apple swe vs scale (ml research) vs bytedance vs amazon

[little moth]

please let me know your guys reasonign as well 🙏

[little moth]

yea im pretty ahead in terms of courses so i can take hella time off school tbh

ooh

yea it is

tbh im not sure

yea kinda crazy 😭 i do enjoy working tho

yea thats fair, ill def keep that in mind

tyty for the input

[little moth]

LMAO alr yea nobody voting for it 😭

[fluid moat]

would not take a semester off school unless u need to for financial reasons or its a great opp that u wont get again

i would not categorize apple as a generational opp

only get 8 semesters of college make good use of them

[little moth]

any particular reasons?

[fluid moat]

i feel like taking an extra int wont help your res too much

unless generational opportunity or your res was trash

you have the rest of your life to work and make money

[little moth]

yea im not super worried about money, but my resume is lacking a big tech name rn

[fluid moat]

do you have prior internships

[little moth]

its basically all startups that no one has prolly heard of

• some research

[fluid moat]

can u only do apple in summer

and forgo spring

[little moth]

idts, they were pretty adamant about 9 months

[fluid moat]

ok

u have zon offer?

[little moth]

nah, only apple so far. im on vo for scale, offered interviews for tiktok (but im not sure if i want to proceed with them at all), and just started the team match thing for zon

[fluid moat]

i thought zon was oa -> 45 minute interview -> offer

there's a team match now?

[little moth]

errr smth like that, they said theyll pass my resume arnd first to see if there is a team that fits

i finished oa, then was given some questionarie email

[little moth]

sry not team match, i think its just a hiring tema approval

[fluid moat]

ah

[little moth]

yea i heard scale is terrible palce to work at now

[fluid moat]

i think offer for zon is guaranteed then

idk up to u

[little moth]

yea if i dont troll interview 😭

any opinoins on resume value for apple vs zon?

[fluid moat]

i personally wouldnt give up on a semester of school to intern at apple over amazon

false

apple has marginal res value compared to zon

and worse pay and ro rate

[little moth]

o dang rly?

[fluid moat]

i would say so

unless u have a cracked team

[little moth]

im not too worried abt pay but the differnece in ro rate may be kind of a problem

ohh icic

[fluid moat]

yeah they do but you have to reinterview to get ng offer

and the pay is like 165

[little moth]

yea im not toooo worried abt skipping school a semester

[little moth]

oh wait wtf

for apple?

[fluid moat]

yeah u do

[little moth]

seriously?

[fluid moat]

i wouldnt do it

over amazon

[little moth]

damn thats kind of nuts

[fluid moat]

unless it was crazy ml exp or hardware team

whats the tech stack

and what is the domain

[little moth]

not sure abt tech stack

[fluid moat]

assuming its gonna be a mix of pytorch and cpp

[little moth]

not sure actually

[fluid moat]

yeah personally id fade

[little moth]

oh dang alralr

[fluid moat]

im not super interested in that domain and the benefits and baggage that comes with interning at apple

but if was some coreOS team id consider it

but if ur interested in the team take it over zon

just know that less likely to get ro at apple

apple also rescinds new grad offers like crazy

[little moth]

damn tahts fucked

[fluid moat]

like quitting 12 weeks in?

uhhh

u would blacklist yourself

but if ur comfortable doing that id guess its a positive EV play?

personally im not that grimey

but could be worth it

[little moth]

😭

maybe if i get some crazy offer

[fluid moat]

they def have an internal profile like all other companies

if u applied again they could see that u quit

[little moth]

damn this is hard 😭

[fluid moat]

do u care alot about ro or learning

[little moth]

tbf i dont have any other offers rn so ig its not something too big to even consider atm

[little moth]

both are pretty importnat to me

but maybe ro more

ig apple not a good look for that tho

[fluid moat]

id go zon then

[fluid moat]

its very org dependent

[little moth]

junior

[fluid moat]

im pretty sure apple benefits are also awful

[little moth]

im not entirely sure, ive heard amazon pays better but worse wlb and layoffs, while apple pays less but safer?

yea thats what im thinking, but id needa land zon first haha

[little moth]

how so?

[fluid moat]

like its not better than zon

[little moth]

er like what beenfits tho

like healht and stuff?

[fluid moat]

idt they have any

apple doesnt have free lunch

i know that

[little moth]

oh bruh wtf

damn

😭 yea thats true too

[fluid moat]

idk if apple is much better tho

does apple have free snacks and drinks

theres no free dinner

[little moth]

free dinner but not lunch??

oh

[fluid moat]

idk who put that

[little moth]

damn ig ill just keep trying then for procs

what r ur thoughts on tiktok?

[fluid moat]

hell hole

996 hell hole

if ur not chinese i would not intern there

every ex tiktok person at meta did not say one positive thing about the exp

[little moth]

oh fuck me damn

alr ill pass on that ig

wld u guys consider scale ai during summer at all or nah

[fluid moat]

could be interesting

idk what other companies that exp could be useful to

other than maybe nvidia

i wouldnt get that pigeonholed early in my career

def very interesting domain tho

actually CoreML would be tough

is apple MLR even highly reputed

its def a tier below deepmind, meta, oai right

u never hear about apple scientists getting poached

[little moth]

wait i actually ehard one of them got poached

[fluid moat]

by who

[little moth]

by meta i think

but its only one person ffrom what i herad so

[kindred radish]

yo what are we doing

doesnt scale ml just mog

apple pay is like 35/hr 😭