#Meta (Oculus research-adjacent potentially) vs OpenAI

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surreal hawk
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also has anyone been able to get OpenAI NYC by negotiating

vestal cave
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Openai

glossy grotto
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OpenAI

surreal hawk
glossy grotto
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You made up your mind already

surreal hawk
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not entirely there may be things im unaware abt w oai

earnest valve
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Meta cuz u hit L6 in 3 years!!!!

upper sparrow
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meta

red arrow
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depends how optimistic u are about OpenAI's future since they are in trenches rn

remote flint
red arrow
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Just a matter of how much stability u want after joining

surreal hawk
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hm i do value stability esp bc i’d be on a visa

surreal hawk
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although stability at meta esp under RL seems pretty bad too it’s just in the form of layoffs/budget cuts rather than the entire company’s finances

narrow zenith
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does openai offer visa support?

surreal hawk
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yes both do for tn visa at least

narrow zenith
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oh immigration doesn't matter then

surreal hawk
narrow zenith
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ur candian not on h1b

surreal hawk
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just a pain to deal w

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tbh biggest concerns w openai are from the amount of unknown variables bc idk a single person who works there. only been able to talk to ppl w offers who like me would be going off what recruiters say

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only sources for info on OAI i have are my recruiter who will say whatever to get me to sign and blind which says you'll get fired in sub 6 months without warning 💀 💀

lean cedar
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what do you want to know?

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oh wlb is kinda cooked yeah

surreal hawk
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is it like bad because you need to output a lot or bad because of social pressure/political reasons. if it's the former i don't mind as much.

also regarding ppl getting straight up fired is it actually true or is it just ppl dooming on blind like always.

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also are promotion timelines accurate from recruiters, mine told me 6-8 months avg l2->l3

lean cedar
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your first question depends on the team and your level. id say as a new grad, it's more because there's pressure to perform because everyone around you is working very hard. people do get disappeared somewhat randomly yes but they're trying to improve culture and perf reviews so that it's more transparent.

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and as a new grad, idt you'll get fired

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that promo timeline seems about right. again depends on the team and manager a lot

surreal hawk
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gotcha tyty that's rlly helpful to know

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how did team match work btw, recruiter was saying i'd fill out a form then interview iwht a few managers

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which could help for selecting a team i like

lean cedar
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i didn't go thru regular tm so idrk 😅

surreal hawk
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icic nw

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i think mine is only diff bc i'd be starting outside of regular summer grad summer cohorts

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do u mind if i dm

lean cedar
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sure

surreal hawk
# surreal hawk
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oai vs meta

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openai

lunar path
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holy shit asorn congrats : D

surreal hawk
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tyty ❤️

lunar path
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WATER WATER WATER

surreal hawk
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LOO LOO LOO

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ended up signing oai

lunar path
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noice noice :0

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granted all of the people I've talked to recently that interend at meta apparently all hated it lul

surreal hawk
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that was the common experience LOL

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i actually really enjoyed it

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but very team dependent

lunar path
lunar path
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very nice for u tho :o

rapid rune
surreal hawk
# surreal hawk but very team dependent

i think this kinda came down to my team being mostly long tenure and still having what meta used to be in the teams culture and they had joined oculus/RL when it was just starting out

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so at the individual day-to-day level things were great

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but meta at the org level and company level consistently has been choosing to make the most sub-optimal decisions for employee well-being since 2022

earnest valve
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does openai have regular liquidity events

surreal hawk
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i've heard yearly tenders for PPU but i haven't been able to get a full answer from the recruiter

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there's ipo rumours anyways so idm too much

earnest valve
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Not that u need it with 170k base in Seattle lol

surreal hawk
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yea lol

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oai base is almost meta's recurring

earnest valve
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also isn’t it rsus now

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instead of ppus

surreal hawk
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yea

earnest valve
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didn’t know oai had Seattle too

surreal hawk
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dk much for RSUs

earnest valve
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more people doomed to pnw

surreal hawk
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u can choose sf idt they're limited with hc

earnest valve
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o

surreal hawk
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at least atm

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loc was just a personal pref choice for me

earnest valve
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I guess its like the same pay anyway for lower col and less tax

lunar path
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org-wise it sounded extremely chaotic

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like both a ton of people being hired and also fired at the same time which is 😭

surreal hawk
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yea

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i think meta uses an approach of inducing fear in employees to squeeze more output which is why ppl get hired while others are being fired

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instead of just like

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treating them better 😭

dusky rivet
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OpenAI nyc is a thing????

surreal hawk
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they have an office but it seems to be a lot of non-eng

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and recruiter said its not possible for ng when i tried negotiating