I mean airbnb is probably a great place to work, I just don't think there's much growth in terms of the company's scope
#Google intern vs Bnb (hypo) swe
simple rover
dim zenith
That’s how legit every competitor works bro
waxen flame
obviously
waxen flame
I mean airbnb is probably a great place to work, I just don't think there's much...
yes this is what ive been saying
dim zenith
Look up the phrase “monopolistic competition” if you want to learn more
waxen flame
if you care about WLB and remote right when you graduate go ahead
sharp crystal
airbnb has a lot of JS libraries ❤️ and style standards
unique lantern
u cant generalize the work you'll be doing based on the company alone
unique lantern
like just choose whichever team has more interesting work
waxen flame
u cant generalize the work you'll be doing based on the company alone
what cool work is there to be done in BNB.
dim zenith
Java script is used everywhere, is that an issue??
dim zenith
what cool work is there to be done in BNB.
Development on their new initiatives like ride sharing
Algorithmic price discrimination
There are some crazy algos they could cook up for ts
waxen flame
Actually you know what im wrong. @prime jasper , go ahead and take BNB rideshare development. So excited for you and your future
unique lantern
what cool work is there to be done in BNB.
didnt they create apache airflow lol
dim zenith
Yeah
See, who would expect airbnb to create a cloud platform
And yet they did it
Don’t underestimate them
waxen flame
didnt they create apache airflow lol
They dont own it anymore
dim zenith
AIRflow
waxen flame
yeah actually neither of these options seem good
Nah this is harsh, google is good
dim zenith
That’s pretty cool
unique lantern
trolling
dim zenith
Ads
unique lantern
lmao tbh google ads tech stack is so proprietry that im confident you will learn more at bnb if thats what ur after
dim zenith
Agreed
waxen flame
lmao tbh google ads tech stack is so proprietry that im confident you will learn...
they are Core, not ads
waxen flame
He said core sunnyvale when i asked...
dim zenith
He said core sunnyvale when i asked...
Yeah but that team also does work on ads
unique lantern
if its core, higher change you do some infra work that is more generalizable outside of google tbf
will prob still learn more at bnb lowkey
waxen flame
will prob still learn more at bnb lowkey
what causes you to think this im interested
'hiring bar' isnt valid btw
dim zenith
Airbnb has a more diverse product line
If he gets bored on one team he can just switch to their ridesharing app or smth
prime jasper
If he gets bored on one team he can just switch to their ridesharing app or smth
It’s time to take a leap of faith
waxen flame
If its bnb rideshare you should take it, fengtian.
unique lantern
what causes you to think this im interested
uhh i interned at a like a series b startup last summer. the 3-4 most cracked ppl went to bnb lol
waxen flame
uhh i interned at a like a series b startup last summer. the 3-4 most cracked pp...
this has nothing to do with airbnb teaching you a lot
waxen flame
There is a weak correlation here sure but its much more dependent on the the actual work and company 💀
prime jasper
I read that airbnb is coming out with a dating app too
Airbnb dating goated company >> Google
dim zenith
Their moat is that they have access to financial data s& a large existing user base
DateBnB
waxen flame
You'll learn a lot more from a random startup doing heavy infra compared to airbnb frontend no matter how 'talented' people there are
unique lantern
this has nothing to do with airbnb teaching you a lot
lol i mean i just asked them how they like it airbnb. they said they liked the eng culture there (from a technical pov). one of these ppl is also ex-google fwiw
prime jasper
Both my interviewers were lwk ex Google too
dim zenith
It isn’t frontend though his team at airbnb would be developing the ridesharing backend
waxen flame
lol i mean i just asked them how they like it airbnb. they said they liked the e...
well this is what i was saying as well. everyone is there for the culture, nobody is there to learn and level up
waxen flame
if you care about that go ahead
dim zenith
He dmed me and said he had a chance to work on the core algorithm
waxen flame
Airbnb glaze is insane
holy another brain cell
sharp crystal
ridesharing backend sounds interesting over google ads though
prime jasper
Bro if I wanna to learn I would go to meta or aws
dim zenith
Airbnb glaze is insane
Dude a year ago I would’ve agreed but they’re growing a lot as a company
stable saffron
Google is too though…
sharp crystal
i feel like its easier to go from google -> airbnb than vice versa
stable saffron
Stocks only gonna go up from here
prime jasper
Bro if I wanna to learn I would go to meta or aws
Not Google probably the worst way to learn new grad
dim zenith
They announced their ridesharing app a while back & recently trialed a dating app
waxen flame
what good is your talent if these are the results lmfao
unique lantern
i feel like its easier to go from google -> airbnb than vice versa
this could just be because less people are willing to make the opposite transition
dim zenith
Stocks only gonna go up from here
It already has whereas airbnb has a lot of markets they’re expanding into
Google is literally just search
stable saffron
It’s not tho
dim zenith
Almost entirely search
waxen flame
Google is literally just search
search alone requires 10x the talent and technica lcomplexity than all of airbnbs products combined
dim zenith
If search is so hard why are like 100 companies doing it
Chrome, safari, edge, DuckDuckGo, Firefox
Etc
sharp crystal
bro
unique lantern
Chrome, safari, edge, DuckDuckGo, Firefox
i mean
half of those
u might be trolling actually
im not going to get baited
stable saffron
Chrome, safari, edge, DuckDuckGo, Firefox
U cant compare any of these to google
😂
waxen flame
u might be trolling actually
Everyone been getting trolled by ascaredcow the whole time
Poor fengtian
stable saffron
D1 troll
unique lantern
just go google classroom bro
dim zenith
That’s just because google is better than the competition
When ChatGPT gets popular it’ll replace google though
unique lantern
chatgpt will run out of money before then
dim zenith
Bro they’re being funded by Microsoft
stable saffron
Bro they’re being funded by Microsoft
It’s a circle jerk
dim zenith
Microsoft isn’t running out of money anyyytime soon
waxen flame
macrohard mogs microsoft
unique lantern
microsoft is literally losing their shit over windows as of recent
and rolling back some of the copilot shit iirc
dim zenith
It’s a circle jerk
Ok, so how is openai investing back into Microsoft?
Amazon too btw
unique lantern
Ok, so how is openai investing back into Microsoft?
didnt openai pledge hella money into azure spending?
dim zenith
didnt openai pledge hella money into azure spending?
They cancelled that
sharp crystal
claude is the best ❤️
dim zenith
Went with AWS instead
umbral granite
this is wrong btw
dim zenith
They’re not profitable
Only because of deepmind and Anthropic running their models at a loss
dim zenith
this is wrong btw
G8 is accurate at least ik someone who works there
waxen flame
this is wrong btw
OK what is it instead then
unique lantern
google can subsdize their gemini losses realtively easily tho lol
dim zenith
Not forever
umbral granite
ng is 215
waxen flame
G8 and G9 seem pretty comparable to google at least
umbral granite
g8 like 315
dim zenith
g8 like 315
This is incorrect they lowered it recently
waxen flame
lmfaooooooooooo
holy shit im dead
@prime jasper you're trolling the most
google p easily you can get >=250
unique lantern
openai literally has 1.4 trillion dollars in data center commitments
waxen flame
ng
dim zenith
openai literally has 1.4 trillion dollars in data center commitments
Ok but if they invest in the data Center companies they’ll be able to build them for free
unique lantern
tbf i think openai is kinda too big to fail at this point
dim zenith
It’s an investment
waxen flame
^ I stand by this.
^And this.
?? Telling someone to choose google over airbnb is not trolling 
dim zenith
Nobody in the real world knows what Jane street is
waxen flame
What do you think @umbral granite is this a crazy take
waxen flame
Nobody in the real world knows what Jane street is
It is a nobrainer
dim zenith
Hey jimmy
sharp crystal
claude said theyre both equal
umbral granite
What do you think <@374503123667910656> is this a crazy take
depends on goals and personal prefs a lot
sharp crystal
what
dim zenith
claude said theyre both equal
Claude is biased
Against google
Because deepmind is a competitor
waxen flame
depends on goals and personal prefs a lot
switzerland aah take
People need to stand on business more.
sharp crystal
it still said google was better name
waxen flame
Its more like Ive poured so much effort into trying to get google that it physically hurts me to see people throwing it away for BNB of all companies
waxen flame
Its more like Ive poured so much effort into trying to get google that it physic...
^ Exctly this
I dont see other TM candidates as competition
Ive been trying to help others for a while now
Even in the nooglers discord
dim zenith
It’s only goog lmao not like he got quant or smth
waxen flame
i posted all the questions my hosts asked me for my first 2 calls
prime jasper
I dont see other TM candidates as competition
Bro if my friend who did 10 leetcode problems did it it can’t be that hard to get
waxen flame
They legit are tho
I know they are but i dont personally see it that way
prime jasper
Bro if my friend who did 10 leetcode problems did it it can’t be that hard to ge...
With an IT internship as a prev
waxen flame
It’s only goog lmao not like he got quant or smth
i mean i got IMC i just dont like it.
prime jasper
Whose now teaching others how to get calls in the googler discord
dim zenith
Your success is their failure so better not get too attached
prime jasper
Like wtf
dim zenith
Quant mogs google btw
waxen flame
Bro if my friend who did 10 leetcode problems did it it can’t be that hard to ge...
this is your issue, is thinking that selectivity correlates to quality. if airbnb hires like 8 interns then of course theyll have a harder process. not because they're better, but because theyre too poor to afford more.
dim zenith
Yeah
stable saffron
Besides unicorns ig
waxen flame
This isnt a difficult thing to understand, fengtian.
dim zenith
Even most unicorns
prime jasper
this is your issue, is thinking that selectivity correlates to quality. if airbn...
No I don’t really care but like your making me not want to work for Google
dim zenith
Youre*
waxen flame
No I don’t really care but like your making me not want to work for Google
You've been set on bnb from the beginning lmao dont put it on me
stable saffron
Just take Airbnb doesn’t need to be a debate 😂
dim zenith
Yeah because bnb mogs
waxen flame
Just know TC is less since you seem to care about that.
dim zenith
More growth especially short term
dim zenith
Just know TC is less since you seem to care about that.
Ok but on the other hand you can live in Thailand for three months a year
unique lantern
bruh is it lol?
dim zenith
Guys I know someone who got it and it’s 210 this year
unique lantern
recurr is like 220 (second year)
dim zenith
Max is 250 after negotiation with competing
waxen flame
Max is 250 after negotiation with competing
max is 280 with competing, 240-250 is default
unique lantern
Guys I know someone who got it and it’s 210 this year
first year you get more than that cause the rsu split is like 38% first year
dim zenith
max is 280 with competing, 240-250 is default
This is incorrect
dim zenith
first year you get more than that cause the rsu split is like 38% first year
No even accounting for the RSU
Second year is about 200 without refreshers
jaunty totem
no way this is coming from the D1 deleter
dim zenith
Proof?
dim zenith
Your org might pay a little more than avg ig
unique lantern
i think ur trolling lol
waxen flame
not that TC should matter early career
dim zenith
Airbnb TC is NOT higher than google you guys are tweaking <:KEKW:102809924100608...
When you account for cost of living
waxen flame
but i guess is does for u guys
umbral granite
some people need to be banned from offer debate for the betterment of society😭
random stream
This guy is genuinely just here to make sure everyone picks the worst offer possible
waxen flame
This guy is genuinely just here to make sure everyone picks the worst offer poss...
yeah its kinda sad
potentially ruining peoples lives
dim zenith
This guy is genuinely just here to make sure everyone picks the worst offer poss...
Bro he’s the biggest troll
Mf glazes google in every thread
waxen flame
Mf glazes google in every thread
i barely talk on CSCD
random stream
Bro ive never participated in these threads except the one i maxe
dim zenith
You wake up every morning and search for google
waxen flame
I guess @dim zenith is OK to stay then
dim zenith
Damn bro there’s like 6 spectators
dim zenith
Despite lying about Airbnb TC + Airbnb products
Bro look it up
prime jasper
You've been set on bnb from the beginning lmao dont put it on me
No I didn’t.
dim zenith
They’re expanding their verticals and growing their horizontals
waxen flame
They’re expanding their verticals and growing their horizontals
ok this made me laugh lmao
tight pasture
dim zenith
He was too smart to be tricked by you bro
prime jasper
Yuh after a while of this for a day
dim zenith
Trying to increase people’s perception of google
prime jasper
Yuh after a while of this for a day
After most of the mods in the discord voted for bnb
dim zenith
Mfs think that the colourful letters mean something
kind slate
After most of the mods in the discord voted for bnb
mod neq qualified
dim zenith
Point is their new grad tcs are basically equivalent like I said
kind slate
just take what u want
waxen flame
mod neq qualified
someone non trolling wow
dim zenith
Airbnb has higher resume value and is remote and allows international (Thailand) travel
waxen flame
Airbnb has higher resume value and is remote and allows international (Thailand)...
higher resume val
dim zenith
Thailand?
unique lantern
or i mean just the remote part tbh
kind slate
ur just asking other college kids for their opinions that are distilled from a circlejerk in the same server
waxen flame
not even on citadels list (which is the only main list of target companies that is public)
tight pasture
Airbnb has higher resume value and is remote and allows international (Thailand)...
Thailand?
dim zenith
Yeah you can work in Thailand
waxen flame
this only hurts airbnb even more lmao
unique lantern
yeah idt the decision here matters that much tbh
would just go with the better team
waxen flame
If citadel values c1 over airbnb i hope that'd show you something
dim zenith
would just go with the better team
Aight so if you get ridebnb core algorithm go airbnb otherwise go google
unique lantern
Aight so if you get ridebnb core algorithm go airbnb otherwise go google
bro airbnb is not becoming a ride-share company lol
warm osprey
bnb -> passport bro pipeline
dim zenith
bro airbnb is not becoming a ride-share company lol
They already have, Google it
kind slate
lmao
tight pasture
😂😂😂😂
kind slate
but even if they weren't prev bnb this servers just glazes some companies
dim zenith
Nah bro bnb it
They haven’t expanded into that vertical yet
waxen flame
but even if they weren't prev bnb this servers just glazes some companies
yep, very randomly as well
kind slate
They haven’t expanded into that vertical yet
they gonna be able to bnb u some lady boys in thailand
20 min wait time
unique lantern
but even if they weren't prev bnb this servers just glazes some companies
(bloomberg)
random stream
Nah i use the bnb search engine daily
kind slate
(bloomberg)
LMAO
kind slate
Nah i use the bnb search engine daily
im using a bnbbook rn
dim zenith
they gonna be able to bnb u some lady boys in thailand
Bro what
kind slate
best laptop
waxen flame
(bloomberg)
google >> bloomberg >> bnb
dim zenith
I meant the cuisine
unique lantern
google >> bloomberg >> bnb
bb is not better than bnb lol
warm osprey
if u work at bnb u can go into the database and see where bonnie blue is filming her next shoot
that should be worth more than any perk that goog has
random stream
Shopify > bnb @dim zenith
kind slate
if u work at bnb u can go into the database and see where bonnie blue is filming...
???
LMAO
random stream
the trade desk
waxen flame
Shopify > bnb <@835503460258414602>
this isnt as crazy a take as ur making it seem
dim zenith
The trade desk might mog both here
unique lantern
> the trade desk
bruh is this company even real
kind slate
if u work at bnb u can go into the database and see where bonnie blue is filming...
what u gonna do with this info
warm osprey
pull up
unique lantern
i feel like ttd is made up
dim zenith
i feel like ttd is made up
TTD
dim zenith
How do you think google places their ads bro
tight pasture
ascaredcow is TTD’s number one glazer
dim zenith
It all goes through the trade desk
dim zenith
The trade desk might solve fewer problems than google but it has extremely high revenue per employee and it solves those few problems very very well
It’s somewhat like quant in that regard
prime jasper
random stream
tight pasture
It’s like a quant firm basically
jaunty totem
Past performance does not indicate future returns
are you going to buy TTD stock anytime soon
dim zenith
I invest exclusively in index funds
jaunty totem
I invest exclusively in index funds
so thats a no
dim zenith
I guess I have invested in a little bit of TTD stock
unique lantern
ah yea ttd and radix, the rivals veryone thinks of
jaunty totem
I guess I have invested in a little bit of TTD stock
theyre fried bro
random stream
@dim zenith ttd or jane street?
waxen flame
i see IMC, citadel, js as equals and radix as slightly worse
dim zenith
Jan street probably
waxen flame
wouldnt consider any of them
equal in terms fo my priorities
so all quants basically equal
dim zenith
Your priorities are “google”
waxen flame
id take amazon over any quant
jaunty totem
Your priorities are “google”
if you joined google 2 years ago your stock already doubled btw
unique lantern
aight bro i need to leave this thread
waxen flame
that was just a joke theyre all equally undesirable
dim zenith
Radix is known to be a bit worse than citadel
The work life balance is better but tc is a bit lower
waxen flame
i dont need to work at albertsons to tell you its undesirable as a SWE
thogh for my goals maybe albertsons > quant
actually nvm quant still has some scale
prime jasper
thogh for my goals maybe albertsons > quant
Ight bro time to get off of blind
dim zenith
Thanks for the chat guys
tight pasture
id take amazon over any quant
dim zenith
I need to sleepmaxx now
prime jasper
This was very informative guys thanks for the chat 😄
dim zenith
But I enjoyed educating you guys about airbnb
waxen flame
I'd say Google >>>> Amazon > quant ~ albertsons > bnb for me
random stream
And the trade desk
Ass company
dim zenith
I thought this was funny
waxen flame
And the trade desk
TTD is quite good i heard actually
dim zenith
I’m not trolling bro 😭
prime jasper
TTD is quite good i heard actually
要想成功钓鱼，你需要相信钓鱼者。
——孙子
waxen flame
Nobody was really trolling here everyone just has their own opinions.
tight pasture
TTD is quite good i heard actually
dim zenith
Yeah
dim zenith
Name 1 trolling message I said too
waxen flame
Name 1 trolling message I said too
i said nobody was trolling
dim zenith
Like I was genuinely just explaining airbnb
waxen flame
i know
random stream
Airbnb is ngmi
dim zenith
And TTD
waxen flame
Nobody was really trolling here everyone just has their own opinions.
waxen flame
Airbnb is ngmi
this is true but they wont listen
prime jasper
要想成功钓鱼，你需要相信钓鱼者。
——孙子
random stream
Gaslighting final boss
dim zenith
Also crystallize I think ridebnb core algorithm mogs most google teams
dim zenith
Ridebnb is not a thing bro
Istg none of you looked it up
random stream
Bnbbrower not responding bro sorry
warm osprey
crystalize isnt real hes just a gemini instance running on this server
dim zenith
Do some research before calling me a liar
dim zenith
Bnbbrower not responding bro sorry
Browsers are already a saturated space like I said before, way too many competitors
waxen flame
crystalize isnt real hes just a gemini instance running on this server
there are known LLMS acting in this server btw, ive identified at least one or two
dim zenith
Ridesharing on the other hand only has uber and Lyft, and now ridebnb
And Airbnb is helping to fix that
Yes
tight pasture
Ridesharing on the other hand only has uber and Lyft, and now ridebnb
Did u have to sit on the short bus in school?
dim zenith
Especially interns on their new product teams
dim zenith
Did u have to sit on the short bus in school?
Bro why would you say that
tight pasture
ascaredcow u might not be the stupied person I’ve ever seen, but u better hope number1 doesnt die
random stream
Ridesharing on the other hand only has uber and Lyft, and now ridebnb
This is not even a product bro jus makinf shit up😭
waxen flame
ascaredcow u might not be the stupied person I’ve ever seen, but u better hope n...
most intimidating airbnb intern:
dim zenith
This is not even a product bro jus makinf shit up😭
You know how I can tell you didn’t do your research?
Also holy shit you guys are toxic
random stream
The only thing riding bnb is u bro pleaae hop off
tight pasture
most intimidating airbnb intern:
Airbnb is ngmi
dim zenith
random stream
“Hey chat for this next message can you please pretend ridebnb is a real service”
prime jasper
😭😭
dim zenith
“Hey chat for this next message can you please pretend ridebnb is a real service...
That’s literally not what I said man
waxen flame
"for me" yes
dim zenith
I’ll share the conversation, I just said “tell me about ridebnb”
tight pasture
I searched up ridebnb and my phone got a virus
random stream
Its not
dim zenith
It fucking is
random stream
He’s trolling
dim zenith
Sans track is legit lying about this for no reason
tight pasture
ascaredcow is trying to scam us
Don’t listen to him
He wants us to fall for his crypto MLM
someone call the mod and ban him
prime jasper
We all gotta take a leap of faith and do a ridebnb
random stream
😂😂😂
dim zenith
See
prime jasper
Frieza lock in
dim zenith
They made a placeholder company for when the ridebnb division gets split into a separate company
They’re anticipating the antitrust lawsuits I think
random stream
Im acc amazed by how quick u come up with this shi
dim zenith
?
random stream
U would make an amazing cheater
tight pasture
😂😂
tight pasture
Making us look bad
tight pasture
Working for us big tech tho
Where
dim zenith
No comment
tight pasture
Bro works for Shopify
dim zenith
Sure
dim zenith
Bro works for Shopify
I said US big tech
random stream
Shopify > ttd
dim zenith
Shopify is incorporated in Canada
random stream
Bro defo works at rbc
dim zenith
That’s Canadian tho
random stream
😂😂😂
dim zenith
Why do y’all care anyway
prime jasper
We love you cow
prime jasper
This was a proactive convo! I hope we do another round of csdev debating tmr instead of going outside!
lapis shuttle
I said US big tech
zon larp
opal raptor
This was a proactive convo! I hope we do another round of csdev debating tmr ins...
does your intern offer letter not show your start date?
prime jasper
does your intern offer letter not show your start date?
It does
opal raptor
mine doesnt for some reason
prime jasper
mine doesnt for some reason
I told my recruiter*
final ore
Google will hire or interview pretty much anyone
Airbnb is more selective and generally on par with G imo
esp given OP’s goals of coasting
Plus 100% ro vs 70-80% is a consideration albeit a small one
Take bnb if he gets it otherwise G
waxen flame
this is public knowledge atp, its a pretty widely circulated list from two-ish years ago
i dont know if its still true, its possible it has been updated
random stream
Google will hire or interview pretty much anyone
this is statistically false
random stream
like 99% of people that apply twin
opal raptor
I told my recruiter*
were you able to push to fall?
prime jasper
were you able to push to fall?
No cause that’s based on the host
opal raptor
No cause that’s based on the host
i was able to push though do you know anyone who is fall interning in bay area?
prime jasper
no
tight pasture
waxen flame
Google GDM >>> Average Google Team > ml infra C1 > Airbnb > terrible google team > average C1 > horrific google team
This is undisputable.
jaunty totem
impossible
waxen flame
well those can be inferred from the rest of the ranking i guess...
likely at the bottom
maybe something like this:
Google GDM >>> Average Google Team > ml infra C1 > top Airbnb > terrible google team > average Airbnb > average C1 > horrific google team > terrible Airbnb > terrible C1 > horrific Airbnb > horrific C1
This is how id personally evaluate my offers
deepmind, but ill include gemini as well ther
For reference 'horrific' teams are very rare e.g bottom 1%. frontend at YT, internal tooling for GCP, etc. almost nobody unlucky enough to get such teams at any company
95% of teams id say fall in the 'average' category
and the rest distributed between top and terrible
crisp stone
top airbnb is insane
latent kindle
nova stone
examples of terrible google team?
sharp crystal
like ads
waxen flame
examples of terrible google team?
terrible would be e.g internal tooling UI
very rare
waxen flame
what would be avg
to me, 95% of google teams are 'average'
fathom hinge
95% of most teams anywhere are alright by these standards
warm osprey
90% of google is internal tooling bro
waxen flame
Picking google over airbnb is not "wrong"
CSCDers actually just live in their own world, holy delusion
this is why i should stay out of here
jaunty creek
if you wanna coast idk why not bnb
grave viper
if you wanna coast idk why not bnb
hi goat
safe nexus
terrible would be e.g internal tooling UI
that’s a real team?
is that like frontend or something?
waxen flame
that’s a real team?
it was an example but yeah I'm sure there are teams like that, frontend based etc.
No, there's no "right" or "wrong". People have their own priorities. Not everyone is looking for prestigemaxing or TCmaxing. If I'm someone who wants to specialize in ML, then yes I'd take a ML/infra experience over a non-ML experience if it comes to it. Not everyone has the same priotiies as me and thats OK
Well no, this would be assuming 'top bnb' is non-ML
But overall I'd think bnb has less ML work than some other top tech companies, yes.
I'm sure it still has though as all companies do
❓ what message was hostile
Well I'm used to people being aggressive towards me no worries
At least in CSCD, in the googlers server people are quite chill
That's fair but for me, I don't care much about TC or prestige so work matters more. And google gemini/GDM is the dream for hardcore ml work
hm true
I guess to me c1-google is all an OK enough range for me
if I got an amazon offer that was heavy ML infra work i would prob be leaning there
instead of imc/stripe/google since none of those are ml for me yet
if its like a random local company or non-tehc focused then yeah
but at that point they probably wouldn't have the same quality of work regardless
So wouldnt be interested in the first place