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#Shopify (Toronto) vs Arcesium (NYC) vs The Trade Desk (Toronto) vs CloudFlare (Austin)
midnight storm
spice maple
for internship? its 10k/month + 8k housing stipend (USD)
spice maple
what is FS?
chilly wadi
For Sure
spice maple
You are waterloo FS right
Yeah*
chilly wadi
Arcesium is not the best Resume Value
spice maple
You will get every Proc
idk bro been a struggle so far
chilly wadi
But get your Money
spice maple
what is best resume value? My friend did shopify and got a lot of procs? so thats what i was thinking too
but its poverty
chilly wadi
For Pure Resume Value Shopify > Cloudflare > TTD > Arcesium
spice maple
its a "spinoff" which means the people that own DESCO own it but its a seperate legal entity 😭
spice maple
For Pure Resume Value Shopify > Cloudflare > TTD > Arcesium
okay bet thanks
do yk if shopify lets u push offer to next term?
i wanna do arcesium for the money 😂
chilly wadi
For Waterloo It shoudl
spark hemlock
ngl i dont think shop is better than cf but if ur loo then it might be the move
spice maple
ngl i dont think shop is better than cf but if ur loo then it might be the move
why does loo make a diff?
have u seen summer to fall?
yeah i remember that
ah okay thanks
eager bane
ive heard many people last summer get told to reapply for fall
just ask after offer tho
spice maple
cause of headcount? or they asked to be moved
meager pivot
I think ttd has relocation to nyc if u get ro
spice maple
I asked the recruiter about it and she said that the ROs are for toronto and they dont do sponsorships
and the salary in canada is shit
really?? for resume value?
spice maple
I think ttd has relocation to nyc if u get ro
even for toronto?
Are you sure?
Ur interviewing for toronto?
whats hypo
Which round?
ahh i see
yeah im in proc
thanks bro
thats crazy bruh i asked too she said nah
who was ur recruiter
She said they dont offer ROs to the states
Yeah same
bruh she tweaking
late flower
Didn’t you just say u asked in the interview?
spice maple
The Trade Desk
spice maple
What tier list is this😭
they make data analysis platform for hedge funds and banks
Damn really
all proc, but shopify and arcesium are a lock like ik for sure i got them
tidal pagoda
😂
spice maple
I have cloudflare interview tmro
tidal pagoda
spice maple
and then TTD the superday is on friday
tidal pagoda
😂
late flower
😂😂😂
spice maple
says who
spice maple
bro the recruiter said they gonna send the offer this week 😂
spice maple
arcesium and shopify
tidal pagoda
😂 😂 😂
dense scroll
@spice maple do you have any offers in hand?
spice maple
arcesium and shopify
Yes^
dense scroll
bro the recruiter said they gonna send the offer this week 😂
Do you have the offer or no?
This doesn't sound like it...
spice maple
the letter? no
dense scroll
Verbal confirmation?
spice maple
Yes
dense scroll
Ok thats fine then
tidal pagoda
type
but ya in all seriousness sanstrack, i do think shopify and cloudlfare is good unless u think u can get the arcesium RO
idk what the odds for the RO looks like there
tidal pagoda
sm shopify ppl go meta shi after
late flower
Shopify doesn’t pay much but it’s more than 110k
spice maple
ud put cloudflare above shopify?
tidal pagoda
I havent seen a guy thats ngmi after shopify
spice maple
Only issue is that mine is for a FE role
IK ppl that got ROs it was in the 140+ range
tidal pagoda
bro ngl ascaredcrow ur opinions are cooked. You put citi over mongo
😂
nah i didnt
are u trolling rn
? 😂
late flower
Why’s shopify bad
spice maple
my goal is resume value, so i can hop to better internships after this one
spice maple
Ive seen a lot of ppl from loo + shopify get crazy next internships
late flower
👀 which one
tidal pagoda
yea ig it depends on what u wanna do
spice maple
shop im trying to get on an applied AI team
late flower
Shopify will get u better procs
tidal pagoda
sanstrack do u like Fe or Be more
spice maple
sanstrack do u like Fe or Be more
be
tidal pagoda
I think shopify is for u sanstrack
spice maple
bro my friend got an offer for 146
tidal pagoda
bro
spice maple
yeah but they dont sponsor
tidal pagoda
😂
tidal pagoda
bro shopify pays 100k for the internship
depends on what coop term ur on right
spice maple
yeah its more if ur on a later term
tidal pagoda
bro
spice maple
Bro i literally know a guy personally
tidal pagoda
I know a guy too
spice maple
that has an offer for exactly 146k
late flower
C4 offer is between 120-140
spice maple
bro this is cap
late flower
Bro trusting levels over an actual intern
tidal pagoda
acc i get where hes coming from
spice maple
Bro we all go to waterloo we know people that work there right now and have worked there multiple times
spice maple
the guy ik got 150 for swe
tidal pagoda
type
late flower
Not just base
spice maple
😂
late flower
W hating
spice maple
bro we're in uni 😂
late flower
Bro’s in grade 5
spice maple
bro why would we lie
tidal pagoda
its a prank
spice maple
its a 250 billion dollar company
tidal pagoda
only 250 billion
spice maple
they pay swes more than 100k
spice maple
bro shopify is a tech company
late flower
😂😂😂😂
tidal pagoda
bro needs a gf
spice maple
yeah but neither do sponsorships
so im not trynna go to either
for ng
my main goal is to not live in canada i hate this place
tidal pagoda
@late flower u cracked?
spice maple
im trynna maximize resume value to get into a good US company
late flower
No
tidal pagoda
ahhhh
late flower
🤧
tidal pagoda
u only got 80k eh
spice maple
hopefully faang+ level
tidal pagoda
ngmi
spice maple
that does sponsorships
late flower
ascaredcow where u working rn?
spice maple
nah he failed the recruiter round
tidal pagoda
jheeeeez
spice maple
bro just say the company
tidal pagoda
u da one
tidal pagoda
im joking bro
late flower
You’re*
tidal pagoda
dont trip
spice maple
bro we discussing resume value not pay
tidal pagoda
😂
spice maple
cap
tidal pagoda
yooo
late flower
Cap
tidal pagoda
gottem
late flower
😂
spice maple
😂
tidal pagoda
@spice maple brokie
late flower
😂😂
tidal pagoda
Nah my boy sanstrack gon be at meta after shopify
late flower
Bro’s working a job 💀
tidal pagoda
bro just start a startup
spice maple
bro ull get quant procs with shopify too
@late flower got citadel and jane street procs
and they all bouta go further than ttd 😭🙏🏽
late flower
U can get quant procs with shopify
Doable fs
C4 upper end is almost 150
Swe
Mle prolly higher
Doesn’t rlly matter if u still get procs after
I have citadel proc and I’m ex shopify
spice maple
bro thats the opposite of what they do
late flower
That’s doesn’t make sense lol
spice maple
they go for people that have familiar names
cause its a higher chance of performing well
late flower
Damn it im ngmi 😫
spice maple
shopify + loo interns go on to perform really well, which is why they get a lot of rpocs
cause tis very common
late flower
That’s not true lol
Why is bro so against shopify 😭
It’s just a job gang
me too icl 😂
No like Ik a couple of “ngmi” ppl who got Shopify
Its not ngmi
spice maple
bro ive never heard someone call shopify ngmi
late flower
Why is ur only source levels 😭
If someone knows the actual rate
U still trust levels
That’s the problem 😭
spice maple
theres late stage startups that pay good
late flower
200 in Canada?
spice maple
ideogram, stan AI, etc
yes
bro no one cares about canada this place is cooked
we trynna make it to cali
and more tax
and SNOW
autodesk
bros defo at autodesk
or adobe
ik im trolling him
autodesk ngmi
ai bro
let me guess
autodesk > shopify
bro i know
mental garnet
ascaredcow is gmi
spice maple
scared cow hates shopify for some reason
ai rbo
this guy trynna aurafarm
with his alt account
spark hemlock
ttd pays best but cf is best name + better if u want to move to us
shop is also good but pays less and is less of a "tech company" than cf is
buoyant surge
What’s the highest you know?
ember olive
buddy that’s what they said ab zon
every zon prev ik has gotten some sort of quant proc or bare minimum db
don’t try to say ttd stock comp is eq to faang lmfao
down 30% on the year
you telling me u think this stock is just as good as like meta
stock is a large part of senior comp
and like a quarter of ng
u think this bum ass advertising company is gonna perform better next year than meta?
“market hasn’t priced this in” such a shit take
so what you’re saying is every single stock is equally likely to perform/exact same ev because the “market priced it”
damn
can’t argue with that
i’m done w this lmfao
noble nacelle
worst tier list
why is every quant above big tech
is this ranked by salary or what
then its bad
in what way
besides pay
and even then some of these quants pay similar to big tech
prestige to who
😂
cscd
sig susquehanna is aura bro 🔥
lol no
shit firm
as an example
are you quant
bro wants to get laid off after working 80 hours for 6 months straight
stop the cap
go ask a random person on the street if they know what 5 rings is
if ur argument is aura
some of them dont pay 500k
or even close to it
no they dont
its not an opinion
how can you disagree with a fact
its a fact some of them do not pay 500k
my source is going thru sig process and asking about salary
😂
im sure a bunch more are the same
qd
it matches levels
if your only metric is tc then sure
most people enjoy having lives
but even then if ur metric is tc then the tier list is shit
if it was then tesla would be d
life dream 🔥
dangle carrot in front of engineers
tesla is shaping humanitys future 🔥
elon is a fraud
he merged xai for a gov bailout
bro fell for the propaganda
its over
buoyant surge
tc as the only metric is bad
noble nacelle
hes ragebaiting
buoyant surge
prestige from just tc is ridiculous
no but most people say quant > big tech, that's why
noble nacelle
no but most people say quant > big tech, that's why
only ngmis
buoyant surge
only ngmis
what would be at the top of the tech tier list for you? Just curious lol
noble nacelle
thats a good one
noble nacelle
unicorns and trendy big tech (ai rn)
buoyant surge
don't they require masters/phd?
noble nacelle
theres only a few quants worth working for
buoyant surge
theres only a few quants worth working for
js/hrt?
noble nacelle
yea like t1
for example, optiver has really scummy practices with graduate hiring ive heard
they cut people before the first yearly bonus
spice maple
They give cash stipends on top it comes out to about 98k
lost knoll
most people enjoy having lives
the wlb argument is overstated tbh, most quant firms dont have terrible hours
also ppl will talk ab wlb and then proceed to just come home, watch reels, scroll discord, and sleep 💀
like over 60
no
lost knoll
bro bankers work 100 hour weeks
ember olive
the phd i work with sleeps in the lab
ember olive
not terrible if u sleep 4-6 hr
yes?
last sem i was easily over 80 hrs
3 lab positions + 19 ee credits + tutoring + independent research
it’s not that bad
i’m relatively in shape
have friends
etc
4-6 hr
lost knoll
im ngl if ppl can have a whole roster, many friends, and be jacked working 100 hours/week you're a bum if you cant do that on 60
ember olive
im ngl if ppl can have a whole roster, many friends, and be jacked working 100 h...
ong
ember olive
ts dude talking out his ass
i have literally worked 80 hr weeks
last summer i did 3 pt research positions + zon intern
more than 70 hrs
last sem was closer to like 90
lost knoll
u sound insanely privileged to think 55 hours is a bad life bro
ember olive
i actually have a low resting heart rate
lost knoll
i actually have a low resting heart rate
are we arguing with a nepo baby?
ember olive
are we arguing with a nepo baby?
ong heis
mfs don’t know what life is like for us
street hustling
lost knoll
bro... you're sitting on a $2000 chair in a perfectly air con-d office with unlimited free snacks on a mf company estate worth hundreds of millions
ember olive
some of us work on stuff we enjoy
lost knoll
like you are not breaking ur back doing hard work
ember olive
bro... you're sitting on a $2000 chair in a perfectly air con-d office with unli...
ong
ember olive
some of us work on stuff we enjoy
i know plenty of ppl putting in like 40 hrs work 60 hrs gaming a week
like irl
is that also unsustainable in your opinion?
lost knoll
you can make the desk standing, you can use a walking pad, you can work outside...
like you have everything at ur disposal
my point is that 55 hours is far, far from a bad life especially when your situation is so comfortable
like nothing stopping u from using a walking pad
ik ppl that do
you have free healthy snacks
free gyms too sometimes
depends on your role but could be yeah
yeah you might be but it's only mental tiredness, not mental and physical
all things considered it's a great situation
wheat halo
@spice maple how did u get offer already for shop? I just had life story they said offers are next week
wheat halo
It’s not buns but it’s just lower full time pay
empty wasp
no its legit buns lmao the name gets u nowhere compared to cloudflare
wheat halo
I mean money isn’t everything tho
A lot of my friends say the experience itself is great
But obv I think cloudflare is better
rain sierra
What did cloudfare ask for technical interview question? i have a swe backend interview coming up with them would be a huge help!
buoyant surge
wdym it's a canadian company?
buoyant surge
A lot of my friends say the experience itself is great
agree
well yeah everyone wants to go states so understandable
so company pay and location is the issue here it seems?
work wise there's plenty to learn and do
empty wasp
trust bro 3 canadians are telling u shopify is ahh trust
rocky latch
I wouldn’t say most of big tech loo just has a much larger undergrad compared to other schools
So it’s easier to be over represented
and thats js cs, uw as cfm, se, and the other se adjacent engs
spark hemlock
cf is def best name especially for startups and unicorns
spice maple
cf is hiring 1100
spice maple
bro what is this arguement 😭
shopify hires 1000 interns and its ass, but cloudflare can do the same because its not canadian
that makes no sense
chilly wadi
recruit for better none of these will move the needle more than the other
Waterloo + Shopify will already get everything
No LMFAO
Amazon >>
He is waterloo
Top school
Yes
Better network
Amazon is still considered a top company
Nobody knows what TTD is in sf
Yes
But Amazon is a very good name to get on your resume
You can target mostly any company
empty wasp
bro what is this arguement 😭
bro choosing shopify is stupid man cmon
its not abt how many interns they hire
the resume value is just not high compared to CF
source: a friend worked at shopify
spice maple
damn really
i have friends that worked at shopify and got basically every proc imaginaable
after shopify
(all shopify + loo btw)
spice maple
but u think cf + waterloo > shopify + waterloo?
from resume value perspective purely idc about ft tc
chilly wadi
but u think cf + waterloo > shopify + waterloo?
Nobody will care
They will see waterloo and give you interview
spice maple
bruh its not that op
spice maple
I have not gotten many interviews
I have a good gpa, just chose to work at a startup last year (no name) instead of a big name company and it cooked me. Got a lot of practical exp but having brand names on ur resume is defo more important than being waterloo
ornate pelican
cloudflare
spice maple
yeah well cloudflare is hypo if i get the offer i will take it
worn inlet
Aside from it being Canadian why do people keep calling it buns here
Isn’t it solid for resume value?
Forget tc
Yeah but why
Yeah I’ve noticed tons of loo going there
Oh well
honestly for me the only thing that matters as a second year is resume value
I think coming from a non target if I land it it'll be the biggest thing I have 💀