cube a persona fan confirmed ???

toxic swallow
#

MEAT MEAT MEAT

toxic swallow
toxic swallow
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I mean you're not wrong
I was just about to post it then I saw you already had seven minutes ago 😅

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agile hedge
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Punchy punch.

silk igloo
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They just hate her because she isn't Kawakami wearing a maid outfit.

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Also, I gotta say, the fact that Atlus added the option to date Kawakami (your teacher in game, mind you, who is a legal adult), while the first major arc in the game involves a teacher who uses his power to assault female students really says a lot of things about the games writer.

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(I have many more controversial opinions on Persona, but I'll save them for later)

mighty pulsar
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Dating Kawakami is something you do for yourself obviously

agile hedge
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It's a valid criticism. Takemi is my favorite of the love interests, but Takemi x Joker is... not right.

silk igloo
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Again, I feel like romances like Ann X Joker, Makoto X Joker, Hifumi X Joker and Haru X Joker are more suited to my tastes compared to other romance options.

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I have joker date Sumi for him
I have him date Takemi for me
Two things can be true

mighty pulsar
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Joker x ||Human Morgana||

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Also yeah modern persona in general needs to calm down with the Van Halen because even P3 has Kenji trying to get with his teacher, plus the reveal of the || hermit || social link, though that's played more for comedy

toxic swallow
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I like Kawakami because she is probably how I'll look on HRT... hopefully

scarlet field
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People can say they pick the adult love interests because is "for me" but the story is still written in the dynamic of a high school student romancing an adult

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I hope in future games they either age the team up or stop setting up older love interests

heavy obsidian
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Aging the team up would be fun IMO

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Instead of the MC having to deal with school it's the MC having to go to work 😂

scarlet field
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Or at least college

heavy obsidian
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That would be fun too! You'd also have more freedom to pick different routes, I'd imagine

scarlet field
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Depends on how much they allow you to customize your character I imagine

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My problem with JRPGs is that most of them lock you into a character and gender, but don't give them any personality so you can "see yourself" in them

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If you don't let me customize the character I won't see myself in them, so at least make them a real person

heavy obsidian
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That would be a really nice change.

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The more I think about the college route the more I like it. Like you can still do the "shared dorm" thing for space like in previous titles, maybe hang out with different social links more because you share a major or an elective or something. That would help "customize" the character a little while still sticking to the typical Persona structure

mighty pulsar
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Just please give us a university student protagonist

heavy obsidian
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I see no downside to this, honestly

mighty pulsar
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And they did recently confirm once again that ||you can totally awaken to a persona when you're an adult|| so there should be no issue

heavy obsidian
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There are so many good takes with a university student vs a highschool student. Like you don't have to be shipped somewhere because [reason], you're just going to uni with a full ride or something (or you have student loans, rip). Too many things fit for me to go on without rambling.

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Antagonists include Kaneshiro but actually a Banking CEO.

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US version will add missions to steal the hearts of Health Insurance execs.

wise charm
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God I love game pass

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Ok so I didn't know that in P5R, if you have the Shadow Sae displayed, Sojiro has a dialogue where he says "and who might this be?" and Futaba immediately shuts him up
First Tae flirting with her and now Sojiro making moves, damn gurl

silk igloo
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I mean... it's Shadow Sae...

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valid

silk igloo
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They didn't have to make Sae sexier than she already is, but they did.

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Futaba just be like

silk igloo
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Futaba's a chaotic bisexual gremlin.

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agile hedge
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Don't mess with her; she can literally nuke anything.

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She always looked like she has vampiric eyes.

toxic swallow
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"You wanna get smacked??"

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She's just like me -- weak to psychic damage.

silk igloo
silk igloo
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Dang it nightbot doesn't work in the threads 😭

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Oh well
HAP BIRTH NOOTZ

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silk igloo
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Naoto's Neutral special is... GUN

onyx trail
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Everything is a gun or kills you, or both.

silk igloo
agile hedge
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If only Bunnysuit Yukari, Mitsuru, Fuuka, Aigis and FeMC were actual costumes in the game...

onyx trail
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JoMarch yukari

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Yukari is contemplating at least a double homicide right now

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Minato will get out unharmed because look at that expression

agile hedge
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This also reminds me that I really really want canon Haru and Mitsuru interaction

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Swapping execution and business tips over fancy coffee

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silk igloo
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Y'know I never played it so maybe

agile hedge
silk igloo
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That also somewhat counts for Edelgard as well. They also share the trait of being war criminals.

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(I will not stop about Fire Emblem's war crimes)

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Speaking of girlboss, I seriously think Mitsuru, Elizabeth, Naoto, Margaret, Makoto, Haru and Sae just radiate girlboss energy in the Persona universe.

heavy obsidian
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Margaret's bold in P4/G. I clean forgot that when you go to say goodbye to all of your social links at the end of the game ||if you extend Margert a hand to give her a respectful handshake (because loyal boyfriend) she instead pulls MC into a kiss. It's like love the energy, but also My Girlfriend Is Right There Up The Street???||

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Look I love Elizabeth, she's great, but damn Margaret is fine

silk igloo
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Look, Elizabeth was my first Velvet Attendant (I started with P3), and she stole my heart from the beginning.

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I'm a loyal Elizabeth stan when it comes to Velvet Room attendants.

candid cargo
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Valid, her manic pixie energy is very good

onyx trail
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Has spoilers for almost the entire game

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silk igloo
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TIL that persona 5 has a hard coded limit to how many romantic confidants there can be at one time so in order to add in the four male romance routes they needed to remove a few of the existing

mighty pulsar
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I admittedly can't confirm that but that was mentioned in the replies to the FemJoker's VAs post so maybe?

toxic swallow
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Also, I think the voice direction wasn't good from what I've heard. There's one or 2 lines that sound good, but there no energy behind the personas when switching

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It's a lot of monotone

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||Execution-chan||

silk igloo
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PERSONA 5 REAL LIFE?!?

wise charm
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IT HAS HAPPENED

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yeah but without the psycho

silk igloo
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||So put Akechi in there as well and you have Junko.||

scarlet field
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lol I also saw Junko

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wise charm
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LMAO

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silk igloo
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I FORGOT, YESTERDAY WAS MITSURU'S BIRTHDAY

agile hedge
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Me too. We're going to be executed.

onyx trail
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🤝

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My man

silk igloo
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She's gonna execute us all.

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At least she has Yukari as her date as always.

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If I had a nickel for a Michelle Ruff character in a JRPG who has very lesbian energy around another party member, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened twice.

onyx trail
agile hedge
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I'd say three, but Zephie is the recipient of Rue's energy rather than giving the energy herself. But it's been a long time.

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Just trying to give you another nickle

torn prism
silk igloo
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||Still hate that scene with a passion. Why does Persona have to be like this.||

scarlet field
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RYUJI RESEPCT

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Atlus just sees him as a punching bag whom we can't date, but the fans see him as more than that.
I will be willing to pay $100,000,000 in order for a Ryuji Gay Romance mod (and a Yusuke Gay Romance mod, we need the gay in Persona)

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Yeah, outside of ||his utter asshole-ishness to Mona||, Ryuji doesn't deserve most of the disrespect he receives.

torn prism
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Even in that front, ||Mona has been an asshole to him from the beginning||.

silk igloo
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It's not Mona or Ryuji's fault. It's the writer's fault for deciding all this was necessary for "drama", while also being the directors "self-insert fic" that ignores the aesops it's trying to present to the audience.

toxic swallow
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FOLLOWED UP BY "MY ASEXUAL SON" AS YUSUKE LMAO

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I'm looking squarely at you, Wreck It Ralph, both of you

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silk igloo
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it truly is morbin time

silk igloo
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STAND BACK EVERYONE
I'M ABOUT TO MORB

toxic swallow
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NO!

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Don't summon your persona!

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silk igloo
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We were robbed.

agile hedge
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Yeah, crossbow over SMGs.

silk igloo
wise charm
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maybe I'm dumb but I never really noticed that P5 didn't have the characters have a unique texting style like P4 did

mighty pulsar
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Their way of texting is consistent with how they speak at least

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And with autocorrect and unlimited texting, the need for short t9 text slang has all but disappeared

candid cargo
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That's true

mighty pulsar
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Bro might just press space twice after every sentence for auto periods

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I miss Naoto's dumb texts

mighty pulsar
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The real reason is probably that play testers thought it looked weird

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Idk why it says email when Narukami is looking at a phone but eh w/e

mighty pulsar
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Because that's a Japan thing

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They had email on their phones WAY before the smartphone existed

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Oh I see
Yay more being an uncultured American

mighty pulsar
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Emojis are originally a Japanese thing too

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That's why there are so many emojis with kanji and references to Japan

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Unicode adopted their standard

candid cargo
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Huh
Neat

mighty pulsar
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Also why Japan has held onto flip phones for ages, they're more capable than the ones we had (and I guess change is scary lol)

candid cargo
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There's also an inherent flair to flip phones that smart phones don't have

mighty pulsar
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Flipping open a phone with a wrist flick objectively looks cool too

silk igloo
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I wanted the spring loaded Nokia from The Matrix, NGL.

heavy obsidian
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Motorolla Razor gang rise up

mighty pulsar
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The Razr was a real neat piece of 00s engineering

heavy obsidian
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IT WAS

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I had the infamous hot pink one uwu

mighty pulsar
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Never seen that one

heavy obsidian
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THIS one

mighty pulsar
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But the way they managed to fit all that (to our standards) outdated tech in such a slim package is amazing

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Oh jeez that's some T-Mobile looking pink

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My retinas

heavy obsidian
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I felt so stylish in the 2000s with this baby

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then I broke it and replaced it with a cute little Korean flip phone that came with a free ice cream charm and never looked back 😂

mighty pulsar
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Hdksh

wise charm
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Is it me or is Strikers too flashy?

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I literally can't play it

scarlet field
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it's definitley a lot

wise charm
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Stopped after the first jail literally

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silk igloo
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Reminder that Persona 2 is the gayest game in the entire Persona franchise, and Atlus wants us all to forget it existed because of how gay it was.

silk igloo
toxic swallow
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I'm bringing a Persona 5 Themed Team to Milwaukee. Do y'all want me to post it here when I can?

silk igloo
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Sure.

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Love how this devolved from Joker being killed in various ways to Ronald McDonald propaganda.

wise charm
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Persona fandom in a nutshell

silk igloo
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she adorable

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silk igloo
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these bitches gay
good for them
good for them

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tho I go with RyuAnnShiho OT3 because I don't like making hard choices and Ann can have both as a treat

silk igloo
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It's too bad that Atlus doesn't respect the LGBTQ+ community, they only gave us gay options in 2 games, and the director who said "no" to canon LGBTQ+ romance is also the same guy who said this:

silk igloo
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Watch it be another port announcement and then atlus dips again

wise charm
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July 3rd is also his birthday

silk igloo
scarlet field
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Please remember we don't post speculation/leaks here, even if the tweet ends in a funny joke

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Ah fair
I forgot that that's an actual speculation thing right now and not just a meme

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silk igloo
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Persona 5 royal even tho it was a rerelease with added content that wasn't in the vanilla version

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Ik persona 4 on steam isn't technically new but it came out in 2020 as well

toxic swallow
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Mitsuru😳

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Got a question: Is Makoto's cooking ability ever called into question?

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Never played through P5.

silk igloo
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As someone who's played Persona 5, I don't think they bring up Makoto's cooking.

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I don't think so
I think she's ok but they don't say

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No PS4/PS5, and by the time it came to Switch, I was already inundated with other ported games (13 Sentinels, Nier Automata) and XBC3.

silk igloo
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delicious

agile hedge
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P5 spoilers ||I never knew Akechi could speak cat. Meow.||

onyx trail
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NGL, but Bryan Cranston in the Heisenberg get up would make a great live action Sojiro.

wise charm
silk igloo
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RIP Intern-kun for posting this trailer so many days in advance 🫡

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now that said
where
the
fuck
is
FeMC

silk igloo
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WE GOT A PRETTY LOOKING AIGIS AND YUKARI, NOW WHERES FeMC AND MITSURU IN UNREAL ENGINE?!?

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espeically mitsuru

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but they really need to tell us is this FES, portable, original P3 or some combo of them

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that makes a preeeeeeeeeeety big diff

silk igloo
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I wonder if the "step on me" uniforms for SEES (known as the "Battle Panties" in game) will be kept

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honestly i just want them to make romance optional

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don't wanna think about how you have to stand up 4-5 girls on christmas eve

grand plank
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If they change it so everyone's second awakening is through their social link instead of through the main story, I will be upset

candid cargo
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i would be impressed

grand plank
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It would make the story demonstrably worse but it would be a very atlus thing to do

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"Let's make it more like Persona 5"

silk igloo
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I'm hoping they bring back Yuri Lowenthal as Door-Kun.

grand plank
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I'm excited for Junpei to hopefully finally get a new voice actor

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yeeaaaaaaaaaaaah

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that'll need to be a thing

onyx trail
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But yes I'm excited for the remake and let's just hope it isn't just Xbox or steam only

grand plank
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BROKEBACK TARTARUS

wise charm
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PERSONA 5 TACTICALLPLNIHV8ZG8UG

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omg, Fire Emblem X SMT lives again

onyx trail
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Oh yeah that one was revealed too the same day the p3r got revealed early on atlus official Twitter by accident

silk igloo
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Everywhere p3 goes lotus juice always comes back

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Welcome back king

silk igloo
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they are already announcing cast members, we have a complete recast, and a certain someone is voicing a certain queen of execution...
https://twitter.com/SimplyAllegra/status/1667970342458097665?s=20

PERSONA! 🔫❄️🏍️🗡️
 
It’s an absolute honor to share that I play Mitsuru Kirijo in Persona 3 Reload!!! I’m overwhelmed with gratitude that I get to be a part of this amazing series, and can’t wait to play the game alongside you ❤️❤️❤️

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JKNDFGJBNKFXDGJBNKFDGZJB;NKFSDGZJBNKFXDGJBNKFDGXFJNDGLKJNDLFXGJKNFDGFD

silk igloo
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I already posted the message, but YES

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I WAS TOO DECEASED TO NOTICE

silk igloo
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the LGBTQ community wins again

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i suppose that answers the "what are they doing about those two" question

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answer: total recast??

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this has implications

silk igloo
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Probably. Union concerns most likely.

onyx trail
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Or the vas are too old to do the voices anymore

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Cause Yuri's lowerhaul like 70 years old I think

grand plank
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I mean, the original cast did the voices for P3 dancing like 3 years ago

onyx trail
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But I wish the best for them

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actually, i have a third theory
having to recast only you-know-who might have made it extra jarring so maybe that was the idea?

grand plank
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P4G did only a couple recasts, so it wouldn’t be unprecedented

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idk i wasn't in the room where it happened

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regardless

silk igloo
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They put gays in my persona

grand plank
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Probably something we won’t ever get to know about

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OH SHIT

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ZENO

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LEZZ GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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THAT INDEED QUALIFIES AS "EXCELLENT CHOICE" MATERIAL

wise charm
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YOUVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME

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ALSO
TARA = EDIE
ALLEGRA = DORIE
Dorogard confirm????????? /s

onyx trail
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Everyone's getting recasted it seems

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Michelle ruff isn't coming back for the remake

silk igloo
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OH

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WHAT

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W

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ALEKS???

onyx trail
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Idk if that's legit or not but

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I checked his Twitter and nothing

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SUZIE???
FUKKA/EULA CROSSOVER ART INCOMING??

onyx trail
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I can never escape her voice

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Eula haunts me everywhere

silk igloo
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I play the Protagonist in Persona 3 Reload 🌕

Honored to join this beloved series & to be filling the shoes of my hero. @YuriLowenthal hugged me & said “I’m so happy it’s you!” & I started crying.

I’ll give it MORE than everything 🙇🏻‍♂️ without falter, with my heart as a guide…

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omg Yuri 🥹

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silk igloo
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Glad to see the OG cast signing off on the newer actors, very heartwarming to see them pass the torch to this new generation.

kind wasp
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Ayyyyyy Allegra as Mitsuru

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So we went from Edelgard to Dorothea

hollow matrix
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I have never played a Persona game. But this announcement... well, it has my attention 👀

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BUT LIKE
PLAY PERSONA DARN IT TOM

silk igloo
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BURN THY BREAD

hollow matrix
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😂

agile hedge
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EXECUTION TIME?!

hollow matrix
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The most I know about Mitsuru is that she's a pretty redheaded swordswoman. And that's because I was asked to make an emote of her.

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I'm not a complete stranger to Persona - I watched part of a friend's playthrough of P5R and... yikes 😅

silk igloo
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Just don't piss her off. She has a thing about executions.