Location?

[jolly basin]

seattle, wa for loc @ivory dirge

[normal fox]

whats the team

[cunning echo]

I’m ngmi how can I be like you turtle

Apple Meta C1 Google

almost true cfaang

[cinder edge]

C1 is?

[cinder edge]

Verbal offer?

[jolly basin]

no just the call

[jolly basin]

capital one

[normal fox]

turtle is cracked

[west mesa]

we all getting into cfaang (google)🔥

pray and manifest🙏

[normal fox]

I cant get c

and already rejeted from faang

forever ngmi

us citizen wife is my only hope

[jolly basin]

nah not yet

call is tuesday

[modern wren]

Team ?

[wet prism]

@jolly basin pp size?

[static warren]

15 inches

[jolly basin]

the apple numbers are smth

no

first year tc @ meta = 200,200
first year tc @ apple = 179,750

[wet prism]

can you split your money with me

Thanks.

[jolly basin]

Meta:
Base Salary: $137,000
Target Bonus: Up to 10% of Base Salary - $13,700
RSUs: $126,000 over 4 years, distributed in 4 equal chunks each year (25% per year, 6.25% per quarter)
Sign-on Bonus: $18,000

Apple:
Base Salary: $138,500
Target Bonus: None for first year
RSUs: $105,000 over 4 years, distributed evenly
Sign-on Bonus: $15,000

explain pls 👀

@night venture

curious why u think that

[cunning turret]

Do you have masters?

[jolly basin]

bachelors only

[west mesa]

do oyu know whats internal promo like for meta or g

[cunning turret]

You've got the highest new grad offer from apple I've seen yet,how did you go about negotiating?

[jolly basin]

I mentioned meta & google competing and gave meta numbers since I don't have google ones

[west mesa]

are both meta and apple in bay area?

[jolly basin]

yeah

mpk and cupertino respectively

[west mesa]

if you get google (bay area respectively), itll be 158k base, 15k sign on, 100k (38/32/20/10), and 15% base salary performance bonus

since me and you dont have masters

standard offer

[jolly basin]

offer technically isn't here yet

[cunning turret]

Damn I need to learn to negotiate better

That Apple offer is really great considering they don’t give that high usually

Are you on a ML team?

[jolly basin]

nah

embedded swe

[static warren]

yes

[cunning echo]

need turtle job guide 🥀

[cunning turret]

Which org are you?

[stray flare]

is there an additional relocation?

[jolly basin]

hardware val

which may the source of some issues since i think swe org has higher salaries

[cunning turret]

So you just told them you had offers from other places and that's the first offer they gave? No back and forth?

[jolly basin]

yeah that was the first number

gonna try to give them the numbers that @west mesa said and see if they'll budge with the RSUs

they're deffo not gonna budge with base

[cunning echo]

if you get google ur taking google right

google is best of the three in the food tier list i think

[jolly basin]

no

needs to be an embedded team

breaking into embedded after general swe if p hard

[cunning turret]

Are you in the head office?

[jolly basin]

ya

wbu

[cunning echo]

gz on getting passionate career opportunity

[jolly basin]

lol

[cunning echo]

idek what embedded does

i thought it was lik gpu programming

[cunning turret]

San Diego

[jolly basin]

ah

what did they offer u 👀

[hollow badger]

What's the offer for a masters student?

[cunning turret]

My first year Tc is 178k

Got more cash that equity

Kinda wanted more equity tbh

[jolly basin]

we're basically the same

mine comes out to 179k

imma try to equity max

[cunning turret]

I was trying my ass off to get 100k equity

Couldn’t get it 😓

Don’t mind have less cash early in my career don’t have much bills anyway

[jolly basin]

ah

[cunning turret]

Gonna need that later in life

[cunning turret]

Is it true that you can get promoted within the year?

Maybe then I can negotiate a better comp. any idea how promotion negotiations work at Apple?

[jolly basin]

that is what recruiter seemed to be hinting to me

[cunning turret]

That’s what they told me as well but just thought they were trying to get me to sign quick lol

[west mesa]

relocation is like 11k, i didnt include it

[west mesa]

160k base, 20k signing bonus, 15% of base salary performance bonus, and 100k rsu (38/32/20/10) i believe

for bay area and nyc

[jolly basin]

damn

[jolly basin]

u think they'd let me nego with it to get stock up

[normal fox]

cant they nego more base

[jolly basin]

I can try

gonna just give prelim numbers and ask if there’s any wiggle room

[west mesa]

i think so, and its almost always better to take more stock than base for big tech

theyre also more likely to give more stock than more base

[solid smelt]

In terms of what they most likely will try to negotiate first I’d say the order is

Sign on
Stocks
Base

[sacred copper]

y’all are making me so proud 🙂‍↕️

[normal fox]

This might be a stupid question but how do they give you stock. So base they prolly just deposit in your bank, but wb stock 😂
Do I create a Robinhood account or something and they send it there

[solid smelt]

they prolly have either their own investment manager or use something like fidelity or robinhood

i'd assume u use your work acct as your investment acct

[jolly basin]

they have their own asset manager they use

I know that meta is Schwab afaik and Amazon is fidelity

you can just transfer them to ur personal account after they vest

[normal fox]

do u recommend selling a part of the stocks or keeping them all in the account

[jolly basin]

your choice

you pay taxes when you get them

then the gains tax applies after that

So if you don’t need the cash immediately might as well keep em for a year then sell to lower tax

[west mesa]

pretty sure they will set up a brokerage with you. someone correct me if im wrong but i believe its with fidelity

[jolly basin]

depends on the company

[normal fox]

they tax the stock when u get them ?

wtf

[jolly basin]

when they vest it's taxed yes

it's considered income

[cunning echo]

It gets taxed again even if you sell at vest?

[jolly basin]

yes

[cunning echo]

Wtf

I thought capital gains only applied on gains

[west mesa]

oh yeah, i thought they were asking me about G

my bad

[jolly basin]

nah ur good

i thought they were asking in general lol