#future thread

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dreamy badger
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ur young so makes sense

meager inlet
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yh

dreamy badger
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i didnt raelly code much until senior year hs

meager inlet
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its always the first

dreamy badger
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i just did some tutorials

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on how to make a game

hollow acorn
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just take a look at all the cool shit u can make w coding

meager inlet
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ik its fun

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but i fkn hate maths

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u dnt understnad

dreamy badger
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there no math xD

meager inlet
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in cs

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egree

dreamy badger
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tbh im confused why u dont feel u need math in business

hollow acorn
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just get a D in the math classes that’s what I did lol

dreamy badger
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doesnt biz have more math

meager inlet
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nope

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defintiely not as hard

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i promise u

hollow acorn
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Business math is way easier tbh

dreamy badger
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nah im srs i have no clue haha, my ex was in finance business

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and it was just the same stuff

hollow acorn
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but u don’t need to do well so it doesn’t matter

meager inlet
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finance yh mb

dreamy badger
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calc 1, calc 2, stats, linear

hollow acorn
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Just get a 51

dreamy badger
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🤷

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i guess end the day u know u the best

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i hate math i survive

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i graduated

meager inlet
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true

hollow acorn
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I’ll show u a list of the classes I did if it helps

meager inlet
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pls

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what was a day to day like

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i need to work

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fr

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i dnt to end up not working

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or quitting this

hollow acorn
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  • CSCA08 - Intro to CS I
  • CSCA67 - Discrete Math
  • MATA31 - Calculus I
  • PHLB50 - Symbolic Logic I
  • STAB22 - Statistics I
  • CSCA48 - Intro to CS II
  • EESA10 - Human Health & Environment
  • MATA22 - Linear Algebra I
  • MATA37 - Calculus II
  • MGTA01 - Intro to Business
  • CSCB07 - Software Design
  • CSCB09 - Systems Programming
  • CSCB58 - Computer Organization
  • EESA06 - Intro to Planet Earth
  • LINA01 - Intro to Linguistics
  • CSCC01 - Intro to Software Engineering
  • CSCC37 - Intro to Numerical Algorithms
  • STAB52 - Intro to Probability
  • CSCB36 - Theory of Computation
  • ENT200 - Innovation & Entrepreneurship
  • MATB24 - Linear Algebra II
  • MATB41 - Multivariate Calculus
  • CSCB63 - Design & Analysis of Data Structures
  • CSCC11 - Machine Learning & Data Mining
  • CSCC69 - Operating Systems
  • CSCD03 - Social Impact of Technology
  • CSCC10 - Human Computer Interaction
  • CSCC73 - Algorithm Design and Analysis
  • CSCD01 - Engineering Large Systems
  • CSCD27 - Computer and Network Security
  • CSCC24 - Programming Languages
  • CSCC43 - Intro to Databases
  • CSCC63 - Computability & Complexity
  • MGTA02 - Managing the Business Organization
meager inlet
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maths is so confusing when it gets harer

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u dk how to ge to the answe

hollow acorn
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that’s pretty many heavy tho

meager inlet
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is tht the whole degree?

dreamy badger
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CSCA67 - Discrete Math
MATA31 - Calculus I
PHLB50 - Symbolic Logic I
STAB22 - Statistics I
MATA37 - Calculus II

^^For me this was about what i took from that list

hollow acorn
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Yeah

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I went to u of t tho

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it’s super hard

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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just check ur school requirement xD

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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why it so hard

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to look hahaha

hollow acorn
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U of t is

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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calc 1, calc 2, stats, and discrete and pretty standard

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i mean mine is pretty diff

hollow acorn
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cuz it’s super math heavy

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most US schools have way less math

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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^

meager inlet
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nd i aint us

hollow acorn
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Well also like a lot of the CS classes have tons of math in them

dreamy badger
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ik u can just serach xD

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ur complaining abot math

meager inlet
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ik

dreamy badger
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but do u knwo the requirement

meager inlet
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yes

dreamy badger
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then u can decided from there haha

meager inlet
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its a b in a level maths

hollow acorn
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like CSCC63 that’s a CS class but it’s all proof based yk

meager inlet
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but i got in through clearing

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i got a c

hollow acorn
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cscb63 too

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there’s like CS proof based classes

meager inlet
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could you show me like the average maths questions?

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if u nt mind

hollow acorn
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which is probably different from the math you’ve done tho

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they are online

meager inlet
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ok

hollow acorn
meager inlet
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i dont want end up being the only one that diesnt anything class

hollow acorn
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That’s like a fourth year class tho

meager inlet
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lord have mercy

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🤮

meager inlet
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can u try this one?

hollow acorn
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nah i can’t

meager inlet
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np

hollow acorn
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u can just look at assignments or whatever

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tons of colleges have all the lectures and stuff online u can just look at the websites

meager inlet
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do you work?

hollow acorn
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nah im tryna get a job rn I just graduated

meager inlet
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how long have you been looking and how many jobs have u applied?

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im just asking to udertand

hollow acorn
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since like start of June I’ve applied to like 200 lol

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job market is so bad rn

meager inlet
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damn

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why is ithat bad

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who do they even hire then

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is it just overstaurated

dreamy badger
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canada job market just sucks

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(imo)

meager inlet
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well im in london

dreamy badger
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u can do research urself by reaching to alumns / ppl around u, but i feel london should be easier

meager inlet
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yh

dreamy badger
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canada i just know in general for @hollow acorn would be tough

meager inlet
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but idk for cs

dreamy badger
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(for any major)

meager inlet
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london is very finance baase

dreamy badger
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yup yup

hollow acorn
meager inlet
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and cs isk

dreamy badger
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ohhh waiiittt lol

hollow acorn
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It’s bad here too lol

meager inlet
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damn

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if itsbad in the us

dreamy badger
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i read toronto xD

meager inlet
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thenidk

dreamy badger
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so i was thinking canada

hollow acorn
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I went to school there but I’m American

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kinda bad cuz I can’t get referrals now lol

meager inlet
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dnt you think they can outsource nowadays?

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an theres h1b rigth?

dreamy badger
hollow acorn
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i keep getting ATS auto rejected to every job

dreamy badger
meager inlet
hollow acorn
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maybe I gotta apply on dif sites indeed and LinkedIn got auto apply and ignore ur resume

dreamy badger
meager inlet
dreamy badger
dreamy badger
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imo

meager inlet
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ik a lot of ppl that do management

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idk about us

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but llondon yes

dreamy badger
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i could be wrong, i dont think new grads are ever put into management

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is a bit of a joke

meager inlet
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or at least some higher place

dreamy badger
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(how can u manage a place u dont work / know the culture of)

hollow acorn
meager inlet
hollow acorn
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Kinda my issue

dreamy badger
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@hollow acorn do u target faangs?

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just wondering

hollow acorn
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I’ve applied to all and heard nothing lol

dreamy badger
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well makes sense cause it early

hollow acorn
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I interviewed for Amazon internship but didn’t get in

meager inlet
hollow acorn
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last year

dreamy badger
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for last year?

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yeah that makes esnse

meager inlet
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early?

dreamy badger
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i think it early still

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keep targeting

hollow acorn
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u think most ppl class of 2025 still don’t have jobs?

dreamy badger
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i think depends how active they were

meager inlet
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probably

dreamy badger
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and their logistics

meager inlet
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thts scary

hollow acorn
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I interviewed for a hedge fund that’s the only one I got

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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and i dnt want to work immediatly

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so its harder

dreamy badger
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u need to know when to apply

hollow acorn
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Passed 5 leetcode 1 hr interviews and get rejected lol

dreamy badger
hollow acorn
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Didn’t apply for a month

dreamy badger
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the further u are out from college the harder it is

meager inlet
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like i wwould regular jobs

dreamy badger
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college / student hiring process is much easier to get into

meager inlet
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but try something

dreamy badger
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than industry

hollow acorn
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The issue was last sem of college I was trying not to fail so I wasn’t applying for jobs til I graduated

dreamy badger
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this why ur still too new @meager inlet u

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dont know the process

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ur too much in just freshmen college

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mindset

meager inlet
hollow acorn
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I’ll take any SWE job at this point

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I’ll work for 40k

dreamy badger
hollow acorn
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missed all the early new grad jobs

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now 2026 shit is gonna start coming out

dreamy badger
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@hollow acorn i would in ur position:

  1. target YC companies, they are much more aggressive hiring right now
  2. Keep following up faang with it coming out this sept to oct
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u sound like ull do find

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*fine

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seems like ur problem was logistics

meager inlet
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how many ppl do faang hire?

dreamy badger
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@meager inlet depends per year

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but a lot

meager inlet
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estimate

dreamy badger
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dunno

hollow acorn
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They hire new grads for 2025 in like September?

meager inlet
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do they just keep hirign every year?

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how does that make sense

dreamy badger
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@hollow acorn apps begin in sept, and interview start late sept to nov

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and final rounds from oct to december

hollow acorn
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damn rly

dreamy badger
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bc there is attrition at these companies

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unless there is an economic downturn

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such as covid

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or stock market crash

meager inlet
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so a lot of people get fired

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right?

dreamy badger
dreamy badger
hollow acorn
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You think if I already got rejected when I applied to Amazon internship June can I apply again? Or do they blacklist u for like 6 month

dreamy badger
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(these companies just at normal rate of ppl leaving lose a lot of ppl too)

dreamy badger
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that's a fake news lol

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that this cs server always tell ppl

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xD

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idk why

hollow acorn
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Join paid discord lol

dreamy badger
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yeah u dont have to

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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everything free on the articles lol

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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because u said the longer i take without looking fora job

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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the worsit is

dreamy badger
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Student hiring tends to do within college, or within 1 year graduating

meager inlet
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so i cnt try to have my own business?

dreamy badger
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plenty of ppl who do)

meager inlet
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true

hollow acorn
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I got the Amazon OA literally 4 months after I applied to internship lol their schedule is so weird

meager inlet
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but what does an early swe worker do

dreamy badger
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if ur biz make money feel free quit working

dreamy badger
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Their OA schedule can be volatile

hollow acorn
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I’m doing it on the side then ima quit my job

meager inlet
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oa?

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whats that

hollow acorn
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coding test

dreamy badger
hollow acorn
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I’m so good at leetcode and OAs and stuff but I just can’t get any lol

meager inlet
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if thats all u do

dreamy badger
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things slow right now, havent seen an uptick in reach outs so make sense

dreamy badger
hollow acorn
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Passed 5 leetcode interviews then got rejected lol

meager inlet
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like would u need maths

dreamy badger
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i work on full stack / product stuff so i feel not that hard

dreamy badger
meager inlet
dreamy badger
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the most math i did was like math for animation

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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or p

hollow acorn
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Time to go apply for jobs

dreamy badger
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like websites, apps, products, tools

meager inlet
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oduct managemnt

hollow acorn
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thx @dreamy badger

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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okay

hollow acorn
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I’ll checkout ur discord

dreamy badger
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(LOL)

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it really covers a lot

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also ur fine

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lot my mentees within the first year graduating

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kept applying and got good shit

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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that was my situation

dreamy badger
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it too broad of a question

meager inlet
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like where you've worked

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if u changed

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got fired

dreamy badger
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worked at amazon, worked at meta, now work at a startup

meager inlet
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damn

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like that

dreamy badger
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got laid off at meta, after 3 years

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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meta was laying off ppl aggressively

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dunno why

hollow acorn
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one last question, ima apply on YC but where else do you recommend LinkedIn? Indeed?

dreamy badger
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but 20% of the bottom of the company is set to fire even if it ur first time

dreamy badger
meager inlet
dreamy badger
meager inlet
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fairplay

hollow acorn
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how do u find the companies tho

dreamy badger
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eh actually 4 weeks, cause i was doing credit card churning

meager inlet
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but what did you do outside the degree to get in those jobs

dreamy badger
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and i delayed the interview so i could chill

dreamy badger
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lol

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coding questions

meager inlet
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is that it?

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not like ur own personal projects?

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talking bout ur first job

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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on dc?

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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did u not put it in ur reference

dreamy badger
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big companies care less about cs projects

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they only care can u pass the interview

meager inlet
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what is leet code exactly?

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is just all progamming codes

dreamy badger
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its a website for coding questions

meager inlet
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what langauge is it

dreamy badger
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any language u want

meager inlet
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which one do most ppl do

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?

dreamy badger
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python probably

meager inlet
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and u

dreamy badger
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cause it the easiest / fastest

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/ what i do / recommend

meager inlet
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no for jobs

dreamy badger
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javascript / python

meager inlet
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is tht what u did?

dreamy badger
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that what i do now, before at meta, was kotlin, c++, python, javascript

meager inlet
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are those really hard?

dreamy badger
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yeah but with AI is easier

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since it all logic underneath

meager inlet
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and the questions?

dreamy badger
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? not sure what u mean the questions

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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that for my job lol

meager inlet
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for ur interview

dreamy badger
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python? for interviews?

meager inlet
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what language di they use and how har was it

dreamy badger
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python

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and it is hard

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cause u gotta study a long time

meager inlet
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oh

dreamy badger
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to pass the interviews

meager inlet
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i thought python wasnt too h ard

dreamy badger
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it not the language

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its the question

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u can write english

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but maybe cant write a novel

meager inlet
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if u were to compare it withmaths for u degree?

dreamy badger
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? im not sure what ur asking

meager inlet
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was it as har as maths was for u

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?

dreamy badger
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not comparable

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like asking apple vs oranges

meager inlet
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damn

dreamy badger
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like asking is learning how to play basketball harder than driving a car

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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like i could give u an answer but isnt helpful comparison

meager inlet
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but what was it about python that made it hard

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or the interview

dreamy badger
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it not about python lol

meager inlet
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no

dreamy badger
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it like studying for the SAT i guess is an easy comparison

meager inlet
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the interview i meant

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sat?

dreamy badger
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the rigor / breath of questions

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college entrance exam

remote panther
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what da heck is going on in here

dreamy badger
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for the US

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xD

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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is that hard?

dreamy badger
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yes

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studying for interviews is tough

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but it also at the same time "easy"

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cause no where else in the US

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can u study something like a test

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and get paid 6 figures

meager inlet
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like how hard compared to like a a typical exam in the cs degree

dreamy badger
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idk not comparable xD

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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yeah

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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NGs make about 200K total comp comping out of college

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for faang

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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oh

dreamy badger
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need to study much longer / by urself

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/ with friends

meager inlet
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thing

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is

dreamy badger
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/ mental hurdle to not be discouraged

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(thus this whole server)

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(is based on how to pass interviews)

meager inlet
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u need to like it to do it on ur own

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yh

dreamy badger
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there lots of resources online

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but yeah

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end the day comes down to u

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(if u dont study) ur fked

meager inlet
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its that hard?

dreamy badger
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i see that alot

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yeah

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i mean lots of ppl just dont have the will power

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to study

meager inlet
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u can manage time all u want but if u dont like it

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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it not even about likign it or not liking it

meager inlet
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some ppl just dnt mind earning less

dreamy badger
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u can like a sport

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but hate training

meager inlet
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no

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u like it

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so it works

dreamy badger
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xD nah

meager inlet
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yes

dreamy badger
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i liked swimming/tennis

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but hate training

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4-6 hours a day

meager inlet
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as in

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have a passion ofr it

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everyone can like anything

dreamy badger
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nah

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interviews is diff

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than cs

meager inlet
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but passion i sdifferent

dreamy badger
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itself

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interviews just a pain

remote panther
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I'm passionate about big data, neural network, machine learning 🔥

dreamy badger
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interviews are not equivalent to ur daily cs

meager inlet
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but you have passion under that

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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ehhhh

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i think bc ur a freshy / u dont know the nuance

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but i think a lot of ppl who are programmers, it depends

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but a decent amt id say would think coding is a tool to means to an end

meager inlet
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and plus idk how cs works over here

dreamy badger
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coding itself isnt the passion but building osmething is

meager inlet
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theres definitely no faang here

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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**why a lot of cs ppl do art / stuff on the side

meager inlet
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also why a lot of business ppl get other ppl to o it

dreamy badger
meager inlet
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i mean

dreamy badger
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also there is always a barrier to communication

meager inlet
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if tht ur passion

dreamy badger
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i personally love business / entrepreneurship

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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i did it thro hs + college

meager inlet
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same

dreamy badger
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(entrepreneurship)

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but i can say from that experience, being able to build ur business in ur vision is more important

meager inlet
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college?

dreamy badger
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  • bootstrapping
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that is what cs was for me

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it just a way for me to automate and build

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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it just means u start a company with little funds

meager inlet
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what is it exactly?

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yh

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ok

dreamy badger
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usually when ur young, u only have time / urself

meager inlet
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yh

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u start small right

dreamy badger
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yeah, but to start small u usually need to know how to code

meager inlet
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yh

dreamy badger
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otherwise ull be in endless hell

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trying to hire someone

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then trying to hire someone else

meager inlet
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but you do it for somehing ese

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tht means something t ou

dreamy badger
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?

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what u mean?

meager inlet
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like u would learn to code

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just for ur business

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but for cs

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its different

dreamy badger
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?

meager inlet
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its for swe

dreamy badger
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No

meager inlet
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wdum

dreamy badger
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If u want to code, u need to have good principals behind it

meager inlet
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u can learn if u need to

dreamy badger
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U can, but will fall apart

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hacks upon hacks arent sustainable imo

meager inlet
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i mean nowadays

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with ai

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its easier

dreamy badger
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if u feel that to be the case go for it

meager inlet
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well not just

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i want safety

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just dk in what

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bm or cs

dreamy badger
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there is no safety imo

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just do u have the skills to support urself

meager inlet
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as i some job

dreamy badger
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yeah hard to say

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im bias

meager inlet
dreamy badger
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imma always say CS

meager inlet
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ofc

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this whole dc server is

dreamy badger
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xD

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yup

meager inlet
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its why im bmn asking students asw lol

dreamy badger
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i mean u can talk to a mentor

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but it alked to my business mentor

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he told me to not do a business degree

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back then

meager inlet
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back when?

dreamy badger
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he had a bio BS, and a MBA

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in high school

meager inlet
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cs has changed sinc

dreamy badger
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well his thing was basically

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if u wanna do a business

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u dont need to go to school for that

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a hard skill will bring u a lot further

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and differentiate u

meager inlet
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im not saying bm to learn to do business

dreamy badger
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i think that is true now looking back

meager inlet
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i need a degree

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and id rather that

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or do cs

dreamy badger
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xD sure

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if u want a degree do whatever

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doesnt matter

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just weird to pay whatever amount

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for a degree anyone can do

meager inlet
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its just i want to be employe beyond just a regular job

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if a business doesnt work

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or to do whilst im doing biz

dreamy badger
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wont u just be a normal employee?

meager inlet
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?

dreamy badger
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BMS wont make u have a better job?

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its just i want to be employe beyond just a regular job <-?

meager inlet
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it will

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wdum

dreamy badger
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if u really think this

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why doesnt everyone do it

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i think this is just a student mentality

meager inlet
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no u can learn other things on ur own

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get certifications

dreamy badger
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🤷

meager inlet
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xd

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i knewn it

dreamy badger
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certifications dont mean shit

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really dont

meager inlet
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i mean i know someone who works as IT operations and did physiotherapy for uni

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he got certifications

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from certiamp or something

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job markets diff now

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i mean u know more than me

dreamy badger
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as an entry level break in yes - certificants can help

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but they are devalued

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(b/c again) how easy it is

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it always about defensible moats

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if something is easy, it less defensible

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it less valued

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just always ask urself, is this skill valuable, by who, what is the defensive moat as to why it is valued, why is someone else not doing it

meager inlet
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but surely not everyone does it

dreamy badger
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im just saying to have a good value

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ask urself the question

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just always ask urself, is this skill valuable, by who, what is the defensive moat as to why it is valued, why is someone else not doing it

meager inlet
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how dyu do tht

dreamy badger
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i use my brain

remote panther
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stand in front of a mirror

meager inlet
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the higlight

dreamy badger
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">"

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lol someone learning markdown

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hello world

remote panther
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hello justin

meager inlet
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hello

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oh

dreamy badger
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fyi: it called markdown xD

meager inlet
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damn

remote panther
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the process of asking yourself questions in front of a mirror is called mark down because u mark it all and note it down

dreamy badger
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xD

meager inlet
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well i mean the skill thingmakes sense

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but at the same time

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a cs studnet cnt do mangemtn

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or leadership

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idk with experience if swe

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can

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or not

dreamy badger
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a cs student can do management xD

meager inlet
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like get the role before a bm