#Together ai vs Scientech vs Axiom Math vs Google AI catalyst (hypo) vs Moonshot ai vs Others
whole locust
Also I am international. In terms of visa, except Scientech provide perm after 1 year, other not sure about the policy (I ll ask them to figure out). All of them sponsor h1b.
violet void
Ur my goat
whole locust
plz leave your reasons & thoughts. I ll reeeeallly appreciate it!!!!!
whole locust
Ur my goat
stop
cobalt ether
for axiom what does the 37.5k options equate to in terms of percentage of company? is it 37.5k per year over 4 years?
whole locust
for axiom what does the 37.5k options equate to in terms of percentage of compan...
150k for 4 years total 0.05%
cobalt ether
do they negotiate base and options? or is the 230k base 70k options the minimum ur willing to take over the others
whole locust
do they negotiate base and options? or is the 230k base 70k options the minimum ...
yes, if they below that I ll definitely quit on it
hazy knoll
@whole locust ms? phd? also when you say "ai infra" is it doing that on the cloud or locally
whole locust
<@1064043335142080604> ms? phd? also when you say "ai infra" is it doing that on...
undergrad
cloud side
paper grove
past fable
我爱moonshot
wise warren
tawny coyote
definitely axiom or moonshot, axiom if you want to stay in us or moonshot if youre fine with going back to china
gray totem
moonshot no question
whole locust
No, I ll do that tomorrow
chilly star
@whole locust how important is being / staying in US for u
imo axiom/together are scary from a stability perspective as an intl but if its a risk ur fine with theyre good
google is more stable in that regard but also def the worst option (not sure what scientech is tho)
and if u dont care too much for the US or its just w/e to you, moonshot in a heartbeat
dont bite the kimi k2 hype too hard though in your consideration on moonshot
whole locust
dont bite the kimi k2 hype too hard though in your consideration on moonshot
make sense make sense. Thanks for the advise!
chilly star
make sense make sense. Thanks for the advise!
yeah + consider that moonshot also bodes well for coming into the US at a future date if you choose not to now
chilly star
agree they are promising but not there yet
whole locust
Oh one thing I forgot to mention. I have a non-disclose situation that if I go back to China, it will be highly possible that cannot back to US again.
for work
no preference. rn want to stay in us for couple of time first
in the future dont know
violet void
ask moonshot if you can found their USA office
halcyon quail
moonshot and live like a king
gray totem
Oh one thing I forgot to mention. I have a non-disclose situation that if I go b...
wow, is that really an enforceable clause?
whole locust
yes An old one called 10043
pliant sierra
if you don't have xi jinping breathing down your neck 20x7
chilly star
bad advice bro
if he cant go back to us this is just wrong, even if he prefers china there are so many other career factors out of preference that you should not shut this door lol
if his end goal is china he's not even gonna post this 💀
and even if end goal is china growth within us > growth within china
yeah that applies if u only care ab tc
depends on the person 🤷♀️
whole locust
yeah
try to work on these two now
Axiom is not raising
ppl suggest me not back to china
now is together and tradings left
tryna get together first and then see hows other process going on
is that fair？
past fable
Axiom is not raising
hard stuck 180k + 35k?
whole locust
base raise to 188k
past fable
do you know the cubist team btw? KEPL?
whole locust
and the equity calculate by their formula is 5M💀
whole locust
dont go to etched
wait why
past fable
might be +EV to nego together AI and go there
past fable
bro 5 M??
gray totem
etched has zero taped out chips bro
past fable
HUHHH
past fable
aint they raising another round soon?
whole locust
😭
chilly star
Axiom is vaporware too
whole locust
its so hard
gray totem
i know two ppl who worked there and they both left before a year
bad vibes from etched
chilly star
Together is the only non China non Google company on this list with an actual product
chilly star
Cubist is the move
past fable
just Axiom
gray totem
maybe together or google then of the available
past fable
the network is more than 100k
chilly star
Cubist wlb isn't bad
Either
I mean it depends on ur pod
But crt is relaxed
R u kepl
Or what
whole locust
cubist is acedamy
past fable
isnt cubist sub 400tc for most teams?
whole locust
rotation on 3-4 teams
chilly star
cubist is acedamy
Oh idk anything abt that
past fable
id say axiom bro u got the dawg in you
chilly star
bro axiom is a 12 person startup with no product
ur just riding their team being all prev FAIR
but they hjavent done anything yet
this guy is an intl, if it goes up in flames tmrw he just has to recruit again
chilly star
i feel the same on decagon
gray totem
google or together is safe
chilly star
and idk enough about etched but im sure its similar
gray totem
etched sounds so bad bro dont go
chilly star
so tis rly just google, together, cubist
that are viable
in my eyes
isnt catalyst like special needs ml
like u suck at ml but u wanna work in it
so u go into special needs class (rotational program)
past fable
bro axiom is a 12 person startup with no product
bro you play big you win big bro
chilly star
😭
past fable
but true about the intl part
chilly star
tbf i think axiom would be very solid if hes US citizen
past fable
maybe etched or togther then, theres talents too
chilly star
small good team = lots of learning
gray totem
do not go to etched
chilly star
dont they start you at l3 after ur 1 year
so u just work a year with 0 progress towards promo?
or do they start uat l4
past fable
bro i mena
chilly star
true
past fable
my guy jianyq said already he doesnt feel the talent of the interviewers he got are great
whole locust
which means perm is not available
past fable
so, optimizing for talent density is more
whole locust
also together is an ml role right?
no swe
whole locust
I compete hars
chilly star
ah i see
whole locust
hard
chilly star
my friend had 190 base competing and they would only go to 160
guess he got scammed LOL
true
past fable
orz...
whole locust
bro
past fable
axiom is fucking u bro
whole locust
I have no good offer
chilly star
no swe
if ur willing try sending me ur resume, maybe i can connect you to a stronger lab in the US
cobalt ether
what is the spreadsheet calculating? how much ur 0.05% is worth?
whole locust
basically this is a random variable
you use p times return and sum up
then is your expected val ue
chilly star
ngl the people i know who signed together swe dislike it. i agree tho its safer
its a research lab so ur just researchers bitch
whole locust
given
tulip light
pretty optimistic imo
whole locust
😭
whole locust
for together it is swe
axiom is research
but I heard that google do not provide perm process
also heard together provide day 1 perm
tulip light
is axiom just research or r they building product
chilly star
theyre building smth
tulip light
any idea what?
whole locust
is axiom just research or r they building product
pure research
chilly star
some foundation model for formal math reasoning with lean
whole locust
some foundation model for formal math reasoning with lean
yes
So tough😭
ppl in together tell me they ll 3x at the end of the year
and also the sponsorship is good
ok then just choose between google and together
but happen if I have cubist
is cubist rotation program better？
Yes
cobalt ether
super biased take from the dude w the google guy as the username
"random startups"
$64mil seed with meta fair team
whole locust
I dont know hows the intern interview process but for fulltime tbf it is really hard
like5-6 rounds of research coding bq system design etc
halcyon quail
why is slackroad derogatory 😭
chilly star
hes p smart
ik u guys were trolling him about pin
and whatever he said ab it
but he's actually v good at math, the interviews were hard
lean folio
is it really safe
Feel like it’s an insanely competitive space and they might get squeezed out long term?
i guess relatively its safe looking at some of the other options here
static citrus
slop threads like these should be banished
@whole locust 99% of cscd larp 10x more than they know, you're better off asking to specific people you trust
proper dagger
does this mean 162$ per share ipo
west prism
@whole locust is together ml research or swe?
lean folio
it’s mle
kindred nacelle
Moonshot is great, but considering long-term career advancement, I'm worried about the salary ceiling in China, which is around 600k-700k USD. I think a genius like jianyq deserves a much higher ceiling.
Google Catalyst is stable, but I feel there are fewer opportunities to create limitless possibilities.
Other companies offer greater upside potential.
sullen ether
@whole locust what team for etched
if inference then dm i can tell you about it (i work there)
whole locust
cobalt ether
what did you decide to pick or ru gonna keep recruiting
lime fern
how long did i take for axiom to reach back w offer?
lime fern
@buoyant star can u elaborate?