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cold epoch
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c1

tall lynx
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JPMC honestly

shy drift
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JPMC

worldly yacht
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Jp has brand name for swe?

tall lynx
worldly yacht
tall lynx
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They’re both stepping stones for FAANG+ but jpmc feels more generally prestigious

naive rapids
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Don’t listen to these ngmi

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C1 has way more prestige in tech world

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Like jpmc is considerably worse

tulip sorrel
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c1 bruh

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most tech forward bank imo

prime trail
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JPMC easy

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JPMC is also insane feeder for faang

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If not better than c1

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Maybe

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But c1 has bad WLB ur gonna get PIPed

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Yeah search it up

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Up to u

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C1 obviously

cold epoch
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but the pip stuff is real

brazen parrot
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both banks have internal politics but it seems like jpmc will let you coast more compared to c1

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i think c1 has some kind of "bottom x% will get pipped" applying to anyone not in intern/newgrad position

naive rapids
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No its not

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C1 mogs

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Jpmc has nothing on c1

glacial pecan
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keep in mind c1 will also pay more than u think cause nyc is expensive

naive rapids
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C1 ro rate has been 80%+ every year

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Def easier to go from c1 to fintech than jpmc

brazen parrot
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i swear c1 always gets into some controversy about pipping
like this post which blew up on cscq 4 months ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/1mwqb6p/removed_by_moderator/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1

meager plover
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Go C1 lol

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idk how this is a debate

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aside from memes it's still good res value

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CSCD is heavily brainrotted against C1

cedar rapids
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c1, not even a hard choice ☠️ tdp is usually safe from pip

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by then u can just jump to another company

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C1

naive rapids
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There’s no way u believe jpmc feeds better than c1

elder ivy
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C1 has more aura than jpmc tbh and also right below faang in prestige

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U should make a poll @halcyon marsh

zealous ridge
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doesn't C1 have better tech stack and mentorship compared to JPMC?

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I'd pick C1 personally

elder ivy
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  • icon and then hit create a poll
vale yoke
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wait I thought c1 didn’t sponsor

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also idt this is true tbh ive seen this at like both

glacial pecan
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jmpc has RIF

reef kindle
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I’m at Jpmc, go c1

glacial pecan
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Honestly c1 internship and recruit for big tech when new grad, I have jpmc offer and plan on recruiting again cause banks r not rly where u wanna be at for ur early career

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I don't know how much jpmc feeds into tech companies but c1 def does, but idk if jpmc is not as good cause they hire less interns so less people r recruiting or if recruiters look at it differently

timber herald
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despite all memes,, c1

vale yoke
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I’ve seen more ppl go c1-> big tech vs jpmc

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As for stability idrk but they seemed relatively similar to me

vale yoke
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what’s their hc?

spark carbon
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i would go jpmc

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c1 only has shitty locations

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plus the difference in swe is basically the same

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and mentors there put more work into you

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if u care about ro too ur basically guaranteed one at chase plus chance of u getting fired is very very low

spark carbon
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ye

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in this job market

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only one is guaranteed ur coming back though

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i’ve actually never seen someone not get a return offer at chase

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no i reneg for amazon

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does it

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it’s not old

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already left

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chase is team dependent w ur tech stack

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my team used the same one as my team at amazon

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then i reneg

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almost

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i reneg a week before starting

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LOL

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ye i have a couple and interviewing still

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no

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columbus

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not really

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it’s faang vs a bank the choice is obvious

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ye

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my reasons r diff though

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chase i could actually be in california

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and i wouldn’t have to worry about ro

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idrc about pay diff that much

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plan is to move up

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never wanna be unemployed though fs

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blind says otherwise

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lol i just wouldn’t wanna be ft in virginia

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true

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gl

meager plover
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please go C1 OP 😂

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it was a mistake to put this as an intern debate in cscd

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as it may influence your judgement now

radiant oasis
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c1 obviously bruh

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jpmc not prestige

spark carbon
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c1 has no prestige either

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also thats not what op is even looking for

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"ro and wlb"

meager plover
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maybe it's a bit memed in cscd but cscd is a big bubble

spark carbon
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this is cope

meager plover
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c1 is recognized by recruiters and there's been many instances of c1 -> faang+

spark carbon
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prestige = faang adjacenet

meager plover
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no i didnt

spark carbon
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yes its a good company

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has no prestige

meager plover
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bro yes C1 is not as prestigious as faang

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but it's a better starting point and feeds into faang

spark carbon
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jpmc feeds into faang too

meager plover
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not as much as c1

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and c1 is more recognized for tech/swe

spark carbon
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its the same shit

meager plover
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Bro there was literally someone in this sevrer who went c1 -> db + imc this cycle

spark carbon
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so

meager plover
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@tulip sorrel lol he's literally in this thread

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so many people go c1 -> faang next year

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less so for jpmc

spark carbon
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u can do jpmc -> db -> imc

meager plover
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who has done it

spark carbon
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random anecdotes dont matter

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sure bro

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😭

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yes a random outlier matters

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listen

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op wants ro and wlb

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jpmc guarantees both

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and prestige is relatively the same

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yeah what this guy said

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if anything ur team matters more

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u wont know ur team for either

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jpmc ro is basiaclly 100%

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unless u try SA a co worker or sum

meager plover
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lol

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im psure op has faang aspirations

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i mean like who doesnt

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i know bro was in js final this cycle

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i think c1 is obvious choice

tulip sorrel
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just go c1 bro

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not even a debate

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unless ur tryna work at either full time

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C1 exit opportunities clear

vale yoke
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it’s all team dependent

meager plover
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@halcyon marsh assuming "decent" team at both. just go C1 bro

deft spire
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less so than jpmc prestige

glacial pecan
knotty oak
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they'll open the same exact doors this shits so pointless

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i think nyc vs mclean va matters much more than the "prestige"

deft spire
spark carbon
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in what world is there a big difference

spark carbon
knotty oak
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just saying the gap is very trivial

whole zephyr
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why was rag unironically saying jpmc over c1 💀

spark carbon
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imagine having to live in virginia

whole zephyr
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I mean if nyc is important then yea sure but saying c1 brand < jpmc in tech is crazy

spark carbon
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no one said that

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😭

whole zephyr
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Rag said that

spark carbon
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he just trolling

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everyone at c1 is ngmi tbh

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maybe he not wrong

whole zephyr
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jpmc a different level

vale yoke
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No im homeless

knotty oak
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what is there to do in mclean va

vale yoke
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there hella shi to do there tbh😭

vale yoke
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I forgotaboutdatdoe

knotty oak
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average day in mclean, virginia

vale yoke
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nonono

spark carbon
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most fun thing i did while interning there was taking a train to nyc for 4th of july

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shit ah state

vale yoke
spark carbon
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just not comparable to nyc

sleek flicker
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yeah isn’t the whole point of mclean to drive to dc

spark carbon
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exactly there’s nothing good about virginia

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dc is ok

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mediocre night life

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buying a house there is not gonna happen

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their houses r so small and ah

vale yoke
sleek flicker
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i lowk like dc, and it’s best feature is a train that takes you to nyc

celest pivot
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how this even a question, cfaang a thing for a reason

mental tusk
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every swe at JPMC i've talked to hates their life and wants to quit

sleek flicker
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c1 people are either working 20 hours a week or fired

tough grotto
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I think ur protected

sleek flicker
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fire

tough grotto
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I don’t know the dudes hate with dc

worn herald
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C1 100%

deep haven
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c1

knotty oak
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average mclean, va weekend plans

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average c1 intern night out in mclean, va

sleek flicker
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we gotta stop the DC hate

mental tusk
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shitty team shitty boss c tier citizen

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depends on the team ur on tho IG idk much about sell side swe but the people I know are working on some internal tooling for the finance ppl

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no

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i think they're averaging 50

glacial pecan
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for jpmc, it is def chill

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some of the newgrads i was talking to left at like 2p and the others at 4p

spark carbon
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my friends who interned there didn’t even work 40 yeah

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it’s team dependent like every company but usually very chill

fallow sandal
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anyone know what the JPMC new grad TC is ?

glacial pecan
lime dagger
fallow sandal
spark carbon
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its 220k

glacial pecan
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they call it JAFANG for reason

naive rapids
knotty oak
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times 2

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they just spent $3 billion on that building

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they can afford it

noble cosmos
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jpmc pays $200k now yea

sleek flicker
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if u IB bro not a lowely swe

noble cosmos
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no yea they upped to $220k for swe still $200k for ib

sleek flicker
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no shot JPMC is 220k

knotty oak
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it's 220k

knotty oak
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I mean I’d pick jpmc lmao

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Same prestige, ones in nyc ones in the middle of nowhere

sleek flicker
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for the love of god pick c1

brazen parrot
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pick google

knotty oak
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what's the point of posting this if u pass off anyone picking the choice u obviously don't want as trolling

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they look the same on a resume i'd pick the one in an actual city so i wouldn't kill myself of boredom

dense sentinel
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i live in the dmv area and mclean genuinely isnt that bad

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mclean itself is nice, but you're also quite close to dc, alexandria, arlington etc

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but with that being said its nothing close to nyc and personally id rather live in the nyc metro area, but mclean still isnt bad at all socially

spark carbon
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new chase office in nyc prolly cool too

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pick c1

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bet ill see you there

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nah im a return intern I chose chicago

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this summer did Plano

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very solid WLB. Fridays were really chill and are work from home.

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Didn't work after hours at all.

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I personally don't like NYC, too expensive, too many people, and I have family in chicago.

deep haven
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For the first week, they fly out all the interns to Richmond for networking and onboarding. Everything is paid for. Then again in mid-summer they fly out all the interns again to McLean to meet the CEO Richard Fairbank.

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# deep haven if you dont mind me asking, has the c1 name helped for recruiting this season

Im from a non-target school, so not much and its been quite difficult. I've mostly been stuck getting interviews in fintech. So far I've gotten Bloomberg (passed round 1, but decided not to proceed and just keep c1 because I really hate NYC), Visa offer, AMEX Final Round, GS Final Round, Roblox Interview (rejected), Palantir Phone (rejected), confluent OA, In proc with Intuit round 1

Ghosted by big tech (google, meta, apple, zon).

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But I am definitely getting more proc than before when I had 0 experience.

brazen parrot
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it definitely adds onto your resume, but you probably need to pair it with some other stuff

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one of my friends interned at c1 last summer, paired that with (competitive programming club officer) & (school "quant" fund [run by students lmao, not official at all]) and got a lot of quant processes

deep haven
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rn all i got are some projects and an ml internship from 2 years ago, so i definitely wanted to add to that with some research exp or an offseason internship

worn herald
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Dude C1 WLB is chill af

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I worked 9:30-2:30 in office 3 days/sk

worn herald
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McLean, I easily got return

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I worked the hardest of the 4 interns on my team with that schedule ngl

spark carbon
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yeah and then ft u get stack ranked and pipped for that schedule

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Interns aren’t stack ranked, they are split as yes return offer or no return offer

worn herald
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Idk the ft ppl on my team left before me too

spark carbon
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😭

spark carbon
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spark carbon
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and stability

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sybau peasant

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Why bro rage baiting

worn herald
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Yeah 😭

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1 legit made 1 git commit in 10 weeks

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And got the RO

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Like 1 TDP, 1 post TDP jr employee, the other teams I knew ppl on were similar

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C1 no one works and is pretty chill

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Pip culture is over exaggerated

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I think it’s bad on some teams but nah

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Nah I got better

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Small quant firm

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Definitely

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C1 is a great place to chill and coast

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Long term growth is kinda shit

dense sentinel
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J curious how competitive is ft ro for the nyc location?

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Like how much more competitive is it compared to like McLean or Richmond

worn herald
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It’s just like pay wise non existent

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Like intern Is just FT prorated, you earn that salary through TDP and get maybe like a 5-10% raise

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Like if u look on levels it’s like if you work for 7-8 yrs it’s unlikely you’ll break 200k

brazen parrot
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pick google
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last salmon
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C1

vale yoke
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R u inc google now?

halcyon marsh
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JPMC SWE vs Ca