LinkedIn vs Atlassian Internship (junior year)

[glacial delta]

I have 2 offers, one from Atlassian and one from LinkedIn.
Atlassian: 58/hr SFO, $3000 lump stipend, remote company (idrc, i want to be in office); Return offer highkey guaranteed, nearly 90%. My recruiter and everyone I talked to were extremley kind and personable
LinkedIn: 50-something in either Sunnyvale or SFO, offer letter otw, they do offer something for housing too. Doesn't disclose return offer rate. (i've heard they don't assume they can find a role for all interns and teams know about headcount later). Better brand name and Microsoft stock as well.

I want somewhere with a good intern program that will really develop me. Ultimately I want to become really competent as a SWE and set a good foundation for having a lot of impact wherever I'm at.
I'm really looking to Learn more than Earn and its a blessed amount regardless. I think compnay direction is usually a good sign about layoffs. Not sure how much as a new grad I'll be affected by culture or WLB tbh.

[foggy stag]

had the same situation and i took linkedin

[glacial delta]

yeah i remember you saying that, let me go back and check out what helped you make that decision

[foggy stag]

cant go wrong w either but the ro stuff ab atlassian at the time was shaky there and ik linkedin is sketch in general so if i had to choose between sketch and sketch id rather go w the company that has better growth/upside

linkedin doesnt hire external ngs either and ive heard rlly great things ab their intern program and company in general

fwiw atlassian stock has been dipping recently, if ur worried ab ro id take atlassian but their ro isnt 100% solid as years b4

id argue linkedin is on the uptrend, they had a bad year in 2023 bc of layoffs so intern ro was not good that year. think its looking better for the 24 interns but id expect to still be hunting ng for a bit bc some orgs take some time to know ab hc

overall tho the ro stuff seems a bit sketch in general this year across all tech (with some companies being an exception), at the eod if ur a high performer theyll try their best to keep you regardless of the company

[glacial delta]

yeah thanks, i feel like i have more a tangible feeling for LinkedIn that isn't just better brand name in my head

[robust juniper]

Something to ask yourself, if you took Atlassian would you be ok with that being your NG job + externally hunting

Or would you rather have LinkedIn internship + potentially no NG RO + need to look externally

LinkedIn resume value would be better I’m pretty sure, but NG market is pretty rough so keep that in mind.

Hard choice tho ngl

[glacial delta]

I'm currently looking on levels.fyi, it seems like compensation is a decently lower for LinkedIn, is the Apprentice SWE IC1 what new grads are or am I just misunderstanding it

[foggy stag]

its ic2

[glacial delta]

well damn, nvm then good looking

[glacial delta]

ok this is a good way to lay out the decisions thank you

[foggy stag]

but that number is slightly misleading bc its skewed w masters data
I think general bachelors swe is in the 195-200 range

but their promos r fast

2 years to senior on average

[glacial delta]

i might have to be a gambling man

[glacial delta]

damn, how much did your recruiter/behavioral interviewer tell you?

i feel like i ask pretty good questions but you really grilled em

[bleak pivot]

whend u hear back

@glacial delta

like this week?

[foggy stag]

my interviewer was 2 years to senior

[bleak pivot]

j now

[foggy stag]

and my behav said good growth

[glacial delta]

yeah, a few days after interviewing

[foggy stag]

to give u a number in the li disc 42/200 have reported a verbal ro

[glacial delta]

i know i'm the type of person to want to do whats best for me, even if it has a higher barrier. I've been betting on myself for so long that I think I'll continue doing so. If I can assume good performance for both of them, I would be upset if I shot lower out of fear

I might regret it but I think i need to live true to my identity

[foggy stag]

id assume theres a good 40-50 that probably also heard back but arent in discord/dont report, and interns infra teams havent heard back yet

[foggy stag]

this is the exact reason i chose linkedin over msft

[bleak pivot]

like j now? shit lmao that means theyre done w this week's decisions

im supposed to hear back this week too

[glacial delta]

no like a few hours ago i got the email for calling, and good news, and verifying my legal identity, start date, and grad date

[foggy stag]

whos ur recs

[bleak pivot]

ah gotcha

[foggy stag]

both of u

[bleak pivot]

i have JW

[glacial delta]

really hoping the best for you @gmi

[bleak pivot]

JW said ill have an update by the EOW

so expecting it td or tmrw but likely td

[foggy stag]

youll hear back by eod today

[glacial delta]

(recruiter?) SS

[bleak pivot]

yea

[glacial delta]

you?

[foggy stag]

NS

[glacial delta]

@foggy stag

ion even know what i asked for lmao, i know like 3 people at the company

[foggy stag]

if u end up accepting lmk

[glacial delta]

i think i will, but i will

[foggy stag]

ya congrats again man

who was ur atlassian rec btw

hh?

[glacial delta]

@bleak pivot hoping the best for you too.
let's all buy an extended stay airbnb in sfo, have $600 rent, and get our RO

[bleak pivot]

lol i live in the area acc

[bleak pivot]

but ong

[glacial delta]

she ended up picking me up after i met with her my intial recruiter was MC

[foggy stag]

id be so down for this ngl ik another intern me n him were talking ab it too

[glacial delta]

i had a lot of questions so M D'C connected me

[foggy stag]

she might get 2 rejects bc of li 😭

[glacial delta]

yeah I have a friend who I met during abroad that moved back to the US, thatl'll be out there 😭

[glacial delta]

I feel so bad too, she's been my best experience with a recruiter online

[foggy stag]

yea me asw

i got to final last yr w atlassian too

[bleak pivot]

wait bernie were u applying backend swe

si

[foggy stag]

i basically begged their recruitrs for the early app link just to turn them down 😭

[bleak pivot]

loll

[foggy stag]

me n her were in talks like all thru spring asw

[glacial delta]

for linkedin? idk bra i just been talking to atlassian since early talent, and my friend met LinkedIn SS and connected me to her when a program we were in allowed us to visit hq's

[foggy stag]

for atlassian

i think

[bleak pivot]

oh lol

[glacial delta]

i think i was in a few of their early talent events, and they were partnered with an organization i was in

[foggy stag]

yea i was in those events too

😭

[glacial delta]

resume review 🗣

[foggy stag]

shouldve not hit hc last year i wouldve taken them

[glacial delta]

wym

[foggy stag]

last yr i got to final

passed all rounds

they hit hc

[glacial delta]

😬

thats why im afraid of even asking for an extension, gotta decide this week

[foggy stag]

tragedy

if u have the offer they wont hit hc

they account for those

[glacial delta]

i even rescheduled LinkedIn, cause I was sick and my vocal cords sounded like a harmonica, and SS was being real with me and told me if I reschedule to Nov 3rd or wtv im prolly cooked and it's a big gamble, i took it but then she found an earlier date and it worked out

[foggy stag]

ahhh thats so clutch

theyre probs close to full

[glacial delta]

yup

nah this is really crazy tho

i used to pray for times like this

[bleak pivot]

nice man

good things come ur way

🙏🙏

need that hear back today

[foggy stag]

felt that bruh

u made it

[glacial delta]

you too

[glacial delta]

i've been stressing and grinding since freshman year. to think I was even going to go to Community college, with the federal army reserve to pay for college. then coming to college opened my eyes up to what's really out there

I thought having a perfect gpa as a freshman would get me an internship, fuck was wrong with me 😭😭

went through a walmart arc, working 2 other jobs on top as a private act tutor and golf caddy

sophmore year networked my way into an internship, but i knew it wasnt the end goal

this school year i gambled my grades, personal relationships, health, student organization position, and everything on these interviews

looking forward to san francisco this summer for all of us

[foggy stag]

all ab exposure bro

good on u for being proactive

celebrate ts big tech is a big accomplishment

ro stuff to the side im rlly excited to work this summer

[candid ridge]

Linkedin wtf

[candid ridge]

Grind your hardest for return offer at Linkedin. If its comforting, linkedin name will help alot for ng recruiting

[foggy stag]

yea worst case just grind

easier said than done but just grind

[glacial delta]

that's the goal anyway. I came too far to stop now

alright, my mind's made up. I'll meet with my coach, call the recruiter back (i texted her for times) and then decide

if any of yall got specifc questions i should ask lmk. thanks all

[foggy stag]

ro rate

Just to see whay they say

And anything else

The call is offer anyway u don't need to ask any special questions

[left mirage]

Atlassian RO was like 50% this year w a bunch of ppl on waitlist apparently

[glacial delta]

i see, I guess my recruiter mustve using an older cohort. The person that told you, how accurate would you say they are?

[glacial delta]

I definitley well, I can't bet on NG recruiting other than practicing leetcode passivley over time

[left mirage]

they were an intern

and im p sure they did a poll in a discord

Also HH cited 88% for me

but i think she included both waitlisted ppl and ppl who got return offers