#Make Boiling water great again

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uncut otter
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Hello, I'm lunat and I love boiling water a bit too much and boiling water in gregtech is terrible in both ways, so, about this:

Section One: LBBs suck

Wow, how unexpected. LBBs, or Large Bronze Boilers(literally all Large boilers, really), were a rookie trap for years in GT, gtceu/gtm are not an exception. You need 25-26 coke ovens to run one LBB canstantly, wasting all of its contents, both creosote and coal. And LBBs don't even have any benefits, like making a more energy dense steam, so it could be better transfered around the base, but that's not the main issue of LBB, of course.

LBBs. SUCK. FOR. STEAM. GENERATION.
more on that in section 2


Section Two: SingleBlocks are OP

Now that was really unexpected. To understand the scale of how mediocre LBBs are compared to HP liquid/solid fuel boilers allow me to introduce some maths:

So, 26 cokes generate 0.57(7) coal/s and 144.44(4) L/s, just so you can run ONE(one) LBB

At 480s per 1 coal SBoilers(HP Solid Fuel Boilers) eat about 0.002 coal/s, so you can place 288.5 boilers or generate up to 4327.5 Steam/Tick. Wow, that's quite a bit of steam, right? But that's not the ful picture yet

At 180s per 250L or creosote LBoilers( HPLiquid Fuel Boilers) eat about 1.38(8)L/s, so about 104.6 LBoilers, or 3104 Steam/Tick

7467 Steam/Tick or roughly 117 LVA for a cheap price of steel, iron and constant supply of wood.

But noone would make this any time early, so let's be realistic:

Section Three: Coke ovens are OP

Ok, who needs more than one coke? Do I look like a person who lives in his blocky world 24/7? I don't have time for all the clay/sand grind!

Ok, here's the sollution: just build one.

With ONLY ONE coke you can make:

0.02(2) coal/s, aka you can supply 11 SBoilers for 166 Steam/Tick
5.5(5) L/s, aka you can supply 4 LBoilers for 120 Steam/Tick

Literally easy 4.5A of LV just with one coke and not so much grind, just perfect for start of LV. While LBB can't even heat up to produce it's max 800 Steam/Tick.

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My point is, this stuff needs a huge rebalance. Singleblocks just destroy LBBs in terms of efficiency, for both solids and liquids, and LBBs have no upsides to that, literally a huge waste of space, which makes 10x times less if you have a time to make singleblocks or just setup Light Fuel ASAP.

cinder owl
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Boiling water is STUPID and you should REPENT FOR YOUR SINS /j

gritty crane
uncut otter
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you literally need only like 4 cokes for same productivity

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welp, you'll still produce even more than one LBB with just singles this way

gritty crane
uncut otter
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nah, not really

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depends on how you look at it

gritty crane
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yes really, I'm talking about space there

uncut otter
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phylosophically literally the same number

gritty crane
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as in, "it takes less space" can't be an argument either

severe rover
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i use 16 coke ovens to run 1 bbf at 30% ๐Ÿ˜„

narrow knot
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They should also add something more energy dense than steam. Pipes with the flow rate to handle steam are very expensive. Maybe molten metals, helium, or molten salts as a heat transfer medium.

severe rover
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Molten salts would be good, used irl i believe

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Solar farms use it that would be pretty cool but idk seems more like an addon

uncut otter
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reminder, this shit takes 30s to heat up

uncut otter
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oh, bbf

uncut otter
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actually wait that doesn't really make sense still

gritty crane
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wait what does 30% even mean for bbf

uncut otter
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welp, As I remember even with wrought for 1 steel you need like

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1.25 coke

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no

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30s recipe for 1 steel or something

severe rover
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i meant bronze boiler my bad

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im used to saying bbf

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this thing

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dont mind the cheaty setup

uncut otter
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again, lbbs are shit

dry raft
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Hello, I'm lunat and I love boiling water a bit too much and boiling water in gregtech is terrible in both ways, so, about this: Section One: LBBs suck. Wow, how unexpected. LBBs, or Large Bronze Boilers(literally all Large boilers, really), were a rookie trap for years in GT, gtceu/gtm are not an exception. You need 25-26 coke ovens to run one LBB canstantly, wasting all of its contents, both creosote and coal. And LBBs don't even have any benefits, like making a more energy dense steam, so it could be better transfered around the base, but that's not the main issue of LBB, of course. LBBs. SUCK. FOR. STEAM. GENERATION. more on that in section 2. Section Two: SingleBlocks are OP. Now that was really unexpected. To understand the scale of how mediocre LBBs are compared to HP liquid/solid fuel boilers allow me to introduce some maths: So, 26 cokes generate 0.57(7) coal/s and 144.44(4) L/s, just so you can run ONE(one) LBB. At 480s per 1 coal SBoilers(HP Solid Fuel Boilers) eat about 0.002 coal/s, so you can place 288.5 boilers or generate up to 4327.5 Steam/Tick. Wow, that's quite a bit of steam, right? But that's not the ful picture yet. At 180s per 250L or creosote LBoilers( HPLiquid Fuel Boilers) eat about 1.38(8)L/s, so about 104.6 LBoilers, or 3104 Steam/Tick. 7467 Steam/Tick or roughly 117 LVA for a cheap price of steel, iron and constant supply of wood. But noone would make this any time early, so let's be realistic: Section Three: Coke ovens are OP. Ok, who needs more than one coke? Do I look like a person who lives in his blocky world 24/7? I don't have time for all the clay/sand grind! Ok, here's the sollution: just build one. With ONLY ONE coke you can make: 0.02(2) coal/s, aka you can supply 11 SBoilers for 166 Steam/Tick. 5.5(5) L/s, aka you can supply 4 LBoilers for 120 Steam/Tick. Literally easy 4.5A of LV just with one coke and not so much grind, just perfect for start of LV. While LBB can't even heat up to produce it's max 800 Steam/Tick.

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^ Copypasta Format :3

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(I'm joking this can get you muted)

gritty crane
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lmao, that's the second copypasta-rant by lunat for gt community it seems

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will there be more

uncut otter
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yeah probbaly

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But I need you to make the longest gt shitpost after exams

mortal prism
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Hello, I'm lunat and I love boiling water a bit too much and boiling water in gregtech is terrible in both ways, so, about this: Section One: LBBs suck. Wow, how unexpected. LBBs, or Large Bronze Boilers(literally all Large boilers, really), were a rookie trap for years in GT, gtceu/gtm are not an exception. You need 25-26 coke ovens to run one LBB canstantly, wasting all of its contents, both creosote and coal. And LBBs don't even have any benefits, like making a more energy dense steam, so it could be better transfered around the base, but that's not the main issue of LBB, of course. LBBs. SUCK. FOR. STEAM. GENERATION. more on that in section 2. Section Two: SingleBlocks are OP. Now that was really unexpected. To understand the scale of how mediocre LBBs are compared to HP liquid/solid fuel boilers allow me to introduce some maths: So, 26 cokes generate 0.57(7) coal/s and 144.44(4) L/s, just so you can run ONE(one) LBB. At 480s per 1 coal SBoilers(HP Solid Fuel Boilers) eat about 0.002 coal/s, so you can place 288.5 boilers or generate up to 4327.5 Steam/Tick. Wow, that's quite a bit of steam, right? But that's not the ful picture yet. At 180s per 250L or creosote LBoilers( HPLiquid Fuel Boilers) eat about 1.38(8)L/s, so about 104.6 LBoilers, or 3104 Steam/Tick. 7467 Steam/Tick or roughly 117 LVA for a cheap price of steel, iron and constant supply of wood. But noone would make this any time early, so let's be realistic: Section Three: Coke ovens are OP. Ok, who needs more than one coke? Do I look like a person who lives in his blocky world 24/7? I don't have time for all the clay/sand grind! Ok, here's the sollution: just build one. With ONLY ONE coke you can make: 0.02(2) coal/s, aka you can supply 11 SBoilers for 166 Steam/Tick. 5.5(5) L/s, aka you can supply 4 LBoilers for 120 Steam/Tick. Literally easy 4.5A of LV just with one coke and not so much grind, just perfect for start of LV. While LBB can't even heat up to produce it's max 800 Steam/Tick.

gritty crane
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Hello, I'm lunat and I love boiling water a bit too much and boiling water in gregtech is terrible in both ways, so, about this: Section One: LBBs suck. Wow, how unexpected. LBBs, or Large Bronze Boilers(literally all Large boilers, really), were a rookie trap for years in GT, gtceu/gtm are not an exception. You need 25-26 coke ovens to run one LBB canstantly, wasting all of its contents, both creosote and coal. And LBBs don't even have any benefits, like making a more energy dense steam, so it could be better transfered around the base, but that's not the main issue of LBB, of course. LBBs. SUCK. FOR. STEAM. GENERATION. more on that in section 2. Section Two: SingleBlocks are OP. Now that was really unexpected. To understand the scale of how mediocre LBBs are compared to HP liquid/solid fuel boilers allow me to introduce some maths: So, 26 cokes generate 0.57(7) coal/s and 144.44(4) L/s, just so you can run ONE(one) LBB. At 480s per 1 coal SBoilers(HP Solid Fuel Boilers) eat about 0.002 coal/s, so you can place 288.5 boilers or generate up to 4327.5 Steam/Tick. Wow, that's quite a bit of steam, right? But that's not the ful picture yet. At 180s per 250L or creosote LBoilers( HPLiquid Fuel Boilers) eat about 1.38(8)L/s, so about 104.6 LBoilers, or 3104 Steam/Tick. 7467 Steam/Tick or roughly 117 LVA for a cheap price of steel, iron and constant supply of wood. But noone would make this any time early, so let's be realistic: Section Three: Coke ovens are OP. Ok, who needs more than one coke? Do I look like a person who lives in his blocky world 24/7? I don't have time for all the clay/sand grind! Ok, here's the sollution: just build one. With ONLY ONE coke you can make: 0.02(2) coal/s, aka you can supply 11 SBoilers for 166 Steam/Tick. 5.5(5) L/s, aka you can supply 4 LBoilers for 120 Steam/Tick. Literally easy 4.5A of LV just with one coke and not so much grind, just perfect for start of LV. While LBB can't even heat up to produce it's max 800 Steam/Tick.

severe rover
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Hello, ๐Ÿ™‹โ€โ™€๏ธ I'm ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿฆ† lunat and I ๐ŸŒ€ love ๐Ÿ˜™ boiling ๐Ÿ˜ฌ water ๐Ÿšฐ a bit ๐Ÿ˜ too ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ฒ much ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ’˜ and boiling ๐Ÿ˜ฌ water ๐Ÿ’ง in ๐Ÿ‘ gregtech is terrible in ๐Ÿ˜› both ๐ŸŒœ ways, ๐Ÿ’ซ so, about ๐Ÿคท this: Section ๐Ÿ“ฆ One: 1๏ธโƒฃ LBBs suck. ๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ“๐Ÿ“ Wow, ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ณ how ๐Ÿค” unexpected. ๐Ÿคญ LBBs, or Large ๐Ÿ”ถโฌœ Bronze ๐Ÿฅ‰๐Ÿค” Boilers(literally all ๐Ÿ’ฏ Large ๐Ÿ“ˆ boilers, really), ๐Ÿšบ were ๐ŸŽˆ a rookie trap ๐Ÿ™Š for ๐Ÿ’ผ years ๐ŸŽ‰ in ๐Ÿ’ฎ GT, ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ gtceu/gtm are not ๐Ÿ˜ an exception. You ๐Ÿ‘ˆ need ๐Ÿ˜‹ 25-26 coke ๐Ÿฅค ovens to run ๐Ÿƒ one 1๏ธโƒฃโ˜๏ธ LBB canstantly, wasting ๐Ÿชž all ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿคท of its contents, both ๐Ÿ’ก creosote and coal.

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๐Ÿฅด And LBBs don't ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ˜ก even ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ’ฅ have ๐Ÿคจ any ๐Ÿ’ฌ benefits, like ๐Ÿ˜ญ making โ˜๏ธ a more โž• energy ๐Ÿคธโ€โ™€๏ธ dense ๐Ÿ˜ steam, ๐Ÿš‚ so it could ๐Ÿคท be ๐Ÿ’ธ better ๐Ÿ‘€ transfered around โž•๐Ÿœ๏ธโžก๏ธ๐Ÿ‘ค the base, ๐Ÿ‘„ but ๐Ÿ‘„ that's ๐ŸŽ† not โ›” the main issue ๐Ÿ˜ญ of LBB, of course. ๐Ÿด LBBs. SUCK. ๐Ÿ“ FOR. ๐Ÿ”ฐ STEAM. ๐Ÿ˜ค GENERATION. ๐Ÿ‘ช more ๐ŸฆŽ on ๐Ÿ”› that ๐Ÿš”๐Ÿ‘ผ๐ŸšŸ in ๐ŸŒ‹ section ๐Ÿ“ฆ 2. ๐Ÿ™ˆ Section ๐Ÿ“ฆ Two: โœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘ฅ SingleBlocks are OP. ๐Ÿ˜ณ Now ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ‹๏ธ that ๐Ÿ’ฌ was really ๐Ÿ˜ง๐Ÿ”” unexpected. ๐Ÿคญ To understand ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿซ๐Ÿ“– the scale of how ๐Ÿ’ฏ mediocre LBBs are compared ๐Ÿ˜กโœŠ๐Ÿ” to HP liquid/solid fuel โ›ฝ boilers allow ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ๐ŸŽซ๐ŸŽซ me ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ to introduce some ๐Ÿ˜‹ maths: So, 26 cokes generate ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜‚ 0.57(7) coal/s and 144.44(4) L/s, just ๐Ÿคช so you ๐Ÿ‘‰ can ๐Ÿ˜€ run ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ฑ ONE(one) LBB. At 480s per 1 ๐Ÿ• coal โšซ SBoilers(HP Solid Fuel ๐Ÿค” Boilers) eat ๐Ÿ’ƒ about ๐Ÿ’ญ 0.002 coal/s, so you ๐Ÿ‘‰ can ๐Ÿฅซ place ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ† 288.5 boilers or generate ๐ŸŒŸโœจ up ๐Ÿ˜ฑ to 4327.5 Steam/Tick.

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Wow, ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ฑ that's ๐Ÿค– quite โœ… a bit ๐Ÿ˜ of steam, ๐Ÿš‚ right? โ˜๐Ÿฝ But ๐Ÿ‘„ that's ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿป not ๐Ÿ˜ฎ the ful picture ๐Ÿ–ผ๏ธ yet. ๐Ÿ‘Œโ— At 180s per 250L or creosote LBoilers( HPLiquid Fuel ๐Ÿ˜” Boilers) eat ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ about ๐Ÿค” 1.38(8)L/s, so about ๐Ÿ’ฅ 104.6 LBoilers, or 3104 Steam/Tick. 7467 Steam/Tick or roughly ๐Ÿ˜– 117 LVA for 4๏ธโƒฃ a cheap ๐Ÿ”– price ๐Ÿ’ฒ of steel, iron and constant supply of wood. ๐Ÿ‘บ But ๐Ÿค” noone would ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ‘ช make ๐Ÿ™‹ this any ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ‘ time ๐Ÿ•ง๐Ÿ•š๐Ÿ•“โŒ› early, ๐Ÿ• so let's ๐Ÿฅบ be ๐Ÿคฐ realistic: Section ๐Ÿ“ฆ Three: 3๏ธโƒฃ Coke ๐Ÿฅค ovens are OP. ๐Ÿ˜ณ Ok, ๐Ÿ™†โ€โ™‚ who โ“ needs ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™Œ more โž• than ๐Ÿ˜ป one 1๏ธโƒฃ coke? ๐Ÿ“ท Do ๐Ÿ˜‚ I ๐Ÿ˜Š look ๐Ÿ‘€ like ๐Ÿ’– a person ๐Ÿ‘ซ who โ“๐Ÿ‘ lives ๐Ÿ‘ค๐Ÿ‘ˆ๐Ÿ’“ in ๐Ÿ‘ฎ his ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ค blocky world ๐ŸŒŽ 24/7? I ๐Ÿ“บ don't ๐Ÿฅณ๐Ÿฅณ๐Ÿฅณ have ๐Ÿ”ฆ time โฐ for ๐Ÿค”๐ŸŽ… all ๐Ÿ‘พ the clay/sand grind! ๐Ÿ’ช Ok, ๐Ÿ†— here's ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ the sollution: just ๐Ÿ‘ build ๐Ÿ“ท one. โœ‚๏ธ๐Ÿ‘ผ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿพ1๏ธโƒฃ1๏ธโƒฃ With ONLY โ˜๏ธ ONE ๐Ÿ• coke ๐Ÿ“ท you ๐Ÿ‘ฆ๐Ÿ‘ˆ can ๐ŸฆŽ make: ๐Ÿˆ 0.02(2) coal/s, aka you ๐Ÿ‘† can ๐Ÿ’ž supply 11 ๐Ÿ•š SBoilers for ๐Ÿ’ผ 166 Steam/Tick. 5.5(5) L/s, aka you ๐ŸฆŽ can ๐Ÿ‘„ supply 4 ๐Ÿ™‡ LBoilers for ๐Ÿˆบ 120 Steam/Tick. Literally ๐Ÿ‘€ easy ๐Ÿ˜ฉ 4.5A of LV just ๐Ÿ˜• with one ๐Ÿ“ท coke ๐Ÿฅค and not โŒ so much ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ™€ grind, ๐Ÿ’ช just โ“ perfect ๐Ÿ’ฏ for ๐ŸŽ…๐ŸŽ start ๐Ÿ”˜๐Ÿ”˜ of LV. While โณ๐Ÿ‘ถ LBB can't ๐Ÿ‘ฝ even ๐ŸŒƒ heat ๐Ÿฅต up ๐Ÿ”บ to produce ๐Ÿ˜ต it's max 800 ๐Ÿ•— Steam/Tick.

dry raft
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lmfaoo emoji-fied

gritty crane
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ew

ionic compass
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Hello, I'm lunat and I love boiling water a bit too much and boiling water in gregtech is terrible in both ways, so, about this: Section One: LBBs suck. Wow, how unexpected. LBBs, or Large Bronze Boilers(literally all Large boilers, really), were a rookie trap for years in GT, gtceu/gtm are not an exception. You need 25-26 coke ovens to run one LBB canstantly, wasting all of its contents, both creosote and coal. And LBBs don't even have any benefits, like making a more energy dense steam, so it could be better transfered around the base, but that's not the main issue of LBB, of course. LBBs. SUCK. FOR. STEAM. GENERATION. more on that in section 2. Section Two: SingleBlocks are OP. Now that was really unexpected. To understand the scale of how mediocre LBBs are compared to HP liquid/solid fuel boilers allow me to introduce some maths: So, 26 cokes generate 0.57(7) coal/s and 144.44(4) L/s, just so you can run ONE(one) LBB. At 480s per 1 coal SBoilers(HP Solid Fuel Boilers) eat about 0.002 coal/s, so you can place 288.5 boilers or generate up to 4327.5 Steam/Tick. Wow, that's quite a bit of steam, right? But that's not the ful picture yet. At 180s per 250L or creosote LBoilers( HPLiquid Fuel Boilers) eat about 1.38(8)L/s, so about 104.6 LBoilers, or 3104 Steam/Tick. 7467 Steam/Tick or roughly 117 LVA for a cheap price of steel, iron and constant supply of wood. But noone would make this any time early, so let's be realistic: Section Three: Coke ovens are OP. Ok, who needs more than one coke? Do I look like a person who lives in his blocky world 24/7? I don't have time for all the clay/sand grind! Ok, here's the sollution: just build one. With ONLY ONE coke you can make: 0.02(2) coal/s, aka you can supply 11 SBoilers for 166 Steam/Tick. 5.5(5) L/s, aka you can supply 4 LBoilers for 120 Steam/Tick. Literally easy 4.5A of LV just with one coke and not so much grind, just perfect for start of LV. While LBB can't even heat up to produce it's max 800 Steam/Tick.

wary wigeon
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My name is Lunat. I'm 26 coke ovens into the steam generation. My house is in the northeast section of a 100% humidity biome, where all the water is, and I am not married. I work as an employee for german coal generator maintenance, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't drink, but I breathe smoke a lot. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm creosote and doing about twenty minutes of replacing my supplementary array of solar boilers before going to bed, I usually have problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning knowing well that my HP Liquid Boilers can supplement me my sweet spare 117 LV amps. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a life dedicated to boiling water. I take care not to trouble myself with any power issues, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with the powergen, and I know that is what brings me 7467 Steam/Tick. Although, if I was forced to use LBBs I'd make a thousand of them.

gritty crane
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My name is Lunat. I'm 26 coke ovens into the steam generation. My house is in the northeast section of a 100% humidity biome, where all the water is, and I am not married. I work as an employee for german coal generator maintenance, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't drink, but I breathe smoke a lot. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm creosote and doing about twenty minutes of replacing my supplementary array of solar boilers before going to bed, I usually have problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning knowing well that my HP Liquid Boilers can supplement me my sweet spare 117 LV amps. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a life dedicated to boiling water. I take care not to trouble myself with any power issues, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with the powergen, and I know that is what brings me 7467 Steam/Tick. Although, if I was forced to use LBBs I'd make a thousand of them.

dry raft
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My name is Lunat. I'm 26 coke ovens into the steam generation. My house is in the northeast section of a 100% humidity biome, where all the water is, and I am not married. I work as an employee for german coal generator maintenance, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't drink, but I breathe smoke a lot. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm creosote and doing about twenty minutes of replacing my supplementary array of solar boilers before going to bed, I usually have problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning knowing well that my HP Liquid Boilers can supplement me my sweet spare 117 LV amps. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a life dedicated to boiling water. I take care not to trouble myself with any power issues, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with the powergen, and I know that is what brings me 7467 Steam/Tick. Although, if I was forced to use LBBs I'd make a thousand of them.

exotic berry
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CEu would really benefit from an NH-style heat exchanger

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Make LSTs Viable Again

wooden frost
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Water cooled research station

pearl oasis
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Please god the research station does not need more help

slim sonnet
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holly shid its real

uncut otter
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whar

slim sonnet
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buff lbb, nerf singleblocks, nerf creosote

uncut otter