Google(Mountain View) vs Robinhood(MPK or NYC)

[empty pilot]

Gg pay better than rh dor ng?

[elfin skiff]

i think its a little more. rh ng recurring is 200. from what ik google ng recurring is like around 210(assuming no nego)

[astral tinsel]

Google

[flat slate]

I think geo is cool, i would pick google

[elfin skiff]

reasoning?

[elfin skiff]

is geo a good org at google?

[flat slate]

idk I just like maps

[cerulean schooner]

Google for RO

Geo is also sick

[astral tinsel]

i dont know enough abt robinhood but i think the team geo is good at google ye

[cerulean schooner]

RH is good but RO kinda cooked

[astral tinsel]

ud learn a lot at google and RO hinges on whether or not ur manager likes u and its pretty much free if u dont mess that up

[elfin skiff]

thats fair but given my priority is growth/learning and tc, would u still say google is the better choice here?

[elfin skiff]

last year it was 70-80%. before that it was pretty bad but im assuming thats mainly bc the company was stagnant

[icy ridge]

Obviously google tf

Geo is an A tier team as well

[elfin skiff]

faang

[cerulean schooner]

Robinhoods p good tho

[cerulean schooner]

I think take google bro

[astral tinsel]

looking at ur priorities, google gives u more TC, RO, and prestige and wlb

[cerulean schooner]

Unless ur interested in fintech

[icy ridge]

Yeah Robinhood is good as well but Google mogs.

[cerulean schooner]

^

[elfin skiff]

my main thing is, idrc abt res val as much since i was able to get a decent amt of interviews this cycle. thats why my priority is growth and learning

[cerulean schooner]

I think it comes down to fintech interest

[astral tinsel]

i cant comment on growth/learning on RH but google mogs the next 4 things

in ur list

[elfin skiff]

how does google tc scale?

[cerulean schooner]

I feel like you’ll learn quite a bit at either regardless for an internship tho

And even for FT

[elfin skiff]

i like fintech, but idk i like it enough to fade google

[cerulean schooner]

Take google then

Fs

[astral tinsel]

its less than meta but its equal/better compared to other faangs

[cerulean schooner]

U have a good team too

If it wasGCP

[astral tinsel]

id say it scales ok

[cerulean schooner]

or some shit

Then it’s diff

[elfin skiff]

okay bet thats good to hear

[elfin skiff]

ah i see

i will try, but i would be happy with rh or google ft if i dont get anything else or get lazy and dont recruit

[cerulean schooner]

NG recruiting is lowkey brutal

[elfin skiff]

yea exactly

[cerulean schooner]

From what I heard

[astral tinsel]

yeah take google im ngl

[cerulean schooner]

More companies are converting tho

Instead of NG

[elfin skiff]

fair, thats lowkey why im not rly concerned abt res val. if i was then this would be google no brainer

[cerulean schooner]

Yeah but why put yourself in that situation

[flat slate]

Yuh I mean, after a few years at Google you can recruit for swe II or smth less competition it seems like just get the exp and google on ur resume for now

[elfin skiff]

yea that is fair

[cerulean schooner]

Congrats tho those offers r fire man

[elfin skiff]

how come?

[astral tinsel]

facts

[elfin skiff]

yea i agree. been told google res val kinda crazy

[flat slate]

Google goat what do you mean

[elfin skiff]

appreciate it🙏

[astral tinsel]

crystallize never trolls

[flat slate]

Personally Google and after a few years try to jump ship to smth more interesting honestly

[icy ridge]

Im not trolling I think Google better here for your priorities...

[astral tinsel]

how is core as a PA at google

[icy ridge]

For the other person Uber vs Google tbh I think Uber was better for them.

Its all person to person

[astral tinsel]

uber mogs google depending on team imo

[elfin skiff]

but isnt my priority growth/learning?

also how does bro have 2.5 calls😭 ?

[astral tinsel]

wtf

[flat slate]

Yuh but like, resume value too and you can still learn at Google I would just assume it would be harder and jump ship to a better company to learn more

[icy ridge]

Yeah, I think Google great for growth/learning. Maybe robinhood better in this aspect but with other factors considered i think google comes on top.

[icy ridge]

I got communication today from recruiter that i got interest from YT team. but i pre-turned it down since i said i only want A+ tier teams

[flat slate]

My man is truly the Google goat

[elfin skiff]

yea fair enough

[elfin skiff]

ah i see. what exactly is an A+ team?

GDM?

[astral tinsel]

is talent density great at RH or google

[cerulean schooner]

Both

[flat slate]

He has a list that he apparently found from people who left Google

[astral tinsel]

theres many perspectives to look at learning/growth

[icy ridge]

talked with numerous people at quants and top AI labs for google team ranking and we arrived at this list. This can help you find out how good yourprofile is, as you can check how high-quality the teams you're getting are.

⭐

S-TIER (Top)

DeepMind / Gemini / Google Research

⸻

🅰️

A-TIER

Android

Search

Maps / Geo

⸻

🅱️

B-TIER

Chrome / ChromeOS

Pixel Hardware & Software

Ads (Core Ads & ML)

⸻

🅲 C-TIER

Google Assistant (Legacy)

Workspace (Gmail, Docs, Drive)

Nest / Smart Home

⸻

🅳 D-TIER

Fitbit / WearOS

Google Pay / Wallet

Shopping / Merchant Center

⸻

🅴 E-TIER (Bottom)

GCP (Google Cloud Platform)

YouTube (All of YouTube Org)

[elfin skiff]

i do like fintech, esp robinhood. but again idk if that makes it worh passing up google

[astral tinsel]

GCP is E tier?

holy shit

[cerulean schooner]

How is android A

Wtf

[flat slate]

Wouldn’t read too much from the list tbh

[elfin skiff]

oh this shit

zon

[flat slate]

It’s like you can always jump ship imo

[elfin skiff]

yea true

[astral tinsel]

at google things are prob more structured and u would learn best practices right

is this a valid take

[flat slate]

Recruit new grad keep Google as a backup you know

If you really don’t like the team

And want fintech

[elfin skiff]

i would assume so

but prev rh interns told me they learned hella

and worked on super cool projects

[flat slate]

Ehhh they have everything too structured they handhold you a lot of the time

[icy ridge]

Well ideally you'd land RH summer Google fall

[astral tinsel]

saw ts on reddit but apparently its better to have ur porject be easier so u can perform well and get the RO than have it be very cool and complex and then u struggle to deliver

[flat slate]

That’s like every company intern projects

[elfin skiff]

oh i see

[elfin skiff]

yea i asked abt fall. rec is waiting to hear back from host

[flat slate]

If ur manager shits out a badly scoped project and ur mentor doesn’t fight to reduce it

I mean ur pretty much cooked

[astral tinsel]

tbh take easy ahh google team

[elfin skiff]

ig for reference, my google proj was eh. but org is good apparently and manager is kinda cracked

[flat slate]

I mean u seen the zon slack right? People were always complaining about shit projects

[astral tinsel]

cracked manager means u get to learn a lot no

[elfin skiff]

not too worried abt proj since its only for internship

[astral tinsel]

yeah

[elfin skiff]

oh yea lol

[flat slate]

No if it was just badly scoped I would be worried

[elfin skiff]

not badly scoped, just not like super interesting

[flat slate]

Would agree with this

[flat slate]

Either way it’s safe for new grad recruiting

Last thing you want is to be unemployed

[astral tinsel]

D team at google so what, would u rather be the guy that gets an RO or the one that doesnt

yeah

take any job

[elfin skiff]

yea thats true

[astral tinsel]

like if ur manager is like staff before 35 bro ur locked

[elfin skiff]

idt team is bad. intern proj is kinda mid, thats all

[flat slate]

That’s chill I feel if you get return you have move pretty easily to diff teams at Google

[elfin skiff]

doesnt say what level he is on linkedin

but he has publications at top conferences

and is iit

[astral tinsel]

yea br ur in

[elfin skiff]

cracked universities in india

[cerulean schooner]

Green

😂

[flat slate]

Either way take Google

[elfin skiff]

like prob harvard, mit, stanford level

[astral tinsel]

cracked manager at google, with publications

[cerulean schooner]

It’s a lower acceptance rate than all of these

[astral tinsel]

he gon get ur ahh into gdm

[elfin skiff]

research is from his time in usa

[elfin skiff]

yea way lower

india is a bit different. they have tiers

and iit is like top of tier 1

and there is still some research esp if ur from tier 1 uni

[flat slate]

Yuh with this you probably learn more at Robinhood but it isn’t worth risky unemployment

[icy ridge]

iiMid

[elfin skiff]

fair

[fallow sparrow]

True for a ton of companies

[elfin skiff]

does geo fall under that 90%😭

[flat slate]

Maps are cool

[elfin skiff]

well geo doesnt necessarily mean maps right?

[flat slate]

geography is cool

[astral tinsel]

ur life infinitely improves once u get google

ur parents respect u

ur higher value in the dating market

and u dont have to cook no more

[flat slate]

I don’t think anybody cares

outside of discord cs career devs

[astral tinsel]

why isnt this important thing to consider

[flat slate]

Small subset of autistic people

[astral tinsel]

im speaking facts

[elfin skiff]

yea fair enough

[elfin skiff]

this is the best part

[flat slate]

Yuh that’s true doesn’t robohibhoood do that ?

[chilly urchin]

did u put a poll up

or not

[astral tinsel]

highly doubt that

[elfin skiff]

yea they do give food. pretty sure 3 meals

[elfin skiff]

nah

any point in putting?

[astral tinsel]

niche companies bro, so niche no one knows what they are

[flat slate]

But like as an intern you probably be eating out anyways to connect with other interns so I don’t think benefits matter that much

[elfin skiff]

oh lol. thank you😭

[astral tinsel]

google to niche is the correct method

[elfin skiff]

nah brev, free food is the best😭

[flat slate]

That isn’t niche in sf

[elfin skiff]

fuck the networking. im taking free food

[astral tinsel]

isnt google top 1%

of engineers

[elfin skiff]

yea thats lowkey why i didnt put poll. but it doesnt hurt

[astral tinsel]

how can this be true

[flat slate]

In sf not really

[astral tinsel]

ngl yeah if given the opportunity to work at like a frontier ai lab in sf id take that over google

[flat slate]

You are comparing it to the us

[astral tinsel]

but how many ppl work there

[flat slate]

Also yuh

Not 1% of engineers

[astral tinsel]

stats, 0.6% of ppl ever make it to google

[flat slate]

A lot of people leave to better more niche companies

[flat slate]

It’s like 10k are qualified 800k apply and Google is a well known name

of course ts will go down

Acceptance rate will go down

That stat doesn’t mean much

[astral tinsel]

ur right im just coping

if only i didnt fail oai

[flat slate]

Unlucky

[flat slate]

This is fair but still benefits doesn’t really matter really looking at RO rate imo and resume value

[elfin skiff]

yea i was playing. even if u ignore free food, google benefits is way better

[flat slate]

You learn stuff either way if you just lwk dig around enough

[astral tinsel]

google is here to stay imo

im glazing hard but

[rocky drift]

as a senior you can legit go on a consecutive 9 weeks abroad every year with 4-week wfa & 25 day pto

[flat slate]

the coaster company

[astral tinsel]

if ur up for the challenge and u finish ur balls easy google intern project ahead of time

u can ask to add components into it if it makes sense

and u can learn more

learning is prob the most flexible thing out of all the things u mentioned @elfin skiff so u should actually consider it loewr importance relative to the other things

[rocky drift]

i have no idea how easy/difficult my intern project will be

it seems like one of the things google made complex for no reason

because they love protobufs so much

[flat slate]

Yuh remember back to zon slack where people were also doing extra stuff after finishing the project

Robinhood would do the same but

Yuh if you dig around and try you lwk learn the same for both companies

[elfin skiff]

yea i guess this is true

my point is that res val isnt rly main concern

bc i was able to get a lot of proc with just zon

and networking

[flat slate]

Okay yuh resume value is a log scale imo

Zon is good enough for almost every big tech company

My friend got citadel with zon

[flat slate]

After breaking some certain point it just tapers off

Then yuh it isn’t risking unemployment because you didn’t get an RO

Even if you do get good proc new grad having a safety net is always good

[elfin skiff]

yea exactly

[elfin skiff]

yea true

[tawny imp]

Did google push back to fall? Otherwise I’d say go Google, Maps team is rlly good and Robinhood RO is not very high %.

[elfin skiff]

Waiting to hear back from host abt fall. Rec said I should hear back today

Robinhood RO % was good last year. It was in the 70-80% range. It was bad in the past bc company was stagnant

[astral tinsel]

hoping u get google fall

its not common but def happens

[elfin skiff]

Yea fall would be dope

[empty pilot]

Fall would be goat

[elfin skiff]

im not entirely sure what my team does, so can't really speak on that

ive heard geo is bit of older org but people r saying its rly good, so idk

bet

also manager approved fall🙏

appreciate yalls help

[mild flower]

Ibm

[chilly urchin]

no way

lmfao

[astral tinsel]

congrats!!

[flat slate]

I think Robinhood >= Amazon in terms of work

Amazon = Google in terms of work you will be doing if Google not like deepmind

[elfin skiff]

like in in terms of interesting work?

[flat slate]

yes

you are lwk doing the same crud stuff at FAANG I feel there will be outliers

[elfin skiff]

oh okay

yea in terms of cool work, def seems like rh is better for that

[flat slate]

idk imo

[vestal coral]

you are my hero