prestige: OAI
RO: DB
Work: DB most likely
Location: Idk which you prefer tho i think most would say OAI
WLB: DB probably tho this doesnt mean much
#_
somber condor
fierce lichen
For prestige OpenAI, idk how openai RO is but great resume boost.
coarse gazelle
op doesn't care ab stability
coarse gazelle
if u get oai then u can go anywhere else
this is overrated tbh u can go anywhere from all faang+
fiery grotto
where does it stand for resume value
coarse gazelle
or all the top faang+ at least
also cow is right here they pay the same as stripe/google/blox/db, give u trash work, and work u twice as hard
fierce lichen
this is overrated tbh u can go anywhere from all faang+
This is true but the probability ur resume gets picked up by other company is better
fiery grotto
so cracked
fierce lichen
Love you cow
coarse gazelle
but since OP's top priority is "prestige" and they dont care ab stability ig oai is the play here
coarse gazelle
i mean oai is a household name
fierce lichen
They probably just gonna get bailed out by another company
fiery grotto
its all g
is msft gonna bail em out
tbh they gotta step it up as well
chatgpt fell off
its losing user
claude better for code tasks
somber condor
claude is much better for coding imo yeah but gpt has huge user base because most are non tech people just trynna talk to gpt for every day things like making food
or planning trips or someting
fiery grotto
ye facts
i guess i still use gpt for general tasks but thats out of habit
i can totally use gemini as well
fierce lichen
Ridebnb
fiery grotto
crashing out cuz ur ai husband is gone
native raft
OpenAI
Huge prestige gap
RO is > 75
If it does not delay grad yes
They let me
Asked former interns
fiery grotto
just push yeah
school is so useless
id do like 4 offseasons if i could
just spam classes and allocate more time
fierce lichen
just push yeah
go to school and get the degree school is useless but degree is useful
fierce lichen
my ee prof told me lwk just take easy cs classes so you get good gpa and just learn cs by yourself
native raft
school is so useless
School is useful LOL
You might more people in school than anywhere you ever will
fierce lichen
my ee prof told me lwk just take easy cs classes so you get good gpa and just le...
he was an intern at citsec
native raft
Why is meeting more people ever bad?
fiery grotto
i can meet 10 ppl from my college or i can meet a guy thats 10+ yrs older than me and can give me career advice
which is more helpful, its hard to say
fierce lichen
lwk at internship more people aligned with ur goals
native raft
Depends what you prioritize honestly
vale kiln
take whichever but don’t push to fall, not gonna be in college again you’ll regret missing college in 5 years
coarse gazelle
take whichever but don’t push to fall, not gonna be in college again you’ll regr...
why would u regret missing college to intern at oai 💀
vale kiln
U alr have databricks prestige difference isn’t that big
Life isn’t just about internships bro 😹😹😹
coarse gazelle
100% push if they let u
coarse gazelle
U alr have databricks prestige difference isn’t that big
it's fairly significant, oai is top 3 in tech fs
lost ocean
it's fairly significant, oai is top 3 in tech fs
but the ai bubble will burst and they're in debt !!!!!!!!!!!!
coarse gazelle
Life isn’t just about internships bro 😹😹😹
what are u doing in school that's more significant than db + oai
lost ocean
ur intern life can mimic alot of the good things that come out of college as well
helps that ur getting an extra buck
sure ur working a fair bit harder but thats the only tradeoff
vale kiln
what are u doing in school that's more significant than db + oai
friends experiences it’s an entirely different environment bruzz
an environment u won’t get again
lean quail
take whichever but don’t push to fall, not gonna be in college again you’ll regr...
Moot point you can meet ppl at ur internship
lost ocean
full sendy at the next frat party
vale kiln
Moot point you can meet ppl at ur internship
fair point but i don’t think the social environment is similar at all
each to their own ig
lost ocean
but there isnt rlly much of a delta b/t what ud have at ur internship and school (not to mention that, in this case, this guy will be in an area with ppl around his age w/ the same interests)
and if there is its not like hes dropping out, he'll be back in school a few months later
vale kiln
how i see it is you will not get to be around your college friends and that community for a consistent period of time ever again, giving up that time only makes sense in extremes which I don’t think this case is
agree to disagree tho I think ur take is valid depending on what u value
fierce lichen
This is false case: full list - "Akuna Capital, LLC"
"Amazon.com, Inc"
"Apple, Inc."
"Bloomberg"
"Bridgewater Associates"
"Capital One"
"Cubist Systematic Strategies"
"D.E. Shaw"
"Databricks Inc."
"DRW Holdings"
"Five Rings Capital, LLC"
"Google"
"Headlands Technologies, LLC"
"Hudson River Trading"
"IMC Group"
"Jane Street Group, LLC"
"Jump Trading, LLC"
"LinkedIn Corporation"
"Meta"
"Microsoft Corporation"
"MongoDB, Inc."
"Morgan Stanley"
"NVIDIA Corporation"
"Old Mission Capital"
"Optiver Trading US"
"Palantir Technologies, Inc."
"Point72 Asset Management, LP"
"Quantledge Capital"
"Radix Trading, LLC"
"Roblox,"
"Snowflake Computing"
"Squarepoint Capital"
"Startup"
"Stripe, Inc."
"Susquehanna International Group, LLP"
"Tesla Motors, Inc."
"Tower Research Capital, LLC"
"Two Sigma Investments"
"Uber USA, LLC"
"Virtu Financial, LLC"
"Other" according to Google goat
coarse gazelle
how i see it is you will not get to be around your college friends and that comm...
idk one is having fun for a short period of time, the other is setting up your entire life
if u alr have money then sure do wtv
this is the cit list lol
lone blade
this is the cit list lol
im guessing they hold quant > faang > others
stripe is probably up there tho
coarse gazelle
the exact same? that's kinda hard to believe
lone blade
"Deutsche Bank"?
fierce lichen
Airbnb ngmi can’t be
true crow
"Intel"
fierce lichen
I take this as official according to Google goat
fierce lichen
Real ones know this
fierce lichen
Nah Google goat had IMC
fierce lichen
Google goat says otherwise
lone blade
google >>> hrt?
fierce lichen
I only listen to Google goat
true crow
bloomberg > google >>> amazon > quant
fierce lichen
im sorry google goat
This is career suicide
fiery grotto
i wil always glaze google <3
verbal isle
This is false case: full list - "Akuna Capital, LLC"
"Amazon.com, Inc"
"Apple, I...
lmao this is a real list whether you guys want to believe it or not.
this has a lot of differences, and regardless if you ask GPT for a list of top tech/quant then its unsurprising that a good portion will be the same lmao
Airbnb ngmis salty theyre not included 
verbal isle
ur saying u would pick google > oai/anthropic?
I would probably take OAI/anthropic over google
better career growth especially in ML/AI space which is my priority
but i dont think i have the necessary pre-req just yet to land good roles at those
verbal isle
Real ones know this
for my priorities yes.
i mean this is equivalent to quant / top tech right
verbal isle
lmao this is a real list whether you guys want to believe it or not.
regardless the original list is real 🤷♂️
and airbnb isnt included
i think c1 in contention for top tech
every company on the list i think is pretty solid
either top tech or fintech etc.
ive seen a lot of people go from c1 to quite good companies
wdym
Ok... well thats the full list that they use
I never said anything like that 😭
im just saying objectively this is the list
its one example of a list that a quant firm uses
im sure other firms have their own list
do what you want with the list
you are the one who is coping by insisting its fake
just because airbnb isnt included != fake
.
true crow
i think c1 in contention for top tech
grats on C1
verbal isle
grats on C1
thanks well i did get a c1 offer last year but turned it down. probably wont be going there unless all my current offers bust lol
true crow
thanks well i did get a c1 offer last year but turned it down. probably wont be ...
u sold bro shoulda signed c1
verbal isle
u sold bro shoulda signed c1
I think i wouldve been fine if i had gone c1, was just a personal decision
i know a lot of people who got ML experience at c1
fierce lichen
u sold bro shoulda signed c1
I think in this economy c1 >>>>> Google more interesting work and according to my priorities better
verbal isle
lmao this is a real list whether you guys want to believe it or not.
pov the 'prestigious' airbnb isnt included
verbal isle
I think in this economy c1 >>>>> Google more interesting work and according to m...
if you get like an e tier Google team this isnt even that crazy a take
especially if its just for intern
for fulltime if you care about TC and career progression then google probably overtakes just because c1 slow in that regard
My issue with this entire discord is people have 0 ability to think outside their own priorities. They think every career or life decision is obvious because they're all TC/prestige guided and can't even fathom that people don't care about tier lists as much as they do.
fierce lichen
Man I told you wlb and you insisted it would be career suicide
verbal isle
because WLB is a crazy thing to prioritize right when you graduate college
same with TC
true crow
google janitor has better res value than c1
true crow
how is c1 in any regard better for career
verbal isle
Unless its a huge variation, optimizing for WLB/TC early career is a bad idea
true crow
google cafeteria worker has higher signal
verbal isle
its going to change so much in like a few years anyways
true crow
find a single recruiter who thinks c1 is even close
fierce lichen
because WLB is a crazy thing to prioritize right when you graduate college
My issue with this entire discord is people have 0 ability to think outside their own priorities. They think every career or life decision is obvious because they're all TC/prestige guided and can't even fathom that people don't care about tier lists as much as they do.
true crow
yeah type shit
verbal isle
how is c1 in any regard better for career
as it turns out, actual engineers care a lot about the work you do at companies. if you do cool ML infra work at c1 then yes that can be more valuable than frontend work or whatever at google
im not talking about the initial HR recruiters who just screen by company name
verbal isle
find a single recruiter who thinks c1 is even close
if you're optimizing for recruiters you're already down the wrong path.
plenty of people are lmao
past galleon
OP, why don't u push OAI to fall
fierce lichen
Only making 200k when all other majors are making 95k on the high end new grad it’s not unrealistic for wlb
past galleon
dbx and oai on Resume is near godlike resume
dammit OP so cfaang
i mean cracked
verbal isle
nobody here retiring by 35 lmao
maybe this openAI guy if openAI does well
nobody else
true crow
if you're optimizing for recruiters you're already down the wrong path.
bro for intern or even new grad do u think they gaf ab the work u did
u think new grad recruiting cares ab what work u did at c1?
verbal isle
bro for intern or even new grad do u think they gaf ab the work u did
... yes 😭
verbal isle
u think new grad recruiting cares ab what work u did at c1?
yes they absolutely do lmfao
past galleon
google and cow; stop debating
true crow
u pass the res screen via name
past galleon
verbal isle
and get the job
tons of companies have internal team match which depends a lot on previous work you've done...
true crow
bro if u think the work u did in ur 3 month internship
matters more than the company name
ur tripping
verbal isle
matters more than the company name
its a balance between the two
but thinking work is irrelevant is dumb af
true crow
intern work u did is <<<<<<< company name
for new grad
not saying later on
or even midlevel
verbal isle
past galleon
agree with Google here; the work you have kinda influence your res WHICH influence your ng team
ngl
verbal isle
agree with Google here; the work you have kinda influence your res WHICH influen...
yes this is what im saying. HR recruiters wont care but the people placing you on teams / engineering managers etc. absolutely care
past galleon
intern work u did is <<<<<<< company name
balance between the 2 tbf
verbal isle
balance between the 2 tbf
yep exactly
true crow
yep exactly
in any world do u think c1 good team intern is better than a shit team google intern
for new grad recruiting
past galleon
in any world do u think c1 good team intern is better than a shit team google in...
I knew a crud staff at Meta , tried hard to internal transfer to dist system but got flatout reject
so all life crud
true crow
I knew a crud staff at Meta , tried hard to internal transfer to dist system but...
staff
past galleon
true crow
were talking about intern
if u guys think a shit google team intern < a good c1 team intern
ur all wilding
verbal isle
if you do shit work at google then chances are you'll get placed at shit work in whatever company you go to next
past galleon
staff
but it influence you in a way, u gotta steer your wheel real hard if u want to jump to a senior/staff team when u're crud junior
true crow
if you do shit work at google then chances are you'll get placed at shit work in...
we're talking about intern right?
bro ppl usually do diff shit thru all their interns
all of mine were diff
past galleon
true crow
we're not talking about being a staff speciailzed in some shit
were talking about intern dawg
vast juniper
okay, but isn't work just complete rng
if you get dogshit work, how do you land on a good team
in the same company
verbal isle
we're talking about intern right?
yeah
true crow
most internships ur TM is random too
so ur saying
even if u land a top internship ur cooked for life and < c1 cuz u get unlucky
this is such a dumb argument
true crow
if u guys think any c1 team intern > google ur tripping
past galleon
most internships ur TM is random too
it's random if u believe it's random; im ain't debating
verbal isle
this is such a dumb argument
No, its just an argument where there's nuance involved. which you seem to not be able to understand
its a balance like we've said multiple times
there's no absolutes
true crow
any google team > c1 team for intern
past galleon
yes, balance
true crow
thats an absolute
verbal isle
any google team > c1 team for intern
95% of the time sure, there will always be exceptions
true crow
bro what exception
past galleon
bro what exception
frontend android google < ml inference system c1
verbal isle
yep
true crow
u think doing android at an internship holes u into mobile?
my friend did mobile at his last intern and is at IMC now
that is literally polar opposite
past galleon
verbal isle
Here's another example @true crow . put aside major tech companies, think about specialized startups. you think they care more about your frontend work at google or your ML ifnra work at c1 which aligns exactly with their work?
past galleon
my friend did mobile at his last intern and is at IMC now
what team at IMC ?
verbal isle
another person with 0 capability to understand nuance. i said for me and my priorities yes
no?
i just said everyone shouldnt optimize too much on WLB thats it
but any list i say is for me
true crow
what team at IMC ?
idfk hes incoming NG
past galleon
my friend did mobile at his last intern and is at IMC now
let me guess, ur friend intern as mobile at Meta and studies at ivy league
with 4.0 GPA + research (?)
true crow
let me guess, ur friend intern as mobile at Meta and studies at ivy league
no, unknown school and did mobile at a tier 2
fintech
past galleon
past galleon
no, unknown school and did mobile at a tier 2
also, there's different aspect of mobile
mobile can care about memory and speed too
true crow
also, there's different aspect of mobile
ok the whole point is
ur not holed in by ur internship work
u dont need low level or speed work for quant swe either
at new grad...
past galleon
ur not holed in by ur internship work
that's true , but I believe that's 50% of the fit
true crow
u just need to get interview, pass interview, pass culture fit during calls
fierce lichen
i just said everyone shouldnt optimize too much on WLB thats it
You implied that I would achieve nothing
past galleon
let's say u interview, and your interviewer ask. what did u do in your internship.
true crow
yeah u dont need a relatable or relevant internship project
most of the time ur interviewers arent even the same team
u place into
verbal isle
yeah u dont need a relatable or relevant internship project
if you have to talk about your bum ass internal tooling then you can easily get stack ranked out
compared to other candidates with better technical experience
its not just get past HR then pure leetcode bar
true crow
for NG at least the project discussion is 99% about ur technical knowledge and showing u actually know what ur talking ab
not if its relevant to their work
r u ng?
past galleon
true crow
im saying this as someone who just went thu (and a lot of friends too) the ng hiring
this year
verbal isle
for which companies
past galleon
im saying this as someone who just went thu (and a lot of friends too) the ng hi...
oh, what team did u end up with
verbal isle
amazon/meta/db/etc. wont care but theyll take anyone
true crow
they did t1 quant + elite startups
including decagon, harvey, sierra, etc.
i did one or two of those
verbal isle
ok and my guess is they all had interesting previos work
true crow
oh, what team did u end up with
idk like i said
i didnt even get my team yet
for the offer i signed
its not that deep lol
past galleon
well the thing is, I agree name matter but like there's balance between the 2
verbal isle
If they had terrible work then they prob wouldn't have landed all that
true crow
If they had terrible work then they prob wouldn't have landed all that <:KEKW:10...
mobile -> imc ft
mobile is pretty shit
verbal isle
mobile -> imc ft
IMC deadass takes anyone
i got IMC intern with barely relevant anything
not even planning on taking
true crow
the convo started with c1 good team
past galleon
mobile -> imc ft
another q is do they have referral
true crow
do u think c1 gets imc
true crow
another q is do they have referral
no
verbal isle
do u think c1 gets imc
absolutely
past galleon
i think c1 can get imc
past galleon
c1 even get old mission
true crow
so what ru talking about
then c1 can get any
besides startup
or t1 quant
but google can
past galleon
verbal isle
but google can
huh
somber condor
name matters more than work only at the beginning imo, then work matters more
true crow
name matters more than work only at the beginning imo, then work matters more
thats what i said
but they think c1 top team > google
verbal isle
c1 top team > google shit team yes
past galleon
cuz c1 is known
somber condor
have u ever seen a c1 -> t1 quant
i mean theres been many no prevs -> t1 quant
exceptions
past galleon
like i said , balance
verbal isle
i mean theres been many no prevs -> t1 quant
yeah
t1 quant aint all that lmao
jane street will interview a ton of people
same with HRT tbh
true crow
t1 quant aint all that lmao
so tf u tryna prove then 😭
verbal isle
100% theres multiple c1 -> jane street
fiery grotto
ngl c1 crackde
verbal isle
so that you have a higher chance to get interesting work at your new place
past galleon
just say c1 and google can get anything then
the point is if c1 and google can get anything, u should do what u like
verbal isle
and for specialized startups its better
past galleon
💀
verbal isle
the point is if c1 and google can get anything, u should do what u like
yeah exactly
fiery grotto
zon oa perf no response
true crow
bro asked what companies i got interviews with
verbal isle
verbal isle
and then said t1 quant is buns
I never said that
i just said c1 -> t1 is absolutely possible
most decent tech -> t1 is possible
true crow
t1 quant aint all that lmao
?
what u want me to do then
start my own 1B startup
😭
we were talking ab NG recruiting and ur saying t1 quant aint all that
sorry im not elon musk bro
fiery grotto
😭
verbal isle
any google team > c1 team for intern
im just saying this lacks a lot of nuance
verbal isle
and choosing c1 over google isnt that crazy
fiery grotto
and choosing c1 over google isnt that crazy
now ur actually ragebaiting
true crow
bro really asked me what interviews i got for NG
fiery grotto
💀
verbal isle
depending on what team u land ofc
true crow
and then flames t1 quant
past galleon
what u tryna prove
so here's the thing, let's say you got t1 quant ; then when placing your team, they will be like :
- c1 ml inference -> engine execution team
- google android fe -> fullstack swe imc
so what do u choose
verbal isle
so here's the thing, let's say you got t1 quant ; then when placing your team, t...
yeah exactly
past galleon
getting imc and tier 1 quant is GREAT
fiery grotto
💀
verbal isle
and then flames t1 quant
i never flamed it, im just saying c1 and google both easily get quant processes. t1 quant isnt some mythical thing that only ex-google land
true crow
bro idt theyll think ur a fucking ML specialist from ur 3 month c1 internship dawg
past galleon
💀
verbal isle
bro idt theyll think ur a fucking ML specialist from ur 3 month c1 internship da...
if theyre deciding between multiple candidates to place team then how tf do u think theyre deciding 💀
you think they just pick randomly
holy shit everyone here is so dumb
i cant
past galleon
bro idt theyll think ur a fucking ML specialist from ur 3 month c1 internship da...
smh, im just saying go with something u like if 2 company are similar or even if 1 even less
fiery grotto
the team matters but so does the company name bro
when the gap is too big liek c1 and google
idt it matters
past galleon
i don't think c1 and google gap are too big
fiery grotto
💀
true crow
💀
true crow
i don't think c1 and google gap are too big
grats on c1
verbal isle
5 people all get offers at jane street or citadel or whatever, how do you think they decide who gets the infra team vs frontend team vs execution. like seriously
somber condor
i agree with crystalize here
fiery grotto
i don't think c1 and google gap are too big
at least 2 tiers different bro
past galleon
verbal isle
you guys are actually so naive
somber condor
tho c1 and goog might be a bit too big of a gap i agree with his point
verbal isle
tho c1 and goog might be a bit too big of a gap i agree with his point
ok sure but im making a general argument that work and name both matter even for intern->ng
somber condor
ok sure but im making a general argument that work and name both matter even for...
yep agree totally
verbal isle
i also said for c1 vs google, 95% of the time google is better
somber condor
idk why people are disagreeing lol
verbal isle
idk why people are disagreeing lol
yeah no clue
somber condor
ok this isnt true breh
true crow
5 people all get offers at jane street or citadel or whatever, how do you think ...
dumbass point, the whole point was getting the interview
fiery grotto
slave at google > ml infra at c1
fiery grotto
all google team > c1 team cuz its google not cuz team
verbal isle
in my opinion any google will get better interviews than c21
its not just about getting the interview... HR people are oblivious
somber condor
also this server is heavily brainrotted against c1 but in actuality c1 gets u interviews and past screens and has general prestige to recruiters, same witih amazon
many top exits from c1
verbal isle
yep
fiery grotto
infosys ml infra vs google fronend bro
past galleon
also this server is heavily brainrotted against c1 but in actuality c1 gets u in...
this i agree
somber condor
same with amazon, memed("zonami" bla bla) but actually gets you things
verbal isle
same with amazon, memed("zonami" bla bla) but actually gets you things
yeah 100%
true crow
also this server is heavily brainrotted against c1 but in actuality c1 gets u in...
so u personally ur taking a top team at c1 > a shit google team for intern?
past galleon
so u personally ur taking a top team at c1 > a shit google team for intern?
this i agree too
somber condor
changing the design of google watch?
fierce lichen
also this server is heavily brainrotted against c1 but in actuality c1 gets u in...
Same with bnb
verbal isle
Same with bnb
verbal isle
google watch ui design engineer
verbal isle
point of internship is also to learn and get relevant experience guys lmao
its not only about the future exit
past galleon
bro
yea, it's swe
but all u do is fe
they will frame it software engineer
INTERN
verbal isle
fiery grotto
🥀
fierce lichen
point of internship is also to learn and get relevant experience guys lmao
I still don’t get the bnb hate just because you lwk glaze Google a whole ton
verbal isle
I still don’t get the bnb hate just because you lwk glaze Google a whole ton
i dont hate bnb
fiery grotto
but all u do is fe
just larp
verbal isle
well depends on team again
past galleon
🔥🔥🙏
true crow
whole point is
fiery grotto
to an extent u can talk more abt what ur team does beyond ur frontend intern project
or u can ask to incorporate ai into it
true crow
but google most likely does
fiery grotto
and then every company will want u
severe bane
c1 doesn't get u interviews anywhere
places worse than c1 can still get interviews practically everywhere 💀
true crow
places worse than c1 can still get interviews practically everywhere 💀
no shit u can bring up anecdotal evidence of anything
if u think 100 people with c1 are getting same results as 100 people with google
ur fucking braindead
fiery grotto
places worse than c1 can still get interviews practically everywhere 💀
i dont buy this
💀
yeah
severe bane
if u think 100 people with c1 are getting same results as 100 people with google
well ofc googles better im not saying its not
past galleon
oh hey @true crow , i know where to get Google on resume
search "Google for Developers" program
💀💀💀
fiery grotto
MLH meta larp >>>
verbal isle
anything is possible even frontend c1
true crow
anything is possible <:gladge:922955236212101161> even frontend c1
he prolly woulda got js without c1 lol
if u go to any t5 u can get free quant int
fiery grotto
i totally didnt do this
past galleon
if u go to any t5 u can get free quant int
u so cracked, got multiple quant interviews?
fiery grotto
anything is possible <:gladge:922955236212101161> even frontend c1
idt c1 helped for this ye
true crow
<:gladge:922955236212101161>
whats the point of this lol
fiery grotto
frontend, scripting
true crow
u can find anecdotal evidence of anything
true crow
see how many ex googlers work at anth vs ex c1 lol
since ur spending all that time searching on linkedin
verbal isle
see how many ex googlers work at anth vs ex c1 lol
im not arguing c1 > google id be the last person to say that...
remember for refernece id easily take google > quant
fiery grotto
💀
true crow
ok... no one said you're cooked if u take c1
we're saying ur cooked if u take c1 over any google
what
verbal isle
we're saying ur cooked if u take c1 over any google
this is just wrong unfortunately. there's always nuance to everything
fiery grotto
u will never regret taking google but u might regret taking c1
true crow
right bro so if something is 99% right imma say its a toss up bc theres nuance
braindead
somber condor
oai vs db thread indeed guys
verbal isle
right bro so if something is 99% right imma say its a toss up bc theres nuance
yes
nothing is objective
true crow
right bro oai vs c1 theres a 0.001% chance u get murked cuz ur in sf crime rates
so toss up guys
verbal isle
right bro so if something is 99% right imma say its a toss up bc theres nuance
google over c1 is 95%-99% right yeah
average CSCD user
somber condor
also G i think you're kinda misunderstanding, in this case we're already in the 1% lol
if u just said blind google or c1
then ofc google
verbal isle
also G i think you're kinda misunderstanding, in this case we're already in the ...
yeah exactly
somber condor
but we're in the 1% that it's like crap crap goog and amazing c1 team for example so now it's actually a discussion
somber condor
i agree with you that if it's just "c1 vs google" and someone goes c1 yeah id be like that's dumb
true crow
ngl guys i think this is a braindead way to waste a nice thursday afternoon
verbal isle
If I'm interested in ML work in the future, and i had the choice between frontend work at google or core, truly insane ML work at c1 then im taking c1.
true crow
let's hop off the internet
somber condor
i mean yeah sure i agree but like for sake of conversation the point isn't you should take c1 over google or whatever the point is that both name and work matters for ng recruiting which is why this entire convo is even happening
true crow
and enjoy some fresh air
verbal isle
past galleon
and enjoy some fresh air
thou i would take google at the end of the day over c1
fiery grotto
ngl guys i think this is a braindead way to waste a nice thursday afternoon
nah what else would u rather spend ur time doing
verbal isle
Yes its a hypothetical thats the point
vale kiln
We r talking about that case whether its happened or not isn’t relevant
past galleon
enjoy some fresh air
verbal isle
welcome to discussion
fiery grotto
enjoy some fresh air
i dont like the outside
past galleon
i dont like the outside
TOUCH GRASS
verbal isle
This whole thing is a hypothetical...
severe bane
fun to talk and think about?
past galleon
We r talking about that case whether its happened or not isn’t relevant
hello jason, why are u a different cat now
fiery grotto
TOUCH GRASS
hell naw wtf
verbal isle
its interesting to think about and talk about
vale kiln
This is literally a possible event u can’t tell me w a straight face no one has had this choice before
severe bane
forgot we always had to maximize shareholder value around here 🥀
vale kiln
hello jason, why are u a different cat now
:3
vale kiln
Trust me bro
past galleon
nah
fiery grotto
are mfs forgetting that if u do good in a google internship u can get an RO and go to a different team thats NOT frontend
ur not stuckign doign frontend if u do intern
verbal isle
i mean im sure career decisions have been made on topics like this before at a closer scale. e.g maybe not that drastic but im sure people have picked 'worse' companies for better work in the past
Company name isnt everything
fiery grotto
yeah exactly
verbal isle
are mfs forgetting that if u do good in a google internship u can get an RO and ...
sure but you'd have to go into team match. it isnt guaranteed compared to ur returning PA
fiery grotto
im sure c1 ml will help u get deepmind bro
verbal isle
nah i want deepmind
GDM/Gemini 
past galleon
google is too bad, can't return to Deepmind so i go c1 ; bye
fiery grotto
😭
fiery grotto
sure but you'd have to go into team match. it isnt guaranteed compared to ur ret...
shi id rather be in team match for google than re apply for intern / NG
where its almost impossible + more luck involved
verbal isle
🤷♂️ google team match, i can tell you 100% your previous work matters a TON for placement with teams
not having relevant experience makes it harder
this is like accepted knowledge
past galleon
where its almost impossible + more luck involved
tell google that if u don't give me deepmind, i will make microsoft ai better
verbal isle
hosts literally choose people based on their prior experience...
past galleon
💀
verbal isle
yeah sure if thats your priorities then it makes sense
verbal isle
For me my priority may be to do heavy ML work so id take that
verbal isle
r u incoming gg
im in TM right now. i matched to ads previouslt but turned it down since looking for more ML focused work
fiery grotto
🤷♂️ google team match, i can tell you 100% your previous work matters a TON fo...
it doesnt have to come from a job does it, if it does then how do ppl ever do team transitions
verbal isle
i mean this is assuming i didnt land those
fiery grotto
im sure theres more ways out than we think
verbal isle
it doesnt have to come from a job does it, if it does then how do ppl ever do te...
it doesnt have to but makes it a lot easier
past galleon
im in TM right now. i matched to ads previouslt but turned it down since looking...
why turn down, if u aren't getting matched don't u get rescind ?
severe bane
do you have other offer waiting to renege or smthn then?
verbal isle
yeah i have offers at IMC and stripe
fiery grotto
holy cracked
past galleon
verbal isle
but id take a good google team over both
past galleon
verbal isle
Nah
verbal isle
i only wanna do during summer
past galleon
my bumahh would take any team at google bro
i feel u
severe bane
real af
past galleon
past galleon
bro want to study
fiery grotto
sure
severe bane
OAI
verbal isle
id say openAI but im ML biased obviously
severe bane
db probably better wlb but like work at oai sounds fun af
true crow
db probably better wlb but like work at oai sounds fun af
opposite
and oai work is probably some forntend crud shit
verbal isle
i mean if its OAI frontend vs c1 inference...
severe bane
what are db hours then lol
verbal isle
true crow
its still insane res value so id still oai > db tho
verbal isle
past galleon
they just open fall recently
verbal isle
beg on ur knees bro
good boy
fiery grotto
<:gladge:922955236212101161> i mean if its OAI frontend vs c1 inference...
c1 inference all the way
true crow
c1 frontend all the way
verbal isle
c1 frontend all the way
No this is doomed
fiery grotto
💀
verbal isle
This is career ending if you have a better choice
fiery grotto
No this is doomed
yet theres ppl out there where thats their only offer
so should they just ropemaxx then
?
fiery grotto
wait so Databricks or OpenAI
oai ngl
i went to their sf office
this summer
it was hella nice
0 glaze
verbal isle
yet theres ppl out there where thats their only offer
well if no other choice obv still do it
verbal isle
also pls take imc
between IMC and stripe im not sure tbh
severe bane
when are they moving to ubers old office
verbal isle
ideally i just get google gemini
but otherwise id have to decide
i dont like either too much
verbal isle
fintech is fried icl
yeah i agree
ocean stag
this is just wrong unfortunately. there's always nuance to everything
250 vs 140k
verbal isle
qd? and dyk stripe team?
swe role yeah, dont want to dox too much more for either since ive already said a lot
past galleon
ideally yea
verbal isle
250 vs 140k
well i was saying for intern not FT
past galleon
dbx is glazed in this server
severe bane
fair
might dm bc im curious lol
verbal isle
but neither team looks to be primarily ML focused
severe bane
google gdm tbh
verbal isle
yeah thats what i was thinking
past galleon
rentech swe ; cuz they have the GIGANTIC and PRESTIGIOUS Medallion Fund
verbal isle
SWE might not even get to be part of it
past galleon
yea, that's what im saying
the fund is 50% value
wait , no, everyone in rentech can invest in that fund
severe bane
rip jim simons
past galleon
swe can too
verbal isle
oh wow
past galleon
u must be employee thou
Google Director might not as rich as Senior swe in Rentech
maybe
coarse gazelle
Google Director might not as rich as Senior swe in Rentech
they're def not lol
not even close
why does it go across like 5 threads 💀
crystalize is hijacking goat
past galleon
they're def not lol
ikr , Rentech has like 400-500 employees and the fund is 10 billions in $$$
💀💀💀
imagine
coarse gazelle
even entry level would outearn
coarse gazelle
prolly, but even standard new grad no competing is outearning by far just from medallion fund
past galleon
i got timeout
bc i mention only f
💀
anw, i was saying maybe ng swe only f employees might even earn less than rentech ng
verbal isle
nah i got pinged in every thread i replied in
lean quail
its plausible, ask ur recruiter
dire elk
bro is him
genuinely tough pick imo, even though most would definetly say OAI
maybe im just biased idk
both open doors to literally 99.99% opportunites out there, so i doubt you'll loose anything picking one over the other
pick based on what you are more interested in
nimble patio
can u push oai to fall
lean quail
hedge in what sense? ro rate?
Oai ro rate was decent last year pretty sure
Very similar to dbx, maybe a lil worse
coarse gazelle
Oai ro rate was decent last year pretty sure
it could change if fall which is the issue
lean quail
Its unlikely and thats a question for recruiter anyway
swift stag
Why is openai not considered as stable ?
coarse gazelle
Why is openai not considered as stable ?
they're losing tons of money with no path to profitability
neat lichen
is the ro tc any different from ng?
past galleon
they're losing tons of money with no path to profitability
ADS
💀💀
last path
but no sign of profitability
lean quail
Yeah fair point
delicate goblet
bro took my fucking job
past galleon
no one takes your job; ur just incompetent
like me
how do you even know you get dds ? i saw the job post dds is only for new grad
verbal isle
yeah
jovial vessel
oai work is bad, much less interesting than db
delicate bane
All c1 teams gap
delicate bane
oai work is bad, much less interesting than db
Oai I know had some of the interns do interesting infra work I think?
pearl meadow
tight adder
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