#Microsoft vs. Snap Inc.

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onyx wasp
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Company: Microsoft
Title: Software Engineer
Location: Remote
Base: $103k, $30k sign-on split over 2 years ($15k/year) + $100k RSU over 4 years
Team: Azure core
Pros: company/stock is doing great, more stable, remote
Cons: not learning much

Company: Snap
Title: Software Engineer
Location: Undecided
Base: $130k, $53k RSU / yr + $15k Relo
Team: Unknown
Pros: better for learning, work will probably be more interesting
Cons: don't see much of a future for snap, have to move

Right now I'm at microsoft but I haven't been able to do much so far beyond running lots of kusto queries for investigations/minor improvements in their codebase (in the 2 months I've been here, I haven't coded at all, only worked with powershell/kusto).

The work is pretty boring and I'm looking for growth and learning and while I would prefer remote, I am willing to move for a few years before going back to remote. Should I leave microsoft for snap or keep looking for other opportunities?

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Microsoft vs. Snap Inc.

cloud peak
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holy shit

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103k base??

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why r both of these so low ball

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i thought theyre both usually like 180k+ fy tc

onyx wasp
fallow osprey
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ngl these companies offering low tc is embarrassing

fossil wyvern
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I would go to snap

onyx wasp
red sundial
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How’s snap sm lower than levels numbers

onyx wasp
onyx wasp
onyx wasp
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nope US

dark portal
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did u calculate the snap rsu correctly

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i dont think u did

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im pretty sure its 53k a year not over 3 years

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143k recurring is not competitive with big tech whatsoever and snap competes with google and meta for talent

fallow osprey
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@dark portal check the stock of snap… it’s sooo low now

dark portal
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yeah thats true

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but 17k a year in stock is really trash

fallow osprey
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Wouldn’t be surprised tbh though

dark portal
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nah

fallow osprey
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If it was actually true 😭😭

dark portal
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its gotta be cap

fallow osprey
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You might be right though

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Let’s see what op says

dark portal
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they cant poach talent at that comp

fallow osprey
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True

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But everyone is desperate now

dark portal
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eh

fallow osprey
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150-160k isn’t bad

dark portal
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thats 147 recurring

fallow osprey
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Just a backup tbh

dark portal
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like c1 level

fallow osprey
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Yea 147k isn’t too bad

dark portal
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no way snap competes with c1

fallow osprey
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LA is zone 2 location

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It’s not zone 1 so it’s decent

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For 147k

dark portal
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i mean if u think about it that way yeah

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but at a company level its horrible

fallow osprey
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But that’s the reality bro 😭😭

dark portal
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since they need top quality engineers

fallow osprey
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I feel you though

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Let’s see what op says

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53k yearly or over 3 years

dark portal
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wait also msft base doesnt seem right either

fallow osprey
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So embarrassing if it is 😭

dark portal
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103k

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?

fallow osprey
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He might be capping lmaoo

dark portal
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Yeah

fallow osprey
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Wait

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If it’s remote

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He could be at a zone 3 location

dark portal
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someone with msft ro got 172 recurring. which appeared to be standard offer at entry level

fallow osprey
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That seems about right ngl

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It all depends on location bro

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Dude might be living in the middle of nowhere 😭😭

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I’m curious about snap though

dark portal
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does msft go that low?

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nvm i see on their website that it does

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idk what Microsoft is going through rn but they usually offered less money for greater job security

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and now it looks they give u the worst of both

onyx wasp
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my bad, yeah RSU is $53k/year

dark portal
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go snap

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snap a pretty solid name to start your career

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jump in two years to smth else

fallow osprey
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@dark portal yeaa it seems like microsoft lost its touch now... not competitive anymore compareed to before

dark portal
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yeah honestly worse than zon now

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might be worse than tesla as well

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actually i would much rather intern at tesla or zon than microsoft

fallow osprey
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^

native kite
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defo snap, look at their bands for ic4 and ic5 its pretty nuts

fossil wyvern
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You'll make more as mid level than probably senior as msft

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Stock will need to fall far for that gap to close

native kite
fossil wyvern
cloud peak
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holy fuck

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412k for L4

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566 for L5

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Are promos just absolutely cooked? this is like better than G etc

dark portal
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probably like 360-390

craggy flax
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I think it’s at 3+ yoe

jaunty wraith
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ive never seen it that low 😭

dark portal
native kite
native kite
native kite
craggy flax
dark portal
high tiger
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microsoft is better for stability but snap is def better pay and i think the name is as good as microsoft

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also when did you finish interviewing with snap and when did you get updates?

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@onyx wasp

torn fox
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The big number you are seeing uses initial grant value

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By the time it vests it will be lower

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So your tc is not actually going to be that number

craggy flax
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Yeah that’s true unfortunately

torn fox
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I’ve had to come to the conclusion that gambling on kalshi is the only way to make it out

onyx wasp
onyx wasp
spring badge
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did you get your internship via snapfest?

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@onyx wasp

icy trench
icy trench
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all i need is two coin flips to go my way and I'm good for the next year

jaunty wraith
onyx wasp
onyx wasp
# onyx wasp
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Microsoft vs. Snap vs. Somewhere Else

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Snap

fallow geode
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snap is so ass

fallow osprey
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Better than Microsoft @fallow geode

jaunty wraith
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Microsoft rlly varies based on what team and org

fallow geode