!process meta ro rej (metrics in thread)

[full gate]

• 23k+ sloc
• 120+ diffs
• 2 projects completed
• positive feed submitted by all members of team, manager submitted "GE" (highest rating) to calibration
• commendment from our pillar's e8 in my calibration feedback
• ranked 1/11 of interns in cohort on impact metrics
• ranked 4th of FTEs in my pillar on impact metrics

[fallen wraith]

How tf

[tribal peak]

reject because you choose better offer ?

[echo agate]

no ro or ur rejecting the ro?

[white breach]

nah shit's actually fuckd

they cooked a demo and a bunch of ppl got reject

[strong tiger]

what could possibly be the reason lol

[white breach]

arya is literally as close u can get to a #1 intern bro

[sonic geyser]

U think it’s bc of the demo?

That’s reality labs no?

[jovial zephyr]

team/org no headcount?

[lyric stirrup]

lowkey #1 intern in the company

[white breach]

ye

[sonic geyser]

Meta is cooked

[white breach]

but some ppl were getting rejected before it

with good ratings

[white breach]

ye lol

my reject lowkey coming soon tbh

but my org is completely unrelated

[full gate]

no RO @tribal peak @echo agate

[tribal peak]

really ?

wwtf they reject the best one ?

[echo agate]

thats absurd

[white breach]

watch penguinz0's video on it

they royally fucked up

[tribal peak]

i dont believe :))) this is not 1st April

[chilly rock]

how is it only you

[full gate]

• mentor said i was the best intern he had across all companies
• both manager and mentor offered to write letter of recs for PHD programs
• the commendment from e8 was literally "i would like to have this intern back"

[sonic geyser]

Bro meta stock is almost ath and rate cuts

[full gate]

• org: ads x ml

[sonic geyser]

This gotta be something behind the scenes

[lyric stirrup]

wtf

orz

[grim stirrup]

meta yield protecting ig

[white breach]

idk what's happening tbh

im just making assumpitons

like im not sure how i haven't gotten reject yet

[vernal lichen]

lol wtf no one really cares about a demo fuck up

[full gate]

• loc: MPK
• start date: 6/23
• expect ft start date: june 2026

[vernal lichen]

how is that affecting ur ro @white breach 💀

[full gate]

all the datapoints i have. not sure why i got rejected

but i did everything in my power from a performance perspective. its whatever

[vernal lichen]

yea u got fucked @full gate

[full gate]

happens

[vernal lichen]

u did 10x more than most e3s in one half

lol

[white breach]

idek im in a completely unrelated org

[tribal peak]

do you have a call with recruiter

are there any mistake ?

[full gate]

no i got a reject email today

[white breach]

im literally making assumptions dont believe anything i say

[vernal lichen]

literally no one cares about this demo

[full gate]

however i am not rejected on the portal, but that will probably change by EOD

[haughty barn]

Try following up with manager and stuff

[vernal lichen]

ads ml
org is fucked

need to be infra

[upper drum]

that's wild, doesn't even make sense to rej even with layoffs/low hc

[haughty barn]

I don’t think meta does RO based on the number of spots available on the team, given that you’ll probably be reorg when joining as a new grad

[vernal lichen]

i know e3s who have done 2k sloc and 15 diffs and are still around

this is a travesty

[full gate]

they dont give feedback but i BEGGED for feedback at every conversation with team, including final conversation

they had no feedback ever except that i should eat lunch with team more often (usually i worked during lunch or didnt eat lunch)

to get actionable feedback, i had to pull up the e4 performance axis and have my mentor/peer compare me to that, not the intern/e3 axis.

[vernal lichen]

LMFAOOOOO

[tribal peak]

true, based on total head count

[vernal lichen]

LUNCH?

[full gate]

yeah was literally the only constructive feedback the entire internship that wasn't a really handwavey "continue what you're doing now"

[vernal lichen]

this is the worst kind of feedback

[tribal peak]

so dont know :v

[full gate]

4 out of my 5 axis at midpoint review literally concluded with "moving forward, please continue with the skills you have been demonstrating thus far"

[chilly rock]

did you work weekends too

[full gate]

yes

[floral mango]

this is not possible

i dont believe it

[full gate]

5th axes btw was "lets work together to brainstorm more opportunities for you to create impact out of our team"

[white breach]

this usually should be fine but like there's always something to have feedback of tbh

[floral mango]

fucking netflix now meta?????????????

[somber holly]

Phd or undergrad?

[vernal lichen]

most e3s dont do 23k sloc in 1.5 years ☠️

[full gate]

undegrad

BS

last year

[full gate]

yeah but it was because midpoint is strictly vs e3 axis

[white breach]

no fr

[vernal lichen]

i think u got fucked by ur org @full gate

[white breach]

u were performing like crazy

[vernal lichen]

notorious org

[white breach]

how tf did u get cooked

[full gate]

yeah probably

another person in ads got rej today

but they were MA so idk

[white breach]

i legit cant process this like being fr

[vernal lichen]

the best teams are infra

low expec

tations

[full gate]

yeah all my infra friend got ro lol

altho they sweated

they earned it

[modern wave]

it’s also market bro look at figma

[somber holly]

What org?

[full gate]

ads x ml

[chilly rock]

i mean you sweated too

you guys all earned it

shit happens though

[white breach]

the jobs market is doing ass but legit ma ppl r getting ro

[full gate]

yeah i did i just meant that they didnt get it just because they were in infra

shit sucks 💔

[white breach]

while ee/ge r getting rejected

like how does this make any sesne

[haughty barn]

Ya plus high impact since infra touches across orgs

[full gate]

deadass? ;sob

dont play w me bro

i cant take it

[modern wave]

were u in her org?

[vernal lichen]

Stable

[full gate]

we mightve been same cohort

[modern wave]

could be literal hiring discrimination

im not kidding

[full gate]

oh yeah there were some issues between my IM and ID about me being transgender

but idk if they would lead to this. lol

hard to convince 10+ people that i dont deserve RO based on metrics alone

[vernal lichen]

org or discriminate

pick ur poison

💔

[haughty barn]

That’s so fucked sorry

[full gate]

nah i mean, idek if its that

but in the end i dont have RO for whatever reason

nothing to do but lock in

[white breach]

im like really sorry about this you deserve way better

[full gate]

8/29 end of calib, 9/12 last day

[white breach]

you genuinely gave me good advice throughout this summer like i legitimately feel really bad @full gate

[full gate]

its okay, i hope you get ro kdas

lol 3 different interns mentioned me by name in their final self reflection btw @vernal lichen

for mentoring them

during the internship

[floral mango]

dude what the fuck

ur not kidding

what the fuck

[full gate]

yup

[floral mango]

awww hell nah

shit is so gooched bro

what the fuck

bro i'm so sorry

u deserve better

[vivid herald]

bro wtf

im sorry bruh @full gate

why tf

what is meta doing

[full gate]

its cool

a lot of my boys got ro

happy about that

[vivid herald]

shit makes actually no sense

opaque ass company

[floral mango]

no this is actually bullshit bro

[empty crater]

i’m so laid off

[floral mango]

if ge ==> u should get ro

[velvet citrus]

WTF

[floral mango]

like deadass u shld be taking other people's spots

[empty crater]

if GE not ro

[floral mango]

that are ngmi

[full gate]

u should be fine

i think this prob has to do with org

[white breach]

i would legitimately give my spot to arya if i get ro that's how good she did

[floral mango]

what was the org again i forgot

[full gate]

ads ml

which is surprising, right?

[floral mango]

ohhh wtf

[full gate]

that org represents 98% of metas revenue atm

[empty crater]

yeah ads is a cancer to all american work culture

sorry bruh

[vivid herald]

is non msl ai on a hiring freeze??

[queen ferry]

is msl on hiring freeze?

[white breach]

idk ppl in my cohort were non msl ai and got ro alr

but this was before the demo shit

[vivid herald]

ngl i wouldn't put it past meta to rescind ro as well

i doubt anyone is safe

[white breach]

ye tbh

even if i get ro im getting another offer this isn't safe

[iron lynx]

what happened at demo?

[haughty barn]

It’s definitely not cause of the demo lmfao

[haughty barn]

They like messed up some of the live demos with the ai glasses

[sullen smelt]

I find this all very hard to believe

[calm prairie]

had flix ro dude! afaik that was by choice, also this is way too fucked. i cant process this shit

[floral mango]

intern not ng and bit more lore aside from that which is up to arya to disclose

or j go thru her message history

[timid gull]

keep ur head up @full gate , their loss

[prime cairn]

is there not a way to contest this? if you reach out to manager/mentor/etc. and bring up some of these metrics and ask for specific feedback

[fading veldt]

Yea how does this even make sense

How did u get fucked so bad

[simple mural]

bruh what

[full gate]

tyty

[simple mural]

do they do hiring discrimination???

wtfff

crazy shi bruh thats fked

[past latch]

that's tragic bro

[full gate]

sorry i cant show ss since im no longer access to meta internsl but ican tag a few people who interned with me if you wanna verify metrics

[lyric stirrup]

yup its real

[simple mural]

did u do or say something diabolical during internship

is this troll

[full gate]

nah i didnt

i was very normal and my team was really cool

[modern wave]

nah prob discrimination or smth

[full gate]

manager said this

mentor*

[lyric stirrup]

i was on week 10 and arya gapped me on her third week

[full gate]

mentor said this

[lyric stirrup]

🥀

[past latch]

genuinely tragic

[acoustic marsh]

Tuff

[past latch]

like what do u do at that point

if u get perf review

what more r u supposed to do

[full gate]

@sullen smelt @finite spoke in case this helps reinforce the story, there is nothing missing

[past latch]

that's just unfortunate

[acoustic marsh]

It’s prolly Zuck hc reasons out of interns control

[sullen smelt]

Damn that sucks

[prime cairn]

Wtf

[sullen smelt]

So RO confirmed by org

[echo agate]

ur org was ads?

[calm prairie]

meta yeilded and now this sign for OpenAI

[white breach]

fr

[full gate]

yep

[simple mural]

is this swe intern?

or some other role

[white breach]

swe intern bro

[prime cairn]

Unironically this seems like it may have been discrimination

[simple mural]

huh

bruh

who the recruiter

[modern wave]

i’ve been saying this

the moment i heard

[full gate]

idk EXACTLY the org name but we were working on ads. the team was ML Platform Intelligence, got renamed to REA 1P Agents (where R stands for ranking --> ranking implies ads models if im not mistaken. also the models we worked aroundered were evaled on datapoints like ad click through rate and conversion rate, so definitely ads)

HT

[simple mural]

bro how are they doing this like so blatantly

[sullen smelt]

Fr

[barren mica]

I feel like you should ask someone internally to escalate the issue? It doesn’t make much sense

[sullen smelt]

Hella MA people got it

[simple mural]

wait like

i dont think its

[lyric stirrup]

arya the best intern ik

[simple mural]

recruiter's power no?

[sullen smelt]

I think its by org

[simple mural]

its like the hiring higher ups

[sullen smelt]

If org has headcount

Unless meta doesn’t fuck with lgbt like that

[simple mural]

why does that matter

u returned to random teams anw

huh

[modern wave]

i think they’re going hard for donald trump to kill tiktok

[past latch]

it has to be org

[sullen smelt]

U go back to org

[modern wave]

i honestly think it’s that

ppl in her org w worse metrics got RO tho

[simple mural]

fuck bro idk then

[past latch]

i didnt even intern at meta

but u have my sympathy

that genuinely sucks

[simple mural]

bro

[modern wave]

it’s hiring discrimination

[simple mural]

ads is such a big org man

its not by org dawg

[modern wave]

y’all don’t understand prejudice is actually everywhere

[simple mural]

if mf in whatsapp can get it

[strong tiger]

this gotta be yield protection lol

[modern wave]

i was undercover straight for 21 years bro when i tell u hatred is so common

[simple mural]

shi i feel u bro

fking tough

fk

bro this is actually fked bro

[full gate]

hmm i dont know that this is worth the energy

i dont think it;ll overturn my decision

[crisp raft]

isnt meta pretty much hunger games internally? feel like it would be hard to get someone who’s willing to put their job on the line 💀

[full gate]

and im not gonna sue meta either

so its just ocoked

same i only know ads rejects haha

all the people who got offer were not in ads.

most were in infra

[modern wave]

another alternative is that meta is seeking bodies/pip fodder and someone saw arya and felt threatened

[worthy girder]

You are PE or Swe？that’s carzy…

[full gate]

nah this year its org

SWE

[prime cairn]

isn’t ads their main thing tho?!

[full gate]

yep

it is

[white breach]

infra pillar?

[full gate]

yep

[white breach]

jj got ro

[full gate]

2 of my UW friends got RO today, both were infra

[simple mural]

whats the source of info, curious

[modern wave]

not even kidding

[full gate]

ml for ads

research tooling for evaluation of ads ranking models

probably one of the teams meta cares about the most 💀

[white breach]

ye monetization

[graceful grove]

unfortunate man

[full gate]

nah i simply did a lot

like 60+h/week

[graceful grove]

some weird politics shit fs

[full gate]

on top of also having a pretty loc heavy project

but it wasnt simple, i was basically biulding out entirely new systems for agent facilitation

[modern wave]

it's either hire to fire, u got caught in internal politics, or discrimination

[modern wave]

idek what this means bruh

[full gate]

maybe

altho it was normal on my team

my manager ships diffs on weekends and at like 10pm

they have meetings at 8, etc

[white breach]

hella ppl were grinding the internship tbh

[modern wave]

meta just hiring ngs as pip fodder

[white breach]

i think one week i had 60 hours but i lowkey started not trying after that

[modern wave]

@full gate isn't it 15% or 20% get fired every 6 months or smth

[full gate]

lol i have a screenshot somewhere of my manager stamping my diff at 12am

[full gate]

15

yeah

bottom 15 tho

XD

guess im bottom 15% bro

[white breach]

my monetization xfn was working weekends lmfao

[modern wave]

15% getting fired every 6 months is absurd

[full gate]

what a waste of my summer man

[modern wave]

weren't u literally number 1

on metrics

[full gate]

yeah

[modern wave]

u said of everyone in ur org u were 5/700 including like e6+

@full gate did anyone dislike ur manager

[full gate]

i atually got to 4/700 before calib ended

nah he's a liked guy, has been at meta for like 7 years or smth too

[modern wave]

u threatened them

that's what it was

[full gate]

he's just a very business business guy

[white breach]

i think the internship is super grindy ft is still grindy but it's better

[lyric stirrup]

ur too good for meta anyway

[crisp raft]

Wild😭😭😭

i believe that tho

[full gate]

im not sure, my manager said that the intern director was "astounded" by the code output, esp in the context of org

[modern wave]

yeah that's the thing bro, 15% firing every 6 months is too quick of a cadence, u can just be unlucky in that 6 month period

[full gate]

genuinely every sign available pointd to ro lol

[modern wave]

they don't want ppl above them

[graceful grove]

@full gate i probably missed, what was ur rating again

[full gate]

its all good, no path but forward

[prime cairn]

yeah u could prob pull openAI or smth, would be better than meta by far anyways

[full gate]

at least EE. my team submitted GE but i am not privy to final results

[modern wave]

15% fired every 6 months is absolutely fucking incomprehensible @full gate i can't even wrap my head around that, citadel isn't even anything close to that except maybe for traders in certain businesses

[full gate]

lol yeah pretty crazy

im not sure if its 6 months or 1 year but

it might be 6

and the number is def 15

[graceful grove]

yea seems like some weird hc shit fucked u over

[full gate]

which is absurd in both

[graceful grove]

its cool u clear meta either way ngl

[modern wave]

@full gate did other interns in ur calibration get a return offer

[full gate]

bottom 15% performing engs

[lyric stirrup]

its 5%

[full gate]

yep, multiple

oh its 5%? @lyric stirrup

damn wtf

[lyric stirrup]

yea

[modern wave]

5% get fired? every 6 months

ok that's more digestible

[full gate]

yeah they do

[modern wave]

probably citadel cadence

[full gate]

meta intern disc

half of the info is hearsay which is why incorrectness on specifics

but its not so generally incorrect

they do chop a bottom x% every half year

[modern wave]

ROs are so fucking cooked this year though what the hell

[graceful grove]

i feel like overall a bunch of people are just getting screwed at all companies

[white breach]

ye the economy is ass

[graceful grove]

nvidia and intel decide to team up as im negotiating amd stock options

[empty sequoia]

Damn ts cooked💀

[graceful grove]

its all cooked bro

[empty sequoia]

Crazy how ppl can act like this

[white breach]

idek tbh

[full gate]

i have no more datapoints and the ss of my mentors reply is there

i can uncrop it if u wanna see my msg to him

[prime cairn]

if u survive there for long enough its very lucrative

[crude adder]

damn sorry to hear

[empty sequoia]

I dont think it will make much of a difference, hiring committee decisions are final

[full gate]

it would just be a lot of effort ngl

to file a lawsuit

i thought on it

one of my close friends has experience with sicking legal on a diff company for a somewhat adjacent situation with some success

[vivid herald]

yea also it's so unclear that u can't pinpoint exactly what it is

[full gate]

but i dont think i can replicate, their situation was much more extreme

[vivid herald]

with irrefutable proof

but that's so fucked

[crude adder]

could it be because of mentioning interest in phd?

[modern wave]

@full gate i agree but ngl if it's open and shut hiring discrimination or someone fucked up and said anything remotely bad in slack they will scramble to settle pre-filing

and note meta is facing a very high profile exec level discrimination lawsuit rn

[empty crater]

suing one company won’t disqualify u for jobs in the future lol

[modern wave]

that is going to trial

[modern wave]

at the intern level it might lol it looks litigious

[full gate]

maybe but i doubt they documented in that anywhere in calibration

it was during into i mentioned offhandedly to my team i liked our team because i was into research and was thinking of phd

and that was rly the only conversation on it

they volunteered letter of recs at the end

[acoustic marsh]

were u ideally tryna come back or no

[modern wave]

y'all just to be transparent i am this friend and the company was figma, but i was issuing legal threats to avoid being fired not to get RO, and firing me would have been open and shut wrongful termination imho

[full gate]

ads

lol all good. im hoping the best for all of you

[modern wave]

suing for an RO is probably impossible tbh unless ur a pitbull and willing to take things deep into discovery

[full gate]

if im rejected atleast someone else has a spot. i'll be fine

im too goated to go out like this

[full gate]

ideally nah

but realistically maybe

it was just job security

ideal was research scientist ft.

[modern wave]

@full gate this is ur figma incident like oilbob's goldman theory

[full gate]

or engineer

[full gate]

genuinely all the goats got cooked at one point

oilbob got cooked at multiple points 💀

def not 💀

if i sue a company and then go work there

i look like a bitch i cant lie

my ego would never recover

[candid dawn]

suing them ? 😭

[full gate]

its not worth to sue anyways i dont have a case

they just decided they dont me to return

they didnt owe me one so i dont have a case

[dawn kernel]

this is what I was concerned abt after reading first glance ur performance was exceptional but was your office politics on par

[full gate]

yeah it was fine. my team wasnt that politics heavy internally

everyone was extremely blunt and open

and in terms of getting support from other places, our pillars golden child e8 explicitly asked that i return

both peers, skip, and im gave glowing feedback

[dawn kernel]

yea ig but like meta is can u balance sucking dick and doing decent

[modern wave]

this was peak figma when i realized i was in deep deep deep shit and my only out was a citadel RO idk why his message inspired me so much, 6 months later i got it. arya let this be ur post goldman mid figma incident where u move onto way better

[full gate]

yeah it could be, it has happened to me before

[empty crater]

do you like slaving enough to even work the meta hours long term at FT

[white breach]

nah fr
like at some point i was getting feedback to create a meeting for every question 💀

[empty crater]

theres highkey way better now factoring in culture

it sounds like common cope but like

ur gonna be fine this rec cycle

[dawn kernel]

if it has happened before there’s a chance it could happen again

[full gate]

id be rly surprised if my IM did that tho

he was a very simple guy

[modern wave]

is it possible that was the same situation

[dawn kernel]

Perception != reality

[little mountain]

Sorry to hear it, but did you even want to work at such a company where like no one cares about anyone and seems like ur team worked overtime as well. Like u can get so many better fts

[empty crater]

new grad level meta doesnt beat out a lot of companies as well its only after a promo and a few more

[full gate]

he was just a chinese dude with a kid and a wife who worked a lot and loved his family

he also put a good amnt of effort into my success

[north quiver]

Did u ever have any negative interaction with anyone ever? There has to be some hint somewhere right

[full gate]

nah lol literally none

i was a good code slave

[modern wave]

bro that would have come out before calibration

[full gate]

and did a lot of creative ideation on improvements to our team, org, and services

[modern wave]

almost all of the time if u don't get an RO and it's not headcount or some illegal bs you know pretty early

[full gate]

which my team appreciate a lot

yeah

[white breach]

ye

[full gate]

so hes the only point it couldve been

id just be really surprised

[modern wave]

wait so even tho ur mentor can't tell u why u didn't get it he knows what ur final rating was right

[full gate]

yeah my only worry is that since he's so blunt he probably didnt oversell what i did much

which isnt smth he needed to do

but if every other IM did

im just cooked

but he was rly conscious of my calib

so idt it was that

like

one of my peers

was like

[modern wave]

@full gate he knows the post calibration rating right

[full gate]

much weaker

i was 1st on all metrics

[modern wave]

and he said he has no fucking clue how u didn't get RO?

arya he said he has no idea how the HIRING COMMITTEE came to the decision bro not the calibration

HR said no not your org

[full gate]

"this part of ur project is way too hard, i think we should drop it because even i wouldnt be able to complete it in this time"

and i asked my IM about it

he said if we remove it, maybe it looks bad at calibration. are u down to take it on? if not we'll remove it and argue it was overscoped but its more impressive if you complete

so i completed it 💀

[sullen smelt]

Lowk

[full gate]

like i genuinely dt he trolled me

[empty crater]

do u have other processes

[full gate]

yeah some

[candid dawn]

could also be that you were too good

like a threat to the team for future psc

[modern wave]

bro read what he said it wasn't calibration that trolled u it was hiring committee aka HR

[candid dawn]

so they didnt bring u on

lol

[full gate]

yeah ig so

[sullen smelt]

Something my intern director said to me makes sense to me. He told his calibration group that as long as you got MA everyone had an equal chance at RO

[full gate]

💀

im actually gonna kill myself

[sullen smelt]

Which lowk makes sense

[full gate]

i just wasted 3 months of my life when i couldve worked 3 hours a day

[fading veldt]

U got recruit

[prime cairn]

this is so stupid lol if its the case

[sullen smelt]

If no GE bonus

[white breach]

ye but ee ppl got rejected so idk whats going on

[modern wave]

this is the dumbest thing ever and i'm p sure it's not true one of the other figma winter interns said meta gets much better RO odds the higher ur rating is

he was prev meta

[fading veldt]

U got ro?

[full gate]

altho meta has been diff this year than past

[floral nimbus]

U should honestly ask one of your high-ups to request some details from university program

[sullen smelt]

Nope no response

I think its the former

[white breach]

ye usually they would try to move u around

[sullen smelt]

Everyone has an equal chance once you’re at MA

Equally likely to get rejected or get it

[modern wave]

it's the new amazon unfortunately

[barren mica]

Think it depends on whether you think it’s sincerely discrimination

[full gate]

wait so i was just cooked since day 1?

[still vale]

lol manager? Should sucked ur skips dick ratard

[full gate]

i dont
it could be there but its not worth chasing

[full gate]

lol i did

[barren mica]

Or if you’re just in an ads adjacent org with no hc at all

[full gate]

skip glazed me

everyone glazed me

[modern wave]

arya what do u think it is

[still vale]

Tough bro

[full gate]

w/e

happens

[opal cliff]

You know bro

[full gate]

wdym?

HR fs

[modern wave]

i know it's one of two things lmao

[barren mica]

Ok ok also depends if you have other options lined up

[full gate]

none atm

just process'

[barren mica]

Mm good luck fr

[modern wave]

if it's hr then it's discrimination they have no reason to rej

[full gate]

nah like

org hr

[modern wave]

unless meta is actually just drawing straws among the pool of MA+

[full gate]

so like

[barren mica]

Nice Good luck

[full gate]

hc or business needs

[modern wave]

but other ppl in ur org got RO??????

[full gate]

ig but idk the exact breakdown of org

ads is such a huge domain it cant possibly be at that level

thats like half of metas workforce

[modern wave]

IM would have just said hey there was no headcount we are going to figure something out for u if possible

i'm p sure if HC was the concern ur IM would know

[still vale]

I can refer

[half niche]

wtf

[rapid stratus]

just read this whole thread, this is actually so wrong

[modern wave]

bro meta is sucking off this administration because meta can't come up with anything original all mark zuckerberg has ever done is steal ideas from other ppl they're begging daddy trump to kill tiktok because that's where all the original content is made that's what's rlly getting ppls attention

ima just call that spade a spade sorry

it's either that or she was threatening ppls jobs

it was not hc it was not calib downleveling u 3x

[sullen smelt]

Yeah it’s probably just rng then tbh

[modern wave]

it is not rng ll

[lyric stirrup]

glasses

[modern wave]

omg big fucking deal

ya RO is never ever rng

it's rng on who the manager is

but if u get cooked after GE calibration and ppl much worse are getting offer they're just scared of u

meta just hiring to fire atp

[rapid stratus]

they have always hired to fire? thought that was the reputation

they want people to put in 60/hours week

GE is just the carrot on the stick

[lyric stirrup]

the 80k rockstar bonus🚬

[opal cliff]

That was pre 2022 no more bonus

[sullen smelt]

Okay so

[opal cliff]

Everyone gets the same now

[sullen smelt]

According to friend

Today is last day for ro

By eod everyone will know if they got it

[opal cliff]

Sources: trust me bro

[lyric stirrup]

ur friend zuck?

[sullen smelt]

E6 on sister team

[white breach]

I’m just assuming reject if I don’t get it today

[sullen smelt]

You’re gonna know by eod if that you got rej or ro

[lyric stirrup]

cap

[white breach]

Good

[dark cosmos]

this got to be cap

[floral nimbus]

They only have like 7 recruiters no way they are processing 1k people

[opal cliff]

Yeah e6 don’t know shi

[lyric stirrup]

random e6 dont have insight into hc for all of new grad

[floral nimbus]

In two weeks

[lyric stirrup]

lmao

[rapid stratus]

is meta cooked

[simple mural]

Yea it’s cooked

U need to learn Chinese to promote

[lyric stirrup]

yea

[lyric stirrup]

where is my promo?

[ebon anvil]

@full gate sorry to hear, let me know if you'd be interested in process to join my ML R&D team at my company

[simple mural]

And u need to

[full gate]

ill dm you thanks, sounds cool

[simple mural]

抱大腿

[lyric stirrup]

orz

[full gate]

🫶

[white breach]

orz

[full gate]

its all good. thinking on it im pretty sure whatever happened was out of my control

maybe it wasnt but its hard to learn from since i dont know what went wrong

oh well. life doesnt end and there will be more jobs

thanks everyone for kind words. i dont know for a fact that i got GE but it seems at this point that rating didnt impact it much since my rating was definitely good, whether EE or GE.

hoping whoever is still currently at meta is fortunate with a return 🫶

[rapid stratus]

yeah, just takes one higher up to ruin everything

i've been there (zon)

[lyric stirrup]

zon >>>

[keen sigil]

u got opped on fs, very sorry to hear this goat 😭

[lyric stirrup]

go get that oai offer

[empty crater]

phd interns just left my team

praying for them

[orchid galleon]

ok so uh 😐

[empty crater]

go land 400k tc oai

u got this bruh

[orchid galleon]

if arya not getting ro

and my other friend who was def performing e4 level not getting ro

and another friend who was EE not getting ro

wtf does that mean for my MA ass

[white breach]

ye we r both not rejected yet 💀

[full gate]

youll be okay

[white breach]

I’m prolly ma or ee lol

[orchid galleon]

it’s cooked gg

[white breach]

Im just told me im meeting expectations

[orchid galleon]

maybe it’s low key a culture fit/discrimination

like they don’t like arya bc they are transphobic

[white breach]

I’m just assuming the worst but recruiting genuinely is ass rn

[orchid galleon]

yeah it’s over

[empty crater]

isnt ME like very good still

[simple mural]

OAI negotiable??

[simple mural]

but if ee doesnt get it

thats fked

[orchid galleon]

some MAs have been getting ROs and some GEs have been getting rejected

[modern wave]

are there GEs other than arya who got rej?

[orchid galleon]

i know 2 EEs

idk about GE

[sullen smelt]

GE is arya

[white breach]

i j know ees

[modern wave]

maybe they went into calib EE and walked out MA

[white breach]

they would've been told that lol

if their im told them ee after calib it's ee after calib

[modern wave]

i thought u couldn't know the post calib rating

[white breach]

ye but some ims straight up leak

[modern wave]

oh 💀

[sullen smelt]

Yeah they do

Some IM give play by play of exactly what happene

[orchid galleon]

man fuck

im cooked

[white breach]

I’m just assuming the worst

Idk what our recruiters r doing

Like getting a reject now is better than later tbh

[indigo copper]

no way wtf :(

it has to be org hc based atp

[white breach]

someone ik in insta got rejected

like no shot insta doesn’t have hc

[indigo copper]

wtf

how are they even deciding

[opal cliff]

Nah m10n has a lot of hc they don’t tell you the team now you are just hired for x org

Ppl keep getting offers

And with those numbers….

[white breach]

Ye lol

[opal cliff]

Yeah but saying it’s because monetization doesn’t have headcount is just not

There’s always space for someone with those numbers

[white breach]

Maybe it’s discrimination
I’m just surprised that other ppl in shit like insta got reject

I’m also not sure why I haven’t been rejected yet

[indigo copper]

if it’s not org hc and def not perf then it’s just rng or discrimination wtf 💀

[white breach]

Dm

[sly radish]

is this due to some immigration shit going on?

[indigo copper]

arya isnt intl

[sly radish]

ohh

lol

then it has to be some serious shit.

[white breach]

Nah I got rejected

Shits actually cooked

[fading veldt]

Did u just get rejected?

[modern wave]

were u EE?

they’re giving MA RO tho right?

what the fuck

lol is the job market just fucked

[white breach]

Ma/ee idk specific rating

[modern wave]

ok

[white breach]

Ye

[modern wave]

do interns get RE ever

[floral nimbus]

no

[modern wave]

i wanna say i’d never work at meta but ngl i feel like every company is turning into this

who is acc good nowadays 😹

[prime cairn]

Meta has a history of stuff like this I think it’s a bit above the rest in terms of toxicity

[white breach]

Ye I’m really not optimistic about these places

[indigo copper]

i feel like it's industry wide atp meta is just even worse w it

[full gate]

aww im sorry man

head up we got this

[orchid galleon]

arya

that what this thread is about

[grim dagger]

damnnn why rejection? hc or some shit but meta org is big wtf

[indigo copper]

they're scared of arya

[grim dagger]

aint no way i cant see any reason why no ro. can u ask for feedback to hr?

[indigo copper]

prob got merked by some transphobe in hiring committee honestly

[white breach]

nah u cant

[grim dagger]

shit is soo ass

[white breach]

also idt it's just arya it's a bunch of ppl

[grim dagger]

im scared about my ro.. performance doesnt matter anymore

if u get ro at meta do u generally return to the same team?

[indigo copper]

if they have hc

[grim dagger]

if not?

is there team matching?

[indigo copper]

it's pillar based so some other team int he pillar i believe

[opal cliff]

nah not same team, same org

[indigo copper]

ppl are getting told what pillar they'er matched to with their offers

[indigo copper]

so if ur team has e3 hc u wouldn't go back to them?

and just randomly place within ur org?

[grim dagger]

is Arya's org historically good with ro's or no?

if not... not surpised

[opal cliff]

yep not same team that was very clear, just same org

[indigo copper]

yes but what i'm saying is if ur team does have e3 hc would they not put u back there

weird if so

[grim dagger]

if there's hc in the team it makes sense to get ro back to the same team lol

[opal cliff]

your team manager can ask for, but if they dont ask for you you are not going back even if they have hc

[indigo copper]

it's like a free ramped up person for ur team

ok yea makes sense

[opal cliff]

i know but recruiter told me that and my friend same thing too

[grim dagger]

ohhhh damnn

did Arya's manager fuck her over?

her performance was great though so i cant see why

[indigo copper]

doesn't seem it was manager more hiring committee based on this

def smth weird going on bc wtf

[grim dagger]

aint no way the hiring committee fucked her over.... i see nothing but good evaluation... unless incoming layoffs are coming and it will hit her team/org side or some shit

no other possible way

[opal cliff]

No bro it doesn’t matter they would move to other team. Monetization keeps hiring, why would they take a random MA over a GE

[grim dagger]

at this point fate denied her to get the RO

[full gate]

yeah its just unfortunate

i dont rly know what happened

it seems like this year ros are more attached to pillars / org but im still not sure how it works

in previous years i wouldve just gotten offer on rating alone.

is my understanding

[lyric stirrup]

yea

[white breach]

Slainey and I r same pillar

[lyric stirrup]

with the 80k bonus

[white breach]

But my sub pillar might be fucked

[grim dagger]

yooo wait are u a intl student?

@full gate

[white breach]

No

[grim dagger]

ok nvm

[white breach]

I’m us citizen and got reject

[grim dagger]

i was gonna say what if the trump order shit influenced it

nvm then

damnnnn

[white breach]

They were a lot yesterday

Also they were only 800 interns this year

[grim dagger]

FT right?

[small plover]

FUCK META

I didn't get the offer eitehr @white breach

[grim dagger]

i hope other companies dont do this shit

[white breach]

wtf

[full gate]

in my eyes i am the golden standard of who they would want to hire

us citizen
t10 school
worked like a horse (50-60/week)
outperformed FTEs in one of meta's highest throughput orgs
no behavioral problems, no negative technical feedback

[small plover]

Yeah lol

Thats why im at zon rn

😄

[grim dagger]

i know i know im just tryna reason why u didnt get RO

[candid dawn]

They see you as a threat bro…

[full gate]

yeah i understand. tbh i dont think theres easy reasoning to be found

i think you shouldnt take this datapoint and worry yourself on it

[grim dagger]

shit is so unfair fuck. do u know the hiring comittee? from my company i can easily know who they are lol

[full gate]

nah i dont know them rly. i know the people who evaluated my performance but it does seem like the performance wasnt a problem

so it doesnt add much color

[grim dagger]

dude i would pick u over a MA any day.... at this point its probably hc or some shit idk

[candid dawn]

Or maybe other FTEs see you as a threat

[echo agate]

did anyone in ur org get an ro

[full gate]

not that i know of

[candid dawn]

can’t let high performer in for psc

[echo agate]

or was everybody cooked

[full gate]

thx man i appreciate it. just unfortunate circumstance but we move on

cant let my life stop at smth like this

[grim dagger]

so its a org wide problem then if u dont know anyone who got ro

[full gate]

we all gonna make it 💪

[grim dagger]

yea ur right

[echo agate]

is ads ml the same org as ads infra

or very different

[lyric stirrup]

wagmi

waiting for ur referral from thinking machine

[full gate]

tbh im not sure

sorry

and honestly i dont know 100% that my team was in ads

we worked on the ads ranking models

but it was more of an ML centric team, i think we were just focused on the ads models at the time.

but the team is not built to center around ads, if that makes sense

[small plover]

ts pisses me off

[white breach]

I’m ngl I moved on from this really fast

[still vale]

Lfg this means meta layoffs on the way

[small plover]

@white breach u got the reject?

[white breach]

Ye lmfao

[small plover]

yeah bro ts company man

fuck ts company

[modern wave]

what is estimated RO rate for meta

and did they rlly just draw straws from the MA+ crowd

[white breach]

They alr filter ppl from calibration

So on top of that this

[modern wave]

how many ppl rlly don’t get MA tho

is it like a set %

[white breach]

Not a set percent but it’s usually 1-2 ppl out of every cohort

The worst I’ve seen is like 4

[small plover]

damn

i guess

you gotta enter the new grad bloodbath now

[lyric stirrup]

60%+?

[white breach]

I alr entered it lmfao

[small plover]

youll be aight

google and meta intern

🤞

[full gate]

bro there was some cohort where most did not meet expectations, 2 met, and 1 exceeded

smth like that

was crazy

[modern wave]

bruh so did meta just flame everyone this year

i think they just don’t put any effort in

[feral jackal]

is it because you maybe asked for phd rec?

maybe

[small plover]

shouldnt hae impact

meta fr slimed all of us 🥀

[white breach]

Bro my team sucked so badly that I legit am not feeling terrible rn

[small plover]

bro its fine

u can get another job

youll be fine

[white breach]

Fr

[small plover]

job is job bro

[dapper latch]

Bloomberg L.P.

[small plover]

meta is a shitty place to work anyway

it was p bad for my mental

but

if i had got the offer id take it so

🤷‍♂️

[full gate]

i didnt ask

they offered on their own

[still vale]

I can refer

[full gate]

since i had mentioned near the start i was thinking ab phd

[full gate]

guys dm @still vale for openai referral

[dapper latch]

yeah arya u helped me so much during the interview process

This is hella unfair

[full gate]

no biggie bro , good luck with return

[paper citrus]

damn I'm sorry man this is fucked, I know it's prolly not the kind of work you're interested in but if you ever want a referral lmk

[half niche]

fr

[chilly rock]

asked a senior in the org he said yea theres just no hc lol

[gilded halo]

aren't ROs not tied to team tho? why should hc affect

[chilly rock]

actually idk

[sour tiger]

fuck meta bro

[grim dagger]

Bro there’s no way there’s no headcount if 2026 new grad job posting came out

It’s bullshit

Meta is trash

The one that came out in August

University grad SWE @sharp jolt

Hmmm i see

[empty crater]

@full gate r u intl

[lyric stirrup]

no

lmao

ur the 4th person to ask that

[empty sequoia]

💀

[empty crater]

the thread is 800 and i’m employed i don’t wanna scroll 🥀

i just saw the trump thing and thought maybe

[small plover]

@novel python is it true that hella offers went out n shi

and rejects too i guess

how many people u know got rejected?

dyk anything about intern ro

damn

thats rough

i actually didnt get my reject yet lmao

[white breach]

literally no difference

[small plover]

but i know

[candid dawn]

Huh

[white breach]

as long as u dont get it u r fine tbh

[candid dawn]

So you can coast as E3?

[small plover]

but mine is for intern ro and no1 knows

about that yet

[white breach]

ye i genuinely don't know what happened here

[small plover]

yea the recruiter told me they gonna have a result in a "few weeks"

or something

🥀

i mean cuz of my story i dont think i would get an offer

so i already assume i took the L

[white breach]

blam also got rejected

[small plover]

yea whats up with meta

🥀

[white breach]

i think i just got unlucky

this is a first

[small plover]

did u reject google offer to do this? @white breach

[white breach]

no i got cooked for ro for that as well lol

[empty crater]

they found arya cscd messages

[small plover]

🥀

damn

so unfortunate

im sorry

[white breach]

ye technically ros r survivorship bias

im assuming they r more orgs with bad hc this year which is what's causing this

not like this didn't happen before

o

[small plover]

🥀

@white breach pull up to zon atleast they give return offers💀

[white breach]

im assuming not enough ppl got rejected bc of it previous years and this year they r ramping it up for some reason

[white breach]

im not doing internships bro

[small plover]

ok

:/

ok

[white breach]

im assuming it's rare to actually fail candidate review or for candidate review to cull this many

the only 22 intern that i regularly talk to is really pessimistic about the process

[small plover]

whatever man

[white breach]

ngl i feel like this isn't a great sign in general

[small plover]

its a sign to get out of swe
find some other way to earn money

swe is a shit job

[tulip lark]

what does this mean for ppl who haven’t heard back/gotten rejected yet

[white breach]

idk

ye i think it's a datapoint issue then

[tulip lark]

another ma in my org got offer

[small plover]

what org

anyone in biz messaging

[tulip lark]

foa

[small plover]

lol

oh

[tulip lark]

if i haven’t gotten rejection basically means they’re not at hc yet right

[white breach]

that doesn't really mean anything

u r just waiting on candidate review

[white breach]

@novel python ngl im still confused on why this even happened tbh
this seems really rare i genuinely don't see it happening a lot

they were a couple more i know of but there's a chance we just got really unlucky

[stoic furnace]

Happened to me as well likw Arya

20k SLOCs

Manger said I did some rlly hard work and shoudl be proud

And rejected ☠️

[white breach]

genuinely insane but like why this is happening

but we wouldnt know bc of candidate review

idt it is

i think it's just candidate review being candidate review

[orchid galleon]

monetization

aka ads

[frail blaze]

@full gate ik a buncha ppl already said it too lol but u geniunely helped so many ppl including me w resume nd everything it's acc meta's loss u did everything u had control over just hella unlucky but ur gonan be fine fs

[empty sequoia]

Wait why did u get cooked for google ro?

[queen ferry]

@white breach are u also Ads?

[white breach]

i got unlucky with team

and that's an entire other story

[white breach]

no central products

[empty sequoia]

i see dude unlucky sorry

i didnt know google ro can be cooked too

[frail blaze]

kdas i thought u were at meta lol

[white breach]

i am bro

[frail blaze]

oh shi did u do both?

[white breach]

nahi did last summer

[frail blaze]

ah isee

[white breach]

imma stop responding here i legit need to lock in

[opal cliff]

Bro there’s hc I know mas at monetization that got offers yesterday. There’s no way there wasn’t headcount for a top 1% performer

[dapper latch]

Is ur name acc krishna das 💀

[orchid galleon]

no it’s not

[low egret]

So is meta just a lottery ticket now?

[novel python]

the "candidate review" part has always been a black box

I feel like this specific unfortunate event is a big outlier

all the interns in my org got an ro, we all had different ratings

[novel python]

dm

[modern wave]

lowkey discrimination sorry

[novel python]

🤷‍♂️

[orchid galleon]

hoping my chinese ahh org sees me as one of them

[velvet holly]

1k message thread 💀

[gleaming drum]

definetely more to the story

Meta is too big to care if you are trans or not

[modern wave]

brand new account lmao. found the meta recruiter

[gleaming drum]

Im on a alt as i needed advice related to something else. But its crazy to simply say "discimination" when someone doesnt get an RO

Specially at a company such as Meta. They dont care who you are or what you do, as long as you produce you are rewarded.

[modern wave]

have you ever had a job serious question

[gleaming drum]

I have.

Which is why its extremely ignorant to simply say something like "i didnt get a RO because of discrimination"

Maybe there was slight bias, but I think its important to do some self reflection as well

[full gate]

hmm i dont know that its discrimination (which is not what im claiming, sorry if it comes across like that)

but all the datapoints i have are in the thread

• a screenshot from my team that soft verifies to you that there were no behavioral issues on my end

[dapper latch]

dude anyone who interacted with arya knows she’s capable of producing more than enough for meta’s standards. Even if you didn’t, thats why she clearly stated her stats (SLOCs and diffs). People who got the RO know that arya contributed more than them and that its simply not due to how much she produced.

[fading veldt]

Yea it’s def not performance based ngl

[dapper latch]

we’re not pin pointing it to discrimination, but we are saying it could be a possibility. IMO its more likely due to discrimination rather than her output but thats just my take

[opal cliff]

Bro they are hiring new grads like crazy, even MAs are getting ROs why would they hire a Meets All over a Greatly Exceed. Makes 0 sense

Yeah but still they are hiring EEs on that org

Exceed Expectations

Headcount is not an argument for a GE they want those

[dapper latch]

They can just reallocate the GE to somewhere else

Diff org

Makes no sense to punish a GE over an MA

What benefit does it bring by having an intern return to their org instead of joining a new one?

[floral nimbus]

Various orgs

[grim dagger]

Meet all expectations I think - MA

[full gate]

i never claimed i got GE so im not sure why people are defaulting to that. my team submitting GE in my calibration doesnt mean I ended as GE, it's a pretty regular thing to be calibrated down a level. my metrics were good but they are just metrics with no context, even less context to people who arent currently at meta

idk that it was discrimination. maybe the other interns in the cohort just gapped me in ways not represented in metrics, maybe there was some behavioral issue i wasnt made aware of by my team, maybe business needs, maybe a million things. i do not have an answer and neither do you guys

you wont get any information about your own ROs from this so dont sweat it like that, im confident you guys will be okay.

[graceful grove]

[red pewter]

Dw u too good for meta anyways

unserious company