Airbnb swe vs Spacex swe

[proud mica]

bnb gaps

[livid steeple]

How

Like besides paying a lot what do they do that makes them interesting

[earnest forum]

Nothing imo

but not like many other companies do something interesting

[livid steeple]

Spacex does tho

[earnest forum]

true but for exp & resume value Airbnb is better

[livid steeple]

The stated priority is learning and growth tho

[earnest forum]

I still think taking airbnb is better overall

[livid steeple]

I don't rly understand the Airbnb hype

Like I consistently see it in S tier or whatever

[earnest forum]

Bad google team vs best team at new and upcoming engineering org at Mcdoanlds ML

learnin and growth prob better at mcd

[livid steeple]

But if you ask anyone outside this server I don't think it'll be nearly that hyped

[earnest forum]

But nobody will take that / you shouldn’t

[livid steeple]

It seems manufactured in this server

But idk

[earnest forum]

Hm maybe

[sly jacinth]

amazing wlb / remote work, name brand recognition, big success of yc, high comp. even if their product isn’t super cool for resume value it def gaps space x

[inland stump]

I wanted to follow up and ask a bit more abt how these names are perceived in the swe industry as well

[livid steeple]

1. if the person wants growth and learning then coasting / remote is not for them
2. everyone knows what spacex is
3. its a $76B company, the fact they were yc funded a long time ago is meaningless now (not only that, but the stock has been stagnant since IPO. its barely moved in the last 5 years)
4. again they did not say money is a priority

[feral plover]

bnb no diff

[livid steeple]

I wonder if any of you had this opinion before joining this server

[feral plover]

i did

[livid steeple]

I think its manufactured hype in this server specifically

[feral plover]

i knew abt rankings of these companies prior to joining

ik bnb has crazy TCs

[livid steeple]

the rankings were prob made by ppl in cscd

no one else would bother to make a company ranking

[livid steeple]

again the poster didnt say money is their priority

its also not even much higher than spacex

its a 10k tc entry level difference according to levels

[blazing spoke]

Airbnb easy

[plucky meteor]

airbnb is considered top tier outside of this server

[livid steeple]

I mean

arent you biased lol

[plucky meteor]

? how

[livid steeple]

oh must be someone else

thought u were airbnb

[plucky meteor]

i thought airbnb was top tier before even joining

most ppl on blind, linkedin, etc. would also consider airbnb top tier

[livid steeple]

but why

comp and wlb?

[plucky meteor]

comp, wlb, prestige

also ownership

there's v few ppl

[livid steeple]

wheres the prestige come from

like github gets clowned on for being a remote internship

why does airbnb get glazed for it

[plucky meteor]

idt gh is clowned on for being remote i haven't heard that

[livid steeple]

Ive heard that

[plucky meteor]

selectivity and pay, also there's interesting eng work

nobody pays what they do and is full remote

if gh matched bnb pay & levels it'd be considered equally prestigious

[livid steeple]

I guess if money is the goal

then sure

[plucky meteor]

i think growth and learning will be better at bnb too

[livid steeple]

like you say its prestigious in addition to high comb and wlb

and your justification for the prestige is the comb and wlb

[plucky meteor]

there's way more ownership than spacex fs

[livid steeple]

its kinda circular reasoning

[plucky meteor]

prestige is circular tho

[livid steeple]

like high comp does not imply prestige

amazon pays 215k in bay

[plucky meteor]

thats bc amazon hires a ton

or at least did

p much everywhere that pays well and is selective is considered prestigious

[livid steeple]

even tho its remote? you wont be able to meet anyone or be in the office environment

unless they do smthn similar to github where theres 1 week in person

[plucky meteor]

bnb interns get a ton of ownership over their projs

also i think they push u quite a bit

[livid steeple]

what would the projects even be

like if you compare the problems to be solved at spaceX vs airbnb

im not sure theres any competition there

[plucky meteor]

i forget but there's a prev airbnb intern here and i rmbr his project being quite intense

he did a ton of work

smth with kafka is all i rmbr

[plucky meteor]

learning and growth is a bit diff than interesting problems tho

u could have a really shitty problem to solve and still learn a ton

or vice versa

[plucky meteor]

airbnb name is much better

[livid steeple]

true

still I think most of the airbnb voters voted on hype and what theyve seen in tier-lists and on blind/this server

not a fan of remote internships. I think it defeats the point of an internship which is to be in that corporate environment and learn from ftes in-person

I also dont see the logical reason why airbnbs name would be much better, spacex is also selective and very well known. just having a low HC doesnt make it prestigious

still I admit airbnbs intern projects are probably pretty hard / youll learn a lot

[sly jacinth]

not talking abt this post specifically i mean generally why airbnb is hyped up. also being the success story of yc helps haha

[frank lava]

i used to think the same way. as someone who did a remote internship, i do think it’s overstated that being remote is worse early career. it’s definitely what you make of it because there’s not as much pressure to do work (easier to study in a library or coffee shop than at home). but not once have i looked back and thought it was harder to get help or mentorship; in reality i got more mentorship there than working at other companies

as for why people love airbnb it’s because senior engineers tend to start looking for places to coast instead of grind. airbnb has a super good remote policy, good pay, and even has perks for using airbnbs along with just having great wlb.

highly recommend choosing a compant where you have the option to grind over one where it’s the norm

for the sake of learning and growing being the only priorities i can agree with you, but i don’t think airbnb is at all overrated from the sentiment i’ve seen in this server

[warped mason]

If I remember correctly at least for FT you can go into their office in SF if you want to so you do have the option to meet people

[inland stump]

same policy wth the internship

but im just worried about level of mentorship i could receive if most of the team just doesn't come to the office

[warped mason]

mentorship is overrated I prob learned the most at my first job and they basically have no Ng learning structure at all. For internships I think what matters most is the project u get to work on

[fallen delta]

how many inspriational

[tiny fulcrum]

airbnb good

[tiny fulcrum]

real

[tulip cosmos]

I strongly disagree. Every friend of mine at SpaceX has ridiculous amounts of ownership and it's actually often too much

@inland stump I feel that this server (and r/csmajors) just overhypes companies that seem rare and that there's been years of echo chambering this sentiment.

Airbnb is known for great WLB and pay and I would personally prefer to work there. That said, I believe engineers at SpaceX will be doing harder/cooler work. I know one person at Airbnb and he just goes to work and lives the rest of his life. I know 3 at SpaceX and while they work/stress more, they're definitely doing cooler stuff and learning a lot more

If your goal is really learning and growth, then I believe SpaceX is better

[hollow thorn]

found another engineer

[tiny fulcrum]

this is likely true

at least for technical growth