blah

[willow grove]

no significant prevs

startups/small companies

but solid exp there

Please justify your choice in poll if possb:

fr?

[willow grove]

yeah that makes sense, but im assuming that's cuz of return offer

i wanna do standalone fall if possb

i see, do u think theyll lemme do just fall

[mossy gale]

Can you teach me how to make it bro 🥀

[willow grove]

shit's rng twin 😔

[mossy gale]

😔

[willow grove]

goddamn really?

intern recruiting for me has been p easy this season

got. alot of procs

is ng really that much worse

[mossy gale]

R u from MIT 💀

[willow grove]

fuck no

.

[mossy gale]

Oh were u on the ICPC team 🤔

[willow grove]

bro

its not quant

it's tdoe it's mid

only thing that carries is name

yeah exactly

pay is good but shit work afaik

fair enough, do you think i should try and ask suno to push to fall

or could that trigger rescind

[mossy gale]

Cause when I see UW Madison + cracked international I instantly think about one of my friends there lol

[willow grove]

appreciate it, but nah not icpc or anything mathlete related

ah i see okay ill try then

yeah exactly im fucking stuck

ill try something tho thanks

[tender wedge]

hey, can I dm u about your js proc?

[warm mantle]

dude suno gaps in terms of h1b too

high tc in cambridge

he's like lottery level 4

suno is better than faang

[willow grove]

Not as much of a name brand tho, but work is sure to be better

@warm mantle do you think I should try and ask suno to push or not worth the risk?

[warm mantle]

nah i wouldn't for startup tbh

if it was a big company fs

[willow grove]

hmm alr yeah asking seems a bit risky and maybe not worth it for js

For js?

3

P hard I thought I sold, but if you wanna ask about proc dm

[placid ember]

renege capital one

[warm mantle]

doesn't tdoe have ass exits

that doesn't say much

orz

[proud granite]

You can ask to interview for swe intern with tdoe offer fwiw

Tdoe is straight buns

Little to no growth

And pigeon hole

Don’t get baited by name

[willow grove]

oh wait what fr?

will they put me in like the start of the proc or gimme final

[proud granite]

Not sure abt that, but ik you can interview for it

[raw perch]

they do allow? i thought js considered u only for one role each cycle

[raw perch]

^^ prioritise h1b

[willow grove]

tbf I'm not passing the swe screen lol but I'll do it once I'm sure about suno

[raw perch]

whats the deadline for js offer

[willow grove]

1 month from now

[raw perch]

whens ur suno start date then

Have u alr req cpt?

[willow grove]

I can just cancel it, not a big deal

[magic swift]

both are level 4 for h1b but not by a lot

nyc l4 is 190k
cambridge l4 is 178k

[raw perch]

isnt the latest for nyc l4 210k?

yeah same

[lone bramble]

@willow grove what was suno proc?

[magic swift]

wages increase by ~10k every year, so expect it to be 200+ by the time you graduate

think so

[willow grove]

how easy will it be to re recruit with a non swe role on resume?

[willow grove]

rec screen , tech, virtualonsite

[lone bramble]

bruh i applied suno with special treehacks app but no luck🥹

but lowk ive no prevs now

[willow grove]

oh i see, okay i guess worst case ill end up in level 3

whichisnt the worst

[willow grove]

suno's random lol, depends on which recruiter you get

there's a couple tougher ones

[lone bramble]

You should be fine at l3 too, and im guessing suno is a startup so they might adjust to ur requests unlike js

[willow grove]

yeah i dont mind taking a tc hit to up my base and get into l4

hopefully theyl accomodate something liek that

[lone bramble]

Yeah exactly

[magic swift]

how does googles ai music thing compare to suno

[raw perch]

u wont really take a hit, theyll just up ur base and lower ur stocks by a bit, suno will deffo accomodate that for talent

[silent helm]

😭

[crisp holly]

Suno

[willow grove]

i thoguht the whole point of giving stock was so they could skimp on base?

but yeah itll be great if i dont have to compromise

either way ion mind

just need l4

[raw perch]

no these guys would rather give higher base than dilute

[willow grove]

oh i see

adn do you know what the exit opps look like for companies like suno

[lavish hawk]

@willow grove Also may be good to know that past RO jane street never rlly fires

At most they’ll give u bad bonus

But u won’t be fired for performance

[vast tapir]

Js easily

[willow grove]

Oh I see, so they don't have pip and shit?

[willow grove]

Do tdoes even have bonus cuz I've been hearing different stuff

[willow grove]

it's tdoe bro not swe

[lavish hawk]

Not sure about tdoe specific stuff

[lavish hawk]

Yeah not rlly

[lavish hawk]

From what ik tho, downsides are it’s always in office tho and no progression, tdoe->swe isn’t rlly a thing, hard to exit

[elfin root]

suno def

dont sell ur whole career j for a few extra 100k

[willow grove]

yeah exactly I'm worried I'll get stuck

And do they not have promos in the tdoe path?

[willow grove]

fair enough yeah I'll prolly end up taking suno, do you think it's worth hitting them up and asking if I can push to fall

I've alr signed for summer tho

[solemn peak]

^^ summarised basically

[elfin root]

nah j do summer

especially cause they have high ro

[lavish hawk]

Not rlly idt

Even swe doesn’t have promo rlly

[lavish hawk]

Summary is basically:

JS you’ll have a super super safe career but be instantly capped

Suno you’ll have more growth potential but normal career

[solemn peak]

for js work would be quite diff also

[lavish hawk]

Yea true

Will be boring

[solemn peak]

compared to suno

[lavish hawk]

(imo)

[solemn peak]

hella boring

[lavish hawk]

if u just want stability and safety while making good money and dgaf abt ur job then take js

[craggy elm]

Wait for like js could you like pivot to like sre/production engineer type roles?

Or is it that useless

[lavish hawk]

they dont rlly have that do they?

tdoe is just catch-all for this kinda stuff

i thought

[willow grove]

u sure? because i wanna also try an re recruit for ng, and i think having js + suno on resume will help

which is why im wondering whether it could be worth it to try and ask suno to push

[willow grove]

tbh i dont even know what tdoes do atp

is it like devops?

[lavish hawk]

Heard its just catch-all for low prio swe work they dont want swes to waste time on lol

[lavish hawk]

If u word it right then theres def no risk

to asking

[willow grove]

oh lol wtf damn

[lavish hawk]

i mean given ur intl especially i think if u could do both thats optimal

[willow grove]

yeah defn dont wanna be doing tdoe full time seems like

[lavish hawk]

I mean its fine

it pays a ton

and its stable and chill

if ur goal is super cool high impact work tho then yea maybe not

[willow grove]

yeah i wanna do both lol but trying to do that means i risk getting rescinded by suno

whihc i do NOT want happening

[willow grove]

any ideas as to how i could ask?

[willow grove]

yeah that's fairly important but also i wanna have good exit opps

tdoe doesnt give me that

[lavish hawk]

Be more gentle about not saying no to summer

I’d be rlly interested in summer but it would be a bit easier schedule wise if u can do fl

fall

etc

Ask on call not email

[willow grove]

on call?

okay bet yeah ill try to phrase it as politely as possible

[willow grove]

and if they ask for the reason why?

[lavish hawk]

Lie

😂

say a soft lie tho so if they say no u can still do summer

Just phrase it in a way that they don’t need reason for

[willow grove]

lmfao ok bet yeah i think ill try ts

thanks bro

[elfin root]

if it dont delay grad then do

if it does then not worth imo

[raw perch]

intls cant delay grad

[willow grove]

nah i just need one more sem to grad

so wont be delaying anything

[elfin root]

ye do it then

js name can go far and u can larp it as swe

[willow grove]

you mean straight up have JS swe on my resume 💀

[elfin root]

yeah lol

[willow grove]

lmfao that's lowk scary to do

[elfin root]

idt its that crazy to go js to suno regardless

[willow grove]

but tbf just having js is enough despite the tdoe

[elfin root]

yeah that too

[willow grove]

if my plan was to just re recruit for ng and not care about RO

then?

[elfin root]

def js

suno has very little to none res value for big tech

[willow grove]

not tryna go big tech tbh

[elfin root]

then?

[willow grove]

ai labs

[elfin root]

still js

[willow grove]

or other unicorns

[elfin root]

u cant beat js name

but ft suno def clears js tdoe imo

[willow grove]

yeah fair enough

gotta try adn do both to get everything lol

js not gonna let me push

i gotta try w suno

[elfin root]

yeah startups are usually p lenient

[willow grove]

yeah im banking on that, but lowk im asking them with the internship starting in like 2 months lol

so it's not a whole lot of time for them to figure out another candidate

[elfin root]

ngl if they not pushing and u want max res value as a last minute ditch effort u can say i have js summer offer and they might let u push then

demon signal

[willow grove]

i mean i feel like that also increases chances of them rescinding on the spot lmao

then im fucked

i really dont want js tdoe to be my last internship

[elfin root]

nah regardless if u dont want ro go js

[willow grove]

i do want ro, but im still gonna re recruit

i need an ro cuz intl, for safety net and whatnot

[elfin root]

ts lowk tough suno might get u 0 ng procs 😂

[willow grove]

lmao what fr?

is ng that cooked 💀

[elfin root]

nobody knows wtf suno is

too many startups to keep track off and they not that main stream compared to the others

other startups will know

idk bout ai labs and top tech

[willow grove]

yeah fair enough but i think i value RO more than ability to re recruit

so

[elfin root]

yeah thats fair

[willow grove]

suno might still be better

[elfin root]

yeah def suno ft clears

[willow grove]

yep yep

thanks

[elfin root]

outta curiosity what was tdoe proc

[willow grove]

dm

[warm mantle]

do u have other names on the resume

if ur like prev amazon or something it’ll be fine

[willow grove]

no significant other prevs lmao

so ts summer/fall my last shots

[warm mantle]

damn crazy come up

[willow grove]

.

[lost hornet]

bro is shallow

[burnt fable]

@willow grove what happened to db?

[nimble ice]

someone works at suno 🤣 🤣

[desert meadow]

this has to be troll lol, role/experience matching what you want to do >>>> name brand (to a certain extent but most def the case in this comparison)

[desert meadow]

do you know what TDOE do? I'm in proc for tdoe rn and incoming swe (doing ml work) @ google, I'd never take tdoe over that imo

yeah, was more of a rhetorical question to why it's not worth taking over your current MLE offer lol

[willow grove]

rejected post final

bro are you really telling me youd pick js tdoe over that 💀

[solemn peak]

mf is trolling

[willow grove]

blah