do u have prev FAANG?
#AI startup series C (SF/remote) vs Doordash (Toronto)
peak echo
torn karma
if u really like the work you'll do at abacus and you believe in the company, it could be worth taking
that being said the brand name of ddash will ofc be much better for non-ai startup recruiting
shadow atlas
that being said the brand name of ddash will ofc be much better for non-ai start...
hmm thats my main concern.. is it that much of a resume blow to take abacus instead of doordash? i think i wanna do startups for now and eventually have the option to go back to big tech
torn karma
hmm thats my main concern.. is it that much of a resume blow to take abacus inst...
idk anything ab abacus but most big tech recruiters are only gonna know like the few big names in the ai space
that being said if u wanna continue down the ai startup route abacus would most likely be better
shadow atlas
hmm fair enough
shadow atlas
AI startup series C (SF/remote) vs Doordash (Toronto)
hmm ngl i don't rlly see the appeal of doordash - feel like it's not really gonna differentiate me from any other swe from waterloo.. also i don't care too much about stability and I want high ownership
im leaning heavily towards abacus but someone pls tell me if im making the wrong read
peak echo
if u have a prev strong name, you can take the risk
from what i've heard
I'd personally do DoorDash because I don't think Tesla is strong enough
it makes you more credible and shows that you can survive big tech
shadow atlas
oh fr? would u say doordash > tesla in prestige
shadow atlas
i always thought tesla was similar to zon in prestige
thought doordash was around the same
peak echo
ye but apparently doordash beats zon
shadow atlas
hmm interesting
i also think abacus has more cutting edge/interesting work
seems like marketplace is just generic back end swe
shadow atlas
well i would say im tryna work for startups in the near future
peak echo
cuz from my understanding, it's pretty easy to lose a job and not be able to get one afterwards
peak echo
and furthermore, recent nvidia investment pullback from openAI and anthropic
might indicate the start of the end
and abacus will most likely lose funding
peak echo
what im thinking is that it's a good idea to take a risk in the future
but idk how many years of experience u have in big tech
and this might be one of the worst times to join an AI startup
shadow atlas
i only have 8 months intern at tesla
peak echo
when the bubble is anticipated to pop soon
hm
i've heard from ppl here that intern big name is usually enough
can take a risk earlier in ur career
shadow atlas
when the bubble is anticipated to pop soon
do you think this is guaranteed to be the case? i feel like we're gonna be more and more reliant on AI
peak echo
ye for sure
shadow atlas
and having Ai engineering skills is more valuable than generic backend imo
peak echo
from my understanding
the dot com bubble
a lot of the .com websites and startups went under
so a lot of big players barely survived
and a lot of the smaller competitors
ended up dying
shadow atlas
hm fair points
ive interviewed at many yc companies but they seem not flustered by this
so i'm not too sure honestly i'll have to do more research
shadow atlas
i actually wasn't aware of that lol
shit lol what if i do a month at abacus then see first
cause dd start date is in april
but i'd have to renege/quit
peak echo
just reject
if u do that, it tarnishes reputation
it'll spread between other startup founders
shadow atlas
yo are yall sure doordash > tesla, amazon??
im getting mixed opinions
idk if that's objectively the case is it?
also interviewing with apple rn but still 2nd round
not too interested in what they're doing
half hazel
@wanton frigate @twilit swan @grizzled drum
shadow atlas
my goat
faint geyser
doordash >> tesla
agree with ai startup being fine rn but disagree with abacus ai
looks mid as hell
twilit swan
@half hazel what’s ur take
wanton frigate
yea unless tesla self driving
or their other ai robot shit i forget what thats called
optimus
twilit swan
“By far” tho?
what’s the hype behind dd im not tapped in
I thought Tesla was bare lit I’m investor
wanton frigate
idk abt by far prob like difference between robinhood and dropbox
acc nah
way less than that
marginal difference
but dd better imo
half hazel
<@263903363740073984> what’s ur take
idk this why i summoned the avengers
wanton frigate
💀
half hazel
@odd junco
honestly i heard doordash has really bad wlb tho
like team management rlly bad
poor upper management idk
twilit swan
but yall saying dd better excluding the lit stuff about tesla but how we jus excluding aspects of a business
That’s like saying blackberry > uber excluding the transportation part
shadow atlas
bro what yall see in doordash ts sounds boring as shit if im being fr 🤣
shadow atlas
10-3 is crazy maybe im glazing abacus
but honestly work is sick and comp is good for canada
shadow atlas
like im just tryna prioritize learning rn
twilit swan
@half hazel u might have to hop abacus bro for the Toronto dream
shadow atlas
im saying
half hazel
<@263903363740073984> u might have to hop abacus bro for the Toronto dream
lowkey what even pays better than that
other than like stripe
shadow atlas
stackadapt?
half hazel
fr?
shadow atlas
stackadapt pays bare
shadow atlas
i thought it was like 200k
twilit swan
@umbral finch stack adapt mentioned your time has come
half hazel
i thought it was like 200k
o damn
half hazel
<@654457187644473366> stack adapt mentioned your time has come
lmaoo
at the end of the day half of the people in cscd will just look at doordash and tell you to go there cuz they think it has more prestige
just cause of the name
shadow atlas
yea fair enough
spice dock
also interviewing with apple rn but still 2nd round
what team
twilit swan
@shadow atlas I think u rlly want abacus so jus run it
half hazel
@twilit swan @wanton frigate @grizzled drum got good advice
shadow atlas
<@518444594619219969> I think u rlly want abacus so jus run it
mandem telling me im selling styl
twilit swan
bro they’re not the ones living ur life
live for urself
no bad decisions
more to life than this
shadow atlas
ur right
torn karma
bro what yall see in doordash ts sounds boring as shit if im being fr 🤣
if your mind is made up then take it
no point in asking others
twilit swan
torn karma
yo are yall sure doordash > tesla, amazon??
ap tesla >> ddash > amazon >> non-ap tesla
torn karma
if ur not on ap then never 😂
shadow atlas
ap tesla >> ddash > amazon >> non-ap tesla
do recruiters know this
torn karma
do recruiters know this
yes
half hazel
bro what yall see in doordash ts sounds boring as shit if im being fr 🤣
naw but just wait for like @wanton frigate or @grizzled drum to give some input
doordash is still worth considering
half hazel
hmm thats my main concern.. is it that much of a resume blow to take abacus inst...
and r u sure u wanna stay in startups like how long would u wanna do that
once ur in big tech it’s easy to stay in big tech
shadow atlas
bro i feel like the main appeal for startups is u learn way more and own more as well
so i'd say couple years
but not completely set yet
half hazel
fair
twilit swan
naw but just wait for like <@298163402155753472> or <@422072307146686464> to giv...
The latch glaze is crazy he literally just said DD
half hazel
The latch glaze is crazy he literally just said DD
☠️
twilit swan
and r u sure u wanna stay in startups like how long would u wanna do that
buddy r u sure u wanna stay in Toronto
we got the blind leading the blind over here
torn karma
buddy r u sure u wanna stay in Toronto
#1 prio should be fade canada imo but that's subjective
wanton frigate
yea and to fade canada u take dd not abacus
twilit swan
#1 prio should be fade canada imo but that's subjective
I do be returning to Canada to get my fades can’t switch up on my barber
shadow atlas
i'm justin's barber btw
half hazel
The latch glaze is crazy he literally just said DD
latch knows all
twilit swan
i'm justin's barber btw
Lmaooo no way
wanton frigate
no way
half hazel
lmaooo
wanton frigate
justin NEEDS him to stay in toronto 😭
half hazel
☠️
wanton frigate
bias ahh mf
twilit swan
latch knows all
how does it taste
shadow atlas
bro abacus lowes tn they gonna get me right
twilit swan
latch gotta be top2 most glazed person since 2018 bruh
shadow atlas
hoolyy 11-3
twilit swan
@shadow atlas I’m also taking DD but we is not you, gotta make the call urself
half hazel
also with doordash u get to be in person in the office tho
so lowkey that’s a major factor to consider
twilit swan
everyone gon take based on their priorities, and nobody in this chat got the same priorities as u
If my priority was learning I’m taking abacus
that’s just not many ppl priority
wanton frigate
buddy theres 1 right answer
twilit swan
there is never 1 right answer
half hazel
i feel like i would lean more to doordash too
twilit swan
latch bro everyone voted rh > stripe for summer yet u took stripe
There’s never 1 right answer
twilit swan
I’m taking dd
wanton frigate
buddy they did not realize stripe can give us ft
wanton frigate
the moment i said u can all mans said yea take stripe
i rate that
but i think dd the move for overall career growth imo
half hazel
buddy they did not realize stripe can give us ft
o what why
half hazel
but i think dd the move for overall career growth imo
i lowkey agree
half hazel
why is there no poll anymore bruh
wanton frigate
they jus vote lmaoo
twilit swan
I think there are no wrong decisions, but I’m taking dd
half hazel
cscd but only GMIs
twilit swan
If Jlau go to u then it’s def <= $15 a cut
half hazel
pull up to my crib in etobicoke imma get yall right
👀
half hazel
If Jlau go to u then it’s def <= $15 a cut
bruhhhhh
shadow atlas
If Jlau go to u then it’s def <= $15 a cut
bro trust these waterloo barbers r taxing heavy
jz cuts out here charging 40 or sum
shit not worth that much
twilit swan
this guy Jlau told me to e-transfer $2 for Minecraft server
paper wraith
wtf is abacus ai what do they even do
twilit swan
bro is not spending over 20$ on a haircut im certain
paper wraith
seems like claude wrapper
shadow atlas
the niche is enterprises
paper wraith
hmm okay seems buns icl
half hazel
this guy Jlau told me to e-transfer $2 for Minecraft server
bro send
half hazel
it's like an aggregator and has all the models
thing is like even if u try re recruiting or job hopping hella people r gonna have the same mindset as supzon
like most recruiters jus think like that
so also have to keep that into consideration
half hazel
yea ur right man these ppl in the server just tryna prestige max
yea
most people just prestige max
imo i would still go doordash if i were in your shoes
shadow atlas
my boy was saying i might be able to switch to us location
i'll ask recruiter tmr
if i can then it's a no brainer
half hazel
my boy was saying i might be able to switch to us location
for doordash or abucus
shadow atlas
doordash
torn karma
^^
shadow atlas
hollow saffron
also @shadow atlas read the Stripe vs Perplexity thread
ppl are saying AI startup mogs now
paper wraith
send
shadow atlas
honestly perplexity or harvey would mog
abacus not there yet
mercor is up there too ngl
shell osprey
also <@518444594619219969> read the Stripe vs Perplexity thread
Nah I changed my mind. It doesn’t mog
Atleast at stripe if u 996 u can prob make more off performance grants + promos. These startup grinds are kinda bs unless it’s a really really top startup w/ real potential for liquidity
In terms of learning everyone and their mother starting to use ai so idk about how much ai skills you’d lose. Only benefit is shipping faster and working on newer stuff ig
half hazel
Atleast at stripe if u 996 u can prob make more off performance grants + promos....
agreed
ocean portal
i always thought tesla was similar to zon in prestige
depends on the org no? I thought autopilot was always the super prestigious one compared to the rest
shadow atlas
these are the results on blind btw ^^
very polarizing advice everywhere
that being said im taking doordash most likely lol
half hazel
these are the results on blind btw ^^
doordash is known for having bad wlb
i asked ouckah during hack the north and he worked there as well and said the same thing even tho he was just intern
apparently it has some pretty brutal on call hours and stuff
but if ur fine with that then just take doordash
shadow atlas
doordash is known for having bad wlb
yo i heard it's a gamble but ur right it could be bad
my friend whos an e3 said he and all his coworkers are enjoying it
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shadow atlas
aimgoy
feral patrol
what was timeline for doordash
shadow atlas
what was timeline for doordash
applied jan, did onsite early feb, got waitlisted, got offer last week
feral patrol
How long a wait after phone screen?
shadow atlas
How long a wait after phone screen?
i don't think i did a phone screen