OAI vs Decagon | cscareers.dev | Page 1

slate swan Dec 11, 2025, 5:17 PM

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What r ur utilities?

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 5:24 PM

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meow_shocked

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 5:38 PM

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oai. it just opens way more doors

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i thought they only had 10k relo, 30k is kinda crazy

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is it all lump sum?

vestal void Dec 11, 2025, 5:56 PM

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i believe its a reimbursement or smth

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not a lump sum

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but idk i wish its a lump sum, i didnt know it was 30k either 💀

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 7:10 PM

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vestal void but idk i wish its a lump sum, i didnt know it was 30k either 💀

yea that would pretty much be a signing bonus lmao

vestal void Dec 11, 2025, 7:11 PM

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does decagon have interesting work?

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it seems like the company is building an AI customer support bot or smth

subtle bay Dec 11, 2025, 8:01 PM

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oai ez

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:03 PM

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damn openai TC is ass

next zodiac Dec 11, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Whut that tc is ass? ☠️

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It looks pretty good to me

proud scaffold Dec 11, 2025, 9:08 PM

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Decagon work >>

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:18 PM

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yeah ngl expected a lot more

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:20 PM

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doesn't that still beat most of tech based on levels

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ig if they added a sign-on it would be more competitive

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i'm only seeing dbx being higher here

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:46 PM

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yep plus other ai labs are at 400k+

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:47 PM

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damn ramp is goated

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:47 PM

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ramp data is fetched wrong

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if u click on it ng is 200k

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:47 PM

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😢

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:47 PM

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little orbit yep plus other ai labs are at 400k+

for applied swe?

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anthropic doesn't do 400k at ng for sure and i doubt deepmind does either

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197k here

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their senior is like 550k no way they're doing that for ng

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:50 PM

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yeah i mean xai/anthropic/tesla AP those are 400+

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for swe

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:50 PM

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unless levels is extremely misreported it is

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actually wait is their lead position what's actually senior, it would make sense if that's the case

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:51 PM

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#1448524294316625940 isn't this swe

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:52 PM

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also like oai applied swe process is mickey compared to all those

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it's just 2 coding rounds of OOD and 1 behavioural the rest of them have a rlly high bar

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:53 PM

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xai anthropic tesla ap what else is high for swe

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quant stagnates tho

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i mean non-quant

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prolly like together AI/pika/etc

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those kinds of labs

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have swe positions

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:55 PM

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spacex going to be highest paid with 1.5t ipo

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:55 PM

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depends on how u value their equity too

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:55 PM

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marsh tendon spacex going to be highest paid with 1.5t ipo

they're ipoing?

ornate roost Dec 11, 2025, 9:55 PM

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oai anthropic xai are pretty liquid in comparision

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:56 PM

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yeah it's cooked

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dead company

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2026

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unless they do some financial witchery we never going to mars 🙏

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:56 PM

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marsh tendon dead company

wait spacex would be dead why

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:56 PM

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bc they're going to shift to build shitty LEO dcs

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:56 PM

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they'd get so much cash

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:56 PM

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yeah

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to build space dcs

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net negative

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like it was originally started to go to mars

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company thesis is going to rot. financials going to be fine

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:57 PM

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makes sense

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even if they don't meet the thesis still a good overall outcome

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better than having no starlink or private launches

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:58 PM

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i dont see it as an either or

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but good for stakeholders ig 🤷‍♂️

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hopefully he funnels all the money into tesla robotaxi

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otherwise gg waymo wins

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:58 PM

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waymo expanded so much

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did u see their blog

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:58 PM

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they're doing crazy numbers rn

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yeah insane

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i would say they wont scale but g's bag runs deep

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 9:59 PM

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ngl i still don't think tesla is gonna solve self-driving with just cameras

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 9:59 PM

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i highly doubt that camera vs lidar is the real issue

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rivian just went lidar too tho

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but yeah idk what the internal bottleneck is

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imma fix it 🙏

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 10:00 PM

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it's jus too hard of a problem

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getting the last 5% of the way there will take increasingly forever

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 10:00 PM

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true but tesla is still like l3 i think which is p bad

little orbit Dec 11, 2025, 10:00 PM

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unless some architecture breakthrough

marsh tendon Dec 11, 2025, 10:01 PM

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repo?

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idt it's architecture

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just hw5 and more compute

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compute is king

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ai5

viscid ledge Dec 12, 2025, 2:00 AM

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little orbit yep plus other ai labs are at 400k+

for research not SWE

glossy bison Dec 12, 2025, 2:51 AM

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😂

vestal void Dec 12, 2025, 10:25 PM

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ornate roost ramp data is fetched wrong

ramp is around 240-250k for ng this year

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bc of the new valuation raise it might be closr to 300k now

ornate roost Dec 12, 2025, 10:26 PM

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hm i see

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is levels just underreported then

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the 2 most recent october 0 yoe subs are 200-220

vestal void Dec 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

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yeh im not sure, i had a ng offer that was in that range so yeh

ornate roost Dec 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

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was it 250 y1?

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or recurring

vestal void Dec 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

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recurring

ornate roost Dec 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

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interesting

vestal void Dec 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

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they had a pre small sign on iirc like 10k

ornate roost Dec 12, 2025, 10:27 PM

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yea i was just wondering bc levels usually splits sign on over 4 years when calculating which could've been why

vestal void Dec 12, 2025, 10:29 PM

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also while openai ng is lower than other labs, they have pre fast promos for the early levels so the pay comp diff shouldnt last too long if ur good

ornate roost Dec 12, 2025, 10:31 PM

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o actually?

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what're their promo timelines comparable to

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is it like uber/meta fast

vestal void Dec 12, 2025, 11:18 PM

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ornate roost what're their promo timelines comparable to

l2 to l3 is 6-12 months from what ive herd

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and l3 is around ~335k from what i hear

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not sure about l3 to l4 but idt its too bad either and l4 pay is around 550k

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after l4 its a lot slower but they dont really hire junior / mid level so thats why i think the early ones are pre quick

sacred cliff Dec 15, 2025, 3:23 AM

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much longer hours

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decagon is hella 996

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i've also talked to people there who've said its 996

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interesting

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maybe its just ymmv

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yea

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i did not

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my interview process was chopped tbh

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all my interviewers came late

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but im also chopped so thats why i failed

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one of mine was rescheduled to next day completely lmao

sacred cliff Dec 15, 2025, 3:27 AM

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sacred cliff + much longer hours

yeah i think my comment is not completely informed since idk much about hours at oai or xai

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pivoting -> research is a possibility though

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yeah but i think research at openai > research at decagon

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this is true

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dang i didn't know xai was like that

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ig makes sense for their comp

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did you get offer

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congrats!

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ng right

glossy bison Dec 15, 2025, 5:37 AM

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less interesting than decagon?

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oai is tryna become the next google tho

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like they've got hella products they're putting out over the next year

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i would def take them over decagon

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i mean if compute gets cheaper 👀

thorn prism Dec 15, 2025, 7:43 PM

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I will choose Decagon if you think agent is more interesting than CRUD

tired cipher Dec 15, 2025, 11:27 PM

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ik someone that left deca for meta after like 7 months fwiw

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work they were doing wasn't interesting enough to warrant the supposed poor WLB

hazy ivy Dec 17, 2025, 5:57 PM

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whats decagon proc like

gloomy pulsar Dec 17, 2025, 6:59 PM

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so 995

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