#ramp v. databricks dds v. roblox

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tribal stag
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(if you figured out who I am please don't doxx me)

ramp in nyc, other two in bay area
TC 260 for all three, ramp/db equity very similar

considerations
converting from intern to ng at ramp, really like team at ramp
like new york much more than bay area/most friends in nyc

like low-level stuff at dbx a lot more than ramp work, think it will lead to better exits to big labs/trading firms/(chip design roles?)

not sure if I have enough commitment to stay anywhere for super long, so prefer fast IPO
lowkey don't like roblox much but stock + frontloaded vesting schedule is very nice

WLB doesn't matter much, ramp was a grind but fine grinding anywhere

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context = have never been in the bay but really disliked seattle

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not going to share comp breakdown but its about the same across ramp and db

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mtv

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is mtv that bad lol

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i have 0 read on how good ramp exit ops are lol. same with dbx tbh but they sound better

also don't know if it even makes sense to exit anytime super soon

ivory reef
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I’d guess databricks DDS has better exit opp

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but for nyc + returning intern I’d prob just go ramp especially if location matters a lot

deep star
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If tc is the same anywhere and u don’t want to stay long Roblox is a no brainer for liquidity

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Otherwise it seems like ramp suits u more than bricks

tribal stag
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just personally dont want to work there LOL

deep star
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Yea then I’d go ramp

tribal stag
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does the work you do matter more for exiting to HFTs or the name

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i've never played roblox 💀 im a valorant kinda guy

tribal stag
deep star
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Exiting to hfts is very hard post grad from what ik

tribal stag
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what about labs

deep star
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Idk

ripe trout
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?

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Roblox is def better than db and ramp

tribal stag
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i'm not as much after money in the short term tbh, trying to play the long game

deep star
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Its not like they’re choosing between like jpmc and oai

tribal stag
deep star
tribal stag
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thats fair i guess

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i think it comes down to p(good exit from dbx) - p(good exit from ramp) > happiness of living in nyc

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square to cit ? interesting..

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also would be interested in going to hardware but i dont even know what to do for that other than research (i dont have a CE/EE degree rip)

deep star
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The exception doesn’t make the rule, I wouldn’t make a decision based on the slim chance of exiting to a hft

fresh mirage
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roblox is 3 year vest no?

tribal stag
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but like would having dbx on the resume over ramp make that much of a difference

fresh mirage
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i feel like roblox stock is not paper cash

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compared to ramp and dbx

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take your 3 year vest

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and then fuck off

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lol

tribal stag
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like surely nyc presence + ramp is somewhat comparable to dbx?

fresh mirage
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i feel like ramp is so overrated ngl

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996, their shit is crud

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feelsl iek a stripe wrapper

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idk anything about ramp i never worked there

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but i use ramp at shopify

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and its buns ngl

tribal stag
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what is buns about it

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(curious, lowkey agree with you, our tech is kinda shit)

fresh mirage
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very unresponsive pages

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things hidden behind like 100 menus

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canada setup doesnt work lol

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they had to get some special canad setup

tribal stag
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okay so part of why i wanna take ramp is because my role is unshittifying that which i think has good leverage

fresh mirage
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its liek what

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yeah but like

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ramp is crud dude

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dbx prolly not crud

tribal stag
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agree i feel like i learned nothing all summer 💀

fresh mirage
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i dont think theres anything too unique about ramp

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in terms of tech

tribal stag
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dbx is like all c/c++/even lower level which I find interesting

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like i would want to be an industry expert at that kinda shit

fresh mirage
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dbx is NOT c/c++ bro

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its mostly scala

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theyre moving to java now

tribal stag
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on distributed systems ?

fresh mirage
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yes

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theyre majority scala

tribal stag
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my interviews were in c++ wth

fresh mirage
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theyre moving to java cz they cant hire enough scala devs

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maybe ur role is c++ specifically

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again never worked at dbx but i was at bfest and interviewed

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i feel like roblox and dbx are definitely

gray halo
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i read a blog that they use scala almost exactly like java tho no? like its not super fp-style

fresh mirage
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more technically intersting

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roblox is unique in the sense they have a huge paltform to work on

gray halo
fresh mirage
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their systems engineering def has to be pretty up there

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dbx huge data volume

tribal stag
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yes i feel like the syseng @ dbx dds clout is >> ramp

fresh mirage
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rmap ? wtf do they do other than crudding my 4000$ shopify stipend

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lmfao

tribal stag
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okok i get it you hate our systems im sorry LOL 😂

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but yes ramp engineering practice is questionable

fresh mirage
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nonono tahtsmore a joke

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i justthink

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ramp is not

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that technically intersting

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lol

tribal stag
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agree. just trying to decide if new york is worth it honestly

gray halo
ivory reef
fresh mirage
tribal stag
fresh mirage
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i mean im ex meta so no ones tooling is as good as i had it

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i heard roblox's infra is okay

gray halo
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friends prev interned, also likely joining them next summer

fresh mirage
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its a bit spaghetti code but its still like

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billion scale

tribal stag
fresh mirage
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and roblox's infra is mostly go

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some rs

fresh mirage
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u could always just take ramp

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and then leave after 3 years

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lol

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or however long their vesting is

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but is ramp stock even worth anything ?

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if

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bro everyone ipo baiting these days

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lmao

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if u were to go to ramp i would just ocnsider the rsu to be like

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0

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or 50% value

ivory reef
tribal stag
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ramp did raise 3 rounds this year

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and dilute 4.6%

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which

fresh mirage
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everyone raised 10 million rounds the last 2/3 years

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the lsat 2/3 years is not the right way o look at things

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money is literally worthless the last couple years

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so private equity is throwing money at everyone

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u need to look at the business fundamentals

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which u would know way more than me ngl

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i dont rlly think ramp is that unique or anything

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its justezier business expense no?

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waht sstopping someone else from coming in and doing the asme thing

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roblox has decades invested in their platform

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no one can jsut come and do that

tribal stag
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yeah, like ramp fucked brex over. wondering who will come next to fuck ramp

fresh mirage
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dbricks i dont really like their stock either ngl

violet coral
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@tribal stag were u able to just get db to match ur other offer? and did u just send proof of other offer / ask for negotiating? idk how negotiating works

tribal stag
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why are people so bearish on db IPO

fresh mirage
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it feels very tied to ai

tribal stag
fresh mirage
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db is ride or die on the ai wave

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if ai goes bust

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db is halfing

tribal stag
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i dont think ai is going bust

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i'm pretty bullish on openai

fresh mirage
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even though their platform fundamentally had nothing to do with ai before lol

tribal stag
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i mean yeah like the thing is dbx has a lot of systems engineering talent that's verstaile enough to do more than just AI

fresh mirage
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yes i agree

tribal stag
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like there are industry experts in there that regularly contribute to NSDI/OSDI/SOSP

fresh mirage
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i think roblox/db u will have more transferrable skill

tribal stag
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and have massive clout

fresh mirage
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for future

tribal stag
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yeah

fresh mirage
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/prestige etc

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ramp is ?

tribal stag
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but the counterpoint is you grind promos at ramp

fresh mirage
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like yes unicorn status

tribal stag
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and then retire to like staff+ at meta

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idk

fresh mirage
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but isnt your shit all in python at ramp

tribal stag
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yeah i mean

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i'm good at python i'm fine developing it as a spike

violet coral
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go db unless u rlly want nyc. roblox out of eq

tribal stag
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C++ primarily for HFT exit. i can do all the c++ i want in my free time 😂

fresh mirage
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are u from nyc

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or do u just lke it

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lol

gray halo
fresh mirage
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personally dont get the nyc hype i think id hate living there

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and its so expensive

tribal stag
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i like nyc

violet coral
tribal stag
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also like less even abt the hype just best friends living in nyc and much closer to family locationwise

fresh mirage
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i think this js comes down to personal choice yknow

tribal stag
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yeah

fresh mirage
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if u rlly like nyc

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then ramp

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if not then

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roblox or db both are fine idt u can pick wrong

tribal stag
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anyone have input on the dating scene in mountain view 💀

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sorry

fresh mirage
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its bad

tribal stag
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but mildly important

fresh mirage
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i was scrolling hinge while in mpk

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it was not fun

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also depends on ur ethnicity etc

violet coral
fresh mirage
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lol

tribal stag
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so i can dm you about it 😂

fresh mirage
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ok well ill answer u

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iff ure indian

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u r in for a rough time

tribal stag
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i mean yeah its mostly east asians right

fresh mirage
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the women? mostly chinese

tribal stag
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if you're indian just go to fremont surely

fresh mirage
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and chinese people only date chinese or white

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lol

tribal stag
violet coral
fresh mirage
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idk

violet coral
tribal stag
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anecdotally

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but not sure about bay area anecdotes

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just from HS/uni

fresh mirage
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ure form nyc right

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nyc is def more

tribal stag
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not from nyc but closer to east coast

fresh mirage
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"liberal"

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in that sense

tribal stag
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😂

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fair

fresh mirage
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bay area is pretty more

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"converntional"

tribal stag
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seen sooooo many windian and asiandian couples on subway

fresh mirage
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becuase alot more FOBs

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aamerican born asians probably care less

tribal stag
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yeah

fresh mirage
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if u were to choose bay

tribal stag
fresh mirage
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u could just pick roblox

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for short vest

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and then ure free

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after 3 years

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if ure dbx ure tied for 4 years

tribal stag
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i just feel a bit weird working at diddy company

fresh mirage
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or wtv their vesting is

tribal stag
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yeah its 4

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ramp is also 4

fresh mirage
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thats not a really good point

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ure an engie it doesnt really affect u

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meta did bad shit all the time

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didnt stop people form working there

tribal stag
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😂 true

ripe trout
ripe trout
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For ft?

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Actually yeah ramp > roblox >= db

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Roblox db same level

fast oracle
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@tribal stag do you know what promos r like at ramp?

tribal stag
graceful echo
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it’s db >> ramp = Roblox

ripe trout
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False

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Ramp is harder to break into, pays more, and has better location

graceful echo
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nyc is objectively worse than st

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Ramp is LC mediums

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also ramp pays peanuts

ripe trout
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All 3 have the same name

graceful echo
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thank you for your attention to this matter

ripe trout
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Yup lets see what percent of the discord is in the ramp vs db proc

graceful echo
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on a nontroll note though ramp definitely doesn’t pay more

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db l4 is insane

ripe trout
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Ramp senior is also 400+

graceful echo
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L4 is mid level

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db L5 is like 600 ish now re: levels

ripe trout
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Ramp leveling is ng to senior

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I dont see a swe 2

graceful echo
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621k rn

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Oh interesting

ripe trout
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Even on LinkedIn I don’t see people putting swe 2

graceful echo
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I don’t think anyone ever does tho lol

ripe trout
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Idk maybe they have one I have not seen it

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Promos are slow at db theres a backlog to make it to swe 2 rn

graceful echo
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L3 -> L4 is pretty fast

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L4 -> L5 is cancerthough

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also db does have a time limit as well so you kind of have to be promoted after x months lest you be fired

ripe trout
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Would it not be the same timeline as ramp then

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I agree though db has cooler work than ramp (hr platform)

graceful echo
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It’s not clear to me tha ramp senior == L4 at db but if it is I suppose the pay argument doesn’t make as much sense

ripe trout
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Also why are we sleeping on roblox its the same pay as both, equal name and most liquid

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Personally i think the opportunity to be balling out in nyc making 280+ as a ng at a top fintech is too much to pass up @tribal stag

tribal stag
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agreed, but really do value the work at db a lot

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think i was balling out a ton this summer (rip bank acct) but very unfulfilled work wise and might be harder to offset that full time

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when less time to have fun and more time to work

ripe trout
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Ok work won’t be unfulfilling at ramp

shadow seal
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ramp ipo has time, go db

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if ur really connected with ur ramp team, u can leave db after ipo and join ramp

graceful echo
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oh you’re dds at db

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bro you gotta go lol

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dds is literally their bread and butter

ripe trout
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Yeah if you really want to do cool work and dont care about loc than just go db

graceful echo
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I’m telling you bro you’re sleeping on Mountain View

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it’s a rave out here

ripe trout
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Its gonna be ass

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Source: bay area intern kid who def did not have as much fun as his nyc friends

violet coral
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like is commuting from sf to mtv everyday rlly that bad? 1hr via caltrain can’t be too bad?? (commuted daily from sea to bellevue (1hr) for intern before)

brazen zealot
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Ur gonna get tired of nyc in like 6 months trust me

graceful echo
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just live near the sf station or get an e scooter

ripe trout
graceful echo
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Express train takes 40 ish minutes. Db office is < 1 mile from mtv Caltrain station

ripe trout
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Also sf is just not comparable to brooklyn/manhattan

graceful echo
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I interned in new York twice. it gets boring fast

ripe trout
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Honestly I don’t know what doors wouldn’t be opened from company vs another

brazen zealot
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Nah he goes to school in northeast not ny

ripe trout
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All 3 are literally the same on res

brazen zealot
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Big alumni network in ny tho could be a plus

brazen zealot
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Like I just want a place to sit😭

tribal stag
tribal stag
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have friends working at goog and nearby should be ok to live in los altos or mtv

tribal stag
wide whale
wide whale
wide whale
tribal stag
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what would you pick then

wide whale
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i agree with spartacus in that i genuinely dont think it matters too much, rlly just down to ur top preferences

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if ur planning to leave quickly and want liquidity and location agnostic id go blox since public

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if u want rlly interesting and important work then maybe db (altho will prolly come at cost of wlb)

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all 3 will have great exit opps

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if u dont like bay then db and blox will be a nightmare

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oh yeah u said "like nyc much more than bay"

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id go ramp

tribal stag
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prios are like

exit chances to HFT/top labs
interesting work == location
comp/liquidity

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i have never lived in the bay, but didn't like seattle much (primarily just hard to make friends, its ok once you get a friend group). nyc was p good

wide whale
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i think u have solid exit chance to hft from all 3

tribal stag
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wlb doesn't matter i'm gonna aim to grind 55/60h anywhere

wide whale
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someone said above that it's super hard but idt that's true

tribal stag
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agreed

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i want to kinda spike in the lowlevel industry tho (does this exist)

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also there is some consideration about california poker scene

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LOL

wide whale
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how long would u plan to stay b4 leaving

graceful echo
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is it better or worse

tribal stag
# wide whale how long would u plan to stay b4 leaving

dbx: one promo. if i think IPO comes within a year then can add on another year
ramp: two promos, if IPO doesn't look to be in sight within a year of that then I'll leave, or if promo 1 takes me past one year then i'll leave after just 1
roblox: one promo // ??? until i can liquidate enough i guess

ripe trout
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I would not bank a decision on a potential ipo that may/may not happen

wide whale
tribal stag
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which kinda hammers in the point that I really do just prioritize work that's interesting and a bit of comp

tribal stag
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surely they're chill...

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(i like raving too)

wide whale
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oh i mean maybe if ur friends are all work friends it's not that hard

tribal stag
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but like outside of that its hard to meet people you mean?

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fair

wide whale
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but most ppl who work in the bay are also from the bay

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the avg bay area mf schedule is: wake up -> go to work -> come home -> waffle at home or smth -> sleep

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i mean nothing wrong with it but obv u cant make friends with ppl who never leave the house

tribal stag
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the avg ramp schedule i had this summer was
wake up -> go to work -> go out with friends -> come back to work -> go home -> pm (2am more like) routine and go sleep

cc any ramp applicants

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like 4/5 days a week

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and then weekends is basically just social activity and when downtime go grind at the office

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which is fun for a summer but idek if thats sustainable

wide whale
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which part not sustainable? the grinding?

tribal stag
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grinding and going out constantly

tribal stag
wide whale
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hmm ic, if the grinding will take prio over social life then bay is perfect

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prolly the best tech location to grind

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u can check this out to see ppl's exits

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look at each of these 3 companies' exits to say oai/anthro/js/hrt

tribal stag
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like the reason theres a good rave scene is bc its tech bros who grind and then do shrooms once a month right 😂

tribal stag
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nyc poker scene is p bad

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and no amateur pros

flint cloud
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@tribal stag what are you choosing

tribal stag
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might just become an influencer at this point

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cs is too hard

flint cloud
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bro 😭

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come to the bay

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you'll love it there

fast oracle
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@tribal stag dm me

wide whale
magic jackal
wide whale
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im not sure lol ive just seen it shared b4

graceful echo
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i like the Bay Area

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/ suburbs

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i grew up there so

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sure

grand mauve
scenic basin
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whend u get db offer?

tribal stag
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a few weeks back

jolly tusk
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Plus I think theres decent places you just gotta be in the know

bitter ocean
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ramp is going to ipo soon

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like probably within the next few months or early 2026

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databricks very unclear when they decide to ipo

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roblox is already public so the $260K TC is actually $260K

tribal stag
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where are you hearing this

bitter ocean
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if you more money then go with roblox

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if you want prestige while still making lots of money go to databricks

tribal stag
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whats ur inside info

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the c suite?

bitter ocean
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i can't just reveal my sources but ramp raised their series F like 2 months after their series E

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they're looking to ipo according to some ppl i know working there

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sooner rather than later

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that said i wouldn't go to ramp in this situation

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well ignorning location

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but if being in nyc means a good amount to you

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go to ramp

ripe trout
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NYC lowk once in a lifetime opportunity

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Imo

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Pretty hard to transfer there and there that many high paying tech companies

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Making 280k as a ng in NYC is a crazy opportunity don’t fumble it

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Go Ramp

tribal stag
tribal stag
keen void
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why does ramp pay so much

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for a crud company

bitter ocean
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they don't? a lot of the comp is stock which isn't completely liquid

tribal stag
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i think ur perception's wrong lol

wide whale
ripe trout
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Someone i know who got offer said pay band is 260-300 for ng

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Bananas

bitter ocean
ripe trout
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I think its 160 base

wide whale
ripe trout
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Idk maybe

tribal stag
ripe trout
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I dont know how they do nego or offer letters

bitter ocean
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nice what's the base

tribal stag
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v low

ripe trout
bitter ocean
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liquidity for ramp is ok

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they're going to ipo soon apparently anyway

ripe trout
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Ramp also hires the least of the 3

bitter ocean
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unless brex comes for ramp's ass

tribal stag
tribal stag
bitter ocean
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bro just share the fucking salary

tribal stag
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money is not the concern lol. trying to optimize for exits

ripe trout
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Well i think for exits they would all be the same

bitter ocean
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then go to databricks my guy

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why isn't anyone talking about roblox?

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it's already public

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i actually can't believe roblox is nearly a $100 billion company

ripe trout
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What exits would dbx give over Roblox or ramp

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It’s all going to all be the same

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They all have the same prestige

bitter ocean
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nah databricks is more prestigious

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then prob roblox

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ramp last

fresh mirage
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roblox tech is pretyy good

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esp if you end up on the platofrm teams

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no one really does what they do

bitter ocean
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@tribal stag why is roblox out of the conversation?

tribal stag
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not super interested. only team that would be fun for me would be engine and i don't fancy doing game dev/graphics work as a job. its a hobby of mine but i think turning hobbies -> work is generally not a good idea

bitter ocean
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ok good luck at databricks then

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you'll have fun there

tame ingot
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?? you’re also locked into nyc if you stay @ ramp

ripe trout
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You can always go back to sf

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Easier to go from nyc to sf than vice versa

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Like way easier

gray halo
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curious abt what u liked about south bay? going to be interning there for like 8 months straight and ive only heard negative things so far so it'd be nice to hear smth positive LOL

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gotcha, ty for the insight and im very interested to see how much i end up liking it

keen void
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car is mandatory

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buses r useless

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u can’t even get groceries without a car

fresh mirage
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roblox is right beaude

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so is db

keen void
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it’s 20 min walk

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after an hour caltrain

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roblox is right next to it

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dbx is not

fresh mirage
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oh yeah

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thats true

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the sunnyvale office looks very nice

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one of my meta buddies hqd corporate housing there

keen void
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?

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mountain view way better

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sunnyvale is apple + india

wide whale
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bro said whole foods 😭

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do u think all of south bay is p ass in general?

keen void
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some places r good

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the rich places

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it’s just boujee

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it’s not like that constant movement in nyc

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mid food is crazy

wide whale
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mid food 😭

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yeah cant even disagree tho tbh

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i recall one restaurant ive been to i think that was exceptional

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but it fell off

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and now it's mid 💀

tribal stag
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oh man

wide whale
tribal stag
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im a fatass i need to be hitting 7 new restaurants a week like i was in nyc 😭

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help

wide whale
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yeah bay is prolly cooked

tribal stag
keen void
tribal stag
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grind the fuck out

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and climb and go to hot pot

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maybe i just grind poker and drive to LA every month

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🤷

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npc

wide whale
tribal stag
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is the entire world just about grinding

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nyc grind is just glamorous grind tbh

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ramp grind just brings aura with it

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yeah

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its still a grind tho

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just u go get hammered w team after

wide whale
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tuff what do i do for fun here

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any alternatives

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im cooked

tribal stag
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yeah this is

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challenging

bitter ocean
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what did u decide @tribal stag

tribal stag
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ill lyk dw

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atp might just have to switch sexualities

grand mauve
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also it was e-2 not f

bitter ocean
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when do u estimate ramp going for ipo?

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my sources said they were gonna file

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at end of summer

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but i'm expecting filing to come around dec

grand mauve
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it depends on other stuff, not a time thing

bitter ocean
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u work at ramp?

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nice

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happy ipo next summer

grand mauve
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loll

bitter ocean
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what

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well not necessarily

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databricks, stripe, ramp, etc.

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i think are worth choosing

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i just don't think someone should choose some random paper money unicorn startup

grand mauve
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gotta gamble 🙂

bitter ocean
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nah that's bullshit

keen void
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my dad worked at a startup that was just "paper money" took a big pay cut

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got acquired for 450 million

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u take risks if the product is good

bitter ocean
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how much did he make

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from the acquisition

keen void
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enough that he could retire

bitter ocean
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sick

keen void
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actually idk

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indian parents dont disclose

bitter ocean
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but we in a bubble

keen void
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financial independence

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to their kids

keen void
bitter ocean
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6 years ago wasn't a bubble

keen void
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that same founder started a new company

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and i am interening there now

bitter ocean
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there are companies raising at a $500 mill valuation at seed haha

keen void
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i am debating about that FT also

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i am not figma

bitter ocean
keen void
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i mean

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he works there too 💀

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but the entire company is like

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hires from friends

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and family

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atleast the interns

bitter ocean
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dylan field didn't start a company before if i remember correctly?

keen void
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almost everyone there has worked with the founder in some previous exp

bitter ocean
keen void
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the proudct is good

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still very early stage but

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if i go FT there

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i only get like

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100k base

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  • equity idk how much
bitter ocean
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rip

keen void
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wont be that much

bitter ocean
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what other your other options @syndicate?

keen void
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aws

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interviewing

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bb and abridge

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bb is my goal

bitter ocean
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yea go to aws

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or bb

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well i already told u that

keen void
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yes

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u asked

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my options

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lmao

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i would do unspeakable things for bloomberg

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i feel bad for my boy

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he shared the link with me

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yes

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unforunately

keen void
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no showed

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next phone screen a month away

bitter ocean
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bb is overrated

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sorry i'm a bloomberg hater

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good luck

keen void
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if bloomberg was in like

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chicago

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no one would care sa much

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the nyc hype is real

bitter ocean
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i get it

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it's nyc

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yea nyc is nice

keen void
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guarantee

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half these companies

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if they were not in nyc

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people would not care abt them

bitter ocean
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@slow ether aren't u going for quant

keen void
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this server creams at the sound of nyc

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u shouldve seen last summer how much meta nyc

bitter ocean
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@slow ether well u also have amazon return right

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oh where did u intern before

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yea bbg is literally just bc of stability + wlb + nyc

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every big tech company has pipelines to qt

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oh u got this

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good luck

shadow seal
# keen void yes

didnt u have hubspot fall?? if i remmeber or was that someone else

keen void
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got rejected

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got cooked in the sys deisgn

shadow seal
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alr

bitter ocean
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tf

keen void
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this was for intern

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💀

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hubspot likes to be cool

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and ask interns sys design

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fucking design netflix

bitter ocean
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that's so fucked damn

cold chasm