also: if you don't necessarily lean a certain way but know more abt cartesia, pls reach out! that would be v helpful
#open ai vs. cartesia
potent shell
hollow pawn
define internal apps? doesn't sound the most interesting
potent shell
just working on a bunch of tools/dashboards/integrations seems like
which yes
does not sound v appealing lol
quartz iron
Cartesia
AI labs don’t care about name only what work/research u did
You won’t be doing any relevant work at oai from the looks of it
Go cartesia
quartz iron
Def can not move from internal apps to model building work
Very different work
Idk how internal movement works at ai labs but id assume you would need relevant exp to touch such an important part
karmic willow
Why not apply to a safety oriented lab
Far, Apollo, etc?
If ur getting cartesia/ openai they'd probably be interested as well
Ig tho these are better for early career name
Yeah id take cartesia here tbh I feel hands on ml experience is probably most relevant for you
potent shell
Why not apply to a safety oriented lab
fair but it's a bit too late atp, and wouldn't reneg obv
karmic willow
Im in a somewhat similar situation but am prob a few months grad after you seeing as you're August batch
Trying to get research as BS instead of swe oriented roles
I def think its easier to go from ml eng to research eng / scientist
is cartesia swe on an ml team? Or mle
potent shell
I def think its easier to go from ml eng to research eng / scientist
yea i think that's the conclusion i came to as well, just want a bit more confirmation to overcome friction of turning down oai
potent shell
is cartesia swe on an ml team? Or mle
pure ml
karmic willow
Hey tbh the openai team is a bit open to changing the loop
potent shell
wdym
karmic willow
They may ask you to interview ahain or take additional rounds
But someone i know last year
Got NG swe and requested to change to an ml oriented role
And then he had a different interview loop than others
potent shell
Got NG swe and requested to change to an ml oriented role
post-offer correct?
karmic willow
We only spoke briefly and I dont remember qho it is was, but maybe worth asking in your case
potent shell
Im in a somewhat similar situation but am prob a few months grad after you seein...
also gl to u2
lunar gate
cartesia mogs
silk lava
karmic willow
yes sort of. they are more adjacent terms but describing the difference feels like being that kid who's going "umm ackshually 🤓 "
basically alignment is the idea of aligning ai decision making and desires to the large goals and values of humanity.
safety is more to prevent the misuse and harmful outcomes of AI.
they have quite a bit of overlap but functionally appear in some different ways
alignment work may care more for policy, governance, interpretability
safety may care for these things as well but safety when applied looks more like guardrails, evals, jailbreaking
so i would say alignment is a broader holistic approach to solving and integrating ai with humans, whereas safety is more concerned with the short and long term risks of ai, and mitigating that
karmic willow
@potent shell is it cool if i dm u ? nws if not
potent shell
<@1211846269417558056> is it cool if i dm u ? nws if not
yea fs
verbal geode
Ngl if you’re cracked enough to get open ai and Cartesia as a new grad
It doesn’t matter where u go
Go with the one u like more
verbal geode
cartesia recruiter reached out idk if it's worth interviewing
it's worth it tbh
deep locust
i like my current spot 😭
recruiter quotes 260 base which is nice but unless equity is 150+ per year idk if it's worth
crisp cloud
cartesia recruiter reached out idk if it's worth interviewing
Are you already working in AI?
deep locust
no
dense spear
lunar gate
recruiter quotes 260 base which is nice but unless equity is 150+ per year idk i...
external or internal rec?
potent shell
recruiter quotes 260 base which is nice but unless equity is 150+ per year idk i...
yea eq is not that high
or at least for ng hire
verbal geode
@potent shell did u make a decision?
quartz iron
He took cartesia
verbal geode
He took cartesia
what 💀
quartz iron
Was the better choice for sure
Research >>>
Names don’t really matter for ai labs they care more about relevant exp and output
verbal geode
Either way cartesia over oai is kinda crazy ngl but whatevs
quartz iron
Its really not
Dev work at oai isn’t as relevant to his career vs research at a top ai lab
karmic willow
Names don’t really matter for ai labs they care more about relevant exp and outp...
ye
esp once u get into the realm of names that r respected
which cartesia def is
verbal geode
Dev work at oai isn’t as relevant to his career vs research at a top ai lab
uhh cartesia isn't a top ai lab. i think you're thinking of eleven labs
quartz iron
Huh
clever gale
gritty nacelle
crazy work...