#Only one non auto oa this cycle help

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molten timber
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@polar anvil @uncut robin sorry for the pigns but you guys seem to give great advice!

polar anvil
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The funniest thing is you have more experience than I do HAHA.

Jemin if/when you break this resume down, @me so I can see your logic and how you pick this apart

molten timber
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Sorry Ik on paper my resume is pretty good but I'm literally getting nothing :/

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maybe I'm overreacting but I'm scared cause I'm graduating in December lol

uncut robin
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Don't really have a whole lot of time to deep dive into this rn, but the biggest tip I have for you in this recruiting season is to be applying early. Your resume passes at a scan for me, despite your focus being all over - at the very least you should've been good for generalist/rotational roles. One minor thing tho is that I've hearing some recruiters are weighing org involvement and stuff more heavily than having all internships/projects, but I haven't been able to confirm this.

Besides that, reading your last two experiences, it's not immediately clear to me what you worked on - more specifically, I don't really understand what you consider your biggest impact/project or what the outcomes of it were.

Your research experience for exapmle sounds interesting, but you focused so much on implementation detail that I can't really tell what's the bigger picture (what's the end goal) for this research. Your Amazon experience on the other hand sounds like you just did observability chores and no major projects. My general suggestion is always to make your first bullet a hook - tell me about your biggest contribution to the company, and what you worked on. The tech is supplementary

Your next two experiences are a good deal better in that sense, but they still feel like it could be made more straightforward (one exercise I suggest people do, esp for pitch comps, is to try summarizing projects/company products in a short sentence).

Lastly, I'm not seeing a lot of value added by bolding metrics here so I would consider bolding tech instead (this works more often)

molten timber
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hmmm ok i really appreciate the advice

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generally when you see successful resumes are they more focused then?

molten timber
uncut robin
molten timber
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or i guess to phrase the amazon bit better should i try to have a more general point that encompasses the work ive done?

uncut robin
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Is it just work that comes up or are you guys working together on features? You can claim the overarching initiative

molten timber
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more so the latter basically there was a huge upgrade initiaitive and a lot of the work i had to do stemmed from complications that arose from it

uncut robin
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If you can pinpoint the measures for which the initiative could be considered successful, that would be a big start

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Upgrades are always just a cost with little impact so firms tend to shy away from this kind of work unless the tech debt is crushing the productivity

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Amazons super big on business justification so you should definitely be able to narrow things down there

molten timber
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yeah usually thats the case but i think the upgrade was almost necessary (sorry to go into details) with some of the features spring boot 3 coupled with aws sdk 2

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im just not really sure how to convey that on my resume

uncut robin
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What team is this if you don’t mind me asking?

molten timber
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I was on ring so subsidiary

uncut robin
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Whats the reason for needing aws sdk 2?

molten timber
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aws sdk1 is going to be deprecated within the next year

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and also there are some spring-aws dependencies that if used with spring boot 3 require aws sdk 2

uncut robin
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I know a couple teams on Amazon still on node v14 and that’s been out of support for ages

molten timber
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hmm interesting ok

uncut robin
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So there needs to be more justification than that

molten timber
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well the main thing i was told is that it was on the backlog for 2 years and upper management was pushing for it to be done

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but ig its on me to really know the technical reasons to a tee

uncut robin
molten timber
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yeah 😭

uncut robin
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Well I recommend reaching out to ur manager or teammate to figure out how they convinced leadership and what measures this initiative could be considered successful by

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I’m not saying that upgrades are trivial either, but there’s a reason these things don’t get prioritized by most firms

molten timber
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👍

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sorry could you clarify a little bit about what you mean by success metrics?

uncut robin
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And recruiters don’t tend to understand it

molten timber
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i understand impact but are success metrics something relative to the project itself

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yeah the experience was super valuable but i feel like its hard to portray on a resume/express?

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but yeah youre right thats something i could definately ask my teammates about

uncut robin
# molten timber sorry could you clarify a little bit about what you mean by success metrics?

An example of a technical success metric via upgrade: upgrading jest (a js unit testing framework) to v28 enabled one of my teams to cut test execution times by over 70% via its new sharding feature

Business success metric: anything to do w costs, conversions, revenue, etc. A lot of teams couple upgrade / migration initiatives w some major business objective. E.g., one of my companies migrated over to Next.js from ASP.NET to dynamically build SEO pages which significantly boosted our search rankings and visitor traffic. Doesn’t matter that we could’ve done it w .NET, just matters that there was an objective to be accomplished

molten timber
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ahhh ok thank you for the clarification!

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looking at it now i see what youre aying maybe only like one of my bullet points has a clearly defined technical succes metric

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(for amazon)

uncut robin
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I would emphasize the product/feature you were working on for context - Ring is pretty big so idk why you wouldn’t mention that at all

molten timber
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yeah thats really dumb of me too in hindsight

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ok so a general heuristic is to have my first bullet point contain my most important success metric (which in this case would be the upgrades for ring) and relate it to the product/feature it helped

uncut robin
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Something along those lines yes

molten timber
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Okay thank you so much for the advice!

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I felt shaky on my Amazon points to be honest and it really helps to have them ironed out more

uncut robin
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Yea whenever I go into work I would always keep track of why you’re working on what you’re working on - goes a long way in terms of getting visibility and business/product sense, and gets you promoted a lot faster

molten timber
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I feel like being able to communicate your work clearly is 1/2 of it for sure

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is it cool if I send an update doc sometime today or tmrw for review again (whenever you have time)? You honestly given me some of the most helpful advice for my resume

uncut robin
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Can’t guarantee that I’ll see it bc I have a big backlog of ppl waiting lol, but feel free to update!

molten timber
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Sounds good!

molten timber
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@uncut robin if you have sometime to look at this that would be much appreciated!

molten timber
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@mellow zenith if you have sometime would you be able to provide some input?

cedar smelt
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U gotta be trolling

molten timber
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im not trolling dog i have 0 processes

cedar smelt
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Have you attend Georgia tech career fairs or connected with Alum?

mellow zenith
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Your resume has very good metrics, but I'd suggest bolding the tech. stack instead of metrics. What your resume lacks is business/company impact. Move Coursework under education, replace Algorithms with Data Structures and Algorithms, spell out the full Computer Architecture. You're over-indexing on filling the 2 liner bullets to the max width for both lines. It makes it read as a word block and is difficult to parse. Resume looks strong, but the above pointers would make it cleaner. Make the 2-liners cleaner, add more business/company impact, bold technologies used over metrics used.

cedar smelt
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I don’t think his resume is the issue he just needs to network

molten timber
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i would appreciate that a lot thank you!

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if i already applied would that make a difference?

cedar smelt
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You should try career fairs seriously

mellow zenith
molten timber
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ok got it should i just dm you when the positions open up then?

molten timber
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the only non auto oa ive gotten is IMC

cedar smelt
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Yeah I think this year is worse in general

mellow zenith
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Resume looks good 🙂

molten timber
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thank you and yeah i think youre right alogn with what jemin said about having more success metrics in my resume