.

[steep birch]

db > stripe > plaid

will not be elaborating

[green peak]

^

Go based on your gut but databricks future is fire and they’ll probably expand to nyc in the future

Tc is fire

Stripe is slowly declining

In terms of culture

Plaid not sure but for sure databricks over plaid

Check blind for more information but that’s what I got from blind

[spare harbor]

how do u know they might expand to nyc

🙏

[green peak]

Databricks has office in nyc already bro and they’re going to ipo soon

Perfect time now bro

[manic cloud]

stripeeeeee

it suits what you wanna work on

:P im biased fs

[cobalt oyster]

databricks is having a huge sunnyvale expansion next year

I doubt NYC new grad is happening after that when they don’t even have nyc new grad rn

I think I would go ramp > plaid > db > stripe given nyc is a non negotiable

or nvm I guess u could go db and recruit ng again but either way I think id have ramp at 1

[manic cloud]

They have stripe NYC tho

They could return there, the RO depends on intern performance

[cobalt oyster]

Yeah true tbh I’m just going off the op saying nyc ro is rough

the more I think, the more I have db at last 💀 since op wants to be product focused too

Idk is db really that good this poll seems crazy

[stable turtle]

db dds is considered to be rlly good i think

i'd go ramp here

[cobalt oyster]

I think it’s definitely the best one overall don’t get me wrong but given the product preference + location non-negotiable I just feel it has way too many votes

I think w the new grad market it doesn’t make sense to take db and then have to rerecruit for nyc when u have some top nyc options

[next silo]

I can elaborate on stripe nyc ro. For the summer there were 25 intern spots and as a result 25 new grad spots. If you were intern in ny but didn’t exceed in performance your spot may have been overtaken by a top performer/return intern elsewhere

[manic cloud]

but if you did exceed as an nyc intern you were basically guaranteed it no?

[next silo]

Yah

[manic cloud]

perfect

[merry galleon]

well its like 150 kids competing for 25 spots

[stable turtle]

do you care about WLB?

stripe has bad culture, DB no NYC + not product area

seems like it's btwn ramp and plaid, so if you care about wlb, go plaid

otherwise it's ramp

[zinc locust]

databricks DDS > ai

[manic cloud]

bad culture? nahhh

[green peak]

Bro imagine just to be in nyc you need to perform hella 😭😭

What has this world become to

It’s fair though I guess

[manic cloud]

pretty fair tho

probably much easier if you intern there too

[woven magnet]

Anyone how culture is at db

One thing is working a lot, that’s fine, but is the culture toxic

[gaunt sapphire]

why

[stable turtle]

both are high i think

[wise chasm]

@deft sail congrats on the great offers

if nyc is 1000% non negotiable take ramp or plaid ofc.

all 4 of the companies u mentioned have been historically very good in terms of RO rates

DB gives u best recruiting value tho and DDS org is fire

i would ask ramp for fall

i also know some externals were offered nyc db offer, it’s possible if ur rlly rlly cracked, but idt a summer intern returning has the kind of leverage it takes to get that (my friend got nyc db by negoing with quant offer)

stripe obv solid RO but hard to get nyc

[cobalt oyster]

oh damn

[merry galleon]

oh i never heard of this

damn

not to doubt you, but did you fact check this like i geiuinly never heard of this

the only teams in NYC are a few AI teams i think

[burnt prairie]

wtf

need db nyc location

[wise chasm]

yes

two ppl i know personally

one was AI research, one had quant competing and DDS

it’s a bargaining thing though i think they don’t give unless ur truly exceptional

[wise chasm]

citadel

[calm bison]

highk just continue with ramp. i think db is the best option here but if you want nyc ramp or plaid i think are the better options and imo ramp > plaid

[steep birch]

db for resume value + work beats out the rest of the companies on the list, they are also opening a nyc office. but if you don't want to stake nyc on your performance at db, go ramp or stripe

ramp is great and better wlb than stripe

i don't think you should consider plaid at all here

this is true, but paper money, plaid is no where close to ipo'ing and not sure if their outlook is good enough anyway to justfiy appreciation

[stable turtle]

i think plaid can be considered if they want good wlb

[steep birch]

makes sense

i think from comparative pov stripe is probably better from a growth perspective?

same w ramp

dont they have stripe nyc

oh yeah, and if they got plaid now they can def get it ng if they dont hit stripe nyc ft

yeah given op's circumstances it would have to boil down to ramp v plaid

ramp tc is comparable no?

exactly

so it really depends on ramp outlook v plaid outlook

i see, i know someone who got ramp 230k ng

ya plaid tc mogs on paper

does plaid have buybacks?

how liquid r their stoc

i would say so

[stable turtle]

i thought ramp was 260k

[steep birch]

maybe w nego

it's comparable

i believe in ramp more so would take it over plaid, but i also haven't talken to many plaid engineers

you can't go wrong here though

i agree with you 😄

i was under the strong impression that stripe also did offseason

why not do stripe + plaid/ramp

[modern storm]

plaid stock is v illiquid

and i think ramp ipo odds r much better

plaid does not look on track to ipo soon

that means jack abt ipoing lol

[steep birch]

yeah i heard plaid is v illiquid so that's another consideration

snow and db are comp but db is def an upgrade, but you're right

if you want to diversify and try fintech then don't do db

[modern storm]

not full liquidity and its rare

they dont do liquidity events often

[steep birch]

but regardless db better than every company you've listed

[modern storm]

and its only a portion that u can acc sell

[steep birch]

also db is way more liquid and at frontier of ai/ml if you're interested in that, there's internal team mobility so you can switch over to one of those teams

not sure how much ai/ml there is at plaid ramp stripe

[modern storm]

this is very clearly imo stripe/ramp if u want nyc vs db for mtv imo

id pick bb

[steep birch]

agreed

[cobalt oyster]

Do u know how much mobility? One of my interviewers said that a con to her was that it was kinda hard to move around

[steep birch]

i'd pick plaid here

[modern storm]

plaid vs bb tho is much closer than any of these options r to plaid imo

[steep birch]

i know an intern who switched their pillar when going full time

from dds to ai/ml

probably depends on performance but there is mobility, even for full timers

curious why you would want google/meta over snow/db/ramp

[modern storm]

yall need to fear layoffs more

[steep birch]

meta fast promos and fast layoffs

[modern storm]

google/meta w/layoffs rn r scary asf

[steep birch]

but nyc is a selling point so i see it

[modern storm]

job security is huge

[topaz trout]

i think you should go to underwater ceramic technician 🔥

[steep birch]

I would be inclined to take plaid/ramp > Meta

[topaz trout]

ai glaze in this chat goes crazy ngl

u r not at the frontier of ai unless ure like

some ai researcher at oai or anth

[steep birch]

frontier of ai from holistic pov

ie the company

not as an individual

[topaz trout]

dbx is such

[steep birch]

that's what drives stock growth

[topaz trout]

an interesting

paradox

ngl

becuase if you make the argument

[modern storm]

dw ur offers r way better

[topaz trout]

that they are tied to a

AI too much

people say oh no they have a product outisde of ai

[steep birch]

they can survive w/o ai and they are very successful without ai

[topaz trout]

but if you say otherwise

they say dbx is at the frontier of ai!!!

so which one is it

🤣

[steep birch]

both can be true

worst case they're snowflake

best case they're snowflake w ai

[topaz trout]

thatb eing said since u NEED nyc id just go stripe

mayeb go ramp if u believe in their product

but i think ramp is a shit product ngl

[steep birch]

i like ramp product more than plaid

[modern storm]

id go stripe if u r not willing to 996

ramp is supposedly a sweatshop rn

[topaz trout]

996 is everywhere brah

[steep birch]

stripe is a sweatshop too right

[modern storm]

no its not lol

[steep birch]

so as shinne said

[topaz trout]

if u like money u better be prepared to live the 996 life

[modern storm]

apparently its chilling out a bit thats what other interns have said

[modern storm]

my company is not 996 and pays well

[steep birch]

if you lookin for more chill enviro then paid

[topaz trout]

well in terms of what

doesnt ur place pay like

low 200s

wait 5 years

and ull be at 3-4

and someone at meta will be at 6-9

so it depends on whatu. want yknow

[steep birch]

plaid is def the best for wlb balance ensembled w tc

on paper

stripe if you're tryna optimize for tc

[topaz trout]

how much of that is paper money

3yoe at meta ure 500

so it depends

on whatu. want

agian im not saying one is better than the other

[modern storm]

if u dont get laid off lmfao

im not saying that either

[topaz trout]

if u like moeny u just better be prepared to live the 996 life

[modern storm]

im saying u can get paid well and not 996

calling 350k not paid well at 25 is so out of touch omg

[topaz trout]

nono tahts not what i meant

its just what

does

"paid well" mean to this perosn

yknow

[modern storm]

i mean yea u are saying thats not paid well to u

dude go touch some grass please

[steep birch]

you can always just exit to meta after 2-3 years anyway

[modern storm]

i think we r arguing abt diff things

[steep birch]

and still reap that 500k while reaping the stock/higher 1-2 year tc

at a unicorn

[steep birch]

^^

[modern storm]

wrong

if stripe or db ipo u r not getting rich

wayyyy too late for that

[steep birch]

db ipo upside is capped

i wouldn't even say u get rich from ramp or plaid ipo

unless they really up their game

plaid target ipo is in 3-5 years right?

that's a ways to go

you can't really eval upside with that much stride

[topaz trout]

js go where u think u will be happy 🔥

no point in specualting about ipo

when ai bubble mightj ust nuke everyone

next year

[modern storm]

fire ass advice

[topaz trout]

xd

then go dbx idk

[steep birch]

if u care purely abt money then db

[topaz trout]

higher tc lower col than nyc more likely to ipo

[steep birch]

but location is a factor, so if you care abt money and nyc then stripe

[topaz trout]

then wherevere ur family is

lol

[modern storm]

i still think plaid shouldnt be a part of this discussion lol

its stripe/ramp nyc vs db mtv

[topaz trout]

what does plaid even do

arent they just some api

u can get

bank data from

[modern storm]

bc stripe and ramp r simply better

the tc is still worse than ramp and abt the same as stripe but illiquid

[steep birch]

pretty much

[modern storm]

it is tho

[topaz trout]

ok then whats the value of plaid

[modern storm]

ok and stripe is like 260k fy

but liquid

[topaz trout]

stripe and ramp have an actual

buisiness case

i feel like

plaid is .,..?

[steep birch]

shinee does the 20k increase in fy tc from plaid outweight the fact that stripe/ramp have better products, more innovation, more ipo upside?

i think not

[topaz trout]

brah on god flip a coin

[steep birch]

i agree with you

[topaz trout]

u get heads

[steep birch]

idk what plaid really does

[topaz trout]

u go stirpe

[steep birch]

so idk

[topaz trout]

u get rails

tails

u go ramp

very ez decision

🔥

[steep birch]

that's what i have been trying to communicate

this^^^^

stripe tc is comparable and more liquid and better company

[modern storm]

u literally were u just walked it back

[cobalt oyster]

I mean the main problem with ramp is that it’s hypo

[manic cloud]

wait stripe doesnt hire ng for nyc?

[cobalt oyster]

it’s harder than ramp plaid I presume

[manic cloud]

that's weird

[topaz trout]

u know

[manic cloud]

so stripe nyc intern - > ro is best chance

[topaz trout]

stripe might just nukle their nyc office next year

lol

[manic cloud]

why would they do that

[topaz trout]

idk

[manic cloud]

they just leased out an entire new building like last year

[cobalt oyster]

plaid stripe db is like ascending in terms of how good they are and descending in terms of nyc likelihood

[topaz trout]

they are downsizing the nyc office

no interns at nyc this year for meta

unless u r return intern

if this person REALLLLLLY cares about nyc

maybe they should do ramp

[manic cloud]

why are these tech companies allergic to nyc

[topaz trout]

cz their hq is there

[topaz trout]

high tax rate, hcol etc

[steep birch]

STRIPEEEEE

[manic cloud]

im biased, take stripe. im going stripe

[cobalt oyster]

the db glaze seems excessive I still don’t know what they do

[steep birch]

I don't know why this server glazes Plaid, it's so overhyped

DB is also overglazed

[manic cloud]

it's just AI hype

[steep birch]

😆

[topaz trout]

me neitehr ngl

i went to bricksfest

[steep birch]

when i log into my bank i think they show me my bank's login screen!

[topaz trout]

and half hteir engineers couldnt tell me what they actually workedo n

[manic cloud]

they're like a worse stripe

[topaz trout]

lol

[steep birch]

yea

their entire api is:
what bank is user connecting to
show bank's login

we are very secure for logging into banks!

[modern storm]

@dull flame r u going to plaid why r u riding it so hard

[manic cloud]

their website is lagging my entire browser

[modern storm]

its ok u can be proud of ur company bro

it is a very good company

[steep birch]

stripe is also used by multiple enterprises i can actually list several of their core products

unlike plaid

opposite, ppl are saying stripe is growing and apparently more chill wlb too now

it's really ramp v stripe

[modern storm]

i was worried abt that stripe stuff too last year which is why i turned it down. however, after talking to some ppl that interned at stripe last year it seems like it was actually a lot of fun

[manic cloud]

🥸 mfs realizing company differs from team to team

[steep birch]

do you think that product is enuff to justify ipo upside

[topaz trout]

then just go based on team match

[steep birch]

i really don't see how they can justify a massive valuation

[topaz trout]

pick the team that seems like the most fun to u

i dont mind working long hours as long as its something i find enjoyable

working one osmething boring just mentally kills me ngl

[modern storm]

stripe has more customers than plaid

ofc their val is higher

its much more popular

[topaz trout]

how

stripe is a payments processor

plaid is a .....? bank api integration?

[modern storm]

just bc theyre both fintech doesnt mean theyre that similar

[cobalt oyster]

Damn is plaid really that much worse

[modern storm]

oh also one more thing. dont let anyone tell u u r crazy for turning down db if u rly value location. location is something thats soo important that ppl here dont see bc all they see is money. if nyc is what u want turn down db and dont look back

[cobalt oyster]

Yea I would turn down db here for sure given the loc

well

unless ur willing to rerecruit ng

[modern storm]

ng recruiting is cooked i would try to get an ro that u would take rn

[cobalt oyster]

surely it’s not too cooked for a db dds intern

[modern storm]

its still pretty cooked

[cobalt oyster]

damn

yeah I guess nyc external is cooked

[topaz trout]

culture is top down dude

if ur company leads are schizo

ur company is gonan be schizo

sure u might find a pocket of non schizos

[cobalt oyster]

but also based on what ppl are saying, it feels like relying on stripe nyc ro is kinda sketchy too?

[topaz trout]

but if the whole vibe is bad

its gonan be bad in genral

[modern storm]

true but at least it gives a shot at a nyc ro while db doesnt

[cobalt oyster]

yea

[modern storm]

idk much abt nyc ro rates with stripe

overall is apparently pretty chill

ng recruiting is sooo much more cooked than intern recruiting

this is a bad mindset rn

[cobalt oyster]

just based on what ppl are saying here about stripe nyc ro I feel like plaid is still v valid

[modern storm]

even with top companies u will have trouble recruiting ng as many companies only do intern recruiting

[steep birch]

DATA BRICKS > STRIPE > RAMP > PLAID

[modern storm]

THIS JUST IN: different ppl enjoy different things

some ppl optimize their job for what they enjoy

[dusky hull]

this is a stupid opinion

i think based on everything ive read in this thread its a decision between stripe and ramp depending on how you like the culture

[topaz trout]

ehhh

im not too sure how that true is

since infra is very esoteric knowledge

if you can ramp up quicklly they have the incentive to keep u there

cz it takes time to learn a companies in house infra

product is "relatively" easier to learn

its gonna take u much mroe time

to learn TAO or whatever

tahn just some backend u know

i mean these are all pretty niche

[merry galleon]

i heard db was 30 hours a week

[topaz trout]

at least at meta the core infra teams always promoed people really quickly

as long as they were competent

cuz they didnt want to retrain people

[merry galleon]

i heard meta is also 30 hours a week

[topaz trout]

"core infra"

not

like

backend that is the "infra" for some other service

i hate when people call taht infra lol

[manic cloud]

knee do you happen to know which teams are in stripe nyc?

infra generally interests me more

[merry galleon]

i think like

the ones that engineer the software

mainly

[manic cloud]

oh that's good

hmm thats interesting, my recruiter was telling me something a little different like nyc is more product focused

but i could be misremembering the convo

idek what that corresponds to in terms of the work being done

crud engineers

[merry galleon]

wait u have stripe nyc?

take that shit and dont look back lmao

stripe put u in a highrise in hudson yards thats 15k a month

💀

[manic cloud]

deadass??

[merry galleon]

yes

[manic cloud]

ye

i didnt know that was in hudson yards

stripe my goat

[merry galleon]

no they give nice ass corp housing

its deadass like 15k a month if u get it urself

[manic cloud]

i was thinking to find smth in brooklyn

but if its like that....

[merry galleon]

no i had a few friends in stripe nyc though

mfs were living life

[manic cloud]

they room with other stripes right?

[merry galleon]

its either 2b2b or 1b1b

depending on luck

[manic cloud]

oh ic

[merry galleon]

pretty sure you can request 1b1b if u say u have a kid or some though

💀

ngl stripe nyc is a one in a life time experience

also stripe vs databricks is a utility choice

db rsus are granted at time of joining

so ur not getting ur shares until 2027

[manic cloud]

would you take stripe over doordash

[merry galleon]

easily

[manic cloud]

hm, ok

[cobalt oyster]

DoorDash future seems bleak

[manic cloud]

you should see doordash labs tho

[merry galleon]

the only point of db is for the upside but if ur joining in 2027, ur gonna be joining after ipo or like 150 billion valaution

theres little upside after that ngl

[cobalt oyster]

Wait is stripe not

[merry galleon]

stripe rsus r dumb too

they give u 30k every year i think

but its at that price point

theres no intial grant

[cobalt oyster]

O

weird

[topaz trout]

stole that from shopify

or shopify stole that from that

them,

lmfoa

[merry galleon]

actual stupid ass policy

[topaz trout]

stupidest rsu grant strategy ngl

[merry galleon]

they prob bleed talent cuz of that

do you want to go stripe or db ft? or something else

if not theyre pretty similar resume value

[cobalt oyster]

db nyc is cooked

[merry galleon]

realistically ur not getting db nyc lol

[cobalt oyster]

This is just how most companies do it right

[manic cloud]

https://www.suiteamerica.com/company/stripe-internship/home
Found this site for stripe corpo housing

but they're hiding all the info 😔

[merry galleon]

i think so

but db intern is pretty chopped ngl unless ur going for resume value

cuz ur not getting ur RSUS till agusut 2027

ig at db ur going to be working on cool stuff

but that downside of that is your going to be working like 60 hour weeks

[wise chasm]

i think ultimately u should do this

if you don’t get ramp, take plaid or stripe
if you get ramp but no fall, take ramp
if you get ramp fall, take databricks

sidenote how tf u get db dds and ur not interested in dds

i thought that org was mad competitive

[cobalt oyster]

she said she has 2x infra intern already

one of them at snow

[wise chasm]

oh then yeah that tracks

[topaz trout]

wtf is dds

everyone is saying dds this dds that

[cobalt oyster]

Distributed data systems

there’s regular swe and dds swe

[topaz trout]

???

what dds does dbx have

[wise chasm]

these companies are all ngmi take AMAZON 😛😛😛

dds is a cracked offer

@deft sail have u given thought to ramp fall?

is that something you could do

[topaz trout]

As part of this team, you could be working in one or more of the following areas:

Query compilation and optimization
Distributed query execution and scheduling
Vectorized execution engine
Data security
Resource management
Transaction coordination
Efficient storage structures (encodings, indexes)
Automatic physical data optimization
Data plane storage
Storage management system

hm

this sounds pretty fun

[wise chasm]

that actually sounds cool af

hmm

i would decide soon which of stripe and plaid u prefer

i think the dds work sounds incredibly interesting but if not to you and ur dead set on nyc it should not be a consideration

[topaz trout]

why are u set on nyc tho

[manic cloud]

concrete jungle where dreams are made of

[cobalt oyster]

Mountain View sounds terrible if ur from east coast ngl

[merry galleon]

stripe mogs plaid

[vestal prairie]

Nyc

[topaz trout]

ah makes sense

my only ocncern with nyc is its expensive

seeems liek a terribel place to raisea family

and "less tech" than sea or sf

[vestal prairie]

Yea if you plan for a family right after grad

[topaz trout]

so harder to get a job if u get laid off iits harder to get bakc up

[vestal prairie]

I’d move to Washington have family there it has the biggest tech scene for the least cost

[manic cloud]

you can easily raise in new york what??

[vestal prairie]

Yea nyc new grad is the dream

After 3-5 years go to another state that’s easier to settle down

[cobalt oyster]

Washington 😭

[vestal prairie]

Imo I like Washington more than mtv cause the cost and safety

[cobalt oyster]

Ok family there is valid

[vestal prairie]

But that’s preference

[manic cloud]

shit bruh fuck them kids

[wise chasm]

real i’m staying nyc for the foreseeable future

[radiant tusk]

insane take

[steep birch]

Oh my god this was such a long discussion

Op what are you going to end up doing?

[deft sail]

thank you everyone for all your insights, really appreciate it <333 will be removing/closing this thread in a bit

[sour dove]

Valid

[warped stirrup]

If Ramp doesn't let you push to fall, I'd ask for winter.
People this year have had more success with that

[deft sail]

.

[wooden kiln]

i NEED ts

icl