#Atlassian vs SpaceX New Grad

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stoic badger
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Atlassian (SF):
Pros:
• Can go remote after 1 year in SF, I’d like some flexibility with location for the first few years so this is a big plus for me
• Interned there this summer and was pretty chill wlb wise
Cons:
• Performance reviews every 6 months with people around 5% getting pip’d

SpaceX (Hawthorne, CA):
Pros:
• More interesting work, would be working with StarShield team probably in C++
• I’ve always been into aerospace so I’m passionate about the work they do
Cons:
• Notoriously bad wlb with lots of hours and working weekends
• Is fully RTO in Hawthorne
• Slightly less TC than Atlassian
• Might also pip? Not too sure about this

Primarily looking to get the most career growth. Not sure which has better resume value, also not sure if it’s worth it to take SpaceX even if it’s cooler work due to WLB and location reasons. TC is basically what’s on levels. (Also this is kind of a repost but I wanted to see results without Bloomberg)

snow rover
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SpaceX always

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Although starshield has some boring teams

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Dyk what part of starshield ur on

stoic badger
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What makes some of the teams boring?

snow rover
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Idk it depends on what u like

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Some teams just do full stack so if u don’t like that beware

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There are def some lower level and more algorithmic teams though

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Regardless u will learn much more at SpaceX than any big tech

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I only have experience at meta out of the big techs but imo the people are much smarter at SpaceX and you have much more autonomy

olive patio
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spaceX bad

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no wlb

snow rover
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Yea but if u don’t care about that then it’s the better choice imo

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Ifl if you want to go far u shouldn’t care about wlb early in ur career

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But to each their own

violet meadow
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Do not work for SlaveX

snow rover
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SpaceX and meta

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I’d imagine atlassian is similar to the other fangs

scenic nova
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heard of a dude that went to spacex and ended up getting interviews everywhere

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he ended up with 7 offers from top ai labs and quant firms

stoic badger
scenic nova
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not super great but i dont remember

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i could be wrong

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point is that

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spaceX opens a massive amount of doors

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that atlassian doesn't necessarily have the same access to

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and atlassian culture has went to shit

stoic badger
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what do u think about bloomberg too

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im in process w them

scenic nova
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this is prob closer

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better WLB, much worse growth and work, but it's a pipeline to quant

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i'd still go spaceX tho

final relic
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Starshield is fire

violet meadow
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Do not go to SlaveX

snow rover
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Starshield is chill

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My team during my internship works closely with them and the work like 50 hrs max

final relic
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The WLB at non-Starship teams are not any worse than other big tech

snow rover
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I think DTC has pretty bad wlb but that’s the exceptions and not the rule

sullen jasper
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atlassian clears

sullen jasper
stoic badger
sullen jasper
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spaceX is private and it's an elon musk company. atlassian is also much more chill

stoic badger
sullen jasper
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also ig also depends on what u want for location

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like do u like nyc vs sf more

stoic badger
sullen jasper
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bloomberg is prob a bit more well known

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but it's like also marginal

stoic badger
sullen jasper
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also spaceX pays less

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but how often does spaceX have buybacks or tender offers though?

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are there limits?

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also is spaceX RSU or stock options?

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icic

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yea bc i assume u get it at a discounted strike price

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i assume you work / have worked at space x?

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so new grad total comp is like $250K?

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like liquid tho right

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the compensation numbers on levels are so low tho

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icic

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but space x is already at $400 b

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how much growth is there really going to be from there?

stoic badger
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Damn I always thought the consensus was that SpaceX underpays and overworks

sullen jasper
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@merry olive how's the work tho. are u sending emails to elon at 2am saying what u did in the last week?

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honestly not bad

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but idk if i would want to put that much trust in a stock

stoic badger
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What’s wlb like on starshield

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Yeah makes sense

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Do u still work at SpaceX?

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What are the exit opportunities like

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Yeah fs

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Howd u like location

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Were u in Hawthorne

sullen jasper
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@merry olive how does one break into spaceX

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can u give referrals

stoic badger
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Did they get the offer, I heard proc is pretty hard and they reject a lot

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I’m in proc rn

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For SpaceX

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So it’s hypo

sullen jasper
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oh but u have atlassian in the bag right

stoic badger
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It’s RO

sullen jasper
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when is the deadline for that

stoic badger
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It was a while ago lmao I already signed

sullen jasper
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are u gonna hear back from bb and spaceX before then?

stoic badger
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So id be reneging

sullen jasper
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oh lol

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just stick with atlassian honestly

stoic badger
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Ideally pivot into some sort of ML/robotics stuff instead of just regular SWE

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I plan on doing part time masters while I work

sullen jasper
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part time masters where?

stoic badger
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OMSCS lmao

sullen jasper
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oh lol

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how much is OMSCS

stoic badger
sullen jasper
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did u go to a top undergrad

stoic badger
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Nah my state school

sullen jasper
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bro went to uc berkeley lmfao

stoic badger
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Nah it’s like t30

sullen jasper
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i didn't know ut austin was just a "state school" these days

stoic badger
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It’s not known for CS

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But yeah GT is def better so OMSCS worth it for me

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Yeah ik Atlassian covers enough so that it’s free

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Also I go through TM process for Atlassian again so I could try to get placed on a Rovo team which is AI adjacent

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Overall

vestal wren
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SpaceX

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Easy

final relic
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Starship isn’t even functioning yet

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And Starlink TAM = all of internet

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Mc will hit trillions

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Easy

sullen jasper
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ok head to spaceX @stoic badger i guess

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i do agree the resume value at spaceX is a bit higher than atlassian

scenic nova
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it's significantly better than atlassian

sullen jasper
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spaceX is more prestigious than Bloomberg

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but if u want to chill and prob never have to interview again

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Bloomberg would be better

stoic badger
stoic badger
vestal wren
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Also more money for bb

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If loc matters go bb

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If work matters go spacex

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Don’t pick atlassian if you get all 3 don’t know the benefit

violet meadow
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The benefit is better wlb

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SlaveX is among the worst in the industry

violet meadow
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Elons favorite slave

stoic badger
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Which one

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unique seal
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i had both bb and spacex offers last cycle and spacex comp was quite a bit higher. obv contigent on spacex's growth

obtuse warren
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@stoic badger i'm former atlassian intern i would say it's hard but do spacex

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i think they're equal in other terms and yes SlaveX has bad wlb but it has better exit opportunities

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u would have to ask a former itnern about spacex pip/security but idt it's as bad as tesla

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i think take bloomberg over both if u get it tho

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atlassian is fine it's just a pretty mediocre tech company as big ones go

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idt it's much resume value

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not seen as a place with specific skillset or a high talent bar and the reviews aren't great

stoic badger
violet meadow
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SlaveX is technically not tech

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Bloomberg is old tech

obtuse warren
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some bb teams can get u quant

obtuse warren
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ya but bb also probably better respected for FAANG+ exits and unicorn

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spacex prob seen as elon culture

sullen jasper
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Y’all are heavily underestimating the res value of spaceX

obtuse warren
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idt resume value should be as much of a priority though when you're looking for ng

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compared w/ intern

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i think bb exits are slightly better, probably just as good if not a little better for quant dev, and better for chiller tech companies

north willow
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SpaceX > Bloomberg >>>> Atlassian

vestal wren
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Atlassian name is stronger in tech recruiting for sure

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Bb does mog for quant recruiting though

snow rover