!process how cooked is ng recruiting | cscareers.dev | Page 1

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 12:58 AM

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better than 2024 and 2023

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still not great

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kind of winners take all game (people with experience already get most of the interviews)

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:12 AM

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for reference im at c1 this summer but ideally want to break into FAANG/big tech

raw wing May 12, 2025, 1:20 AM

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vocal tusk kind of winners take all game (people with experience already get most of the in...

tony has cracked google😫 🙌 (he's the winner)

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:40 AM

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im just worried that ng recruiting will be hella difficult compared to trying to get another intern -> RO

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also is it a thing to do internship summer before working FT? would i get in trouble for that

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:42 AM

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iron prawn for reference im at c1 this summer but ideally want to break into FAANG/big tech

if u have c1 already then u shouldnt delay ur graduation lol

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you can do internship summer before working ft, ik a lot of ppl who do that, but some companies might not let you intern that summer (like reject u based on ur grad year)

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faang internships are all rng. applied to meta/netflix for 4 years not a single interview - only recently got one single google interview for ng

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:44 AM

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true true

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im a dec 2026 MS grad or if I dont land anything better just finish off that semester part time/online

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do you think its worth to recruit intern again and have c1 ft as my fallback

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or should i just recruit ng normally

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:47 AM

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imo its way easier to move from c1 to faang after working a year than it is ng

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it becomes less rng the more experience u have

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the tc isn't that far apart if you live in a lower cost of living area and if your really junior for c1 vs big tech

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it's just that ur promos are pretty slow and pay increase very little

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:50 AM

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vocal tusk it becomes less rng the more experience u have

valid points

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would u recommend i recruit intern or ng this next cycle?

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:51 AM

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both

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:51 AM

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assuming i just have to choose 1 idk how it works if i were to do both

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:51 AM

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Just take whatever is best

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:51 AM

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is it possible to apply intern and ng for the same company

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i heard they either auto reject or messes it up

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Yeah I usually applied ng only if that was the case

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I applied to both for google this cycle tho and they still gave me an interview but it could be just lucky recruiter reach out

brazen crystal May 12, 2025, 1:52 AM

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vocal tusk imo its way easier to move from c1 to faang after working a year than it is ng

While I can’t say for next year, this year was pretty good for new grad

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Might’ve been lucky but I got meta google Amazon ng interviews this year

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But yea I do agree with you he should def start his job anyway

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:53 AM

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Yeah meta interviewed a lot this year

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Except me for some reason

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:53 AM

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vocal tusk Yeah I usually applied ng only if that was the case

how did you know what companies u had to choose 1?

brazen crystal May 12, 2025, 1:53 AM

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vocal tusk Except me for some reason

Just pure luck at the end of the day fs

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:53 AM

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also heard ng interviews are way harder + less HC

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:54 AM

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brazen crystal Might’ve been lucky but I got meta google Amazon ng interviews this year

whats ur prev exp?

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:54 AM

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Nah ng interviews not always harder

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like Bloomberg has the exact same cycle

brazen crystal May 12, 2025, 1:54 AM

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iron prawn whats ur prev exp?

Just two summers at a smaller tech company

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And I was a masters student so that may have helped

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:55 AM

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iron prawn how did you know what companies u had to choose 1?

I don’t understand this question

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:55 AM

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vocal tusk I don’t understand this question

sorry i meant like how do you know which companies only let u apply for one or the other

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:55 AM

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Oh u don’t

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:55 AM

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i just dont wanna apply both and it messes up my chances w either

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:56 AM

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I just said if I see listings for both I only apply ng

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Except Google for some reason

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I don’t know why I applied to both

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:57 AM

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i see

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:58 AM

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brazen crystal But yea I do agree with you he should def start his job anyway

whats the thought process for this? is it just bc potentially not getting RO if i intern again?

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 1:59 AM

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I mean like what’s the alternative

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 1:59 AM

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im thinking of trying to get intern for summer 2026 and then taking c1 ft RO fall 2026 if i dont get return from summer 2026 company but idk how the timing will work or if c1 wouldnt allow that

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:00 AM

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I think ur overcomplicating it and kinda wasting money

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Instead of working for 150k a year ur paying more money for your masters for the maybe 10 percent chance of getting a better internship

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when you could’ve just spent the whole year working, and moved companies anyways

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:02 AM

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dont wanna get in too specific of it but in my scenario the cost of masters doesnt change if i delay grad to dec 2026 (just lose out of the pay from the fall sem but would be potentially countered by intern 2026 money)

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:02 AM

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vocal tusk Instead of working for 150k a year ur paying more money for your masters for the...

id only not do RO if i got an internship i feel like is better

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:03 AM

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lol bro just put the fries in the bag and go to c1 it’s a huge waste of time recruiting ng

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:04 AM

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lol

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so should i just recruit ng and call it a day

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Yeah because even if u get an interview for faang or big tech its not guaranteed you pass or even get a return offer

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like your manager could leave the company mid internship

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:05 AM

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yeah the return offer is the main reason im hesitant

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bc this whole idea is scrapped if i dont get a intern 2026 that i think is worth so ig this is all a hypothetical situation

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:07 AM

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I don’t know ur taking a p big risk

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Well I guess not really a risk

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But it’s just a waste of time tbh

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for not enough gain

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:07 AM

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idk how it could work but i could intern summer 2026 work c1 ft fall 2026 and hop if i get the RO from summer

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but like idk if id get in trouble for that

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:08 AM

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I mean you would prob burn bridges for c1

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But sometimes return offers take longer than to the fall

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but think of it this way

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You start c1

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You finish your masters

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Work January

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By December you would have 1 year of full experience

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By your timeline worst case, you would have three months or six months if you didn’t get an internship

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that’s 6ish months of pay

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that’s like 75k

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:10 AM

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vocal tusk By your timeline worst case, you would have three months or six months if you di...

wait sorry wdym by this

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:10 AM

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since c1 pays 150k first year

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Three months or six months of full time experience

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Since I’m guessing u start in September

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:12 AM

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what is worst case here? i dont get RO from summer intern?

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:12 AM

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Worst case u waste ur time and don’t get an interview from any big tech company

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And lose out of 75k of pay

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And waste six months of ur life

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:12 AM

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if i dont get any intern offer id just start c1 in fall 2026

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and finish my master part time

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:13 AM

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Wait why wouldn’t u start sooner

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if you didn’t get an intern offer

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:13 AM

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wdym

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:14 AM

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Like if u interned wouldn’t it be summer of 2026

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:14 AM

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woudlnt standard start date if i intern this summer be fall 2026

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:14 AM

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oh I see

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No it’s spring or summer 2026

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September is pretty rare

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Like most companies wanted me to start in June or July

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:16 AM

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i see so ig like if i get no internship summer 2026 i start c1 FT summer 2026 or i get intern 2026 summer(assuming i land a role) and do that and start C1 FT fall ( if i dont get RO for intern company)

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:16 AM

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Or u don’t have an option to start c1 ft fall lol

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and u become unemployed

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:17 AM

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that is also true

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if it came down to that i wouldnt risk prob

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:18 AM

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I’m not familiar with c1 start dates

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But recently I’ve noticed companies being more stingy on start date

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:18 AM

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yeah true

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if the dates lined up fine do you think id get in trouble for interning summer before i start FT tho

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:19 AM

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No my friend did it

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For Bloomberg (interned summer before she started)

desert moss May 12, 2025, 2:19 AM

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c1 is not bad at all

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zon meta google hire a lot of ngs

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:20 AM

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c1 keeps this server from unemployment

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:20 AM

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oh yeah fs im def grateful for c1 thats why i wouldnt risk losing offer

desert moss May 12, 2025, 2:20 AM

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if ur aiming for smth higher theres still a good chance

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:20 AM

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vocal tusk c1 keeps this server from unemployment

me included😭

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:21 AM

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desert moss if ur aiming for smth higher theres still a good chance

im just scared imma get cooked with ng interviews vs intern

desert moss May 12, 2025, 2:21 AM

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just make sure u keep leetcoding

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you'll be fine

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:24 AM

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im just seeing everyone talk about how cooked ng recruiting is💀

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so you guys dont think if i can intern summer 2026 and start c1 fall 2026 and hop if i get RO

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and i should just recruit ng

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 2:28 AM

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bro ng recruiting is the same as interning

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ng recruiting might have less positions but interning has people from 4 years of college + masters + phd students applying

iron prawn May 12, 2025, 2:30 AM

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fair enough

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appreciate the insight🙏

sharp kernel May 12, 2025, 3:00 AM

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im working ft at fid soon im thinking of leaving it off my resume while i continue to grind/interview for ng unless it takes long enough that i hit 1 yoe

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thoughts @vocal tusk

desert moss May 12, 2025, 3:07 AM

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why leave it off

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i dont think that would negatively affect u

vocal tusk May 12, 2025, 9:02 AM

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desert moss i dont think that would negatively affect u

cuz he probably wants leave fidelity asap. If he puts on his resume he’s already at fidelity, then companies won’t interview him since he already found a ng job

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