New Grad/entry level no experience

[rancid citrus]

I'm about to graduate uni in a few days, is this resume good enough for is there improvements that need to be made?

[heady cobalt]

Hello @rancid citrus you might want to put the skills first and then the education last, you should also remove relevant schoolwork, also you can just put one college, the certificates should have it's own sections.

To note: Phrases like “Collaborated with” and “Developed” are monotonous, overused, and add little value to your resume. Strong action verbs, used with engaging language to outline outstanding achievements, are essential to a soundly built resume.

[rancid citrus]

is skills above education good for those automated resume checkers? i just did mine based off of jakes template

but i def agree with the certificate part and the strong action verbs part

@heady cobalt thanks for the help ill update that soon

[heady cobalt]

Yeah a senior dev on LinkedIn looked at mine and told me the same thing, skills should be first

[rancid citrus]

oh ok, also would it be a good idea to put more things in my skills that im like somewhat comfortable with but not super confortable, like i have some experience

for example bash

@heady cobalt

or are the technical skills good enough the way they are

im not going for a FAANG company (i dont have the confidence for that) so idk if i need more

[heady cobalt]

Same here, FAANG will probably be later in my career

[heady cobalt]

What role are you aiming for?

[rancid citrus]

python developer is my main goal, but a general SWE would be cool too

my goal eventually is to be a software test engineer but that role kinda lacks entry positions, also i dont have great testing skills yet

[heady cobalt]

I keep seeing that abbreviation, what's a SWE?

[rancid citrus]

software engineer

[heady cobalt]

Do you mean a QA engineer?

[rancid citrus]

QA tester would be cool too but theres a slight difference between the 2

[heady cobalt]

You're joking right, I thought it was a women in tech stuff 😂

[heady cobalt]

Do tell

[rancid citrus]

nah lmao its literally just the basic title for coding

[rancid citrus]

QA cares more about user satisfaction, that users will like using it

software test engineers are just about making sure functionality is perfect

[heady cobalt]

Well something new to add to my LinkedIn profile

[rancid citrus]

like a software test engineer could be something like what my dad did at leidos, testing failure mode on airport radar

[heady cobalt]

Oh thanks for the explanation

[rancid citrus]

QA testing could be like does this website run well and work and not confusing

[heady cobalt]

But you want to be a software engineer, backend or frontend or just general

[rancid citrus]

backend, frontend would be cool if i learned javascript

[heady cobalt]

Oh makes sense

[rancid citrus]

but i have next to no experience in that

ive only been coding for 1.5 years

[heady cobalt]

I won't advise frontend 😭

Because it's tough

[rancid citrus]

is frontend harder than backend?

[heady cobalt]

To get into a job right now

[rancid citrus]

oh thats what u mean

yea ive seen way too many javascript coders

[heady cobalt]

Frontend is what people learn to transition into tech

It's too saturated

If only I knew

[rancid citrus]

yeah ill stick to backend then

yeah if only i knew SWE'ing in general would become over saturated

but then again hella good jobs are like that

[heady cobalt]

And you said python developer is the main goal, have you started learning Django

[rancid citrus]

population is rising as fast as the rate in which people get degrees

[heady cobalt]

I know right 😢

[rancid citrus]

i know flask but not django

django could be a good skill to learn when i grad (i grad in 3 days)

[heady cobalt]

Very true, competition is tough is an understatement

[heady cobalt]

Congratulations, and sorry

[heady cobalt]

Job market is a very scary place, I hope you have referrals

[rancid citrus]

the only referals i could get are from friends at FAANG companies lol

im not as good as they are at all this

[heady cobalt]

Yeah it could be, so since you want to be a backend developer, I suggest catering your skills and LinkedIn profile to backend development, because if your skills are too broad, it's hard to pinpoint what you're good at

[heady cobalt]

Use them and since it's FAANG, you'll have to grind Leetcode

You can also look at startups

[rancid citrus]

yeah i need to build up my linkedin profile, i havent really used it at all yet

[heady cobalt]

Believe me 60% of the people are those kind of jobs, it's pure luck at times so don't beat yourself up

[rancid citrus]

ive done some leetcode prep, im good at some DSA subjects but bad at others

[rancid citrus]

i havent actually started applying yet so i cant beat myself up over it yet lol

im just getting everything set up first

[heady cobalt]

Plus you're graduating with a 3.94

[rancid citrus]

resume, github, linkedin

yeah my GPA hopefully will be my saving grace

[heady cobalt]

Just focus on your strengths and try as much as possible to cover your bases

[rancid citrus]

also my area has a ton of SWE jobs that dont get insane amounts of applicants since its not remote

thank god im not in cali

[heady cobalt]

To think I was like you a year ago, I started setting it up

[heady cobalt]

Praise the heavens, are you in new York then you'll need a lot of luck

[rancid citrus]

nah maryland

[heady cobalt]

I'll advise for now if possible try and aim for a hybrid job

Remote is too hard if you're an entry level dev

Right now

[rancid citrus]

ill apply for remote hybrid and in person, but i just wanna get my foot into the door even if the job blows (unless the pay is that bad)

def applying for every nearby in person tho

[heady cobalt]

The pay will be bad, it's an entry level job except you're extremely lucky

Do you have a professional headshot?

[rancid citrus]

no but after i get a haircut i can just take a nice picture and use AI to make it professional

AI can to professional backgrounds now

[heady cobalt]

Spice your resume, if you know you're applying for remote jobs, spice up your LinkedIn

[rancid citrus]

oh ok so remote linkedin is more important than for in person?

and yeah my resume def needs work done to it

[heady cobalt]

Your LinkedIn is important if it's a remote job

Because if a recruiter checks your LinkedIn and it doesn't captivate them

They just leave

[rancid citrus]

what can make people get captivated by a linkedin profile

i dont really have anything interesting about me except ive been top ranked in multiple video games

which i dont think applies much to work

[heady cobalt]

I mean if it comes up with the very annoying question of tell me something interesting about you or tell me about yourself

[rancid citrus]

yeah apperently with that question u gotta make it tie into something thatll make u good for the job

so i can just tie it into how putting in the work makes u good at things

as for job apps tho, my plan is to just pump out like 10 apps a day

[heady cobalt]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/abelcak_8-tips-for-a-job-winning-linkedin-profile-activity-7224037520571854848-4Pr7?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

[heady cobalt]

You can read this

[rancid citrus]

yeah im watchin the vid rn

wait not vid nvm

but yea im readin it

[heady cobalt]

Another issue with mass applying, I hear it's better to message recruiters directly, I've been trying that so prepare for the ghosting and a plethora of rejection letters

Though you're not an international candidate unlike me so

[rancid citrus]

oh ur international damn thats rough

what country

[heady cobalt]

You said it buddy 😢

[heady cobalt]

Nigeria

[rancid citrus]

yeah ive seen alot of vids about how u should do message recruiters

[heady cobalt]

Since you're in the united states, check out advicewitherin

And also Jeff Su

[rancid citrus]

those youtubers or something?

swear ive seen those names before

[heady cobalt]

Yes, or should I say LinkedIn influencers

[heady cobalt]

If you've been hunting for jobs, you should have seen them in your feed

[rancid citrus]

so far ive only been casually lookin

i havent applied to a single one yet since none of my stuff is ready

i wanna get everything set up within the next couple days tho

since my github almost done, linkedin gonna take a bit, and resume gotta get fixed

[heady cobalt]

Understandable

First off is the resume

Let's do this

[rancid citrus]

yeah resume the most important part

[heady cobalt]

Get 5-10 job descriptions, then paste them in a word document

Look at all the skills they're looking for

Then use that to remove or add to your skill section in your resume

[rancid citrus]

is it bad to have a couple skills that arent for the specific job but show that i know alot about SWE

i assume i could get rid of matlab thats kinda useless for SWE'ing

and microsoft office everyone knows that

[heady cobalt]

Yep as much as they want you to be a jack of all trades, having too many skills can give off the wrong message

[heady cobalt]

I mean is it necessarily a skill, it would be scary if someone didn't know Microsoft office in this day and age

[rancid citrus]

oh ok ill keep office and get rid of matlab

[heady cobalt]

Remove both

[rancid citrus]

oh nvm ok

[forest lava]

education first if ur a newgrad lol

[heady cobalt]

For your projects, remove the fullstack website

[rancid citrus]

i kinda put that project there just to fill up space, should i try replacing it with something else

ig everyone has made a shitty website nowadays

[heady cobalt]

2-3 projects is fine

No need to bloat your resume

[rancid citrus]

isnt it bad to have alot of whitespace though?

[heady cobalt]

True also

But just put relevant projects

[forest lava]

mobotaku is handicapping u 💀

[heady cobalt]

Remember these days you have to tailor your resume to the job description

[rancid citrus]

whats ur opinion on my resume then?

[heady cobalt]

How? 💀

[heady cobalt]

I just remembered you're a recent grad, put your education first

[forest lava]

idk what he said about bullet points, but i saw he said dont mass apply (wtf lol) and skills first (also weird ur a newgrad they care about college)

[rancid citrus]

do skills go above projects and under education then?

or just keep that as it

is

[heady cobalt]

Yes because mass applying does not really help and could discourage him at first, I was going to say he should apply 4-5 jobs per day

Good ones

[forest lava]

they go at the bottom

[rancid citrus]

oh cool @forest lava

[forest lava]

they arent really verifiable and you should have them integrated within ur bullet points too

bottom cuz its quick reference and ur resume is only 1 page as an entry dev anyway

[forest lava]

uhh

[rancid citrus]

ive seen everywhere say that i should be doin 10 per day or more

more than 10 seems kinda hard af tho

[forest lava]

it shouldnt be… just apply to however many u have time for tho. if you apply as they open you probably wont have that many to go through tho

[heady cobalt]

It does, I've read that it's best to reach out to the recruiters or a hiring manager directly

[rancid citrus]

i mean i could do alot of apps and message hiring managers

[heady cobalt]

I mean it's the internet, there will always be conflicting sources of information

[rancid citrus]

itll be alotta work but ig i gotta do what i gotta do

[forest lava]

this’ll just get u ghosted most of the time, i’d only do it after applying to all new openings

[heady cobalt]

No harm in doing both

[rancid citrus]

is messaging hiring mangers helping for in person roles, or mainly just remote

since im cool with working in person

[heady cobalt]

Yeah I know, but the mass applying also leads to ghosting and rejections, then again there's not surefire way to get a job nowadays

[forest lava]

mass applying increases ur odds by a greater factor

[heady cobalt]

Works either ways, because it worked for me for a remote one so like I said try both

[rancid citrus]

yeah aint job apps just a numbers game

but like a lil extra help from good resumes n stuff

[heady cobalt]

It is unfortunately

[forest lava]

yup for entry level n internships

[rancid citrus]

i heard internships are more miserable than entry lvls jobs to get rn

idk if thats true tho

[forest lava]

they arent

[heady cobalt]

On LinkedIn, you'll see a lot of sob stories

[rancid citrus]

i dont read linkedin cuz i feel like all the posters have a corporate gun to their head

[heady cobalt]

Quite the opposite, the only issue with internships nowadays is that most of them seem to be unpaid

[heady cobalt]

Very true

[rancid citrus]

oh ok

are all the people in this server sturggling to get internships just unlucky or something

[heady cobalt]

From my experience, it's much harder to get a junior dev job, rather than an internship

[heady cobalt]

Like you said it's a numbers game

[rancid citrus]

oh ok fair enough

[heady cobalt]

Some people are just luckier than others

And some could be a result of their resume

[rancid citrus]

well ive had people say im lucky af so hopefully it works out well

[forest lava]

i dont know about this, anything unpaid is more a scam than an internship

[heady cobalt]

But back to the point like @forest lava said, since you're an entry level, your education should be first

But again but cater your resume to the job

[forest lava]

most kids here get internships, they just say they struggle because they only consider faang worthwhile

[rancid citrus]

yeah ill fix up my bulletpoints and skills to be more engaging and cater to the jobs im lookin for

[rancid citrus]

oh that makes sense

idk whats with peoples obsession with FAANG, like google employees quit on average within 1.1 years

google sounds miserable

[heady cobalt]

Wow, I'll take it from the assumption that most of them are from the states, but for international candidates it's pretty normal to see unpaid internships

[heady cobalt]

I mean it's like the equivalent of winning an oscar in the dev community I guess

[rancid citrus]

ig true it is a huge flex

[heady cobalt]

I say this as an international candidate

[heady cobalt]

You don't know how many LinkedIn accounts I see that like to put Ex-Google, Ex-Meta

[forest lava]

i wouldnt do this for every job but im sure thats obvious. idk how much experience u have, catering resume to a job usually only means applying w one pre-written resume over another, and its only really useful if u have so much good experience it doesnt fit in 1 page . i wouldnt edit my resume every time i apply to a new role

[rancid citrus]

i think everyone that has worked at a big company puts ex-that company

[rancid citrus]

i have legit 0 experience lmao

[heady cobalt]

Yeah especially if the company is global

[rancid citrus]

no internships all i got it uni and one bootcamp

[forest lava]

yeah i imagine plenty like to exploit international students

[rancid citrus]

is*

[forest lava]

projects count

[heady cobalt]

When I say cater to the job, you know what I said about getting 5-10 job descriptions and knowing how to change your resume

[heady cobalt]

You can put bootcamp as work experience I think

[rancid citrus]

bootcamp is def not work experience lmao

thats like an extra class

[heady cobalt]

I managed to pass mine off as work experience 😂

Then I removed it when I got my first job

[rancid citrus]

maybe ill try that if im struggling

[heady cobalt]

But you can put that on your LinkedIn though

[rancid citrus]

but i think having my only thing in work experience being a bootcamp isnt a good look

tru

well its super late its 4:44 am i gotta go to sleep

thx for all the help

@heady cobalt @forest lava

[heady cobalt]

And they always entice with the offer of retaining after the internship

[heady cobalt]

You're welcome, good luck to you

[rancid citrus]

thx

[heady cobalt]

And congratulations again for graduating

Thanks @forest lava for correcting my mistake, hope you guys have a wonderful day

[rancid citrus]

thx gl in your future endeavors, if i got any more questions when im fixing up my resume (not tomorrow cuz im celebrating my bday) ill tag u

[forest lava]

https://discord.com/channels/698366411864670250/1257578471929155706 if u need more links, this is my old resume thread and someone dropped neat notion sites there

guy named justin

gl

[rancid citrus]

thx

ill check that out later

[heady cobalt]

Alright no problems, celebrate hard

@forest lava seems you're quite knowledgeable could I ask you to look at mine

[forest lava]

sure

[heady cobalt]

Alright I'll DM it to you

[idle onyx]

Clash Royale project seems cool, is it on GitHub?

[rancid citrus]

both are on github.com/justint301

[idle onyx]

I shall try it

[rancid citrus]

for the scouting bot ull need an api token from https://developer.clashroyale.com/#/

and for the automation bot i havent gotten around to making it work for smaller monitors rn it only works on 1440p monitors itll be a quick fix ill make soon tho

[idle onyx]

Oh

I don't have a 1440p monitor 😅

[rancid citrus]

i can fix it, i just gotta add a multiplier to scale the values down

[idle onyx]

Oh ok, lmk when you do

[rancid citrus]

yeah gotchu

also get the google play emulator for the CR automation bot

[idle onyx]

Already have that

[rancid citrus]

aight nice

its easy to add new cards to the thing but with the current preset its some golem deck that u can see the cards to use in the play.py file

havent quite figured out damaging spells yet

eventually i wanna switch it to cv2 then implement ML tho

[idle onyx]

nice

[heady cobalt]

yo

[rancid citrus]

sup

[idle onyx]

u still play cr?

[heady cobalt]

have you been able to go through the resources

[rancid citrus]

ive been lackin this season cuz finishing school and hate void but yeah

[rancid citrus]

not yet, im celebrating my bday today so im not really gonna be doin much work

[idle onyx]

i stopped after a couple seasons ago when it goes so pay to win

[heady cobalt]

bday and graduation in the same week, you are a lucky son of a gun aren't you

[rancid citrus]

it is yeah but some guy i used to push for buys me passes sometimes so its aight

[idle onyx]

wow haha nice. u ever hit top 1k?

[rancid citrus]

i got over 50 top 1k finishes lmao

[idle onyx]

actually crazy haha

add me

[rancid citrus]

my pr is #69 for ladder and #2 for GT, the #2 on a banned acc tho cuz i sold it

yeah ill add u

send link

[idle onyx]

what's "pr"

[rancid citrus]

person record

ig same as pb

person best

[idle onyx]

ah ok

[rancid citrus]

im low af rn tho im like top 4k havent been playin in a few weeks

[idle onyx]

"low" "top 4k"

https://link.clashroyale.com/en/?supercell_id&p=47-90cb0269-c59f-4269-b503-3e66b3bac3c4

i haven't played at all this season

[rancid citrus]

when im seriously pushing anything below top 200 is low for me

[idle onyx]

whats ur main deck that u run

[rancid citrus]

miner lavaloon

[idle onyx]

wow so ur proper good

[idle onyx]

oh nice i dislike that deck very much

[rancid citrus]

oh i use it cuz its easy lmao

its pretty low skill

[idle onyx]

added

[idle onyx]

nah

[rancid citrus]

void been pissing me off tho people keep voiding my balloons u just cant do anything to stop that

[idle onyx]

true haha

[rancid citrus]

its getting nerfed next tuesday tho

also evo goblin cage is coming out and its super broken

[idle onyx]

oh nice

yeah i saw the gameplay

its crazy but just another supercell tatic to get money tbh

released op card then nerf it after everyone buys it to level it up

[rancid citrus]

supercell is stupid when it comes to making money in CR

literally just make the pass have a book of books and add troop skins

[idle onyx]

yeah true

[rancid citrus]

book of books does nothing for lvl 15 but people will still buy it anyways

and other games show that skins = money

[idle onyx]

true ig

[rancid citrus]

counter strikes whole economy is bc of skins

[idle onyx]

well i think skins wont work as well in cr type of game but i get what ur saying

[rancid citrus]

i mean it worked for brawlstars

[idle onyx]

oh did it

[rancid citrus]

yeah thats why brawlstars is the most earning supercell game rn by a long shot

[idle onyx]

but then again, brawlstars makes sense

cause ur running like one character

[rancid citrus]

that CR needs to do is just add lil icons next to the lvl to let players know what card it is so the skin isnt too confusing

like a lightning bolt next to an ewiz

flame next to a wiz

[idle onyx]

true could work

[rancid citrus]

CR making money off new broken cards is just making people quit

[idle onyx]

exactly

[rancid citrus]

on the bright side tho game has more players than it did during the last duchess meta

[idle onyx]

true

[rancid citrus]

that season was completely dead

[idle onyx]

is duchess still good? or is the princess tower back?

[rancid citrus]

princess is best unless u run a deck that actually works well with cannoneer

cannoneer stats wise is best but princess is the most versatile

duchess is only good if u run a spam deck

[idle onyx]

i see ok

1v1 rn

[rancid citrus]

sure

[idle onyx]

lets go haha

hold up lemme get my mouse

[rancid citrus]

u play on pc?

[idle onyx]

sometimes

i did for a long time

[rancid citrus]

i used to play on a touch screen laptop back in 2017

[idle onyx]

haha same

on bluestacks right?

[rancid citrus]

yeah

actually no memu

bluestacks was always laggy for me

[idle onyx]

ah true

alright im ready

[rancid citrus]

k send it

forgot that u gotta use the trophy road deck for 1v1s

[idle onyx]

nah im actually rusty

[idle onyx]

😭

[rancid citrus]

with ur deck i feel like duchess aint the move

[idle onyx]

true yeah its old

[rancid citrus]

gg

[idle onyx]

gg

alright imma head off

[rancid citrus]

aight ttyl

[idle onyx]

later

[sturdy shard]

An international canditate bro

best of luck

your struggle will be 10x harder then everyone elses

[sturdy shard]

Yup thats exactly what ive heard

Education First they wanna know if you have a degree or not

if u dont thats immiedete rejection most likely

[heady cobalt]

Yup I'm already going at the anime protagonist difficulty level

[rancid citrus]

time to get carried by plot armor then

[heady cobalt]

Obviously, I hope it's as crazy as Ichigo's plot armor