Amazon vs Atlassian

[digital oracle]

i’ve done both internships

i’d take atlassian

[dire marlin]

zon bro

you can do zon and leave in the middle after 3 months

jr. dev is not a lot of work i have heard

[silent hare]

Atlassian

It’s 200k for a new grad remote job

[dire marlin]

its not

they decreased their ng pay

its 160k tc

[silent hare]

You’re not counting rsu

It’s 160k cash

And that’s minus 10% bonus

With bonus and rsu it’s 200k for first year

[dire marlin]

nah my friend got like 170k total comp ng return offer

[silent hare]

Is he in Seattle

[dire marlin]

ye but i know someone in new york got 170 asw 💀

Atlassian SF is 180k remote
Amazon Bay Area is 212k 5 day RTO

[silent hare]

U sure it’s 180k for sf

[dire marlin]

ye , i dont know if u can negotiate tbh

ML might be higher

normal swe is 180k

[silent hare]

I rather take 180k remote over Amazon then

[atomic creek]

@muted viper can u start jr dev after atlassian starts. my start date for my jr dev is after my summer internship ends

that way u do both

i was able to ask for later start date for jr dev

it’s team dependent though

[dire marlin]

he doesnt have time to ask 💀

honestly u can accept and renege later atalssian

[atomic creek]

yeah uh just accept atlassian and decide after

[dire marlin]

ye

[atomic creek]

try to move zon start date to later if u can’t then u can decide later what to renege

[dire marlin]

nice take but i wanna grind early career and learn in AWS

[dire marlin]

did u move ur start date to mid sept?

[silent hare]

Yea I think the difference between these two is how much u value wlb

[dire marlin]

yeah

[silent hare]

After u consider amazons wlb the pay is pretty much the same as atlassians

[atomic creek]

ok so i asked for late sep and he asked for approval and gave me sep 2

i need sep 29 or later

i’m tryna do google all 14 weeks

not reduce to 12

[dire marlin]

tuff nice

[atomic creek]

so he said he will ask and get back to me again today

so prob tmrw he will lmk

[dire marlin]

yea quarter system sucks 😭

i envy the aug end people

[atomic creek]

lmao

[dire marlin]

more time to grind and apply istg

[atomic creek]

lol

[atomic creek]

u can also do this if u want both on ur resume

this was my back up plan if they didn’t let me do fall start

[atomic creek]

yeah it’s books team and it’s p chill and all of them j coast 💀

[dire marlin]

yeah lol

@atomic creek do u think i can still interview for jr dev after accepting zon from different email?

[atomic creek]

idk shoot ur shot

you miss all the shots u don’t take buddy

[dire marlin]

DMed ty

[atomic creek]

ok now depends do u want both on resume

just to max resume value

then do until summer and quit

if u don’t want to do that

then back to square one of atlassian vs zon jr dev

[supple quarry]

did yg apply with referals for jrdev? @atomic creek @muted viper i got zon for summer but i cant pass this goddamn jr dev screening/ats

[atomic creek]

no i applied and cold emailed

[supple quarry]

damn nice

[atomic creek]

idt amazon has a screening or ats

for any of their shit

i can’t lie

[supple quarry]

oh they do

fs

[atomic creek]

if they do then it’s just bare minimum

uh atlassian or zon or atlassian + zon will open up lots of doors fs

so you’ll be able to get interviews fs

[supple quarry]

gotchu, for ur question, id choose zon over atlassian for better res value + zon is a good feeder for meta ng ive heard

[atomic creek]

it’s just going to be down to can u pass the interviews

which is in ur hands

nah fuck feeling bad

don’t feel bad for employers

they won’t feel bad for u if they choose another candidate

it’s one sided

i’d do zon start rn

quit summer

do atlassian

bc i value res value

[dire marlin]

zon is more resume value

some people dont even know what atlassian is

[silent hare]

Nah everyone knows atlassian in tech world

[dire marlin]

recruiters are not tech ppl 💀

[silent hare]

Ppl outside of tech don’t know what snowflake or data bricks r either

[dire marlin]

true

[silent hare]

They work in tech so they prolly do know

[dire marlin]

yea prolly true

@muted viper whats ur team for jr dev

[silent hare]

Pretty sure recruiters themselves use atlassian products

[dire marlin]

what will u be working on?

[dire marlin]

yea jira >>

whats ur loc?

@shy bison this guy knows different teams for differnt jr dev loc

[atomic creek]

books org

jr dev is always under books kindle stuff

[odd magnet]

seattle and nyc unfortunately zone B for atlassian so it’s gonna be less

[dire marlin]

yea nyc poverty

[vale crow]

How tf is nyc zone b but sf is not

[dire marlin]

shitlassian

http://shitlassian.com/

[dire marlin]

@muted viper did you accept atlassian then?

asking for a friend whos on atlassian waitlist 💀

[digital oracle]

getting aws team is rng and either way aws is sweatshop

amazon and aws career growth are so ass

[dire marlin]

understandable brotha

jr dev is not aws

[dire marlin]

wise decision, u can get amazon next year easily if you want lmao , but yeah u can get better with atlassian next year

[digital oracle]

i would still take atlassy

i enjoyed interning there

more than amazon

[dire marlin]

yea atlassian has nice wlb too so u can grind with the internship for junior year recruiting

[digital oracle]

could never see myself ft at amazon

[digital oracle]

team dependent on the atlassian wlb tho

but yes most interns are slacking hard

[dire marlin]

yea i talked to an atlassian engineer and he was like yeah atlassian interns were having fun and hes been in aamzon as well but interns there sometimes were working too hard 💀

[digital oracle]

it’s all team dependent

[dire marlin]

like their project was rough , he himself left amazon to join atlassian 💀

[dire marlin]

yee

[digital oracle]

my amazon project was free and kinda dumb

[dire marlin]

dashboarding? crud stuff?

[digital oracle]

yep!

react java web dev for an internal app used by like 3 ppl

[dire marlin]

lmao nothing much to learn then it sucks

[digital oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[dire marlin]

real

[digital oracle]

then i pull up to figma

“refactor the entire figjam layout system to be more performant”

“scope out the work yourself”

[dire marlin]

💀 lmao

this allows more flexibility to work with any tech stack you want right?

[digital oracle]

has 8 prs open “you’re not efficient enough”

[digital oracle]

what does

figma?

[dire marlin]

like an open scope project

you can do whatever you want just to get shit working the way they want right

[digital oracle]

no

not gonna get into detail it’s horrible tho i’m ngl

[dire marlin]

ohh ic

heard some horror stories from notion asw

[digital oracle]

there’s one way they want me to do it and they reveal it by leaving passive aggressive pr comments

[digital oracle]

can u dm?

[dire marlin]

ohh 💀

[atomic creek]

it’s guaranteed not

[last moss]

@digital oracle

how was atlass

[last moss]

Less

[last moss]

not true at Amazon'

[silent hare]

Amazon less or atlassian less?

[last moss]

amazon less

At any non-NPC team at Amazon (which are becoming more common these days) you'll be working like 10 more hours a week at the v least

[digital oracle]

i liked it

internshit is chill

[last moss]

ah nice

SF office?

[spiral cradle]

Not remote anymore either they’re doing back to office

My friend had the offer and they wanted him to relocate to the Bay Area

[silent hare]

Nah atlassian is remote