#google or datadog
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assuming its not swe intern if he already got offer
take google lol, talent desnity is way higher
datadog hires off dei
also its google so will pass more screens in general
google the fuck
G
not saying they dont have skills, but if you favor a certain category in resume screening you are bound to have a lower talent density as the candiate pool is smaller
interesting...
Okay so is the general consensus that resume value is the same
in the eyes of quant firms
not necessarily
I see I see okay very insightful thank you
Side note but are going to discover citadel/jane street programs guaranteed interviews in graduating year
what lol i'm pretty sure google clears datadog
google will clear quant screens easier than datadog
it'll be nearly impossible regardless
wtf
but in terms of res value, OP would be stupid to turn down google for datadog
GUYS SHUT UP
and go get an offer
what did u decide
Think I'm going to talk to some more people but leaning towards google despite location
Preciatae you
are we the same person
Haters gon hate
PLS Google but it's your decision
how do you know your google location
im p sure even if ur oa was through the canada location you can still team match wherever in NA based on your form
It depends
Like how huge what are their numbers
Does datadog have less resume value solely because its a dei company?
like grace hopper?
Idk who that is tbh
thats that womens conference
grace hopper conference
idt recruiters are looking at a res and thinking wow this looks like a DEI company
Kinda true ig.. I picked datadog for location cuz i dont wanna to go mountain view but if I wanted solely resume value I'd go to Google
Plus im not TM'ed yet maybe I get google nyc who knows lol
But i just dont wanna be associated w dei
LMAFO word
ngl this sounds more like a you issue than an issue with datadog
and ppl used to get google/facebook through step/facebook uni
like i think you just are insecure
no one handed u a job offer
Yeah well those all got shut down cause they were DEI programs
And the orange man is in office now
Guys youre misunderstanding what im saying
I fw DEI im just saying that a lot of people think if youre black and working at datadog its because of DEI
Like not that they only hire black people cuz of DEI
But people think if ur black and ur there its cause of DEI
Idk how to word it..
LMFAO all good
Are we consdiering DEI just based off race or gender
or both like it doesnt seem like both
nah google mogs
+5 points for race +2 points for gender
there's one black person in the entire intern class someone just linked lol
no one is thinking that
lol
Ik theyre saying its cause of DEI that that black person got it
That is actually waht i heard
broo it's a u thing
i promise u
Idk wym
99% of ppl aren't thinking that
Yes they r
Its not far fetched to think is what im saying
How i literally have these same two offers
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Well
TM for google
a normal person isn't going around thinking, hey that black guy in my class only is working at datadog because of dei
plus if they think that than they would think that for any company
The point is that 100 percent of the black people working there are working there because of DEI, not that they only hire DEI applicants
let alone recruiters LOL
omg bro
please go see a therapist
ok and a bunch of women every year get procs through grace hopper conference
I know another guy who got it thru colorstack as well
like it doesn't matter
He was the third person to get it
u had to pass the interviews
Thats dei as well. Dei is not just black people.
Yes Im good thank you
Dude if thats all you can say then dont even try and argue with it
LMFAO
i mean u made the choice to go to colorstack if it means that much to u lol
but in reality it doesn't matter
Well duh ima take advantage of the opportunities ive been given.
But im also gonna recognize why i got those opportunities.
I made this acc today..
nah honestly i can see it
internalized racism is a bitch
Thats a completely different thing
What do they associate whiteness with
Affluence and education probably
That is actual internalized racism
You said you were gonna lockl the thread like a million years ago and these guys keep pinging me
Now you're arguing semantics
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So it's gone too far but you wont lock it now you'll lock it later when it goes even further
Okay dude..
what is happening
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dei
id go goog btw
ddog not that prestigious
if it was db or blox or smth of that nature there'd be an argument i think
heisenberg knows offer decisions
for internships just prestige max
i actually do try to always be neutral
and not consider my exp
im not seeing the case for ddog
i think if ur goal is just recruit quant then yea
WAY MORE
realistically ppl see u as ex-Google or ex-Datadog first
do u go to a t10
uh that's why
wdym by ddog level? bc like db/blox for ex are much better than ddog
school is lwk more important than company for quant recruiting
like ideally u have school + faang+
no for quant, u ideally need school, should study cs + math or stat, AND have faang+
that's what i thought too unless iam mistaken
it is but you didn't have school
but back to my question google or mongodb?
yea datadog is the same tier as mongo
i mean it is...
honestly idk if ur exp is common anymore, ifl u can get quant procs with just 2 good prevs and bad school
i also go to similar school as u
maybe school prestige has relaxed? idk
i'm talking about res value for internships
damn yea that's why no quant procs
decent school tho i see a bunch of ppl go into faang/faang adjacent from there
the fuck they only hire from mit/harvard
nah a lot of uiuc and ut
Ik a utep guy who got in
i mean yea sure those are top cs schools tho
Make a new thread
so u can yap about dei some more?
@twilit wigeon
I mean i can keep going
Thought we would put this behind us
No more talking about DEI workplaces like ddog
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learning doesn't matter for recruiting, and honestly the work u do doesn't matter that much either
for intern at least
i'm telling u a week after i started at google an oai recruiter was already in my DMs
Google does more than this
Yeah you will
Theres a lot of interns but alot of offices
this guy just yapping
All the NYC interns were super close last year
i mean no, but u get free bfast/lunch/dinner, free massages, and u work a cool 25-30 hrs a week
oh nevermind
yes bc no one fucking cares
muh muh I couldnt make friends at google so nobody can muh muh
yes i think the name is that much of a diff
So why would you talk about the Google intern experience
as someone that has gone thru ng recruiting
NAME trumps everything
"Yeah google intern experience is bad" -Someone who did google remote
?
No they're not
Yeah and the image you sent showed like 5 events
Google had an event every week
And thats not an exaggeration
thank u for talking some fucking sense
Yes and they have a lot of offices...
google has an event like 2x a week lmfao
Its not 300 interns in one office its like 30 in your area that you're close with
ESPECIALLY nyc
Exactly
this is nyc specific there's like a million in the bay
Idk why this guys trying to act like datadog is better in terms of events
i do understand ur point about yea it's prob easier to make friends at datadog
Thats true
SF interns were close
The only "mid" experiences were MTV
and MTV had events every week for the entire location
and svl, and that's where most interns are
Yeah and they both have their own events
true but we're saying hypothetically
For the entire cohort in that location
ehh this isn't true
i think they're mid tbh; i'd still take g but i think events at smaller companies will naturally be better
i know several ppl that got into tm before it started and never got matched
i agree with heisenbergy on this
Fair enoguh
I think google events still clear tho
yea ik but it's pretty rng ngl
curious, which ones did u like?
yes
yes def lmao
Theyre diff every year based on your intern champion
i personally know someone that thought they were going to google
No
got into tm in like sept
u can get tm with no name
it's literally very random
@rocky zenith The best one was the kayaking stuff they did at the lake near mtv
I presented to my org
This is just a bad faith comparison
there's no tips other than make sure you have a well formatted resume, hope your recruiter is somewhat responsive, and pray
oh that sounds kinda fun
Yes
we're deciding between g and dd based off intern events?
no bruh this is a side point
no but seriously
No, but some people are saying that datadog CLEARS google
OP should go to google
the res value is unmmatched and u can go to datadog after google
Events and camaraderie*
Dawg what
Well they say datadog prioritizes DEI so if you factor that in I would put them at about equal.
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i'm not an undergrad lmao
Im of the opinion that google gaps but i also agree u cant make statements like that
I think you can
sure but as someone that has recruited for all kinds of places
Its called empirical data
i'm telling u kids, google is the right choice at least for internships
Based off your observations?
Yeah thats anecdotal data
is ddog rlly that good?
Please get your head in the books
Buddy we do not care abt ur opinion
it's good but not on the level of google
Are you dumb
i thought ddog was a tier beneath google, meta, flix
I said empirical data
Yes
Empirical data = objective data
Which is based off observations
it is
Oh word what are the objective facts then
Please google both terms and then come back to me
like ex-datadog does not hit the same as ex-google
Success and failure in recruiting
Sure but again its your experience only
No?
full-time is diff
You cant account for all other people
Ask people
You can gather enough data points to come to a conclusion..
Once again bad faith argument on your part
Just stop
If I survey 1000 people should I throw out all the data because its just their experience?
And its not objective?
No that would be good, but you didnt survey 1000 people
I've asked atleast 15 people and I keep asking
My data is scaling up
And its consistent with the previous conclusion
Because "datadog to google than it is from google to datadog" isnt something u can easily control for
i don't need levels bc i've seen a google offer
Explain why
in nyc it's $235K, almost ~$250K if u include relo
How many people have done google -> datadog, and how many have done vice-versa, with all other factors remaining constnat?
Cuz i made a typo bud it was the asme point
it's literally the standard ng offer lol for nyc/bay area
Theres some people in that pool who probably had weaker projects for example and some who had stronger projects
Regardless I gather a conclusion from that
Cool and thats reliable enough for u to generalize. I see
can't you do one of these in the offseason?
and why would datadog yield more quant procs compared to google
can't you land any quant proc if you are at google, meta, or a good bloomberg team?
don't get confused AD ppl are just yapping
What are the most prestigious tech companies? View crowdsourced rankings and share your opinions in head-to-head matchups.
dang lowkey prestige hunt is ass
ye amazon should be #1
Do not link ts ever again
sorry ok
google is way higher π
bro quoted levels π
might as well ask randoms on the street for their best educated guess if we're looking at that
literally lol
Recurring is just 20k difference
google has refreshers
and what's datadog's performance bonus?
bc google 2nd year is $213K
ppl are literally trying to ruin op's career in this thread
$20K diff is like a nice vacation every year
wait what
20k after tax is 10 and dividing that by 12, it's like 800 extra per month
it's more like $13k
which is $1.1k a month
Fax DD > js, oai, everyone
but still, google has better res value and pays a good amount more so why would someone go with datadog?
someone needs to make a thread nyc vs sf/bay
fwiw, i interned at datadog and met multiple full timers that took dd over google
STOP please
ddog for sure LMFAO
you can switch loc
i think international is harder, no?
within states is prob different than switching countries
Sure Google still clears
datadog and it's not even close, i heard there's a secret pipeline from dd to anthropic research
Really!?
he's joking
How do you know?
na im being so srs, dd has sm prestige it beats google easily and all the ai labs love prev dd ppl
Interesting
But how do you know that
He's being serious
I can confirm
know multiple researchers at anthropic that were prev crud @ datadog
must be the pipeline
Gosh.. I would love to work at deidog
why are there so many cappers
i don't think it's dumb to glaze datadog
so why are we just straight capping now
are you actually srs?
sure
^ye this dude is legit
nah the wording was specifically for datadog interns
Idgaf if u got reach out bruh that wasnβt my pointπ
They just want u to interview
whats ur point then
Sure bro they saving spots for u guys
ur coping.........
Grats on optiver homie
wait yea wtf
im not capping i legit talked to anthropic recruiters
ddog getting an optiver interview is insane
Bro I just found it funny he called me sped π
and they said "we highly value prev @ observability companies, like dd"
I donβt need to cope
yes u do
dd >>>> google, i would only take google deepmind over dd frontend
π Ok my apologies @next dove
This is true Iβm p sure, they had same thing for databricks too
But Google would get u thst as well
actually curious, do yk the rationale for this? like ik ddog has a lot of dist sys and infra work but i feel like optiver would prob want to reach out to interns from companies that focus on lower level systems work, no?
dude
why is this thread a thing
no way people actually think about going ddog over google π€£
ddog us vs google can
actual moron if you choose datadog over google
google canada prob still mogs dd pay lmao
datadog is like 190k then 160k recurring
then show the numbers lol
because i highly doubt theyre giving you a different number compared to everyone else
oh wait this guy is a dd intern
yeah dont consider what he has to say lmao
fortnite boss man vs James Lee
YOU
google vs datadog is a no brainer, unless your a moron that interned at dd
okay so your not delusional
you can transfer offices for google anyways
its not very hard and google would sponser
also datadog being a optiver pipeline is a joke
r u trolling
i hounestly cant tell
you are TROLLING the op bro
saying datadog is a optiver pipeline is actually a joke
show 5 people that went from datadog intern to optiver new grad
please
just 5
okay now show 5 people at optiver from datadog intern
^
show 5 people then
theres no pipeline if they dont get hired π
this thread actually has to be a joke

@thin sierra take google lmao ignore these trolls
let it run bro this is entertaining
stop trying to open more spots for you in team matching
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actually gotta be ragebait to say datadog over google π
Ion think anyone was debating that it was more so just the ability to get sponsor was his point
what does datadog have over google. Google is the equivalant of having harvard on your resume
you can go literally anywhere from google
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W bait
show me ur offer letter where your promised 210k then 190k recurring
cuz no one else got that
even then Google is more for US?
yeah lol
google is 245 fy now
for nyc
im pretty sure the guys a troll
Wait idk whoβs even ragebaiting anymore
lets go offer for offer
datadog to optiver pipeline bro
I thought it was cap too bro
even though theres no prev datadog interns at optiver rn
They all got interviews apparently
theres an established pipeline
this means two things, talent desnity is so bad that none of them passed
or it didnt happen
π First point can be true but dd still passed filter
Wait there were multiple people who said the same thing tho
π Bro tbf optiver class is tiny
Like the quant cohorts are usually very small
do you think optivers pass rate is over or under 0/100
ππ I canβt give a percentage but itβs prolly sub 0.01% from application to offer
do you think optiver would waste their time letting datadog people in process
if they end up at 0/100
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no but apparently they ALL got interviews
that means its 0/100 at interview stage
Yeah that is a fair point
also how does optiver keep spots for datadog interns
if they hired none of them π
"yeah bro we have spots saved for ddog interns eventhough we dont hire any of them"
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aren't you ragebaiting
no lol im just proving this dudes a moron
to say a company has spots saved to hire none of them is just idiotic
i think he just mispoke
i think what he's saying is that ddog is good enough to not get screened for optiver
even if it does pass the screens
theres no pipeline
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theres a pipeline to rejection it seems
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u just need to pass the interviews the moment you make it pass screen, no?
can we see the dm?
let me see the email big bro
please show me optiver explicity stating we're going to interview all the datadog interns to hire none of them π
cap π
yeah we're getting baited lmfao
why would optiver give interviews to a company that hires exclusively from GHC and colorstack
damn
thank you
i have been practicing the art of ragebait for a while
although i still dont believe theres a pipeline π
ngl bro if i ended up at datadog i would spend the whole summer grinding interview prep
im prev zon
ahaha
so i am credible
Bruh ignore this mf please π
the ragebait
fr zon on top
at least zon interns can pass interviews
i can't
you see plenty of zon to quants
i got a lc easy and still fucked it up
Mfs arguing with an account created today
u cant tell me
Yall getting rage baited hard
optiver sees u can pass this interview
and think ur ready for them
datadog is literally a bank of 10 questions of LC tagged
What is this
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real datadog interview question
Is this a joke?
nope im deadass lol
theyre interviews are literally set intersection π
want to bet money on it?
Why google mogs
ur signing bonus
this is why datadog is a joke lmao
hires only from colorstack and ghc to ask set intersection
Omg this again
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But this thread has run its course
This is an easy answer go with Google
ppl are just trolling
^
is it rly that easy to switch to the US
yes people switch from uk and stuff all the time
it can be done
Itβs not impossible
i think u go ddog here
canada to us is very easy
unless u can talk to someone who's actually made the move
my manager went from intern in Google China to Google us right after new grad
Google is the answer here donβt overthink it
^
theres one right answer and one wrong answer
and the right answer isnt optive pipline π
@lyric umbra why dont we bet ur singing bonus though?
we both know thats a quesiton in the bank
Itβs literally not bro π maybe itβs an OA but I promise u no one ik has been asked that
In an interview
I have datadog kids asking me for a referral every week
Thereβs a wrong answer here
the recruiters in my LinkedIn dms say differently
arent u incoming js
Bk I thought u were ngmi
n is silent for him or sum
Itβs 180k ppl rn actually
dudes comparing apples to oranges
like why on earth would google have a intern present to 180k people
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to like waffle and shi ykwim
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